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CA Agencies to Draft AI Safety Rules | Atlantic Hurricane Season Record Delay · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
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  Speaker 2: App. 640, Bill Handel here.
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  Speaker 3: On a Monday morning, September 21, breaking news. It looks
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  Speaker 3: like the state of California has just settled with Paramount.
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  Speaker 3: and it looks like the deal may very be cut.
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  Speaker 3: Someone mute there, please. Okay, now, I'm getting an echo here. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. Mute, mute, thank you. We tend to do
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  Speaker 3: that when we run over each other. Also, at this point,
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  Speaker 3: the AI story just keeps on going and going. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: CNN right now is trying to explain what artificial intelligence is.
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  Speaker 3: And for those of you, uh, well, let me ask
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  Speaker 3: you this. Can you define, can you tell me what
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  Speaker 3: artificial intelligence is without mentioning this show? No, you absolutely cannot.
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  Speaker 2: Can you? Okay. Moving on. Uh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, this is another one with the Trump administration where
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  Speaker 3: we know it. I mean, he did, the president does
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  Speaker 3: not like anything green and, He likes coal.
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  Speaker 2: He likes oil.
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  Speaker 3: He does not like alternative energy. He does not like
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  Speaker 3: social programs. And he just loves business. Okay, so now
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  Speaker 3: here's a story that the Endangered Species Act.
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  Speaker 3: That is in place says that anybody who builds or
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  Speaker 3: fells trees or whatever must be cognizant of the species
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  Speaker 3: and the habitat. And you can do it, but it
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  Speaker 3: has to be controlled and there has to be a
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  Speaker 3: plan to maintain habitat or the species. Well, the Trump
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  Speaker 3: administration just undid that completely. There's a new interpretation of
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  Speaker 3: the Endangered Species Act by the Trump administration that is
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  Speaker 3: a complete sea change in the way the law is interpreted.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a directive sent by the U.S. Fish
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  Speaker 3: and Wildlife Service employees that they got this week from
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  Speaker 3: the administration that says imperiled animals or plants must be
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  Speaker 3: intentionally targeted for their killing to be illegal. Boy, is
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  Speaker 3: that a turnaround, right? Because historically, people were liable, companies
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  Speaker 3: were liable, even for accidentally harming protected species, like grizzly bears, manatees,
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  Speaker 3: spotted owls. So here is what the change would be.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say in the lumber companies, okay, timber companies, and
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  Speaker 3: they're logging forests in the Pacific Northwest. even if they
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  Speaker 3: know that it would kill imperiled birds, for example, or
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  Speaker 3: for developers to build a dam, knowing it would kill salmon,
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  Speaker 3: if they don't intend to kill salmon or take out
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  Speaker 3: the birds, then it is legal for them to move ahead.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, the only people that are now liable
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  Speaker 3: under the Endangered Species Act is if you go out
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  Speaker 3: and say, I am cutting this tree in order to
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  Speaker 3: wipe out the spotted owl population. That's what I want
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  Speaker 3: to do. Not fell trees, not for business, but to
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  Speaker 3: kill the owls. I mean, you talk about a loophole
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  Speaker 3: that you can drive several Mack trucks through. And this is, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a huge change because what that means is developers,
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  Speaker 3: dam builders, the people who fell trees in forests, the
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  Speaker 3: big Weyerhaeuser, for example, are now able to indiscriminately go
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  Speaker 3: at it and build the dams and fell the trees
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  Speaker 3: and wipe out habitats because they're not intentionally doing that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: who is covered by the Endangered Species Act? Fumigators, pest
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  Speaker 3: control people are, because they are trying to wipe out
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  Speaker 3: those pests. They're trappers who are trying to trap animals.
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  Speaker 3: They're covered, but the rest of them, nope. As long
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  Speaker 3: as you don't intentionally harm an animal, then you're okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And the Endangered Species Act is credited with bringing back animals,
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  Speaker 3: including the bald eagle, which is, you know, in the
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  Speaker 3: United States, it was endangered, not up north. The American alligator,
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  Speaker 3: the California condor. And I've talked about the California condor
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  Speaker 3: because that is a magnificent bird. It's one of the
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  Speaker 3: largest birds in the world that has a wingspan of
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  Speaker 3: over six feet. It is so ugly, it is beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: If you go ahead and Google California condor, you are
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  Speaker 3: going to see probably the ugliest bird in the world.
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  Speaker 3: And at its lowest, there were 22 of them alive
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  Speaker 3: in the world back in the eighties. And they became
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  Speaker 3: obviously cause they were on the verge of extinction. And
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  Speaker 3: with since in the last couple of years, I think
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  Speaker 3: 2023 of the last numbers, there's still only 561 that
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  Speaker 3: are alive. that still inhabit the planet. And this is
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  Speaker 3: not some little cockroach, some species of a cockroach that
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  Speaker 3: you want to save. This is one of the most
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  Speaker 3: magnificent birds, indigenous to California, that exist anywhere. And the
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  Speaker 3: Environmental Endangered Species Act is credited with saving the condor. So,
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  Speaker 3: come on guys, really? I mean, I think we go
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  Speaker 3: too far. I mean, there's no question that environmentalists can
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  Speaker 3: get crazy with this. And one of my favorite stories is,
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  Speaker 3: I think, what is it? Up in the Delta, the
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  Speaker 3: Delta smelt, this little fishy that two inches and the
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  Speaker 3: only place that existed was one place. And there was
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  Speaker 3: a dam that they were spending hundreds of millions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars on building because this river that was dammed up
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  Speaker 3: is the only place in the world that had this smelt.
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  Speaker 2: This fish.
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  Speaker 3: And so they stopped the dam. And then you had
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  Speaker 3: a few fishermen a few years later go past the
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  Speaker 3: tributary near there where it was teeming with smelt. They
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  Speaker 3: couldn't cross it without hitting them. And you go, come on, guys.
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  Speaker 3: But again, there's a huge difference between this little fish
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  Speaker 3: or some frog. Although for the environmentalists. for those that
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  Speaker 3: are moving in that direction, it doesn't matter. Any insect,
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  Speaker 3: any fly that's endangered will stop entire dams and entire
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  Speaker 3: forests from being felled. Well, I mean, there is a
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  Speaker 3: level of reality and there's a level of reasonableness. But man,
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to saying that any endangered species, any
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  Speaker 3: species can be killed across the board, as long as
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  Speaker 3: you don't intend to kill that species, just don't intend
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  Speaker 3: to do it and you'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: An AI story, and we're going to hear a lot
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  Speaker 3: of AI stories. Gavin Newsom ordered state agencies to develop
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  Speaker 3: safety regulations for AI after vetoing similar rules two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: He's changed his tune. It's that simple.
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  Speaker 3: So now he wants requiring AI developers to include a
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  Speaker 3: kill switch to shut off certain programs in emergencies. And
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  Speaker 3: why is he changing his tune? Well, the political backlash
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  Speaker 3: has been very, very big. There's growing alarm over the
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  Speaker 3: fast developing technology as potential for catastrophic harms. like AI
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  Speaker 3: creating a bioweapon or bringing down the power grid. And especially,
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  Speaker 3: this got great legs this past week when a researcher
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  Speaker 3: from Anthropic set off a panic. He resigned from Anthropic
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  Speaker 3: and warned that technology could wipe out humans by the
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  Speaker 3: end of the decade.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about four years from now.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is AI CEOs didn't say he's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: They said, we are concerned about how fast AI is moving.
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  Speaker 3: Way faster than we appreciated or we planned on. And
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  Speaker 3: you've got Sam Altman of OpenAI.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, oh, yeah, we've got to slow this down.
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  Speaker 3: We want the government to get involved in helping us
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  Speaker 3: with guidelines. Interestingly enough, that's the pablum that he says.
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  Speaker 3: We want some guidelines. Well, how about putting in your
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  Speaker 3: own guidelines? Well, no, because we're competing with everybody else
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  Speaker 3: who is not putting in guidelines. Now, the president has
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  Speaker 3: called all of this basically fake news, that it's a hoax.
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  Speaker 3: The concern about AI is a complete hoax. Okay, that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, it's real. However, on one aspect of this,
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  Speaker 3: one of the reasons why he effectively doesn't want any
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  Speaker 3: controls on AI is China.
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  Speaker 2: China is moving as quickly as it can. Now, the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: At this point is ahead of China in the world
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  Speaker 3: of AI, but China is catching up so quickly and
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  Speaker 3: there are no safeguards. It doesn't exist in China. The
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  Speaker 3: safeguards are whatever Xi Jinping wants them to be. I mean, effectively,
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  Speaker 3: he is the dictator of China and the way he
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  Speaker 3: says China's should go, it goes. He likes AI because,
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  Speaker 3: and here again, where the president is right, whoever wins
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  Speaker 3: the AI battle wins.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is that all encompassing. So here is
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  Speaker 2: the issue.
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  Speaker 3: AI researchers said that fast developing technology is improving its
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  Speaker 3: own capabilities, that it is getting better. AI is getting
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  Speaker 3: better on its own. It's teaching itself beyond human control.
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  Speaker 3: And there were a couple of instances, and Richard Murrow
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  Speaker 3: described them as no big deal, except you certainly have
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  Speaker 3: the honchos in the world of AI and people who
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  Speaker 3: study it saying, well, it is a big deal. It
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  Speaker 3: is on the verge of literally creating its own ability
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  Speaker 3: to do what humans used to do, where computer programs
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  Speaker 3: are basically garbage in, garbage out. In other words, you
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  Speaker 3: needed a human coder to put in the code, and
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  Speaker 3: the code had to be established, written by, overseen by humans. Well,
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  Speaker 3: not with AI, it seems. It seems AI can take
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  Speaker 3: over all of that, even though here's the scary part.
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  Speaker 3: on its own, now moving ahead at an unbelievable rapid pace,
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  Speaker 3: which explodes even more. Now, does that mean AI has
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  Speaker 3: any morality?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no one knows.
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  Speaker 3: Do we go to the extent where, and this is
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  Speaker 3: the fear, that AI determines that humans are no longer
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  Speaker 3: valuable or necessary. And therefore, to minimize interference or risks,
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  Speaker 3: it says, okay, we're not going to deal with this.
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  Speaker 3: It's like robots, robotics on their own thinking that car
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  Speaker 3: manufacturing is better off with automatic arms. Well, that's not
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  Speaker 3: the case. People figure that one out. But AI may
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  Speaker 3: go way beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty scary stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And so Newsom said on Friday that this should alarm
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  Speaker 3: every American. And what he wants to do is set
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  Speaker 3: up state agencies recommending changes in state law. to require
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  Speaker 3: safety evaluators at AI companies, as well as require independent
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  Speaker 3: verification for AI companies' safety frameworks.
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  Speaker 2: How do we make this safe? Can it be done?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You can do it with a kill switch, which gives
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  Speaker 3: the ability of those that are running the AI programs,
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  Speaker 3: those algorithms, the ability just to shut it off, saying
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  Speaker 3: you're stopping right here. Well, the president doesn't want that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you China doesn't want that. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: which way do you go on that? Yeah, life is
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  Speaker 3: a lot more complicated. I mean, do you deal with
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  Speaker 3: international influences? Do we deal with China as far as
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  Speaker 3: our ability to deal with AI on our own as
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  Speaker 3: well as the domestic control? I think you have to.
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  Speaker 3: I think you absolutely have to. You can't ignore it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that simple. Now, where I may agree with
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  Speaker 3: the president, of course, he goes way too far because
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  Speaker 3: he's calling anybody who wants AI controls, they're all conspiracists.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, why not? You know, when in doubt, you're a conspiracist, right?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: It's getting really interesting here in Southern California. California and
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  Speaker 3: the world. Okay, some really good news weather-wise that may
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  Speaker 3: not be some really good news. The Atlantic hurricane season, really,
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  Speaker 3: there's no hurricane season. This is mid-September, the peak of
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  Speaker 3: the season, and it's the quietest start in at least
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  Speaker 3: 60 years. A record long wait for the first hurricane
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  Speaker 3: that hits during an intensifying El Nino. Now, a couple
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  Speaker 3: things I want to share with you, because at first glance,
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  Speaker 3: oh boy, this is terrific. September is typically the most
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  Speaker 3: active month. And why is that? Well, because sea surface
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  Speaker 3: temperatures are at their warmest. and atmospheric conditions are the
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  Speaker 3: most favorable for tropical development. This is storyoutofweather.com, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: So here's what's going on. This year, no active tropical
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  Speaker 3: storms are out there or hurricanes anywhere in the Atlantic Basin.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that is really unusual. Has it happened?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of times in the last 50, 60 years.
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  Speaker 3: But this one is, it may even hit a new record.
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  Speaker 3: the National Hurricane Center hasn't even circled any areas that
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  Speaker 3: could develop in the next seven days.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a blank outlook map.
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  Speaker 3: Normally when you have storms that are coming and you
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  Speaker 3: see that on the news and it says, and the
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  Speaker 3: reporters quote the National Hurricane Center and you look at
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  Speaker 3: that map the way they do with the circles, kind
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  Speaker 3: of neat, that graphic.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there ain't nothing there. There ain't nothing there.
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  Speaker 3: So what we're looking at is a map that we
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  Speaker 3: see in June, July, November, certainly not September. Now, we
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  Speaker 3: have not had any hurricanes, but we've had five tropical storms.
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  Speaker 2: Eduarda was the most recent.
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  Speaker 3: And that dumped two feet of flooding rain over parts
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  Speaker 3: of eastern Texas. I mean, these storms are... dumping insane
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  Speaker 3: record amounts of rains and causing incredible, devastating, life-threatening these floods.
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  Speaker 3: And so nothing on the radar, nothing on the horizon means, well,
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  Speaker 3: looks like 2026 is going to smash the satellite era
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  Speaker 3: record for the longest wait for the season's first Atlantic hurricane.
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  Speaker 2: Now, a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: Even though we've had some of the most intense storms, storms,
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  Speaker 3: not hurricanes, five of storms lasted, didn't last very long.
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  Speaker 3: Only Bertha in late July lasted longer than about one
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  Speaker 3: day in the Gulf. And so it's been pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: except for these rains, these rainstorms. Because this intensifying El Nino,
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  Speaker 3: which causes storms, has been the largest contributor to the
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  Speaker 3: way this hurricane season has unfolded. Here's what happens, and
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  Speaker 3: here's why we have so few hurricanes. El Ninos typically
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  Speaker 3: increase wind shear, and that's the change in wind speed
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  Speaker 3: and direction in the Atlantic Basin where all of this
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  Speaker 3: is created. And what happens is with this wind shear
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  Speaker 3: that is created by El Ninos, It shreds storms before
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  Speaker 3: they even develop or they weaken ones that do. And
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  Speaker 3: it's been wind shear from El Nino that has caused
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  Speaker 3: the Caribbean Sea to push out the strongest storms on record,
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  Speaker 3: but they didn't turn out to be hurricanes because the
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  Speaker 3: El Nino itself shreds those hurricanes and They die before
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  Speaker 3: they become hurricanes. But you know what they do? They
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  Speaker 3: come roaring down the pike as these incredible storms. And
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  Speaker 3: if you watch the news, which I do every day,
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  Speaker 3: you'll see, I mean, it's video after video and story
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  Speaker 3: after story. about the floods that are going on. Matter
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  Speaker 3: of fact, I don't remember a day in the last
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  Speaker 3: year when there wasn't a story about a flood somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in the country. And we're talking about world record floods.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about floods that kill a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: If you look back at the past four Atlantic hurricane seasons,
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  Speaker 3: in which El Nino eventually reached super status. There are
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  Speaker 3: several different kinds of El Nino, but when you hit
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  Speaker 3: super status, obviously that is a super level because that's
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  Speaker 3: the word super. You see how that works? Super means
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  Speaker 3: more than. Write this down so you figure this out.
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  Speaker 3: Super means more than, okay? And so if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the last hurricane seasons, the last four hurricane seasons
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  Speaker 3: in which El Nino did reach super status, There was
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  Speaker 3: only one September hurricane in each of those years. So
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  Speaker 3: a quieter hurricane season, which we would think, well, that's
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  Speaker 3: pretty good, doesn't necessarily mean that where you live won't
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  Speaker 3: experience a massive storm the rest of this season. Because
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  Speaker 3: it only takes one landfall, which we have here, or
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  Speaker 3: we have in the Gulf, excuse me, or in Florida
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  Speaker 3: on either side, One slow-moving, flood-producing tropical storm, even a
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  Speaker 3: weaker one, to make us remember this was a bad year.
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  Speaker 3: And if these storms find a pocket of favorable conditions,
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  Speaker 3: then you have a named storm that can develop. It
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't look like they're going to develop in hurricanes,
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  Speaker 3: which is hilarious because a hurricane kicks in at 85
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  Speaker 3: mph wind. So if you have a storm that is
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  Speaker 3: giving you 83 mile per hour winds, it's not a hurricane.
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  Speaker 3: And if it's dumping 24 inches of rain in eight hours,
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  Speaker 3: that's not a hurricane. It's just a storm. All right,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to finish it up with a coyote boom
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  Speaker 3: in L.A. County and how much we love coyotes. Now, yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: was it yesterday or the day before, I'm leaving my
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood and going onto the big street down the street
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  Speaker 3: from me to get up to a store. And all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, this car in front of me just
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  Speaker 3: stops cold. Now, I don't tailgate, but I'm slamming on
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  Speaker 3: my brakes. I'm going, what the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 3: It was a coyote that was crossing the street.
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  Speaker 2: And how many times do you see coyotes now?
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  Speaker 3: They're becoming more and more prevalent. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 3: do you know coyotes have been around Southern California since
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  Speaker 3: the Ice Age? But as humans colonized and we have
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  Speaker 3: industrial areas, coyotes' homes have now become community parks or
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  Speaker 3: beneath sheds in your backyard. Coyotes are one of the
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  Speaker 3: most adaptable mammals to exist. This was a daily news story,
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  Speaker 3: and it was in terms of what happened last Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: with Torrance. It became the last city in L.A. County
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  Speaker 3: to end its catch and release program or catch and
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  Speaker 3: euthanize program. And what coyotes have become, they're now urban coyotes.
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  Speaker 3: develop different behaviors, diets, genetic markers. I mean, it's really
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  Speaker 3: a different animal now. And they're incredibly difficult to track
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  Speaker 3: because I just see them, you know, who the hell
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  Speaker 3: is going to track them because they're so quick and stealthy.
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  Speaker 3: And the California Department of Fish and Wildlife estimates that
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  Speaker 3: it's been consistent in California, population between 250,000 and 750,000
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  Speaker 3: of these. And about 10 years ago, it, really changed
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  Speaker 3: because encounters began to change.
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  Speaker 2: You would see coyotes in the distance.
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  Speaker 3: Now you're seeing them lounging on your front yard and
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  Speaker 3: digging through the trash. And then you started in 2015
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  Speaker 3: seeing coyotes attack humans and pets. And now it gets
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  Speaker 3: pretty serious. I'm not a big fan of coyotes. One
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  Speaker 3: of them ate my little dog. a few years ago.
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  Speaker 3: A little Gucci was eaten by a coyote that came
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  Speaker 3: into my fence. And so you can't kill them. They're protected.
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 3: They don't let you do that. You can't trap them.
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  Speaker 3: They're protected. You have to have licensed people to trap them.
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  Speaker 3: So they're saying, why don't you haze them? What the
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: hell is hazing? Hazing is spraying them with water, making
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: loud noises. not having standing water, making it difficult for
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: them to go through your trash, keeping your animals, especially
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: small animals, from going outside, especially at night when you're
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: out there. We do that because of our little ones
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and we live in an area that has some hills
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: and we're really careful now. Now, to me, hazing also
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: involves a shotgun to hopefully blow their heads off. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: know that's not particularly legal, but hey, I don't want
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: one of them eating my dogs.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I don't need that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And so if I do that, you know, that is,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I think it may even be a federal offense, though
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: certainly a California offense, to kill a coyote. Of course,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: they can kill, they can eat your pets. That's fine
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: because they're protected. This is why God invented small artillery
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: pieces also. See, the shotgun only blows their head off.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: If you use a small artillery piece, you can create
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: little bits and pieces of coyote when aimed properly.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: So, coyotes. It's a real problem, by the way. It
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: really is.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And even worse than that, research shows that when coyote
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: populations are controlled aggressively, they actually do better.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They actually have little ones earlier. They have more litters.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: They bounce back even quicker when up to 70% of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: their numbers are removed. You remove 70% of the coyotes
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and you're worse off.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Bastards. Coyotes. I can't even give you coyote recipes, unfortunately. Okay,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: we're done, guys. It's Monday.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow is Tuesday, as you know. I think Neil comes
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: back tomorrow. and start all over again with, in the morning,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: wake-up call, Amy and Will, and then the rest of
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: us come aboard, and there's Will all excited, pretending that
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: we really like him.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, Will, enjoy yourself.
• 24:22
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