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Micah Parsons trade demands proves Jerry Jones's decline. Noah Lyles sparks controversy, Top 25 Athletes 10-6 | 8.04 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: a hater. We are going to continue our list of
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  Speaker 1: the top 25 athletes of the last 25 years. 10
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  Speaker 1: through 6 are this episode. We're coming down the home stretch. Also,
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about somebody y'all seem to hate, but
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of winning me over. First, we talked on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: Dominique and I, about the Michael Parsons situation and just
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  Speaker 1: how simple and obvious it is that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to pay him. I think the analogy that Dominique
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  Speaker 1: made that was perfect is there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: cars that you might be able to haggle and get
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  Speaker 1: a deal on, but a Lamborghini is not one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And Michael Parsons is a Lamborghini. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: agree that he is a Lamborghini. I believe since Dominique
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  Speaker 1: and I recorded that podcast, Michael Parsons requested a trade.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some people refer to it as a trade demand. Now,
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  Speaker 1: only basketball players can demand trades. Football players just ask for. OK,
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  Speaker 1: that's all they can really do. And he asked for
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  Speaker 1: a trade. And I don't know too much about this place. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even fully assured that this place exists. But
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  Speaker 1: I reckon that when people first get to hell, they
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  Speaker 1: ask for ice water all the time before people tell
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  Speaker 1: them that the bar is closed. They ain't got that
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  Speaker 1: down there, right? It's not happening. He can ask for
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  Speaker 1: this trade all he wants. He will be a Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Cowboy for the next three years unless he's really willing
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  Speaker 1: to pass up some checks. And as far as I
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  Speaker 1: can recall, only two people have actual factual really been
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  Speaker 1: willing to pass up checks in similar situations. One of
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  Speaker 1: them is Sean Gilbert. And that was 30 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: The other one is Le'Veon Bell. And if you follow
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  Speaker 1: him on Twitter, it's clear that boy dumb as a
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  Speaker 1: sack of hammers. Now, I have generally thought that the
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  Speaker 1: idea of sitting out and missing those checks is really
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  Speaker 1: not the worst idea in the world because you're missing checks,
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  Speaker 1: but you're also missing like hits and and damage to
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  Speaker 1: your body. But them boys love playing football, man. They
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  Speaker 1: want to get out there and play football. I assure
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  Speaker 1: you that when Michael Parsons is at these practices that
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  Speaker 1: he goes to because he kind of got to, he
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  Speaker 1: wants to play. He wants to get out there. And so, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you want to be traded. Jerry's not trading you. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just get this out of the way right now. Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Jones is not trading you, period. But again, worst he
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  Speaker 1: could do is say no. Doesn't really hurt you to ask.
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  Speaker 1: But that's where we've gotten in this. Now, we also learn,
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  Speaker 1: I think, some interesting things. And I think we may
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  Speaker 1: have known this before we had Dominique on the last time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember how in depth we talked about this,
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  Speaker 1: but Jerry Jones says that he often negotiates deals directly
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  Speaker 1: with players without their agents there. And what seems to
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  Speaker 1: be a sticking point in this negotiation is that Jerry
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  Speaker 1: felt like he had a deal. And then David Mulgetta
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  Speaker 1: got involved, Michael Parsons agent. And now all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he ain't got no deal. And Jerry refuses to
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  Speaker 1: move off of the previous deal. Now, I have been
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  Speaker 1: in a very similar situation where you felt like, for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason, a deal was predicated on some agreed upon fact,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be, and then something happens and
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  Speaker 1: now you guys have a disagreement about whether that fact
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  Speaker 1: was truly agreed upon and now it gets tense, right?
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  Speaker 1: I know how that goes. I also know that Jerry
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  Speaker 1: know that was some snake shit. And the reason I
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  Speaker 1: know that Jerry knows that's some snake shit is that
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  Speaker 1: Jerry knows what an agent is for. Or if nothing else,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry knows that even if he negotiates this deal directly
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  Speaker 1: with the player, the player is still going to have
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  Speaker 1: to pay the agent a 3%. Right? He has an
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  Speaker 1: agent for a reason. And that reason is very simple,
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you. That's what he's there for. It
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  Speaker 1: actually reminded me of something, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: anybody saw this a few weeks ago, maybe a few
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  Speaker 1: months ago. But Cameron and Chad Johnson had some sort
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  Speaker 1: of beef online. It didn't seem to be some sort
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  Speaker 1: of major beef, but it was something about some money
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And Cam was making a point about how
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  Speaker 1: he tried to cut some deal with Chad and Chad
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  Speaker 1: told him either talk to my agent or I got
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  Speaker 1: to talk to my agent. And Cam's thing was, I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's just how y'all do over there. Like I
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  Speaker 1: handle deals myself. I guess you football players, y'all got
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  Speaker 1: to run it through other people, which He wasn't fully
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  Speaker 1: offering his shade, but certainly partially, right? Oh, you can't
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  Speaker 1: handle your own business. But the truth is, yes, they
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  Speaker 1: do go get their agents. That is what they do.
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  Speaker 1: Athlete game is a little bit different in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that somebody like Cam came up getting money his own ways,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of ways, right? He's the one that's going
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  Speaker 1: to stand in front of you and negotiate the deal
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  Speaker 1: because in truth with rap, especially at the era in
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  Speaker 1: which he came up, yeah, there were agents to get
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  Speaker 1: the job done, but a lot of the cats that
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  Speaker 1: was doing it was just street cats, right? There was
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  Speaker 1: no reason to believe that you necessarily needed to get
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  Speaker 1: somebody with this like ascribed level of expertise. I've told
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  Speaker 1: you guys this all the time about being an agent, right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying everybody can be an agent, but anybody
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  Speaker 1: can be an agent. As long as you got the stomach, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's 90% of the job, maybe. It's just the stomach
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  Speaker 1: to stand there and hold out for the money that
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  Speaker 1: you want and an innate sense of timing and leverage.
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  Speaker 1: You can do that. But football world is different in
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  Speaker 1: the sense that These cats got people like rap don't
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  Speaker 1: have coaches. I think it's the best way to put it, right?
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  Speaker 1: There's not a culture of somebody like being there as
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  Speaker 1: an advisor or whatever capacity to help guide you and
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  Speaker 1: get you through the stuff and to tell you, let
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  Speaker 1: me take care of this. All you got to do
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  Speaker 1: is play ball. You know, there are levels of the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment game where that's like that, but the rap, especially
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  Speaker 1: that era of the rap gang, not quite so much, right? Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I say that to say, In that world, yes, Cameron.
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  Speaker 1: You get your agent and the agent does the stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it goes over there. Jerry knows that's how
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  Speaker 1: it goes over there. Any attempt to try to negotiate
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  Speaker 1: a deal without an agent there is an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: save some money. It's an attempt to get over. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the NFL need a, what they call it, I see
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  Speaker 1: it on Law & Order all the time, Miranda.
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  Speaker 2: Miranda.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be like, well, look, You want us
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  Speaker 1: to get your agent? They ain't even got to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But you got to be able to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to call my, I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to call an agent. And if you ain't even
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  Speaker 1: got an agent, one is provided to you free of charge, right?
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  Speaker 1: They need an NFL constitution. Now, granted, this wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: the first, this may be Amendment 38 on this constitution
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  Speaker 1: that would be necessary to protect these boys. But maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's what they need. I don't know. But Jerry knew
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  Speaker 1: he was on some bullshit when he did that. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way around that. He fully understands it. And the
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  Speaker 1: idea that you're going to try to stand on it
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  Speaker 1: What it does is make you seem like an unserious person.
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  Speaker 1: And once it gets to the place where you got C.D.
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  Speaker 1: Lamb sending tweets out saying the same old, same old.
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  Speaker 1: You had Demarcus Lawrence leaving the Cowboys talking about, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: ain't nobody going to win no Super Bowl over here.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing when those of us on the outside
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  Speaker 1: talk about how unserious you are. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not one of those people, generally speaking. I actually
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  Speaker 1: think that throughout these 30 years since they won a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Jerry has largely gotten a bad rap, right?
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  Speaker 1: His ego has gotten in the way of things. But like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, and this is outside of the 30 years.
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  Speaker 1: If Jerry didn't run Jimmy Johnson off, Jimmy Johnson was
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  Speaker 1: going to have to go, right? He was burning out.
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  Speaker 1: He was burning them out. And I would like to
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  Speaker 1: make the point that it's not like Jimmy Johnson went
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  Speaker 1: to the Dolphins and won four Super Bowls. Just throwing
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  Speaker 1: it out there, right? I think Jerry got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a bad rap, though he was absolutely complicit
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  Speaker 1: in the way that it played out. I think they've
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  Speaker 1: had some bad luck at points, but I think they've
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  Speaker 1: overall put together very strong rosters. They've been in an
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  Speaker 1: interesting space for the last, wow, it's almost 20 years now,
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  Speaker 1: of having very good but flawed quarterbacks. that had some
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  Speaker 1: ceiling issues that could make it like, hey, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can get there with that guy. But
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  Speaker 1: they've also had very good quarterbacks, one of whom was
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  Speaker 1: undrafted and the other one was drafted in the fourth round.
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  Speaker 1: Like they've done things correctly. They've had great players in
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  Speaker 1: this stretch. They've had great rosters in this stretch. They
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  Speaker 1: got Micah Parsons with the number 12 pick. Other people
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity to get that dude. Okay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole list of these things that we could
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  Speaker 1: go through as it relates to him. But now you're
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  Speaker 1: looking like a clown, not just a person who likes
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  Speaker 1: attention because we notice about Jerry that he likes the attention.
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  Speaker 1: And if any of us had to guess, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to sign Michael Parsons to a really big deal right
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  Speaker 1: before training camp because in part, Jerry likes the attention.
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  Speaker 1: But this looks like clown behavior and your players think
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  Speaker 1: it looks like clown behavior. And some players who have
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  Speaker 1: been like venerated veterans for you are looking at your
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  Speaker 1: operation and saying, hey, man, I need to get out
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  Speaker 1: of here because I ain't a loser. And this looks
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  Speaker 1: like a losing operation. That's what you're putting together. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you have. And to me, that is fundamentally what
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  Speaker 1: it came down to in this situation. Right? You look
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  Speaker 1: like a loser right now. And you can't do this
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  Speaker 1: with this player. You can kind of do it with C.D. Lamb.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: He's probably your top three or four receiver in the league.
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  Speaker 1: But you can kind of do it with him. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he really went clown with Dak. Or it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he went clown with Dak. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason is very simple. Because Dak bought that bread. Now, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: you're a Saints fan, not a Cowboys fan, right? Correct.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you Louisiana boys can go in either direction.
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  Speaker 2: It's right around I-10 is the cutoff point.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and Dak, I-10, right? He's of your world also,
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  Speaker 1: but we know Dak about getting every single one of
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  Speaker 1: them down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, every single dollar.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody fully gets the leverage and timing.
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  Speaker 1: Dak is, what if Kirk Cousins was just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, like, You see these quarterback deals, like
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  Speaker 2: you're only the highest paid quarterback for only, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a month, sometimes two. Dak's been the highest paid quarterback
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  Speaker 2: for a whole year.
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  Speaker 1: Dak has... Dak has what Kirk Cousins had, though, the
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  Speaker 1: willingness to take a short deal to get that money. Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And he's done this at every time. But when it
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  Speaker 1: goes long with Dak on our side, we are absolutely saying, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: you might as well just go ahead and take care
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  Speaker 1: of this. But you can make an argument on Jerry's side.
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  Speaker 1: But that drives a hard bargain. Right. Right. It's like, oh, OK, cool.
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  Speaker 1: I can halfway get it. We don't even think that's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily what's happening here in large part because Michael Parsons
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  Speaker 1: is willing to hear him out.
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  Speaker 2: It was apparently thought he was having conversations in March. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And now we're in August.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Let me tell you who would have had word
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  Speaker 1: the first with Jerry in March under those same circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott.
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  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Yeah. No way in the world. Hey, Dak,
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  Speaker 1: can you come to the office for a second? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we can come talk at my agent's office. Yeah. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think? How'd you like
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  Speaker 1: to do that? Ain't nobody talking to you. What are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? And I bet you Jerry tried it once.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just once.
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  Speaker 1: And they realize, no, no, no, no, no. This ain't
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  Speaker 1: going to happen here. And so, look, everything anybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to say about the Cowboys, yeah, yeah, I get you.
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  Speaker 1: All of that seems fair. Look, you know why I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: The Cowboys are great for business. I'm telling you, this
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  Speaker 1: one may wind up being a bit of an inflection point.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it last show, but now Jerry's starting
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  Speaker 1: to seem old. Now he's starting to seem ridiculous inside
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  Speaker 1: his own house. That, no, no, no, baby, you can't,
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  Speaker 1: you can't have that. Okay, so I have often discussed
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  Speaker 1: in my own life, I've probably talked about it a
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  Speaker 1: couple times here, I don't know. It is amazing that
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  Speaker 1: we only care about track and field once every four
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  Speaker 1: years because we all like track and field. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if this is still the case. I imagine
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  Speaker 1: it is. Track and field is like the sport that
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  Speaker 1: has the highest participation rate in schools, for example. It
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  Speaker 1: is the easiest thing for you to understand. Very often,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't require very much of you because the races
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  Speaker 1: ain't necessarily that long. All of that. But we typically
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  Speaker 1: only pay attention to track and field during the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I wound up watching a
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  Speaker 1: track and field race yesterday. It was the 200 meters,
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  Speaker 1: not even the 100 meters. And hold on, Ron. I
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  Speaker 1: got to look up what race it was. Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: was the US track championships. I bet my buddy Gabe
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  Speaker 1: was there. He goes to all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, up in Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, that is easy.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, look, man.
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  Speaker 1: Gabe's like, why not? Yeah, why not? It's right down
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  Speaker 1: the street. Two things for Gabe. There's a why not
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  Speaker 1: factor and it's outside factor. Yeah. Gabe is outdoorsy, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I love that guy. Anyway, I'm sure Gabe was there.
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  Speaker 1: I need to hit him up and find out what
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  Speaker 1: the vibes were. But if you didn't see it, it's
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  Speaker 1: this dude named Kenny Bednarik. And goodness gracious, it's B-E-D-N-A-R-E-K
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  Speaker 1: and I wish it was B-E-D-N-A-R-I-K so I could come
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  Speaker 1: up with somehow, some way that he was related to
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Bednarik. If there was a world in which somehow
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  Speaker 1: he and Chuck Bednarik were related, good gracious, I would
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  Speaker 1: love to know what it was, especially if he was
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit more light-skinned than wavy. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? You get it? Anyway, they were running
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  Speaker 1: the 200 and From what my track friends tell me,
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  Speaker 1: a couple things here. One, this Bednarik dude had won
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  Speaker 1: every race this year. We'll get to two in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: but he had won every 200 that he had run
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  Speaker 1: this year, and he's running against Noah Lyles, and they
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  Speaker 1: get off the blocks. Bednarik is up, and then Noah
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  Speaker 1: Lyles walked that boy down, got to the finish line,
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  Speaker 1: stared him down, then ran into his lane a bit,
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  Speaker 1: and Ben Eric pushed him, and then Ben Eric came
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  Speaker 1: up and tried to dap him up, at which point
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  Speaker 1: Noah Lyles told him that he expected an apology. It
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  Speaker 1: is at this point that everybody does what they do
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  Speaker 1: with Noah Lyles, which is be mad at him. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: I understand fully that why it is that you react
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  Speaker 1: that way. But I got to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting to become a Noah Lyles fan. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason I'm starting to become a Noah Lyles fan is
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  Speaker 1: not because he's my kind of guy. Because hell no.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all. What are you talking about? I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine hanging out with somebody like him. No chance. However,
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  Speaker 1: me and my buddy Rick Got something in common. We
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  Speaker 1: love nothing more than watching people be irrationally angry.
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  Speaker 2: And people are irrationally angry at Noah Wiles.
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  Speaker 1: Every time he does anything, he be having y'all hot.
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  Speaker 2: He's just a habitual line stepper.
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  Speaker 1: He's a habitual line stepper. um but he's a heel
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  Speaker 1: yeah and the game needs more heels every game needs
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  Speaker 1: more heels i said this about dylan brooks back in
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  Speaker 1: the day i don't like dylan brooks but i'm so
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  Speaker 1: glad we got him we gotta have a real live
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  Speaker 1: heel like marcus smart could have been the heel but
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  Speaker 1: he never played into it enough he just did shit
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  Speaker 1: like dye his hair green you know what i'm saying was.
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  Speaker 2: A good heel until he started you know choking everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and also have to admit that like How I
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  Speaker 1: feel about the heel, like Duke basketball is a heel
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  Speaker 1: in ways. But I don't like Duke basketball for being heel,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm one of the people that's mad. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like I admit that my appreciation for
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  Speaker 1: the heel has to do with whether or not the
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  Speaker 1: heel makes me mad. Dylan Brooks didn't make me mad.
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  Speaker 1: He's just not my type, right? Noah Lyles does not
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  Speaker 1: make me mad. So I watch how mad everybody gets
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  Speaker 1: with him. And in every case, everybody assumes that he
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  Speaker 1: is in the wrong. And in this case, I disagree.
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  Speaker 1: I am fully on his side with this. And that
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  Speaker 1: is because of thing number two that ties to the
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  Speaker 1: thing number one that I brought up before. So apparently. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about this, but apparently
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: there was some Twitter account track something and it was
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: dishing a bunch of gossip about different people in the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: track world.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I did not see that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And it had a lot of information about Noah Lyles
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and his girlfriend stayed trashing him. And then at some point,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know the internet, right? You know how they be getting,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: how they be sleuthing, right? People figured out that the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: people running that account were Ben Narek and his girlfriend.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. You find out that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: this man been dogging you from a burner. Yeah. You
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and your fiance from a burner. You get out there
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: at the championships where burner boy hasn't.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Lost all year.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: He gets ahead. You walk his ass down and you
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: don't get to stare at him? What? You kidding me?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I thought this was America.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. So now he stares at him and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, he got to push him. Well, he
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: ran into his lane. You don't get to run into
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: his lane? And then on top of that, you're trying
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to tell me that after this happens and after he
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: runs into his lane and Buddy pushes him, the dude
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that created burner accounts to dog you and your queen,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: among others, others then tries to walk up on you
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and dap you up and then when is asked after
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the race what was what was noah talking about when
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he said about an apology and y'all want to answer
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: for it and y'all are on the side of the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Burner boy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Who raised y'all? What are you talking about? No, no, no, no, no.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Even if you don't like Noah Lyles, you got to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: admit that was pretty gangster on his part. He went
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: out there and got what we call it a small
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: measure of justice. He did that. But baby, y'all wrong. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And I get it. I get it. Y'all just don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like that boy. I understand why y'all just don't like him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I watched that, the sprint joint, him and his mama.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: A little too close. You know what I mean? But
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you got to remember, he had like real bad asthma.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, no allow, they put that boy
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in homeschool. You know, this is all within the realm of,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, homeschool possibilities. right? It's right there. This is
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: what it could be. But no, I got to say,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the madder y'all get, the more I'm going to have
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to ride with Big Dog, man, because when that dude
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: pushed him, pushed him because he didn't punch him. When
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: he pushed him, that was so funny. Also funny, the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: idea of somebody of Noah Lyle's personality type staring you down.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Man, I have to.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Say, I'm going to throw this out here right fast.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: In spite of how I may enjoy that Noah Lyles
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: be making y'all mad, he do in fact be making
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: y'all mad. And I am going to say to Noah Lyles, hey, hey,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: little homie, one of them will punch you in the face.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: In fact, one of them wakes up every day hoping
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that the opportunity comes so they can just finally punch
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you in the face. Just keep that in mind. And
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: what would be more funny than finding out that Noah
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Lyles got hands? All right, Ryan. The time everybody's been
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: waiting on, 10 through six in our list of top
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: 25 athletes of the last 25 years for this year.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: 2025 right so just to run it down for people
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: every athlete on this list is under 25 at the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: january 1st year 2000 that was a qualification they are
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: all north americans um and i think that pretty much
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: covers the ones the big ones that people need.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That's basically yeah that's basically the only rules.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Okay now we will uh let you guys know who
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: we have already um Listed so far. We've already taken
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: down on the list. Actually, I don't think I have
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that list in front of me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: All right. Number 25, Randy Moss. Number 24, Cam Newton.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Number 23, Albert Pujols. Number 22, Ray Lewis. Number 21,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan. Number 20, wild cards. You can put whoever
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you want there. Number 19, Katie Ledecky. Number 18, Mike Trout.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Number 17, Lamar Jackson. Number 16, Aaron Rodgers. Number 15,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. Number 14, Peyton Manning. 13, Kevin Durant. 12,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. 11, Steph Curry. And now we are to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: our top 10.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now, I am going to tell you this about
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: this top 10. It is at the point of this
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: top 10 that we can stop asking the question, are
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: we sure you're better than Tim Duncan? I think everybody
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: in the top 10 is not only better than Tim Duncan,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: but everybody in the top 10 has a legitimate claim
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: within their sport to being the greatest player of all time.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I could say that about anybody
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that was below these guys on the list. Everybody that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: up here higher can't say not just the greatest at
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: their position, but can say that they are the greatest
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: player of all time. We will start with number 10.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Now, Ryan, I think the rest of the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: list may get us to, are you sure he's better
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes place? But we value peak over here
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: more than longevity. Not that longevity doesn't matter at all,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: but we value peak here more than longevity. And he's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the best quarterback that I have ever seen. At his best,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I have never seen a quarterback who was this good.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: We had a similar discussion about Aaron Rodgers. No, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: take the best of Mahomes over the best of Aaron Rodgers.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: The criticism of Aaron Rodgers being risk aversion. Right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, not to go full meta here,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but with Patrick Holmes, we have a demonstrated clutch gene.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: We do that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: We cannot say the same with Aaron Rodgers.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. What's amazing about Aaron Rodgers is that he
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: seems primarily concerned with not making mistakes, but could still
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: make high end plays. But there's a long stretch of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: his career where they were. He wouldn't win in no
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: games down by 10 points or more because of the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: level of risk aversion. Right. It's an irony. Right. Because
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it's a similar criticism of the guy who was taken
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: number one overall the same year that Aaron Rodgers went
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: 24 or 25, which is Alex Smith. Yeah, with tight
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: end Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I'm just going to not make
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a mistake. That's what I'm going to do. Mahomes, three
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs, and that is in,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: as a starter, 18, 19, 20, seven years. Yep. Seven years.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And been to two more.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Never lost. Well, hold on. Has only played, what is it,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: two road playoff games in this whole time? Played two.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Has only lost two playoff games prior to the Super Bowl.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Both in the AFC title game.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Both in the AFC title game. Has lost in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but I still contend. And I don't care
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: what anybody says. And this is not what them kids
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: try to call it. Glazing. That game against Tampa Bay
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is the wildest. I've never. That's the first one on
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: 11 NFL game that I have ever seen. And it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: had some of the most incredible individual plays ever, ever. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: We have already seen Mahomes at that place where you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: put up the giant numbers, the Dan Marino 1984 type numbers.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: We also seen him be at the place where it's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, I just got to do what it
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: takes to get it done. Just keep moving these chains. OK, cool.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to do that. We've seen him do it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think we feel like we've seen him do it
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: with great offensive talent. We've seen him do it without
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: great offensive talent. We have not seen him do it with.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: A team that was great on offense and great on defense.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: For example, we lose sight of how good the 49ers
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: with Joe Montana were on defense. We have seen some
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Patriots teams. The Patriots teams are kind of like that, too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Great on offense, maybe great and great on defense. At
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the same time, not quite so much. But you still
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: felt like you had Bill Belichick over there, right? We
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: don't know where this story is going to end with Mahomes,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but they just came off a really disappointing 15-win season.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Think about what I just said here. They came off
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a really disappointing 15-win season, and they got better in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the offseason. Now, I'm sure there's going to be a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: point at which Rasheed Rice has got to sit for
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a stretch or whatever, but... The idea that Mahomes catches
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Super Bowl wins is not off the table.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It is also fair to say it's a somewhat crazy thought.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Like the thing to remember by and large, with Tom
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Brady maybe being the exception, very rarely has anybody won
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: their last Super Bowl, their last NBA championship, their last major,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and people assume that that was the last one. That's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not really how it works, right? One day you just
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: look back and you're like, damn, that was the last one.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Because why would you think it? They just won it now.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Why couldn't they win it again or whatever? Seven would
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: be a lot for him to get to. But we
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: don't have the why not answer. Yeah, he's there now.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: It just it becomes a matter of how well the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Chiefs can keep this up and whether they're going to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: make the decision to operate on the premise of we
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes, let's fortify the defense and let's just
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: ask him to get the rest done. I think maybe
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the most underrated part of this is he is doing
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: this in a golden age of young quarterbacking. Okay? They're
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: all in his conference and they're all basically the same age.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Not exactly the same age, but his first year as
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a starter is the same as Josh Allen. It's the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: same as Lamar Jackson. If you want to extend it
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: just a little bit farther, it's the same year as
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. He was in the same draft with, I mean,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he's not good anymore, but Deshaun Watson, he'll nasty ass
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is pretty good there for a little stretch. Like this
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: isn't a downtime. Joe Burrow comes in as a starter
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: two years after he did. This isn't, these aren't slow times, right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He's not the one guy while this is going down. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: He's that dude. And I've seen someone make a point.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was. It was on Twitter,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: but it was very interesting. But if you look back
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: at the 1980s and the late 70s, the AFC had
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. But then the 80s, you saw the NFC
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: became dominant because the way they got things done was
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: running the ball and with defense that was how it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: went um you see something very similar now happening with
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the nfc also um you think about uh the eagles
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: um my detroit lions america's team for example they running
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the ball like that's how they're getting it done while
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the other conference has those quarterbacks quarterbacks cost a little
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: bit more money you can fortify more on the other
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: side of the ball and then you see who wins
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: in a super bowl when it comes down to it
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But Mahomes is dictating a world in which in the AFC,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you got to have a quarterback. You don't feel like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you can consider going up there and dealing with those
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: guys if you don't have the quarterback. That's right. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to feel that way. He is like I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: trying to think of who the analog. It's a I
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: have been comparing him to Michael Jordan for a very
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: long time. Right. But he's a Jordan analog in the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: sense that you could feel like you got everything going
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: for you. You got to go over there and you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: see him. Right? And the teams that have beaten the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Chiefs in the Super Bowl with Mahomes as their quarterback were, again,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that Tampa team where I... I'll say it again. They
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: put that... What do they call it? A slate. They
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: put that slate up on the TV and it had
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Mike Remmers at left tackle and I was like, ooh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I have judged incorrectly on who's going to win this game.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And then the Eagles who just... We're so much better
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: at every position, right? So it's not a situation where
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: we got Mahomes, nothing else matters. But picking against him
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: still does not at all. No, I picked against Tom
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Brady many times. I ain't never felt like I thought
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that picking against this guy was going to be a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: good idea. Now, part of that is because I watch
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of football with Nick and I don't necessarily
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: want to go home after I've already, you know, walked
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: 20 blocks to get there. You know what I'm saying?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: But he's that guy. He's that one. And we saw
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it very, very, very early. He is the rare example
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. where you see it early, and there
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: really hasn't been the drop-off. There kind of has, right?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Like the last couple of years, he's not putting up
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the video game numbers in the ways that his peers have, right?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And quarterback play kind of goes up and down like that,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: where you can be better even though your statistics aren't
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: as good. Josh Allen, I believe it was 2020 or 2021,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one of those years where he had the super lights
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: out stats. It's never going to be like that again.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: He is clearly much better. than he was at that point.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: That's why using stats for your quarterback comparisons get tricky
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and why you have to actually watch. It's because of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: all those things. But this guy has walked in and
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: basically been the king since the second he showed up.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And even when people pass him his stats, even when
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he loses a Super Bowl, he is still the king
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and it's still the beginning. All right, number nine. Michael Phelps. Now,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest with you guys. I watch
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: swimming at the Olympics for the same reason you guys
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: watch swimming at the Olympics. Because it's on. And it's
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: on because Americans are good at it. We have the
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: kind of country where people can afford to just swim
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: all day. Right? This is our bag. This is what
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: we do. And I admit... That it has taken time
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: for me at various points to really get on board
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: with the greatness of Michael Phelps. And it is because
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: on one hand, I do believe we overstate the metal
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: count itself. Oh man, he won eight gold medals, right? Okay.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It's the only sport where it's possible. ironically, because it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: in the water, right? I don't know if that's ironic,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but anyway, it's because it's in the water, your body
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: can get back right, you know, those sorts of things.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: There's no way you can have a world where you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: can win eight gold medals in track and field. It's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: just not going to be it, right? At the same time,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you do at some point have to get up and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: recognize that ain't nobody else doing that. Um, I know
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I used to kind of be patronized and be like, well,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: if you had run forward and run backwards and run sideways,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: then maybe you could get these, you know, in track. Okay,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Um, but swimming forward and swimming backwards and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: doing it like that and doing it like this are
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: distinctly different things. And he does them better than anybody
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: else and then kept doing it like that for a very, very,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: very long time.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think the craziest Michael Phelps stat, I mean, obviously
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: he threw out the eight gold medals in 2008, but
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: he won six gold medals in 2004 and won five
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: in 2016.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think I realized the 2004. Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So the 2004, he comes into Athens. He's a teenager.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And six gold medals. A lot of those are individual.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And then you obviously have the great 2008. His disappointing 2012,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I think he only won four or five. That is
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the kind of sustained success he had. And also, we
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: talk about, remember, we had that conversation with Spencer Hall
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: about athletes that felt like the future. you know, Michael
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Phelps was built to be a dominant swimmer. Literally.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yes. It's interesting. It's like big feet, short legs. Like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like there, there is a body type that is,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that is necessary in order to do this. And I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: think like in talking about the magnitude and the greatness,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's also tricky because this is a sport
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that when you look, all the people are basically from
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like three, four places. And I know I'm going to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: use places very broadly, but it's like the United States.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: France, Australia.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. China, Japan.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Like stretches of Europe. Right. For whatever reason.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Places that can afford indoor and outdoor pools.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Or, you know, a legacy of communism. You know what
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like the commies was all about. Because think
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: about it, man. Once you put the water in the pool, baby,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it's paid for. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I bet that water in Russia, they used to swim
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in with coal. Woo-wee. At best. Yeah, you could cut
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: glass with them things when they was in there doing
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that swimming. But like it doesn't feel it doesn't feel
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like a world event to me. That's that I think
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is probably where the hold up came for me about swimming.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: But you put the whole goddamn world out there. He
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: still was going to be out there dusting them. Still.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: He is that guy, was that guy. And 2008 was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: almost 20 years ago. We ain't heard about nobody coming
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: up and doing this again. There were 36 years between
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he and Mark Spitz or him and Mark Spitz, right?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll come up again 36 years later. I have
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: no idea. Maybe that'll happen. But for now, you have
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to give credit to what he has done. And yeah, man,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: he has a strong argument for being the greatest Olympian
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of all time and the greatest of all time at
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: his sport. And that'll get you to number nine. Now,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: number eight. Shohei Ohtani. I actually, this tells you how
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: much slipping in my pimpin' is when it comes to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: baseball these days. I was doing a crossword puzzle the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: other day, and I needed that crossword puzzle to remind
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: me that Shohei Ohtani had gone 50-50.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Yeah, that's outrageous. Not in his
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: top three baseball accomplishments.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: No, I had completely forgotten. So first of all, I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: understand that the steroid era kind of skewed the way
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: we looked at 50 home runs, right? When I was
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a kid, Cecil Fielder hit 51 home runs in 1991.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: That was the first time in 14 years that that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: anyone had hit 50 home runs the first time. That
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: was an incredibly scarce sort of number for somebody to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: get to. Now people do it a little bit more, obviously.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm looking now and I would say totals that I
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: would deem post-steroid, and it's a little tricky because Prince
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Fielder hit 50 home runs the same year as Alice
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez and none of us believe that Alice Rodriguez Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: None of us believe Alex Rodriguez.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Let's posterior. Yeah, you can stop right there. You're correct. Like,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. I guess he got the money
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to buy that team. You know what I'm saying? But
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you want me to believe Alex Rodriguez? But it's like
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Jose Bautista, Chris Davis, Giancarlo Stanton, Aaron Judge has done
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it twice, Pete Alonso, Matt Olsen, like– It happens. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to pretend like it doesn't happen that guys
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: hit 50 home runs.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, people are trying to hit more home runs.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It's like the whole launch angle. It's like the whole
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: change of baseball.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: It's completely different. The idea that Otani is hitting 50
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: home runs and can steal 50 bases and can pitch...
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: can pitch. Howard Bryant came on and said he talked
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to CeCe Sabathia, and Sabathia's thing was, oh yeah, this
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: guy is the best baseball player of all time. time,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and the argument was he's treating this like high school. Yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just the best player at everything. Dude, did you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: realize this? That he has led the league in on-base
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: percentage and slugging twice? and back-to-back years, right? We're talking
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Ted Williams type of stuff with hitting. Now, of course,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Ted Williams, if Ted Williams struck out 162 times, right?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You know, again, it is a different game, but to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hit 300 and lead the league in all base percentage
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and strike out 162 times is crazy. And so in
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: looking at it, Is he a better baseball player than
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Barry Bonds? Maybe, but I just can't say that right now.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: You just ask. That requires me to divorce myself from
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of things that I think about the world, right?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not so sure of that. I will just point out,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if you knew this, Ryan, because
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: apparently they don't hit them like they used to, but
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Shohei Ohtani once led the league in triples.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: It's outrageous.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yes. Now, granted, it was only eight because apparently guys
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: don't hit triples.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because people are swinging for the fences.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: That's really disappointing, by the way. Triples are so much fun.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Triples are fun. Triples are awesome.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Triples are the most fun thing.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: You get the arm wave. You get the whole thing.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's right. Triples are great. But he's got to
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: be here. He does have a plausible argument at this
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: point for being the best baseball player that any of
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: us have ever seen. In a world where I saw
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Barry Bonds. That's a lot, guys. Like, that's a lot.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He's that dude. He has earned his place on our list.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And he also, you know, he's barely 31. He could
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: keep hitting another. It's not outrageous for him to hit
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: another 350 home runs. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: At some point, this pitching thing is going to stop.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Like, he's already done the Tommy John, you know, like.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: At some point, the pitching is going to stop. But
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: for all we know, man, he's going to be able
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to hit forever and ever and ever. By the way,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and I don't pay this close attention to this, but Ryan,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: his war last year was his batting war was nine points. 9.2.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: When I do the Immaculate Grid and they want to
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: use a number to point out a great season, it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a plus six war season. 9.2. All right, guys. Number seven.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather. I mean, look, man, ain't nobody beat him.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Uh, right. I don't think
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: there's anything else to say. I'll find ways to stress
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: this out, but ain't nobody beat him.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nobody beat him. Um, he was the probably want
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to talk about, go back to our heel conversation. One
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: of the all time sports heels, um, And still is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the standard for boxing.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: The argument against him is obviously very selective in taking
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: his fights and not really taking fights that put him
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: in a great deal of danger. That is fair. However,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: just about every single boxer I can think of that
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: reached the levels of greatness that he did get to,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: somebody snuck him. Right. Right. Nobody snuck him.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a one-point punch sport.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't recall there even being a, I
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think he lost that one. Right? Like,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't recall anything as such being the case with him.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: He's the greatest defensive fighter probably that anybody has ever seen. Yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: maybe he fought Canelo early. Maybe he fought Pacquiao late.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: All of those things are fair criticisms to make, right? However,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: nobody got him and he did the thing that no
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: boxer does. He walked away on his own terms and
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: hasn't come back. Not in a way that actually counts
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: or actually matters. That's what he's done. That by itself
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: gets you a pretty high listing here. right? He definitely
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: started in a weight class lower than the one that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: he ended up in, right? So he did the things.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And he's just, of course, very difficult to like for
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: significant reasons, not just superficial ones. Yes, yes, yes. That
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: is the best way to put this, serious and unserious.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's some serious reasons to dislike him. There
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: are unserious reasons also to dislike him but i will
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: say when you talk about all-time great troll um pablo
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: made this point i don't remember if he wrote something
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: on mayweather but he always made this point he started
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: calling himself money mayweather in 2008 In 2008, he started.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: That's when he went from being Pretty Boy Floyd to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Money Mayweather. He was basically Ted DiBiase for wrestling. He
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: basically made that call to be Ted DiBiase for wrestling.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: There is also when he fought Oscar De La Hoya.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a little late. When he fought Oscar De La
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Hoya and he shows up wearing a sombrero and a shirt.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that says on the front, Mexico loves Mayweather, and says
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: on the back, Mayweather loves Mexico. While he is being
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: flanked by his uncle, Roger Mayweather, who referred to himself
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in his boxing days as the Mexican assassin, because he
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: would just be out there killing those Mexicans. Hey, man. I...
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: You know, because boxing is the place where we allow this, right?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And boxing is the only place where we allow the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: outright race baiting for one very simple reason. They're going
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to go scrap it out.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have a problem, they'll solve it very quickly.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it, right? The proper response to this sort
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of behavior is a fight, which there will be. You
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: will have your opportunity to air your grievances wordlessly very soon.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: You go out there and you get to do it, right?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: That is why we halfway tolerate this situation. But no,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: he is all-time, all-time, all-time troll and all-time great boxer,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: even if he is all-time jerk.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Two more for today. Excuse me, one more for today.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Number six. Serena Williams. Sorry about that. Ryan had to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: duck in case any of my sisters tried to throw
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: something at me. To this one. As we have said,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Serena Williams has an argument. like everybody else on this list,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: for being the greatest tennis player of all time. I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: think that we all allowed Nike and recency bias to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: get us a little caught up in this idea of
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: greatest female athlete of all time or even greatest athlete
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: of all time that they went with. And my point
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: on that simply is, what's the argument against Steffi Graf here?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like even if you can
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: take Serena, I'm not saying you can't, but this idea
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that it is like completely over the top, there's nothing
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to talk about here.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: You don't think there's some similarities in Groff Williams as
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: there is to like Nicholas Tiger?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So the demerit against Groff is kind of unfair. Which
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: is the whole, what if Monica Seles didn't get stabbed? Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: But we can't assume that Seles, it was going to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: stay like it was.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Right. Forever.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Right. But I mean, Steffi Graf won the Grand Slam
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: in 1988 with the gold medal. Like we saw her.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I think that Steffi Graf demonstrated tiger-like qualities in her prime.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: That Nicholas never did.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: In a way that Nicholas did not. I think that's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: maybe the way that I would put it. I think
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: there's arguments to go either way, but I say all
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that to say six is really high on this list.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yes. If we're only saying five people in the last
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: 25 years, uh years were better than you were not hating.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah and when we get to the five
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you'll be like oh okay i kind of see what
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you're saying but let me tell you this let's get
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: this straight right now see ryan you were a a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: little bit young for when this happened and b just
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: throwing it out here probably not around as many black
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: people as i was in 1997. it's certainly yes certainly
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that age okay just throwing it out there so 1997
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: is not to talk about serena it is to talk
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: about venus And one of the indelible memories in my
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: mind is the 1997 U.S. Open final with Venus Williams
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: is there. I honestly do not remember who she played
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: against off the top of my head with the beads
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And I realized what a big deal
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: it was because it was my freshman year of college.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and we had just got there. And you know, when
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you just get, just get there, man, we are here
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: on the yard. We out here in the streets. We
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: ain't really trying to be inside. And in my all
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: boys dorm, it was Venus about to come on. And
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: we were all there in that lounge, right? Maybe one
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: of the only times that it wasn't showing Rap City
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: a video sold and we was locked in. Like that
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: mattered so much what it was that we were watching.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And so as we're watching it, and I believe she
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: lost that one, but I will never forget that Richard
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Williams told us, Serena's gonna be better And that seemed insane.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But she was. She was. She was better and in
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: line with Ryan's Tiger Woods comparison at points appeared to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: be better than anybody that we had ever seen. There
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: was a level of athleticism that we saw from her
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: playing tennis that we just had not seen with all
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the other stuff. Right? Like there wasn't As far as
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I can tell, I'm not the greatest tennis expert, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Pete Serena, where was the flaw? Where was the flaw?
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I did not see it. And she had a career
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that had ups and downs in a way where, you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of injuries type stuff, health type stuff. You
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: don't automatically see people go back on the up, right?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: But an incredibly long career in a sport that does
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: not necessarily guarantee you that while being one of the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: people who started off in this game when people really
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: started off very, very young. Now, of course, one of
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the Richard Williams things that's important is not burning those
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: kids out when they were super young and why they
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: could continue to do it because they were managed well.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: She won the French in 1999 in Wimbledon in 2016.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Two completely different tournaments, by the way. To be as
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: good on grass and on clay as she was capable
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of being is nuts, right? It's interesting how it could
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: have been difficult for me to fully grasp the magnitude
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of Michael Phelps winning at different strokes, but it wasn't
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: hard at all to tell the difference between who was
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: winning in between playing on clay versus playing on grass
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and then playing on hard court. All of that. She...
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: did that while also being a revolutionary figure in a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: lot of ways, right? Hardly anyone has ever been better
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: at understanding everybody's looking at me and half of these
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: people are looking at me because they can't stand me,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: but I got some form since they're going to be
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: looking at me. And yes, That is exactly what I'm
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: talking about, fellas. Exactly what I'm talking about. I don't
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: know if Ryan knows what it is that I'm talking
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: about again, because this is an age gap situation. But
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: for those of us who were there, if you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm talking about. That's right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about that catsuit. And I ain't got no
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: problem talking about this catsuit in front of y'all. You
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: know why I ain't got no problem talking about this catsuit?
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Because she didn't wear it for us not to talk
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: about it. She didn't wear it for us not to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: look at it. She knew exactly what time it was
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: because we can all tell time. OK. If the little
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: hand go up and the bottom hand go straight down,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you know what it is? It's 1230. There's no room
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: for interpretation about that. That's just what it is. That
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: can't suit. You can tell time. You know exactly what
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the time was. There has never, ever been a point
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: that I could think of in my life, in this
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: era that we stand in, that not only was everybody
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: allowed to sit there with their jaws dropped on the ground,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It was the expectation that would be the case. In fact,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: if you didn't do that, you were the one who
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: was being disrespectful. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. Brian,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: if you've never seen the catsuit, go ahead and look
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen the catsuit, but this is a.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, baby. Everybody's allowed here, dog. Everybody's allowed here.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, she didn't do it for us not
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: to do this. Correct. That's, that's, that's, you're not, you're not, see,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: what you're not going to do is do that and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: then tell me I got to act like you dress
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: for church. You're not going to do that. It's not fair.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: That's not it. But it was a thing, right? Like,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: it was the ultimate, you, you are, I see you
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: looking with your looking ass. But in every way, in
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: every single way. Like, Ryan, when you would watch SportsCenter
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and everything around that happening, nobody was saying the words,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: but it was just.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: We all knew.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I sent it. It was a photo moment. I sent
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it to my dad, and his response was, I can
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: dig it. Signed, Pops. I'm sorry. That and dominating Maria
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Sharapova at Wimbledon and then Cripwalking. Those are the top
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: two surrealist moments of all time. Yo, I still wish
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that she would have owned the Cripwalk rather than try to,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about what it is. Come
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: on now, you went out here and you decided to
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: do it. But we'll talk about, you know, well, okay.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you knew Tiger Woods was coming later. We'll
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: talk about him later. But they tried a thing where
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: they tried to invent rivals for Tiger Woods. They kept
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: trying to come up with them, right? And he just
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: slew them all. Serena Williams and Maria Sharapova. We're going
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: to look this up to make sure I get the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: numbers right, okay? They played against each other. And by
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the way, there is a wiki page called Sharapova-S. Williams rivalry, okay?
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: In their rivalry, Maria Sharapova won the first two times
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: That they played. No, got that wrong. Serena won the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: first two times they played. Maria Sharapova won the next two.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Won in the Wimbledon final, won in the finals at
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the WTA championships. And to be fair, Ryan, that sounds
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: like the start of a rivalry. Right. Serena beat her
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the next 19 times they played.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Clearly had and clearly enjoyed every victory.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Every single time. 19 times in a row. The last
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: one was 6-1, 6-1. The one before that, 6-4, 6-1.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, in their last eight matches,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Sharapova didn't win a set. She did win a set
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: at the 2013 Miami Masters. In the first set, it
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: then lost 6-3, 6-love for the next two. Before that, 6-3, 6-2, 6-4, 6-3.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: At the Olympics, it was 6-love, 6-1, which is like
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the Tiger Woods 9-8 over that dude at the match play. Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: That one time. 6-1, 6-3, 6-1, 6-3.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: There's very few sports where you can beat someone 19
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: times in a row.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: 19. And again... Oh, there's 6162 in the 07 Aussie final. Oh,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: there's 6161 at the Miami Masters. Yeah, yeah, they did
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a little too much. And then did Marisha Epubicola a
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: home record at one time?
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I don't have a memory of that one, but I
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: knew that rivalry was not just about the tennis court. Yeah,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: to put it simply.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: It was a lot going on. The only thing that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't going on was Maria Sharapova beating Serena Williams. That
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