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The Guardian Program - Did Florida Lawmakers Do Enough? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Speaker 1: And here we go. Welcome to the third hour of
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Speaker 1: the Morning Show with Preston Scott Show fifty six fifteen.
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Speaker 1: I am joined by jose Can you see over there
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Speaker 1: in Studio one A, and here in Studio one B
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Speaker 1: by our friend. It's been a minute, as you kids
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Speaker 1: like to say. Charlie Strickling with me from the Talent
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Speaker 1: Training Group. He is the co founder co host of
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Speaker 1: all Things Talent, including Talent Outdoors. How are you.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Yeah, voice is a little scratchy. That's okay,
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Speaker 2: I got I boost you up a little bit, buddy.
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Speaker 2: I drink two cups of the throat Coach stuff you
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Speaker 2: turn me on. Yeah, it helps because I sound better
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Speaker 2: than I did want to woke up this morning.
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Speaker 1: Do you do anything to try to help that stuff
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Speaker 1: taste better? Because it just makes me gag, But it works.
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Speaker 2: I put a little bit of the flavored coffee creamer.
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Speaker 2: I use it, okay with it? Yeah, a little bit
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Speaker 2: of honey honey. Yeah, Yeah it's fine. I mean I
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Speaker 2: like it.
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Speaker 1: It does its job.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's all natural ingredients and stuff, and
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Speaker 2: it makes your throat slippery.
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Speaker 1: I guess nothing like that slippery bark and I don't
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Speaker 1: know licorice root and well what else.
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Speaker 2: I don't you know. I start reading that and I go,
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Speaker 2: I don't that sounds But you know, I used not
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Speaker 2: to be into this uh natural holistic stuff until I
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Speaker 2: started uh studying the the plants that you can eat
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Speaker 2: in your yard. Billy Bailey and Marianna does these classes,
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Speaker 2: and he uh turned me on to a bunch of
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Speaker 2: this stuff. And now I know what what you can
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Speaker 2: go out in your yard and what edibles there are there,
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Speaker 2: and and I mean a lot of people eat edibles,
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Speaker 2: but that's a different story, that's in another world that's
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Speaker 2: medical marijuana stuff. Ain't into all that. I go out
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Speaker 2: of the yard and see what plants. And the thing
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Speaker 2: is that some of these plants you can eat raw, uh,
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Speaker 2: you can cook. I mean there's more, there's more growing
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Speaker 2: around your house that you can't eat than you can't
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Speaker 2: and it's actually pretty good stuff. So now I whant
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Speaker 2: to look at something and it's all natural. I don't
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Speaker 2: care if it's got chemicals in it or something, but
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Speaker 2: it's just kind of cool to know that you can
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Speaker 2: live off of. If the world ended right now, there
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Speaker 2: was an MP blast and everything shut down, and my
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Speaker 2: vehicle wouldn't crank up, which could very well happen, and
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Speaker 2: I had to walk home to Marianna, an hour away,
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Speaker 2: which would turn into a day and a half. I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be hungry when I got there, so especially this
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Speaker 2: time of.
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Speaker 1: Year, because you'd know how to forage.
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Speaker 2: I know how to forage, and I got a gun,
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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna make it other people I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I told you while you were driving in. I want
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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts. I am wholly dissatisfied, though. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a move in the right direction the Florida legislature,
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Speaker 1: and I think the governor signed it in expanding the
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Speaker 1: Guardian program to colleges and universities. I described it on
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Speaker 1: my note here to myself as better but not enough.
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Speaker 2: Well, I agree. I still think that people should be
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Speaker 2: able to be armed in places where there are potential threats.
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Speaker 2: But you know, the Guardian program itself is a good
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Speaker 2: program because they put people through an awful lot of training.
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Speaker 2: I actually have guardians that work for my organization that
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Speaker 2: are in Leonie County schools, and I am a fan
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Speaker 2: of the training that they get. Absolutely. What has happened, though,
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Speaker 2: is last year you brought it up. I didn't provoke
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Speaker 2: this conversation. But the legislature passed the law that pushes
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Speaker 2: all of the training costs for private organizations like mine,
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Speaker 2: the sheriff's offices trainings. We have to pay for that
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Speaker 2: training to put those people into the schools, which is past.
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Speaker 2: We have to then pass that cost along to the schools.
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Speaker 2: And it's upwards of ten thousand dollars per person to
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Speaker 2: train those people, which means that that's an extra six
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Speaker 2: sub eight dollars an hour, you know, we would have
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Speaker 2: to charge, and so it's pretty much sidelined our industry.
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Speaker 2: We're making it more difficult to find those people because
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Speaker 2: a lot of schools don't don't want the pe coach
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Speaker 2: carrying a gun, they want a trained professional. Well, out
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Speaker 2: of that trained professional, costs went through the roof because
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Speaker 2: some what I understand is some sheriff I a sheriff
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Speaker 2: for several sheriffs in South Florida, push the FSA to
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Speaker 2: push some stuff through, and you know they're trying to
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Speaker 2: I guess in their mind that was a smart thing
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Speaker 2: to do to keep private industry out of school safety
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Speaker 2: and security. But in my mind, the more people that
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Speaker 2: are trained and are into schools with guns, the better.
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Speaker 2: But I you know, I see the parent as a
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Speaker 2: parent of an elementary school kid moving to middle school
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Speaker 2: or middle school kid moving to high school next year,
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Speaker 2: and wanted to just graduated. I want the most professional
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Speaker 2: people around my kids with guns as I can. But
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Speaker 2: on a college campus, by its very nature, it is
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Speaker 2: pretty much all adults. Now I want say mature adults,
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Speaker 2: because I was an FSU cop once upon a time
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Speaker 2: and I've arrested a lot of FSU students and FAM
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Speaker 2: students and TCC students. But to take to say, you
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Speaker 2: know a professor who the ones who would carry a
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Speaker 2: gun are fairly level headed, that person or the staff
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Speaker 2: there can't protect themselves, and people coming and going into
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Speaker 2: town like Tallahasset where you have to go on FSU
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Speaker 2: campus at some point in time, you're the driving across it,
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Speaker 2: which you can transport a gun in your car across
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Speaker 2: the FSU campus, even park on FSU campus or any
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Speaker 2: of colleges with the gun in the car, which can't
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Speaker 2: get out walk around right, so you have to leave
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Speaker 2: it there. And is it safer in the cars? It's
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Speaker 2: safer for all youth. But I mean, I struggle with it.
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Speaker 2: I think it should have gone farther.
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Speaker 1: But talking about the expanded Florida Guardian Program expanding into
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Speaker 1: colleges and universities and Charlie, I'm going to say things
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Speaker 1: that you know better than I, but just to reiterate
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Speaker 1: for our audience, you know, elementary schools Guardian program is
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Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. I still think it
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Speaker 1: ought to be more. But the bottom line is that's
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Speaker 1: a very small campus, even a high school, compared to
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Speaker 1: our colleges and universities, which are de facto's cities. They're
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Speaker 1: towns within a town. Yeah, and my concern to here
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Speaker 1: is how do you effectively create a safe environment for
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Speaker 1: students in an open city with multiple with endless points
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Speaker 1: of entry negress.
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Speaker 2: Well, first, let me say that Chief Trumbu has done
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Speaker 2: a fantastic job over there from the incident that happened
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Speaker 2: here over a year ago. Their response, their training. I
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Speaker 2: started my career at FSU Police and those are some
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Speaker 2: of the most highly trained officers around. Because I had
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Speaker 2: half time to get additional training, there's some slow times
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Speaker 2: of the year. Their training program, they're staffing supplemented by
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Speaker 2: all the other agencies around Sarris Offce Police Department of
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Speaker 2: other state agencies. I mean, we're cop heavy in town,
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Speaker 2: so Tallahassee should be a lot safer than it is.
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Speaker 2: But there's also a criminal element. When I was at
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Speaker 2: FSU police that back in the nineties, you know, French
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Speaker 2: Town was right up in amongst it. So we had
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Speaker 2: between the homeless people and we had then the robberies
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Speaker 2: and all this stuff going on. And they didn't want
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Speaker 2: you to talk about it back then because you know,
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Speaker 2: parents want to send their kids here, so we don't
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Speaker 2: talk about these things. At that time. It's FSU, you know,
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Speaker 2: college town. All these things have expanded out into those
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Speaker 2: marginal areas now and so the campus is pushing bigger
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Speaker 2: and bigger and bigger into the community. But what you
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Speaker 2: have to think about it's like, okay, so if you're
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Speaker 2: if you're a teacher, and you're not allowed to have
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Speaker 2: a gun in a school or in a in a
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Speaker 2: in a certain place, then you know that may mean
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Speaker 2: you have to travel to and from without guns. We've
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Speaker 2: talked about this before. Now you can park on campus,
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Speaker 2: but let's say you walk to and from every day
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Speaker 2: to a class and you're having the parking I don't
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Speaker 2: know if it's still atrocious or not. They've added a
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Speaker 2: lot of parking. I just struggle with if my daughter's
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Speaker 2: going and my daughter will probably be here in a
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Speaker 2: couple of years when she finishes Chipola, she will probably
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Speaker 2: end up at FSU, my third one. And you know
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Speaker 2: what am I going to tell her? You know, you've
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Speaker 2: got to walk across campus at odd hours, and I
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Speaker 2: know what goes on in this town, and well.
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Speaker 1: The O four zip code is still the most violent
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Speaker 1: in the community, I believe.
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Speaker 2: Well, and there's cameras, and there's alert system and there's
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Speaker 2: I think they still have the phones used to have
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Speaker 2: blue light phone system.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they have over there, but those
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Speaker 1: are all reactive.
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Speaker 2: They are. But you know, and you mentioned so. But
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Speaker 2: it's the same problem as always we've always had. They
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Speaker 2: did make progress. They did say we can send staff
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Speaker 2: to one hundred and forty plus hours of training and
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Speaker 2: then and only then can certain ones that we approve
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Speaker 2: carry a gun in certain places, okay, at certain times.
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Speaker 2: So it's very limiting, but it is a step in
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Speaker 2: the right direction. They took a step, but it's not enough.
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Speaker 2: But you know, they did move in that direction. I
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Speaker 2: don't know what the next administration is going to be like,
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Speaker 2: so I don't know where we're going to, which direction
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Speaker 2: we're going to go from there. But you know, it's
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Speaker 2: the lady you mentioned that got stabbed and cut situational
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Speaker 2: awareness and we might talk about it that segment. That's
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Speaker 2: what I want to do is and for college students
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Speaker 2: moving around, situational awareness is absolutely key. But that's a
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Speaker 2: time of life when you probably are least aware.
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Speaker 1: A question from a from a listener that was a
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Speaker 1: little inevitable. Please ask Charlie if the burner launcher is
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Speaker 1: legal on campus.
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Speaker 2: You can carry a pepper spray device, and I think Berner.
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Speaker 1: Is here's your challenge though with a burner, because we
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Speaker 1: have them for a couple of people in our family
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Speaker 1: that don't want firearms. The challenge I would see, Charlie
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Speaker 1: is do law enforcement know to distinguish that burner because
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Speaker 1: the burner looks like a firearm.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of burner. I know, I don't
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Speaker 2: recommend anybody to get a burner, but if it's you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're I like them. For I run Attack Team
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Speaker 2: Jackson County, I kind of want one to shoot dogs
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Speaker 2: on search warrants because they work good on dogs. But
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Speaker 2: on a motivated you know, drug addle violent felling, I
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Speaker 2: think it's just gonna make him mad, but it's I
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Speaker 2: guess it's better than nothing.
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Speaker 1: I would recommend they just call the campus campus police, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so if you if you want to
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Speaker 2: carry some of that on campus, yeah, I would call
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Speaker 2: and I would I would check with them and see.
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's legal because it's not a dark
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Speaker 2: firing stun gun I don't think is on campus, but
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Speaker 2: a regular touch type taser would be. I think, uh,
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Speaker 2: pepper spray, I know pepper spray is, but you can't
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Speaker 2: carry a gun. It's there's some there's some nuances to
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Speaker 2: the law. Really prepared to answer to that on a
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Speaker 2: burner because every time I hear Berna, I just kind.
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Speaker 1: Of look the other way it off.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, they have a if I've
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Speaker 2: been shot with enough paintballs, and it's that's what it is,
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Speaker 2: is a paintball with some pepper powder in it. And
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Speaker 2: I've been shot with paintballs and training to the point
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Speaker 2: where I go out that kind of hurt a little
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Speaker 2: bit because you hit a sensitive spot. But other than that,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. The impact doesn't have any effect
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Speaker 2: on anybody. The pepper powder itself can have a respiratory
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Speaker 2: effect if they breathe the powder, but they have to
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Speaker 2: breathe the powder in order for it to have we
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Speaker 2: do they use pepper balls to quell disturbances downtown. If
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Speaker 2: a bunch of kids are in a parking lot, or
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Speaker 2: the people take the field and they don't want them
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Speaker 2: on the field, they got pepper balls to you really
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Speaker 2: think that something they're going to hit college kids with
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Speaker 2: and people hanging out in bar parking lots and McDonald's
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Speaker 2: parking lots on Tennessee Street is really going to stop
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Speaker 2: at if they will shoot those kids with it, it's not
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Speaker 2: going to stop a violent feeling for sure.
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Speaker 1: Well, it is a combo of the pepper, pepper spray
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Speaker 1: and tear gas. It's a combo C.
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Speaker 2: S and OC. Yeah, and the CS is arguably has
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Speaker 2: it's a different, slight different effect. I think you might
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Speaker 2: get a different kind of snot out of it. But
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Speaker 2: it's I've been I've been. I've been exposed to enough
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Speaker 2: CS and OC in my career. We used to intentionally
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Speaker 2: expose ourselves to this stuff, you know, and I put
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Speaker 2: enough of it in houses and going in and done stuff.
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you it's it's it's there again. I
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Speaker 2: mean I I'd carry a really high pressure pellet rifle,
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Speaker 2: and I have probably a better effect if I could
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Speaker 2: shoot with it, you know, shoot him in an eye,
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Speaker 2: you have more of effect, and shoot them. Want to
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Speaker 2: burn of it.
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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of minutes left here. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: about that person though that you know, young girl off
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Speaker 1: to college. You can't carry a firearm. You talked about
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Speaker 1: situational awareness and some other things.
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Speaker 2: The best defense for someone in a situation like that
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Speaker 2: is paying attention to your surroundings. If you're going to
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Speaker 2: go drink and they're going to go drink, is to
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Speaker 2: be with a group of friends. Never be by yourself,
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Speaker 2: and try not to be just with one other person
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Speaker 2: and then be choosing about who you're with and watch
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Speaker 2: each other's backs. But if you're just moving around campus,
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Speaker 2: coming and going, be aware of what's going on around
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Speaker 2: you and don't be afraid to offend someone. We talk
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Speaker 2: about the woman on the subway or the bus that
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Speaker 2: she's by herself. She was by herself mardy train yep,
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Speaker 2: and this guy walks up to her and stands next
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Speaker 2: to her for several moments before he whips out of
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Speaker 2: a knife and cuts her throat and starts stabbing her. Well,
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Speaker 2: you've got you can't be afraid to stand up, look
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Speaker 2: somebody and eye and go I'm sorry. You need to
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Speaker 2: step away from me, you know, and be assertive. Or
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Speaker 2: if you see someone coming towards you, a lot of
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Speaker 2: people go, oh, I'm afraid I'm gonna offend them. They're
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Speaker 2: gonna think I'm discriminatory, I'm racist or whatever. If it's
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Speaker 2: an uncomfortable situation for you, make it known. Leave the situation. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna probably if it's some kid with a phone,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna put you all over. There's a guy here
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Speaker 2: in town that goes to the hardware stores and walks
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Speaker 2: around the film of the guy filming on his phone
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Speaker 2: and walks up in misgenders people on purpose and gets
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Speaker 2: people mad at him because he goes up and calls
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Speaker 2: men miss and princess and things like that in public
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Speaker 2: places just to aggravate them. And you know, eventually he'll
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Speaker 2: get trespassed from the location. But crap like that, So Yeah,
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Speaker 2: if you do something assertive to defend yourself from this
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Speaker 2: day and age, because of these idiots out there, it
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Speaker 2: makes it hard for you to not appear to be
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Speaker 2: a bad guy because you were offended. But I'll run
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Speaker 2: the risk of having a bad reputation if it makes
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Speaker 2: me safe. And I'll tell my young daughter exactly that
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Speaker 2: if something makes you uncomfortable, walk away, get in the car,
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Speaker 2: blow the horn, you know, and if there's weapons that
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Speaker 2: you can carry on you, then carry those weapons. Because
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Speaker 2: there's some little handheld things I love. I love flashlights.
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Speaker 2: I like little pointy things that you can stab with,
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Speaker 2: things like that.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little more about this because
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Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions that have come up
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Speaker 1: as we were chatting. Find a couple of segments here
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Speaker 1: with Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group. That's where
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Speaker 1: you go go to talent Range dot com to get
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Speaker 1: properly trained and take some advanced classes. Charlie, we were
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Speaker 1: talking about the Marta incident just a few days ago
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta where a woman was just tragically stabbed to death,
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Speaker 1: and we were talking in the break sometimes you just
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Speaker 1: don't have a fighting chance if she's alone in that
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Speaker 1: car and the doors closed. She doesn't have a chance
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Speaker 1: against a man with a knife.
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Speaker 2: It's highly it's very difficult. But what would mitigate the situation?
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Speaker 2: And I've asked people, I've asked cops this, I've asked
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Speaker 2: people this. How many fights have you been in? How
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Speaker 2: many times? I can ask a law enforcement officer, how
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Speaker 2: many shootings have you been involved in? How many fights
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Speaker 2: have you been I didn't give you an approximate number,
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Speaker 2: if not exact number. Thirty two years of doing being
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Speaker 2: a cop, I can give you an approximation. I know
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Speaker 2: exactly how many times I was involved in a shooting.
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Speaker 2: I know aroundabout number. But here's what I cannot quantify,
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Speaker 2: and nobody really can. Just how many fights did you
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Speaker 2: avoid because you look squared away, you had a command presence,
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Speaker 2: of command bearing, you used the command voice, You carried
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Speaker 2: yourself with confidence and confidence, and you own the space
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Speaker 2: around you. How many fights did you if you had
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Speaker 2: not done that? How many fights would you have gotten into?
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Speaker 2: How many people would have resisted arrest? How many people
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Speaker 2: would have punched you in the nose? How many fights
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Speaker 2: did you avoid by being good at your job, by
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Speaker 2: paying attention so they don't know that they can't. You
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Speaker 2: never do that, because that's the way you should carry
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Speaker 2: yourself all the time in a first responder setting, whether
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Speaker 2: it be a firefighter or an EMT or whatever, or
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Speaker 2: a nursing in the air. If you walk around and
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Speaker 2: you act like you own the place, the fact is
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Speaker 2: most people will give you that latitude, and well, they obviously.
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Speaker 1: Know what they're doing exactly.
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Speaker 2: And you know that you have an alpha personality, you
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Speaker 2: have this big way about you with the voice, and
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Speaker 2: you know, of course you're not.
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Speaker 1: A little guy either.
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Speaker 2: You're just bigger, bigger. You're bigger than me actually, And
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Speaker 2: so if you and I've talked two women about this constantly.
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Speaker 2: I do this in our active shuter trainings we do
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Speaker 2: and our personal safety classes. If you make eye contact
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Speaker 2: with people. So if he had gotten on that train
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Speaker 2: and started walking towards her, and she looked him in
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Speaker 2: the eye and smiled and said, hey, how are you tonight,
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Speaker 2: she may not have got cut. That's not her fault
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Speaker 2: by any means. But I'm just saying one of the
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Speaker 2: ways you can deflect aggression is by looking at someone,
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Speaker 2: acknowledging them and trying to de escalate that situation. He
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Speaker 2: lord knows what demon was going on, the thing was
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Speaker 2: going on in his head, what demon possessed him at
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Speaker 2: that point in time, And could she have said something,
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Speaker 2: done something, take some sort of action instead of just
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Speaker 2: sitting there staring straight ahead. Because people are bad guys,
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Speaker 2: evil are looking for a victim, They're looking for an
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Speaker 2: easy target. They're looking for something that they can dominate.
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Speaker 2: And if you are not that person, and you see
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Speaker 2: particular women in sales, the people who have worked their
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Speaker 2: way up the chain and banks and businesses and that
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Speaker 2: walk up and look you in the eye and reach
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Speaker 2: out and shake your hand, those people are not often
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Speaker 2: victims of violent crimes because they're a more difficult target.
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Speaker 2: They're harder to target because most bad guys, unless they
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Speaker 2: are intent on killing you like that guy was, most
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Speaker 2: bad guys they don't want to be identified by you
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Speaker 2: when it's time to go to court.
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Speaker 1: So absent having some way of defending yourself with an implement.
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Speaker 1: And I want to talk about that because you tease
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Speaker 1: that just a little bit and started getting onto that
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Speaker 1: some personal engagement might be your best means of trying
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Speaker 1: to avoid a situation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean don't ignore people. If you speak to people, smile,
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Speaker 2: act like. There again, there's a command presence, a command voice,
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Speaker 2: and my voice is terrible right now. But it's the
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Speaker 2: difference between a soft, passive voice and hey, how are
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Speaker 2: you to day? Sure, and hey how are you? You know,
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Speaker 2: it's more assertive. It's like if your kid wouldn't shut
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Speaker 2: up in the theater. You don't yell at them, but
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Speaker 2: you can even do it in a whisper instead of
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Speaker 2: you just shut up. You know. It's it's but that
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Speaker 2: in a public setting is it's just more of a
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Speaker 2: hey how are you today?
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Speaker 1: Are you know?
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Speaker 2: Nice to meet you? You know, just something and it
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Speaker 2: can deflect, but there again you'll never be able to
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Speaker 2: quantify it and then have a backup plan.
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Speaker 1: Forty one minutes past. Final segment with Charlie Strickland of
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Speaker 1: the Talent Training Group. This is our personal defense segment,
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Speaker 1: and again it always revolves around personal situational awareness. Charlie,
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Speaker 1: what are some things that people can do differently about
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Speaker 1: their positioning and maybe even having implements in their hands
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Speaker 1: at their disposal to help.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean a lot of times what you're doing
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Speaker 2: is bluffing. I mean, if I were a lady sitting
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Speaker 2: on a subway or a bus or marta train or whatever,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit somewhere I can see all the way
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Speaker 2: around me. I'm either gonna sit at the end where
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Speaker 2: i can see everything coming at me, or I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: sit in the middle, in the side near a door,
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Speaker 2: where i can see what's coming left and right, and
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Speaker 2: if someone starts approaching me, I'm gonna stand up and
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Speaker 2: get to where I can move. The other thing I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna do is if I don't carry a purse, but
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Speaker 2: if I had a purse or I had a bag,
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Speaker 2: and I will carry like a tactical bag. Sometimes if
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Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable, I would unzi up that thing. I'd
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Speaker 2: stick my hand in it. I might not have anything
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Speaker 2: in it, but I'm gonna stick my hand in there
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Speaker 2: like I do. And then I'm gonna look them in
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Speaker 2: the eye and go, hey, how are you? And you
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Speaker 2: know now all of a sudden they're having to go, okay,
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Speaker 2: it's this the hill I want to die on. It's
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Speaker 2: this the victim for me. And the other thing is
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Speaker 2: to use your other hand and pick up the phone
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Speaker 2: and call nine one one and go would you play
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Speaker 2: on the stay on the phone me for just a minute. Please,
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Speaker 2: at least you know I will tell you. And I've
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Speaker 2: talked to people about this, like walking around Tallahassee. So
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Speaker 2: if you were leaving a restaurant or an office or
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Speaker 2: something after hours, so you walked out of the Governor's Club,
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Speaker 2: you know, a little rich for my blood. But the
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Speaker 2: there's probably a pizza joint down there I can afford.
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Speaker 2: And I'm walking down the street. And I tell people
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Speaker 2: if you're walking, if you're walking down the street and
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Speaker 2: someone is paralleling you, are following you, then pick up
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Speaker 2: your phone and go hello, honey, Hey, yeah, where are
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Speaker 2: you at? Okay, I'll meet you right, I'll meet you
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Speaker 2: right there on the corner. I'll be there. And just
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Speaker 2: to say, okay, yeah, just come on, I'm right here.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't need to know that nobody's talking to you. Sure,
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Speaker 2: but now that person thinks hey, and you can cross
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Speaker 2: the street, or you can turn around and go the
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Speaker 2: other way. You can do whatever. Dip in the closest
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Speaker 2: business you walk out, and you walk out of a
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Speaker 2: business at night and there's someone there that makes you uncomfortable,
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Speaker 2: and to turnround and walk back in and go with you.
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Speaker 2: Please walk me to my car. Come watch me get
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Speaker 2: to my car. I just don't really feel comfortable. But
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Speaker 2: having the thing I love look right here in my pocket.
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Speaker 2: They can't see this. That's a flashlight. Yeah, it is
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Speaker 2: eight forty four on a Wednesday morning and I have
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Speaker 2: a flashlight on. You can put it in my eyes.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna it's not gonna do that. But that's that's yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's several hundred lumens. It's recharged with the USBC rechargeable waterproof.
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Speaker 2: You open that up, you charge it. It's got a
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Speaker 2: pocket clip on it. And when I can carry it
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Speaker 2: in my hand in exactly precisely just like that one,
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Speaker 2: and I can stab. It's got a little bit of
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Speaker 2: an edge on the bowl, and I can stab this
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Speaker 2: into someone's temple or their eye, or the bridge of
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Speaker 2: their nose. And it doesn't take any special fighting technique
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Speaker 2: to do that. Everybody knows how to stab. But if
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Speaker 2: you're you're leaving somewhere it's dark, shine the light around
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Speaker 2: where you're going. Immediately, people who are the thugs of
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Speaker 2: the world, you go. That's not the victim I want,
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Speaker 2: because they're paying attention and they'll identify me and I'll
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Speaker 2: go to prison. Or do they If they've got a flashlight,
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Speaker 2: they may have a gun, or they may have something else.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of something else, Abbey devices anything that sharpened.
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Speaker 1: Tactical pins are actually pretty legit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that we have them on the counter.
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Speaker 2: It's it's you can get them any type of pen
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Speaker 2: that there's the ones that are designed not to be
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Speaker 2: or if you're just going to carry a writing instrument
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Speaker 2: on you. I've got a pin in my pocket and
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Speaker 2: it's it's it's fairly rigid, but I could stab you
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Speaker 2: an eye with it. I could probably with enough forest,
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Speaker 2: get right through your temple. I could certainly stab you
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Speaker 2: in the ear. I'm going to distract you to where
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Speaker 2: you no longer want to bother me. But there are
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Speaker 2: the little sharpie versions that that are not sharpies. They're
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Speaker 2: very sharp, but they don't write on anything. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 2: just out of ink. But the middle of it is
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Speaker 2: my KRTA and it's really and it's and you can
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Speaker 2: stab with it. A pocket knife? Is that a common
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Speaker 2: pocket knife you can have pretty much anywhere. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can't get to a middle detector with it, but
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Speaker 2: anyplace else you can.
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Speaker 1: There are things to do.
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Speaker 2: Pepper spray does work on about half the people. It
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Speaker 2: will cause a pause in combat. So having something like that.
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Speaker 1: Which is about time to get away, that's what that's about.
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Speaker 2: And you can get a taser if you want. You
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Speaker 2: can do some different things. But there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: stuff out there. I would just google self defense devices.
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Speaker 2: Don't fall for any of the gimmicks, but just kind
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Speaker 2: of think about it. But here's the thing. The time
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Speaker 2: to think about that is now, yes, and have a
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Speaker 2: conversation with a family. It is not waiting until somebody
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Speaker 2: makes you uncomfortable. When you start thinking about what is
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Speaker 2: my weapon of opportunity today. It goes the same thing
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Speaker 2: for the office, as goes on your person, as your vehicle,
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Speaker 2: as your home. Look around as you find the things
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Speaker 2: that you can defend yourself and have a plan to
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Speaker 2: use it.
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Yep, good to see again. It's been
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Speaker 1: a while.
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Speaker 2: Glad to be here.
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Charlie Strickland with a talent training group.
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Speaker 1: My guests here Personal defense on the Morning Show with
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Speaker 1: Preston Scott