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Start Me Up: Buzz Burbank · Start Me Up with Kimberley A. Johnson

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Start Me Up podcast part of MSW Media and the sexy liberal podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Kimberly Johnson in DC today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My returning guest is the one, the only buzz burbank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always on the Bob SESCA show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just love buzz around here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're gonna have a good time, but before we get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now please enjoy my conversation with Buzz Burbank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to The Show Buzz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you Kimberly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to be back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's great to be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's been quite a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really happy to have you here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it's always fun talking to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're such a cool man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a fun boy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, you're always, you're always so sweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just have to say, first of all, your wife has the most perfect penmanship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've ever seen in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like her handwriting is like a font.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I married an elementary school teacher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my mother has really nice writing and very, you know, she's she's always been like a bit of a perfectionist, but I got to say Marcia kicks her ass in that department.
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[SPEAKER_02]: almost a collecter for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're always so sweet, too, because you're always asking me like help for gifts for Bob.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so mad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so bad at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel embarrassed, but you get him better gifts than I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never know what to get him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, I give you some ideas too, and I've appreciated your help for sure, and it's hard for someone who has very specific tastes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, if if it's something he has a taste for, he may very well already have it, and if it doesn't have it, he probably thinks it's crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, one time early on in the relationship, I got him, I think it was Spider-Man, I don't remember, but I got him just that it was like, no, he's not, he's not right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just decided, you know what, I don't want to, and my feelings weren't hurt that he didn't really care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, I just don't want to spend the money and the time on getting him something that he doesn't like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's just like, he's hard to buy for as far as I'm concerned, but anyway, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also have the, probably because I have stuff that I know he's interested in, that I have had ownership of for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and sometimes the mutual memories are involved in these items, it's fun to send him that kind of stuff to as, as gift, you know, and also a way to clean out the house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, let's get into some news now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to say that usually when you're on Bob show, you bring the jokes, you bring some lightness, but I think on this show, even though I'm also silly, I don't have all the sound effects and all the specialness that Bob has, but I know you brought some news.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to talk about the news with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that and I did actually prepare some for you see I'm not always Mr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Funny guy or haven't always been Mr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Funny guy and many would argue that I'm still not, but I used to do the news and so because I do the comedy as it were on Bob show I thought to bring this and because there's so much going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we'll have we'll there'll be plenty of joking around as we get to the show, but but for now of the news gas prices first of all are top story national average and this is political okay gas prices the national average now $4 30 cents a gallon house that house that going over in Trump country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess gas is up 12 cents in the last two days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Up seven cents in one day, price is still rising.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oil now over $125 a barrel still rising.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This affects the cost of everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The tomatoes we were buying recently for 99 cents a pound now $3.69 a pound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Meta restaurant tour who says he can't even get tomatoes and this all has to do with transportation and that all has to do with gas prices and that all has to do with Trump's war and Trump's tariffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of the war, the cost of the war now so far, $25 billion at a rate now of about $4 billion per week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in other news, Donald's doover, he's texted on says a written on social media quote of the 2020 presidential election should be wiped from the books and be of no further force or effect and quote, he wants to quote the clear of the 2020 election irreparably compromised and have a new election immediately and quote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to run against Biden.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What does he want to ask?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That work exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the evidence, people continue to argue about the recent alleged assassination attempt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we could talk about how people have handled this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we should talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll first, let's look at the facts the evidence so far, and these were assembled by Dave Troy of America 2.0.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got it off Keith Obermann's show today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my version of the list, so it's going to be a little different, but it's the same facts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First, Cole Allen was one flight up from the ballroom and never even made it down the escalator.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two, he has alleged ammunition was buckshot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three, he'd ever fired a shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For the only shots fired were by secret service for bullets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Five, one secret service officer took friendly fire, and it was stopped by his vest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Five, Cole Allen was not shot, he was tackled in subdued, and six of the security perimeter was never violated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what do we have there exactly, and that's not an argument that it was staged all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything, you know, that we know we saw actually did happen and there was an element of danger to be sure, especially with the secret service poppin off shots upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the facts, as they've been assembled thus far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think before you can have any other kind of discussion about this thing, you have to at least examine the facts at hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was, of course, one of the people who immediately assumed it was staged, and there were a number of things that looked weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when Butler Pennsylvania happened, I immediately assumed it was a legit assassination attempt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't for one second, even entertained the notion that it was staged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why is because Trump is a malignant narcissist, and I just figured,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to put himself, you know, in any kind of a place where he could be shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a guy did get shot a guy could get killed at that, at that event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't mean Trump did, and I see no evidence of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen no evidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I believe it was staged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something is, you know what the, here's one of the biggest tells is that because he is a malignant narcissist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that they just closed that investigation, he would never shut the fuck up about it if, if it were a legit assassination attempt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wouldn't be, it's just, with the 2010 election, he's so upset about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why does he be braving about it exactly?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm not going to say that I regret immediately jumping to that, because it wasn't just me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like almost everybody on the internet didn't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were mocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were laughing at them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Trump fell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't know if you saw that, but he is all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or, or just push down, but he's observant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's just trying to say that he was told to duck, which is, we all know bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it, again, I don't feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just feel like because he is the con man who's cried wolf so much and because he is a con man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the default is to not trust him at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our fairy tales are clashing here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's now the emperor who cried wolf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, overlapping stories here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to all those people who have called for unity,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a moment, and you know, we all have to stop with these conspiracy theories.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, hey, the townspeople are not to blame here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The townspeople are not to blame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not the ones who've been crying wolf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been crying assassination attempt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not the ones who've been beating that drum.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So don't blame us when nothing appears to have come from any of this, and we're a little skeptical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and also, I mean, he's been screaming fake news for like more than a decade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it, you know, I mean, he's he's in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just want to throw out there that not only is this, um, I don't think people really consider this, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been on this like rampage about fake news, legit fake news on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Facebook has no fact checking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's all this bullshit news, whether it's a like right now there's this meme going around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like it's a screenshot from Twitter about Trump saying he had combi arrested, which we will talk about combi in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's it's not real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not see, I cannot see his, uh, what do you call it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: His truth social account.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like, but I know that I know what his profile picture looks like there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is, this looks like the, uh, a Twitter and it's not on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the whole point is there's all these stupid graphics or fake articles going around that aren't really important, you know, it's not like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: disinformation where you're getting disinformation and now you don't know it's just straight up disinformation about all kinds of things whether it's pop culture or politics and ultimately it leads to us not knowing what's real it's part of that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh yeah, it is, and, and you know, I, I never bothered to even follow up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I kind of, I thought it was an opportunity to jump in on the fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I used to, uh, not be aggressive in this manner until I met Bob Cesca, and, uh, he taught me, uh, haha.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I saw this opportunity to 86 this, 86 that, you know, I saw this opportunity to jump on that bandwagon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Be it true or not true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never and ever reposted that picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the important lesson and what you're saying here, and gosh, what we ought to be teaching in school, I guess, is that a meme is not news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can be entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can be enlightening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it may contain facts or it may not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a meme.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not there's no there's no way to verify.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean you can't click on something in a meme and and see if it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one thing you can do though, like, for instance, I'd say, it's like, if you right-click and I know some people are gonna give me shit about this, but I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even know the reason why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're on your laptop, I don't know how it works on the phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just right-click and then you hit search Google Lens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what that does you do that on the picture you hit right click on whatever picture and then it's going to take you to the internet and show you where they have found it so if there is more for it yeah and and if there is a source for it then you would see that this particular tweet this this apparent screenshot of a tweet would have shown up on x which is Twitter and it did not I looked for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, yeah, it's hard sometimes to differentiate, but I've just whether it's an article or or just what somebody's saying it's if you go and in fact check it yourself you find out that there's no source or it's rampant on Facebook and so I think it's yeah and it just brings me back to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, this is the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems almost like it would be harmless to share an article about pop culture and it's not accurate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all these stupid things on my, I have a Facebook page just for family and friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't post it very much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why, but all of a sudden, I'm seeing all these real housewives articles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and I clicked on one because it was, I can't remember who it was, it was a famous person, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like an actor who's on one of those shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and it said she and her husband split up and i'm like really they split up and i looked and they didn't split up so it's just a bunch of it seems like it's an awkward it seems like it's not really that it's always been true of show business i i met a woman a party once and she says what do you do when i said i do the news is all i love the news uh... uh... what's the latest on as uh... car dashing
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I go, oh, oh, oh, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it to her, that's the news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's been show business, as I'm sure you know, that that really took the lead on this, of, of, show business was the first click bait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Before there was anything to click, you know, the show business magazines and stuff, and the show business television shows for that matter to a certain degree, the ones who hadn't been bought out by studios.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they, they, it was all about sensationalism.
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[SPEAKER_02]: TMZ I guess is there are there much more careful though they're actually they actually follow some journalistic principles some right yeah well this stuff on Facebook is just made up it's literally it is it is clickbait it's for engagement and it's so be careful yeah just be careful of what you share
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly, but the problem is, and you know the problem, and it is that we don't know what to believe anymore half the time, and because if somebody throws us something and it seems like it could be, and these days what doesn't seem possible, these days what doesn't seem possible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So even the most outlandish things can pass as credible, credible, if in this atmosphere, and that was the point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the point of creating all this disinformation and intentional confusion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, I'm just basically unfriending people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will get, you know, comment and say, this is not this is fake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can't find it and I try to prove that you can't find it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the most disappointing thing about this is most people either ignore me or they say something like, well, the right does it all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then what you're saying is, well, then I'm gonna be just like the right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how we lose this country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've been pulled down a Donald Trump has pulled us down to the level and and you know we we've gone from Michelle Obama saying when they go low we go high to us now saying when they go low we go low to or you know You know, there's a lot of it's all about tit for tat now literally and and
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a no win, I mean everybody loses in this situation, but this is what we've been lowered to, we have to try to stick to the facts, well that would be maybe a good place to start, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, so question things, educate yourself, investigate the source, always investigate the source.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately so many people don't and basically if you're following me on Facebook and you post something because it looks good and it sounds good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I had posted right after Melania came out and said she wasn't friends with Epstein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were all these fake photographs of her kissing Epstein all over Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It happened almost immediately and everyone started sharing them and when I of course you know like the freaking Facebook police come around and say this is an
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess because the it sounded like I was defending her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm not defending her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just isn't a real picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big picture style posting we there's enough evidence and enough negative crap out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true that we don't rely on lies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just serves the Nazis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish more people would understand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I give people a chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll comment and I'll say, this isn't real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you, you know, can you find a source?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just ignore me or they'll tell me that they're going to leave it up anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just, I can't, I can't, I can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't look in the yard of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so exactly, I'm so tired of that process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the reasons I pursued the 86 thing, it was that I saw it as an opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, I had an extra motivation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I also saw it as an opportunity to try to educate people as to what it really meant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know I'm not the only one doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A number of people have posted the actual meaning and meanings of 86.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it started with me, I wore my 86.47 to have all places of public's grocery store down here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had the customer in front of a turn to start it screaming at me, profanities, insisting that I intended to kill the president.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And because that's what in his mind, that's what 86 men and it's not, it means to reject or to throw away his card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The simplest definition is card, yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if we educate one stupid redneck out of this,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be, it'll be worth, it'll be worth the effort.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Normally, I just, I just don't bother with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But because of that ugly incident that I endured at, at, at, at publics, I'm, I'm extra sensitive to this whole 86 issue, and so, you know, I, it was a chance to, for me, to jump on that bandwagon, and, and maybe educate some people, as I said, in the process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now that we're talking about 86, I mean, we're, we are seeing Donald Trump going nuts over, uh, Komi because he wants, once again, he's going after him and this is ridiculous for some preconceivable saying 86-47 and it's, it's the stupidest thing we've ever seen right, stupidest thing, uh, you know what, I feel like I spend so much of my time focusing on listening to people talking about Trump's health
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how much longer he likely has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I like to listen to Epistemic crisis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember his name now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Epistemic crisis guy, I think, he's on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he was predicting last Thursday was going to be the day, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He thought, basically because he's a doctor who treats patients just like Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, look, he's gone on his way out, whether he's going to die or they're going to, you know, 25th Amendment him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he should have gone with a date because nobody can predict a death or nobody can predict that moment when you can no longer coherently communicate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although, you know, I mean, I know he's building a following and whatnot, but what he does do is he provides us with kind of like
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of a medical perspective, even though he hasn't been in front of Trump and he can't, you know, really see what's going on, he can look at the symptoms and say this is what I see when I'm out in the world with my patients and so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that this whole thing that he, you know, whether it's coal, me or whatever he's doing, he's literally as the doctor has told us in narcissistic collapse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got dementia, he's got Conto Temporal dementia, and I said that right, I never say that right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, he's in narcissistic collapse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so right now, I think he is probably at his most dangerous because he he doesn't fully grasp what's happening, but he's still filled with rage and you know, from what I know is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at least from my own personal experience, people can get really angry and irritated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was already angry and irritated to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like, what's happening with Komi and what's happening with Jimmy Kimmel, as far as the two of his wife and him wanting to pressure ABC to kick him off, we're gonna be seeing more of things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I genuinely believe that
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm never going to try to make any prediction.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just be really quick here that I saw a video of a woman who is some kind of a speech person, speech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she's a speech therapist, but whatever.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: She's speech professional and she was talking about two things that day that Trump did, that thing about the corner store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two things that she noticed were,
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[SPEAKER_00]: his saliva was collecting at a rate much higher than normal because his involuntary swallow reflexes failing him because of that frontal temporal dementia.
21:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on top of it, so she did a whole thing on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she talked about how he said corner store, then he said quarter store, then he again said corner store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she was explaining that patients
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[SPEAKER_00]: like Donald get cognitive tests where they have to go like like t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, there's a name for that.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a medical term for it, which I can't remember.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I did was I went to the internet and, you know, the internet doctor that knows all.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
22:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I basically just said, okay, what is the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like what was the word the term I used, you know, like how long to someone have left with this and I named which she said, his age plus the involuntary swallowing that has been getting worse because like you always go, that's just him sucking his saliva back into his mouth because it's going to fall out.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I said, you know, a man or I didn't even say a man,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And who likely has congestive heart failure, you know, what is their life expectancy?
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And it says about six months.
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know what I mean?
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't really know for sure anything, but I always say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he were my father and I loved him, I would be like, okay, dad's dying.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we don't know when.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: but dad's dying.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So Donald Trump is failing, he's dying, and I think that it's just a matter of time, and we're going to have to go through more of this shit with whether it's James Komi.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what this all brings me to here is, how are you feeling about like, what are you anticipating, providing, you know, with this idea, knowing he's just going to get worse.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to improve.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: His health is not going to improve.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: His brain is not going to improve.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: the result of this atrophenous brain and the, you know, whole narcissists collapse.
24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I say this and I say, you know, I don't want to say like how afraid are you because I don't want to be focused on how we're afraid.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, what do you, like, what do you anticipate?
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that he's going to do some wild and crazy shit or just more stuff that we've been used to?
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's still awful.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, one thing we have to wonder is that what point, you know, how crazy and I don't know how you can get much crazier if he's talking about redoing the 2020 election.
24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: cognitive decline is that forward lean, I think it's one reason he tips over so easily.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I mean, it's not hard for the secret service to push him to the ground.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think just a finger would would probably do it.
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And before we get away from it, on the subject of Kimmel, it's more than just a threat.
25:03
[SPEAKER_02]: The FCC has now given ABC until the end of the month, May 28.
25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: to justify their license renewals that's I think years ahead of schedule and now they have to have it done by the end of the month and so the FCC is actually taking action it's not just talk or that's that's where it is now hopefully this will get stopped but you know then a lot of the dot of the Supreme Court and the story you know where that's going.
25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: as for how afraid them I or I'm a first of all not afraid I think regardless of what happens whether Trump lives past the November election or not and isn't it by the way he's not the the first elected official who's death has been discussed at length of prior to that firm
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, honestly, that's true, you know, I heard this morning also that he, he would be long.
26:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So politicians surrounding him, did nothing but talk about his spending debt.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's not unnatural for that to be discussed.
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think whether he's alive or not after the November election, he will be ineffectual.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that you're right.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he collapses in and JD Vance becomes president, I think he will be in effectual.
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm very confident about America's discussed with what I say the guest with 430 a gallon and rising.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know because really and and for all we scream about fascism and it's true.
26:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Every every word we scream about fascism is true.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: afraid spite of all that the thing that makes the difference is that the price of gas and everything else and the availability of everything else because of the war, that nobody wanted except him because of the tariffs that nobody wanted except him and his billionaire friends.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: The people, so you ask me what happens?
27:12
[SPEAKER_02]: at what point do the people at what point do the people in government what at what point do the people in the streets rise up and say okay today's the day it stops now many of us would argue we've passed a thousand of those days or more but but apparently we're not there yet and no I had always said as I saw things getting worse that they were going to have to continue to get worse
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: before they could ever possibly begin to think about getting better.
27:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think, I do think, and this is important.
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that the pendulum has been released from its pause at the right and is beginning to swing back the other way.
27:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's reflected, yeah, that's reflected in the poll numbers that we're seeing now.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's real hope now, not just among Democrats but and independence,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even some Republicans who've just plain had enough.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this brings me to Christopher web posted.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, he writes, this should set off every alarm.
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Louisiana is about to pull the rug mid-election.
28:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Absentee bullets, ballots are already out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Early voting starts May 2nd, election day is May 16th.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And just days before, governor Landry is planning to suspend the primary entirely.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, it's that were to happen.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to look to you on this because I don't even like can they do I mean I know each state runs their own so they can they can cancel it but I mean what happens what what happens?
28:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is based on the Supreme Court ruling last night.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And it frees Governor DeSatan here in Florida, also.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And now the Republican legislature here has endorsed his redistricting plan, which takes our blue districts down to one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My county, the longest county in the state with the most shoreline, will be without a democratic,
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[SPEAKER_02]: representation for first time in forever because the Republicans think they own the place and I think I think I think that there's enough exhaustion
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[SPEAKER_02]: among everybody and and enough anger among Republicans and some independence and maybe even some Republicans that I think I think we're ready to call a halt and because there is infighting yay in the Republican Party here in Florida, there's a very real chance we'll elect a Democratic governor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a very real chance.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So fucking awesome.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: When I, when Martian I moved here 11 years ago, I, I, 10, yeah, about that.
29:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, about 10, 11 years ago.
29:59
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a purple state twice had voted for Obama.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we thought, oh, this is great.
30:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus we haven't.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: All three.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So this will be awesome.
30:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And everything turned red and once they got control, they just got their little claws into everything and just infected every area of government, just as Trump has done at the national level.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I see the tide turning here, even in Florida, I see the tide turning.
30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They're seeing a tide turning in Texas.
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what's gonna make the difference and if we can get to the election and I think we can,
30:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we can, I think we can, if we can get to the election and through the election I think we're going to be okay.
30:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a very good chance we could get firm control of progress and make Donald Trump or whoever sits in that chair in effect.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I want to kind of throw in there is I was listening to somebody on YouTube the other day and he was talking about like suffering and human suffering and he was just talking about how you have a choice where you can suffer down or you can suffer up, which means, you know, like suffering down would be were toast, I mean, as far as Donald Trump and the United States were going to like were toast, it's over the American experiment has failed.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Suffering up means recognizing all the damage that's being done but seeing there is an opportunity in this because and I've talked about this I'll show a lot, but I want to re-emphasize it because you know, there have been so many times in history where things fall apart and then we rebuild, right?
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: all of us, Democrats, meaning Democrats, I should say, you know, we had remarkable.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, reasonable people.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We had occupied Wall Street.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about getting rid of money and elections citizens united.
32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We want universal health care.
32:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, on the trajectory we had been on, it might have happened, but it would take a long
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't like, you know, what was it?
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Susan Serendid said, burn it all down.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I completely disagreed with her.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: However, things were burning down.
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And that work was done for us.
32:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and the way that we suffer up because we are it is suffering.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We're paying higher prices for things people are being detained.
32:32
[SPEAKER_00]: People are dying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's violence.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: There's all of the negative everything you can think of.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you suffer up, you say, where is the opportunity?
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: How can we improve this?
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really where I try to stay in all of it because it's like as I told you, I can't follow politics the way I used to.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do it.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how popular this I did.
32:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, and even you came today, although I did recognize the little Louisiana story once you started telling it.
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I told before the show I hadn't heard it, but I actually had.
33:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, but I appreciated, you know, being at least knowledgeable enough to expand on that a little bit and expand on it.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But now Bob does this all on stuff like that.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm you know, since retiring from doing the news I don't follow it as closely, but as a citizen I feel you kind of have to remain aware.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So I listen to a few things.
33:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I watch a few things.
33:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I read a few things not not anything as I used to when I prepared my newscat and that sort of thing
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I had to back off a lot of us have, but it's everybody's duty as a citizen to, you know, remain at least aware and inform.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And what you just said was very, is very, very important.
33:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad you, and you should keep reiterating it that you can suffer up or suffer down.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I would add to that, that being human, we do both.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I do both.
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I've suffered up.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I have days.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm suffer up days.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I suffer down a days.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I suffer down in the morning and I'm suffering up by afternoon.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because it's like you said as a human, your first is going to be triggered.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Your first is going to have feelings.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to kind of sort through them.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I've been, you know, I've been practicing.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Just different tools to deal with what's happening.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it takes.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, whether you go to a psychologist or whether you're looking for something spiritual or quantum or whatever it is.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I have come to because I feel like.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no matter what, there's going to be adversity.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, we put a label, we're the ones who label it.
34:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We label it good, we label it bad, because without our labels, it just is.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we put a label on it.
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, okay, so if we're going to label it, especially what's happening now, yes, it's awful, yes, it's horrible, yes, it's damaged, yes, it's destruction.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also an opportunity.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we've gone through this before, look at what Germany did.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: look what they did after the Holocaust.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not letting go.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: There's plaques everywhere to remember and to make sure people don't forget that.
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I think here we're going to have our own way of dealing with it.
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that no matter what happens, I think the thing that concerns me, I don't want to say scares me.
35:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: concerns me as legacy media is going to still be here.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Once we gain control and legacy media is not friendly to Democrats period and they call it the liberal media and that's a fucking joke.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all owned by oligarchs now and so it's what I think though is happening and I feel
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: really good about it is we're seeing a new independent media kind of come up and I do hope that at some point, I mean, I hate to see institutions like the Washington Post and even the New York Times and all of that a lot of what's been, I mean, I think the New York, if they just would get new ownership and go back to old standards, yes, would experience that again, I don't know if that's ever going to happen.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm got into news because of Woodward and Bernstein, right, you know, I knew I wanted I was knew I wanted to be on radio or television.
36:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And, but when I saw all the president's men, I thought, well, and I'd been following the story as well.
36:17
[SPEAKER_02]: When I saw that, I thought, oh my gosh, that's exactly what I want to do.
36:21
[SPEAKER_02]: or be a part of, anyway.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And on a local scale I was.
36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, local news is very important.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're losing a lot of those.
36:31
[SPEAKER_02]: The FCC is also looking at changes in frequencies and power outputs that could virtually kill over the air television broadcasting by the end of this year.
36:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't that be great because a local for them
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: TV, not only exposes a local corruption, but it also is that the only media that reports on our protests when we did, because the corporate legacy media in New York and D.C., and not not doing that, not going to do that.
37:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And it just breaks my heart, just breaks my heart to see what's happened to the Washington Post, which isn't
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: is a shadow of itself.
37:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the New York Times depends on the day, but the ownership sucks.
37:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, CBS News, I came up to, I was so proud, I can't tell you how proud I was when I got a job at CBS, and then they fired me, and I got another job at CBS, and I was very proud to be a part of that organization.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm ashamed of it as it is today.
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud of what it was.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my grandmother worked for CBS and she was an editor.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's just, um, it's just really hard.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just really hard.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And so some things will be able to rebuild.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Some things we won't, some things will rebuild quickly.
37:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Some things will take time.
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But we will rebuild and that's the suffering up.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And like one of the things I was talking to Bob about, um, oftentimes, we experience, we always say it's the loss of innocence and it was so much better back then, like everyone does this.
38:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Every human gets older and they look back and they go, oh my god, it was so much better back then.
38:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a little small.
38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Nicole phone calls.
38:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Women can't vote.
38:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
38:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Blacks got a separate water fountain.
38:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back to that.
38:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Shall we?
38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
38:30
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and the thing is is that we're always evolving.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always going to be different.
38:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So what was working in good, maybe in one era is it's not the same era.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just everything's different.
38:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like to get caught up and saying, oh, my God, it was so much better before.
38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you said, it was better for some people, but there was a whole period of the big swaths of people who were getting screwed.
38:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and so we do have this opportunity and I want everybody to kind of keep their focus on that because yes, it sucks.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying be a Pauling Anna.
39:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying pretend it doesn't or act like it doesn't right.
39:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We all have to see what's going on.
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have to understand the consequences involved and unfortunately a lot of that times we have to feel it.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and you'll let it go.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we do.
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, some of these things have been when I got up Saturday that Saturday morning and learned that we attacked Iran.
39:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a punch in the gut.
39:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, when you hear that the Supreme Court is essentially gut of the civil rights act, it's a punch in the gut.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just think, well, how much more of this can I take?
39:36
[SPEAKER_02]: What you said about suffering up and suffering now.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Just what I want to say about your thing there, about suffering up and suffering now.
39:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's important for people to remember that that a human to do both and and and it's it's important of something something to be aware of it if you're aware of suffering up and suffering down I think you're gonna handle it better.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly it.
39:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Be aware.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like people just usually buy into their feelings as it
40:03
[SPEAKER_00]: This is who I am and feelings are.
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, right now.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, right now I see absolutely no freaking hope.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, later in the day, I'm going to say, you know what, I feel pretty good about the resistance.
40:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've got this.
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you can, you can, you can come around on that.
40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to, the other thing I would add to that is you don't have to be a pro to find your Zen.
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I find it behind a lawnmower sometimes.
40:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find it by just stepping outside and looking at some amazing clouds.
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And enjoying the green and of the grass and the trees and the blue of the sky and birds and children and whatever else may be out there of entertainment value and take that in for a change as opposed to all this other stuff.
40:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You should well round and die it includes both.
40:52
[SPEAKER_02]: If you follow him, he'll be upset.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, keeping up with your duty as a citizen to remain at least decently informed and factually informed and at the same time, taking some time for yourself and your own mental health.
41:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know it's hard, especially with parents and kids in the serial on the dog and they, you know, it can be very challenging, but it's something, both things are necessary.
41:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You really need to do your
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: your duty as a citizen and you really need to take care of yourself because if you can't take care of yourself, you can't take care of the rest of us or your kids.
41:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That matters.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I want to ask you about that in just a second because the last thing I want to kind of bring up is I don't know if you're too aware of the rape academy.
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that CNN just uncovered, but I, I, I heard, go ahead.
41:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I, all I know is that it exists, see, I, something's creeped me out so much.
41:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't want to know the details.
41:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, and I feel like I know the details without knowing the details.
41:57
[SPEAKER_02]: If that makes any sense at all, I know the, what did I, did I read something?
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And is this true like 62 or 26 million men like their or
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[SPEAKER_00]: teaches men how to rape their wives.
42:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So they drug their wives and then they rape them.
42:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have it all in video.
42:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the, I heard different numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard it was 62 million men logged in or people.
42:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's, and then I heard 80 some, I don't know exactly what the number is, and it doesn't really matter.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: The point is is exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it exists and it's it's just coming on top of everything else right we went through me too and I think during me too people like Bill Mar and even Liam Neeson even Liam Neeson who was my big fucking crush he was my longest crush but he warned
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[SPEAKER_00]: against taking it too far and I and he completely lost me.
42:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I still enjoy his movies and whatnot.
42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like I don't hate him, but oh my god did he disappoint me when he was warning us to not go too far with me too.
42:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just you know what I want to say about this is
43:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Since this news came out about the rape academy, you know, all of a sudden there on top of the rage over the patriarchy that has been existing and has been building up for a long as fucking time.
43:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't even know how long since forever.
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it seems like things improved and then we take all these steps backwards.
43:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But women are just so fucking tired of it.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when we post, you know, men look at this, then this is my problem.
43:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my problem right here.
43:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Is if we say men went to this website, then you get all these men who come on comment, and they go, I didn't, don't say all men, don't let me into that category.
43:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, stop fucking liking it about you!
43:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And we think now dust protest too much.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and even if you're not a fucking rapist, you don't get a cookie for not being a rapist, and if it bothers you so much, then stand up with us and talk out against it.
43:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you see or hear, I just go to see or hear speak out, but yes, firmly say something.
44:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And most men are not going to feel comfortable doing it.
44:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand it like, for instance, my mother, whenever.
44:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And it mostly happened in Maryland when I was younger.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't happen, maybe, I don't even know if it ever happened when we lived in California because I don't know if anyone ever said it.
44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But when people would say the N word around my mother, she just stops everything and she said, do not speak that way around me, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you, when I'm not in your presence, but do not say that around me.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And here I am this little girl and I see my mom and she doesn't fuck around.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: She's just like, don't say that.
44:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, you know, it makes everyone uncomfortable.
44:43
[SPEAKER_00]: when someone stands up, and it's not easy to do.
44:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I did it.
44:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
44:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mean to interrupt your story.
44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's okay.
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm done.
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I was just going to say what as a child, I heard they were occasionally and it made me uncomfortable even though something inside of me told me it wasn't right.
45:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just, it sounded like a slur.
45:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It was spoken as a slur, you know.
45:10
[SPEAKER_02]: But exactly.
45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I learned from context that it wasn't a nice thing.
45:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And as a child, you, you don't speak up because you're
45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.
45:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't even know any better, but it's in a hard the harder thing is as you get older and this goes from a sojony to and things you hear a misogynistic things you hear as you get older it can be
45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, a young man has to come to a point where, okay, I'm old enough to speak up now and object and not only am I old enough now to speak up and object, I have an obligation to do so.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And it takes some of us longer to get there than others and I will say that in the case of guys like Liam Neeson and myself, sometimes we say stupid stuff and I get it so to why, you know, I mean we all do sometimes we're just ignorant to what's going on.
46:05
[SPEAKER_02]: but i don't disagree with anything else you've said here uh uh uh it's this this is the the patriarchal world that we live in and and and i wish it were not so uh uh and and i don't know how we other than calling it out and shaming it uh and and i think uh uh
46:24
[SPEAKER_02]: for all, we could say about CNN and we could say quite a lot, applause to them for bringing this story out, and to those who've spread the story, so that there's an awareness of the rape academy, and all of its many visitors, website visitors, and the fact that,
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: This is still very much a part of our culture.
46:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I encountered a gentleman, oh, I don't know.
46:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I let me withdraw the word gentleman.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I encountered a guy yesterday who should be of some educational, you know, have a.
47:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a way.
47:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It should be a well-educated man.
47:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's put it that way.
47:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be too specific here about the individual.
47:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But I said my iPad wasn't working and he said, it isn't listening to you and I said, no, no, it's not.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He said it must be a woman.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, hey, hey, yeah.
47:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when we parted ways, he offered his hand to shake hands.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I took his hand and I looked him in the eye and I said, watch the jokes.
47:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there was a time.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a time I wouldn't have spoken up.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad that at my age, I finally reached that time.
47:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And but in this enlightened age, every young adult male and beyond should.
47:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, 100% and the thing is is that I think one of the ways we, you know, the way we over turn patriarchy because patriarchy is not the opposite of matriarchy.
47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw I had done this little sketch and then a couple of different people made much better graphics than I could.
48:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, yes, I know if you look up the definition of matriarchy, it's that women are
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Not so much, it's more of a feminine energy versus masculine energy and it's not one is good in one is bad in one is male is one is female feminine energy is creativity it's protective it's nurturing and I think that a lot of democratic legislation is matriarchal when you look at social security.
48:34
[SPEAKER_00]: or when you look at Medicaid, or any of these kinds of... That's interesting.
48:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you've got any kind of a social safety net, that's matriarchal, because matriarchal is basically a circle where everybody forms a circle and then protects the vulnerable in the middle.
48:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not about women ruling and if women rule then it's going to be the same as a patriarchy except with women.
49:01
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not that.
49:03
[SPEAKER_00]: All we need to do is we need one of the things going back to what we were talking about earlier, my mind is racing right now and I'm forgetting how to correlate this.
49:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just the idea that Democrats aren't perfect, right?
49:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know,
49:22
[SPEAKER_00]: In the rebuild, I think that what we need to really focus on is getting the corruption, like Citizens United is corrupt, it corrupts everybody.
49:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Democrats are affected by it.
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean necessarily they're all bad people.
49:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But in order to win, they have to utilize
49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: to play that game.
49:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So get that out of the fucking picture.
49:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't I know that's like a big lift, but regardless, the idea here is that it's the legend.
49:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can too, but the legislation is what is the point.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we can, you know, whether it's
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the laws we have regarding sexual assault, not having time limits for when we can bring stature of limitations, when we can bring things.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many things that we can do.
50:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We can also have more women judges because I did this whole article about, I think it was like white men, rape women and children, and face no prison time.
50:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just, it was one after the other.
50:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, this is so horrible.
50:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
50:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:30
[SPEAKER_00]: but but they were raping babies and they didn't go to jail because the judge was more concerned that their life would be ruined.
50:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like there's so many things that we need to do and my whole thing here is that some I said I want to live in a matriarchy where you know where everybody who is a bigot and a racist is shunned or something like that.
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And this man this white man said I
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And I in front of him and I said, I'm sorry, you don't understand what matriarchy is.
51:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you should check it out.
51:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, this is not about manhating.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: This is about a power structure that isn't equal or fair.
51:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And just I'm so tired.
51:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm just so tired of men freaking out when they hear women talk about it.
51:20
[SPEAKER_00]: As if we hate them, that is a patriarchal move and liberal men are doing it.
51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just I'm so fucking tired of it.
51:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I get that and and I think I think they're afraid to a certain extent.
51:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a there.
51:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's like how Trump reacts to certain things.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, it's his way of crouching in fear is to sort of lash out with it with an accusation.
51:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if there's a hybrid because I'm not better educated.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if there's a hybrid word between matriarchy and patriarchy.
51:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's what I do know and I believe you're gonna agree with this statement wholeheartedly.
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is men rule at the exclusion of women, and I think government of the people by the people and for the people needs both.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Men too, it's not a lie.
52:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That compassion and the problem is what we have now is men ruling at the exclusion of women.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You see, that's the problem, women are being, it's not that women are going to take over or need to even need to take over.
52:25
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they just want to, they want, they want equal seats at the table.
52:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we will say it.
52:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
52:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Equal seats at the table should be, the ban should be nothing less or greater depending on what the population breakdown is.
52:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if there are more women than men, I have a check the latest figures, but if that's the case, then that's the degree of control women should have over government.
52:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But it should be a cooperative effort in my mind, not at the exclusion of one sex or the other.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, no, because our government should reflect what we all look like.
53:00
[SPEAKER_00]: No matter our race, color, whatever.
53:02
[SPEAKER_00]: No matter where we're from.
53:04
[SPEAKER_00]: no matter what.
53:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's always better to have someone in government who has, you know, lived like everybody else as opposed to somebody like Mitt Romney, who didn't even know what a donut was.
53:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I mean, it's good to have people who, like, you know, Tim Walsh, you know, he's just like every day, man.
53:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And those people understand, going to the grocery store, getting gas, all that stuff did Mitt Romney.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump never stopped and got gas's entire life.
53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't know what tomatoes cost.
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he doesn't know, and he doesn't care.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to make this plea for any man who's listening, any man, especially of a certain age, because I get that growing up when you're older, whether, you know, like I'd say Jen X and up, you know, you grow up with a certain kind of a culture.
53:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are certain things that are acceptable, and it's hard to kind of see the new way of looking at it.
53:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is a new way of looking at it.
54:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything negative about you, if you're going to support women, that's all just support women and recognize that we need you to, because it's like usually when these articles come out, they're primary, whether it's an article or a graphic meme, whatever.
54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: When it has to do with women's issues, it's primarily shared by women.
54:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We just need more men engaging and participating and kind of speaking up, and it's not that hard.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you got for black people, we speak up for minorities.
54:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like we have fewer men and fewer men who exclude women from governments.
54:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, and I mean, that's just the bottom line.
54:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't we just, I want to ask you what you like to do, because we were kind of touching on this go out, look at the sky.
54:52
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you like to do for self care during these tumultuous times?
54:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, one thing I don't do is watch a dark television shows, you know, I don't watch a lot of, you know, I shows about corruption.
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't watch a murder show.
55:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, like light murder mysteries.
55:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
55:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Not true crime.
55:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I indulge in that.
55:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I avoid reality TV, but I do like a Good fiction, you know, I that's a scape as that that gives me a way from all of this crap And that's but that's indoors outdoors.
55:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I do love nature.
55:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I do I like to go out on the water here Because I have an opportunity to do that and I enjoy that very much and time at the beach when when I can
55:38
[SPEAKER_02]: a range of or get myself down there.
55:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But also travel, Martian I had a great trip last year to celebrate our 50th anniversary.
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And we had so damn much fun that we're doing another trip this year that's going to take me take us along the Emerald Coast Florida, which I understand is quite beautiful, and then off to New Orleans.
56:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Lafayette, Louisiana.
56:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And then up to see my friends and dear ones in Kansas, where I came from, and then back to through Little Rock Arkansas, where we must die again at eat my catfish, because that's the best catfish in America is at eat my catfish in Little Rock, and then from there on to Memphis, and so the stops in New Orleans and Memphis are going to be about jazz,
56:28
[SPEAKER_02]: and blues and we're going to hang it both of those places for a little while and do some cool stuff there.
56:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably the following morning after we visit Elvis's crispy cream, we will go to the National Civil Rights Museum.
56:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That's there.
56:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to show Marshall all the recording studios.
56:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's close together.
56:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Beals, you know, beel street for the blues.
56:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be, I'm a really good one.
56:53
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the kind of stuff that that takes us away from that kind of thing.
56:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get right back in it.
56:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been to seven protests, seven anti Trump protests.
57:05
[SPEAKER_02]: that we've known about, and we have, I see opportunity for a couple more.
57:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I know once popped up for for tomorrow, Mayday, when we're all supposed to be, it went where possible, closing our businesses, where possible, skipping school, by whatever means you can get away with without hurting yourself.
57:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, and not shopping, not not shopping.
57:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the, that's the main thing.
57:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's hard to do because these evil bastards are like Amazon and elsewhere.
57:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They've made it so easy for us to shop without even thinking about it.
57:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So easy.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And you go, oh my god, I just spent money and it didn't mean to me.
57:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So be very, very careful tomorrow because you're just so used to clicking in many classes and getting, oh, I need this and you got, oh wait, no, not today, it could wait till tomorrow, not today.
57:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So get it today, get it, get it Saturday, do not get it tomorrow because we want this Mayday protest to work.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We want them to feel it and and if there's a.
58:08
[SPEAKER_02]: visible protest near you that you can be a part of.
58:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I can vouch for these as being wonderful experiences.
58:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are.
58:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I usually go grocery shopping on Friday, not going to go, which is a premium in my ass.
58:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're going to miss your stories.
58:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to miss your updates.
58:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I know all of my, you know, it's so funny because I always talk to the checker at the grocery store.
58:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
58:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And yesterday, I was in there.
58:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
58:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So real quick.
58:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in their last week.
58:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this woman is very young.
58:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the same.
58:38
[SPEAKER_00]: She's very early 20s and she's I think she's from Pakistan.
58:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think and so last week when I saw her, I said, I don't even know what.
58:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I already knew that she wasn't.
58:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a Trump, of course, he's not a Trumper, but I mean, I have already talked to her and I know she was kind of open to politics.
58:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just looked at her and I said, and it was because the epistemic crisis doctor said that he was going to die that Thursday and so I was in there on Tuesday and I'm like, I guess what like a doctor on Instagram thinks Trump's going to die on Thursday.
59:13
[SPEAKER_00]: She started laughing and she's like, really?
59:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, look, he's probably not gonna die.
59:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But at least, you know, we've got that open.
59:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We do know a six, so we were just talking about it.
59:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I said, you know, she sits something like, when he dies, she's like, just gonna be celebrations all over the world.
59:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, oh my God, I know, we were just like totally going on about it.
59:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I posted about it on social media and some guy comes on.
59:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, you know, as if all the things that never happened this never happened.
59:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, it happened.
59:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So I told her that.
59:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, yes, I'm guy on social media did not believe me and she started laughing and once again we were laughing and you know we I just I'm like keep the faith he's going to die.
59:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, look if you were your dad, if you were your dad and you loved him when you think he was going to die and she's like yes, and I'm like well, and so we were just like.
59:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally in on it and it's just so funny to me because another woman I was I can't even remember what the deal is, but I'm very friendly and so you know usually tell someone you know don't forget to vote and that's how I know if they're interested because it's like if I say it and they say nothing then I just leave it alone because I don't tell anybody anything about liberal or not, but so it they'll start talking.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this woman and I started talking and I don't even remember we were just talking about how much we hated him and we wanted to die because that's that's like the first thing I check every morning as you did yet and She gave me like the store gives discount of 20% off just
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, see, hating on Trump actually pays.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's about damn time.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about damn time.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And more stories should take on that policy.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what you're saying.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's unfortunate that this doctor chose the date.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that hurts his right.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish he did.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So here's what we do.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what we do going forward.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Just say, it's just, let's say, you know, he's dying.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's all.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to back it up with anything.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't just wanted to say, yeah, yeah, he's dying, you know.
1:01:06
[SPEAKER_00]: every way he's dying okay that is like I live in that energy I live in the energy of because when he does finally leave whether it's because he's 25th whatever it is it it it it start you know I I said this to my mom and I know we're gonna go in a second but like there's there's the element of surprise we're something's gonna happen something's going to occur that we just can't right now
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know how it's all going to play out right when when when that news comes down where we're kind of used to that though, aren't we yes, but there's going to be I think there's going to be an energetic change in the air oh yeah, just like when he dies for when when he dies there's going to be a lot of people.
1:01:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Celebrating ever.
1:01:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that going to be like if you feel a cool front move in, you know, uh, sometimes you go, oh, that's refreshing.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just what we need it.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're going to feel.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be this like energetic change that every even though fascism is still going to be there.
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're still going to deal with all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I color colors will be brighter food will take better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just want to say thank you so much for returning to the show and being such a wonderful guest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell everybody where to find you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, please don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do right occasionally on notes on sub-stack notes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'll then I have a blogger to there in which I recount some of my protests.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the name of it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I'm on these things and I post on them and then I go away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't really, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got time there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's see, anyway, I'm on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a, as Buzz Burbank and as Michael J.L.ston, I'm on Blue Sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You should be able to find me there easily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on, let's see, what's the other one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's spoutable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spoutable, I'm on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I'm around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can find me, I'm so, what's it called?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A note here, see if I can read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's at Michael J.L.ston buzz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see, that's why no one can remember it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's at Michael J.L.ston buzz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because I didn't know what I was doing when I set this up, uh, but at Michael J. Austin Buzz, I'm there, but I'm also like I said on all those other fine channels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks again, and I'm sure we'll talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: once again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hopefully you do it and more often and hopefully you do it sooner than the other night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, bye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other night, Martian, I dined at that same restaurant that you and Bob and she and I dined at when you were here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do hope that we can break bread together again sometime as soon as Bob and I keep talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done anything for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we did go to New York last year, but just literally overnight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, we have to make that happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, okay, well, we shall talk before the election and tell Marsha I said hello.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I will do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She already instructed me to say the same to you, so hi to everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And thank you for having me and hi everybody in Kimberly's office.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In Kimberly's office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Kimberly's office.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In Kimberly's show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I'm leaving now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, thanks Buzz, bye-bye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, bye-bye.