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5-05-26 Hour 1 - Avs vs Wild Game 2 preview/CB was playing hurt/Awkward media exchange in Toronto · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Over under fourteen and a half goals tonight, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: look a little bit different. It should. But as far
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  Speaker 2: as importance, I mean this game tonight, you can hear
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  Speaker 2: it right here Altitude Sports Radio six o'clock with five
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  Speaker 2: point thirty pre game.
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  Speaker 3: You know what that was like? You know Game one
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  Speaker 3: is like I have the perfect analogy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell me I think I got I think I
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  Speaker 2: got one. I will see which one's better. Moji, you'd
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  Speaker 2: be the judge.
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  Speaker 3: Let's all come up with analogies. This is what it was.
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  Speaker 4: It's like somebody spending the entire winter in the north,
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  Speaker 4: right winter months where you don't see the sun, and
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you go on vacation. You're like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna see some sun and you lay out every
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  Speaker 4: single day and just soak in the sun and burn
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  Speaker 4: the crap out of yourself because you just can't get
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  Speaker 4: enough of it because you haven't seen it. Then the
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  Speaker 4: Avs had to go through that La King series without
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  Speaker 4: seeing open ice because the Kings shrunk the ice, took
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  Speaker 4: all the fun out of the game, defended everything, didn't
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  Speaker 4: even play hockey. And all of a sudden they get
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  Speaker 4: to this Minnesota first game and they see open ice
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  Speaker 4: and they can't help themselves.
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  Speaker 3: They last kind of it. Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, how is his analogy.
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  Speaker 3: I'd say it's probably about a six and a half,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a seven.
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  Speaker 4: I care about my skin. I care about being all
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  Speaker 4: of complexed. I'm not white as white as you are.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not translucent.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not a choice, it's a birth defect.
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  Speaker 3: Vic I think about Brett wintertime, no beer, no nothing right.
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  Speaker 3: And then he goes with his wife on one of
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  Speaker 3: her company deals. He gets to go down in Mexico. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and he becomes as red as a lobster, and he
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  Speaker 3: drinks every margarita and mohedo that he could possibly find,
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  Speaker 3: and he's passed out by noon.
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  Speaker 2: He got that sugar bloat when I go to Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's what that that's bred Kane on vacation in Kanka.
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  Speaker 5: It makes it through, but he sort of regrets. I
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  Speaker 5: have no regrets. I don't care at all. Give us
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  Speaker 5: your crap analogy.
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  Speaker 4: You probably already mentioned the appetizer, but it's not gonna
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  Speaker 4: hold water to what we just gave the people.
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  Speaker 2: You're hungry, You're really hungry. You've been dieting forever. That's
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  Speaker 2: what the La King series is. You're in a diet,
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  Speaker 2: no carbs, nothing, and then you're like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: Let's take the family to Applebee's. I've hit my my
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  Speaker 2: goal weight and you order that burger that's sliced in
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  Speaker 2: half and dipped in that cheese. He's the commercial that
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  Speaker 2: you see all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I'm like, I would mow that, but it's it
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  Speaker 3: was too much.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're like, this is way too much. I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm hungry, but this is way too much. That's
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  Speaker 2: my analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So let's go on a scale of one to ten.
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  Speaker 3: What would you give that one? I like them both.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I can eat a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 3: Let's leave it up to the listeners. If you would
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  Speaker 3: never eat that burger in a billion, let's leave it
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  Speaker 3: up to the listeners and viewers. It's all about what
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  Speaker 3: you want in life. I want yes, Yes, Whose analogy
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  Speaker 3: was better? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: The sun analogy, the beer Mexico analogy, or the food analogy.
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  Speaker 2: The burger, the burger that's literally served in a full
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  Speaker 2: of melted cheese.
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  Speaker 4: All Right, if you've ever been sunburned because you haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen the sun, my analogy is easy.
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  Speaker 3: I've just yeah, I've got a great one that I
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  Speaker 3: can't see on the air. I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 3: But let's just go ahead and get involved. Springer in
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  Speaker 3: the bunny ridge. But it's twenty grand, but it's just
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  Speaker 3: oh boy, okay, so three over mine never never never
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  Speaker 3: never never never mind three oh three, five oh four
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  Speaker 3: nine two five Who had the best analogy?
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  Speaker 2: Kane moj Vic who had the best one? So let
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  Speaker 2: those sort of tally in. Now to the actual game tonight,
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  Speaker 2: Moje and Nellie, I want you to keep keep a
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  Speaker 2: running tally on who's who's got the who's the winner here, who.
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  Speaker 3: Got the most votes?
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  Speaker 2: So it's going to be much different than what Game
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  Speaker 2: one was.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we all know it.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember, this is what mccarr said after the game.
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  Speaker 6: Just the weird game. Obviously coming from the last few
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  Speaker 6: games we played. It was really tight up there. It
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  Speaker 6: felt like did not work generating a lot, and today
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  Speaker 6: it just felt a little bit more open, and sometimes
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  Speaker 6: that can be a tendency to kind of lack a
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  Speaker 6: little bit on the defensive side. And I feel like
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  Speaker 6: on both sides of the teams it happened a little
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  Speaker 6: bit tonight, and I don't think we're going to see
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  Speaker 6: that again. I think it just one off. I like
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  Speaker 6: that we were able to stick with it and find
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  Speaker 6: a way to win, obviously.
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  Speaker 7: In a unique way.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just a one off.
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  Speaker 3: But you might not see that in avalanche chockey in
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  Speaker 3: your lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidd at a playoff game again.
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  Speaker 3: It's already the most ever scored against Minnesota. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: already almost the most you've ever scored. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: you're not gonna see that again.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's crazy a game in which a goalie
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  Speaker 4: gives up eight of them nine total, and the general
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  Speaker 4: reaction is, yeah, I'm gonna throw him out there again,
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  Speaker 4: because it really, in any other situation, a goalie gives
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  Speaker 4: up eight, he's not gonna see the ice of the
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  Speaker 4: next game. But in this situation, I'd be shocked if
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  Speaker 4: it's not Wallstead again, wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would be. What's interesting though, By the way,
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  Speaker 3: can we make a decision.
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  Speaker 2: Is it wallstett volstett What are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: It's volstett ball with a V wallstetat I ain't doing it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then you do whatever you gotta do. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't care. I mean Bedsie's all over za or off. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean whatever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean if you want to do the V in
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  Speaker 4: W and all that, and you're a fine. But once
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  Speaker 4: you cross here, man, your w's a w.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we need to start saying neck cash too. If
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  Speaker 2: that's what the coach says, then you go by what
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  Speaker 2: the coach says. He's in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Neck cash.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, mos, continue, Well, that's that's I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that's Oh that was it. I think that you
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  Speaker 3: won't shoot. Yeah, you're not gonna see that again.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite spotbusters. By the way, is
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  Speaker 2: what were you gonna say?
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  Speaker 3: Me? Oh? Nothing? Zero kind of leash?
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  Speaker 4: Will they give vols debt and I'll gave you the
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  Speaker 4: v there considering that their backup well was their number
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  Speaker 4: one and he's got playoff experience, Like what two goals
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  Speaker 4: three goals.
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  Speaker 3: In the first What if it's three nothing to me?
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like a John Hines question. To be honest
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  Speaker 3: with you, I mean that's I I'm asking you for
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  Speaker 3: your opinion. Well, but my opinion would be, yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not just that he gives up goals, it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: how is he giving them up? Is he missing them?
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  Speaker 3: Is the scorting through him?
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  Speaker 4: What if it's the exact same start you saw in
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  Speaker 4: Game one, three goals in the first, the way they
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  Speaker 4: happened in a span of two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm guessing that Hines, I think he had a feel
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  Speaker 3: vic that his team was going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: put some on the Avs too, because it was so
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  Speaker 3: wide open. I think he's going to get a feel
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  Speaker 3: that things are going to be tight or going the
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  Speaker 3: other way. He'd probably yank him Yankee. Do don't want
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  Speaker 3: the town riding on a pony.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a I think there's just a level
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  Speaker 2: that this game's gonna reach. Bednar mentioned it post game
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  Speaker 2: that they were a little bit soft at times. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you touched the puck in that series against LA
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  Speaker 2: you were getting blown up by somebody, and that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: happening on either side in Game one.
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  Speaker 3: Really, if you thought about touching the pucks. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: were getting hit. I mean LA had considered this. Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: had twenty four hits in the game, and they seemed
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  Speaker 3: like I mean, it seemed like they were hitting right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we remember the big ones too, including the
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  Speaker 3: Folino hit him, maccarr and so on. The Kicks had
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  Speaker 3: games with fifty hit Yeah, more than double, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's gonna get amped up for fifty game tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty two hits in the game and you're like, are
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  Speaker 3: you serial?
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  Speaker 2: I also think that there's gonna be a desperation here
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  Speaker 2: from Minnesota. I actually heard Ryan Whitney was talking about this.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, imagine this, You're facing the favorite to win
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  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup. They jump out three to nothing lead
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  Speaker 2: right out of the gates in the first period against you.
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  Speaker 2: Then you battle your way back to take the lead
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  Speaker 2: in that game, only to lose by three goals. That's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a huge dash to your confidence, being like,
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  Speaker 2: we battled all the way back and it still wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 3: I don't look at it that way.
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  Speaker 4: I think they showed enough resolve mid game to battle
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  Speaker 4: back from that deficit, and they've already captured my respect.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, how can you not expect more
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  Speaker 4: out of the Wild. They showed it mid game that
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  Speaker 4: even if three to nothing lead wasn't enough. So you
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  Speaker 4: better be wary of this team totally. And I know
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  Speaker 4: the Avs are. You better remember they were down two
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  Speaker 4: to one to the Stars in one three straight.
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  Speaker 2: No what all I was mentioning the purpose in that was,
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  Speaker 2: I think they know if they're going back to Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: down two knowing that they need to pull both games
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  Speaker 2: at home over the weekend or I guess Saturday and Monday,
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  Speaker 2: that's just a lot of pressure to deal with.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, that's what I think the despiration level will.
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  Speaker 4: We'll stew toward the Wild tonight. Yeah, I mean that's
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  Speaker 4: that's safe. Hey, most you mentioned the physicality and the hits.
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  Speaker 4: This wasn't necessarily hit, although somebody got hit in the face.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see the video that's making the rounds? And
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  Speaker 4: I didn't notice it during the game where Hartman grabbed
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  Speaker 4: mccarr's arm and mccarf answered.
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  Speaker 3: With a quick joke. I saw it in real time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And when I saw immediately, I saw I saw him
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  Speaker 3: holding onto Cale's right arm, and Cale got his arm
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  Speaker 3: free and punched his face. I saw the referee immediately,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm on the other end of the ice, but
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of watching those guys. I was watching
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  Speaker 3: them actually battle up the boards and he goes boom.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, both of you. They both ended up in
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  Speaker 3: the box. Hey, you're both going and I saw I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's a hold. Wow, and that's a rough Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: saw it in real time.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just asking again, please help me. What is
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  Speaker 4: the proper response when somebody does that, keeps grabbing.
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  Speaker 3: I won't let you go. You won't let you get
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  Speaker 3: out of your own zone. You're trying to supposed to
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  Speaker 3: do punch him in the face. Yeah, that's what I say.
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  Speaker 3: That's appropriate.
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  Speaker 4: I made that comment and already, oh that's just a
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  Speaker 4: cheap shot. First of all, cal mccarr is anything but cheap.
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  Speaker 4: And anybody knows this. He's one of the few players
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  Speaker 4: who's ever admitted he did not commit a penalty.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, but in this moment in.
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  Speaker 4: The playoffs, anything goes you grab my arm, you keep
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  Speaker 4: doing it, I'm gonna pop you in the face.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff gets grabbed. Right, Here's the thing what I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to get at. If you're in the postseason, your stuff
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  Speaker 3: is going to get grabbed. A lot of grabbing going on,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of punching going on, a lot of pulling
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  Speaker 3: going on, all kinds of stuff going on. Stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So just to check for the record in that postseason,
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  Speaker 4: do you have any issue with his reaction?
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  Speaker 3: I have zero, But I also I did allow myself
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  Speaker 3: and this is my own fault. This is how I
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  Speaker 3: make myself a dumber human. I'm sure I do it
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  Speaker 3: in a number of different ways, but this is one
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  Speaker 3: of them. I looked at the mentions on Vick's tweet
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  Speaker 3: and you have the biggest trolls in the planet, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 3: something else man through the planet coming after Vic and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, this person's dumb. Well, this guy is
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  Speaker 3: an idiot. This is a loser. This is absolutely Mom's
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  Speaker 3: basement dwellings.
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  Speaker 4: Something's going on in the back where they lose all
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  Speaker 4: concept of reality a great like.
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  Speaker 3: Do you understand that these are the playoffs?
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  Speaker 4: And even going back to the t Wolves Nuggets series,
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  Speaker 4: do you understand all I wanted was physicality back That's
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  Speaker 4: all I wanted, and I want it here now. It's
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  Speaker 4: part of the this is where we are.
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  Speaker 3: If you're if you're grabbing on and you're you're what, Brett,
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  Speaker 3: if you didn't see the play. They're coming from the
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  Speaker 3: corner and Hartman's got a car's right arm pinned against
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  Speaker 3: his body hard and he's holding it like this is
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  Speaker 3: Cale's trying to pull it free and get a bice.
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  Speaker 3: He finally says enough and he turns and he does this,
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  Speaker 3: pulls his arm out and punches him in the face,
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  Speaker 3: and Hartman goes down like a sack of what cement.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I haven't read the replies yet, and now
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  Speaker 2: I'm you haven't won. I haven't read the replies to
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  Speaker 2: his tweet yet, and now I'm just, oh, what do
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  Speaker 2: you see? I'm gonna be stuck here for a good
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes. This is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Oh now you're now you're seeing these are the absolute
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  Speaker 3: dregs of society.
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  Speaker 2: So you're weird and objectively a bad representative of the sport.
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  Speaker 4: Noah, Someone says, these are supposed all right, So Minnesota
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  Speaker 4: fashions itself as the hockey center of the American.
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  Speaker 2: Why am I not coming from a pos like yourself?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that person's not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of those personal shots are
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  Speaker 4: fine and warranted, but you like cheap shots. Imagine if
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  Speaker 4: Felino did this. Oh, give me a break. Get you
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  Speaker 4: guys in Minnesota. Man, you're unbelievable. You really are. You're unbelievable. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: let's just come to reality. The hockey universe starts here
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  Speaker 4: in Denver, where the du Pioneers win all the time
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  Speaker 4: and the Colorado Avalanche win more than your team does.
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  Speaker 4: This is where the hockey center of the universe is here,
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  Speaker 4: and as soon as you accept that, you'll be able
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  Speaker 4: to relay your message with a little more efficiency.
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  Speaker 3: I hate these commentators, broke, I just like this one.
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  Speaker 2: He calls you a name in the middle of it
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  Speaker 2: that I can't say, but he just goes, not this
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  Speaker 2: guy again. It's like your your beetlejuice to these people.
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  Speaker 3: Wait he said what now.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say the word he threw in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of it, but he basically said, not visit again.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I haves fans blanking about Felino's perfectly clean
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  Speaker 4: hit on a car and then hyping up this.
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  Speaker 3: No word nobody nobody was saying. Nobody was saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: that was a totally clean The haves fans we we're
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  Speaker 3: whining about the hit. Would you you find no? No,
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  Speaker 3: it was a fair hit. It was a good hit.
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  Speaker 3: It guess what. Guess what? When you get hit, get
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  Speaker 3: ready to get hit yourself.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys want to get in the building for
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  Speaker 2: game two tonight, you're in luck because we have a
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  Speaker 2: pair of tickets we're giving away. We're doing the keyword
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  Speaker 2: thing every hour on the twenties. Pay attention to that
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  Speaker 2: keyword keyword for a shot to get you in the
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  Speaker 2: building for game two tonight.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all things to Papa Murphy's.
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  Speaker 2: It's also a ten dollars Tuesday, So if you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for dinner, head over to papamurphys dot com. Any large
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  Speaker 2: pizza is just ten bucks. Nelly, did you do the tally?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, who won our analogy off?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: It was a It was neck and neck between you
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  Speaker 4: and Mosh for the most part, with vic it up
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  Speaker 4: the rear, but Cain, maybe you had a slight edge
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  Speaker 4: like it asked a decisive decision.
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  Speaker 2: Though I did say somebody said this, I would say
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  Speaker 2: the food analogy, but Bunny Ranch was one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: See here's the thing. Even though I don't give the
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  Speaker 3: actual details. When I just say Springer and twenty g's
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  Speaker 3: and that, then people they fill in their own blanks.
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  Speaker 3: And it can sometimes be more entertaining and engaging to
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  Speaker 3: fill in your own blank. But it's not fair, because
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  Speaker 3: that's why that's why reading. See vic, let me help
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  Speaker 3: you out, Let me help bread out, Brett, you don't read.
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  Speaker 3: This is why reading a book an actual book and
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  Speaker 3: not just whatever the crossword puzzle. This is why, this
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  Speaker 3: is why reading is so exciting, because you build the
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  Speaker 3: picture in your own mind.
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  Speaker 2: Did you just try and say you have such far
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  Speaker 2: superior intelligence than I do because I read, because you
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  Speaker 2: may a Bunny Ranch reference?
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you're trying to tell me? For brain Moser,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't got tom to being distracted by your worthless
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  Speaker 2: Hang on a second. I'm gonna give you the keyword
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  Speaker 2: vic impression? Because I've been working on it. I feel
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  Speaker 3: You're ready you want to go out? Like that? Pretty good?
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  Speaker 2: It?
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  Speaker 3: Really wasn't that good? No?
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• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I brought myself to do this. This
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: is difficult to do.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pat myself on the back for a second.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Very hard for me in my personality.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Who do you think I am? I am?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: But I did force myself to watch the t Wolves
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: game last night, and it was a very good game.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Oh why'd you have to force yourself? Because Vic, it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: still too fresh of a wound.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Part of me doesn't want to watch basketball right now
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: because it just kind of makes me mad that the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Nuggets aren't in it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But I watched.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: And Minnesota, congratulations, you watched sports last night instead of
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  Speaker 4: Magrid or whatever the hell that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Is magrid that I'm saying.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It's a difficult thing as a fan of a team
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: when your team gets eliminated to continue to watch stuff.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: If the Avs got eliminated in the first round, I'd
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: have a hard time watching now.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And it does hurt.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: But let me ask you, and I'll ask all Nuggets fans.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Clearly you wanted them at first. As I was watching this,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: and this is how my this is like a thick
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: of personality disorder. I wanted Minnesota to lose by one hundred,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: right because you're angry. You're angry.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But as the game war.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: On, and as I watched the fight that Minnesota showed
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: from Anthony Edwards coming back from an injury, unreal.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: That's a four to six week injury.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: That he's back there, you know, one of their best
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: subs still not playing because he's got the CAF issue.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Finding dudes who barely played in the first series and contributing.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I'm beginning and I can't believe I'm saying this. By
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: the end of the game, I was like, you know what,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: grow up, Vic.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: That team is playing with heart. I kind of hate that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I felt the same.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: That team is playing with something that your team played
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: with two years ago when they won it. All and
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: it's a unity, and it's a feistiness, and it's a poise,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and it's a resiliency that only comes around so often.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: And by the end of the night, I started at
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I want Minnesota to lose by one hundred to two.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, good on Minnesota. Good on them. They just prove
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: that they're.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: The more physically and mentally stable team. They're stronger in
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: both categories, stronger than most, and they proved it again
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: last night.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Boys, it's really impressive. Like I don't know how else
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to put it. The Spurs are really good. And they
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: went in Game one and they won in San Antonio,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and not just that, they held victor win. Then I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to five of seventeen from the floor. Now, when Y'ama
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: did get a triple double with twelve blocks last night,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that was a thing that happened. Now a lot of
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: those I couldn't believe the amount of goaltends that they
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: were missing in that game. But the point is this,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: they go out and do that, and I got really
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: angry at night. And here's why. As I'm watching that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: game and night, yes, because as I'm watching that game,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm reading an article in the Denver Post from Bennett
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the random what the article was.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Moses, what's up?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Christian Brown heard his left calf early in the Nuggets
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: t Wolve series.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Her sources.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Between that and his ankle, he struggled to get off
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the ground in the playoffs. He still knows the reality
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of the new contract. Quote, expectations are higher and I
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: need to be better. He took full accountability. This is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: not about Christian Brown. Here's why I'm mad. Last year
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and around this exact same time, I watched a Game
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: seven in Oklahoma in which your team lost because you
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: had one guy who couldn't raise his arm above his shoulder,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: another guy playing on a Grade two hamstring strain, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook reportedly had a broken hand in that series.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Playing through it, You then allocated all resources in the offseason,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: after making major changes to make sure that was never
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: gonna happen again, you went out and you said, this
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is about depth. We're going to trade a core piece
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and Michael Porter Junior for Cam Johnson. That allows us
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to go out and get other players. And in this
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: playoffs you still played an injured Aaron Gordon and you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: played an injured Christian Brown and didn't use your death
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and what was the point of the offseason.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Then apparently the injury wasn't bad enough not to play, so.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: He looked unplayable at times, though Dick.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I understand that, but he played. And that's on everybody involved.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: If the injury is that bad and you can't explode,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: then you shouldn't play. Because your Minnesota had injuries too,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: they played other players.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the dunk early in the series where
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: he barely got over the rim And I.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Was like, what is that like?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Christian Brown doesn't barely dunk the basketball?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And I think you can pinpoint it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: His first couple of games of the series most weren't
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: bad well, so he had twelve points on thirty six
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: minutes in Game one, sixteen on thirty five minutes in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Game two.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Then it was two, eight, nine and three. So it
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: was clearly aggravated because he went along. I wish I
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: hadn't known that. Well.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I know for a fact that his injury that he
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: suffered in January, well actually he suffered it early in
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: the season, tried to come back in January.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Ankle. It the ankle.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: It's far worse than anybody expected, and it's probably a
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: year long rehab.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Of recovery.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: He's gonna have to work during the summer, so he
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: wasn't himself just based on that injury.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I know that for a fact. That's a fact.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Now, if there's something beyond that injury and he played,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: then that's a problem because you're right, You're totally right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: You go through December, and I can't come to terms
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: with this. You go ten and six with December with
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a bunch of backups because most of your starters are hurt,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and you shock the NBA really with how well you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: played without Nikole Okisch. You go ten and six without them,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: and those players earned your trust?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Where were they?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Like it is I don't unfathomable to me, even more
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: so now that this, I guess information comes to light
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that Julian Strather was on the bench, Like I can't
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: believe it. If we're looking at Christian Brown, who is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: so hobbled that he is so clearly ineffective in that series,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and Julian Strather gets zero minutes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Well, coaches are inclined to go with players they're comfortable
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: plane And it's not just the Nuggets coaching staff that this.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I'll give you a case in point, and it's happening
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: in real time. The Minnesota Timberwolves in the first four
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: games of their series. Did you ever see Terrence Shannon?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Did you see Terrence Shannon Junior play? But they didn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: have to playing well understood, But he never came off
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the betch until.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: They I get to I did in Game five and six.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: So now that you're watching him play, let me ask you,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: does he come off the court again?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be tough to.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I think he's better than Dante DiVincenzo right now, believe
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: it or not.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I think he gives you more. What doesn't really matter
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: because Devincenzo's gone.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I understand, But this is the point I'm trying to make.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Coaches are inclined to go with veterans they trust in
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. This is not just one. This is all
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: coaching staffs. Happens across the league, and it's part of
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the makeup of the NBA right now. I'm looking at
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: this minute, so to make up. They got a guy
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: in Taren Shannon who gives them something they've never had
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: or haven't had this year. They already have the physicality,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: they've got the length, one of the longest teams in
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: the League.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Now they got the speed.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: This dude goes downhill like nobody on their roster.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: They got all three facets working harden me, and I
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: guess I will concede, even though I don't think I
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: have to. I'll conceede it. Okay, maybe you're being a
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: better person than me. Maybe just because I don't root
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: for Minnesota and I don't give a rats rip whether
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: they beat the Spurs or not, doesn't That doesn't make
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: me a bad person or emotionally challenged, Right, would you
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: agree with that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not rooting for At what point did I said,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I acknowledge and respect that this team is coming together at.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: The right time.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: As a competitor, how can you not respect the way
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: they compete?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I acknowledge that, yes or no, I acknowledge that. You
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: know what they've got, They've got a great deal of unity.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Dogs you you know the you know the kind of
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: dogs there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: They are the dogs that Mark Moser sees in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: window of a car when he's in the grocery, that
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: kind of dog.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Who'd that happened to the other day? But somebody was
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it you? Was it you?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But hang on, hang on to go back to the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: point that I was trying to get at this isn't
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: about Christian Brown.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Does Christian Brown need to play better? Yeah?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But if he's that hurt in trying to play through it,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing I felt about when you know
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Porter was.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Playing with point? What's your point?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Why is the coaching staff, after all resources were used
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in the off season to build depth, not using the depth.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to high You're not going to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: micro manage the coaching staff, are you? I mean from
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: up above you can say what we got your dudes?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Whyren't you playing dudes? Because you hire the coach to
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: coach the team.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not the crunkies, No, no, I I here's can
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I give you a pet on the back for this
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: in this series? And somebody just tweeted, I'm just a
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: couple of texts coming through. Strather didn't play because the defense,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: the offense wasn't the issue.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Dane writes, who is Strather guarding?
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys a question, everybody, What was
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets' biggest deficiency in that Minnesota series?
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Was that offensive defense? They couldn't score? Exactly? It wasn't.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: It wasn't about defense. Actually defensively they were really good defensively.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: They were better than they were last year in the playoffs.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Their defensive metrics came out nicely in this series. They
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: couldn't score. What can Julian Strather do?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: They can put the ball in the bucket. I agree
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: with you. He should have played more. He should have.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I said it during Game six as I'm watching and
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, God, they can use some scoring. I wonder
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: if anybody on that bench can score.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he can.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Hey remember Game six against Oklahoma City. Remember who scored
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: fifteen points in the second half of that game to
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: force a Game seven. That was Julian Strawther. Okay, he
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: might have defensive defensive deficiencies. Yeah, I don't disagree, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: they needed offense, you.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Know what they needed.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: They needed somebody not playing through an injury.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: That's what they needed. Uh.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: The The Nuggets looked old and unathletic and also really
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: hurt like that too, But you had guys who weren't
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: who could have given you energy. Like I know, people
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have some sort of feelings about this. Bones Island was
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a huge energy burst from Minnesota off the bench.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Huge last night.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: You don't love about Strather's game and it's something. Frankly,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Christian is gonna have to find this part of his
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: game and he's gonna have to develop it. The floater
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: that Strawther has when he goes hard to the hole
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: and there's a shop locker in front of him, he
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: floats it up there. I think every NBA player watching
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Minnesota last night, you know, the one underrated aspect of
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: their game and the reason they beat the Spurs. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: they had twelve shots blocked by Wimby. Yeah, okay, that's
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. But you know where they beat the Spurs
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: mid range? How many mid range Julius Randalls shots did
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: you see? How about Jaden McDaniels, the best part of
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: his game. Guy can't shoot threes, but you get him
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: in the lane and you have him pump mid range.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards mid range. They beat you with the mid range.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And guess how the Nuggets won an NBA championship with
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the mid range? How ump the mid range? Everyone in
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: the league needs to start working on the mid range again.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Beck here's my problem though with the Nuggets, and this
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: is where my brain starts to hurt, because I've got
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: a great deal of sympathy empathy, any fee you want
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: to throw on there for the injuries, for Peyton Watson,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: whatever that is, Aaron Gordon who just cannot seem to
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: stay healthy, CB whatever, joker in his wrist. I mean
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: all this. I got a great deal of understanding that
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: injuries happen, body break down, But you also have to
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: make decisions on what because guys are unavailable. You've got
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: to make long term decisions about your team because guys
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: simply cannot play. And if it's a one off, that's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: one thing. But if we're starting to talk about year
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: after year after year, that's where the difficult decisions are
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: going to have to be mad. Which is why this
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: offcasion is so damn critical for this organization.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: It's why this roster is going to change. Uh, if
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: they can make a change, you know you can't. You know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: just because everybody says the Nuggets have to trade guys,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean those trades are going to happen because there
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: has to be a demand and you can't just give
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: guys away. There has to be a demand. You have
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: to get some assets back. But I guarantee they're looking
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: to make some moves. They have to, They have to.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: You can't run this back.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's funny you said something earlier. It's something that's stuck
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: with me. After the Nuggets won the championship, like in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the middle translucent, No, in the middle of them winning
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: an NBA championship, I heard people talking about how they
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: can't shoot the three. They need to shoot more threes, Nigel,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: But they're pretty good inside.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how does it?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Why does it matter how you get your points? If
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you get your points, hey, look.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Up the three point shooting stats of the game five
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: clinching win against Miami. Take a look at what the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Nuggets shot from three in that game.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I think it was it two.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I remember, just something just ridiculously bad.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: But when you can score inside and you can play
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: with the dog and you can fight, it doesn't matter.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And that's what Minnesota's doing, guys. That's what Minnesota's doing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: They're scoring different ways at all of twenty eight.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, five of twenty eight, and you won the game.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: You won the game because you find different ways to
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Reminder to you, guys, if you want in the building
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: for game two, text the keyword potter and your first
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and last name to three zero three five four oh,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: nine to two five back after this, Moser just told
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: me during the break that he has a stat about
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: this series that is going to quote blow my face off.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: O make me gazebo MO crazy, crazy nine to six
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: game on Monday, fourteen different players scored. Sorry, Sunday crazy
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: nine to six game. Sunday. Yeah, I mean you had
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: just a ton of dudes involved. I mean, just insane.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: This better be good. VIC how many Olympians were in
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: that game? All right? Let me think this dressed dressed
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: in uniform, actually had their uniform on. That's a great question. Okay.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: For the Avs there was five correct. Five for the Avalanche.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: The answer seven seven I'm missing, I don't know. Seven
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: for the Avs Rock Sale, Devon Landy Lucky, uh McKinnon
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and uh and uh uh seven oh Marty nachsh okay.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Uh do I count Bill Garren who put together the
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: US team.
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  Speaker 3: No in the uniform?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: All right, so I'll say five for the wild and
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: seven for the F's.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: There were eight for Minnesota. Jesus. Wow. So I mean
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: when you're when you're you're the Avalanche, you got seven Olympians, right,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: You're like, that's pretty good. Oh? They got eight, they
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: got Bold, Well, they got all the US guys Boldy,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Faber and Hughes, right, yeah, they got a bunch of
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Swedish guys. Well they're they're Goldie, Gustavsen, uh Johanssen, volstat
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Stern for Germany. Eric Sineck is injured, right, I mean,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: just there's there's a bunch of dudes all over the place.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna have crazy, wild, no no pun intended
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: wild affairs. Perhaps when these two teams open it up
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: like like they did, that is not going to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the case tonight. These teams are going to be much
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: more responsible to offensively. Vick. I I like your analogy,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: even though it didn't win our little contest. I like
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: your analogy again. It's you uncorked the bottle and all
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: of the champagne came shooting out. Is kind of what
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: happened us. And it's gonna be now. Now, it's gonna
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: be now you're gonna be pouring it into glasses tonight.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Do you see an over adjustment? I mean, will this
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: be one of those two to one games or will
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: it be a little more mild mannered maybe four to three?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Well, Vick, here's what I'm telling you about the Avs
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: philosophy and what Jared Bednar truly wants, and we'll talk
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to him, I think tomorrow.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, I would assume.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: So is that things starting their own end first. They
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: are they They everything that they do offensively theoretically springs
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: from their defensive abilities in their own zone, shutting teams down,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: win the puck battle, quick movement of the puck out
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: of the zone, attack right, and then when you attack,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: be relentless on the attack. But you've got the speed,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: you've got the skill, you've got the ability to get
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: up quickly and launched that attack at the opposition. But
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: you got to take care of your own end first.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: We saw that against the Kings. The Kings were incredibly stingy,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: especially through the neutral zone. They cheated a little bit
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and it was ugly awful. But Minnesota's not going to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: do that because they've got elite scorers as well. So
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: win your battles in your own end and go, go,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: go go. I just I like the Avis ability because
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: of their philosophy, because they were the best defensive team
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: all season long in the National Hockey League, lowest goals
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: against average. I like their ability to adjust to that
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: formula and still spring out of it better than I
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: do the Wilds. That doesn't mean crap, but I like
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: their ability to do that better.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Speaking of something that just blew me away. You know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: we've talked about this before. This is not a very
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: difficult media market. It's not like there's a whole bunch
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of people that are really going to press coaches and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: players here in the way that you would in some
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: other places. This is at an introductory press conference welcoming
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. This is
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the back and forth between a reporter, believe it is,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: who's this reporter.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Knowing he's Steve Simmons, Yes, of the Toronto Sun.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: After John Sheika has been introduced as the new GM
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: of the Maple Leaves.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: Steve Simmons, Toronto's son for Keith. You talk about the
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: due diligence that you did on John prior to hiring
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: him and now hiring him. In the past say three
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: to four days, I have been in contact with about
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: twenty people who work in the National Hockey League, many
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: of whom are prominent names that we would all know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: And of the twenty people I spoke to one was
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: supportive of John's hiring, and the other nineteen thought it
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: was a sham to be perfectly honest. Words were used
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: like con artist, liar, salesman. How did you come to
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: a different conclusion that I was able to come to
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: in a very short time.
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: I must have talked to different people.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: That's it, because in the hockey world today is astounded
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: by this announcement.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: Okay, And your response to that is as we've conducted
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: due diligence, and it was deep due diligence. It was
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: a thorough process, and I'm quite happy with where we've landed.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Wow, you want my immediate reaction. Most youant my immediate reactions,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: would love to hear this, and I haven't done that
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: necessary homework to delve into this.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know this guy. I don't like that reporter.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little too much about him.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like him. I don't like the ar comment.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I don't like So I made the calls. I talked
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: to these I know more than you do. No, you don't.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: If you knew more than he did, you probably be
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: in the business now.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I would assume that one of the twenty people he
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: talked to given that response, motion was probably Shane.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Down you talk, you're talking about Simmons. Yes, I'm sure,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. Probably Jake a thing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It first started when he was in Arizona and Doan,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: who was there for like twenty years, is like, I
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: want to play one more season, even if it's on
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the fourth line. He goes no, right, basically ended his career,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and that pissed off everybody in Arizona, including all the players.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I think you have to realize how much this guy
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: meant to the franchise. Talking about Doan, Yeah, Jacob came
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: in as a twenty six year old running the team.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I mean there are all kinds of twenty six Yeah, listen,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: there are all kinds of stories. I am not provy
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: on a personal level to any of them, but I've
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: heard them all. Here's what I do know about this guy.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Imagine being a forty year old, by the way, just
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: quick aside, forty year old who is entire life to
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: one franchise you would like to face the franchise and
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: a twenty six year old meets you for lunch and goes, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing this, and.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: Then he says, I talk to different people.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he said don't do't was like, hey,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: look and I'd like to help the team something, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I'd like to help the team with my best knowledge
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: and blah blah. They're like, wait, don't eat any of that. Yeah,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: golf courses right, Hey, listen, I got you to time
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: at one thirteen. Okay, I mean that's that's That's just
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: what they said to him.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I I want to talk more about the Q and A.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I think it's laughable. I don't, I don't ridiculous, it's
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: not it's not the time or the place. I don't
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: think it's the time or the place. You're making a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: spectacle out of it. Now. I think the people will VIC,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: people in Toronto and in the hockey world think that
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: this hiring is sort of a spectacle and that that
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: guy took the opportunity to make a spend at the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: time or place.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Michael anyway, I mean, look, I think that that guy,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: what he just did there was very much make it
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: about me thing. I did the research and I can
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: tell you that this move is dead wrong. That's your
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: response to my opinion, Like, I don't see the point
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: of that at A Q and A.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But do you know do you know what this other
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: guy has been through? The guy they hired. January of
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: twenty one, he gets busted by the league, suspended for
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: working in the NHL for the rest of the calendar
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: year conduct detrimental to the league in the game.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: What was that surrounding?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Well, apparently he pursued opportunities with other clubs while he
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: was still under contract us of tampering. Also, the Coyotes
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: apparently held private scouting combines for draft prospects, which are
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: not allowed to do. So why they hire him? Why
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: you have to ask Pale Well, Pelly didn't talk to
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: the same people the other dude did. I guess, I
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: don't know, I Vick, I mean here he is now,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: he's in his early mid thirties. I don't I don't know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: he's still what's What's what's so funny about this is
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: that even being out of the game for five years
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: or whatever it is, and so on and so forth,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: being rehired by the Many Police, he's still the youngest
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: GM in the league.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how young he was back in the day.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: My only contention is this, opinions are formed, but they
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: remain opinions. What your opinion is versus what whoever does
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: the hiring their opinion.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: They differ.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: That doesn't make your opinion better. Now, let's see what
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: happens our opinion. I'll give you an example. What was
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: everybody's opinion when the Nuggets roster was assembled before the season.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: What was everyone's opinion that the best roster the team's
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: ever had. How'd that work out? The opinion that we
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: all shared.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: It didn't. Okay, So is whose fault is that? Now?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Because oh man, hard journalists asked hard questions? Right, Well,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: everyone's opinion was that was a great roster. What was
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: everyone's opinion for the most part, when Russell Wilson you
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: got to Denver?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I knew you were going to go there. I hated it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I remember your opinion. I didn't get's opinions. I thought
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: what I was like, why are we doing this?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Is this real life?
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: He's such a liar. It's just it's hilarious to watch
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: right now? No, not at all. Yeah, well we'll go
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: back and get the table. It'll sound like an idiot
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: because you're a liar. You were against it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Well, you thought it was dumb, You thought your dumb
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: you thought it would work out just the way that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: it did.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: That would be I didn't think it would be that much.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying the guy who said Russell Wilson is
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: going to smoke his old team by one hundred points
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the first game.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but I didn't think. I didn't think they'd
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: have to buy out eighty million bucks worth, That's what
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: That's one thing I did not. I didn't know that
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: he was going to commit and light the world on fire.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I can't I can't believe the delusions you talk yourself
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: into thinking you were always right about stuff. What's the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: other one that you oh, the Lakers series back when
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets, I was so confident that you were scared
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to death like Vick was. I was the only one
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: on the show that was had any like semblance of confidence. Wrong.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: I must have talked to different people.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: That's still that's wild though.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It's it's also really weird that John Chake is just
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: standing there as a guy. It's like, Hey, I just
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: got a new job. Oh what do I do now?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: It was this completely tops the Jerry Jones the Hey.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: You think you think everybody? I can't take a risk
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: for hiring this band.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Here the biggest, biggest.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Risk I've ever taken my life is letting this dumb
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: dumb hold a clipboard.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: So good, so good.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: So many of you though that that that look back
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: in hindsight and we're on board certain things, and then
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: your opinions changed. Guess what cause things change? And that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: what this sport is. That's what all sports is based on.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Wayne talents, opinion. What you think is go, oh, these
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: draft picks are great, but we don't know. We'll find out,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: but it's opinion based stuff.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I can guarantee you Jonah Coleman's going to be awesome.
• 45:20
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