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You Don’t Have a Discipline Problem — You’re Following the Wrong Plan · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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  Speaker 1: Hey, faithful, Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast. In a moment,
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  Speaker 1: my dad, coach Alex van Houten, will help you honor
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  Speaker 1: God by making the most out of the body God's
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  Speaker 1: given you. Today you can expect truth from the Bible,
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  Speaker 1: tools from science, and guidance for everyday life. So listen closing,
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  Speaker 1: get ready, let's get one percent better today.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, faithful coach Alex? Here, grace in peace to you.
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  Speaker 2: This conversation on the Next Level Guys Show was one
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  Speaker 2: of those interviews that really got underneath the surface because
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  Speaker 2: we weren't just talking about workouts. We got to talk
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  Speaker 2: about men and what it looks like in their day
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  Speaker 2: to day lives, discipline, pain, honesty, and what it actually
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  Speaker 2: takes to change. And here's the thing I kept coming
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  Speaker 2: back to in this conversation. A lot of men don't
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  Speaker 2: need more hype. They need to tell the truth. Because
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  Speaker 2: it's one thing to say I need to lose ten pounds,
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  Speaker 2: it's another thing to say I don't like what I
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  Speaker 2: see in the mirror. I don't feel like I'm showing
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  Speaker 2: up well for my wife. I'm tired all the time,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have the energy to play with my kids.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm not living like the man God called
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  Speaker 2: me to be. That kind of honesty is hard, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also where change begins, because most people don't really
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  Speaker 2: change until the pain of staying the same becomes worse
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  Speaker 2: than the pain of doing something different.
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  Speaker 3: That's not condemnation, that's just reality. Jesus said, if any.
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  Speaker 2: Man wants to follow him, deny yourself and pick up
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  Speaker 2: your cross. That's not comfortable language, and it's not soft
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  Speaker 2: language either. It's a call to stop living by impulse
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  Speaker 2: and start walking with purpose and in health and fitness.
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  Speaker 2: That usually doesn't start with some dramatic overhaul. It starts
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  Speaker 2: with your one percent, one honest step, one thing to start,
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  Speaker 2: one thing to stop, one small act of obedience, repeated
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  Speaker 2: long enough to become part of who you are. So
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  Speaker 2: as you listen to this episode, I want you to
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  Speaker 2: wrestle with this question, what truth have I been avoiding?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know it would require me to change.
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  Speaker 3: Sit with that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't shame yourself, just bring it to light, because once
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  Speaker 2: you tell the truth, you can actually start moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: And before we jump in early Bird pricing for the
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  Speaker 2: faithful five k ends this weekend. Whether you're local to Greenboro, Arkansas,
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  Speaker 2: five K, and it's about more than a race. It's
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  Speaker 2: about putting a date on the calendar. It's about taking
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  Speaker 2: a real step. It's about training hard, praying harder, and
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  Speaker 2: making the most out of the body God's given us.
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  Speaker 2: So hit the link in the show notes and register
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  Speaker 2: for the Faithful five K today. I'll see you out
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  Speaker 2: there all right. Without further ado, let's dive into this
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  Speaker 2: conversation I had on the Next Level Guy Show.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the Next Level Guys Show podcast. I'm Ian
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  Speaker 4: and this is where man rebuild discipline, confidence, and take
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  Speaker 4: control of their lives. No hype, no excuses, just real
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  Speaker 4: conversations on practical tools. Let's get in to today's episode.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have a discipline problem, You're just trying to
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  Speaker 4: follow someone else's plan. Meet Alex van Houden, an exercise
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  Speaker 4: scientist and a coach who's helping high performers catch through
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  Speaker 4: the noise and actually make progress.
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  Speaker 3: That sticks.
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  Speaker 4: His personal journey of living with a painful genetic disorder
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  Speaker 4: called Eliars Danlos but still achieving his dreams taught him
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  Speaker 4: the discipline of one percent bear daily. It gave him
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  Speaker 4: a passion to help others do the same in their
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  Speaker 4: own lives. Coach Alex completed his undergraduate degree at Vanderbilt
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  Speaker 4: University in twenty ten, where he focused on chemistry and psychology.
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  Speaker 4: In the years since, he's earned certifications in personal training,
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  Speaker 4: corrective exercise, performance enhancement, and behavior change through the National
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  Speaker 4: Academy of Sports Medicine. He's written multiple peer reviewed articles
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  Speaker 4: for the International Sports Science Association and has published over
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  Speaker 4: five hundred five star podcast episodes He's Catching Up on Me.
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  Speaker 4: He's a certified nutritionist and a health coach through the
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  Speaker 4: Institute for Integrative Nutrition and has been a professional coach
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  Speaker 4: and personal trainer since two thousand and five. He works
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  Speaker 4: with everyone from everyday men to lead operators, showing them
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  Speaker 4: how to train, eat, and living a way that actually
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  Speaker 4: fits her life. This episode will help you feel less
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  Speaker 4: overwhelmed and finally understand why nothing seems to stick even
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  Speaker 4: when you know what to do. It will help you
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  Speaker 4: release the pressure to follow perfect plans and instead focus
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  Speaker 4: on what actually works for you. You'll feel more in
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  Speaker 4: control and more grounded, with a clear sense of where
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  Speaker 4: to start, without needing to overhaul your entire life overnight.
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  Speaker 4: Most importantly, you'll feel less alone, less alone in the struggle,
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  Speaker 4: and realize that real progress doesn't come from doing more.
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  Speaker 4: It comes from doing the right things, consistently and with
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  Speaker 4: the right support. And now let's get to the interview.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on. It's an honor
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  Speaker 4: to feature you. I've been listening, like we're just discussing
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  Speaker 4: soyet episodes, and I know that you work with some
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  Speaker 4: amazing people, but for people who don't recognize you, could
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  Speaker 4: you get a quick introduction on yourself, but also how
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  Speaker 4: you'd like people to know yours.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so on a professional level, I would say that, Hi,
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  Speaker 2: what's up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm coach Alex ben Houghton.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an exercise scientist and faith based health coach and
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  Speaker 2: I get to help people make the most out of
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  Speaker 2: the body God's given them. And I do that in
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  Speaker 2: a number of ways with exercise, nutrition and lifestyle coaching.
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  Speaker 2: And on the more personal side, I'm a husband, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a father. I live in the Midwest here in the
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  Speaker 2: US in Greenbrier, Arkansas. We have chickens and I work
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  Speaker 2: out regularly and we have a great time just doing
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  Speaker 2: life in a positive and powerful way. And I love
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  Speaker 2: helping people do the same on their journey.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm working in a government role, just now
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  Speaker 4: working with a police force, etc. What do you think
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  Speaker 4: people get wrong about elite performance? You know, because you've
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  Speaker 4: trained with some amazing people, you train to an elite standard.
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  Speaker 4: But what's the difference between elite performance and just going
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  Speaker 4: to the gym?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you know? There's a number of differences.
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  Speaker 2: I would say one of the primary differences is that
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  Speaker 2: when we look at elite performance, and this is operators.
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  Speaker 2: These are individuals who are working at the state and
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  Speaker 2: local level for mission based work. But you could also
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  Speaker 2: say elite performance has to do with high level athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: And then I work with elite performers who you wouldn't consider,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like Navy seals or everyday spies. We're talking
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  Speaker 2: moms and dads or CEOs of companies who understand that
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  Speaker 2: their body and their mind need to be in good health.
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  Speaker 3: In order to operate at their best level.
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  Speaker 2: The difference, the major difference between elite performers and the
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  Speaker 2: general population working out is that elite performers understand that
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  Speaker 2: there's a very speci secific way they need to feed themselves,
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  Speaker 2: a very specific way they need to move themselves, and
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  Speaker 2: that specificity is different than maybe the person that they're
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  Speaker 2: married to, or maybe the person that's working out next
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  Speaker 2: to them at the gym, or maybe the person that
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  Speaker 2: that's their coworker.
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  Speaker 3: And so elite performers are.
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  Speaker 2: Not swayed by the fads of the health and fitness industry,
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  Speaker 2: the latest thing that tells you should take this supplement,
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  Speaker 2: or the latest thing that tells you should do high
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  Speaker 2: intensity exercise versus weight training or whatever. They understand how
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  Speaker 2: to take care of themselves as individuals, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: an elite performer knows that's different from the average person.
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  Speaker 2: And in the science we call that bio individuality. Your
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  Speaker 2: DNA and my DNA are different, Your microbiome and my
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  Speaker 2: microbiome are different. So some of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: need to do to get the most out of myself
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  Speaker 2: might be different from some of the things that you
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  Speaker 2: need to do in order to get the most out
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  Speaker 2: of yourself. Typically speaking, we understand those things. It's a
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  Speaker 2: lot harder in practice though, to understand how to take
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  Speaker 2: care of yourself on an individual level, but it's worth doing.
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  Speaker 4: And do you think that's what a lot of people miss?
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  Speaker 4: You know that we pick up like the Men's Health,
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  Speaker 4: the maxim Fi gym point, whichever Marzina is, and it's
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  Speaker 4: the kookie Katter approach, and we think, yep, or will
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  Speaker 4: do the same as the big guy at the gym,
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  Speaker 4: not understanding the different cycles, the different food supplements and
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  Speaker 4: the et cetera he's on. Is that what we miss
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  Speaker 4: is that individuality We kind of fall back on everybody's
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  Speaker 4: doing it. It must be right.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely a huge part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So there's a huge piece of let's say you
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  Speaker 2: did everything perfect, whatever that means you you ate perfectly,
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  Speaker 2: you exercise perfectly for your body, and you got the
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  Speaker 2: most out of you, and you looked at what you
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  Speaker 2: were doing versus another elite operator getting their perfect program,
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  Speaker 2: their perfect amount of sleep, they're perfect nutrition, right, they
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  Speaker 2: would look different because perfect for you looks different from
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  Speaker 2: perfect for them.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not actually where most people are missing it.
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  Speaker 2: Where most people are missing it is many people know
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  Speaker 2: what they need to be doing for themselves, but they're
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  Speaker 2: just not doing it. One of the largest longitudinal studies
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  Speaker 2: of weight loss, for example, because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people in health and fitness who try to do something
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  Speaker 2: healthy or do something fitness based to lose weight. Right,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest longitudinal study looked at, Okay, let's say there's
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff in the world, what exercise works, what
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  Speaker 2: nutrition works, what's actually working for people?
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  Speaker 3: And what was crazy? Is the science found?
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking a study over eighty thousand participants in
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  Speaker 2: a span of five plus.
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  Speaker 3: Years losing weight.
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  Speaker 2: The actual variables that matter had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the diet that was espoused and nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the exercise that was espoused. It was actually whether or
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  Speaker 2: not the individuals had access to a professional that they
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  Speaker 2: trusted to ask questions. That was That was the first
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  Speaker 2: most important variable. Do I have access to a professional
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  Speaker 2: that I trust to ask questions along this journey that
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  Speaker 2: would that would have something to do with that personalization piece.
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  Speaker 2: And then the second is do I have access to
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  Speaker 2: a community who's also working on the same goals I am?
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  Speaker 2: And And those were the two variables. It wasn't whether
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  Speaker 2: you followed the KEDO diet. It wasn't whether you lifted
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  Speaker 2: weights or not. It wasn't whether it did cardio or not.
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  Speaker 2: It was do I have the social cohesive support that
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  Speaker 2: both allows me to move forward when I have questions
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  Speaker 2: and also keeps me accountable when I really don't feel
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  Speaker 2: like doing what I want to do? And that was
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  Speaker 2: that was the rub And so so I think I
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  Speaker 2: think we miss it on both of those friends. We
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  Speaker 2: miss it on the bio individuality of somebody, but we
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  Speaker 2: also miss it on the we think we're going to
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  Speaker 2: do this all by ourself thing, when when at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, what actually works, and we know
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  Speaker 2: this to be true, what actually works is the human connection,
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  Speaker 2: both with a professional and the social aspect.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not the sort of the the unsexy part
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  Speaker 4: of elite performance. Do you think it's the moment of
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  Speaker 4: you see the seals and all these sort of people
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  Speaker 4: going out and doing these heroic things, but we don't
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  Speaker 4: see them marking side by side, drilling, repping, fixing their
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  Speaker 4: unique skills set and then you know the fault Baco
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  Speaker 4: and that, but otherhood together but also the individually focused
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  Speaker 4: on their own skills and weaknesses.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: You see the you see the high level operator doing
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  Speaker 2: something amazing. We just saw the Olympics, right, you see
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  Speaker 2: the high level operator doing something amazing. What you don't
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  Speaker 2: see unless unless somebody points your attention to it, is
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  Speaker 2: the whole team they have that is telling them what
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  Speaker 2: to eat, how to exercise, how to overcome injuries. Right,
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  Speaker 2: you have a professional team telling you what to do.
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  Speaker 2: You also have other athletes that are regularly training with
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  Speaker 2: you that you're connected to, right, and you also for
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  Speaker 2: many of the athletes, they will get on the podium
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  Speaker 2: and thank their mom and dad, and thank.
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  Speaker 3: Their brother and their sister, and thank their their uncle.
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  Speaker 2: Who taught them how to weightlift, you know, or whoever
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  Speaker 2: it was that inspired them to continue doing this thing
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  Speaker 2: that they are that they are both dedicated to and
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  Speaker 2: committed to moving forward on and so and so. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's definitely the un sexy part of health and fitness.
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  Speaker 2: People have a lone wolf mentality a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: culturally speaking, that if I could just figure out the
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  Speaker 2: best program, I'd be fine. And the reality is we're
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  Speaker 2: not that great individually. There are a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: I've met with amazing willpower, but we're not that great
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  Speaker 2: individually at guiding ourselves and We're not that great individually
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  Speaker 2: at inspiring ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: That requires other people.
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  Speaker 4: Now, one of the big things we've noticed, whether certain
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  Speaker 4: president and things like that, is this whole fake news
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  Speaker 4: and the source season, you know, anything that disagrees with
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  Speaker 4: your viewpoint, or are people doing their own research and
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  Speaker 4: they do a dot com search rather than research papers
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  Speaker 4: and speak to experts, et cetera. What have you noticed
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  Speaker 4: in nowadays with the mental side of this of like
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  Speaker 4: finding the correct like research to the you know, the
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  Speaker 4: building the correct network of coaches, scientists, supplement ranges companies
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  Speaker 4: for people who are not like working in a role
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  Speaker 4: where they have the tools and equipments applied, how can
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  Speaker 4: they find this in their own and know and gauge
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  Speaker 4: the you know, the suitability of a source and know
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  Speaker 4: what works for them on what's sort of more hot
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  Speaker 4: air or bro science. I think is the term a
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  Speaker 4: lot of kids nowadays use.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, it's it's not easy.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy, And it's for this reason that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times when I work with somebody through through
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  Speaker 2: everyday spy we have a we have a whole spy
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  Speaker 2: fit brand where peop will do challenges, they'll do individual coaching.
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  Speaker 2: And I just got off the phone with a lady
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  Speaker 2: this morning who crying said I'm so glad I found you.
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  Speaker 2: I've been looking for you for a decade, right, So,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's a very emotional experience when you learn that
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  Speaker 2: all the things you've been trying were not the answer
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  Speaker 2: for you and you find somebody who can help you
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  Speaker 2: put the pieces together for you. And that's I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to pretend that that's an easy thing. It's very difficult.
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  Speaker 2: In our world today, there's a lot of signal noise,
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  Speaker 2: is what we call it in the intelligence world, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of signal noise in social media, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: signal noise on the internet. We can do it right
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  Speaker 2: now as a fun thought experiment, how many calories should
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  Speaker 2: I be eating?
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  Speaker 3: Good luck? Like you're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and like you're actually more confused than before
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  Speaker 2: you ask the question, right, But but if you have,
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  Speaker 2: if you have somebody who you can ask, as a professional,
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  Speaker 2: how many calories should I be eating? And my professional
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  Speaker 2: answer to that, if you were to ask, is what
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  Speaker 2: I want to do first is understand what you're currently
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  Speaker 2: eating and how that's infecting you. So I want I
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  Speaker 2: want about a week worth of food journals to work with,
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  Speaker 2: and then what you and I are going to do
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  Speaker 2: is evaluate what your body looks like right now, any
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  Speaker 2: health history issues you've had in the past, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to separate our understanding of food from just calories
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  Speaker 2: to calories which are energy and nutrients that your body needs.
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  Speaker 2: And then we're going to start incorporating nutrient dense foods
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  Speaker 2: and getting smart about our calorie intake and see how
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  Speaker 2: our body responds over this week.
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  Speaker 4: And so the answer so for somebody who thinks, oh lot,
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  Speaker 4: just need to eat. There a lot of people simplify
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  Speaker 4: you like diet nutrition, but they don't look at it
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  Speaker 4: like that. And my bones, the nutrients, the like fungi,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the blood cholesterol labels, all the sort of
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  Speaker 4: tastes that you would want like somebody to be taken
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  Speaker 4: at this level. What are the tastes that we should
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  Speaker 4: take and what are the ones that would be nice
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  Speaker 4: to know before you start on such our adventure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very fair question.
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  Speaker 2: Well, today we have some very very amazing testing capability
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  Speaker 2: that we didn't have even just a decade ago, Right,
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  Speaker 2: So you have tests of the current condition of your
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  Speaker 2: body that would be things like blood tests, your blood
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  Speaker 2: glue cose, your total cholesterol, your high density lipoproteins, like
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that your primary care physician probably asks you
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  Speaker 2: to do every year. Right, And those are a good
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  Speaker 2: high level understanding of how things are operating, but it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not the full picture.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of other things you can do
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  Speaker 2: that are more differentiated, things like hormone testing or even
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  Speaker 2: your microbiome. The entire companies right now that will take
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  Speaker 2: a sample of your feces via mail and tell you
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  Speaker 2: what your what your microbiome spectrum looks like. So that's
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  Speaker 2: the environment of your body. This is what's actually what's
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  Speaker 2: actually occurring right now, and that could be useful and helpful.
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  Speaker 2: It could also be a lot of data, very overwhelming, right.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's also and that this this is something
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  Speaker 2: we've like I said, in the last decade, have been
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  Speaker 2: able to do. There's also your genome. This is the
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  Speaker 2: unique configuration of your DNA and some of the things
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  Speaker 2: that are working for you from a health and fitness
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  Speaker 2: perspective and some of the things that might be working
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  Speaker 2: against you from a health and fitness perspective. And in
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  Speaker 2: my work, when somebody starts asking me about testing, There's
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  Speaker 2: two two primary factors. The first is what's my capacity
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  Speaker 2: to change? Because if I do all the testing in
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  Speaker 2: the world and all the data is very overwhelming to
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  Speaker 2: me and I don't make any changes, then all I've
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  Speaker 2: done is accumulate fancy fridge art right now.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's that's very important.
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  Speaker 2: So if somebody knows, hey, I'm not I haven't been
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: walking every day, and I know I should be walking
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: every day. I don't care what your blood values tell you,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and I don't care what your genome tells you, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I don't care how many different macrophases you have in
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: your microbiome. You should probably start learning to walk every day.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That's very important, right, And I don't mean to make
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: it sound too easy, but that's extremely important. And we
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: often over complicate health from a testing perspective because of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: this reason. So I need to understand my capacity to change.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Are there things I.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Know I need to be doing that I'm not doing
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: and we need to dive into that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: We need to understand that we need to get whatever
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: social support systems required on the fronts that I already
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: know I need to change, right, And I think this
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is very important before testing, because we can over complicate
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: things very rapidly if there's already things we know we
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: need to be doing and we're not. But then from
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a testing perspective, I'd say the most high level and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: powerful thing that people can do is get a good
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: nutrition genome readout for themselves, and there's a couple of
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: companies that do that decently. It's not an exact science.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: There's nobody in the world that despite the claims, there's
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: nobody in the world that can take your genome and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: say here's what you need to eat for the rest
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: of your life, right, but it can tell you important
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: things like, for instance, I have a variation in my
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: MTHFR gene, which which I'll tell you the complicated part
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and then simplify it. That means that my body does
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: not convert folic acid to methyl fol eight very well.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Methyl fol eight is the metabolic.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Version of folic acid, but many food products have been
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: fortified with folic acid, and there's a small percentage of
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: population like me who aren't very good at converting fullic
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: acid to methyl full eate. What that means is if
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I consume a bunch of fortified foods that fullic acid
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: will build up in my system over time and show
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: up as an immune response. It could give me my grains,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I could have low energy, I could have muscle pain
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and spasms. There could be all kinds of things that
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: happen as a result of that. It's not going to
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: kill me, but it's going to make me feel terrible, right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And so, knowing that about myself, I get my full
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: eight from other sources. I'm careful to read labels that
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for foods that have been fortified with fullic acid, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that has made a significant difference in the way I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: feel on a regular basis and how I recover from training.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And so I highly recommend that if somebody is interested
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: in kind of a first step forward in taking care
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of themselves and learning how to feed themselves or move
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: themselves well, genetic testing is a very useful thing, and
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that's something that we guide people through in our everyday
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: spy individual coaching.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: No, a fantastic point. I mean, because a lot of
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: people do get bogged down in the science. They'll read
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: ninety different sources and they think I have no idea
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: where to even start. But you've made a great point
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: there about like just get up and walk, just get
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: start eating a bit better, you just get into that
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: habit of moving and exercising. At least build in that part.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: But I think that's another part of this whole thing
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that a lot of people think, I'm going to go
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to lose sixty pounds, I'm going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: get washboard abs, I'm going to do this, I'm going
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to do that. And the last time they got off
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the couch was to run for a bus. You know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: there's no kind of they haven't really built up the
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: habit to make it something that they can build into.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Part of their life.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: What habits do you notice with these sort of top
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: performers are the people who do make these everlasting changes,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: you know, the resilience, the consistency, the just getting them
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: into making fitness part of a well regulated lifestyle for them.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's such an important question. So imagine you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: have a high performer. This is somebody who has already
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: made fitness a part of their life. They see their
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: food differently than the general population, right, And and then
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you have somebody who's in that place that you last
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: time I got off the couch, I was I was
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: trying to catch the bus.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: That was right. And when this.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Person looks at the high performer, they go, oh, I
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: love to be like that, but they can't even imagine
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: what a day in the life looks like. And to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: try to emulate that that learning curve is too intense.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: There's no way you're not going to make it. You
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: don't have you don't have enough cognitive capacity and willpower
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to act like a high performer when you're not one.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And that's the rub is understanding. Okay, growth is exponential,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: but it starts with tiny, tiny, incremental steps, and the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the more you make those steps, the faster you grow. So,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: giving example, I am a person who hasn't gotten off
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the couch and I'm looking at a high performer and go, man,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I'd really like to be like that when I grow up.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Whatever that looks like for you, right, And so step one,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I need to exercise five days a week. Let's say,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: let's say that's the habit that I understand is important. Right, Well,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: my first workout is not going to be the ninety
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: minute workout this guy's doing my front, and if it is,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get injured or discouraged or never come.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Views I'm never going to come back right. I'm never
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: going to come back right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So I believe it's important to have some humility in
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: this process and say, hey, I first I need to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: build the habit of exercising. It doesn't even matter what
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: it is, it doesn't even matter. It just matters that
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I do it consistently. And that's something we learned in
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the exercise science. Consistency of exercise matters more than volume,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: which is how long we do it, many reps, how
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: many sets, and matters more than intensity. So like if
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I had to make a chart, it'd be consistency greater
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: than volume, greater than intensity. But in our world we
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: have that flipped around. Most people see exercise as oh,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I got to go intent, I got to go lift heavyweights,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I got to go run as fast as I can
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: until I'm sweating. I got to go if I'm not
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: breathing hard, I'm not doing anything right. Well, they'll do
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: that once in a month because it sucks, especially if.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: You're not conditioned right.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And then we sacrifice what matters most, consistency for intensity.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And so what I would say to that person who's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: starting there is understand an elite operators operating at a
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: place that you probably could get for you, whatever that
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: looks like for you, if you slowly, incrementally, consistently added
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: habits to your life that brought you closer and closer
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to what the day in the life of a high
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: level operator looks like. And yes, you know, biologically you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: have some limitations. You might have some injury history or
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: health issues that you're wrestling with, and obviously it's it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: incumbent on you to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Make the most of that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But don't start by trying to do everything that person's doing.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Start by breaking down the habits that matter in building.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Them with humility.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Fantastic answer. I mean, because that is something that we
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: do nowadays. If we look at social media and we
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: see like the Rock and we Cavil all these sorts
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: of people doing like working out, but they have their
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: own private gym, they're private chef, they have a certain
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: amount of time to train, et cetera. They have the
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: requirements and the you know, the kind of outside pressure
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: that makes them train in certain ways. They have to
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: train for our TV, they have to be ready, et cetera.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: It's how can we then look at these people. You know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: maybe if you mentioned some great examples or people. How
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: to find somebody that inspires you. But how do we
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: then start reverse engineering from the habits of these people
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: to then start implementing them in our own lives. Is
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: it a wait to say that'll work for me? That's good,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: that's like, how do we start pinching from the elite
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to start doing of our own ladder?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. That's that's a fair question.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And and there's there's kind of two I'm going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: speak about it from two perspectives. I'll speak about it
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: from the like, if you have somebody that you admire
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I want to be like that person,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: want to grow up they're great. Learn everything you can
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: about what they do, how they say things, what their
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: what their life looks like. It was actually actually Jesus
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: who said you will know them by their fruits. There's
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who will talk a lot of
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: a lot about how how life works and what to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: do and how to make a million dollars and ten
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: minutes or whatever else, how to how to get six
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: pack abs in six weeks, right, and it's all over
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the place. But you will know them by their fruits.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: What kind of life do you want Do you want
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to be married? Do you want to have kids? Do
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you want to be do you want to be present
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: for those things?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Uh? Do you do you want to build a bunch
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: of wealth for yourself?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do with that? Do you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: want a business that requires seventy hours a week from you? Like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: get a get a full picture of these people that
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you admire. And then when you when you have found
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a person like that, you're a very blessed person to
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: have a picture in your mind of what you want
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to strive for, then learn and understand what their their
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: habits are. It's not an easy thing you'd have to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You'd have to research I don't know, at least one
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: hundred hours to understand somebody's life well enough to start
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: emulating those things. But it sure beats the ten thousand
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: hours you're going to have to figure it out for yourself.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's that's a that's called mastery. It takes a long
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: time to learn how to how to do all this
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: stuff from scratch, right, But so that's that's the big
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: picture perspective. And like we live in a world of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: we're so content heavy these days. You can you can
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: hear a three hour interview with the rock if you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: want to it cysts, you know, like you can you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: can hear a three hour interview with the gal who
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: who won Olympic gold medals.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: You can like.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Bear Grills is one of the guys that I admired.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Bear Grills. He's a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: survivalist British muscal forces. I thought he was a thought.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He's a fantastic guy. He's got I don't know, hundreds
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: of hours of televised interviews with individuals and time spent
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: in the in the wilderness and stuff. So if you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: care to research people, you can, and you can learn
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: about the things that made a difference for them. On
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the flip side, when you look at your life, you
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: can actually you can actually spend some time visualizing the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: things that matter to you and breaking things down to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the places that you understand.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Are worth moving forward for you. I'll give you example.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Every single client that I ever work with, we walk
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: through this process for the year. We say, first, if
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I did everything right, whatever that means to you, you
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: define it, I don't care what it is.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: If I did everything right, where am I next year?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: What's that look like like? What's the best case scenario
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: for me? Kind of health? Am I'm in? Kind of pain?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Am I in?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: How energetic do I feel? What am I capable of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: doing that I can't do now?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Because a year is far enough that I can make
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a difference, but not so far that it's unimaginable.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what if I did everything right?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: What's that look like? And that gives us something to
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: strive for? Helps me as a coach to understand what
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: matters to you. Also helps you as an individual to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: start picturing. And the more vivid, the better, start picturing
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: what it is that you actually are you care to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: work for?
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And then we got to do the flip side. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: this is really painful. This is psychologically powerful.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: If I did everything wrong, what's the worst that can
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: happen a year from now?
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: This? Right? Is this? I doubt it? But if I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: did everything.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Wrong, if I let all my bad habits get the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: better of me, I ate all the garbage I could
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: possibly eat, but taste very good. If if not only
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: did I not exercise, I did injurious things to myself. Whatever,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't sleep well, I drank too much caffeine and alcohol.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I did you know, just just keep just keep piling
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: on all the bad stuff, and then picture what a
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: year from now looks like.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: What does that look like for you?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And then what you've essentially created is the most powerful
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: construct for personal motivation, which is what am I running toward?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And what am I running from? And for many individuals
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that's necessary. Humans are actually more motivated by avoiding.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Pain than they are from seeking reward.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: And and you might not believe that until you have
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: back pain one day and then you're like, anything I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: can do to get out of this pain?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Or a tooth I ever added tooth infection? Like what
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: can I do to get away from this pain? Right?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And pain is.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Very motivating, and so if you can understand, if you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: can understand what you'll lose if you don't make progress,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that's visualizing where.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: You'd like to be a year from now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: And if you can understand the pain you're headed for
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: what's worth running from, then those two things can be
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: extremely powerful. And from there you ask yourself, what's my
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: one percent? If I can get one percent better every day,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: what's my one percent? What's the thing that right now
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I have control over I can make a difference in
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It's not too hard for me. It's not too big
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: for me. But I'm willing to do that thing whatever
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: it is. It might be something I need to stop doing,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: might be something I need to start doing. What's my
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: one percent? And then finally, the question is who's in
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: my corner? Because I know where I want to be,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I know where I don't want to be. I know
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: what I need to do. Need somebody to either help
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: me along that path or call me out when I'm
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: not doing what I said I wanted to.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And that's really the whole package.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: There's a few other pieces in there, but whether you're
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: looking at somebody you admire and working to emulate them,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: or looking at your own life and working to make
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the most out of what you've been given, the end result,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the end answer, is taking one small step in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: direction of where you know you want to go and
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: then humbly working toward that.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I love the way you break it down, and you've
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: kind of fill in the gaps of where people might
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: you know, the pitfalls, or where people might go wrong,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: but where to see people burning out because even though
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you know, if we have people who are supportive of us,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: we know where we want to go. Roughly, we start
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: putting in new hobbies and habits, et cetera. You know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: like going to jiu jitsu or going to the gym
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: for a certain class just to get exercising, or wherever
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: it is to build that aspect.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: In your life.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: But where do you find people are burning out? You
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: know why? How can we remove the ego that thinks
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: we're getting laughed at because I'm overweight? You know, I
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: can't go to the gym anymore. Or I know they
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: tweak their back because they try to lift heavier than
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the guy beside them and end up not coming back
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to the gym after the injury. We're just being go
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: wrong by our self esteem, our lack of confidence, our jealousy,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: all the all the habits that are holding us back
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: that you notice the elites have managed to eliminate.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's it's there's really three things. The first
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: is the learning curve. The learning curve is well, it sucks.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I call it the new phase. Do you like playing
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: video games? We're playing video games?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Football Manager?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Okay? Cool?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I like video games and in video games. It's it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: kind of nice because learning curves are very condensed, unless
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it's a very complicated game. So, but there's something called
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the Nube phase and ob meaning I'm new to this game,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: so I'm terrible at it, right and so and so
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the Nube phase is rough because because when you when
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: you play the game, whatever game it is, you get
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: shot five thousand times. You're running around pointing your your
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: gun at the ceiling and you don't know how to maneuver.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: It might be it might be a less violent game.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe you're playing Mario and you just
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: keep falling in the hole and dying over and over again.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Right, the game's not fun in the Nube phase. And
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: so that's actually something people have to get over in
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: health and fitness when they first start moving in this
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: direction for themselves, because you're not going to be great
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: at it. You're going to come up against all sorts
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of obstacles that make you think you don't know what
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you're doing and that you're terrible and it's not for you,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and fine, like, acknowledge the pain right now and do
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: not give up. That's the new phase. Because the only
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: way through the new phase is grit. The only way
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: through the new phase is to just keep coming back
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: to it every day until You're not a nube anymore.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And that's a big deal.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Because, like you said about the guy tweaking is back
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: doing a deadlift, that's a that's a that's a nube obstacle.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You you knew you shouldn't have gone up with that
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: much in weight, but you did anyway, and three reps
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: in now it hurts and you're like, ah, and you
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: you have a you have a choice. Does this mean
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: no more weight trading for you? Or does this mean, Hey,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take good care of my back. I'm
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: going to come back to the weights, and I'm going
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to be a little more humble about how quickly I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: progress next time. Maybe I'll even ask for some coaching
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: so that my form's good and my mid I'm not
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: my mind's not.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Wandering while I'm lifting.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Right, So, so all this stuff right, But that's the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: nude phase. So people get burnt out in the nude
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: phase very frequently. For the average person, that happens at
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: about week two or three in their in their fitness
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: journey is usually when stuff like that happens. It could
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: happen at other times, but the nub phase is a
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: big burnout. I can keep talking, but do you have
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a comment about that?
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just gonna I really enjoyed it because
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I was thinking of like the individual game. You know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: as she progress, the mop opens up, and that's the
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: part I really enjoy is not how do you make
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: that encoutagen.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It for people?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Is It's exactly what you just said. The new phase
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: is hard because you're not great at it yet. But
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the new phase is also very exciting because you're constantly
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: opening up new avenues, right, which is not true of
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: somebody who's been playing a game or in health and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: fitness for themselves for a long time.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So, as an example, if I started weight training to
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: gain muscle, and you started weight training to gain muscle,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: as long as you didn't do anything to injure yourself,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: if you haven't been weight training much, you're going to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: gain way more muscle in eight weeks than I am.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Why it's the nube phase. Your body's like, oh my gosh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: he's lifting weights put on as much muscle as possible.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: My body's like this guy's been doing this for like
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: twenty years, Like what more muscle can we put on?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to have to work really hard
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: over eight weeks to gain just a couple of pounds
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: of muscle. Whereas a nube can can start learning new exercises,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and a nube can start lifting heavier weights relatively quickly,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a nube can start seeing changes in their body.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Like, wow, I had, there's a muscle I didn't know
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I had. Look at that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: So and so it can be very exciting if you're
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: willing to stick with the pitfalls of those obstacles. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: so for my part as a coach, it's helping people
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to see their progress when they when they come up
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: against an obstacle in one avenue, it's helping them see, hey,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: but look, look how much the world's opened up to
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you in these ways. Right, and and that's a that's
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: a difficult part of the new phase for sure, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: it's there. On the other end of the spectrum we've got,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: we've got. The other way people can burn out is
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: reaching the top. It's a completely different problem. I've run
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the fastest mile I can run, I've lift the heaviest
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: weight I can run, I've been ten percent body fat
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: for three years.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever it is, what's next? Where do I
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: go from here?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: And that's something that can burn people out too, because because.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: The the joy of.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Setting a goal and working toward a goal is actually
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: much higher than reaching the goal. You don't get a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you actually measure somebody's serotonin, how good you feel about something.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: It's not very high when you get the metal. It's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: way higher in the training process of visualizing getting the metal.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Same thing with the dopamine. Right. So, once you reach
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the top, once.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You have run the event, once you have done the mission,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: once you have lost the weight or whatever it is.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Once you reach that pinnacle, that can be really difficult.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And that's where that exercise that I just told you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: about comes in. Where it's really important. You have to
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: revisualize what the coming year looks like and what's worth
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: running from, what's worth running toward, who's in your corner,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: what's the next step. And in the health and fitness world,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: oftentimes we focus so much on the achievement of the goal.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: We don't look at this as a lifelong thing.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You're going to have your body your whole life, So
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: this is a lifelong process that you get to go
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: through and get to make the most out of you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's the thing that I'm a lot
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: man or scared of it's either been afraid to look
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: like a beginner on a but then on the flip side,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: it's also scared not to have a mission, to have
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: a focus. Or that's why we like we leave jobs
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: because we don't love any intinue to learn. We don't
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: like being citied. We don't like not progressing or having
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: a challenge. We can't just sit still.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: A lot of men, Uh men, men are an interesting case.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think it actually has a lot more to do
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: with honesty. So that being said, if I'm honest as
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a man, let's say I look at my life and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not satisfied. That's hard, that's a painful realization, Like
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: what are you not satisfied with? I'm not satisfied with
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: what I see when I look in the mirror. I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: not satisfied with my job, I'm not satisfied with my partner,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not satisfied with with.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: How I spend my days. Whatever.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Like, if if men get really honest with themselves about
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: what's bothering them, I mean, get ready, like get ready
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: for some real get ready for some real emotional turmoil.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Because if men are honest about where they're at, there
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: it's it's going to be a difficult process. It's going
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to be a difficult mental emotional process. I think that's
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the primary thing that keeps men from moving forward, is
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to be honest with themselves and then step two, honest
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: with somebody else so that you're not the only person
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: who's thinking through all this stuff that you're not satisfied with,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: because that can be overwhelming. That's extremely overwhelming when when
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you realize you're in a place that you want to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: change but you don't know how to do it. And
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it's also extremely overwhelming to notice that maybe I do
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: know how to do it, but I don't know how
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start, and and those are those are
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: very difficult things. So I think honesty with self and
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: honesty with somebody who's worth trusting with that, I think
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: that that's what primarily keeps men from moving forward. I've
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: found that very few men I know are actually scared.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Once they're honest about being scared, it's not that hard
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to be not scared anymore, or at least to act
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: in the face of what was a courage. Courage is
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: not not being scared. Courage is acting in the face
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: of fear.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what you're meaning. That's I mean,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: is that something that you notice with a lot of guys,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: It's that kind of we're we're actually afraid to admit
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: we need help. That a lot of guys even you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: there's all this acres of information out there, there's amazing podcasts,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: there's great coaches like yourself, but they just go to
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the gym and try to work out to look like
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the guy you say next to them. They don't understand
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: about sports specific workouts, physical preparedness, you know, I'm like
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: just a general breakdown of the different style of workout
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: of building your ligaments, your joints, you know, making yourself physical,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: your body physically prepared to work out. How complicated do
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: we need to get into this? As we go through
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: the vidious stages towards mastrey, towards elite stairs.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: M it gets more complicated the further up the ladder
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you go. For For somebody who's just beginning on that journey,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: it's not that complicated. You got to get conditioned, you know.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Getting conditioned is stop stop eating too much energy, eat
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: more nutrients, move more like it really is that simple,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Like those things are and you might have some injuries
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: that have accumulated, you might have to rehabilitate, or you
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: might have some some obstacles in the way your body functions,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: maybe have shoulder pain or knee pain or something like
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: that that that might complicate that process, right, But but
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the the end necessity goal for you to go from beginner.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It's about the same answer for everybody.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: The further you go.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Through fitness, the more complicated it gets. The further you
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: go up the ladder. The adaptations of exercise, the adaptations
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: of nutrition, the adaptations of rest and recovery, those adaptations
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: can get more and more specific based on the stimulus
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: or stressor so as an example, if I said, if
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I said, hey, you're a beginner and I've been training
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: for a long time, your back workout today can be
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: two exercises. We're going to do a lap pull it
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: down for three sets of ten, and we're going to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: do a cable row for three sets of ten. Remember, right, yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: how much weight out. I don't care if it feels
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: kind of difficult, You're you're great, Like, don't even worry
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Just do it right. And that's the backwork up.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But if you're an elite, and you're taxing the muscles
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: of the back so that your poster stays firm. Maybe
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: you're trying to keep muscles healthy and highly operating for
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: whatever specific thing you're training for. You might have eight
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: different exercises you need to do and two of them
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: have to be together, and you only have thirty seconds
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of rest between these two. And this set is about
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: being heavy, and this set is about being explosive, right,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the workout, you're doing things
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: to tax the muscle in the ecentric phase. And everything
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I just said to a beginner sounds too much because
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: it is. There's no reason that that has to be
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that differentiated for somebody who's just starting to lift weights. Right,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: So the further you go up the ladder, the more
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: complicated things get. And I wouldn't say that men are
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: afraid to ask for help in that sense because they
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: don't want to look like they don't know what they're doing.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I think that that men in general feel as though
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: they should already have it figured out, and so asking
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: for help is somehow weak rather than independent, And nothing
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: could be further from the truth. Like human beings are
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: not very independent. We're actually very. We're actually very We're
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: built on the inside, neurologically speaking, we're built on the
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: inside to be cohesive with each other. And there's an
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: element of me needing, you know, having a responsibility to
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: carry my own burdens. Well, but I'm not going to
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: be able to do that without somebody else's help. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: so that said, when a man comes to me and says,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: they usually say, I've tried everything, and I heard what
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: you had to say. I made a lot of sense,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: so I'm asking for help. I don't like doing that,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: but I'm doing that, Like, where can we go from here?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's almost like they've taken this big giant
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: load off their shoulders and handed it to me, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: they're they're very happy to do so, because, holy crap,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: this is heavier than I thought.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: And well, I have a lot of compassion.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: For that because I'm a man, I'm a i'm a husband,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I'm a business owner. I've I've wrestled with my own
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: obstacles and disease and all sorts of things, and I
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: understand that that it's been individuals in my life who've
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: helped me to overcome those things that allows me to
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: help other people.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Great answer. I mean, because I'm a big fun like
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: out of the kais and approach to the you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the the one percent better every day, And I think
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: that's something that we think if we don't go and
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: do a perfect workout, it's a day wasted, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: even and sometimes it can be just difficult enough to
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: get in the gym, it can be difficult enough to
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: go for a walk with people with the predation, et cetera.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: And I think that sometimes as well, a lot of
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: guys strugg go with is the right to me and
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: say I can't change. I've tried, I've tried to tried,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: and you think, well, have you done X? No, have
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: you tried jiu jitsu? No, have you tried? And you
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: know they've just gone in once failed that's it. They
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: think that means that's their story. They can't change. So
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: what is one percent better? Because you mean you talked
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: earlier about the one percent getting better? If we are
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: being working out or we've had the history and up
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: through the newbie gains, et cetera, what is the effort
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: or what's the thing we need to do to eke
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: out those one percent changes? And what is one percent
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: better look like on a day where everything's going wrong.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You know, your daughter's sick, you're havening, eating correctly, works,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: being a nightmare, et cetera, et cetera. How can we
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: find that in the in the dark places when we
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: need to.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a great question.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So so first, if you're past the new stuff, the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: one percent better usually looks like the things you're scared of. So,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: for instance, I recently wrote and published a book. Before
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I wrote and published a book, I would tell you
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I was not a writer. I had started many books,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: but I'd never finished one. And I have all kinds
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: of reasons. You know, I'm a dad with two kids,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I run my own business, I manage a chronic illness.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I like being married, right yeah, I got to sleep sometime,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: right yeah. And so there's a lot of these things
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: in my life that say a book is a bad idea.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I don't have time for that, right, But in my heart,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to. I knew there was something
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I needed to say, something I wanted to work through,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: something I hoped to help other people when they read it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And so and so, I like this thing bounced around
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: in me for probably three years, and frankly I was
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: and being honest with myself, I wasn't being honest that
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: this really.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Mattered to me.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: And I remember having a conversation with my wife where
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I was angry about something and I was like, I
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: don't understand why I can spend my time and energy
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: doing this but I won't write my damn book right.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And she was like, well, how can I help? Can
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you watch the kids on Thursday? Like can you do
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: that for me? And she did, and I went and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I started writing my book. Well, the thing about a
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: book is you don't write it in a day. Takes time,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: takes energy, takes focus, takes consistency kind of like.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: If only right.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: And so what I did is after I sat and
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I spent time writing and a lot of the things
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: that needed to come out of me so that I
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: could see what the book looked like came out. Took
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: about eight hours. I came home and I showed my
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: wife and I said, this is going to take like
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: every Thursday until it's Can we do that?
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Is it possibleel?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I really feel like I really feel like I need
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: your help with this, right, Remember that support aspect. This
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: is a big time investment, lots of energy, right, something
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I'm asking for help with. But she's like, okay, And
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: so for me, I guarded that time like a junkyard dog.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I missed out on some time with my family. I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: have two boys. My boys ran, my wife ragged on Thursdays,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: you know, but we did our best and we blocked
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that off. And because of all that investment of energy
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and time.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: You better believe.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: At seven in the morning, when I sat down to write,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote, it didn't matter if I had a headache,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter who wanted my attention, my phone was off,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter, it didn't matter what was else was
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: going on because I had committed to that thing that
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: was scary to me.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: But I.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Had everything in my life orchestrated to make sure that
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: that happened, and it was something I knew I needed
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: to do for my one percent. Then week over week
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I did it. And I think I only missed two
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Thursdays in a period of six months, and one was Christmas,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: if I remember right, it was always justify. Yeah, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: let me off on Christmas, right, and and and the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: other one I had a family member in the hospital
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: and so I went and visited them because because that
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: that was a priority.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And that's how the one percent works, right there.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: When when I understand that the things in my life
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that I want to make progress on are aligned with
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: my ultimate purposes being a father, being a husband, my
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: business that i'm running that that helps people like these
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: these things really matter to me. They're part of my
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: part of my mission, part of my journey. Then your
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: your one percent is the stuff that makes you better
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: at all those things at once. And it's not easy,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of scary, and it's going to take
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: some sacrifice, but it's it's one hundred percent worthwhile. And
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: so what I would say kind of to your original
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: question is, once you're past the new phase, your one
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: percent will scare you a bit.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: It's the it's the thing.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: That you you want, you want to say you've done,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: or want to say you've moved toward, or you see
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: as as valuable and useful, but man, you have no
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: idea how it's going to go, and and you're you're
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: probably not gonna be any good at it. Right all
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the all those things come together, and and the way
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: that you you keep yourself accountable to that is don't
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: do it alone, and and put your money where your
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: mouth is. Put an investment in that thing. You might
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: need to spend some money, you might need to spend
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: some time, you might need to sacrifice some energy in
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: other places in your life to pursue that thing.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: But it's it's worthwhile and.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Good to do so, and you won't you won't find
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: yourself lacking motivation. It's it's just more like feeling like
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: there's not quite enough of you and and that requires
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: you to be humble week of a week.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I love this because it's that it's not just how
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: you can break things down, it's how inspirational you are
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: about changeing the passion, the warmth that comes from you
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: as well. But I mean you unfortually you have elder
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: it was Eller's Dundlas disease, Taylor's then yep. Now and
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: you despite that, you do everything that you want, You
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: achieve so much, you help so many people transform. But
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: what did that help you?
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Because you were.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Talking there just now about you know, embracing pain and
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: using it to kind of change and finding you know,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: finding that thing that scares you. Because I will say,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: the priority should be the thing that scares you most
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: on your list to make the biggest impact in your day.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: What did having a condition like that that you have
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: did you'r but also work around, you know, set up
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: your life in a certain way to deal with your
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: own health. But to write you, you know, to get
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: your missions accomplished well, is not taught you about strength,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: about elite performance, about how we can get the most
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: from life no matter whatever's affecting us at that point.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the question.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: It would be impossible to talk about this without for me,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: without looping in faith and the journey that I've been on,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, depend whatever your your.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You believe or whatever your listeners believe.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: These questions become very spiritual questions very quickly because at
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: the root of it, if I had to rephrase your
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: question is.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: What do you do with the things that are painful?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And And that's acknowledging that that life is painful, right,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: that's acknowledging that life is painful. And so from a
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: spiritual perspective, there's a there's there's this belief in Christianity
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: that you have to face suffering, there's no way around it. Right,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: So Jesus he dies on a cross for the sins
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: of the world. That's how the story goes right, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: not only does he die on the cross, he doesn't
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: stay dead.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: But that's not the end of the story.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: In fact, what he actually tells his followers is, if
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: any man wishes to be my disciple, he will deny himself,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: pick up his own cross, and follow me, which is
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: a very amazing statement. What he's saying is if you
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: want to follow me, if you want to walk in
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: my way, if you want to do what I've taught,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: if you want to be one of my guys, so
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to speak, then you're going to deny yourself. That's to say,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: all the things that I want, all the things that
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: keep me comfortable, all the things that I think I need,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: deny yourself. You're saying, Nope, I don't need those things.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want those things. I don't want to stay comfortable.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I push those aside for the moment. Pick up my cross.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: That's a very powerful image because what's the cross. The
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: cross is like in the Roman times, that's the place
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: of suffering, that's where you go to die, That's where
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: you go to hang until you lose your breath. Right,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: pick up your cross and follow me, well, where is
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Christ going? When he says this, He's literally going to
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: go die, That's what he's going to do. And so
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: if I had to interpret that in more of a
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: secular fashion, I would say something like, the suffering that
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: is a part of your life is the answer to
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: going where is most meaningful? Facing the suffering forthrightly, carrying
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: the cross in a fourth right way. It's not an
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: easy thing, and it will require that you deny the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: things that sound nice, pleasant, comfortable, fun even sometimes, But
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: that is the thing that's most meaningful and is the way,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: as Jesus said, that leads to life. Now, there's no
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: way in my brain to separate that from from the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: spiritual language that I had to use to describe it.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: But if I had to tell my own story, what
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: I would say is I have ealers, danlos. My body
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: is in pain regularly. My tendons and ligaments don't function
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: like they're supposed to, like like the average person's tendons
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: and ligaments do. My digestive tract doesn't always function the
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: way it's supposed to. And when I went for a
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: run today, when I started to run, it hurt.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to run It wasn't like, oh, yeah,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: what a beautiful day, let's go for a run. You
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: know anybody I know?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, dude, there's something about that first five minutes, right.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you have a disease or not.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: If you can get past that first five minutes, you're
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: already in. You can't escape. But so I go, I
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: go to run. This is important to me. It's important
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: for my cardio vascular system. It's important for my mental health.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: It's important for my body's ability to burn fat as
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: a fuel source. It's very important that I go for
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: my run. But it doesn't feel good right, and it
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: feels doubly bad in my body. Not injurious. I'm not
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: tearing ligaments to run, but it hurts to strengthen them.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: It hurts to do that. And so what do I do.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I say, I'm gonna run, and then I go do it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: And in the run, the tenons and ligaments start to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: loosen up a little bit. My muscles get the activity
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: they need to stabilize my joints, my cardiovascular system gets
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: put through its paces.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I have a lower risk of heart.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Disease at the end of my run than I did
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of my run, I burn fat walls
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: of fuel source and hey, when I finish, if I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: stuck with it, when I finish, I'm in actually way
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: better mood, mental space. I might still being a little
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: bit of pain, but.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: The pain that I've faced was the way that I improve.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Does that make.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Sense definitely, because I think that's the thing is we
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: all want to do things, but when we actually face
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: the burden from it, it's you realize what your true wants,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: your true desires are at that point. So when you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: are struggling or you're shaking, you're in pain, or you know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: you see somebody like a client kind of I don't
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: know about that. You know you can see the eyes
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: going down, or the motivation drops or whatever. They're kind
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: of outlet of panic or a motivation or whatever.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: It is a.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: How do you get them to find that inner, their faith,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: their pain point that they can focus on to come through.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: How do you inspire somebody like that?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: It's it's a great question. It has a lot to do.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: This is actually something I'll talk about in my book.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: It has a lot to do with what you're fighting
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: for and who you're fighting for and these This is
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: something that i'll lead operators know right, So if I'm
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: if I'm a Navy seal and my comrade is injured
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: in combat, my personal instinct is get the hell out
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: of here so I don't die. But that's not correct.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: That's not what my training has taught me. That's not
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: why I'm on this mission. It's not the kind of
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: shape I'm in. What I do is I pick up
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: my brother, I put him on my shoulder, and either
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: we're getting out together or we're dying together.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: That's how this is going to go right.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: And that that is I know what I'm fighting for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and I know who I'm fighting for. If I know
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: those two things, I will endure just about anything. And
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: that that's true of humans. If I know what I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: fighting for, and if I know who I'm fighting for,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: bring on the pain, man, because you're not going to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: keep me from fighting those two things. So I was
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: working with a lady just yesterday. She and I have
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: worked together for a year. She's in her late sixties.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: She when she and I first started, she was in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: a very very terrible place cardiovascularly speaking. Her doctor told
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: her she was on the edge of a heart attack,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: and so and so when we first started working together,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: she was three hundred and twelve pounds. It hurt her
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: to walk forty yards down the average driveway here in
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the US.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: It hurt her to walk forty yards.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: So when we started working together, she had to understand
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: what she was fighting for.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Why do this at all?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Because you could just sit in a recliner and be
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: comfortable till you die. You could like that, that's an option.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: What's worth fighting for? And then who are you fighting for?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Who is who?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: When you think, okay, why would I endure any of this?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Why would I improve? Why would I try to make
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: more of myself? Why would I get healthy?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Like? Who in my life does that matter to?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: And when you identify those two things, then like, hey,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: this hurts, I'm out of breath. I don't want to continue.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: And I can say, well, your grandkid keeps getting bigger
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: and we're not done yet, just a little further, keep breathing,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: We're almost there. Right, The knowledge of understanding this is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: what I'm fighting for. This is who I'm fighting for.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: When you bring your mind to those things when things
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: are difficult, you'll do what you need to do and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: it won't feel that painful.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Regardless of how painful it actually is.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Is that like a key part of an elite performer?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Do you think that we should all utilize is howving
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: you don't like say the Navy seals, we do it
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: to protect to their country. Where it is somebody like
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: if you say, I'm like an overweight person might be
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: doing it just to be able to pick up their
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: grund kit or to be able to walk without sticks
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is. Is it is that how we
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: can ensure that we focus on working out for ten
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: years rather than ten minutes, we'd keep going day in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: day out. We have we have we find something that
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: we can hold on to in that dark times.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think that's I think at
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when we were talking
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: about being honest, how it's difficult for men to be honest.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: If you ask a man what is your fitness goal,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: he might be like, oh, I got to work on this,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: you know, I gotta lose ten pounds, I gotta I
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: gotta get off my heart medication.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Whatever. That's not honest, Like that's.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: That's the smallest grain of truth in the thing he's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: wanting to accomplish. But if a man says, I don't
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: feel attractive to my wife anymore, or I don't feel
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: equipped to manage my business, and and like my mind's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: all fuzzy and I'm tired all the time. I don't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: feel like my children want to hang out with me.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like getting off the couch.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: These are the things that are honest, right. When a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: man's honest like that, then he understands coming back to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: the pain question, the pain he's already in. And when
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: the pain of staying the same hurts worse than the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: pain of change, then you'll change.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: But but if.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: If you don't, if you're not honest, you don't feel
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: that pain of staying the same, then you won't you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: won't budge. And so that's that's why this this understanding
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: of what's worth fighting for, who's worth fighting for? We
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: feel the pain of understanding what happens when we don't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: fight those battles, and so and so that that's extremely important.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: When a man can be honest about what pain he's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: in right now, not try to cover it up. No
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: no sunshine, rainbows, no flowers and daisies, just the real,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: the real stuff, And he can be honest and feel
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: that the pain of staying the same is worse than
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the pain it's going to take to change. Then when
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: a man understands that, then he will actually move forward.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: I can see why you're so successful. I knew you
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: were going to be good, but it's you just motivate regardless.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Oh you know, it's there's something about how you present
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: it that you just I don't know. We get wrapped up,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: we embraces it, and it feels it honestly feels like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: ten minutes and we've been talking for an over an
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: hour and I haven't got into like half half of
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: the stuff I want to cover, So we've got to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: do around two at some point. But what do you
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: think then, like, if you have somebody listening just now,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: how would you want them to come to you as
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: a kind of to become an elite performer? If they
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: came back to you in a month, we would you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: say to them, I want to have done X y Z.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I want you to have focused on this or have
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: that is your target. How can they start this journey?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: M I will I will bring you back to the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: exercise that I just revealed that I do with all
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: my clients, and I would ask your listener to do this.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: If this is you and you want to make some
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: progress forward, you got to do it. You got to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: say where am I right now? And if I did
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: everything right, where would I be a year from now?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Question two? Like pause the podcast, write it down. The
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: more detailed, the better. Question two. If I do everything wrong,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: where will I be a year from now? And if
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: you don't cry, you're not doing it right. I know
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: that sounds dumb, but it's true. Like if you if
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: you can't paint a picture enough in your mind that's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: painful enough to bring tears, you're gonna you're gonna need
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: to work at that. You might need to go fast
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: in the woods for like a day or two or
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: three before you get down to the core of who
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you are and what matters to you. But those two things,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: and then you say, Okay, who's in my corner?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Be honest?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: If you got nobody in your corner, be honest, You've
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: got to fix it. You can't do this without somebody
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: in your corner. You're not going to do this without
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: without a coach. What a coach actually is is somebody
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: who can correct you without causing resentment.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: That's what a coach is if you.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Have people in your life who are like, hey, you're
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: doing it wrong, do this, and you hate them, they're
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: not coaching you. You're like, that's a jerk. You don't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: like jerks. You need a coach. But similarly, somebody who's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: celebrating you. Far too many men don't have somebody in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: their corner celebrating their wins and accomplishments and encouraging their
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: way forward, wanting to see the best in them. Right,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: So that's that, And then finally is that one percent.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: So we know where we're going, we know what we're
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: running from, we know who's got our back, and we
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: know what we actually need to do tomorrow today and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: to do consistently. And if you do those four things,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: if you can hash those out and actually move forward,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: and then in the month you've gotten somewhere, it'd be
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: really cool to do that. And if in a month
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: you haven't gotten somewhere, then you didn't address point three.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: You still have nobody in your corner because a good
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: coach won't let you do that.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: A good coach will kick you in the butt and say, hey,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: what the heck, man, this is not this is not
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: what we said we're going to do we need to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: change this one percent because you're being too ambitious and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: you didn't get it done right. And so so that's
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: that's what I would say.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: I love that because I think that they say that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: Amon only gets the first flowers they'll ever get is
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: at their funeral. The only kind words will ever heat
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: is at the eulogy at their funeral. And it's skaty
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: that a lot of guys do not have somebody. And
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: that's why I'm so glad that there is coach. He's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: like you the other programs, there's things we can find
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: and listen to. Podcastly this where we can listen to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: you know, your explanations and kind of start making that
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: change in their lives that they maybe have been in
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: abusive situation, they've had no maybe not support of patents.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: And I think this is why I love speaking to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: people at yourselves, because people can't help but change listening
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: to your great advice. So what is but what point
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: do we looking goo thoughts? Is changing? This is the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: time to pivot. This is the time to change. Is
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: it down to the coach or what kind of data
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: are we meaging? Are we looking for feedback emotionally, are
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  Speaker 4: we looking physically? How do we know we're doing well
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  Speaker 4: in this journey?
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  Speaker 2: It's really it comes back to those first two questions.
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  Speaker 2: Am I closer to where I said I wanted to be?
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  Speaker 2: And closer might be different for you, Like if you said, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if I did everything right a year from now, I
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  Speaker 2: look in the mirror and I think, hey, that guy's
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  Speaker 2: in great shape, then you might want to be measuring
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  Speaker 2: body composition.
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  Speaker 3: That would be a good understanding.
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  Speaker 2: I'm losing fat mass, I'm gaining muscle mass, my midsection
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  Speaker 2: is getting smaller, my clothes are fitting better, right, that
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  Speaker 2: would give me feedback? Or or I want to be
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  Speaker 2: able to play more often with my kids. Right, how
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  Speaker 2: do I know that I'm actually moving forward in that
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  Speaker 2: process or journey? Well, I've got a scheduled date with
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  Speaker 2: my son on Thursday to play soccer, right, Right, That's
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  Speaker 2: that's how I know I'm moving forward and I can
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  Speaker 2: play soccer and I'm not out of breath while we
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  Speaker 2: do it. You know, Like that that means that means
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  Speaker 2: I'm moving forward. And similarly, am I further away from
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  Speaker 2: that thing I'm running from?
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  Speaker 3: Right? For me?
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  Speaker 2: Hell, at one point in time looked like I'm on
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  Speaker 2: twelve different medications, I'm hooked on pain pills, and I
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  Speaker 2: can't get off the couch to play with my child.
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  Speaker 3: Like that was?
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  Speaker 2: That was the hell I was running from, between mental
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  Speaker 2: illness and my family, between the genetic disorder I wrestle with,
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  Speaker 2: between the pain I was in.
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  Speaker 3: Like I saw where I was.
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  Speaker 2: Headed and I didn't want to be there, right and so,
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  Speaker 2: so am I further from that?
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  Speaker 3: Am I in less pain? Am I?
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  Speaker 2: Am I out and about? I don't even care if
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy about it? At least I'm not on the
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  Speaker 2: stupid couch?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Am I off the medications? Like it? Am I moving
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  Speaker 3: in that direction?
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  Speaker 2: And so and so that that really is understanding where
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  Speaker 2: you want to go and what you're leaving. You can
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  Speaker 2: you can have some measures that help you understand if
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  Speaker 2: you're moving forward. And again, a good coach can help
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  Speaker 2: you do that. A good coach can say, uh, these
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  Speaker 2: are the measures we're going to be looking at to
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  Speaker 2: see if we're making progress, and if we're not, something
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  Speaker 2: needs to change, Something needs to change about our approach.
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  Speaker 4: So it's all the definition of elite performance for each
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  Speaker 4: of us is finding that point that we've gone to
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  Speaker 4: where we've gone through our own hell to the point
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  Speaker 4: of where we want to be.
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  Speaker 3: You got it.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and that's that's why I'm an exercise
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: scientist and a faith based health coach. Exer science teaches
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  Speaker 2: us how to get the most out of ourselves, but
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: faith teaches us why we care. Faith is the thing
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  Speaker 2: that that that tells us why we're even doing it
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  Speaker 2: any of this stuff. Right, So, yes, that's exactly right beautifully.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm in an overtime for time, but We've got
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  Speaker 4: to round to at some point soon. But for those listening,
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  Speaker 4: what would you want people to remember about change, transformation,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: pain points? Just you know that they're not stuck of
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: where they are now, But how would you want people
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  Speaker 4: to use this conversation going forward to start changing their lives.
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  Speaker 2: First, I want to say you're a great interviewer and
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  Speaker 2: I'm totally down for a round two.
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  Speaker 3: This was a lot of fun. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: And also you mentioned the whole guys don't get flowers things.
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  Speaker 2: You have been very encouraging this entire episode, so thank
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: you for that. That said to the listener who's made
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: it to this point in the podcast because our society
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: has very short attention spans. But if you if you've
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: been listening for this whole podcast, I need to stop
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: everything you're doing for just a second, because something happened
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: in your brain and something happened in your heart while
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: you were listening. It might have been something I said,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: it might have been something my brother said. But you
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: pictured a better version of you. You did, and so
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: if that picture came out for you and you can
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  Speaker 2: stop what you're doing for a second, I need you
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  Speaker 2: to write it down. I need you to write what
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  Speaker 2: you saw. Actually, you need to make it concrete. Make
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: it something you can see, make it something you can read,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: something you can feel.
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  Speaker 3: Write it down what you saw.
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  Speaker 2: You saw yourself being more active, You saw yourself eating
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  Speaker 2: less donuts, You saw yourself going to bed a little earlier.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: You saw yourself playing less crappy video games. I don't
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: know whatever you saw. You saw yourself having an argument
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: with your spouse. That just needs to happen, even though
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: you haven't been honest in the past, but it needs
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: to happen now. Whatever it is, write it down, because
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: once you write it down, once you make it concrete,
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  Speaker 2: once you take it from here and put it out there,
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  Speaker 2: You're way more likely to start making a shift. And
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  Speaker 2: that would be what I would encourage if you could
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  Speaker 2: take that away. If you can take something that was
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: inside of you from this podcast and put it outside
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  Speaker 2: of you.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like drawing a line in the sand.
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  Speaker 4: That is hard because I could actually find myself doing
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  Speaker 4: that and a few of your answers, I was stopping
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  Speaker 4: and actually applying it in my head, going oh, I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: meant to ask another question, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's You've got this way of just opening up,
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  Speaker 4: removing the obstacle and actually sort of going as a friend,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: you know, not as a coach, but just to kind
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: of pulling it out of us and getting us to
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  Speaker 4: start that transformation, to sow the seeds of change. How
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  Speaker 4: can we follow you, you know, until we can do
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: a round two? And how because there's so many rabbit
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: holes I've tria avoid going down. But sure for the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: things before we want to buy the book for, we
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: want to find out more, We want to contact you
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: and ask to train with you, and all these sorts
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: of things. How can we get in touch and follow
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: this journey, this amazing life that you're on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's three ways.
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  Speaker 2: If you're more of a hey, I just want to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: check out what Alex is up to, you can check
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: out our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash, faithful Fitness
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Org RG and you'll find interviews, you'll find conversations I've had,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: You'll find a library of exercises and whatnot, and that's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: a great place to connect. The second is is, hey,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just interested in working with you from a coaching perspective.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Us at Everyday Spy we have a portal for that,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: and I believe my team has sent that link to you,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: so we'll have that in the show notes. To get
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• 1:17:44
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• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: we'll do a complete health history, and then we're moving forward.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: We've got places to go, and so that's a very
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: one on one thing. And then finally, there is an
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: app community where individuals who are moving in this journey
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: are congregating and you can find that at faithfulfitness dot Co.
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