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0:02
SPEAKER_00: Hi.
0:03
SPEAKER_00: Mom, stop talking bad about yourself.
0:06
SPEAKER_00: I am not talking bad.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm just pointing out.
0:09
SPEAKER_00: It's very hypercritical already.
0:12
SPEAKER_00: We just started.
0:14
SPEAKER_01: I know.
0:15
SPEAKER_01: What is that though?
0:16
SPEAKER_00: It's unfortunately your face.
0:18
SPEAKER_00: So get on or get over it.
0:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, just a little quick note before we start.
0:24
SPEAKER_01: The episode, hi everybody.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: We've missed you a lot.
0:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we have.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: It's been a couple weeks.
0:29
SPEAKER_00: I know.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: We've missed being here.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: We were just so busy.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Our lives are just over.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: So funny.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: I was traveling a lot.
0:41
SPEAKER_01: I have that as an excuse.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was my business.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: You were traveling.
0:46
SPEAKER_01: We were busy.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: We were busy, so but we're back now.
0:49
SPEAKER_01: That's all that matters.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: We're back.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, grandmom's calling.
0:52
SPEAKER_01: We won't be answering that right now.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: Um be funny.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: We don't.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm joking joking.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I don't think we should do that.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: Um no, speaking of grandmom, a funny little aside on our almond mom conversation of a few weeks ago.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, when we celebrated my mother's 80th birthday last weekend, which was part of the reason we were unable to podcast last Sunday.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: My mother a lot of planning went into that dinner, so you couldn't possibly podcast.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, we had a busy day.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, my mother came to my house before we went to the restaurant.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: And a la, my concerns about the wrinkles on my face, she said to me, You're too thin.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Words that have never been spoken by my mother about it.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it may go down.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: It sort of started as I mean the most memorable anyway, day in my life.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: But then she said, You're too thin.
1:49
SPEAKER_01: You look your face looks old.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's okay.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: In the same dinner, in the same evening, she asked me if I was pregnant.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: So stop it.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: She did not.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: You didn't tell me that.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: She goes, You're not drinking, you're pregnant.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: I thought she was gonna make it, it was like a weight related.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: As you always do.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: That's nice.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, I go, no, grandma, I'm not pregnant.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: It's just Sunday, and I do unfortunately need to be a person tomorrow.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not pregnant.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh, I guess I'm not looking as good as I thought I was.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: No, she that is not a thing.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: She just thought that you were not drinking, and that that meant something.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: She doesn't pay attention to but I don't think she pays attention to that really.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's safe to say I'm not pregnant.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Safe to say, since you drank wine last night.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: I did and had oysters.
2:39
SPEAKER_01: Celebrating your one-year anniversary.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: I won your wedding anniversary, yes.
2:43
SPEAKER_01: Happy anniversary.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
2:46
SPEAKER_01: You celebrated yours last night, and I'm celebrating my seven year tonight, which will not be until Tuesday, but we're going out to a very, very early dinner tonight.
2:56
SPEAKER_01: But like on a Sunday, like an early dinner is really No, if it's if we're gonna go for an early dinner, um, so if we're going there, it's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, acclaimed restaurant.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like I'm gonna be glad that we get home, you know, and it's early because I wouldn't want to go late on a Sunday.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, so that'll be very nice and exciting.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: It's very exciting.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: Um I'd be curious your take on the meal because you haven't been in some time.
3:25
SPEAKER_01: I have not been in some time.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you know.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yes.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, you went out to dinner, you went out to dinner last night.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Here's a question for for our listeners.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: Do you want to tell the little story of what happened without naming the restaurant?
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Because I don't think you want to do that here.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, just to make a very long story short, we ordered a dozen oysters and one of a dozen.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: Was it just the one?
3:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: I didn't have any bad ones, and none of the other ones were bad.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: But Peter, unfortunately, did get like a bad smell, ammonia, like bad smelling oyster.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Um and instead of, you know, smelling it and not eating it, he smelled it, ate it, and swallowed it.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: When it went into his mouth and swallowed it.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: I think he was we were like sitting at the bar.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: I just don't think he saw a way out.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: The way out is you spit it out and say this oyster's bad.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: I know, and he knows.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: He was beating himself up, but it was fine.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: We're like, he has lived to tell the tale, and we woke up this morning, he had breakfast.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, he's fine.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: So luckily he's been able to fight off whatever it was.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: But yes, unfortunately, which is so sad because this was a place that I was like, oh, maybe this will be like a place.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't think one I don't think one oyster, you're never going back.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: It's not even like I just think unfortunately the place might be like a little bit ruined for him.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: That's possible.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: You know, just like the bad vibes.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: But it it it was totally fine.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: Like we came home, finished, nobody wants this, like, which is really what we would want to be doing on our anniversary.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: How was the cake?
5:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, we didn't need it.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: So we'll have it today.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Because today's actually one year from when we had the cake.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: The cake, yes.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: So it's totally fine.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: It's all good.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: We have two annivers.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: Like we we basically get a weekend of anniversarying the way that we did our wedding.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's great.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, happy one year.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: Peter keeps saying only 10 more to go.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, for what?
5:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, so we have a lot to catch up on.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we do.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: Um what would you like to talk about first?
5:50
SPEAKER_01: Just a quick recap of of uh Salt Lake City, because I feel like all of our listeners always like to hear it.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's do a quick I had notes because it's two episodes now that we're talking about.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: It's basically a San Francisco San Francisco.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Like the second part of San Francisco, the party, basically.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
6:08
unknown: Right.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: And then the aftermath of the party with Mary's lunch and whatever.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: I will say the other day, I was like, uh-uh-uh.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: Bullshit, bullshit.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's so dumb.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: They are literally the two most heinous individuals.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean heinously horrible.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, I don't know if I should mention on the pod, but like I will.
6:32
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like I've told you this once, but you were not watching the show at the time, so I don't know if it meant anything to you.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: But my best friend, Lexi, who's went to Michigan.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: Meredith Marks' son, the one that's like never on the show.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: Not on the show.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: Is Lexi's twin brother, Zach's, like one of his best friends from school.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Do we ever get any intel on that?
7:03
SPEAKER_00: Like, I never said anything.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: To be honest, because I'm like, it's like not that strange.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: She's like a Jewish New York.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I guess Chicago, like a Jewish whatever.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just like, what's up?
7:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, what's that about?
7:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think he's great.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Lexi and Zach are both fantastic.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: So, and they're not like they don't tend to be friends with people that aren't.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I just realized?
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Tell me.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: The reason why you were like, oh, can I hear you?
7:32
SPEAKER_01: Why you don't have your mic turned on.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I knew something sounded weird.
7:38
SPEAKER_01: Can I just plug it in right now and we keep going?
7:40
SPEAKER_00: I think I don't know if it'll pick it up.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm so sorry.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: That was a serious error on my part.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what happened, but that was some bad news on my part, and I am really apologetic about it.
7:52
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean it seems like it's okay.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not that I can not hear you.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: I just don't know if it'll be like quite as crisp as the but now I have to find well, maybe we'll just leave it.
8:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, honey, I'm so sorry.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: That was a really bad job on my part, and I can't even plug it in.
8:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can plug it into there.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: Wait, let's just see if I can do this.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I can do this.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: You will just have to tell it to change its audio source, and I'm not sure if you'll be able to do that mid episode.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: It's good.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: No, it's still it just stopped and then we started.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: Stopped what?
8:40
SPEAKER_01: On my thing, it showed me stopping my episode.
8:45
SPEAKER_01: We'll never know.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Let's keep it going.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, hi everyone, let's keep it going.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: If this is brand new and we haven't been hearing us, I feel like you'll have the complete thing, and that's what matters.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: I think it's something like that.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's just I am so sorry.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: I really apologize for that.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: I was just not thinking clearly.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, back to housewives.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: So we're discussing San Francisco, we're discussing the party in which I have many thoughts regarding the party in general because it felt so random.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Are you paying attention?
9:23
SPEAKER_00: I am.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at my rap, it was cringe worthy.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: Looking at my notes.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm just unclear on the party.
9:32
SPEAKER_00: Like I don't know, there were such random people, and it felt I don't know.
9:42
SPEAKER_00: I guess like she threw the party because they were going to San Francisco, which like I guess is fine, but I don't know.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: The whole thing kind of felt a little bit off to me to begin with.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: The Brandon of it all, very strange.
9:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, what do we I mean, I don't know what to say about that and whether that's a whole PR son.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, that party was obviously the whole thing is so contrived anyway.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, at some point, it's weird.
10:07
SPEAKER_01: Right.
10:08
SPEAKER_01: Like when she was like, oh, I'll have a party, but I want to get all my friends together or something, blah, blah, blah.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: I guess.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: So then she has the party Brandon there, who, like, to be honest, seems like pretty normal and well adjusted.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, as a person.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, when you know what I found so interesting when they were sitting, when Bronwyn was getting her makeup done and Brandon was sitting behind her, and they were the she, Brandon, and whoever her makeup artist was, they were all chatting and laughing and blah blah blah.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: It seemed very normal.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: Normal.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
10:43
SPEAKER_00: Like uh, it was incredibly like what I would think I would see of a relationship.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: They were kind of laughing back and forth.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: The makeup artist was in on it, whatever.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh, okay, this is great.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, good for Bronwyn.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: So then they go to the party, and if you did not, if you're not a housewives watcher, um to make a very long story short, Bronwyn had this party, and two of the other housewives, Lisa and Meredith, decided to take it upon themselves, have an like a surprise performance in the middle of the party where they got up.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: They literally left the room and walked in again, like literally had like an entrance, and proceeded to sing a song that said nothing other than hypocrisy and bullshit.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: Bullshit.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: Hypocrisy and bullshit.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm bored.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even know what the fuck they were doing, but whatever.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: To which Bronwyn is like, fuck you, get out of my party.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, it wasn't even about you.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, if you're gonna do it, like just do it and own it.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: Like maybe it wasn't only about Bronwyn, but it was about everyone there.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: But they chose to do I mean it was community, like with her party with people.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: Like it was very strange.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: So then they leave the the back room where the party is and they start singing the song in the bar of the of the club or whatever they were at, like the rooftop of some restaurant, right?
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Proceed to continue singing it.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: It's been like Whitney and are like running around trying to rip mics.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: Right, but they have like the whole bar singing the song.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Which, like, here's the thing.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Lisa I mean, there are all people obviously know that the housewives are filming there.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: And like people love Lisa, people love Meredith, they like I mean, you said they're like despicable humans.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the fun, like that's the show.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Agree.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: So everyone's like singing along because it's like so so, like, more, it's just getting worse and worse.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: So cut two, they leave.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: Like Broadwin leaves the party, whatever.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: And does the episode just like kind of end there?
12:57
SPEAKER_00: I think it kind of does.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: So then the next episode that we didn't discuss, Mary hosts this lunch.
13:04
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: Where she wants everyone to like make up for it.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: Right.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: And well, I thought that was very interesting.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: Because Meredith, she said wasn't it?
13:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, she said it wasn't about you and Brahman saw.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, it it felt like it was, and I felt like it was really disrespectful and rude, and it hurt my feelings.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: And Meredith said, It wasn't intended to.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: We thought you would think it was funny.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: I apologize if I hurt you.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, No, it's that's very genuine and very normal.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think she, I'm going to give Meredith Meredith the benefit of the doubt that I actually think maybe somewhere that there was a potential that Bronwyn would like lean in and it would be like a funny thing that I'm hoping.
13:52
unknown: Right.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: But Bronwyn literally looked at her and was like, whatever your intention was, that sucked.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: And Meredith looked at her and was like, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't even like a, I'm sorry you felt that, like it was not a shitty apology.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: It was a real apology.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: Agree.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: Meredith then looks at Lisa and goes, and what do you have to say?
14:09
SPEAKER_00: And Lisa's like, I'm not going to apologize.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sorry.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: But like what I really felt like was not being hammered home was no one was telling Lisa that she needed to be sorry that she did the performance.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: She just needed to be sorry that it hurt someone's feelings.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: And she just like, she would not.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't think like that.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't think like that.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't agree that two things can be true: that you could, even though I don't believe for one second that Lisa was well-intentioned, but that you could possibly be well-intentioned, still hurt someone's feelings, and apologize while not feeling like what you did was technically wrong, because that's just not the point.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: But you have to care enough about someone to like want to feel badly that you've hurt their feelings, but she doesn't give a fuck about it.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: What I say all the time about people saying, sorry, at one point, you know, whatever, I won't go into the whole story.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: Somebody said to me, I said, you owe me an apology.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: And the person said to me, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: And I said, But you did, I wouldn't be in this relationship with you if I thought you did it to hurt my feelings.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: But turns out you did hurt my feelings, so say you're sorry.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: But that's what I'm saying.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: That person in that situation and in other situations where you apologize, even if your intention wasn't to hurt someone, but you did, and you apologize, the it turns out Lisa doesn't care if she hurt her feelings.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: So she's not sorry for hurting her feelings.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: She's not sorry for doing it.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: It has nothing to do with what her intention was because she doesn't really agree.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't give a shit.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: She doesn't give a shit.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: She's a little, she's a little that I thought that was maybe fall on the sword.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: Like I thought it was so strange.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Mary is looking at, like, you just say it.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: She goes, Well, I'm not gonna be disingenuous.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, but the whole thing, it feels like such a shtick.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, I'm not apologizing.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, I you want a fake apology from me.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's so shitty.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: So I thought the meal was bizarre.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, right, I love Mary and I know she's going through a lot.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: And like, I don't mean to.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: I also think some of it is like a put on it.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: It's like you want to get back in the whatever of the group, so you're gonna sit everyone down and basically like ask everyone to apologize.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just I don't know, you weren't involved, you weren't there.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: So like it has nothing, have a lunch, that's great, and get the girls together, and they could fight about it if they wanted to.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: But like basically saying, like, hash it out at my meal, and then being upset that everyone hashed it out at your meal.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Like, she was upset at the end.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: She was like, I'm disappointed by how you all acted.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: But like you asked everyone to be there and to talk about this issue that just happened.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I thought the whole thing was weird.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then fast forward to Kwai and am I going in the right order?
16:49
SPEAKER_00: Qui and um Whitney.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Whitney like Qui goes to Whitney's house.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: My favorite line.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: She because I guess she had recorded Kwai at a different point in time.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: No, but she was saying Angie had made a comment.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Don't you remember that was like the whole thing?
17:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes, Angie had made a comment, yeah, which wasn't true.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: Which we had recorded, which wasn't true.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: That Whitney had recorded Kwai, whatever.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: But the funny thing is, Qui walks into Whitney's house and she says, Look, the only camera here is the one outside, and I don't think it can record anything inside P.S.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: They walk into the house.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, well, and that was what when the conversation, which I think is hilarious.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: I know when the Angie conversation happened, that's why.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, clearly they didn't have cameras up when Kwai and Whitney had had the original conversation that Whitney was accusing Quai of saying bad things about Meredith.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Clearly there were no cameras in her house, but I thought the whole conversation was weird that Angie was like, Well, watch out, you're being recorded.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, you guys are on a reality television show.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole fucking point.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: Hello.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know whether like she was saying Whitney, like literally had her phone.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Or like had internal house camera, whatever.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Whatever she said, and whatever Angie was like trying to insinuate, I actually don't think was on Whitney.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: So then Qui and Whitney basically have this conversation where they decide like they're gonna be good.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: Friends, and they've they've basically decided like I don't believe either one of them is gonna be either.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: That's beside the point.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: And I just unfortunately think that when someone that you share that much history with decides to be friends with someone who you are just very much so not friends with, I think it's impossible.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a problem.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be a huge problem.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: The funniest thing of ever is it was the earlier episode with Lisa, and then it happened again.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and um Heather go to dinner.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was weird.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Very strange dinner.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Where Lisa was compulsively lining her lips lining her lips.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: And I know that Angie mentioned it at the San Francisco.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't stop watching it at the San Francisco dinner because they kept on flashing on her, sitting there while everything is happening, just lining her lips like it's so weird.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Truly, and then like she was doing it again.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: Like there must be something, it's it's like a compulsive something or other.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's going on, but it's very strange.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Very strange.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: I was just like, put the lip liner down.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: But I thought that that that group of people going to dinner was very random and it felt incredibly contrived and disingenuous because those people so much of it, but sometimes it doesn't lean that way.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Like if they had had that dinner and it was Mary, Angie, Heather, Whitney, there would have been no problem with the meal.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, why was Lisa at the meal?
19:49
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: I agree, and obviously when Heather and Whitney get together and Angie and Heather get together.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: I know.
19:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're all like old friends, so maybe that's what they were like leaning on.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: It'll be interesting to see, like, from this point, because now Bronwyn and Meredith are kind of like, okay, we're gonna go forward from here.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Bronwyn's like, I'm not gonna bring it up to you again.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: So she has technically said that they are gonna move forward.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: So it will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm very curious.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: But it was, I mean, obviously, the hypocrisy and bullshit was the event of those two episodes, but overall, meh, meh, like we gotta get into it.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: And I will issue a formal retraction because several episodes ago, I was like, eh, with New Jersey.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: I was like in the first season or whatever, and I was like, I don't care, I don't care.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: And now I cannot stop watching watch enough.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: I am into season four.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: It's unbelievable.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: It is crazy, it is unbelievable.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh along with singing hypocrisy and bullshit, I realized I was singing the ballad that um Melissa.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: No, not that.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Melissa's song.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: Not the on display, the other one that she wrote to Joe about how much she loves him.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what song am I singing?
21:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, that's cool.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm singing Melissa Gorga's love song to Joe.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: That's yeah.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: That's I have to say that show is craziness.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: Bonkers.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: It is really, I have to say, I mean, I was traveling a lot, as you know.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: I can't imagine watching that for the first time right now.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, what it's like.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: And I am just downloading, you know, episode after episode after episode and just watching them continually.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, I had like four hour flights.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: I know.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: And I was just like boop boop boop boop boop, just can go to the next to the next.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: What a lovely way to travel.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, it's just it's so mindless and entertaining.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Precisely.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: And that's I just love everything.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I do.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: That's Um I have to tell a very funny story as part of my traveling.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I told you this story.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: So we're in the Austin Airport flying home.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: We're sitting at this little restaurant getting something to eat before we fly home.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: And we had, you know, over the loudspeaker, you hear.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: If anybody left a watch at, you know, station two, please come back to reclaim your property.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: If anybody left a pillow at, you know, whatever, come back to retrieve your over the speaker.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, apparently in Austin.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, apparent in in Santa Fe, somebody said if you're not at the gate, when they board, they'll run outside and call your name and see if they I mean it is that's a such a smaller there's two gates in Santa Fe, two.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Because where would you fly into otherwise into New Mexico?
22:49
SPEAKER_01: Alpha Albuquerque is like an hour.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: So that's not a big airport, but it's definitely a bigger.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: And I said they need to expand this.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: And then somebody who goes there more frequently is like, they did two years ago, they added a second gate.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, it's probably such a joy if you go there often that it's so small.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's just there isn't a whole lot going on there, and the baggage claims situation is interesting, but whatever.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, we're in the Austin Airport, and we hear these announcements, and then we're sitting there and we hear if you've lost your child about three or four years old, please come back to wherever.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: And we heard it like multiple.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, they make the announcement, and then you think somebody is like lost it and running around freaking, and then they ten minutes later, if you've lost your child, we heard it like three times.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: I looked at the waiter and I was like, what is literally happening right now?
23:48
SPEAKER_01: And he's like, You don't understand.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: He's like, people forget all I'm like, a child?
23:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, how do you forget a fucking child?
23:56
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I've seen people walking through the airport with one shoe on.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, how are you?
24:00
SPEAKER_01: You leave your you go through um TSA, you take a shoe off, or you have both, you lose both shoes, you don't go back to get it.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: Like he said, I said, Well, did they even?
24:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: We didn't hear the announcement anymore, so hopefully.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: That's I just I it was bad shit.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: I was like, what is literally happening right now?
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Keep Austin weird, that's what they say.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: Keep Austin weird.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: And it's a it's a shame, actually.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Austin's not as weird as it used to be.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: It's a little disappointing.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, one other quick note that I thought was super cool.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: Not Heathrow, obviously, but Nike shut down.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I know.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Did you see that?
24:41
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: A London airport.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: I can't remember like what the it's like the more local airport.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: They shut it down at night for the night.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: So women could run after dark, and I just thought that was the coolest.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: Like the visual of that was so they had like 5,000 women running.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: So it might be so cool.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Brett is a Nike ambassador.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: She's doing the LA one, but she flew to Sydney.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: They did one in Sydney too.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: They're doing that.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, that's amazing.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: It's so cool.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: It's called like Nike After Dark.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: They do it with all these female athletes.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: It's so cool.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: It's a brilliant campaign.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Brilliant.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Whoever came up with that, like kudos to them.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: I think it's amazing.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: I think it's incredible.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Um what is your are we gonna just dive into the Victoria's Secret fashion show?
25:34
SPEAKER_00: I would love nothing more because I think we have clearly like very different opinions on the show.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know if you're gonna find my opinion very different, but it is interesting because I did, we have heard from some people who requested that we talk about it.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, who wanted, you know, who were just like, why are they doing this?
25:50
SPEAKER_01: What's happening?
25:51
SPEAKER_01: It's gross, whatever.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: And there were a couple things that I was, you know, that were some good like gossip chatter or whatever that I, you know, we can discuss.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: But like overall, when people are like, and I get it, in this exact moment with Cornell and Trump and everything, why are we doing, you know, why is Victoria's Secret having women parade around in you know, lingerie and the city?
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Why why is the assumption that it's for men?
26:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, I don't think it is, I think it's for us.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't know who it's a great joy.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: And I love the Victoria's Secret fashion show, and I will say nothing.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: They lost me for a couple of years.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: It was bad.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: They were trying to, well, they it stopped for a while.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, the whole Tate McCray I didn't love.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, she was fantastic, but what's not to love?
26:43
SPEAKER_01: I know it was like I felt like it was like a little much when she was like growing herself.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Can I say something?
26:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna interject here.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: I really are you on Substack?
26:52
SPEAKER_00: No, you'd love it, by the way.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: And you should, but Substack is amazing.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: And I saw a Substack yesterday.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: It was this woman.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: And don't you have to subscribe to individual different people's Substack?
27:05
SPEAKER_00: You do, you will, and you can, but you also be if you like free subscribe to people, you still see things all the time.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: So, like this article that I saw came from someone reposting that I like free follow, not pay for to follow.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I got you.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: I only pay for two people to follow.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, but she wrote this article and she said, I am raising teenage girls, and I'm more concerned about the narrative that Gracie Abrams is spreading than Sabrina Carpenter, was basically her point.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: And she wrote this whole thing about how everyone accuses Sabrina Carpenter of being like so overly sexualized, and she like acts out sex physician on stage at her tour, and her lyrics are about like, you know, like sex and pleasing her and making her whatever.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: Also, Tate McCrae's song that she sang at the Victoria's Secrets fashion show is I just want to make a lot of money and be my own housewife.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Like basically talking about like I want to run my own shit.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: Whereas Gracie Abrams' lyrics, her two favorites, her two most popular songs are I Love You, I'm sorry, and I miss you, I'm sorry.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Basically, all of her lyrics are like, I stalk you from afar, and if you give me any sort of attention, my I am taken over by blah, blah, blah.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: And this woman writes, and I fucking hope I never hear my daughter say, I love you, I'm sorry, please give me attention.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And I hope my daughter is standing up there saying, like, I just want to make my own money and be my own housewife.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just feel like we've lost the fucking plot.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Tate McCrae is up there, first of all.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Could she be hotter?
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's actually insane.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: I just didn't love when she my only criticism was when she sort of like threw herself over the theory.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm obsessed with physical displays.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't care about any of the rest.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: I didn't care about that.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: I just thought it was like, I as far as like a choreographed move, I thought that was a little bit well, she's an unbelievable dancer.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Like insanely.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: I I'm not, I I did not, I was not against the only thing that I was like, it gave me pause, and then I thought about it.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, of course, that's her job, was the fact that um Barbara Palvin and Alsa Haas like literally had gave birth five minutes ago and walked the show.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Someone um asked her about it.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: And she said, most women in America get six or eight weeks of maternity leave.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: So I was just doing what every other woman in America does.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: She went back to work.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: I completely agree.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: People are like, it's so unfair for her, you know, her beauty standards.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, we don't look like that postpartum.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no fucking shit, you don't look like that before.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: We didn't look like that pre-partum before she looks like somebody posted this very average-looking person.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: I saw it on Instagram, and she was basically like, I was chubby before I got pregnant.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm chubby after I'm like, I'm never gonna look like Barbara.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm never looking like Barbara Palvin.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: She has been setting unrealistic job.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: She has been setting unrealistic beauty standards since she was born because unluckily for her, unfortunately for us, she was born to look that way.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Like 100%.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: There are people in the world that are unfairly more beautiful than the rest of us, and that is a fusion.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: Do you see?
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you did uh Adriana Lima, 45 years old, walking that show.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: My job.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: I love that they brought all the old, um, not old, like in age, but like the original school.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: They even had Giselle had a message at the end, I'll be seeing you very soon.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, well, she heard her, she couldn't walk.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: I know she hurt her foot.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: I know.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: And they even got her to like, I'm just saying, it was so old school.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: First of all, I grew up watching, like it was a night in our household, especially when I was in high school.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, I was so excited.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: My friends would come over.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: It was such a joy.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: I love the Victoria's Secret Fashion though.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: There's always like a great performance.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: This happened to have multiple great performances.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, Kat's Eye isn't my personal thing, but it was what she was at Newport.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't, it doesn't matter.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: Laney Wilson is who was at Newport.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: Cat's Eye is the group of girls.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: No, I know.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: You just said she was.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: I I okay, I misspoke, but yes, it was Kat's Eye was.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm doubting Katz Eye was at Newport.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm highly doubting it.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm mixing it up.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh Laney Wilson.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: They just did, they just did SNL.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: Is that correct?
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Right?
31:27
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: When um Dakota Johnson, correct?
31:32
SPEAKER_01: Right?
31:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know who's saying, but they did just do.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: I think right.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: He did just, they just didn't know.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: But Laney Wilson, I would believe, was at the end of the day.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just mixed it up in my head when it was.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, I will say, I I actually didn't have a problem with Victoria's Head.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: I did read an article.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: This one was like, I watched it with my daughters.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: You know, they're like, she's too skinny, she's too skinny.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what the fuck ever?
31:56
SPEAKER_01: But like they are.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: But everybody looked too skinny, but they but here's the thing.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was lovely.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: There were plenty of there were plenty of models who did not look like they were going to like snap in half.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: I personally feel.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: There are a couple who are a little too thin.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but like that is what they look like.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: Like we're gonna break we I don't think that they're too thin because they're hyperzempic.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: I think that they're too thin because that's what how they're born.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Right.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, and they're and that's their job.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's their job.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure they whatever.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: That's what they're doing.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: Actually, Graham, look at that woman walked down that.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: She was wow, I remember she's fucking amazing.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: Magnificent looking.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: There are so there were so many people on that.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: I actually looked a girl up that I was like obsessed with.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: She's the quite literally the most beautiful person I think I have ever seen in my whole entire life.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: She was, I forget her name, which I know I'm not supposed to do.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: I know I'm not supposed to reference things that we don't remember, but she's truly like the most beautiful woman that I have ever seen in my whole entire life.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Her name is.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, while you're finding her, we can talk about um people's thoughts on uh Kylie wearing the fantasy bra, which I just thought.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: What are you thought about?
33:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, her name is Devin Garcia.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: She is the most beautiful person I've ever seen in my life.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: Um stunning.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Everyone should look her up.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Second of all.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Kylie can wear, I mean, I know there were there were angels who were pissed that she wasn't that she was allowed to wear that because it's supposed to go to a whoever whoever OG.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, did you see their statement on it?
33:49
SPEAKER_01: No, I did not.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so basically, if I just came up with a very unattractive man when I when I Googled Devin Garcia, but now I got it.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: Yes, she's stunning.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, she's gorgeous.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: Basically, the fantasy bra is this diamond, this bra made out of diamonds, basically.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: It's been around forever and it's$50 million.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: $50 million has this gore, like it's they read it.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: And basically, Victoria's Secret said, like, you know, you give the fantasy, the fantasy bra is worn by the fan the fantasy.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Whatever, the fantasy.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: And Kylie Jenner, say whatever the fuck you want about her.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: She transcends fashion, she transcends culture, she is so fucking hot.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: She's everything.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: And she really is like the fantasy of our generation.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: And let me just tell you.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: And also she's uh her own fucking housewife because she's a billionaire.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: So exactly.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: And like, no offense, like her and her huge fake boobs that she like loves and is so open about, like, that is what should be in the fantasy bra.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to see like Kendall's little A cups in the fantasy bra.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: Like, she's so hot.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, she's very thin.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to say like she's the curviest girl, but she's like not rail thin bones protruding.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, she is the fantasy of our generation.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: And I just think she was the first of all perfect choice.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: And for everyone saying, like, it's so out of touch, a$50 million bra, people are starving, blah, blah, blah.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: First of all, it's a Victoria's Secret Secret Fashion Show.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: It's the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, you need to, you need to remove that from the conversation.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: But also, this isn't like what I don't think that people understand about diamonds is like the diamonds exist.
35:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, they're not selling the bra for$50 million.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: They could take that whole thing apart and give every individual person a diamond.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's not that serious.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: Everyone needs to relax.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: It's just the value of the diamonds that are in the bra.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: I just there was so much backlash for something that is just supposed to be like so light and fun and hot.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: And like the fact that we can't watch something and let it be that is so upsetting and sad.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's the reason people hate liberals.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm so sorry to say it, but it's so true.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, just be fun.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's allowed to exist in the world.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: So, somebody's comment, I did not hear it, but somebody's comment that was passed on to me was the thing that bothered this person the most, which I don't even understand, were all the celebrity guys in the audience, like, and like the fact that like Timothy was there.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, if my girl was walking the Victoria C Litter fashion show.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: Please explain to me why he would not be there.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure Adam Levine is like coming out there.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Every single year Bahati walks.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: What was what's the point?
36:58
SPEAKER_01: What about it?
36:59
SPEAKER_01: It was like icky that they were there, like ogling their.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: I was like, uh, I don't know.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure Timothy knows what she looks like, and I'm pretty, he's pretty sure he's pretty into it.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: And it was like, I want to watch my girl walk in like the sexiest fashion show ever.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: Also, it's not even about the sexiest fashion show ever.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: Your partner is doing something, this huge thing.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: That, yes, 100%.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: So of course she would be there support them, but also, yes, agree that as well.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: Like her mom was sitting next to him.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Does anyone have an issue with her mom sitting there?
37:29
SPEAKER_00: And her mom's boyfriend was sitting next to her mom.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's stupid.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: So whoever said that, you're you're you're that's dumb.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: I loved it.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was so fun, and like we need to allow for like glamour and glitz and all of that stuff because it's fun.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: I think it was, I guess, given exactly this moment in time.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: It's always a moment, it's always the moment in time.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: I you understand what I'm saying.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: That's where the criticism is, because everybody's like, you know, women are being this, that, and the other by the president, uh, you know, and denigrated, and you know, and he talks to that, talks about them in a disgusting way, and like the culture has become somewhat disrespectful.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: But so what I'm saying is Victoria's Secret is like bring, like, let's take back our power.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, right.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know if it's a I don't know if I 100% agree that it's like it's the same, that's the same statement, like saying Sydney Sweeney doing her ad is like you know, her laundry line is like taking the city.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that that's the intention.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, like, why can't we why can't we at least open the conversation that it's possible that the thought is there?
38:37
SPEAKER_00: Like the immediate assumption is like, oh, we're feeding into men preying on women, basically, with this fashion show.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, why is it not possible that there's not a different intention there?
38:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know.
38:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think the guy who owns Victoria's Secret is probably like that, but the guy who owns it.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: And he was also the guy has nothing to do with the Victoria's Secret fashion show.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he isn't he, he's also like connected with like the Epstein files and all that stuff.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying Which is why everybody, you know, gets very up in arms.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: Look, I don't disagree with you.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: I think it's fun to watch.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: The girls are beautiful, you know what I mean?
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Like it's so we're gonna shut down the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show and take the jobs of all these women away?
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Is that what we should do instead?
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I I mean I'm just curious.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, and like I'm not like first of all, I don't even buy things from a Victoria's Secret.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: It's just like a fun night.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes, no way.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: I think it can just be like fun.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't Beyonce on once?
39:38
unknown: No.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: No?
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Years ago?
39:40
SPEAKER_01: Are you sure she didn't perform at the Victoria's Secret fashion show once?
39:43
SPEAKER_01: I feel like she did.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: I feel like she did.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: I feel like she did.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: I could be completely dead ass wrong.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh, she did in 2002, alongside Destiny's Child.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Damn it, I knew it.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: There is no way.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: You must have seen that recently because there's no way you've known that.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Hand of God, hand of God in the back of my head.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: Because Leah, we used to watch it.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: It was, I don't even think it was televised in 2002.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: Know how long ago 2002 was?
40:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know if there was like regular cable television allow allotted to be able to watch it.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: Stop it.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Don't be ridiculous, Mom.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: 2002, I was six.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't watching the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, if I was, we can revisit the Almond Mom conversation.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: All right, that's fair.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, whatever.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Somewhere in my brain, I thought that she did.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: I actually thought she performed.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: But I didn't know.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: And I was right, but I'm not recently.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: But maybe I didn't actually know it.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: No, I was looking at the list of people who have worn the um fantasy bra.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: Started with 1996, Claudia Schiffer.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: Wore a million dollar bra.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: We've multiplied that by 50.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: 50 passes.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: And then Tyra, Tyra Banks, Heidi Klum, Giselle.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: Heidi's worn it a couple times.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Heidi's worn it a bunch of times.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: Of course, she's Heidi Klum.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: She's nuts now, but yeah.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, what's next on the list of topics?
41:22
SPEAKER_01: Lex on the licks.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: Um so this was interesting.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I don't, it's not gonna like have you seen that young lean video that I was talking about.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: That the that he performed the video, he performed you know, the live version of the video at the VMAs.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing, right?
41:46
SPEAKER_00: Incredible.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: So there's all this conversation now because it has been like AI'd all over the place.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: And like you'll see, if you go on and see it, like you'll see a bunch of cats doing it, you'll see a bunch of whatever doing it, all different people are doing it.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: And there's all this commentary about the fact that this was like this incredibly creative effort.
42:13
SPEAKER_01: And now we're bringing it up.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: And now it's like Snap, AI can just like copy it in a second.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: So it was an so what I thought was interesting was because when I was in Austin, there's this thing called I actually uh you have to, it's gonna open in New York in 28.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: I think there's this, it's like an immersive art experience called Meow Wolf.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: It's it sounds weird, but it's actually it's a group of artists.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, it's really interesting.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: And if you're into checking out what like an immersive art experience looks like, everybody should go online and look at it.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: The co one of the founders of it came and spoke at um, he was like the lunch speaker one day at my conference.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: And he was talking about how he started, he actually had the guy who wrote Game of Thrones, like backed him originally in Santa Fe to create the first immersive experience.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: It's wild.
43:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: And he was talking about sort of what is happening with AI and creativity and how digital content basically means nothing now because you can create it and somebody can copy it in a second.
43:23
SPEAKER_01: Like you or you can just make AI do it.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, and that the that the thing that is still, I mean, real for what you want to call it, or is like a hands-on experiences, and that that is going to be the only art that is going to art, whatever you want to call it, culture, that is gonna have I don't know if you want to say it's the only thing that's gonna have value, but like there's gonna be a point in time where you know they can copy whatever, pick the work of art so perfectly that it'll be indistinguishable, you know, the kind.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Copy will be indistinguishable from the original, aside from I guess somebody will be able to date the paint or whatever.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: But like theoretically, if you wanted a Picasso or a Jackson Pollock in your house, you could buy something that looks so closely like it.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: It sounds very reminiscent of natural and lab grown diamonds.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, they're a different type of diamond.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: They're not.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: But I'm just saying, we're having that's the exact same conversation that you're having.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: But so his point was that that that type of art that where you're it's almost like please touch for adults is what I would call it.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, I get an immersive like art experience.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: And I don't I disagree with what he's saying.
44:45
SPEAKER_00: That is not going to be the only form of art.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, look, even music, you're now, you know, we talked about it the other week.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: But not live music.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Spotify's not live music, although I guess it's also like that's your prerogative.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you want to listen to an AI band?
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, sure, do that.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: But like I'm gonna choose to listen to not an AI band, and that's also okay.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just feel like until we allow AI to completely eradicate.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Well, but it's not gonna be a completely eradicate, what what and actually he wasn't saying this.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: I did actually read an article in the New York Times about it that we were, which was weird because we were talking about the article at lunch right before this guy spoke, and I didn't even know that that's what he was gonna talk about at all, which was really interesting.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: So Ezra Klein wrote an article where he basically talked about, which um, you know, we don't have to worry about AI killing us all.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like maybe we do, but the thing that we have to worry about more is AI gradually, it's not going to be uh AI is gonna eradicate everything in the blink of an eye.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: It's going to be little tiny steps where we cede more and more control to AI.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, I just got an ad this morning on my phone that basically said train Meta or whatever Muse or whatever the heck the personal assistant is to make dinner reservations for you so you don't have to worry about going online at 12 o'clock if you want to get into a restaurant.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: You can tell chat to do it for you.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, right, but I'm saying, like bots have been doing it, but I'm saying little by little, you can train now like an AI agent, which I know is not new, everybody who does it like doesn't.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: Great.
46:32
SPEAKER_01: But like little, right, but little by little.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: So the question is if we, you know, it like writ large big picture, if we one, it can be amazingly useful and make allow you not to have to do shit you don't want to do.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: It'll take away all the mundane tasks you don't have to be bothered with.
46:52
SPEAKER_01: Which, okay, great, we love that.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: But then the question is if we allow it to do, where's the line where we allow it to do more and more?
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Because it does, it's going to and does so many things that we do better than we do it, and we keep on allowing it to do more and more.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: When will we get to the point where we have ceded so much control of our life to AI that we will have like no purpose?
47:24
SPEAKER_00: But it that seems like it's person to person.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, but as a society, more you know what I'm saying?
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't I'm not saying it's gonna have been like mandated unless it becomes mandated that you utilize AI for XYZ so that the schematic process.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: If you're in a business where everybody else around you starts to use AI, but I think that there are businesses that use AI, it doesn't necessarily take like the uniform and individualized thought out of it.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: You're utilizing it to produce something that you've thought of or that you've you know, I I do think that there's yes, I think that people using more and more people using AI to like write standard emails, like that's slop.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: Like use your brain.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: But if you have an I do like it to help me.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: No, that's what I'm saying.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: That's where I feel like AI is like really problematic.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: Like you can't formulate a sentence to someone yourself, they do it better, but they don't because then it's not you, and that's what's gonna standardize everything and make us all fucking robots if we can't have independent like thoughts.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: I I'm gonna tell you like if I have a long document and I have to send something out, and I'll say to co-pilot, summarize the like the most salient points.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: You're spark noting your life.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: I did it in high school, I get it.
48:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, I add in my own little and but and then it I'm just thinking like a perfect example.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: This person that I know, every single thing they do is AI.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's like to the point where like they cannot actually formulate a text without like running it through AI.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Or like there will be an article and they'll put it in AI and say, like, what does this article say?
49:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, fucking read it.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: You're an adult.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, that is the problem, honey.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: But the that's where we are.
49:18
SPEAKER_00: That's my problem with AI.
49:19
SPEAKER_00: My problem with AI is not if you want to have a Jackson Pollock in your house or if you want, you know, I use it to like mock up ideas that I have in the house, like to redo my kitchen, but I tell it exactly what I want it to do.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm just not buying$100 CAD and Adobe Photoshop programs to formulate it myself.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: I tell it the idea and it spits it back out to me.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: That is completely different to me than our decision to rely on it to be our brain.
49:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm just gonna say I had to do a budget this year.
49:54
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea how to do a budget, nor looking at my financials, it would have been, I could have done it, but it would have taken me a very long time to be able to gather all of the numbers that I needed because of the way we do our financials, which is not worth getting into.
50:11
unknown: Okay.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: So I literally loaded my like year-end financials, my first and second quarter into Copilot, and I said, I need an operating expense budget projection for 2027.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: And it asked me a bunch of questions.
50:26
SPEAKER_01: That is something I literally have no idea.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: But here's my question in that setting, is the expectation for, and if this wasn't made clear, like this is for your business, this is not a personal budget.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Is the expectation, is that part of your job description to do yearly budgets?
50:44
SPEAKER_00: And like well, I decided that I should.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: I hadn't up until now.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: So what you technically could have done is like reached out to a financial planner and had a financial planner do it for you.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: It's not like your job description.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: I could have asked my accountant to do it for me.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: So that is different to me.
51:03
SPEAKER_00: You are saying there is a job that needs to be done.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: It's not my job.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: And instead of paying someone to do it, I'm gonna use AI.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: Now, that's gonna eliminate people's jobs, but that's different.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: You're not asking AI to do your job, you're bypassing a payment of another person to do a job that you don't do.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: Those two things are different to me.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: Having AI, like if you're like read this email and tell me how to respond, if my if my like opinion is XYZ, write the fucking email yourself.
51:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna say there are times when it'll be like, would you like to make this more concise?
51:41
SPEAKER_01: Would you like to focus on different more?
51:42
SPEAKER_00: So you write the email and then you put it in AI and say streamline it.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: That to me is like, okay, you want to have like a personal editor of your thing, sure.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: But if you can't actually formulate the thoughts, if you're putting articles into AI and saying, please summarize this for me, like what are we doing?
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, read it.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: Don't you think that's what people are doing?
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh I know for no one's reading anything.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you, this person that I'm talking about, like has specifically said to me, like, oh, and I put that into AI and asked it.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, no.
52:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, it's like it's use your brain.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: I guess the question is like, if you think about it, like, where does that like translate into like school?
52:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, if kids have to read books, it's such what happens?
52:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, but it that's been going on forever.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: Spark myths was around when I was in high school.
52:29
SPEAKER_01: Yes, but at least you had to read them.
52:31
SPEAKER_01: That's my point.
52:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, technically, I mean, like at a certain level, you have to read something.
52:36
SPEAKER_01: Something.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: I think it gets scary when we're having AI use our brains.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't personally, and maybe everyone would disagree with me.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: And like, I'm on I I love art, art's beautiful, but like you can't have a Jackson Pollock in your house if you're a normal person.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: So, like, if you want AI to make you a Jackson Pollock or a Van Gogh or a side twambly, whatever, great.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy for you that you can have that in your house because people have been replicating art forever.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: True.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: So it's not the capability of those things.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: And again, I really do believe that AI can be used in business incredibly productively and still not be doing people's jobs.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: Like you still need pa people to maintain the AI.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, I will tell you, I just had this conversation with Betsy, a very good friend, um yesterday.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: And she was telling me about her nephew, who I don't know what his job title is exactly, but he basically does like all of the, I don't know, some sort of coding for like the national parks or something like that.
53:46
SPEAKER_01: And he said, right now he is he used to do like all the coding.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
53:55
SPEAKER_01: Now he supervises AI doing the coding.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: And he literally said to her, I just wonder when they're gonna get to the point where they decide they don't need me to supervise.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that that will happen.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe I'm an idiot, but my understanding of how, especially in that space, my understanding of how AI is used in software development and coding is that you very much so still need a person to manage it, a person to explain it, what to do.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: You need the personal new, like the individualistic nuance.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: And maybe I'm naive that AI is not gonna have that, but I don't know.
54:42
SPEAKER_01: I just wonder whether, you know, I mean, I guess to be determined to be determined.
54:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we'll see.
54:47
SPEAKER_00: It'll be really interesting.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: I know it'll be very interesting to see like when our kids, I mean, I'm not worried about them like young, tall, or mid, like when our kids are like in middle and high school, like how that how what AI is going to be like in there.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: And I also think about it in silly ways, where I'm like, how great is that?
55:11
SPEAKER_00: Like Randy, my mother-in-law, like put her picture into AI and was like, what's the best haircut for me?
55:20
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
55:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, I love that stuff.
55:21
SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: I think that's so awesome and like fun.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: And yes, I guess like she could have asked her hairdresser, but like, I don't know.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: AI took all this information.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, I do think that unfortunately it's coming at us full force.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: So we need to get on board with AI.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: A hundred percent.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: And like using it for things like that, I just think is so great.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's but there's a line.
55:44
SPEAKER_01: That's super fun.
55:44
SPEAKER_01: You could literally, it'll you can scan your wardrobe and it'll tell you, and like tell and you can tell it like what you want your look to be, right?
55:53
SPEAKER_01: And it'll literally help you put together outfits, tell you what to get rid of.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: Like that's what I'm saying.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: I was saying I do think that those are the places where it is unfortunately going to replace real people.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, not everyone, because there are some people who want a physical person in their closet with them or want a physical interior designer like showing them fabric swatches.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: But clearly you could design an entire house on closet, chat, whatever.
56:18
SPEAKER_00: It's possible that those types of trades will feel a more immediate impact of AI.
56:26
SPEAKER_01: But I also do think also, I mean, look, if you think about it, definitely in the legal space, I mean, people are like, what do I need a first-year associate for?
56:36
SPEAKER_01: That's AI.
56:39
SPEAKER_01: Like to do all that research, you can just have Claude do it.
56:42
SPEAKER_01: Or, and people actually, it's not even Claude.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: The law firms build, I think it's called Harvey.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: It's like a agent.
56:49
SPEAKER_01: And it's an internal agent, and they train it to do.
56:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's kind of bonkers.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's very, I mean, it's interesting because it's definitely more obviously more easily, more easily in the white-collar space than in the blue-collar space, because like you still can't get AI to like run the machine or service the whatever, or you know, plumbing, electrician, that type of thing, construction.
57:17
SPEAKER_01: They're the gold mine.
57:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's a little bit more job security there than there is in like white-collar things, things, I think, but it's still not um.
57:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I had so many interesting speakers.
57:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, there was a uh like a PhD economist from Wellington Management who also spoke at our conference, who is she's fabulous.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: And she said the difference is, because I said I actually I actually asked her the question, where are we in the productivity uptake of AI?
57:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, because there was she was basically talking about how AI is driving so much of the equity market.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: Like there's there's the stock market is so crazy because of like AI and tech.
57:54
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, it's all this money in all these companies, but like are they actually like where's the reaping the rewards part of productivity?
58:02
SPEAKER_01: And she was basically saying that like while there's a lot of uptake in certain sectors, obviously in tech and things like that, like there's not as much adoption in like the retail market, for example, and things like that.
58:14
SPEAKER_01: So until you get like up to a higher percentage threshold of uptake, you're not gonna really see the productivity values that you know, sort of the valuation of the stock would suggest is there.
58:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and she's like, you know, it's sort of an open question, like when it's a good thing.
58:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's all kind of an open question, also.
58:32
SPEAKER_00: Like we all think we have we know, oh, AI is gonna take over the world, or it's not, or we're all gonna blow up, or whatever.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: We have literally no this is a force that we have no, we have no idea of.
58:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, we sh right, but it's a little scary that we created the force that we have no idea what's gonna happen to it.
58:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess you need the right people in the right places to scale it in the right ways.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: And right now it's kind of a good thing.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: We definitely have that's what I'm saying.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: Like good thing we can count on that, which makes me feel so much better on the case.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: It is election day in a week and a half.
59:07
SPEAKER_01: It is.
59:08
SPEAKER_00: Get out and vote, everyone.
59:10
SPEAKER_01: Get out and vote.
59:13
SPEAKER_01: Don't stay home.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Because staying home is a vote.
59:17
SPEAKER_01: It is, it is indeed.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: That like actually might be a really good place to uh close.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:25
SPEAKER_01: Great.
59:26
SPEAKER_01: Get out there and vote, people.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean we'll be back before election day.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, our next episode will drop on election day.
59:35
SPEAKER_01: On election day.
59:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, this one will drop before that, obviously.
59:41
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59:41
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59:44
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59:45
SPEAKER_01: If you need something to listen to while you were standing in hopefully a long line, you're hopefully not.
59:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, no, we want people to be in a long line because that means people got out and voted.
59:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I'm just saying, like, if they're running efficiently, people can mail in votes.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: I just don't want everyone to have to like suffer in a long line.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_00: It's annoying.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: But do it, I guess, if you need to.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_00: Do it if you need to.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, stand in the line.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_01: We don't have lines in our small little town.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: It's lovely.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: No, we don't have lines in.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think I stood on the five-minute line last time I've got to.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_00: I voted with you.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, the no, that wasn't the in the 24.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_00: I needed to vote with you.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: In the 24, like presidential primary election, we voted at that like school church thing.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you oh, you voted with me over there on sex?
1:00:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_00: Before I changed my address, and now obviously I vote in Arbor.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_01: No, I was thinking, I remember when we voted in 2016.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_01: That was at home.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_01: That was at home.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: That was your first vote.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_01: By the Angelo's pizza.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: Right?
1:00:51
SPEAKER_01: Which was weird.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: No, not by Angelo's.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: By um No, it was it was across, didn't we vote across the street?
1:00:59
SPEAKER_01: At the the church on the corner?
1:01:01
SPEAKER_01: At the ivory and Huntington Pike.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_00: We have like a photo.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: We took a we took a picture, I think.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_00: Whatchamacallit.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: Whatever, the place that had the purple peak purple.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_00: Someone for that purpose.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_00: That's a pizza.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_00: What was that?
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: What is that place called?
1:01:21
SPEAKER_00: It's across the street from the car wash.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_00: Let me see if I can find it.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_01: It's related to, it's connected to that Angelo's restaurant.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_01: That's out like wherever, but it's not, that's not what it was called.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if it's still there.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_01: But that pizza was delicious.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_01: And yes, we took a picture there because we went from voting to pick up a pizza.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's still there.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's not.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, if anybody from our past knows what it was called, please let us know.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it'll come to us at some point.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: That's so distressing.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: I can hear them answering the phone too.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: And I can't get it.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_01: But they had delicious pizza.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, just saying.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: So good.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: So if it's still there, we should I don't think it is.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling like it's not.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, vote, eat pizza.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: Enjoy.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_01: Enjoy.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_00: Love you.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_00: Love you.
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SPEAKER_00: Bye.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: Bye.