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The Creepiest Hiring Story We_ve Heard Yet · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: An employee that I was coerced into hiring, followed me
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  Speaker 1: home one night.
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  Speaker 2: He started speaking in this completely made up language to
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  Speaker 2: us during the interview. This guy's all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's a bad hire.
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  Speaker 2: That is a really bad hire.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Bad Hire, the show with the best
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  Speaker 1: stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 3: We fired him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, people are crazy.
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  Speaker 4: It's like an hr nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: Right, one bad hire stole all.
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  Speaker 3: Of it crazy stuff. She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we
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  Speaker 1: dive into real life stories from the wild world of
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  Speaker 1: work and what can happen when the wrong person gets
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  Speaker 1: the job. These stories aren't just crazy when their cautionary
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  Speaker 1: tales about lessons learned the hard way. Let's get started.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome back to the Bad Hire. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: have you guys back, the show where the best stories
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  Speaker 1: meets the most unfortunate employees. We tell some great bad
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  Speaker 1: hire stories, bad interview stories. We have fun doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome Morgan, Hello, guys, how you doing, Nathan?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody?
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  Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, All right, you guys know the drill.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna tell some wild stories, some different
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  Speaker 1: stories we're found on the internet, maybe some that were submitted,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, that's what we do here. We tell crazy
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  Speaker 1: stories about hiring disasters and sometimes interview disasters. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I like the interview once as much as I do
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  Speaker 1: the disasters, like the first day one we mouse and
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  Speaker 1: like og burnouts and yeah, more kinds of.
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  Speaker 2: We're always looking for the stories. I like the interview ones.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like maybe just because I've been in
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  Speaker 5: a lot of interviews and I've never hired anybody, so
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  Speaker 5: I find them more relatable. Yes, so it's like I
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  Speaker 5: can imagine, just like I don't know, there's some crazy
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  Speaker 5: interview stories, bad hire stories.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're watching gusubmit your stories. We have heard
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  Speaker 2: so many stories.
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  Speaker 1: I started to you guys have a better memory for
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  Speaker 1: them because you'll be like oh ruber and I'm like what.
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  Speaker 5: Well, then we see the social media clips a thousand
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  Speaker 5: times too, of all the stories and stuff so which
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  Speaker 5: I've been getting out there.
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  Speaker 2: Social media's clips are doing pretty good. So people like
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  Speaker 2: the stories. I'm glad.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah there's one of yours morning, yes, like yesterday, the
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  Speaker 5: like bleu up, I think okay, So yeah, nice, that
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  Speaker 5: was awesome, all right, what was the story now?
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  Speaker 6: I remember probably if I had to guess, like off
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  Speaker 6: of the last ones that we read, there was the
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  Speaker 6: one about the lady's husband who cheated on her. And
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  Speaker 6: she's like, I'm just letting you know, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 6: pass the background check and they're like why and she
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  Speaker 6: was like, because I literally lit our house on fire
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  Speaker 6: because the husband cheated on me. And they were like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 6: And then I have no clue if she got hired
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  Speaker 6: or not. They didn't say, so maybe that one imagine
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  Speaker 6: that I love them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we hope you'll submit your stories to us. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've got our contests that are running this year. The
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  Speaker 1: best story that gets sent to us, we'll we'll pick
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  Speaker 1: a winner and send out ten thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, submit your story. Who knows and.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you've been in, if you've been hiring, interviewing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got a story. Most people got more
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  Speaker 1: than one, so share it with us. It's uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: good fun. We do it lightheartedly, and they don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be completely mishaps, you know, like bad Hires, even
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  Speaker 1: though that's the show title. We've had some there can
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  Speaker 1: be you know, some resounding kind of redemption stories.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the ones. Yeah, most of the time. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And then there's and then there's.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's there's just good hire stories too. Some
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  Speaker 1: people have told some you know where they thought somebody
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  Speaker 1: was bad. We had one ceo runs a company admit
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  Speaker 1: that he was the bad hire one.
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  Speaker 2: Tough he was. He was the boss too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so send your stories in. We love them, we'll
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  Speaker 1: use them. And uh and maybe you win ten thousand dollars. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so I'll get started. All right, Yeah that
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  Speaker 1: was good.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. Uh and I started.
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  Speaker 1: I read the first couple of cents of this, and
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  Speaker 1: it sounded freaky right off the bat, like do you
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  Speaker 1: all right? An employee that I was coerced into hiring
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  Speaker 1: followed me home.
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  Speaker 2: One night to a great start. And uh, wait a
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  Speaker 2: second thought, I thought I would say, ken, wait a second,
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  Speaker 2: I swear it. During this, I had a susmicion it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't mine, Marcus, you tried to warn us?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: An employee I that I was cursed into hiring followed
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  Speaker 1: me home one night. Uh, the fellow wondered in a
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  Speaker 1: little after I had entered the gate of the complex. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and started asking the guard a bunch of questions. I
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  Speaker 1: guess his apartment complex something. He started off asking if
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  Speaker 1: any apartments were for sale? Uh, what was the square
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  Speaker 1: footage price? And then said that I had given him
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  Speaker 1: this address.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I had not.
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  Speaker 1: He continued, asking if I was living alone, what time
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  Speaker 1: I usually reached home?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's getting worse.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weird, all right.
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  Speaker 1: The guard told him that he had just that he
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  Speaker 1: had just recently taken up employment, so didn't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about the residents that shouldn't be white. Yeah, come back later.
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  Speaker 2: He was lying.
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  Speaker 1: He just didn't trust it. Okay, he was lying. He
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  Speaker 1: just didn't trust any man who asked such questions about
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  Speaker 1: a young woman. However, we however we could, We could
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  Speaker 1: not just confront him because of social class issues. The
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  Speaker 1: guard promptly informed me about this. The next day, he
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  Speaker 1: had gotten to the fool had forgotten to take off
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  Speaker 1: his employee lanyard.
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  Speaker 2: That's isn't this a theme in these Yes? So I
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  Speaker 2: could easily figure out who he was.
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  Speaker 1: Right that day, once all the team had come in,
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  Speaker 1: I walked to his seat and asked him in my
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  Speaker 1: loudest indoor for what were you doing at my apartment
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  Speaker 1: complex yesterday? I heard you ask personal questions about me?
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to know?
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  Speaker 1: I want story short? He was off my team. The
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  Speaker 1: company retained him though, but they just transferred him.
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  Speaker 6: So he stayed, Wow, I would have filed over training order.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be asking him why were you stalking me?
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  Speaker 6: I'd be like, no, I'm going to Flowers training order.
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  Speaker 1: So that was the call that when you like bounce
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  Speaker 1: a bad employee around, like you just send them somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: Oh god, sure, transfer. I don't know there's a first transfer.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know transfer. We at least she called him
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  Speaker 2: out in front of everybody. I mean, that's that's one
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  Speaker 2: good step, I guess. But wow, that's not good at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just like what's going through his head? Like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: what is he thinks gonna happen? I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 2: he's a criminal.
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  Speaker 6: That's like one of us committing a crime with a
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  Speaker 6: bad hire shirt on, Like you got to know people
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  Speaker 6: are going to trace it.
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  Speaker 5: Says my name is Nathan the perkt beach ex exactly,
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  Speaker 5: just like everywhere that I go.
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  Speaker 2: Here's their website and the phone. Yeah, yeah, in five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Be Check's bandit Masks coming soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's trying to swag it up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to sell apparel here, Yeah, sorry my story. Okay, guys, ready,
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  Speaker 5: let's see. I once interviewed a candidate who opened the
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  Speaker 5: conversation with this line, I'm probably the smartest person that
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  Speaker 5: you'll ever meet. In fact, I'm so smart that I
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  Speaker 5: invented my own language, and I will be conducting the
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  Speaker 5: rest of this interview in this language. And then he
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  Speaker 5: actually did it, so he started speaking in this completely
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  Speaker 5: made up language to us during the interview. At that point,
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  Speaker 5: we were so stunned that we decided just to go
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  Speaker 5: with it.
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  Speaker 2: I told you like interview stories.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we kept him and he was talking, and we
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  Speaker 5: were bringing people from around the office to come listen
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  Speaker 5: to him.
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  Speaker 2: For hours.
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  Speaker 5: People would walk in, stand there for a minute and
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  Speaker 5: hear him speaking the invented language.
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  Speaker 2: They would just look at each other, like, what is
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  Speaker 2: actually happening right now.
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  Speaker 5: We laughed about this interview for a few months, and
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  Speaker 5: the funny thing is that was not a joke. The
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  Speaker 5: guy was completely serious. Honestly, As a Tolkien fan, Lord
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  Speaker 5: of the rings. Yeah, I had to respect the effort.
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  Speaker 5: Creating an entire language is a lot of work.
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  Speaker 2: But did you at.
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  Speaker 3: Least explain what each word meant like.
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  Speaker 2: We have always did explain, but in any other language
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  Speaker 2: that they didn't pick it up. Oh gosh.
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  Speaker 5: But when you spend enough time doing tech interviews, you
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  Speaker 5: meet some incredibly interesting people. Moments like this also remind
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  Speaker 5: me of something important in any interaction. This might be
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  Speaker 5: the only chance we ever have to show somebody in
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  Speaker 5: our lives some kindness, compassion, empathy, and surreal attention, because
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  Speaker 5: you never know what people are actually going through, so
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  Speaker 5: I try to remember that. I tried to make sure
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  Speaker 5: that at least for that one more moment, that person's
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  Speaker 5: sitting across from me knows that someone in the world
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  Speaker 5: actually cared about them. I'll be honest, I don't always succeed,
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  Speaker 5: but I try. For this language guy. Once we eventually
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  Speaker 5: understood what it was but what we could use of
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  Speaker 5: his skills, it was clear that it wasn't a good
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  Speaker 5: fit for this team, so we had to tell him no.
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  Speaker 5: But we did refer him to some video game developers
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  Speaker 5: that we knew. I figured that there was a place
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  Speaker 5: like that that actually might appreciate some of his skills,
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  Speaker 5: including inventing your own language, and who knows, maybe that
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  Speaker 5: was exactly the right skill for that job.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, became kind of wholesome at the end.
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  Speaker 6: We kin in front of said they're leading with kindness.
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  Speaker 6: They were like, let's have the whole entire company coming
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  Speaker 6: there to watch him so we can make fun of la.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't a big fun of Yeah, that was just like,
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  Speaker 1: like check this out.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's standing wonder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was kind of nice, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like it's like you said, first, they're like, hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: let's all point and laugh at this guy. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then like let's show him some kindness.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty cool. Actually, I feel like that's the
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  Speaker 6: most unique.
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  Speaker 1: I love I love that that the story teller was
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  Speaker 1: at least caring about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think, like you said, more, I think
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  Speaker 5: it's a good rule, though, right, I mean, some people
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  Speaker 5: don't interview.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's just not a great experience for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. It's super scary. I think for some Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think there's some that walk in there.
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  Speaker 1: They're just naturals with people, and the interviews are great,
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  Speaker 1: and they and others who just you know, will stay
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  Speaker 1: in a bad job to avoid an interview.
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  Speaker 6: I think referring him to somebody else who is like
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  Speaker 6: really nice. But then like a lot of companies won't
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  Speaker 6: refer you to somebody else to interview for formally that
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  Speaker 6: like they didn't have to do that, Like they went
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  Speaker 6: out of their way to do that for him.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was cool, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because you could have a lot of those actual technical
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  Speaker 5: skills that they're looking for, but just happened to be
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  Speaker 5: maybe a little bit socially awkward and make yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like creating your language tea. Yeah, it's a bit socially awkward.
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  Speaker 2: He also thought he was the smartest person that they've
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  Speaker 2: ever met. Did say that maybe it's true.
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  Speaker 5: That is also he started, they probably rubbed you the
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  Speaker 5: wrong way, like sir, you're taking right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it might actually be true. Yeah, yeah, and maybe yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you never know. But I thought that was very interesting
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  Speaker 2: with his only yeah, sounds really cool.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Morgan? All right for us today?
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  Speaker 6: So actually we have a clip to watch from Riverside first,
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  Speaker 6: and then I could tell my fun little story.
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  Speaker 4: I got an employee who was almost a director level,
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  Speaker 4: just probably one level below a director, so as very
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  Speaker 4: senior manager. And the allegation was for mischarging of time
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  Speaker 4: that they were on a government contract and they were
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  Speaker 4: doing activities that were on company time, which was therefore
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  Speaker 4: a mischarging of time to the contractor. And so the
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  Speaker 4: investigation ensued and there was evidence that was actually sent
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  Speaker 4: to the president of the company, and it came down
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  Speaker 4: to me to work on the investigation when he was
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  Speaker 4: called in and it was actually what he had done
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  Speaker 4: was contacting a minor wanted to buy something of hers.
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  Speaker 4: So during the course of the investigation. He got up
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  Speaker 4: at one point and walked out of the investigation. Also
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  Speaker 4: threw away his identification into a shredder, and was therefore
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  Speaker 4: no longer legally from a security standpoint, able to be
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  Speaker 4: on the property. He left the property without badging out,
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  Speaker 4: piggybacked on someone else, and determination was made by legal
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  Speaker 4: and by HR that he would be terminated, and a
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  Speaker 4: vice president stepped in and overrode the termination, and literally
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  Speaker 4: one year to the date, the internal attorney called Van said,
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  Speaker 4: have you got the televisi? No, no, no, I don't have.
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  Speaker 4: He said, turn it on, And so I turned it on.
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  Speaker 4: And the FBI was arresting this person for multiple counts,
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  Speaker 4: not for mischarging a time, but for other multiple counts.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's a bad hire.
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  Speaker 3: That is a really bad hire.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bad Could you just get up and walk
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  Speaker 2: out during an investigation, like just leave? Guess you know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean you can. I would just typically lead to
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  Speaker 2: your firing. Yeah, right, so he's getting fired. Steps in
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  Speaker 2: saves him. I guess saved him. I don't know, Well
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really say that.
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  Speaker 1: They I guess they did. I guess they They did
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  Speaker 1: keep him and then while he was working there, they
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  Speaker 1: were getting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there was like a family relation
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  Speaker 2: to the vice president, like, oh no, this is my nephew,
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, keep him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, don't find the the security in the building,
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  Speaker 1: and like her understanding all the rules, like like where
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  Speaker 1: did she say where they where they worked?
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  Speaker 5: Did you say, like I don't think something something high
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  Speaker 5: level though, because there's a security badge, because you had
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  Speaker 5: your own security badge.
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  Speaker 2: She understood, and get out to get out. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: he's like that, you know, we have pretty secure facility,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't have the badge. Out of here.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's like leaving an apartment complex where the
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  Speaker 5: gate opens you have to like drive right behind somebody.
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  Speaker 5: It's like that kind of thing, getting out with somebody
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  Speaker 5: else's badge. Yeah, that is insane.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe they clock in clock out via their badge scanning too,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes companies do to track time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know what the use of him
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  Speaker 5: shredding the badge is and then going like what's if
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  Speaker 5: you're just gonna leave an escape and like never come
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  Speaker 5: back into way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love her story, though it's kind of confused.
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  Speaker 1: She's probably one of her like top kind of moments
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  Speaker 1: where like the yeah, some VP calls you says they
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  Speaker 1: turn your TV on right now?
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  Speaker 2: Does that does insane? It's like, oh my got second.
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  Speaker 2: We tried to fire. Yeah, well and Sam saved him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been here. I also love the details
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  Speaker 2: like are you watching the TV's Like, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: watching it. I got him too. It's the FBI, which
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  Speaker 2: means like serious, seriously, yeah, not not much time. Local
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  Speaker 2: crimes are serious, but.
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  Speaker 5: Not time theft for like standing around the water cooler too,
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  Speaker 5: yeah or whatever?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh wow, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, So I have a story today from Reddit, and
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  Speaker 6: so this person actually posts like all of her she's
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  Speaker 6: an attorney, so she posts all of her like wild
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  Speaker 6: legal stories, but she also posts for like bad hires
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  Speaker 6: that she has for her firm.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like a mix of both.
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  Speaker 6: But she kind of starts off the story and she says,
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  Speaker 6: I've shared a few wild legal stories before, but this
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  Speaker 6: one might be feature the worst hire I've ever seen,
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  Speaker 6: although honestly, the Everglades case might still top it. And
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  Speaker 6: that's the one where a guy suit a landowner for
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  Speaker 6: not wanting him to oh for not warning him that
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  Speaker 6: there were alligators in the Everglades after one bit off
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  Speaker 6: his hand and when he tried to pee on it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how she starts a story. So and she
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: said this one might be close to it.
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  Speaker 6: So if that gives you any idea about how we're
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: gonna got on this that, Yeah, and who is this?
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  Speaker 6: This is an attorney who hires like paralegals in Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: So but that was the case she was bringing up
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: because she was like, this bad hire story my top, that's.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: The ever Glad story. Who Everglade story too?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you peel on it?
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: Okay, I digress, but yeah, but today's story is about
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: a paralegal we hired who somehow managed to do worse
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: than that decision. This guy had graduated law school and
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: even passed the bar exam, but the bar refused to
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: license him for what they called professional and ethical reasons.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: We never found out exactly what those were, and in hindsight,
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: we probably should have tried hard to figure out what
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: that was. From day one, he had a huge ship
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: on his shoulder and about being a paralegal instead of
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: a lawyer. But despite that, he asked the most basic
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: questions imaginable, and if you'd explain something for the tenth time,
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: he'd say things like, well, how was I supposed to
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: know how.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Work should be prioritized?
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And when we're talking about choices like a trial next
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: week versus a discovery process that last nine months, not
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: exactly a philosophical dilemma, he would be like, I don't
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: know which one to prioritize, the trial or the thing
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: that takes nine months, Like he just was confused about.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: After two months of training, one of our attorneys gave
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: him a standard task create a medical chronology, basically a
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: dated timeline summarising four years of medical records for a case.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: He spent an entire week on it. Every time someone
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: why by his desk, he'd whisper, I have to concentrate
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: on this chronology. Finally Thursday, Yeah, finally Thursday afternoon. He
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: sends the attorney to finished document. It is one page long,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: two or three paragraph, no dates, just a vague summary
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: of four years of treatment. The attorney as why so
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: short and why it isn't you know, chronological. He gets
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: defensive and says, well, there weren't many records in the file.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: Then he leaves for the day the attorney opens the
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: case file to check and all the medical records are gone.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: She checks a backup drive. They're gone on there too.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Then she texts the other cases he'd worked on and
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: those records are gone too.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: It eventually figured it out.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Apparently, instead of summarizing the medical records, he had simply
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: just deleted them.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: His apparent plan was if there are no records, there's
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: nothing to suffer us.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, work smarter, not harder.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: The next morning, while he was still trying to figure
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: out what else he might have deleted, he shows into
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: the office at eleven forty five am. The office manager
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: asked why he's three hours late, and he says completely serious.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought I could make my own hours.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: This guy's all over the place.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: She reminds him there was a staff meeting at ten am,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: and his response was, oh, I don't read emails of
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: that afternoon. It stresses me out, and I only read
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: emails in the morning, which is an interesting strategy for
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: someone who shows up to work at eleven forty five.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: How this guy get hired, I know?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And she said she said he did not.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Last strategy for someone who says I only read him
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: in the morning, but I don't come into eleven forty
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: five the.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Fact that this dude passed the bar and then they
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: denied him.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: So like, there's no way, I don't know that's right
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: because he's he's what a paralegal or he's a lawyer.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: He's apparently because they passed the bar.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: But I don't know how he was studying when people
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: walking past us this that he's doing.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Now, yeah, he's probably not doing to that anymore so,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: but I've never seen professional and ethical reasons being a
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: raised and somebody didn't kids.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know a lot of.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Times I think it's the people just it's it's not
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: about the skill. They just they just don't want to,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you know, they just don't want to work. Yes, I'm motivated,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you know, easily distracted whatever it is.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Well, like working on a single document and then a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: week later it's like one page long.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really spend a week, right, So you see
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: what you did instead was you know, goof around, probably
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: play around on your computer, your phone, whatever you do,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you come back, you know, what
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: else would you do?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: And it's like SpongeBob trying to write that one paragraph
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: and then after a week it's just the word the
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: like right in cursive. That that's him trying to work
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: on her. Yeah, document, I mean.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: And deleting metal records is crazy like and the fact
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: that they had.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: To have it figured it all out and then he
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: did he did it on purpose. It's like, oh, let
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: me just like sneak past and yeah, less chronological things to.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Order and everything else he worked on he deleted too.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So I once I.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Once had a I once had a business partner who.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: She had.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: She old, you know, we we brought our business together
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and I was kind of take it over her company,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and she owed a lot of money that she didn't disclose, right,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And so apparently before I got there, she just took
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: all these bills that she owed and she just shredded them, right, Yes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So she just she went to a couple of her
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: staff and said, you know, we got to get rid
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of all this stuff, shred all this If we.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Shread them, you know what, you know, what's gonna need bankruptcy.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: No one's gonna know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: He's you know, can will never figure out that we
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: owe the money.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: We just shread the bills.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: They can't track this down, and so she ended up
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: taking a leave and uh, you know I did find out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So a couple a little bit of time goes by,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and of course the thing about bills is they just
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: mailed them again.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you owe more. So she's taken to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: leave absence.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Some stuff comes up, and I'm wondering what happened, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: so I, you know her, I don't go in her office.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I go in her office, and you know, the staff
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: have been her staff who've been covered kind of covering
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: or have been throwing her mail on there. And I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: see this huge stack of you know, bills, bills and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: uh with delayed notices, termination notices.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: All types of notices on them.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And you know that started just down downward spiral of yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: what was gonna happen?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: It doesn't really work with finances. Let me just leave
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: this bill on the counter. Let me just shred it,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: kind of like the guy tearing up the record.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Just just shred them, makes the bills go away.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Have you seen the office episode where he's like in there,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: they're in a like a lot of debt until he
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: talks to their financial advisor in their office and he's like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: what do I do? And he goes, oh, you need
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: to declare bankruptcy. So he walks out into the middle
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: of the whole office and he says, I declare bankruptcy.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: And that's how he thinks. You declare bankruptcy and fix
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: your debt. It's just a claari to get to your office.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: That's kind of I don't watch the Office and there
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: there are you lugging.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah you would you really like it?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't. I don't watch ton TV, So I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: mean there's some interesting storylines.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously we could probably do a whole podcast on
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: bad hires on the Office.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea. That that's a good idea, that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: a bad hire.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we could find what will we be allowed
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to play a clip from the office?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Could full time for sure? Yeah, that's what you should do.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: We didn't do a whole react series.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: One episode Yeah, one episode series where we react to
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: all the bad higher stories.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: But you can make it happen, but you're still recurring,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: kind of a recurring segment. Every once in a while
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll find a clip where he yeah, yeah, it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: like it's like a get out of jail free card.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it works. Oh yeah, the arcis run the clip?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where's our office clip?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, there you go. That's wait.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Don't you love one of those podcasts hosts.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Some crew of there like you can find this?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know five seconds later, you know the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: best ones that were like you can hear the producers
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: laughing in the background, you know, so we have to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: be funnier.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Was like, can you find the video of the crab
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: eating a gillusher?
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: And then he like pulls up and he's like, see
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: that that's a crab eating a gush or it's a
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: different time these days, and you're just like, how did
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: his producer find it that quickly?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: He's like meeting like.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: He's super geniuses to find himself. We'll get there, all right, man?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Is that it? Yeah?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's it for then. That's it for us today.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I hope they put the clip of the office in
• 24:06
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