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2-26-26 Hour 2 - Sean Payton's moment of growth/Calvin Booth made it "look too easy"/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Combine and that's where all of the rumors start. One
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  Speaker 2: of the things that went down yesterday though, was this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the whole film session of Golden State
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  Speaker 3: was they were starting their.
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  Speaker 2: Office, were not the right clip, Adam And well, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's just one of those things that it accidentally got overwritten.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But Sean Payton talking about giving over play calling duties
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  Speaker 2: to Davis Webb, and I have a question about this. Sure, well,
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  Speaker 2: you're good knowing. One of the questions I have, as
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  Speaker 2: we discussed this a lot yesterday about Sean Payton actually
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  Speaker 2: doing that, I have like this fear that this is
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  Speaker 2: backup quarterback syndrome, that everybody just assumes that the backup
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  Speaker 2: quarterback that they've fallen in love with is going to
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  Speaker 2: be better than the starter, where that's very very very
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  Speaker 2: very rarely the case. Now, Sean Payton has given him
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  Speaker 2: this because he said, I think this is going to
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  Speaker 2: be better, which is fine. Are we going to be
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  Speaker 2: patient enough that a first time play caller is probably
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  Speaker 2: going to struggle a bit early in the season to
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  Speaker 2: get that figured out. Is it going to take you know,
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  Speaker 2: two losses in the first three weeks where the offense
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  Speaker 2: puts up thirteen points before we start yelling for Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton to take over again, just saying.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, Vic, I mean this is you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have that. Yeah, you're going to. But at the same time, man,
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  Speaker 4: you've got you've got a lot of unknown out there.
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  Speaker 4: We will not know. I told Brett yesterday, we will
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  Speaker 4: not know until we get to September.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because you can't it'll be beyond September.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that'll be your first real taste. You
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  Speaker 4: can't know until it's for real. I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 4: camp or preseason or anything else. And I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be guys out there as a DMAC we call
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  Speaker 4: them muggles. We're going, oh, Davis web Today in trading camp,
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  Speaker 4: the offense ate up the defense, and his play calling
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  Speaker 4: was brilliant. It doesn't matter none of that matters until
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  Speaker 4: you actually face a team that wants to rip your
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  Speaker 4: head off.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a joint operation either way. You
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  Speaker 3: cannot tell me. Let's say Davis Webb does handle all
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  Speaker 3: the play calling all right during the week, who's setting
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  Speaker 3: up the plays, who's projecting the play sheet? Who has
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  Speaker 3: the final say again, I mean the final says all
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  Speaker 3: that matters. Really, it's all that matters. You can come
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  Speaker 3: up with the best designed play in the world, but
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, who makes final call?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's gonna be Davis web When
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  Speaker 2: you say makes well, I don't think there's room for
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  Speaker 2: discussion in thirty nine seconds for I'm gonna call a
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  Speaker 2: play and Sean Payton says, no, don't call that play,
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  Speaker 2: call this play. There's not enough time.
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  Speaker 3: Runner passes. What I'm more getting at.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's gonna be heavily involved in what
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  Speaker 2: he wants the game plan to look like. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna hand over the play calling DoD, he's you
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  Speaker 2: hand him over. You can't micro manage your guy.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if.
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  Speaker 2: You want to give him control. He needs to have
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  Speaker 2: control now late in games and stuff like that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there will be a lot more heavy involvement on
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  Speaker 2: the headset with Sean Payton Brett.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Sean Payton from what you've seen so far,
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  Speaker 3: from what you've experienced because you've been to training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Does he have his hand in everything with the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he does.
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  Speaker 3: So you just use the word micromanage. You don't think
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  Speaker 3: he's going to retain and maintain a hand in plays,
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  Speaker 3: even if it's.
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  Speaker 2: God I'm saying, of course he is in the game
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  Speaker 2: planning during the week. I don't think you can do
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  Speaker 2: that on game day. There's not enough time to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Sure is.
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  Speaker 3: Hey it here, Hey, hey, hey run If you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what it feels like, here's it feels like it
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  Speaker 2: might be this little Brett, Then why hand him over
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  Speaker 2: in the first place? Then what's If that's the way
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna be, then just keep it.
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  Speaker 3: Now opens them up to do other things.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, it takes a weight off his shoulders.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there was some nudging from higher ups.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any nudging.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe there isn't. But certainly, when Ben Denucci says
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  Speaker 4: they've got to keep this guy, it tells you that
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  Speaker 4: clearly the guys on the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 4: especially the quarterback, have a great working relationship with Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me present two things. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: on the the seeing a lot of people throw that
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  Speaker 2: out there like there was pressure from higher up for
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  Speaker 2: him to give up play calling duties. Everything that has
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  Speaker 2: come out of the Walton Penner group's mouths in regards
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  Speaker 2: to this organization is we don't do the football decisions.
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  Speaker 2: We give them the tools, they do the decisions. If
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  Speaker 2: he told Penner Sean Payton, you aren't calling plays anymore,
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  Speaker 2: that is a direct contradiction of how they've operated this
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  Speaker 2: entire time. And I don't think that it is remotely
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  Speaker 2: possible that that happened.
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  Speaker 3: To assume that Sean Payton, even if he is giving
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  Speaker 3: up play calling duties is great, and I agree. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a wise move, it's a bold move. It's
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  Speaker 3: something that he's never done before in his NFL career ever.
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  Speaker 3: But to assume that he's going to walk away and
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  Speaker 3: let the guy do it all, I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 2: But but hang on, I again, come on. There's a
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  Speaker 2: difference here between in between being involved in the game plan,
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  Speaker 2: but when you're on Sunday and the guy's got the
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  Speaker 2: play sheet, you let him call the plays. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's too foreign, because who did Sean Payton?
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  Speaker 2: Who's he is a disciple of Bill Parcells, who did
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  Speaker 2: this exact same thing at around the exact same age
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  Speaker 2: when he was coaching.
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  Speaker 3: He's give in short the balls at the fourteenth time out?
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, what are we going to do here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: He might he might be. He might get into the Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what we're going to do here? That's what most coaches
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  Speaker 4: roles are. I was going to see the way my
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  Speaker 4: brain works relating things to other things. To me, it
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  Speaker 4: gives a clearer picture of what we're talking about. I
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  Speaker 4: was going to relate the Sean Payton to Davis Webb
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  Speaker 4: handing over of the play calling duties to what I
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  Speaker 4: learned to fly. I'm in the p I C. Piloting
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  Speaker 4: command seat on the left, instructors on the right. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but should anything go wrong, he's got full controls. But
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't touch a thing. Right, It's all me Except
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  Speaker 4: the time when I was in a power on stall,
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  Speaker 4: staring straight up at the sky here in Colorado and
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  Speaker 4: the plane rolled over on its back. He's like, my
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  Speaker 4: plane takes over flies it, you know, to level flight,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm back in control of the plane. Okay, Maybe
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  Speaker 4: the same kind of thing the driver's head car.
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  Speaker 2: They got a steering wheel and pedals on the other
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  Speaker 2: side too. They just don't touch it. Does the driver's
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  Speaker 2: head car with a steering wheel. It doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: steer wheel yet. Sorry, pedals, yes, pedals right, Like two
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  Speaker 2: steering wheels would be freaky.
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  Speaker 4: That would be freaky anyway. But the point is that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: same kind of story. In case of emergency, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: take over. But vic, did you see the demeanor of
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton when he was talking the other day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Did he seem happy and calm and content with the decision?
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  Speaker 3: Fine?
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  Speaker 4: He seemed absolutely fine. Maybe this is a chance where
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  Speaker 4: he really looks at it and says, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I don't need that minutia brain damage every single play
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  Speaker 4: of every single quarter of every single game, every single year.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he thinks, you know what, maybe maybe he's
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  Speaker 4: really impressed by web. Sure, you know what, this guy
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  Speaker 4: is on a path that was even beyond my path, and.
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  Speaker 3: That and that'll be a moment of growth even for
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton absolutely fifties, sixties and seventies.
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  Speaker 4: But having but having been that guy vic for so long,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's gonna be moments in eh, oh God,
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  Speaker 4: I don't like, you know, he's gonna he's gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to grit his teeth and Barrett sometimes he really.
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  Speaker 3: Is not calling the plays for Sean Payton has to
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  Speaker 3: be the most foreign concept ever, and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: feel like he's naked at times on the sideline. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not an easy task, and I give him full
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  Speaker 3: credit for making that decision. Having said that, you're naive
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  Speaker 3: if you don't think he's going to have a say
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  Speaker 3: in play calls. Of course he is.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like.
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  Speaker 4: It's like me on the road in Detroit. It's a
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  Speaker 4: National TV game and I'm sitting in the press box
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  Speaker 4: eating gummy bears, going kinda yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that meant. There is one thing
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  Speaker 2: that he said yesterday, though, Victor or two days ago,
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  Speaker 2: that I think that this is pretty remarkable to him,
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  Speaker 2: like almost shocking, considered his demeanor usually at a press
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  Speaker 2: conference setting, which was this when you go fourteen and
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  Speaker 2: three and you win close games. You could go up
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  Speaker 2: to that podium and be like, Yeah, we won those
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  Speaker 2: games because I am awesome and we're so great in
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  Speaker 2: crunch time, because I'm a great coach who gets my
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  Speaker 2: team ready for those moments. And instead he said.
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  Speaker 5: This, we want a lot of games by one score
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  Speaker 5: or less, right, And I'm not naive enough to think
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  Speaker 5: those games couldn't have swung. Where's the meat on the bone.
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  Speaker 5: The meat on the bone exists with our takeaways. That
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  Speaker 5: has to improve our run game, consistently, consistency, our meat
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  Speaker 5: on the bone relative to a number of things that
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  Speaker 5: we won despite maybe not being as good as others
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  Speaker 5: relative to this team, you know, writing its own chapter
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  Speaker 5: and getting us to where we want to go, which
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  Speaker 5: is obviously a game and a half further than where
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  Speaker 5: we went.
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  Speaker 2: To say, I'm not naive enough to think that those
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  Speaker 2: one score games couldn't flip. I think is pretty great
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  Speaker 2: to hear from your head coach.
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  Speaker 3: That is great. That's the truth, man. Look, it happened
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  Speaker 3: to Kansas City to the next it happened to Kansas City.
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  Speaker 3: One year, they're winning games by the hair their chiny
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  Speaker 3: chin chin. In the next year, they're out of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is a skill to win close games. It is
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  Speaker 2: also oh very much a game of luck and bounces
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  Speaker 2: going your way or not. But I'm look I think
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  Speaker 2: that he he wanted Davis web here and is giving
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  Speaker 2: him seemingly the keys to that offense on game days
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  Speaker 2: call plays because he trusts him. He said he thinks
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  Speaker 2: this will make the team better. And I know he's
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  Speaker 2: still going to have a huge saying how that game
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  Speaker 2: plan and the scheme looks. But I think he's really
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  Speaker 2: going to give him a true shot and not be
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  Speaker 2: too much in his ear. Although it will happen at
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  Speaker 2: times because him letting total totally go of that leash
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  Speaker 2: is not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: It feels for a guys that can be as intense
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  Speaker 4: as Sean Payton, who's always done it his way. It
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  Speaker 4: feels like this is a big ask give up what.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like we truly won't know until September at least,
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  Speaker 4: and then beyond that's it. That is it. But at
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  Speaker 4: the same time we have our answer. It was an
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  Speaker 4: immediate answer. Yep, Webb's calling him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really didn't think it was gonna happen, like
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  Speaker 2: he was gonna announce it this early. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why I thought this would like linger all threats.
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  Speaker 3: I think he knew he was gonna get that question
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  Speaker 3: time and time again anytime he had a press conference.
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  Speaker 2: But also vic I saw where actually the Buffalo Bill's
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  Speaker 2: front office actually leaked it first.
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  Speaker 3: Hm. Maybe it was their way. Maybe it was Buffalo's
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  Speaker 3: way of, hey, we couldn't land this guy. Here's why.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, but they were asked before Sean Payton
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  Speaker 4: spoke of the combine. The Bill's front office spilled the beans.
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  Speaker 4: They said, well, he's gonna get a chance to call
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  Speaker 4: plays now, so blah blah blah blah blah, and the
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  Speaker 4: media is like, oh, John, John, John, John John, you
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  Speaker 4: have to spill the beans At.
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  Speaker 2: That point, I'm sure Sean was real happy about that,
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  Speaker 2: another organization spilling his organization secrets something. It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: he would take that in stride.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we just spent last segment talking about coaching
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: turnover at CU and how we're sort of set back
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  Speaker 3: by all these coaches that have come and gone. The
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  Speaker 3: Broncos had a hell of a lot of coaching turnover
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  Speaker 3: as well, and that's coming off a very successful season
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  Speaker 3: different reasons, right, So the same thing can happen for
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  Speaker 3: different reasons. The Broncos lost coaches, some just song saw promotions,
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  Speaker 3: others just it just wasn't gonna work here. Yeah, I mean,
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: think about all the coaches the Broncos lost or took off.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the most shocking thing relating the coaches
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  Speaker 2: and the Broncos this offseason. You know, maybe giving over
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  Speaker 2: play calling duties is number one now, but maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that there were ten head coaching vacancies and
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  Speaker 2: Vance Joseph is still here is crazy to me. Ten
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  Speaker 2: teams were looking for a coach.
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  Speaker 3: Some of that is on his own accord. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to walk into a job that you know has
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  Speaker 3: no chance. He already did this song and dance. See
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  Speaker 3: he's not that first.
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  Speaker 4: Time is like, come on, can you give me? Give
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  Speaker 4: me a chance.
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  Speaker 3: He knows what it takes to win as a head coach.
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  Speaker 3: He knows, and if you don't have that quarterback position
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  Speaker 3: sealed up, you're just gonna walk into another brick wall.
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  Speaker 3: It's a nice I know this for a fact. Hey listen, Bret,
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you some behind the scenes on why Vance
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  Speaker 3: Joseph is not a head coach. It's not all because
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  Speaker 3: opposing teams, other teams weren't interested. He wasn't interested in
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  Speaker 3: several of these jobs.
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  Speaker 4: Give give Vic. Oh my god, I can't believe I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying this. Give Vic five guesses at who sings that song?
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  Speaker 2: Oh he's got to know that, don't you.
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  Speaker 4: No, he would never know.
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  Speaker 3: It's a CDC.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Vic, very nice.
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  Speaker 4: So dude, I'm I'm so impressed by you. I want
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  Speaker 4: to kiss you on the mouth right now.
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  Speaker 3: Going to a c DC this summer with my high
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: school buddies.
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  Speaker 4: You're kidding me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, guess roll.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going on September seventeenth.
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  Speaker 2: Target.
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  Speaker 4: Hell, yes, Target is it. Yeah, I'm gonna grab a
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  Speaker 4: few things that I'm gonna hit the airport. No, it
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  Speaker 4: is the final residency in the history of mankind for Scorpions.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they say that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going, well yeah, but I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Do what every rock band does. It's actually our eighteenth
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: farewell to our.
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  Speaker 4: It's the first show of the final residency. It's in
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  Speaker 4: Vegas seventeenth. I'll see you there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start doing that now. Every day I get
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: on this radio show, I'm gonna say, guys, this is
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: my last month doing radio. And then the next month
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  Speaker 2: i'm gonna say this is gonna get last month.
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  Speaker 3: And understand, you know, our boy Marto was like this,
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  Speaker 3: and there are a lot of people. I'm not judging
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  Speaker 3: you people who do this. I'm not I'm not judging you.
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  Speaker 3: I just find it curious how you find the energy
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  Speaker 3: to do this. People who travel, like get in a
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  Speaker 3: plane and go see bands in far off.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I would never do that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get it. I mean, if they come here, fine,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to the exactly how I am go check out,
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  Speaker 3: but jump in a plane and hey, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm going to Tuscaloosa this week to
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  Speaker 3: see the Scorpions.
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  Speaker 2: I've never I've never been to one of these one.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of makes sense, Like a music festival is
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  Speaker 2: different because you could see a bunch of bands at once.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of makes sense to me. I would never
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  Speaker 2: like but I love Bruno Mars and I would if
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he came back to town. I would see Bruno Mars.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't fly to Chicago to go see Bruno Mars, though.
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  Speaker 4: What's this? And this is all I want to say
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  Speaker 4: about this? I want to get back on track. I
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: want to talk Hocky, you want to talk Hoops, want
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  Speaker 4: to talk.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Bruno's new album tomorrow. Yeah, now I'm
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: gonna need some Bruno tomorrow.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Hey, Vic, how much would your like your wife like
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: to go to Vegas and hang and see Scorpions with
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: me in the bear?
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: She hates Vegas, she likes the Scorpions, but she's not
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: into concerts. I don't think anymore. Really, And if I
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: ask her that question right now, what do you think.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: What do you think the response will be?
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Big? Shut up exactly?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Can I admit something? Have time for your crew?
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this makes me like less of
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: a man. I don't like Vegas.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I am not a Vegas I'm so glad you said
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: that when the super Bowl is in Vegas. And apologies
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: to all our Vegas advertisers. Do we have some? I don't.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I can't stand Vegas.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not a big Vegas guy either.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I love the idea of Vegas more than actually being
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: in Vegas. I told you this most I like Sinatra Vegas.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: That's the Vegas I want to get, right. Do you
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: want to go downtown to Fremont. Yeah, that's my kind
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: of Vegas that I like. It was more adult thing adults.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Now it's very kids and family.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Here's here's my thing. Maybe SI show. Certainly I have
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: to go to Vegas to see Scorpions because.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: They over priced now or a joke.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: But then, but then you can always find if you're
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: willing to golf in one hundred and eleven degrees, you
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: can find some great deals on some killer golf course. Yeah. Hey,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: by the way, Nuggets win last night at the absent
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: last night. Both teams played well. Got the dub Nuggets
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: great defense, which was a nice little change of pace.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: They they yes, and Boston was red hot. They won
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: all three games post All Star Break. They won nine
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to ten, dating two before the All Star Break, Jalen
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Brown scoring twenty nine points a game. You held them
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to seven to twenty one from the field. Fantastic And
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: during that game. I'm just telling you, because I listened
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to most of this, couldn't stop thinking about that interview
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: with Calvin Booth.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I couldn't stop, so I missed that. I haven't heard
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: it yet. I've been gone. Oh boy. I saw it
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: on social media that he visited with Kevin O'Connor of
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yahoo Sports, and I said, wow, that's pretty bold because
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: in this business, as you know, mos, if you're gonna
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: spit it all out, put it all on on the table,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: that could impact future jobs, right, yes, right, Vick.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: It's I think a little bit of what he said
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: makes sense, That's right. I think a lot of what
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: he said. I'm like, uh, er, here's what it is.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: So listen to this. This is what killed me about it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I told you, guys, I have been pretty sympathetic towards
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Calvin Booth because I felt bad the vision he had
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: for this team was never given an opportunity to see
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: if it would work or not. His draft and develop
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: approach only works if you developed the young guys that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you drafted, but they never played. And pardon me, felt
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: batter add that you never quite saw his vision.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Can you give me a synopsis again? I just saw
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I got made it to look too easy. Yeah, he
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: defended coach Malone said it was never as bad as
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: it looked. We never got into any physical altercations in public. Yeah, okay,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I I haven't seen it. Listen, Calvin was always good
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to me, very nice to me. So until I hear
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the entire interview, I'm not gonna pass any judgment.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: So just give me what you know.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Here's he said. Four things happened as the reason why
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: he got let go from the job. The first thing
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he called the Nikola Jokic effect, which is when you
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: have the best player in the world, everything else is
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: taken for granted.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: So all the.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Moves that he makes get uh not the credit that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they deserve because it all goes to Jokic being incredible.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: There's more pressure that comes. I understand that part of
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the equation. When you have the best player in the world,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the pressure on your front office is immense. You've got
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: But what he's saying is he didn't get the proper
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: credit for the moves that he made because they just
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: gave Jokic.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: All the credit got I got.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: So he feels that Joker was getting too much credit.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: No, it's just that, Oh, he wasn't blaming Jokics for anything.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Can you play Can you play that one, judge?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, we're gonna get there in a second. So
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that's the first thing. The second thing is the friction
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: between him and Malone that he's he kind of downplayed
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and said it's not as bad as it seemed, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: there was certainly a tension between those two of how
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to run an organization.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: But he also, uh, there's more to that that I
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: saw him out yesterday. I thought Tyler Columbus had an
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: outstanding response.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: The third thing he said, vic he did put some
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of this on the cronkeys in this sense. He said,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: for all the success that they've had across sports, they
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: don't place value on front office executives like other organizations do.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That was his sort of take on well, which is
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: weird because they certainly do that with the Rams, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: they do that with the Aves.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Well, can I can I give you my translation of that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I think with the Rams, in with the Aves, they
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: have people in place that make a lot of those
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: key decisions. I think because they're basketball guys, and you've
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: met both Josh and stand their basketball guys.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they do a lot.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Of the heavy lifting in basketball that you may not
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: know about.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Josh said as much when they fired Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the guys last year they do it. He said, I'm
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: going to take a bigger role in this thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: So that's you know, when you said you don't value
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: those execs, it's because they're doing a lot of that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Victor he questioned, I mean, Calvin questioned Arsenal. I mean,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I'm like you, you're going out there pretty good.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is, at least with the
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Avs and and the the.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Rams, they've got some pretty damn good people in place.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: And by the way, did they try to keep Tim Connolly?
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: They'd love to. He got way too good offer Massias Jury,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: way too good offer from toront I mean.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: To be fair, they could have kept both. They chose
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: not to.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but it would have been ridiculous. It would
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: have it would have been it would but it would
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: have been ridiculous. And you know that, and I know that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: So what, it's not your money, I wouldn't have done it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I think VI's right on that. You're you're now, you're
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you're going away the other way?
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: No, right, what do you mean? No? I could pay
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the decisions were made.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: You could pay a player fifty five million dollars and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you don't blink. But you can't compete with a GM
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: that doesn't know it gets.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Partial ownership of the franchise. I know, but it was offered.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: It didn't happen.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I know, But you know what I mean. Okay, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: think I think what Vic said earlier. I think it's true.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: They feel like they got more of a handle and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: grasp on the basketball staff than the other stuff.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: They have a Listen, I mean, do you think that
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: they're making calls about Sam Gerard in the NHL?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're absolutely not in the.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I they had an opinion on Porter's trade, You.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Damn right, they do. So that's just that's the answer.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Why it's not because they don't value them. It's because
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: they're doing more of that work themselves.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: And here's the last thing, and this is probably what
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you heard, but Nelly, go ahead.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: And the last thing is, I think I just made
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: it look too easy. All right, So you're a podcaster,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: a durnal list, Hey, anybody that has that's really good
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: or something. When they make it look easy, that was
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: really really hard to get to. A lifetime's worth of
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: playing basketball, being coaching basketball, having conversations, scouting, doing whatever
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: for me to make it go in there right away,
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: assemble championship team, win a championship. I think when you
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: take the joker and.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Now now we're getting that now, now I didn't hear this.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: What do you mean You drafted Joker, you drafted Marie,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: you drafted MPJ. I mean, yeah, I'm gonna give you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: full credit for doing what you did in the off
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: season and bring Bruce Brown and KCP here. Just a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: brilliant move, brilliant, but don't take credit for assembling the team.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Come on, now, come on.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I had the same reaction, O my aad stop stop
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: now and.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Now now now hearing that that that's a bit, that's
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: that's what put me over the top, Nelly, I just
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: sent you something I don't know if.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: You haven't pulled up yet. And I'll give you the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Tyler Columbus response to another little snippet that came out
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: yesterday from Kevin O'Connor about about his interview with Calvin Booth.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to sit here and bag on
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: him because I hope he gets another job and I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: hope he's successful.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: So let's let's hear the rest of this go ahead.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: And a head coach paradox ownership and their precedse and hey, look,
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: they have a formula works championships in hockey, basketball, football,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Arsenali probably get one soon, I mean, And it's their
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: prerogative to operate that way, and I think it's the
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: right call. I'll probably disagree with their take upon executives,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: especially in this world, but like, who am I that got?
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: They've been so successful, right, maybe it's a white right
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: way to operate, but I'll say that you encompass that
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: all that and some media manipulation and then all of
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: a sudden, somehow, some way, I don't I'm not running
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: a NBA.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Team right now, so media manipulation.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, and hearing just that minute twelve whatever
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that was. I could see how there was an ego
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: struggle between him and Malone, because I know the ego
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that Malone had. And then for him to say I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: walked in and assembled a championship team, it's like you made,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to his credit, the proper tweaks. You said it big
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Bruce Brown KCP trade, which I don't know if Tim
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Conley trades Will Barton for KCP, I don't know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: If he does exactly right.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And he drafted spot and he drafted Christian Brown, which
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was also a big one.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Tim Conley had a blind spot for Will Barton.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But the heavy lifting was done. You were tweaking, you weren't.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You weren't assembling a roster. You were tweaking a roster
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that was already pretty damn good. Like I still think
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: if Jamal Murray doesn't have his knee blow up one
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of those two years that he was out of the postseason,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: maybe you get a championship then maybe or you.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Get a crackhet it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Hold on, take a step back here, take a step back.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And I wish not that he needs my advice or
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: would seek my advice, But I don't think he did
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: himself any favors Calvin for doing that podcast or whatever
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the hell that was. That doesn't do you any favors.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: In fact, that's going to make it tougher for you
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: to land a job. To be honest with you, because
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: if you don't think other owners are listening to stuff
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: like this, I mean, if you're talking, if you're talking
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: about your previous job the way he just did, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: mean you think they're gonna be a little more hands off.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Now this is what this is where you go. Let
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: me ask you this question. We work here, we're biased.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: We're biased, doesn't mean we're not critical. Doesn't mean we're
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: not critical at all. I mean, you just heard my criticism.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: If you want to retain a great general manager, you
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: got to pay for it. The Nuggets chose not to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: pay for Tim Conley in Messiah Jerry they let him walk.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's on them if they didn't, but they proved without
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: those guys they still want a championship. Let me ask
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you this, m buis biggest sports empire in the country,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: in the world, in the world. Who's had more success
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: than this sports empire over the last decade.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Nobody.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: It's not even clothes so, so Kelvin is criticizing the
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: way this sports conglomerate is run even though it's produced
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: a football championship.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He did give him credit. I mean, he did say
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: that the way that they do business is working.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Well, he said who he said, who am I to say?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Because it's working. But at the same time, he's like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: why don't I have a job? Right?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I don't know about why he doesn't have one.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I could just tell you whatever they're doing is working. Yeah,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: clearly it's working. Ask every other franchise that hasn't won
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: championships in the last ten years if they'd rather have
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: it this way, ask them one again.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It's like, I think he nailed it with the basketball
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: part because you look at the other franchises they have.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think Kevin dem Off or less Neat is
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: going anywhere in LA. They're keeping them around forever.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: An executive turnover. When's the last time that AVS had an.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Executive I was just gonna mention, like, Joe Sakic isn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the GM because he got promoted to something bigger than that,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and then they just promoted Chris McFarland up. They aren't
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. I don't know about Arsenal, so I can't
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: speak to that. I know that they haven't changed head coaches.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Well, they're five clear of Man City for the top
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: spot right now.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Now I'm saying their front office, I guess.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Well, I mean, but also Chris McFarland and
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Joe Sakick are good.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why they're still in their jobs.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, and they're going forward all the time. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: said yesterday the Sammy g trade, that's not a reactive
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: trade at the deadline. That's a proactive trade. You're keeping
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: a step ahead and you're going for it because you
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: know your window is open. I love the way they operate.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: When your job. When your job is roster construction. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you look at Calvin Booth's final year. That was not
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a well constructed ruster. That was a well constructed starting five,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and that was the big problem. Tenser and Wallace come
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in and now it's a roster. They won games, They
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: stayed afloat, they stayed the three seed despite four starters
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: being out. Imagine what that would have looked like last year.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Last thing here, he talked about the tension between himself
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: and Michael Malone and this is where Columbus is.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, what did he say about that?
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: This is where Plumbus is? Snappy retorted, is so good?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Nelly, please, Out of all the things being
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: reported out of coach Malone and mys relationship, never a
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: physical art altercation in front of people, Never a verbal
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: altercation in front of people. So like, you know, where
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: where's the beef? Right? Like you know, well, that's what
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: would have been reported, right, you know, like that's what
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: would have been reported. But like coach Malone, I mean,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: here he is, and that that's going to be And hey, look,
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I guess this is where we both have maybe we
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: have to take some account ability in it. But like
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, he doesn't desire to
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: be bit table at ESPN and commentating games over some
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: perceived rift that like is basically gone on Stys to
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: anamals and time and every professional sport.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I just know what I thought, that was a little bizarre.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I can only speak from if somebody
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: wanted to hire a coach Malone, they would have hired
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: coach Malone by now, sure.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Bro, hang on a second, because you guys didn't get
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: into a fist isn't a cut Brett.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Here's Columbus quote, I too defined my healthy relationships is
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: never having a physicalation in front of people. End quote.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: I thought when I saw Tyler write that, I'm like,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: that is so good. Yeah, me too, I defined my
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: healthy relationships with everybody. Did we get in a fist
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: fight in a Walmart? Hey? What's the first I say?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: What do we do when you're seeking new employment?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Wherever these guys end up?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't, Redisassina Applebee.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And I wish I wish the best for Calvin and
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: coach Malone. I really they were good to me, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I agree they agreed, agreed. I really do. I wish
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the best for both of them. And I don't want
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: to do this, oh sour grapes because they're I really
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: do hope they find new work soon. But what will
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: be the first question by the new employeer? What will
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: be the first question in each of these guys going
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to be what happened in den?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And the answer is we couldn't figure out a
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: proper approach to both get on board, to find a
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: way to win, Like we couldn't compromise.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we're good. I didn't break his nose
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: into basking Robbins. Everything's just uh.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: One last reminder ticket Thursday.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I wish the best for both of those guys, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: really do.
• 31:49
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  Speaker 2: aware of, here's one of them. Oh. By the way,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: have you guys watched a lot of college basketball lately?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Because I'll be honest, I used to be all in
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: on college basketball, and then there's so many things to
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: pay attention to here. I can't force myself to have
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: another thing.
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  Speaker 3: I may watched a lot over the last two weeks, yes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But I know for you personally, you only have a
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: certain amount of data. I got a bandwidth problem, that
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: is correct.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: So if something comes in, then something else goes out.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: For at this point of.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: The year, I always say it's a bouncer at the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: door of a club. It's like I can't let anybody
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: else in without something leaving.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: So that's that's kind of way it's been for me
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: as well lately. But I've been watching more and morge
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: college hoops getting ready for March Madness.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Do you guys know who the head coach of Saint
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: John's is?
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's Rick Patino.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: He's moved around.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Do you guys know what Rick Patino? Saint John's team
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: did last night against Yukon.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: They didn't score a field goal in the final seventeen
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and a half minutes of the game. Is that correct?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Twenty four consecutive mission shots, no field goals for seventeen
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  Speaker 2: and a half minutes of the second half.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: That feels to me like it's impossible.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: They finished with forty points. It's the longest streak of
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: missed field goals by an AP ranked team in the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: last eight seasons. And I'll be honest, it's why since
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: coming here and watching professional basketball and the highest level
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of that with the Nuggets, it's hard for me to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: watch college players' missshots as often as they do after
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: watching every open jumper in the NBA going straight through
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: no rim swish. But twenty four consecutive missshots is wild.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. I got one for you. Go ahead.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: By the way, Cincinnati the football team, not the city,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: one of the worst cities. In the US, Cincinnati the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: football team is suing former quarterback Soorsby what's his first name.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: They're suing them for one million dollars in damages because
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: he didn't pay back the one million dollar buyout before
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: taking the Texas Tech deal. Texas Tech is paying him
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: an nil deal worth four to six million dollars and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: part of the buyout to leave Cincinnati, he had to
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: pay a million dollar buyout, but he took it to
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: court where his representatives did and according to Ohio court.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And this is where it gets stupid, right, according to
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Ohio law, it's an unlawful penalty. This buyout. It doesn't
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: work in Ohio. This is where things get murky with
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: this nil crap. What does that mean? If you wrote
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: down on a piece of paper, here's my contract. If
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I leave to another team, I owe you a million
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and then you go to court to get.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Out of that.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: This is crap.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: This is stupid.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Now, it's stupid.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know how this is fixed anytime soon. Like
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: everybody says, oh, well, the players need a union. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: don't think the players want to do anything. They're reaping
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: all the benefits right now exactly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Oh well, you know you gotta you gotta make these
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: players sign contracts. Well they are, and they're getting on
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: with it. Not only are there sounding contracts and they're
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: they're they're just they're hiring attorneys.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I would hate that if I was twenty years old now,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I'd like to be making a few million bucks. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: that seems like a giant headache.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, let me ask you guys this regarding this
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Soorsby case. Are you on Cincinnati side or Sworsby side.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm on Cincinnati side, me too. That's the bs.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It's in your contract.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: As a guy who I've seen sores be live and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: in person, I talked about I mean, you're a Soresby guy.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: How many times did we lay it down on the
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Bearcats and sores By this past year and how many
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: times did they come through plenty? That's a bunch of
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: bunk man. If you're getting paid to go someplace else
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: and there's a buy out, you pay it. You paid for.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Representatives labeled the lawsuit misguided, noting that he earned only
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars from Cincinnati in
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Oh, by the way, there's a trade that
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: happened for the Rockies this offseason. They traded a relief
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: pitcher for a guy who was kind of stuck in
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a log jam with the Yankees at first base. His
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: name is TJ. Rumfield. Well, TJ. Rumfield slam slammed a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: couple of homers yesterday and spring training, as did Mickey
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Moniak and Zeke Tovar. Everybody's getting in on the action.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And I think this guy might be your first baseman.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: They've tried with a few different dudes, so they tried
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: with Tollya the last couple of years.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Didn't work.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I think this guy's gonna be it. Two for two,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: two dogs yesterday. There's your spring training update from the Rocket.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I know TJ.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Rumfield, I know, I know it's my job to be
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the hater. No, just to at TJ. Rubstiel is gonna
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: be the first.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: It's not Donald Rumsfield, It's not.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: RUMs Whatever, Rumfield, Humfield, Bumfield, Stumfield.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: How's this one that?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Let me? Let me? Can I just look? I know
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: it's my job. Why is it so incredibly difficult for
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: me to pay attention right now to the Rockies?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Why they're terrible in its spring training?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: But dude, I enjoy the I enjoy There are guys
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: in that team that I like.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep giving you, guys three minutes of rocky stuff.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Gonna do it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I welcome it. I need you to keep me educated
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: because I'm ashamed of myself annoying. I can't name more
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: than five players, and I shouldn't most. Let's see you
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and I go through the roster, all right, well, Ezekiel
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: to Ezekiel, to.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Dal Friedland, Hunter Goodman behind.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Come on, Uh Carros's kid, Yeah yeah, Caros, Kyle Carros.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: He wants to be a really nice third baseman. Just
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: mentioned Mickey Moniac Micky Doyle. How old is Mickey Moniac?
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, he's not that old? I mean, are you sure
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: he's twenty seven? Dude, feels like Mickey Moniac is a
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: good player, By the way, I like him. The center fielder.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: The center fielder who said Brenton Doyle. Brent Doyle Doyle.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So all these names you bring it up. I know
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: all the names, but they're not top of mine names.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I get it. It's also not quite baseball season, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just a nerd. A couple other things. Oh, by
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the way, most have you ever seen a goalie get
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: pulled in a tie game in the third area. I've
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: never not because not because of non injury. No, I've
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: never seen it. That's what happened in Edmonton atrist and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Jarry last night, as he is absolutely miserable since being
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: traded to Edmonton and their goaltending before that was terrible.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: If you want to see how Connor McDavid sounds after
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: resigning that small, eaty bitty contract extension, here's what it
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: sounds like for economy David.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: This is a hard question, but you know Stanley Cupps
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: found Gretzky and Crosby and those guys and gold medals,
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: and you've been in put yourself in position and it's
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: not fine in it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: Did you think it would be this hard? That's a
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: nice question, Thank you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: He's going to set a nuke off in that place.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Listen, you've been a bridesmaid a lot. Nobody wants to
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: put a ring on it. Did you think you would
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: be this hard?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: That's a nice question. My follow old question would have
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: been what did you think about that stuffed animal? You
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: received a nice question, thank you.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Let me continue with an Oh, by the way, this
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: is for one Victorio Giuseppe Rocco Lombardi. The gold medal
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: game between USA and Canada averaged twenty six million viewers
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: on NBC in the Pacas.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Saw that it was at at six am Denver time.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Five am time.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You didn't watch sporting event before nine am Eastern ever
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: in the history of television.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Three am Hawaiian time.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Dude. If I was in Hawaii, I and I had
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I dude, I'd be on the beach at three am,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: letting the waves lap in my feet, watching hockey with
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a poldie. How awesome would that be? We didn't think
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: this pretty great. We didn't think this through. Boys should
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: have done it. We didn't think it through.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: To be fair, I was literally during that. We were
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: just talking last week mosture about going to Porto Viarta
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to do a show and then thank god we didn't
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: be in some trouble there. Right now, Avic sixteen years ago?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: The Olympics was it sixteen years ago?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah? The Olympics in Vancouver. I'm in Hawaii, last time
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I was there in the first time.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: In Let's go and speed this one up.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read to pick up the pace your motion.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, Brett, I ran into so many NHL players
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: there during the Olympic, Like that is where they go? What?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't Benmark go there? Went to Hawaii?
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you're dude, dude, do dude? Do? I mean?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: It was cool one more?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's one of my favorite games. It's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: called the Feud.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: What is Draymond do it?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: You see this video, Draymond. This is on DeAndre Jordan
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: from a couple nights ago. This is just them trying
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to get a rebound. He just jumps on him piggyback style.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: What what is he doing?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: What is he doing? I've never seen anything like that
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in my life. Literally jumps on him like a piggyback
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and DeAndre Jordan's turned around like.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Dude, why what is that?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I know it's crazy.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Dude, he just jumped on him. Yeah, like a piggyback.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: That's why it's my favorite game. What is Draymond doing?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Don't mess with the game, right, don't mess with the
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Seeing the Golden State you right now, Draymond played in
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that game. The Nuggets lost to a Golden State team
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: without Draymond, Curry, Porzingis and Jimmy Yeah, I did happen again?
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I I don't even talk about I was so few
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Sunday was I was furious, furious Jeff Lagwell, you're gonna
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: join us at nine to twenty this morning.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Also at that time your final keyword of the day
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: when we return.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: One last thing. Did you see that the NBA is
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: sending independent doctors to go check out laur Markinen? Yeah?
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: What when the league starts to go full on? This
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: is getting done a really weird path.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Most your boy, Yusuf Nurkic has a fake nose problem.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I know, dude, Well he's out for the year. Why
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: sleep Appnan.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: We went through that Vic. You can't believe how far
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: back into the human head you can go through a nose.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: If you could go to any human body and say
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: we need to perform some invasive procedure and you're going
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: to be out for a while, any human body. Look
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: at Nelly's body, Nell, he's got multiple couple of reasons
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: get in there and get invasive.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where's that flute, Ellie.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: That's why the contenders go to QC Kinetics, no invasive surgery.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Also, as we roll on, yeah, I know we're getting there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to prove to you how then how the
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: tunes can make a difference. It's gonna be special for
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: everyone involved, including the listening audience.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Back after this