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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. This is an amazing turnout and
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Speaker 1: it's great to see so many familiar faces. That's quite
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Speaker 1: a stack of donuts in the foyer, isn't it. In America,
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Speaker 1: we don't do that sort of thing. You don't leave
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Speaker 1: free coffee and a stack of donuts like that unless
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Speaker 1: you want to parking lot full of police cars in
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Speaker 1: about five minutes. So it's very risky. So I know,
0:45
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about the deep state, and this
0:47
Speaker 1: is a really good it's a really good topic. It's
0:49
Speaker 1: a good subject, and so much of what we are
0:52
Speaker 1: going to talk about can be anchored on that. That
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Speaker 1: that point, and just a little introt auction about myself.
1:02
Speaker 1: A lot of people the question I get a lot
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Speaker 1: which was really hard to answer over the years, they
1:07
Speaker 1: said how did you how did you get into this?
1:09
Speaker 1: Or the other one that's hard to answer is what
1:12
Speaker 1: made you wake up? You know, when was your red
1:15
Speaker 1: pill moment? And I think all of us are very
1:19
Speaker 1: similar in that respect, that we all have many red
1:21
Speaker 1: pill moments over the course of our life. And if
1:26
Speaker 1: you're a person who's curious to know how things work
1:30
Speaker 1: and how things are, and you'd rather have the unvarnished
1:35
Speaker 1: version of reality rather than the glossed over version of reality.
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Speaker 1: Then you probably here, that's why you're here, and that's
1:45
Speaker 1: the type of person I guess I am. So we
1:47
Speaker 1: have that in common. But the actual you know, the
1:51
Speaker 1: funny enough and it is amazing the thing that got
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Speaker 1: me into blogging. You remember when blogging was was coming online.
1:59
Speaker 1: It was around two thousand and two thousand and three,
2:03
Speaker 1: and it was definitely the Iraq War. It was definitely
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Speaker 1: the right that was a big There's a lot of
2:07
Speaker 1: things that changed me politically over the years that shaped
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Speaker 1: my curiosity and my worldview, if you will, which I
2:15
Speaker 1: didn't know what my worldview was until a couple of
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Speaker 1: years ago. But it was the Iraq War and it
2:20
Speaker 1: was being out on the streets in London with two
2:22
Speaker 1: million people they say to some say one the Times
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Speaker 1: said probably five hundred thousand or less. The Telegraph said
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. But is being out there on the
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Speaker 1: street with two million people, and we all it was unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: How many of you were there. There's quite a few
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Speaker 1: of you, you know, And I was just blown away.
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Speaker 1: I'd never seen so many different people from so many
2:50
Speaker 1: different parts of society, all focused on this issue, that
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Speaker 1: this can't happen, This can't be allowed to happen, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything possible. There are people coming from
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Speaker 1: all over the country, and even you got the sense
3:02
Speaker 1: that the police were in all of that. They were
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Speaker 1: standing down. They couldn't believe the solidarity in the country
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Speaker 1: despite everything in the warmongering that was going on the media.
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Speaker 1: And then there was one March, and then there was another,
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Speaker 1: and then the last one, the eleventh Hour March. It's
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Speaker 1: the biggest one, I think before March of March, the
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Speaker 1: month of March of twenty three and Britain went to
3:33
Speaker 1: war alongside the United States and the Coalition of the
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Speaker 1: Willing anyway, and the feeling after that was such exasperation.
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Speaker 1: It was such a feeling of not defeat, but just
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Speaker 1: completely exhausted because so many people put so much into
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Speaker 1: that trying to stop what was clearly a war that
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Speaker 1: was based on false pretense, lies, propaganda. And I think
4:04
Speaker 1: that really motivated me, and that got me, that gave
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Speaker 1: me a voice when I was blogging, when I was
4:09
Speaker 1: learning how to write, you know, properly. It's not my
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Speaker 1: background as a writer, but it gave me a voice.
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Speaker 1: It gave me something passionate that I could use as
4:23
Speaker 1: energy that I could use to, you know, kind of
4:28
Speaker 1: poke the system in the eye, as it were. And
4:32
Speaker 1: and it's so funny, a lot of my colleagues in
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Speaker 1: alternative independent media had the same experience that we all
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Speaker 1: realized something. We said, propaganda is what made this war happen.
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Speaker 1: In the end of the day, they had just enough consent,
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Speaker 1: just enough public consent for the war effort, just enough
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Speaker 1: people fell for it that it just barely tipped the
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Speaker 1: skin in their favor. It had been a little bit
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Speaker 1: more people on board with the anti war effort, as
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Speaker 1: they say, maybe the results would have been different. Maybe
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Speaker 1: the results would have been different. So I said, well,
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Speaker 1: I've got to get into this information game. I got
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Speaker 1: to understand propaganda. And I had a good education in propaganda,
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Speaker 1: funny enough, as a designer studying Soviet propaganda, because that's
5:23
Speaker 1: how we learned to design typefaces back in the day
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Speaker 1: before Macintosh and Adobe products became ubiquitous. But so I understood,
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Speaker 1: I understood, had a good, deep understanding of symbolism and propaganda.
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Speaker 1: And I think that really informs a lot of my
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Speaker 1: work but we noticed back then, but not everybody noticed.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I was saying, this is a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are talking about this, the great noticing. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of things happening that people are noticing. I mean,
5:55
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a defeatist title, because we'd
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Speaker 1: like to be doing, people to be doing more than
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Speaker 1: just noticing. But I'll settle for that because I like that.
6:04
Speaker 1: It's very elegant. There's a lot of noticing going on.
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Speaker 1: People are noticing things. What exactly are people noticing the
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Speaker 1: deep state? The first time I heard that term was
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Speaker 1: a great researcher and academic named Peter Dale Scott Grete
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Speaker 1: nine to eleven researcher. Probably some of you have read
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Speaker 1: his books. He's the first person that I ever heard
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Speaker 1: to use this term the deep state, and it was interesting.
6:30
Speaker 1: And then Alex Thompson mentioned Mike Lofgram congressional staffer who
6:35
Speaker 1: wrote a great book on this is a great interview
6:37
Speaker 1: with Bill Moyers, who's a great American talk show host
6:41
Speaker 1: that Mike Lauferman did with him. And also the Turkish reference,
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Speaker 1: which Alex SAIDs very true. That is the origin really
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Speaker 1: of this term. But there's more to it, and you know,
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Speaker 1: if you think about it, if you think about the military,
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Speaker 1: the intelligence, the media, civil service, what we call the
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Speaker 1: permit permanent state. In Britain you have the Cabinet Office,
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Speaker 1: doesn't change more or less, doesn't change. It provides continuity
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Speaker 1: for the state between governments. In America we have the
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Speaker 1: Senior Executive Service as well. It provides continuity. And a
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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about this or don't it's
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Speaker 1: not spoken about a lot, but it's there. So those
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Speaker 1: are some of the things. It's interesting. The Masonic reference
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Speaker 1: the Mason lodges. You'd be surprised to know there's a
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Speaker 1: lodge for every single section of industry and even the media.
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Speaker 1: They have a media Lodge. I learned this recently. If
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Speaker 1: you're in the media, the mainstream media in London, you
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Speaker 1: probably belong to the media Lodge, and they also have
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Speaker 1: women and men in the media Lodge. There's a worshipful
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Speaker 1: company of information technologists as well as the Goldsmiths and
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Speaker 1: all the old guilds. But if you're in police, judiciary,
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Speaker 1: military intelligence, depending on your rank, will determine maybe what
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Speaker 1: lodge you're invited into. And what this is is basically
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Speaker 1: a network. This is part of the deep state network,
8:15
Speaker 1: but because membership is secret, it makes the network even
8:21
Speaker 1: more powerful. And it's also about spotting talent and recruiting
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Speaker 1: people to come into your network so they could be
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Speaker 1: trusted to participate in whatever the agenda is. So I
8:35
Speaker 1: look at it like a social network. It's like imagine
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Speaker 1: being in the game, but not. Let's say, if I'm
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Speaker 1: in the media, I'm not on X. They say, oh,
8:43
Speaker 1: you're a journalist, are you're on X? And I'm like no,
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Speaker 1: So I'm kind of irrelevant to a lot of journalists
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Speaker 1: if I'm not on X or Twitter. Same thing. If
8:51
Speaker 1: you're in certain professions or you're at certain excellence within professions,
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Speaker 1: traditionally you have to belong to that social net. It's
9:00
Speaker 1: not the only social network, but it's just one of them.
9:03
Speaker 1: So I thought i'd add that. But they all move
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Speaker 1: and with a common purpose. Okay, what is that common purpose?
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Speaker 1: Could There's a lot of different ways to answer that question.
9:15
Speaker 1: One of them is global capital. Which way are the
9:19
Speaker 1: markets going? Which way is global capital? I know a
9:22
Speaker 1: lot of Marxists use that term in their discourse, but
9:26
Speaker 1: it's actually quite accurate. What does global capital want. Okay,
9:32
Speaker 1: that is a very important question to ask when you're
9:35
Speaker 1: looking at things, even Israel and Gaza. What does global
9:41
Speaker 1: capital want? Well, it might have favored Israel before, but
9:45
Speaker 1: will it favor Israel in five years Maybe not. New
9:50
Speaker 1: plans will be drawn up, new direction will be had.
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Speaker 1: So which way is the money moving? Which way is
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Speaker 1: global capital moving. That's an important part of the deep state.
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Speaker 1: It's as old as the government itself. The deep state,
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Speaker 1: continuity of the state, the difference between what we have
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Speaker 1: is a liberal democracy or a constitutional monarchy. The Five
10:17
Speaker 1: Eyes Intelligence Sharing Network is a perfect example of a
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Speaker 1: cross border, transnational deep state that does operate in the
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Speaker 1: interests of global capital as well six eyes if you
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Speaker 1: count the state of Israel. But we're interesting in our
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Speaker 1: liberal democracies. We're very interesting in the West, and there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism about liberal democracies, which we'll talk about.
10:47
Speaker 1: But I guess it's we project our version of society
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Speaker 1: and government on the rest of the world. We've had
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Speaker 1: the luxury of doing that for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Western civilization, and when you get into
11:06
Speaker 1: the democratic, liberal democratic period after the French Revolution, one
11:11
Speaker 1: of the things that we fear most in our Western
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Speaker 1: democracies is that there'll be tyranny will take over. So
11:18
Speaker 1: we go through this ritual every four or five years,
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Speaker 1: change our politicians out, put new ones in because we're
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Speaker 1: afraid of people staying in power too long. But what's
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Speaker 1: happened over these years is that government has become very dysfunctional,
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Speaker 1: very paralytic, and oligarchs have taken over. The power is
11:39
Speaker 1: left in many ways the government, you see, and it's
11:42
Speaker 1: been externalized to an oligarchy, be it a corporate oligarchy,
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Speaker 1: and other external powers lobbyists in America for instance. So
11:53
Speaker 1: that's interesting and something we need to look at closely.
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Speaker 1: But what I've learned about the deep state from my travels.
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Speaker 1: This is from Syria. So this is in Palmyra. The
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Speaker 1: Syrians called ted Moore. It's the ancient city of Palmyra.
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Speaker 1: And that would have been about three weeks after Isis
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Speaker 1: had been pushed back, or about a month after Assyrians
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Speaker 1: and the Russians had pushed ISIS back in the Second
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Speaker 1: Battle of Palmyra, And this would been early twenty seventeen
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Speaker 1: somewhere around there. And that's Colonel Simir from the Syrian
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Speaker 1: Arab army, which doesn't exist anymore in Syria. But Syria
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Speaker 1: had a deep state. They had a deep state, They
12:44
Speaker 1: had a Baptist system, political system. Iraq had a system
12:48
Speaker 1: like this as well. It's very interesting. And so they
12:53
Speaker 1: had their own version of the deep state, They had
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Speaker 1: their own continuity of government, and they had a lot
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Speaker 1: They faced a lot bigger challenges than like say, we
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Speaker 1: face in Britain or Europe or America. There aren't external
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Speaker 1: powers actively trying to overthrow our government twenty four hours
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Speaker 1: a day, seven days a week, and launching air strikes
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Speaker 1: against us every week and declaring war against US for
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Speaker 1: decades on end, and assassinating our leaders not once, not twice,
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Speaker 1: three four or five times, twelve different coup attempts in
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Speaker 1: the last forty years or something like that. Fifty years,
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Speaker 1: and plus foreign countries arming and funding jihadists and terrorist
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Speaker 1: fighters to destabilize our country. Imagine if you had to
13:43
Speaker 1: deal with that for a decade and change. That's where
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Speaker 1: they have to deal with, so a very hard structure
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Speaker 1: that they built to maintain some sovereignty in a very
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Speaker 1: hostile environment. And we in the West project our liberal
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Speaker 1: democracy and liberal value saying well, that's not democracy. The
14:04
Speaker 1: sod family has been in power for many years, too long,
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Speaker 1: too long. They need to be free. Well, they freed them,
14:10
Speaker 1: all right, They freed them all right. In December, as
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Speaker 1: al Qaeda marched into Damascus to a round of applause
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Speaker 1: from our governments, who can't find it within themselves to
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Speaker 1: criticize the former deputy head of ISIS and had a
14:27
Speaker 1: founder of al Qaeda in Syria, Aljalani. Can't seem to
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Speaker 1: find it within themselves to criticize this new regime. But
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Speaker 1: they don't call it a regime. It's interesting. That's another
14:37
Speaker 1: interesting bit of language that has to do with the
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Speaker 1: deep state. So I learned a few things there. I
14:45
Speaker 1: learned a few things. There were a few things that
14:49
Speaker 1: happened to me in some of these places that stay
14:52
Speaker 1: in your head. One of them is in Aleppo. We
14:55
Speaker 1: were looking for a white helmet space that had been
14:57
Speaker 1: bombed out, and it was in East Aleppo, just after
15:02
Speaker 1: it had been liberated. And this family was very kind
15:05
Speaker 1: enough to show us, you know, where they lived and
15:08
Speaker 1: where things were with our translator, and the son was
15:14
Speaker 1: about fifteen years old, the boy. There's two boys and
15:17
Speaker 1: a father and their house had been completely turned to
15:21
Speaker 1: rubble and boy had been shot through the arm, and
15:27
Speaker 1: the father said they hadn't been to school in seven
15:31
Speaker 1: six years because there were no schools, so a lot
15:35
Speaker 1: of kids were running around illiterate, and there's no ATM
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Speaker 1: machines in Syria. So I had a wad of Syrium
15:43
Speaker 1: pounds in my pocket that was just enough to get
15:47
Speaker 1: me back to Damascus from Aleppo in a taxi, a
15:52
Speaker 1: private taxi. So and I didn't the people I were
15:56
Speaker 1: with weren't any better off at that moment. I just
15:59
Speaker 1: felt the anguish that I couldn't give him everything that
16:02
Speaker 1: I had because I needed it to get back was
16:07
Speaker 1: something I'll never forget. And it was like I was
16:10
Speaker 1: coming from another planet. I was like an alien. They're
16:13
Speaker 1: looking at where are these what are these guys doing here?
16:16
Speaker 1: You know, we're journalists. So there's that and some of
16:20
Speaker 1: some of these experiences you have and you realize going
16:24
Speaker 1: through the rubble in some of these places and you're
16:25
Speaker 1: finding invoices and receipts from the Adam Smith International Commonics USA,
16:32
Speaker 1: I d for real, that's what we found. So that's
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Speaker 1: our deep state, our money going to build parallel governments
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Speaker 1: in foreign countries. In Syria, same in Ukraine. And I've
16:46
Speaker 1: got a lot to say about that, of course, but
16:51
Speaker 1: that's that's real. I saw the handiwork of my government
16:55
Speaker 1: and this government too, and other European governments, and it's
16:58
Speaker 1: not it's not pretty. But most people in Europe don't care.
17:03
Speaker 1: It's not real. For them, it's like, well, they sort
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Speaker 1: of deserve it because they didn't overthrow their evil dictator.
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Speaker 1: That's the general attitude. A telegraph or the lunch circuit
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Speaker 1: attitude in London, that's the general attitude. But it's real. Iraq,
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Speaker 1: same thing, same thing, horrific things. This country is destroyed
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Speaker 1: and it will not rebuild itself if it's lucky, for
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Speaker 1: another thirty or forty or fifty years, if they're lucky.
17:35
Speaker 1: There's parts of Lebanon that haven't been rebuilt from the
17:38
Speaker 1: previous civil war, not even counting what's happened in the
17:41
Speaker 1: last eighteen months. And Ukraine it's a slightly different story.
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Speaker 1: But Russia, Ukraine, Iraq, they all have deep states. They
17:54
Speaker 1: all have deep states. Hungry. I was there recently. That's interesting.
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Speaker 1: This experiment in Hungary incredible actually, to see what a
18:03
Speaker 1: government can do if they're in for more than two terms,
18:06
Speaker 1: they've actually implemented all the things that they campaigned on,
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Speaker 1: and it's really upset Brussels to no end. I disagree
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Speaker 1: with Hungary's policy visa VI Israel in Palestine, but putting
18:21
Speaker 1: that to the side, it shows you. They say Hungary
18:26
Speaker 1: has got an illiberal government, but the society's very democratic.
18:31
Speaker 1: Normally they turn over governments every four years. Hungarians are
18:35
Speaker 1: very fickle politically, but Orban, the Orban government Feedash has
18:40
Speaker 1: stayed in for quite a long time. I think since
18:43
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten twenty twelve around there. And that
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Speaker 1: kind of continuity allows you to do things if the
18:53
Speaker 1: government is good, if they're competent, and they seem to
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Speaker 1: be in Hungary. And Europe doesn't like this because Europe
19:01
Speaker 1: is very liberal but very undemocratic. Okay, So it's like
19:07
Speaker 1: the inverse. So you can see where our idea of
19:11
Speaker 1: democracy and liberal democracies seems to be clashing a lot.
19:15
Speaker 1: And I've seen that we've exported our deep state created
19:20
Speaker 1: civil society structures all this usc I D scandal in America.
19:24
Speaker 1: That's all that is. That's that is soft power, smart
19:29
Speaker 1: power and Goopower, the Open Society Network by George Soros.
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Speaker 1: That's an extension of the American in European deep state.
19:38
Speaker 1: There's tons and tons of these NGOs. Luckily, a lot
19:41
Speaker 1: of countries are getting wise and kicking them out or
19:45
Speaker 1: banning them from setting up in their country, So this
19:48
Speaker 1: is good. So there's some interesting things going on. One
19:54
Speaker 1: of them is Britain is a very has a very
19:58
Speaker 1: interesting deep state. It's often called upon by global capital
20:03
Speaker 1: to medal in US affairs, which is an interesting thing,
20:10
Speaker 1: and a good example of that is with Trump the
20:14
Speaker 1: entire Russiagate farrago. Britain played a key role in that
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Speaker 1: the Steele dossier. British dossiers are highly regarded in Washington
20:24
Speaker 1: by a lot of people depending on what party is
20:27
Speaker 1: in power at that particular time. Intelligence is like a buffet.
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Speaker 1: It can be politically weaponized depending on who's empower and
20:36
Speaker 1: what the establishment want at that time, and they wanted
20:40
Speaker 1: to They didn't necessarily want Trump out, but they used
20:44
Speaker 1: Russiagate to discipline Trump, I like to say, to discipline
20:48
Speaker 1: because the net of that the Steele dossier, which Christopher Steele,
20:53
Speaker 1: who was with Orbis Business Intelligence, which was run by
20:58
Speaker 1: Sir John Dearlove, former Head of Six, who was also
21:04
Speaker 1: the Head of Six before the Iraq War. And there
21:07
Speaker 1: was this thing called yellow cake uranium from Niger. You
21:11
Speaker 1: guys remember that some of the evidence of WMDs, and
21:15
Speaker 1: while he was the Head of Six, they were pushing
21:18
Speaker 1: that really hard to the Americans. And I don't know
21:21
Speaker 1: if Alex would agree or not, but the Americans show
21:24
Speaker 1: some deference to the British in certain matters, and the
21:30
Speaker 1: British power persuasion with some of the American colleagues in
21:34
Speaker 1: those types of situations might be very, very powerful. So
21:39
Speaker 1: the rest is history. That was one of those things
21:43
Speaker 1: that helped to tip the balance on the Iraq War.
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Speaker 1: That's just one example of many. But the Americans do
21:50
Speaker 1: the same thing. You see the Americans medal in British
21:53
Speaker 1: politics and have done many many times in history for
21:57
Speaker 1: different reasons. A good example recently is Jeremy corbyin Okay,
22:02
Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbin two thoy and eighteen before the anti labor
22:08
Speaker 1: and the anti Semitism or anti the anti Semitism in
22:11
Speaker 1: Labor scandal, before that, right before that hit its peak,
22:15
Speaker 1: it was Jeremy Corbin is a risk to national security.
22:20
Speaker 1: And photos started emerging of him with an IRA person
22:26
Speaker 1: and then going to some service in some Tunisia, I
22:30
Speaker 1: can't remember where it was. So he was an IRA terrorist,
22:33
Speaker 1: he was al kaita sympathizer, and he was something else.
22:37
Speaker 1: And then there's the Palestinian issue that Corbin champion. The
22:42
Speaker 1: American intelligence made a statement and this was an amazing
22:45
Speaker 1: operation between the Murdoch Press, the US intelligence deep state,
22:50
Speaker 1: the British intelligence deep state, the Israeli lobby, and the
22:54
Speaker 1: Conservative Party, and they created this story that the US
22:58
Speaker 1: would not be sharing until elligence anymore through the Five
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Speaker 1: Eyes if Jeremy Corbyn became prime minister, they would withdraw.
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Speaker 1: That was the implication. It was a massive full page
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Speaker 1: spread and it sent shockwaves through the intelligentsia and so
23:14
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, well, even if I like Corbin,
23:16
Speaker 1: it's just not going to work. We're going to lose
23:18
Speaker 1: our special relationship with the Americans. Washington did not want
23:22
Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbin anywhere near the premiership in Britain, and so
23:28
Speaker 1: it was the final blow was delivered by the Israeli
23:31
Speaker 1: lobby for Corbin and the Labor Party. But the US
23:36
Speaker 1: were very instrumental in that coup, that coup de tent.
23:39
Speaker 1: There's also the case of Golf Whitlam. A lot of
23:42
Speaker 1: people don't know this. This was the ousting of the
23:45
Speaker 1: Australian Prime Minister in nineteen seventy five over the issue
23:49
Speaker 1: of Pine Gap listening station. Like men with Hill Pine Gap,
23:55
Speaker 1: this was an essential nssay listening station used for everything
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Speaker 1: and Goff Whitlam wasn't so keen. This is coming on
24:03
Speaker 1: the heels of the Vietnam War. So the Labor Party
24:06
Speaker 1: in Australia were very much against that. They felt there's
24:09
Speaker 1: a good film, Falcon and the Snowman about this very
24:12
Speaker 1: issue with I think Timothy Hutton. This was in the eighties.
24:17
Speaker 1: So that was a coup in one of our allies,
24:20
Speaker 1: Democratic country. So the Deep State does coups abroad, does
24:25
Speaker 1: coups on their allies, and it will even coup itself
24:28
Speaker 1: if necessary. So that's kind of what we're dealing with there.
24:32
Speaker 1: And there's a lot, there's a lot to go in there.
24:34
Speaker 1: As someone mentioned about the postal vote, I think it
24:36
Speaker 1: was a rajah. This morning I witnessed that in the
24:40
Speaker 1: American elections, the twenty twenty two midterms and the twenty
24:44
Speaker 1: twenty presidential election. Massive mail in, ballot fraud, ballot harvesting.
24:50
Speaker 1: It was blatantly obvious, and they managed to throw a
24:54
Speaker 1: presidential election and then a mid term election two years later,
24:58
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I was in Arizona at the
25:01
Speaker 1: time and that was ground zero for some of this
25:04
Speaker 1: fraud uh in in our county, and it was incredible.
25:08
Speaker 1: It was incredible how quickly everybody wanted to say, we
25:10
Speaker 1: need to move on. We need to move on. It's
25:12
Speaker 1: too much toxicity. We need to just close the close
25:16
Speaker 1: the book on this and swear everybody in in January.
25:18
Speaker 1: There's no time for for any kind of appeal. Oh,
25:22
Speaker 1: the courts, we just don't have time. We just have
25:25
Speaker 1: to go with the result. That was this. That was
25:27
Speaker 1: the basic attitude. But yeah, even the United States can
25:31
Speaker 1: throw a national election and more more evidence will probably
25:37
Speaker 1: emerge in time over that. So this is this is interesting.
25:41
Speaker 1: Why Why would why would the British and why would
25:45
Speaker 1: the US establish want to push Donald Trump to be
25:47
Speaker 1: more anti Russian? Is it just because of the hangover
25:51
Speaker 1: from the Cold War or is there is there more
25:53
Speaker 1: to it. That's a good question and the answer is
25:57
Speaker 1: three hundred years of Anglo American geopolitical strategy, grand strategy
26:04
Speaker 1: and hegemony. Okay, this goes right back to the Great Game,
26:09
Speaker 1: the rivalry between Britain and the Russian Empire. It's legendary
26:14
Speaker 1: and it goes back centuries. So we're still and the
26:18
Speaker 1: Americans have inherited that via the Cold War and they're
26:22
Speaker 1: kind of running point on that. But it is definitely
26:24
Speaker 1: a dynamic duo between the British and the Americans on that.
26:28
Speaker 1: But that shows you that continuity of policy from presidency
26:31
Speaker 1: to presidency, from generation to generation, to the point where
26:35
Speaker 1: that's just the done thing. That's just the done thing.
26:39
Speaker 1: And you ask somebody why is that the done thing?
26:41
Speaker 1: And if they're not very well read up on history
26:43
Speaker 1: and honest about it, they might not know. To them,
26:46
Speaker 1: it's Putin's bad We've got good guys and bad guys,
26:52
Speaker 1: the Double Oh seventh film where the good guys you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: we're the honorable guys. This is very powerful image and
26:59
Speaker 1: it's so funny, uh not funny depressing. I had a
27:04
Speaker 1: conversation with a member of the British Armed Forces active duty.
27:10
Speaker 1: Uh probably put him about thirty thirty two years old
27:15
Speaker 1: and we got talking with another friend. So what do
27:19
Speaker 1: you do? I trained Ukrainians. I trained Ukrainians. I said,
27:24
Speaker 1: what do you train them for? To kill Russians? It's like, okay,
27:28
Speaker 1: I said. I just asked him, I said, what what
27:31
Speaker 1: have the Russians ever done to you? That? He's all
27:35
Speaker 1: I was ordered to do that. I will follow orders,
27:38
Speaker 1: and that's what my CEO tells me, and so I'm
27:40
Speaker 1: going to followers and I'm damn good at it, he said.
27:44
Speaker 1: I said, okay, that's interesting. Have you ever been to Russia? No?
27:48
Speaker 1: Have you ever met any Russians? No? Have you ever
27:51
Speaker 1: been to Ukraine? No? And the conversation fizzled out pretty quick,
27:56
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to keep it pleasant because we
28:00
Speaker 1: had mutuals. So, but it kind of gave me a
28:03
Speaker 1: look into this idea of good guys and bad guys.
28:07
Speaker 1: There's Manichean, Manichean whichever you pronounce it. Worldview's black and
28:13
Speaker 1: white worldview, and that's the real fuel. You have to
28:16
Speaker 1: buy into this, some of these long hereditary assumptions and
28:21
Speaker 1: a bit of political mythology, if you will, or the
28:26
Speaker 1: fetishization of history. It's very important if you don't buy
28:30
Speaker 1: into some of these deep, deep assumptions. There's no way
28:33
Speaker 1: you could do your job, and there's no ways people
28:35
Speaker 1: would do some of the things that they're doing. They're
28:37
Speaker 1: working for the state, working for the military, or the
28:39
Speaker 1: intelligence apparatus, or the mainstream media for that matter. And
28:43
Speaker 1: it turns out, yes, they all went to the same schools,
28:46
Speaker 1: the higher ups anyway, and they're on the same lodges
28:49
Speaker 1: as well. So there's something to be said about the
28:52
Speaker 1: social networks. But you know, all world orders, all world orders,
28:59
Speaker 1: no matter how big they are, they all end the
29:02
Speaker 1: same way. They all fizzle out. There's not one of
29:05
Speaker 1: them that doesn't. All empires collapse and they transmute into
29:11
Speaker 1: something different. Europe is a good example. How many world
29:15
Speaker 1: empires are contained within the European continent, like five or six,
29:20
Speaker 1: maybe more. Add Britain to that. It's quite a history,
29:24
Speaker 1: but the world changed. It's not nineteen hundred anymore. It's
29:28
Speaker 1: not eighteen hundred, it's not seventeen hundred. It's definitely not
29:32
Speaker 1: Vasco de Gama's world in the late fifteen hundreds. Look
29:36
Speaker 1: at Portugal and Spain now, the basket cases of Europe
29:42
Speaker 1: so far cry from where they were before. Ruling over
29:46
Speaker 1: half the planet. So these things come in cycles. And
29:50
Speaker 1: this is an interesting quote by Antonio Gramsheet, who is
29:57
Speaker 1: by all estimations a very well known Marxist philosopher, but
30:03
Speaker 1: when you're studying geopolitics, it's sometimes interesting. He said, the
30:08
Speaker 1: old world is dying, the new world struggles to be born.
30:13
Speaker 1: Now is the time of monsters. And he is talking
30:17
Speaker 1: about something called the interregnum. This is the period between
30:22
Speaker 1: world orders, or between Caesar's when the sovereign dies, for
30:27
Speaker 1: instance in ancient Rome, where they it's almost as if
30:31
Speaker 1: everything is suspended until there's a new regime or a
30:34
Speaker 1: new ruler put into place, even the rule of law,
30:38
Speaker 1: even the rule of law. So this is an interesting concept,
30:43
Speaker 1: and he revised this. He was a great historian. He
30:47
Speaker 1: died sadly. He was very ill. I think he died
30:50
Speaker 1: in prison or just after he was released. He was
30:52
Speaker 1: interned in Turin, up in the industrial the industrial hub
30:57
Speaker 1: of northern Italy. He didn't like him very much, regard
31:02
Speaker 1: him as a threat. He was a very formidable thinker,
31:06
Speaker 1: albeit on the left. But what he's saying here is
31:10
Speaker 1: so relevant. The unipolar world or the bipolar world is dying.
31:15
Speaker 1: The multipolar world is in the process of being born.
31:22
Speaker 1: The question is what is that going to look like?
31:24
Speaker 1: And what's that process going to be like? Is it
31:27
Speaker 1: going to be painful? Is it going to be violent?
31:30
Speaker 1: You look at some of the things that have taken
31:32
Speaker 1: place just over the last year and a half, last
31:35
Speaker 1: three years, I would say Grahamshey is very much on
31:39
Speaker 1: the money on this. And this is why I chose
31:43
Speaker 1: this quote for other presentations speaking in front of other people,
31:48
Speaker 1: even foreign diplomats, because I think it's just so apt.
31:52
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a good book to read. Here
31:56
Speaker 1: is by a great English historian. His name is Edward
32:00
Speaker 1: Hallett Carr eh Car, and it's called the I think
32:07
Speaker 1: the twenty Years Crisis, if I have that correct, maybe
32:11
Speaker 1: thirty years Crisis. But he's talking about the interwar period,
32:14
Speaker 1: the collapse of the international system. And this is one
32:18
Speaker 1: of the most dense and enlightening pieces of history you
32:22
Speaker 1: could possibly have in one hundred and fifty pages or
32:25
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and he just outlines everything that happened,
32:29
Speaker 1: chapter and verse, and I'm reading this and I'm like,
32:31
Speaker 1: this is like relevant to twenty twenty five in the
32:35
Speaker 1: most profound way. He's in a very interesting life. He
32:40
Speaker 1: had eh Car. But this interwar period, we're in a
32:45
Speaker 1: very similar period. We're in this transition that Car and
32:49
Speaker 1: Gramsheet talk about where Europe is just completely militarized. Nationalism
32:55
Speaker 1: is coming up and not not always for the right reasons.
32:59
Speaker 1: Imperial is still hanging on by its fingernails. And you
33:04
Speaker 1: have these complex alliances, entangling alliances like NATO is an example,
33:11
Speaker 1: or like the G seven and then you have NATO accelerationism, militarism.
33:15
Speaker 1: Where back then, before the First World War as well,
33:20
Speaker 1: more so before the First World War, that there was
33:22
Speaker 1: this belief in Europe that problems could only be solved
33:26
Speaker 1: through military means, We must go to war. Does that
33:29
Speaker 1: sound familiar? This is Brussels right now, this is Europe.
33:33
Speaker 1: We need to rearm Europe totally insane. Where does the
33:37
Speaker 1: thinking come from and where does this neo conservative resurgence
33:42
Speaker 1: in America come from? Where now the neo cons want
33:45
Speaker 1: to turn Iran into a glass crater. Well, I'm old
33:48
Speaker 1: enough to have heard that before the Iraq War. After
33:51
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, we're going to turn it into a
33:54
Speaker 1: gd glass crater and a parking lot. And that is
33:58
Speaker 1: the rhetoric you have in America right now. And I'm
34:00
Speaker 1: talking to somebody that I haven't voted Democrat in many, many,
34:04
Speaker 1: many years, a few decades. So I'm shocked at what's
34:10
Speaker 1: being set on the right, more shocked about the silence
34:14
Speaker 1: on the left, actually, which is very telling. So we're
34:19
Speaker 1: in this cycle rearming Europe. Very interesting. I don't think
34:24
Speaker 1: it's going to work, but we'll see how deep they
34:28
Speaker 1: go into a hole before they figure that one out.
34:31
Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of unfortunate byproducts of this.
34:36
Speaker 1: One of them is the attack on free speech in
34:39
Speaker 1: America under Trump. You guys noticed who watched the inauguration
34:43
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. It was one of the most watched
34:46
Speaker 1: in history. It was it just me because I feel like,
34:50
Speaker 1: you know, when you have those dreams you wake up
34:52
Speaker 1: and it's so real and you realize, oh my god,
34:54
Speaker 1: did that actually happen? This is one of the Did
34:56
Speaker 1: Donald Trump not put his hand on the Bible when
34:59
Speaker 1: he's war his oath? Did you notice that? You noticed that? Okay,
35:04
Speaker 1: thank you? I thought it was just me. I thought
35:06
Speaker 1: it was a bad dream. Because Donald Trump has basically
35:09
Speaker 1: declared war on the First Amendment in the United States.
35:13
Speaker 1: They're they're they're they're locking up and deporting legal residents
35:19
Speaker 1: for criticizing the state of Israel or for doing human
35:24
Speaker 1: rights demonstrations and support are protesting the genocide in Gaza.
35:29
Speaker 1: That's for real legal residents, not for criticizing the US government,
35:36
Speaker 1: but for criticizing criticizing a foreign government. Okay, that's that's something.
35:44
Speaker 1: So he's he would be in violation of his oath,
35:47
Speaker 1: because in America, you don't swear allegiance to the government
35:51
Speaker 1: or to protect the government. You swear to defend the
35:55
Speaker 1: United States Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well,
36:01
Speaker 1: if the president is declaring war on the First Amendment,
36:06
Speaker 1: the most important of all rights, of which all your
36:09
Speaker 1: other rights are derived from, that to me is an
36:14
Speaker 1: egregious violation of someone's oath and very un American for
36:19
Speaker 1: someone who drapes himself in the American flag. Don't get
36:22
Speaker 1: me wrong, I want Trump to succeed, want I want
36:25
Speaker 1: America to do well and to do right in the world.
36:28
Speaker 1: But this is not right. And I see a lot
36:31
Speaker 1: of his supporters they're not seeing that this is actually happening.
36:34
Speaker 1: That you think a Green card holder or a foreign
36:37
Speaker 1: student is okay that it's not going to affect you
36:41
Speaker 1: as a citizen. Oh they're coming for you too, you
36:45
Speaker 1: can be sure about that. But that's not how our
36:48
Speaker 1: law works. Americans don't even know how their constitution works.
36:52
Speaker 1: They'll find out in the courts eventually, because I think
36:54
Speaker 1: some of this stuff will get overturned in the Supreme Court.
36:58
Speaker 1: But the First Amendment is to restrain the government. It
37:02
Speaker 1: doesn't give you any rights. It restrains the state from
37:08
Speaker 1: violating your inalienable rights, your natural rights, which is the
37:12
Speaker 1: right to free speech. Even an illegal alien as they say,
37:17
Speaker 1: or legal immigrant, has First Amendment rights in the United States,
37:21
Speaker 1: believe it or not. If you're on your US jurisdiction,
37:25
Speaker 1: you have First Amendment rights. You might have to go
37:27
Speaker 1: through the court to win those back, but you know,
37:33
Speaker 1: we'll see. So this multipolar world, what's it going to
37:36
Speaker 1: look like? This is a good question. This is causing
37:40
Speaker 1: a lot of headaches in the deep State in the West,
37:44
Speaker 1: so much so they're resorting to ever more desperate measures,
37:47
Speaker 1: including blowing up pipelines. Don't get me started on this.
37:52
Speaker 1: I could do a whole three hour presentation on that one.
37:56
Speaker 1: But as usual with these presentation only get to about
38:01
Speaker 1: ten percent of what I wanted to talk about. But
38:04
Speaker 1: that's how it goes. We can talk about it later,
38:07
Speaker 1: but just to wrap it up, I'll wrap it up.
38:10
Speaker 1: And there's a lot I could say about COVID about
38:14
Speaker 1: what I thought that was, what it really meant. I
38:17
Speaker 1: wrote a lot about it, so published a lot of
38:19
Speaker 1: papers on that and the technocracy that's coming in. And
38:25
Speaker 1: what I'll say about the technocracy, I'll say two things. One,
38:28
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is not your friend. That's the first thing
38:32
Speaker 1: I can be absolutely sure of that. And he's not
38:34
Speaker 1: a working class hero. I mean, that's a hell of
38:37
Speaker 1: a feat they pulled off there to make the richest
38:39
Speaker 1: man in the world market it as a working class hero.
38:42
Speaker 1: This is you can't go any higher than this in
38:45
Speaker 1: terms of gymnastics, marketing, gymnastics, and public relations. But the
38:51
Speaker 1: main thing you need to know about the technocracy, which
38:54
Speaker 1: I think is important, is I saw a graph recently
38:58
Speaker 1: about or mean IQ in some Western countries. Guess which
39:04
Speaker 1: way it's going. It's going down. It's the wrong way, right.
39:09
Speaker 1: And we all thought when Wikipedia came online, you remember
39:12
Speaker 1: that in late nineties, if we just had the world
39:16
Speaker 1: at our fingertips, the information of all of history, the
39:20
Speaker 1: archives of Alexandria, all of that, all at our fingertips.
39:25
Speaker 1: Think of what the world would be like. That's what
39:27
Speaker 1: we're thinking back in ninety nine. In two thousand, Wow, Wow,
39:31
Speaker 1: we're going to be so smart. Our kids are going
39:33
Speaker 1: to be so smart. Don't get me wrong, there's a
39:35
Speaker 1: lot of smart kids out there. The smart ones today
39:38
Speaker 1: are really smart. That's a separate discussion, but in general,
39:42
Speaker 1: the numbers are going down. Now do you think the
39:44
Speaker 1: introduction of AI as an appendage is going to improve
39:50
Speaker 1: that graph? I don't think so. But what you need
39:54
Speaker 1: to worry about that graph when you see the front
39:57
Speaker 1: row of the Trump administration with the the head of
40:00
Speaker 1: Google Sunjai Pichai, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Besos, Elon Musk, and
40:06
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other big tech moguls monopolists, their
40:13
Speaker 1: business model depends on that graph going down. Their profits
40:18
Speaker 1: go up as the graph goes down of intelligence. So
40:23
Speaker 1: they've already crossed paths on that X Y axis. So
40:29
Speaker 1: that's our future. And this is a big, big, big challenge.
40:33
Speaker 1: This is a huge, huge challenge, and I don't think
40:37
Speaker 1: it's going to be solved in our lifetimes or this generation.
40:41
Speaker 1: It's going to require an incredible paradigm shift and globally,
40:48
Speaker 1: and it may happen over a long period of time.
40:49
Speaker 1: But I think if we understand that relationship of those
40:53
Speaker 1: two factors, I think, if you just understand that relationship.
40:56
Speaker 1: I don't use AI that much because I do it.
41:00
Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a luddite. I didn't get a
41:02
Speaker 1: smartphone until twenty thirteen. I had a Mi Nokia Banana.
41:06
Speaker 1: I was very happy with it, but I had to
41:09
Speaker 1: basically cave because I was doing journalism in the field,
41:12
Speaker 1: so I needed to live stream and stuff like that
41:15
Speaker 1: on my phone. But I do use AI once in
41:17
Speaker 1: a while, and I use Elon's tool Grock. So Trump
41:23
Speaker 1: was doing a victory lap recently because he bombed a
41:27
Speaker 1: Yemeny tribal gathering and he said it was who he's
41:31
Speaker 1: plotting a terrorist attack and they filmed it. It was
41:33
Speaker 1: like the collateral murder video from wikilaks. You remember that,
41:37
Speaker 1: it's that bad. And Trump tweeted about it and was
41:42
Speaker 1: making fun dancing on the graves of the Yemenis. So
41:46
Speaker 1: I thought, well, takes one to know one. So that's
41:51
Speaker 1: the sort of thing I use AI for. But that's yeah.
41:55
Speaker 1: There's a lot more like to say on some of
41:57
Speaker 1: these topics, and maybe we'll get a chance to talk
41:59
Speaker 1: about it. But just understand that, pardon me, the Iron
42:10
Speaker 1: curtain has fallen and we're on the wrong side of it.
42:16
Speaker 1: So just understand that, and we're gonna have to tear
42:22
Speaker 1: it down. We're gonna have to tear it down, and
42:26
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have to play a part in that. And
42:28
Speaker 1: one of the important things is simple, simple, do not
42:35
Speaker 1: be complacent in the face of injustice. This is the
42:40
Speaker 1: rot and this is the thing that is killing Western civilization.
42:44
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Germany, Germany, Germany, They're so desperate to
42:52
Speaker 1: atone for their guilt of the Second World War that
42:56
Speaker 1: they're going to atone right down to the last Palestinian.
43:00
Speaker 1: Can you believe this? This is the apex of Europe,
43:04
Speaker 1: and Europe's the apex of Western civilization. And if that's
43:08
Speaker 1: the way things are, I will propose that Western civilization
43:13
Speaker 1: has failed. And this is why you're seeing a lot
43:18
Speaker 1: of this dysfunction or our systems of government, our elite
43:22
Speaker 1: cast our establishment has utterly failed. He's failed us, and
43:27
Speaker 1: they failed the world. They need to change course on this,
43:32
Speaker 1: and it has to do with the thinking. It's the mindset,
43:35
Speaker 1: this colonial mindset that most of us don't think we have.
43:39
Speaker 1: We actually do have, but we've been conditioned, we've been
43:43
Speaker 1: brainwashed for decades by the state, by the media to
43:48
Speaker 1: keep us basically on tightly within the guardrails of what
43:52
Speaker 1: they would like us to move within. And they're testing you.
43:58
Speaker 1: They're testing to see what your compliance. Love is. COVID
44:01
Speaker 1: vaccines is a good this was a good lesson for us.
44:05
Speaker 1: That was a test. They want to see how much
44:08
Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance. Brian called it reframing, which is right. But
44:12
Speaker 1: behind the reframing is cognitive dissonance. It's a spectrum of
44:16
Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance and your willingness to comply. This is a spectrum,
44:23
Speaker 1: and you'll get lots of important jobs if you fall
44:27
Speaker 1: on the right side of that spectrum within this system,
44:30
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you won't get those jobs, you
44:32
Speaker 1: won't be put in those managerial positions. So that's kind
44:36
Speaker 1: of generally, I think, the biggest challenge that we're facing now.
44:40
Speaker 1: And so it's not all it's not all lost. We
44:44
Speaker 1: can transform. It's all here, we can transform it. Just
44:48
Speaker 1: between our ears, we have the power to do that,
44:52
Speaker 1: and your guys. Support for organizations like the UK Column
44:56
Speaker 1: and all of our other independent media outlets and all
44:59
Speaker 1: the other content creators out there is a big part
45:01
Speaker 1: of that. This is my aside from my work which
45:05
Speaker 1: I love at the UK Column on Fridays doing the
45:07
Speaker 1: news with Mike Robinson and the extra segments some of
45:12
Speaker 1: which get leaked onto the internet like this week, which
45:15
Speaker 1: we're very entertaining. I have a show on Sunday called
45:18
Speaker 1: the Sunday Wire if you haven't watched it, And on
45:22
Speaker 1: Wednesday we have a Midweek Wire as well, and we
45:25
Speaker 1: talk about all these issues in depth and try to
45:28
Speaker 1: enlighten our audience. So thank you very much and appreciate
45:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here.