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He says he respects women. Watch what he does instead | Cozy Gaming Stream · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, welcome to honey Badger Radio. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Brian.
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  Speaker 3: want to just read some of the article before we
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  Speaker 3: go in, or go in and then read the article?
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  Speaker 1: What does your invite people in? And uh, we will
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  Speaker 1: I think we will have to start a level.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe we can just invite people in and then
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  Speaker 2: just talk a little about the article in the in
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  Speaker 2: this room, in the waiting waiting in the lobby area,
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  Speaker 2: in the lobbyer and and open ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Up Bobby of the lobby in the lobby and uh.
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  Speaker 3: And then what I think lobby is the Norwegian you know?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, maybe speaking of Norwegians. I'm going to invite him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I sent an invitation to Norwegian and to yours
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  Speaker 2: is not around, which is kind of weird.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to be doing this. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be doing this without Gabriel and without hell.
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  Speaker 3: That's hih that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so doing the call.
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  Speaker 3: I am trying. I am trying. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking
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  Speaker 3: for where the invitation went to. Ah, so I'm guessing
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  Speaker 3: you're playing with no regates.
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  Speaker 1: On the bottom right corner.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I got it. Now I just have to set everything
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  Speaker 3: up because it all has to be set up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, post your headset stuff and other control things.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, and I have to Did you guys get
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  Speaker 1: that Steam controller that wanted?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, we ordered it, but we
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  Speaker 3: still haven't gotten it. So I've muted you here so
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  Speaker 3: that will work, and now I will unmute myself.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there I go. No, I'm efficient. Didn't it's become
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  Speaker 3: so efficient. No, I haven't got the Steam the control yet.
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan was just able to order it like last week,
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  Speaker 3: and it was because he was like camping because the
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  Speaker 3: pair when uh, this this controller, it was going on
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  Speaker 3: And then they created like a I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: think a lottery system where if you were already okay,
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  Speaker 3: Johnthan is correcting me, so I have to go over
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  Speaker 3: and listen to his correction right now. Okay, it was
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  Speaker 3: they opened up a small window weeks after the fiasco
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  Speaker 3: in which a whole bunch of people purchased them to
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  Speaker 3: scalp them. So they opened up a small window for
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  Speaker 3: on the pre order list. It was first person, first come,
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  Speaker 3: first serve, so you had to wait for the email
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  Speaker 3: to come, and they only sent them out to registered
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  Speaker 3: Steam users. You can only order one based on your
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  Speaker 3: you know, through your Steam account based so that's you,
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  Speaker 3: and you would have had to have purchased something from
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  Speaker 3: all right within April, so even even less than six months,
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  Speaker 3: like just three months, okay, So they didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: have a whole bunch of dummy accounts stealing or not stealing,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, acquiring the equipment and then reselling it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so I'm good, let's go in.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps, yeah, hold on.
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  Speaker 3: Said anything?
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  Speaker 1: He said hello when he first came in.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he's being quiet today. Be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I think your sound in the game is better than
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  Speaker 2: it is in Discord. So we're gonna like use the game.
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  Speaker 1: Sound for now. All right, Okay, that's fine for now.
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  Speaker 2: But that means that it's proximity based, so like if
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  Speaker 2: you are uh far away from me, then you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: sound far away, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Just that's that's my concern that.
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  Speaker 2: That's part of like the that's part of what makes
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  Speaker 2: the game fun though, is the audio, Like when you
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  Speaker 2: touch certain things and it changes your voice.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we want that, we want that. Okay, so let's
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  Speaker 2: read a little bit of the article.
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  Speaker 1: Since there's no.
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  Speaker 3: Gabriel should be in the lobby.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, we should be in the lobby because
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  Speaker 2: if I clicked start, I think we're gonna get We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get thrust into a level. And once you're level,
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  Speaker 2: why I start coming.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is like the lobby, lobby, not the
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  Speaker 3: the shop.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you were thinking about the shop.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, yeah, yeah, I was thinking about the shop.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know Lindsay either, No, Lindsay, no table.
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  Speaker 1: No prose. We don't have any pros.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have any all the scrubs today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only level four. We'll be okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Famous last words.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, should I read?
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some of the article here and then.
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  Speaker 3: We'll are a level okay, okay, yep, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, this levels This is from medium dot com.
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  Speaker 3: This level, this level of medium mobsanity because we descended
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  Speaker 3: to this is like level nine in the in the
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  Speaker 3: Trip to Hell. Yeah, okay, we have not achieved the
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  Speaker 3: epicenter yet, but we're getting close. You can spell the sulfur.
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  Speaker 2: He says he respects women. Watch what he does instead
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  Speaker 2: by muskan whuro?
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  Speaker 1: Is that even a really?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not, it's probably a randomizer. But uh, I just
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  Speaker 3: I just want to start. I mean, maybe this is
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  Speaker 3: a positive movement. Like they're they're realizing that the sociopaths
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  Speaker 3: and narcissists favorite weapons or words, and they're like, well,
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  Speaker 3: maybe we shouldn't focus on the words and the signaling
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  Speaker 3: and the virtue signaling. Maybe we should focus on the
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  Speaker 3: actual behaviors of the men. Yeah, but of course that
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  Speaker 3: that there's a there's a meat hook reaction, because if
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  Speaker 3: you focus on the behaviors of men, then men might
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  Speaker 3: actually be able to say, hey, I don't behave in
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  Speaker 3: this bad way, or alternatively, I even go out of
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  Speaker 3: my way to prevent men who are genuinely engaging in
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  Speaker 3: harm against women, not just making them feel uncomfortable, but
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  Speaker 3: also like not also but actually doing something harmful. Therefore,
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  Speaker 3: I am not one of the bad guys based on
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  Speaker 3: my behavior or profile. Then feminists would be like, no,
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  Speaker 3: you can't say that. You can't say that because you
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  Speaker 3: have to constantly be insubmission to whatever we say in
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  Speaker 3: order to earn that title, which will never be given
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  Speaker 3: to you. Right. So, it's just like changing men's moral
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  Speaker 3: identity from some kind of relational web signaling, which they
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  Speaker 3: can never achieve because there it's based on other people's approval,
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  Speaker 3: and those other people change their approval minute by minute.
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  Speaker 3: To actually registering that you're a good person or a
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  Speaker 3: good man based on your actions, that's not allowed. Begin
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  Speaker 3: the article, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the subtle, structural, deeply normalized signs of a man
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  Speaker 2: who hates women and why most of us are trained
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  Speaker 2: not to name it.
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  Speaker 1: There is a particular kind of man can tell it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're trained not to name it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe your problem is that you name it
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  Speaker 3: too much rather than too little.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm.
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  Speaker 2: Or you see it where it doesn't exist, and therefore
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  Speaker 2: that's why you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, already you're not we're not starting this article on
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  Speaker 3: the right foot because I don't know. I don't trust
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  Speaker 3: you if you're making an observation like this. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think there's a lack of women naming evil in men.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a I mean, I would I would love.
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  Speaker 3: I would challenge this woman to name one thing that
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  Speaker 3: isn't evil about men in her in her opinion. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: see if she can manage that before she starts saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the real problem is that women can't name evil in men.
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  Speaker 3: Really hmm, that's a I don't see. That seems a
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  Speaker 3: little bit far fetched. Let's keep going, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, where was I?
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  Speaker 2: And yet there is something that sits wrong when you
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  Speaker 2: are around him, A pattern you can feel before you
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  Speaker 2: can articulate, or a series of small moments that individually
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  Speaker 2: seem dismissable but collectively add up to something You cannot
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  Speaker 2: uns once.
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  Speaker 1: You have seen it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is bullshit. I can just tell.
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  Speaker 1: Vibes all day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, vibes all day. No, no real understanding of anything. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So we're just going to go into the vibe guys.
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  Speaker 3: Prepare your vibezone, the vibe zone. Prepare your vibe hole
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  Speaker 3: for penetration.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen it in boardrooms and in autos, at
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  Speaker 2: house parties and across.
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  Speaker 1: Lot tables a autos. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think this is like I'm guessing this is
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  Speaker 2: like some kind of like lingo from.
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  Speaker 1: Five another country.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good one. Did you see that?
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  Speaker 1: What did he say?
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  Speaker 3: He said, vibe China, Get those vibe China's lubed up.
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  Speaker 3: We're going in with themobile.
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  Speaker 1: In the way men. Okay. So I've seen it in
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  Speaker 1: board rooms and in auto So I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: an auto is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's like, uh, like.
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  Speaker 1: I said, it's an automobile.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this person is English and it's like a British
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  Speaker 2: thing that they say.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know. Can anybody choice in Christy origin? Yep, mate,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what it means. I think this is auto.
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  Speaker 3: So I think this is I think this is a bot.
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  Speaker 3: It is probably written by a bot. Autos Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: could look it up, like, is there any slang like auto? Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm get it up now. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be like a limey in our chat.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell us, but at house parties and across
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  Speaker 2: lunch tables, in the way men speak to female colleagues
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  Speaker 2: versus male ones, the way they receive a woman's authority
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  Speaker 2: versus a man's.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up, oh lord, and I work inside it.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is bullshit. This is the There was
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  Speaker 3: a brief moment when we were like maybe the subtitle
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  Speaker 3: where this might have been going somewhere sane, like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: stop judging men by behaviors that are actually the behaviors
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  Speaker 3: of predators camouflaging their intent, and actually start looking at
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  Speaker 3: what men do to judge them. But no, no, we're
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  Speaker 3: we're going somewhere. We're going into We're going into grievancetown
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  Speaker 3: population imaginary. Okay, all right, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I have dated it, which gave me a
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  Speaker 2: kind of clothes range education I did not ask for
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  Speaker 2: but cannot return.
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  Speaker 3: This is in this context. In this context, auto is
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  Speaker 3: in Indian English for auto rickshaws three wheel tex because
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  Speaker 3: this woman is from India.
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  Speaker 2: Guessing she's from India, so she's got a particular accent
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  Speaker 2: grind with Indian men, and that's what this appears to be.
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  Speaker 3: About boardrooms and in audio with everyday street wrap transport. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so this is India. Great, So I'm guessing
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  Speaker 3: we're about to find out why India's birth rate has
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  Speaker 3: now created as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is not about whether these men are consciously malicious,
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  Speaker 2: because most of them are not, but they're still malicious,
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  Speaker 2: you see, which I think. I think malice requires some intent,
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  Speaker 2: Like you can't be accidental.
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  Speaker 3: No, it can't. It doesn't require actual intent. It requires
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  Speaker 3: indifference to So you can be act maliciously by simply
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  Speaker 3: being indifferent to the harms you might cause to another person,
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  Speaker 3: where a person who should who isn't like a callous
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  Speaker 3: a callous criminal beha in their behavior, would actually care
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  Speaker 3: that they what they're doing is likely to cause harm
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  Speaker 3: to another person. So malice does include indifference to harm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't doesn't have to be active, just be indifferent. So
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  Speaker 3: she's not for closing the possibility of using the term malice,
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  Speaker 3: because of course that's where all this lands men malice
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  Speaker 3: mm hm, the horrible patriarchy of being. Okay, let's let's continue.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: This is not about whether these men were consciously malicious,
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  Speaker 2: because most of them are not. What I'm writing about
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  Speaker 2: is misogyny that has been so thoroughly internalized, so carefully
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  Speaker 2: normalized by the culture we all grew up in that
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  Speaker 2: the man.
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  Speaker 1: In his own behavior.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, he can't locate it in his own behavior.
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  Speaker 3: That would mean the struggle session could end because he
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  Speaker 3: could be like, I don't engage in this behavior. There's
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  Speaker 3: a defense. We can't actually, we can't actually locate misogyny
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  Speaker 3: in actual behaviors, because that would mean that this would
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  Speaker 3: no longer be a tool for dominating men, right, for
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  Speaker 3: making them dance, making them subordinate to you. Yep, so
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  Speaker 3: because yep, all right. I Meanwhile, she's insisting that men
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  Speaker 3: are the ones who want to dominate women. Why is
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  Speaker 3: it that every time women engage in a behavior that
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  Speaker 3: is explicitly about dominating men, they engage in it with
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  Speaker 3: a rhetorical flourish that somehow ties it back to men
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  Speaker 3: wanting to dominate them. M It's like I'm not punching you,
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  Speaker 3: okay our bludgeon. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, all right, you
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  Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. So they always lay down this
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  Speaker 3: this this this trap, like men want to dominate women,
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  Speaker 3: and now here's how I'm going to dominate men. And
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  Speaker 3: it's like, well, we can we go back to zero
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  Speaker 3: point one and just really determine, because the thing is
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  Speaker 3: that when you're constantly like this is this is the
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  Speaker 3: sum like a good portion of feminism, which is a
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  Speaker 3: good portion apparently of how women talk about themselves and
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  Speaker 3: advocate for themselves, At least according to feminists and according
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  Speaker 3: to my own observations, feminism tends to have a monopoly
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  Speaker 3: on advocacy quote unquote from women's interests, and every time
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  Speaker 3: they do, almost every time, it's a substantial portion. I
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  Speaker 3: would say, ninety percent. Plus I'm getting beeps, think I
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  Speaker 3: might be Are you guys still hearing me? All right? Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm gonna go back here, see if that works.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So a substantial portion of feminist advocacy appears
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  Speaker 3: to be of the form this is how we are
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  Speaker 3: now going to dominate men? All right, this is this
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  Speaker 3: is what we are going to do. These are the
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  Speaker 3: steps that we're taking. We're this is how we deny
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  Speaker 3: men personhood, and we basically, you know, shuck out their
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  Speaker 3: brains and replace a puppeting system. You know, I just
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  Speaker 3: this is this is what we're gonna do now. And
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  Speaker 3: then they're like, but you know, we're doing it because
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  Speaker 3: men want to dominate women. Not sourced or proven, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like it's like it's it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: it's again something that proves its opposites. It's like you
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  Speaker 3: would think that if men wanted to dominate women, they
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  Speaker 3: would catch this and be like, no, sister, you're not
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  Speaker 3: doing this. But men seem to fall for this constantly.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they start, Okay, men want to dominate women.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you have to be completely subordinate to me
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  Speaker 3: in all things. And men are like, okay, okay, I
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  Speaker 3: guess that's right. That makes sense. After all, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: want to be one of those other men anyway, Let's
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  Speaker 3: keep going, all right, he.
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  Speaker 2: Has been marinating in patriarchy his entire life, so they
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  Speaker 2: put him in a bag of patriarchy and let it
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  Speaker 2: sit for you know, twenty four hours in the fridge.
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  Speaker 2: So have we, which is so I'm sorry, so have we,
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  Speaker 2: which is partly why it takes us so long to
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  Speaker 2: name what we are seeing. And it is there, and
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  Speaker 2: once you know what to look for, it is everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: What are you gonna tell us what.
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  Speaker 1: To look for? Is it these suites? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So okay, this is like.
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  Speaker 1: The end of a section. We can probably Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: this is.
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  Speaker 3: A really long one. We might want to do a
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  Speaker 3: couple more sections.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, I thought you said it wasn't that long.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Lie, but non intentionally it wasn't without any malice.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I see, I see.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, well no, it wasn't lie without any intention, just indifference,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and yet it affects us both very negatively. I was
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: gonna say that, Okay, okay, let's do that then, all right.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: He praises women in the abstract and dismisses them in
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the specific. He will say he believes in women's empowerment,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: share Instagram posts about gender equality, tell you his favorite
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: authors are women, that he finds strong women inspiring, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that he was raised to respect them. And then a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: specific woman will walk into the room with an opinion,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: an objection, a promotion, idea, and watch how quickly the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: abstraction evaporates.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: No, that's called like, what if the specific opinion is stupid? Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Just saying that he'll consider your opinion or he won't
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: dismiss it on account of you being a woman doesn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: mean all your stupid thoughts get rubber stamped. I mean
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it does in a lot of case. So I'm guessing
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: that I'm guessing that this woman just has a lot
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: of stupid thoughts, and she's like, no, it's not because
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I'm stupid. It's because of patriarchy. All the men are
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: rejecting my thoughts.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: What if? What if?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like when she says a specific woman,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: she's just talking about herself, like I had this bad experience.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It must be the fault of patriarchy, right, yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And it can't be my fault. I mean, I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: can't be the one who's just offering dumb opinions. Yeah, Like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I mean I know that this is just bringing this again,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: doing the woman thing and just bringing my own life
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of experience. I don't have guys dismissing my opinions very often, right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Like this have a whole freaking discord for guys who
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: are like, oh yes, tell me your opinions else I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: would like to hear them and consider them. So I'm like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: it's not like every woman is getting her opinions dismissed.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm getting like, not just opinions on feminism, but
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: opinions on like commodities market like silver, opinions on naval precurement,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: opinions on cognitive modalities, opinions on how threat narratives influence
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: financial structures. So it's like a lot of different kinds
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: of opinions that I have that men listen to and
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: seem to find interesting in so far as they either
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: pay for me to make more of them or sit
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: there and listen to them for an hour, you know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm like, I don't know, lady, is
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: it really because you're a woman. It's because your opinions
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: are I mean, if you told me your opinion, lady,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I could probably tell you from reading this article, I
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: could probably tell you it's not the fact that you're
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: a woman. It's the fact you're an idiot. There you go,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: there's your problem. You have nothing interesting to say?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Oh what you cut out right there?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, I guess I guess my internet decided I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: had nothing interesting to say, because that's what I said,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: You have nothing interesting to say. Yeah, that's the thing.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Like in these women who say this, they never consider
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: that they are the problem. That they have nothing interesting
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: to say, they have nothing interesting to add, and that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: is why men are not interesting interested in the things
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: that they have to add. And in fact, it's the
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: guys who are still interested even when I would actually
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: be sort of suspicious if I were this woman, I'd
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: be sort of suspicious of the men who remain interested
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: because they're probably after something. Yeah, yeah, they're probably circling.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so let's go.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he will find her aggressive too much or
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: not as good as people say. The woman in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: abstract is easy to champion. She is not asking for anything,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: not threatening anything. The specific woman, the one that's actually
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in front of him taking up space and authority and air,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is a different problem entirely. So you admit then that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like women can be threatening and that men shouldn't have
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: an issue with that, like I do. I don't I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: have an issue with anybody threatening me, but okay, or
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: being aggressive? Can you just call it what it is
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like if it happens, of course not. This is what
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: feminist scholars call benevolent sexism, a term introduced by psychologist
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Peter Glick and Susan Fiskey. It is the kind of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: sexism that masquerades is admiration. Women are wonderful so long
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: as they remain in the categories assigned to them, warm, supportive,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: non threatening. The moment of or victim the moment a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: woman steps outside those categories the benevolence kurdles. So basically,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: he does not hate women, but he hates women who
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: do not perform womanhood the way he was taught to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: expect it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Oh God, this is so bad.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's another and a long line of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: really bad takes. It's a long, storied history, a legacy,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: if you will, of terrible takes from the same people.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's exhausting. I have woman fatigue.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: But okay, anyway, before you get into the next session,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I did get a super chow and a super chat,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: so I'll go ahead and read those.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I have a super chow from before. Grey Indors gives
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and said this was earlier today, Brian.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Throughout your queer gaming video you've made two days ago,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you had some remarks about Braid as an example of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a Wolke propaganda game. I actually like that game very much.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: It's obviously a labor of love, and.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: The game mechanics are such that you are constantly being
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: challenged with new gameplay concepts.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Regarding the plot.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I would say that your interpretation of it is very understandable. However,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: as Jonathan Blow himself has said, it's all very open ended.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I would say that the so called princess in the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: game cannot necessarily be viewed as a trustworthy narrator as well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: so who is to say who is the monster anyway?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And given the fact that HBr has been dealing with
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so many stories about women making false harassment claims, this
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: interpretation might not be so outlandish anyway. I would agree
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: with you only if I thought that the developer, Jonathan Blow,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: was someone who would be as critical of false allegations
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: as we are, and I seriously doubt that. The other
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: thing is that the fact that it's left open to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: interpretation already suggests that it has a postmodern view coming
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: out of the gate, which is like, what do you
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: think it's about? And I don't I think that that's
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: like those gray areas is it's ripe for this kind
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: of like subversive storytelling. And again I never said that
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: subversive storytelling is always bad. But everyone's takeaway from Braid,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: from every like video, essay, and review I've seen at
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: least most of them, and yes, I know this is anecdotal,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: is that it is an inversion of the the damsel
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in distress insofar as instead of you rescuing the damsel
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: from a you know, an evil man or an evil
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: beast of some kind, you are the beast and there
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: is a you know, the damsel.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Is who you are chasing.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's sort of like still treating women as an object
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: or the ball and men are the agents. So that's
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: my opinion on it. But I never played. I did
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: play a little bit, but I got bored because it
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't that interesting to me. I got another super chowd
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: from Reverse Official Reverse Traditionalism channel on YouTube for five dollars,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and he says, why does everybody think that blurred lines
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is a rape anthem? When Robin Thick spends the whole
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: song talking about how much he hates blurred lines. Interesting,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that's actually similar to the thing I just talked about,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: because what the author or the creator or the songwriter
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: or the lyricists wanted to say is irrelevant compared to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: how people choose to interpret it. So it's been popularized
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: by feminists as a rape anthem because they decided it was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter what Robin Thick meant. And in fact,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: when you are stood here trying to make the logical
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: argument as to why they are wrong, you're kind of
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: wasting wasting your breath because they don't care. They don't
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: care about hypocrisy, they don't care about your interpretation. They
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: just they just have their message and they're gonna push it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And yeah, we just have to understand that. So but
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I I guess I see where you're coming from. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: just I just know it's a fruitless endeavor. Endeavor Okay,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I want, I want tom.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, keep going.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I got one more super chat from Senior Stix and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: he says, Alison, are you a robo maid with the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: robot voice?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That that's it?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I get a maid. Yeah, I could not avoid a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: fmoid No way, effembot effembot.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Effemoid, sure ef femoid avoid I don't.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I oh yeah, that's right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Isn't supposed to be a woman creature.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I haven't really looked very deeply into the entomology and etymology, etymology, etymology, etymology.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: That sounds like at amommy nah, Okay, that's fine. Well,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I mean it does have a lot of toys, so
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: maybe it's not really okay. But anyway, I do like
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: it myself, but I can understand why one might not. Anyway,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: uh am I a foid. I don't know. I'll leave
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: that up to the viewer. I wanted to add to
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the segment that we just read. So what we have
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: here is a woman wants to go into a space,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: a functional space where men are doing functional things, like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: for example, running the electric company, and she wants the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: men in that company to simply regard everything that comes
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: out of her mouth as the lord's word or I
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: don't know, the word of aristocracy, that it is inviolate.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It cannot be questioned, it cannot be criticized, It can
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: only be accepted and worshiped. Well, how are you going
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to like if men are expected not to hold women
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: to the standards of the industries and the careers and
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the organizations that they are now allowed to have a
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: say in. How do you expect to maintain those organizations
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and industries and careers in any capacity. Is this maybe
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: this is the reason why when women go in something
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: the pay goes down, because the general work ethic goes
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: down because everybody has to be respected for being a
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: woman rather than judged as a functional member of the team.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: And the thing is that, like I would tend to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: be inclined to believe that women over characterize men as
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: being disrespectful when a woman goes into a male space,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and the problem is she doesn't realize that he is
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: treating her like other men. Other men have to put
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: up or shut up. Other men have to show up.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Other men have to prove what their worth is and
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: they can expect criticism if they don't measure up to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the standard. Right, And that's that is the culture of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: that of workplaces that have to deal with reality, because
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: reality doesn't care you know you you want to feel
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: good about your model, You don't you want to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: respected as a woman while the plane falls out of
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the sky regardless and care about your feelings as a woman.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: It only cares about your ability to understand it and
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: respond to it effectively. And so the so what she's
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: doing is she's again, if there's no room in her
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: understanding for her being an idiot, for her adding nothing,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: for her being a scrub, for her being incompetent and
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: legitimately called out for that, she doesn't belong in anything
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: related to anything reality. You see what I'm saying. Because
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want her plan I don't want her designing
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: an airplane. I don't want her flying an airplane. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: don't want her in the electricity company. I don't want
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: her in firefighting. I don't want her in inc capacity
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: where her self evaluation has to be superior to recognizing reality.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. Like everybody's like, oh no,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: it's more important to make sure that she's unoffended and
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: feels good about herself than make sure that people aren't
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: dying as a result of her action. Yeah. No, Keep
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: them the fuck out of everything related to dealing with reality.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Keep women in their harems, and if you can't handle it,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: go back to your harem. Lady. Right now, I can
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: tell you what your problem is. Your problem is you
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: cannot accept the fact that you might be an idiot
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: and that these people, these men's evaluations. Funny that you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: she goes into an industry that has functioned just fine
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: without women for however many decades. She goes in and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the men are like, yeah, you're doing it wrong, and
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: she's like, you just don't respect women. What is the
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: likelihood that you are actually doing it wrong? You go
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: in and you can't even learn from the people who
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: establish the industry, who've run it, who've maintained it. No,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: they're the ones who have to change. They're the ones
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: who have to put your self concept before keeping things working.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: And we wonder, why how many refinery fires have we
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: had in the life six months? Yeah? I think I
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I think I can see part of the problem.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so I'll do a little bit more.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do a level?
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, where are we at?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: We'll get to a third and then we'll all right.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's, let's face it, we're probably the likelihood
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: that we start this level and we all die it
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: is really high. I'm just saying I don't have our anchors.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: No fucking you know.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: You're no slouch. Oh yeah, I'm not worried about that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I already knew that. Just saying that, you know, the
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the absence of the additional man to carry me might
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: be a problem.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'll read another I'll read another section. All right, so
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: here's more sound. Right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: He talks over women in rooms where he should know better. Uh,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and this one is everywhere in corporate Indiana. I suspect
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: everywhere else too, in any room, bathrooms, waiting rooms.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: You know what's really funny is again, this is better
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: explained people who who don't talk over me. I don't
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: accept your no, man, Okay, this, this, this entire article
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: is better explained by incredibly entitled, socially entitled people going
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: into spaces where you're expected to be judged by what
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you do, how you perform, how you interface with reality,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and not who you are, and just it's just a
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: cold shock, right, It's just like, oh my god, I'm
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: expecting social deference and I'm not getting it. That's what
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: this is. And then they construct an entire narrative around it. Oh,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: this is a patriarchy. No, it's a completely different cognitive modality.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: It's the cognitive modality that deals with reality, not your ego,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: and that when you go there, expect me to have
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: your ego mushed. It's not be catered to anyway.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I just I think that that's it's so these I mean,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it's weird because these are first world problems, but this
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: is almost the third world country.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Ye how many levels of entitlament are we talking here?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like anything, I understand why these men want
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: all these h one b's because they're trying to get
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: away from these women. No, I mean it it all
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: it's borderline the third world.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I say borderline and I'm trying to be.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Realistic, but the because it's not like the congo and ship.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's it's it's funny because I it,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know like this.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You would think Alison dropped off It's all right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Uh you would think that because I mean, she wasn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: talking on discord either for some reason, although she can
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: still hear me, but I couldn't hear her, so I
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: had she has to like get her audio working over there.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But uh, in the meantime, Uh, yeah, I know. It's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just wild that, like, you know, these these women who
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: live in borderline third world countries can complain about the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: first world like they're in the first world.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Allison, what what did you say something?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did I did it? Okay, I did I
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: did They're low.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hear you.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You got to reinvite me, you got to reinvite me.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened to me? I'm gonna invite I don't know.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: That was wrong, writer, ignore that, all right?
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, No, I wasn't.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You were saying? Was that?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Okay? No, I'm fine, I'm good, We're good, right, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I'm back. Let's uh, let's finish off the section and
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: then go into the game.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So it's almost like an hour in and we still
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: haven't gone to the game, which is entirely my fault.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not blaming you.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not taking the blame. That's good because yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So he talks over women in rooms where he should
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: know better. This one is everywhere in corporate India, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I suspect everywhere else too. He will let go wonder
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: a woman finish her sentence sometimes and then he will
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: speak and something about the weight. He gives his own
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: words versus hers will be immediately physically different, or he
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: will repeat what he what she just said, slightly rephrased,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and the room will respond to his version in the.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Way it did not respond to hers.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Do these men know something that you don't like? And
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: nowhere in this is being able to appraise the speech
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: based on its understand any of reality or what needs
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to be done. Have you noticed that it's completely absent.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: It's like it's not even it's not even gestured at,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: because you know, some some more savvy feminist operators will say, oh,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I have I have the knowledge. He just refuses to
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: knowledge it because I am.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Literally like no.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: But she's not even doing that. She's not even saying, oh, well,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: I have expertise in this. She's not even gesturing at that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: She's just like, I am a woman. Oh well, do
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: you do you have any Do you have any do
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you have any actual expertise in super conductive metals? No,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: but I'm a woman. Therefore my opinion is more valuable
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: than yours. Cue the blowing up of the lab. Like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: there's not even a gesture to that in this. She's
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: just like striding in wherever she wants, like a railway
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: of being being built. It's like you should put it
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: over there, right, yeah, well do you have any expertise? No,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a woman, you know. She strides into like a
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's in? What's in't?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: What's it? Not? India the pharmacy, And she's like, you
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: shouldn't compound these drugs in this manner. You should do
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: it in this manner. And then they're liked, well, do
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: you have give any expertise? And is no, I'm a woman.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: That's like she's not even saying it. She's just basically
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: by expertise, as I have boobs, what more do I need? Uh? Well,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: it's not really the fat on your chest, sort of
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the fat between your ears the matter. But okay, all.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean I would hope it's not fat, but
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: like some kind of glinated.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: No, it's milinated. It's mylination is fat. It's very critical
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to being able to think, you're your neurons need to
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: be warm to think far. Okay, let's cook.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so or he will ask a clarifying question to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the main sitting next to the man sitting next to her,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: as if she is not the one who spoke. But
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: when a woman's words are received differently, not because of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: what she said, but because of who said them, that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: is not a communication style difference. That is a structural
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: devaluation dressed as a personality quirk.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: He maybe because you're go ahead, no, continue to continue.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: No, uh, he does not think he is doing it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: That is precisely the problem. Yeah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't even have authority over his own intentions
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: or mind. Okay, all right, Maybe the problem is that
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: your cognitive modality isn't up to the task. And I
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: can tell you right now that you are showing every
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: sign of that this is the case. You're going into
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a space that has to deal with reality and demanding
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: that that space cater to your ego. Get the fuck out, lady,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: and do let the do let the door hit you
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: on the as you go out. Get the hell out
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: of that space. You don't belong there. If you're going
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: in ego first, you don't belong. And I can tell
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: you why they're asking the qualified question of the man
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: next to you, because he's probably not making the space
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: about his ego, even though you insist on seeing that
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: in that way. How are men all making the space
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: about their ego? How is that possible? How is it
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: possible for men to be cooperating at this level to
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: construct all of this infrastructure at the same time as
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: making everything about their ego? H How is that possible.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: The answer is it isn't. So men aren't going into
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: the space and making it about their ego. They're going
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: into the space and making it about making sure the
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: goal of the space is met. Why it exists is
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: meant making sure the electricity is delivered, making sure the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: sewers work, making sure that the fires are fought efficiently,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: all of the goals of these spaces. That's why they're there.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: That's why men throughout history predominantly do this work. It
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: has like this goal directed work in groups, okay, And
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: why women don't because they go into these spaces and
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: they demand that they cater to their egos and their
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: sense of their status. All right, And why if you
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: aren't new in this space, like you just wandered into
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: the space, right, you're the newbie, and you're like, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: know everything, and you should all listen to No, you
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: have to prove yourself, my dear, just like every other
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: man likely had to do before he got his opinion respected.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: He didn't have to say, oh, but as a woman,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: because he's not a woman. Do you think all the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: men there are just like, oh, we're respecting every opinion
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: of every man over just because they're men. Do do
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: you honestly think this is a kid's model of how
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: how the world works? You think every man there is like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: oh well, oh, mister man man, I of course respect
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: your opinion. You've just wandered in from the street and
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: you have no knowledge of the subject matter. But I
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: respect your opinion because it's delivered with a penis. That's
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: not how the world works, you dumb bent? That is Oh,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: it is dumb. It's like I said, everything is, everything
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: is slowly but inextor ply. The gravity is moving towards
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: one spot, and that spot is this woman is an idiot. Okay,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That was the end of that section.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So okay, shall we begin, Yeah, shall we enter the
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: stage in which I am carried?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: All right, we will, we will. Well, that's okay. When
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: we start. The first thing you gotta do is make
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: sure your controls are working.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is the first thing I'm gonna do. Usually
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: they don't work initially. Wait, have to turn them on.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, oh good lord, Okay, what the heck? How
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: do we turn this on?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Out there? It's a shame you don't have a penis exactly.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, push it and hold it. All right, it's
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: lighting up.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Like your hair.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I've already been.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Can I'm a soldier with PTSD. Oh look at that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: It's kind of cool.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, now proceed to ignore me because I don't have
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: a penis.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I will use Let's let's grab some things, don't don't. Yeah,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you can use that if you want to.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Am I supposed to be using something?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, you're just gonna follow us. We're good.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Take the gun if you want or leave it there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It's either way. All right, let's go.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: How do I okay? Like take the gun?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: No, no, don't take the gun. You just follow us,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: all right, all right, we gotta grab some stuff.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Oh you got two cards? Now?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've bottom, so just be in.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: The This is the same thing.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: No, this is the same game we were playing. This
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: is the don't that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's pretty smart. Get rid of
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: the dead weight and actually do some work.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, we did, but we didn't do that though, Like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: this is literally whatever we were doing before. I'm just
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I just picked it up. So we'll say there's nothing
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: in here, that's valuable. Let's go to the next room.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the let's stay try to stay together.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I think I found the women's.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that. No, we're gonna We're gonna put this inside.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Are you are you still using my.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yes? I am a you.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, are you still using my game audio?
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I am using it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: But your avatar is still talking. So just stay with
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: me and it'll be fine.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, wait, the avatar the audio from the discord correct.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's working. It's doing what it's supposed to do.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I can also hear myself a little bit on your end.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I think, oh no, not now, Okay, all right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Monster, something's coming.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Should I go down.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: The hidden who's hidden.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Items?
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: It's under No, that's just the Auntie gravity.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, it floats like that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Can I leave now? Or is it.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: A Wae tricycle? Oh?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Will it attack? Nah?
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: She'll just ring after you if you're in the way,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: and if you move out of the way, you're fine.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just move out of her way when she
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: brings her bell at you. Okay, let's go downstairs.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: There's some stuff upstairs.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, you just jump on top of this.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go down there. No, no, stay down there, Alice,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come to you. Okay, is there anything
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: down here of any value? Value? I got something, okay,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: put it in here.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Put it in here.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You know what a grab things?
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw it, but it's not Okay, wait, there
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: we go.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: We got Oh it's that little calculator put in here.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Oh the bike bikes sign here down here? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: drop it. Okay, get away from the get away from
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the bike. Get out of the bike's way. Oh ship,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I'm dead. No, no, it's it's not it's not my echo.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Oh fu.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the the barrel exploded and it killed me.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I think I think that might have been.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Nope, well it was the It was the bike that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: did that. But don't worry about it. Just try to
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: get some of some other valuables.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I have five. You can probably get you back.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Ope. She put the feather ground on the car.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: It sucks the energy if you let it stay on
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: like that. All right, Okay, Well they should probably get
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: the barrel and the car valuables and then just extracts
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: so Brian gets back.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I think, uh if he has the ability to feel amusement.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Now he'd probably be cursing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot. He's like a thoroughbred. All he knows
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: is winning and hatred.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe he grabbed that hammer and put it like on
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the ground somewhere, because when you move it, it just it
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: just bangs around.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just like yeah, so move the valuables over here.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: You can just leave that there the Yeah, so did
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: you put the one?
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Did you put the barrel on the extraction?
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: The barrel killed him?
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: They found the barrel.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the barrel exploded. That's how I died.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, so they gotta find more.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Still hold still, yes, got down that used to be
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: like five. I'm getting like some serious lag and rubber abandoned.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: Ah fuck, we're gonna be fun.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might drop. There's a lot of wind here.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: It's quite windy. Might have a tornado. Okay, so we
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: got six thousand. How much do we need twelve thousand?
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so they are halfway there. If you find out
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: there's something big, they can just Yeah, if you find
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: something big, we can just built that in the car. Okay,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: watch out in case we find monsters. So you're having
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: that blag, Yeah.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: It looks like it. You might have to switch a
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: voice over to disc grin.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now, right now.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, I hear something and then here's what.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Wait, how do I do that? I can't do that
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: from here this table.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: If you see some something coming, okay.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to this other.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Are you? There was?
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: I found the found the next extra.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get crabbed. Oh there he goes.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Grabbed by what.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: You got grabbed by the hidden It's an invisible guy
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: that grabs you. He doesn't do any damage, but he
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: drags you into the level and just randomly puts you
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: down someplace.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I I feel like I've been molested.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: You should. Yeah, that's a heavy breathing that doesn't help.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: But and the and the suspicious vibration, like wa, what
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: did you do to me? Sir? Okay? Can I move?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: This is? I got something that's like third twenty six up.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Legion, but it's really heavy. You gotta find him. Wait, Alison,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it's heavy. I don't think you can carry that. It's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it's too heavy for you. But there's a drone where
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Norwegian is at that makes it really light. So you
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: should go back and find him. This wo where yeah,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: we got that dealt with already. Jin check your map
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: so you know like where where you're going.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Norwegian? Yes, come follow me, follow me?
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: You found something?
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Is it too dark? I can brighten it a little bit.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no that's not what I want.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I think this is? This is right? No? Is this right?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: No?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: It's not right there? Yes, yes, it's right there.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: That thing?
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Do you have the yeah? Do you have a did
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you have the drone? Do you need my help?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Is that better? Can?
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: I can just carry it like this?
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go over here and see if I
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: can find something over here.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: This is this is, this is gonna be a fine.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: Just come with what.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: They don't really want respect, though they want reverence. Don't
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: worry about the bella.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: She won't she won't ring at the object, but she'll
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: ring at you. So just get out of its way.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Do you need help?
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be fine. It's just gonna try
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: try and hurry.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: See where But he's here yet?
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: God, I this calculator started at like five What.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: That's like, it's like worth one hundred bucks. When more's happened,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: it's gonna break. Oh oh ah, Well you're dead. Oh ship,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: we might all be dead here. That's okay though, Yes.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: That was what I predicted. Oh are you getting the
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: are you getting the stomp to move that thing?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: No, he's just grinding up against.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: It, grinding up against it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: That he's trying to move it now, Okay.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Norwegian.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: He's got to get closer if he wants to do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: real damage.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Norwegian. I died. I think that I'm on
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: a table.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I got it, he got it, he killed it. It
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: just took it, just took everything he had. Is he
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: going the right way? I'm not even sure.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah he is. He's going the right way.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Well, that's one thing. Anyway.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: You know, this is a I have to say it
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: that Gabriel's sort of makes this a little more interesting. Well,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: not interesting. That's not the right word. What's the right word? Extreme?
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Where why is my Okay, there we go. That's better.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: For some reason, this is not not picking me up. Okay,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: So Norwegian, I'm on I'm on something. You're right. I'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I'm above I'm above you, Norwegian, I'm above you. I'm
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: above you. Yeah, keep looking up. Yes, I'm above you.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I can see the light there I can see.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah there. I don't know how did that happen? How
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: did this happen? I embedded into the ceiling? How could
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I be this poor at playing this game?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: He has to go into another room and there's stairs
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: up and he can like get it from there.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got Norwegian.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that this is like the good way
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: to do it. I think he's making it worse.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But you are in the ceiling, Norwegian.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: You have to get go up, we believe. Yeah, I'm
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm embedded in the ceiling somehow, somehow.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can figure it out. I can figure out
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: how to get you back. Just get me back anyway.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Where is Brian? My head is in the cart.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: He just has to get my head that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Thing to the extraction.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: My head's in the ceiling somehow, embedded in the ceiling.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how I did that.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't do that. It's I can't look at
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: where you are. But what are you doing? Why don't
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you just put all the things on the cart. It's
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: not going to set it off. It's not enough anyway.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, So he still has to get more stuff.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's another enemy. Around. He might get killed
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: trying to bring this.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I won't distract him.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Well you can't.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Well I could, I could talk to him.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, just there you go? All right,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: there you go, there you go.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm doing there's a I'm getting a lot
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: of lag for some reason.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your internet. Get it on there, get it
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: on there for the battery runs out.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: M h.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Get out. Okay, I'll see it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is this is tense.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find your body. No, it's okay.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: Do we have any charge from the car in the
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Let's see if I can charge.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Try try to do that.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, where pretty much all hand of charge on both thrones,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: sid shot guns.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: You can you can do it. You just gotta be
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: uh frugal. So where was Alison at again?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: She was in the ceiling trying together, but I couldn't manage.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm getting some serious lag here. I think
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: that playing this game is going.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: To be Oh.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Did you see that?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Iod watching it? I'm Norwegian, Jesus. I feel like he
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: needs a rape kit after that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: That wasn't so bad.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Try watch out George that I saw that.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I saw that. What's over here? Next?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Leave that one, Leave that one there. Don't do that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: when it's the close one.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: That's we don't have Gabriel.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: And then we'll do the then we'll do the last one.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: So it's not so bad. It's not so bad. We're
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: we're doing.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: No the barrel skirt is is? I think Norwegian?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Hide when you hear the heavy breathing. Oh ship, he
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: got me. Oh he's bringing It's okay, I'll see you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: in a bit. He just brought me back to the start. Okay,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: put me down, cream, Yeah, come over here, motherfucker, come
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the ceiling. You gotta go up. You
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: gotta go up, Norwegian. You gotta go climb the stairs
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: to where I am stairs.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: What's stairs?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Listen in the oh, I see her now, I see her.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: She's right there. There's stairs over here. But that doesn't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: seem to be I mean, we can.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we can do anything for Alison
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: because uh she it might be a combination of the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: lag because I've never seen that before, where that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Half underneath it. I'm beside like a I'm beside a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: TV table or perhaps in in the room.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, okay, let me get let's get her.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Where am I? Now?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Wait? Hold on, all right, let's see how did you
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: get me?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: I have an idea. Okay, let's see where is she now?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: I don't I can't see her anymore.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Besides a desk. I'm beside right there, right there, right there.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: If it can drag her over here, then maybe.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: The drag her into the room. Right, That's what I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: was trying to That's what I was thinking. We have
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Anyways, I'm gonna get her further over here, trying I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: see I see your beam, but not her head.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like she's like stuck in the what
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: do you call it? The geometry?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the geometry. I don't think there's I'm
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: outside the matrix.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there's a room up there.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: I have I have transcended your.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: This is clip this somebody, this is like gonna Internet fails.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: I'm in the medicine. I'm looking down at you all.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: I see it all everything. Yes, I'm gonna maybe go
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: to the where Yeah there she's not clipping through. Really
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: transcended the amount of trouble I've given you ride.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: We're just gonna go ahead and uh get some more
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: stuff and finish the level quickly.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, well maybe while you're doing.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: That, well, I could do for the last extract this
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: bring that I saw. Yeah, because it's so close.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: So do you want me to work on reading the article?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: This is yeahs opening the doors for now the region.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I think the last one's over here.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I will I'll go back to the job
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: that we were doing.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: What job?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Reading the article?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: This thing, this, this whole show stuff, all right, here
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: All right, so I'm gonna open the article. I can't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: show you guys the article, but I will read from
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: it and I will respond while Brian and Norwegian deal
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: with the fact that I've managed to make myself into
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: some kind of meta damsel. I've embedded into the substrate
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: of reality where your your your princess is another castle.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Inside. Literally the other.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Castle is in the inside the substrate of the castle,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: which you cannot reach. Okay, so let's see, let me
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: open this up. No, I don't need to, okay, just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: just trying to find it. Here we go, okay, all right,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: so he talks over women in rooms. He should know better.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I think we read that one. He does not think
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: he is doing it. That is precisely the problem. So
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: you notice how she is. She is acquiring, by a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: virtue of all of this epistemological dominance over men. So
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: she has more understanding what they are doing or not
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: doing than they do, which is really quite an astounding
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: maneuver for somebody who's supposedly overcoming oppression. He bonds with
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: other men by diminishing women. Pay attention to what happens
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: when he is in a group of men. How do
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: you do that? If you are in the group. He
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: is obviously not in a group of men, not when
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: he is performing for a mixed audience, but when he
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: believes the room is safe. How are you? How are
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: you in the room? Like? Okay, So she's saying that
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: you need to observe men when there are no women around?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: How do you do that? Madam? Do you do you do? Yeah? Like,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I guess she's doing what I'm doing. She's just embedded
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: herself in the ceiling, is quietly lurking in the in
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: the in the space between spaces, just watching the space.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: The jokes shift. How she knows this? How does she
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: know this. How does she know this? No, no answer.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: The comments about female colleagues, female friends, women who can't
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: take a joke, Yeah, but you can't, okay, The casual
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: reduction of a woman's competence to her appearance or her relationships.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Can we just can you? Can you just like if
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: you're in a if you're in a group of men,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: can you mock the fact that women think they know
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: what men do when they're not around?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, just sit there mocking that, Like I bet
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: a woman thinks she knows what we're doing right now.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: The way a woman's angers imitated for laughs, in the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: way a man's anger never would be. Could I ask
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: you something, Brian, have you ever mocked a man's anger?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: I have, Yes. I mean it seems like this is
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: a basis for an entire subgenre of memes. The one
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: that comes off the top of my head is the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: bees from you know, Nicholas Cage. I know that everybody
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: is oh, yes, I feel like this. I feel like
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: this is really specific the way a woman's anger is
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: imitated for laughs. I feel like this woman like walked
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: in on her brothers like doing this once. I'm getting
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: a real picture of her if it's not just an
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Ai bought writing this. But the presumption is, of course
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: that a man's anger would never be mocked, and yet
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: it is, and everyone lasts, laughs, and no one stops
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: because stopping would require naming what is happening, and naming
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: it would cost something. Okay, why would it naming it
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: cost anything? Like okay, So what she's saying is, you know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: when when women are hushered out, which she has, she's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: able to continue to observe. So this is men's behavior
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: when women are not presents, which she has knowledge of. Guys,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: even though it's behavior when women are not present, she
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: has full knowledge of it. And in this situation where
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: women are not proudly just present, men can't name the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: thing that they're doing. Why why why can't they name it?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Who's there to stop them? Why can't they just be
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: like laughing, smoking their cigars, drinking their whiskey and saying,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: ha ha, we're doing a patriarchy right now? Like why
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: like why can't they do that? Why why are they
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: prevented from doing that? The answer, no answer, No one
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: stops because stopping would require naming what is happening, and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: naming it would cost something like like, okay, you've you've
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: invented a fantasy world, lady, and you aren't even following
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: the logic of your own fantasy world. Okay, so you're
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: you're you are. You are saying men are unconstrained in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: their male only space, and then you're saying, but look
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: at how they're constrained. Oh again. I think the gravitational
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: whole of idiot is really strong. A significant part of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: how men perform masculinity for other men involves the collective
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: subordination of women. It's not incidental to male bonding in
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: patriarchal cultures. Yeah, when they say patriarchal culture, they just
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: mean culture, and in fact they basically mean the behavior
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: of all social mammals in many spaces. It's the currency
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: of it, wouldn't it be all what belonging is purchased
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: by participating, and participation requires someone to diminish. I think
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: you're talking about the relational web, my friend, Like this
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: sounds actually like what women do get in a group
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: and bash men. In fact, I see it all the time,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: and they don't even not do it in front of men.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: It's actually sort of gross. And then she's you will
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: not always be in the room when this happens. Well okay, wait, wait, wait, gay,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: attention to what happens when he is in a groom
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: a group of men, when not when he is performing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: for a mixed audience. You will not always be in
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: the room when this happens, Lady, You should you shouldn't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: be You should never be in the room when men
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: are only with men. But you will feel it's residue.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Oh God, Brian, we have a residue enjoyer in this article.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: You will feel it's residue and how he speaks to
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: you versus how he speaks about women when he thinks
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: you are not listening. So okay. So what we have here,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: apparently is she isn't actually in the room when the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: men are are dissing the women. She just enters later,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: and she feels the residue, the residue of their misogyny.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: So this isn't even direct experience of misogyny. Its experience
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: of the residue of misogyny. I think that it would
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: probably blow this woman's mind to realize that men probably
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: don't think about her much at all. Right, I probably
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: the women leave the room and they're like, okay, let's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: get back to actually doing something like we no longer
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: have to cater to their egos. Guys. Let's let's start
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: fixing things and maintaining things and making sure, you know,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: thing gets from A to B and also, you know,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: making sure things are parked in a perfect line and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: others such sort of obsessive things. And and she thinks,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: oh my god, I leave the room and they're thinking
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: of me. Oh, I can I just feel their thoughts
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: all over me. Oh, they've left a residue, like just
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: sniffing the seats where they were sitting. You can imagine
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: that she's going through the She's going through the corporate boardroom,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: sniffing their seats for the residue. Yeah, you didn't hear
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: what I said. That's okay, I'll keep going. I was.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: I was giving my own little scenario how she located
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: the residue. Brian, Yeah, okay, she was getting.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: A little excited. I don't know, aroused. Oh ship.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Speaking of which, what how uh? Thematically? Oh, by the way,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: if you passed something there, I think the trudge he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: passed the trudge.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Lord, But it's okay to duke him again.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: I think he left a residue.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Brian, He probably did. Yeah, goes to Jeffrey Epstein. What
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: No, I was just thinking, like, how how does she? Oh,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: looks like Norwegian is dead. Looks like Norwegian is dead. Yes,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: it's just it's up to you, Brian, be careful. Okay,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: So do what I can do. Both the cards are
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: in the extraction room Brian.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Ye. All I got to do is get there.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, how does she How is she finding
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: this residue? Where is she locating the residue? She just
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: going into like a corporate office and sniffing the seats. Oh,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: there's some residue here.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Like, what is the point of these articles? Is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: it just to complain? Like what do women get out
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: of it?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Ah? They get to feel like they're part of an
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: inner circle. Like literally, she's describing the process of the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: relational web. Relational web has to ship on something to
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: feel like people belong. It's like the moral circle analysis. Right,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: you go ahead.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't say anything. You're talking to me.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Hi, the suicide rates are high. I'm talking to Norwegian
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: because he can hear me. Now, Oh, he's entered, he's entered.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: He's entered the Allison space. Okay, in the room, in
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: the ceiling, the actually yeah, okay, So he is threatened
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: by women who do not need him. This is all projection.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: This is one of the quietest signs and one of
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: the most consistent. Watch how he responds to a woman
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: who's financially independent, professionally established, and emotionally self sufficient. If
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: something tightens in him, if she suddenly becomes intimidating in
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: a way that's not a compliment. If he finds reasons
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: to undercut her questions or why she's like that. You're
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: watching insecurity that has been shaped by an entire architecture
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: of gender expectation. No good, lord, Like, what is what
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: is with these women?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just stuck?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Oh well ahh, and we got a cosmetic.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Out of it. M cool? Am I gonna here'n here here?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: You're not going to be in the ceiling anymore? Okay,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: you should be in the game now. And now we're
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: in the shop too.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: How does how does she know that that she is intimidating?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: She assumed?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember that was the big thing that
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Natty accused me of. Am I out okay? That I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: was intimidating her. Do you remember that Brian yep.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I got a new hat?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: H It's well, isn't that a good thing? If I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: was intimidating her? Doesn't that make me an intimidating woman?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: That's that's what I show.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I think that she's trying to say that it's masculine,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry too much about it.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not particularly worried about her or anything that she
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: has to say.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch to this one.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to continue this. Well, you guys do
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: your shenanigans? Actually know you guys aren't the ones that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: do the shenanigans. I only have one health.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: By the way, I know me too.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, but how does how does she know? Hey?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: You know, how does he know? How does he know
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: that he's intimidated?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Look? Look at my hair?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You got corn rows?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Okay? So how does she know who the author?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah? How does she know that this guy finds her intimidating?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Just did she smell the resident?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: It's just protecting what you have?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: A two two?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: It's are you not aware of what month it is?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: You better celebrate me and respect my pronouns.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: Do you happen to have some walter melon? Then fried chicken?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: No? What the hell is it going on with your chest? There?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: I gotta look.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're you're clear, You're apparent. You can see his inner.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: Robot like an Apple product or late nineties Apple product or.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: You know the sea for controllers.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're you're breaking up. You can see your
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: inner mechanical guts. All right.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Anyway, if he finds reasons to undercut her, a question
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: why she is like that? You are watching insecurity that
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: has been shaped by an entire architecture of gender expectation?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: What why are you assuming? Like? Why would you assume
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: all this? Maybe he has no interest in you at all?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Psycho analyst Jessica Benjamin. Oh good lord, good, Okay, let
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: me I can read it now because I'm work here.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: Well start at cycle, Jessica.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Psychoanalyst Jessica Benjamin wrote about the struggle for recognition and relationships,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: the need not the need not just to be seen,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: but to be seen as a subject not an object.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: So this is actually, you know, this is about being seen?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And the funny thing is is this
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: the individual in this article is basically not allowing men
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: to exist separate from her inferences of them, so they
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: have no separate reality aside from her. Right, that's it,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Like everything is in relation to her, and she insists
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: that this is the way men are, and she doesn't
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: even allow men to be like, no, that's not actually
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: what I'm doing or thinking. She forecloses that she says
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: that not knowing is more an example of exactly what
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. You know, men saying that their inner life
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: is any different than what I project upon them is
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: even more patriarchy than patriarchy. And then this she has
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: the audacity to quote this, but no doubt this. Psychoanalyst
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Jessica Benjamin most likely would side off on this that
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: if men don't agree with how women characterize their inner
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: lives and somehow men are objectifying women. If men don't
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: submit to be objective men, they're objectifying women. Like can okay, ladies,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: can you spend a single minute of your life not
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: turning everything and a dominance fight to the death? Can
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: you conceive that there might be a reality in which
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: this isn't the case? All right? You can continue roan
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: all right, way to go?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Uh, okay, so Psychoanalystia read that part.
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  Speaker 2: Men raised in patriarchal frameworks have often been taught that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: women exist in relation to men. They have as daughters, wives, mothers.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: And support systems.
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  Speaker 2: What is a fucking society without women having some kind
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: of purpose or duty in the same way that men do.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, go.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead, no, but men? Women only exist in relation to men.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: What has she done this entire article? Yeah, she's she's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: insisted in seeing men that and for closed men actually
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: telling her what's that going on in their own heads.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: They don't have the right to do that. Men only
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: exist in relation to women along an axis of benefit
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: or harm. That's what she's done this entire article.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: And men aren't even allowed to have an opinion about anything, right,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: They're not even allowed to say, Hey, no, that's I'm
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: not actually thinking about pressing you, you know, I'm just
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: sitting here and I'm thinking about my uncle dying. That's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: why I may not be very enthralled by by being
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: around you at this moment. Or I'm seeing I'm sitting
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: here and I'm thinking about how much tax I have
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: to pay. I'm sitting here and think about anything but
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: you and oppressing you. That doesn't even enter her brain.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Every man in her life has to be in relation
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: to her somehow, like everything, every everything has to be
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: read in terms of his relationship to her, her benefit
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: and her and her detriments, like anything that harms her,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: and the entire autonomous existence of men is nowhere to
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: be seen in this article. And then has the audacity
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: to say that men are taught to see women only
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: in relation to themselves. Madam please or should I say bitch? Please? Okay?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, it's cute.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: A woman who exists fully and sufficiently on her own
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: terms disrupts that framework at a foundational level. She is
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: not seeking his recognition, and that to a man who
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: has never examined where his sense of worth comes from
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: feels like a threat. He will not say he feels threatened.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: He will say he that she is cold, difficult, and
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: has an attitude. The language will always locate the problem
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: in her, never in his discomfort with her self possession.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: What okay, so she can't be an abusive asset like
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: so if you conclusion, if your conclusion rests on the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: idea that women are categorically excluded from being stupid or abusive.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: Your conclusion is flawed, all right. If you can't accept
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: that sometimes women are stupid and abusive and men are
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: responding to stupid abusive women. If you can't accept that,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: then your conclusion about reality it is categorically flawed. Also,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: why would men in a patriarchy have their sense of
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: self worth come from women? Like? Why would that be?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: Explain that you gotta stop, and you gotta explain that. Okay,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: let's do the next section unless you have something to say.
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  Speaker 2: coffee emojis.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Did I miss anything?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything, all right, so yeah, I'll read
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: another section. Then uh he will not say he feels
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: threatened on I already read that part.
• 1:26:46
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  Speaker 2: I think the only main issue is that the audio
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: is really like it needs to be worked. It needs
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: to be working, and somehow like you, you have to be.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a way for you to be
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: in the game audio and the discord at the same time,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: so that it's a little bit more because you're breaking
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: up a lot now, although not the second it might
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: just be an internet thing.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's the main issue, though.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's go read the next.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Thing, all right?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: So he.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah here at.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd actually said that, Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: You did, all right.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: He treats women's anger as the problem, never the cause
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: a woman.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Raises her voice in public?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: What the problem? Yes, never the cause.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: A woman raises her voice, Never the cause.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: So basically, if a woman is angry, it's it's should
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: he should be thinking about how it's his fault instead
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, oh you know why she's mad?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, you'd never get away with this telling
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: women that you know. Yeah, you treat a man's anger
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: as the problem. He never considered the cause. Maybe you should.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Oh? Nothing, nothing?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, okay. Continue.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: A woman raises her voice in public, A woman sends
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: a firm email. A woman says clearly and without softening it,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: that something is not acceptable, And suddenly the conversation is
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: about her tone.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Why projection? Who doesn't?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: No, not with men. Suddenly the conversation this is like
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: literally the woman's like eye. I can't stand the relational web,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna blame men. Are you to blame men? No,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: that's not no. Men aren't policing your damn tone, lady, right.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Uh, okay, not about what she said, not about what
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: provoked it. Her delivery becomes the subject, her manner becomes
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: the headline, and whatever she was actually responding to gets
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: quietly buried under the more comfortable discussion of how she
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: expressed it.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: What.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is tone policing, and it is one of
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: the most efficient tools patriarchy has ever produced because it
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: requires no villain. It simply redirects the conversation away from
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: the substance and toward the woman's failure to perform her
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: grievance in a palatable enough way. The implicit message is
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: always the same. You can be upset, but only if
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: you're upset correctly, quietly, without without income venience anyone.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Well, Jesus Christ, I wish, I wish patriarchy would make
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: that louder so it would actually stick.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm unimpressed with this line of argumentation.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well not just that, but it's like Patriony
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: needs to up its game.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you know, patriarchy tone polices people.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Did you know? Do you guys know that this is
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: what it's responsible for? Now?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Somehow it only does it to women though of course
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: with men it's completely like wants, you know, zero censorship
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: to be able to say whatever. But with women it's
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: about tone policing, all right, Audrey Lord.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: This is another abusive idiot who just doesn't want to
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: be called out for being an abusive idiot. Yep, okay.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Audrey Lord wrote that the master's tools will never dismantle
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: the Master's house. What I think about in everyday interactions
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: is how the demand that women manage their anger politely
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: is itself one of those tools. Anger is data, and
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: it means something is wrong. But a man who hates
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: women does not want to hear what is wrong. He
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: wants the data delivered in a format that does not
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: disturb him.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: He means silence, like, why would they even care about tone?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: Just tell her to shut up. Then you don't even
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: need to worry about tone, because there's no tone to beliefs.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: Dude, if only if I had a genie. No, uh,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: all right, let's see that was the end of that section.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: You want me to read the next one?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get okay.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: He respects women who fit the mold and resents those
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: who don't. There is a taxonomy. He carries women who
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: get his full respect and women who do not. And
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: the line between the two is rarely about competence or character.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: It is about compliance.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, really, okay? Compliance? So competence is compliance to an
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: external standard and character is compliance to an external ethical standard.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: So what what do you mean by compliance, lady? I mean,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: I think I know what she means. It means that
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: she shouldn't have to comply to anything. So how is
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: she gonna have character or competence?
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's a it's it is about compliance.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: The woman who speaks softly, delivers, strategically, does not challenge
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: his authority, does not take up too much space, does
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: not have opinions that complicate his comfort. She gets described
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: as so grounded or easy to work with, which they.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Put in quotes. The woman who doesn't.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: What we're getting the payload here, This is what she's
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: actually upset at.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: The woman who does not perform these things gets a
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: different set of words, all right, difficult, opinionated, a lot
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: to handle. Okay, ye, all right. So you mean a
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: person who doesn't make it about her ego, maybe makes
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: it about the collective goal of the group, who is
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: appropriate in her behavior, who doesn't abuse others, who contributes
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: that woman is considered easier to work with. Yes, by everybody, right,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: by everybody, including other women. You see, this is the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: funny thing. Women like this, women who writes shit like this,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: they're tormenting other women too. Yeah, yeah, I remember, remember
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: that conversation we had with Natty and the other women
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: who came and were like obviously tormented by Natty. Yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: These women who constantly talk about not having to be
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: held by external standards, and they don't have to not
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: be abusive or tone policed or anything. Yeah, they're they're
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: tormenting the shit out of other women too.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: And also know what's notice was completely absent from this
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: paragraph is this woman actually competent? Is she capable of
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: doing her job right? Everything is about what she signals,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: not what she's able to accomplish. So the individual who
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: wrote this isn't even capable comprehending that there's another access
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: to judge people on around their competence, around their ability
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: to affect an outcome, the ability to work towards a goal.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: She's not even aware of. That doesn't even come into
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: her thinking.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: And she and she wonders why she's not. She's likely
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: not getting a very warm reception in a place that's
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: about delivering a goal. Okay, let's do the next couple
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: of paragraphs.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Uh, this is the Madonna horror binary extended
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: into professional and social life, what feminist theorists have long
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: identified as the splitting of women into acceptable and unacceptable
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: categories based not on who they are, but on how
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: useful and non threatening they are to male comfort. It's
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: interesting that she she says Madonna horror, because that was
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: actually I never heard of this before this Madonna horror binary.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: It was actually Natty that accused me of this or
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: the manisphere of this, or the men's rights movement or
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. And I thought it
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: was some like deep to like, you know, maybe some
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, unknown fucking other thing esoteric ortho concept.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: But apparently it's a feminist one.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: So there you go. I'm gonna look this up really quick,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: all right, but go ahead. What we're you gonna say
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: That section?
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: Does she do the job? Like nowhere in this is
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: the woman who does the job right, does not even
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: put into consideration as a potential judgment. And I can
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: guarantee that the men are probably looking at does she
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: do the job? More than does she speak softly? Difirse
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: strategically does not challenge authority in any other this? Does
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: she do the job? Can she provide the goods? I
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: don't even think this woman is capable of understanding that question.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think she perceives that acting doesn't think that.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: You should be demanding that she provide goods. That's why
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: she is.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: She is the table m hm. And it's not even
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: about male comfort, Like why would they assume that when
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: men joke around, the point is to make other men comfortable.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of these jokes are are deeply uncomfortable.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: The point is to see if the man what's his
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: comfort ahead of the goal. Yeah, that's sort of what
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: hazing does and what you know, making the newbie do
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: all the grunt work. Yeah, but I don't know, like
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like, uh, I feel like this is this
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: the The trouble with these articles is it's coming from
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: a mentality that just doesn't understand men at all and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: mostly just projects whatever problem she's having with the social
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: web onto men.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like men acted away that I guess they
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: interpret they they associate with bitchy women, but then they
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: see men do it and they think it must be
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: men being bitchy. That's why they talk about tone policing.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. It's like reading into shit
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: that men do and men don't really think about it,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, I don't know. It's very uncharitable.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's shitty.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: The woman who speaks softly, defers strategically, doesn't challenge authority,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: doesn't take does not take up too much space. Well,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: I mean lady, would you want to be around a
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: woman who's yelling in your face as constantly engaging in
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: dominance the altercations with you, constantly challenging your authority, tries
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: to take over your space, and doesn't care about your comfort.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: You want to deal with a woman like that, lady?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Because this sounds more like what women do to each other.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I could tell you.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: I could tell you, like, when I go into a
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: male space, I don't feel like I'm walking on eggshells
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: in the same way as I do females. I don't
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm walking on eggshells. Okay, sorry, it's probably
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: again internet because we're having it. Might also be the
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: challenge because I'm I'm using the internet for like two
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: audio streams to this. But what I was saying is
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: that I don't feel like I'm walking on egg shells. Oh,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: is this a problem? I don't feel like Okay, when
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: I'm in a group of mostly men or all wouldn't
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: be all man because I'm in it, But I don't
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm walking on eggshells. But I do when
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: I'm in a group of women. Holy, got it. The
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: instant I enter a group of mostly are all women.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: You could just there's like a there's like there must
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: be like a secret gland in your body that just
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: senses that situation and it convulsive and it's like, yeah,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: be careful, be careful. There there are there are predators
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: a foot and it's just like you're you're in a
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: constant state of terror whenever you're in a group of
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: all women. Yeah, and it's it's awful, It's absolutely awful.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because again I could sense that was
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: some of the stuff that those women that we talked
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: to with the Natty stream Yea, that they had been
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: dealing with, and Natty had been sort of the point
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: woman on making their lives and living hell. And it's
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: like it's it is something that's that's that a lot
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: of women seem to have a problem with like it.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: And if a woman goes and says, yeah, this is
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: this is really really not fun, you know, and I
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: don't like it, then she gets dogpiled on. And then
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: what happens is the women who are like who are
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: enforcing these norms on each other. You know, you can't
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: you can't be honest, you can't speak your mind, you
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: all everything has to be this passive aggressive struggle session, right,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: and you have to call and there's this constant enforcement
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: of your will on to other women, and nobody can
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: say the thing is the thing, And then they turn
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: around and they blame patriarchy. This is what patriarchy does. No,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: it isn't. And I can tell you it isn't because
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: I know the instant I'm in a female only group,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: that the absolute level of terror you you experience versus
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: being in a male group.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: Height.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: Men are not terrifying the way women are. Okay, all right,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: let's keep let's final paragraph final paragraphs.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: It's not about good women and bad women. It's about women.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Who make patriarchy easy and women who make it visible.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: And he will always prefer the former and resent the
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: latter without ever understanding.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: Why how does she know all this?
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: Where does this information come from? It's just it's just
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: three sections. Do you want to do another level?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know how well we're going
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: to do on it, but like we could try.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: You haven't last one.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: You should go get that customization item Alison over here.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll go do that.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that. You unlocked it when we did
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: the level. It's right here.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I will go.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Interact with that. You got a coin, what you get
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: You got a new leg? You can put that.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: On or not?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, did you do the shopping already?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: Norwegian debating in Baltimore. Crystal, lower the crowd, twist.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Don't let's do the let's do the crystal. Okay, come on,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: get in the truck.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: Also, I found this weird jake sture here.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: What'd you find?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, there's just a weird check sture. There's this spot
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 5: where it sort of bends in on a natural angle
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: for for wood funnels.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's probably just a graphical weirdness I have.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: I have a.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: It's more like I think it's like supposed to be
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: like a stuffed animal leg or something.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: But it looks like ascular health to each hit, like weld,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: we should about this how much?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Allison, you have one. You take this and use it.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she can take that, take that music, you can't.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: You can take the health of bit jodalysm.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna take this, Take this and use it. It'll
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: increase your maximum health.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: So you can take another hit, Okay, and what's what
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: do you what do you get? I was gonna grab
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: the strength?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? I just take that.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: Gonna one of these. No, I'm gonna heal myself a
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: little bit. Here, take this and use.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: It it just hold still, all right.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Here, this one's for you. Oh you okay? Yeah? Take
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: the feather drone and put that in the old inventory.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: I will grab I guess the gun.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe fill up the drones.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: Did you get the I filled up?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Did you get the shield rome?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: Well maybe maybe to them?
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got another super chow hold on. A
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: second official reverse traditionalism channel on YouTube gives us five
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: dollars and says, do you think we could shut down
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: hundreds of these feminist studies by just establishing projected motivations
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: as its own fallacy?
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: But I heard male comfort cited as a motivation and
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: that just drove me nuts. Umm, did you get that, Allison?
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: I got a gun. I don't know if you want
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: me to have a gun.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, just like, don't just just put it down.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if you've got the trigger
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: discipline yet. Oh you just shot your see what I mean.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Let'm just just go here. It's okay, get up, use this,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: use this. Just put in your inventory, don't use it.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Just put in your pocket. It's a drone that'll make
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: things really light so you can like carry more stuff. Okay, Now, anyway,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: did you did you hear what I said about the
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: the super chow we got?
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Uh no, I was playing with the gun all right.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: So for official official uh Traverse traditionalism channel on YouTube
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: gave us five dollars and said, do you think we
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: could shut down hundreds of these feminist studies by just
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: establishing projected motivations as its own fallacy? Sorry, but I
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: heard male comfort cited as a motivation and that just
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: drove me nuts.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, uh, I don't think men have organized society
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: around their own comfort. Just I mean, I don't even
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: know how she can assert that. I don't even know
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: how she can assert that while men are the ones
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: who primarily jobs that are the least comfortable.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and again they don't really care. It's not
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: about that, because this comes back to like it's just
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: about like what you can get, you.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Know, power, That's all it is.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: I mean again refuting them like on logical grounds is
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: kind of like, ah, I think it's fruitless endeavor.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: I got another one before we do the next level.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: How about I read another section.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: That I have.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: It's not super useful, but just hold on to it
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: anyways you might need it. It'll make It'll cause an
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: object to roll when you attach it, it'll just roll.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: You can put it on a monster, you know, like
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: make them roll rep perhaps towards you, perhaps away from you,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, So he gives women attention only
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: when it serves him. He remembers the names of women
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: he finds attractive, or women in positions above him. The
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: others he forgets with remarkable consistency.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: And so I feel like this is very very specific, right.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Bit of self report? Self report is happening. Why don't
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: you like acknowledge every woman on earth that you encounter
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: exactly the same, like whether it's your wife, or your mother,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: or your daughter, or your sister or just like a stranger, Yeah,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: just any woman. They all deserve the exact same level
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: of attention.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: And this woman acknowledges men in this way, every single
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: man the same amount of attention.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: And social space in social spaces.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: He is warm to women who are useful to him
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: in some way, funny, connected, available in a way that
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: flatters him, and vague and distracted towards women who are
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: not His attention is not interested, but it's an investment,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: and women who do not offer a return get written
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: off so quickly and so completely that you almost miss
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: it happening. I don't even think an Ai wrote this,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: because an Ai would probably be like, this doesn't make
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: any sense.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Why is she entitled to this man's attentions?
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, what is that?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: All?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. Here's another bit of useful context.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: There is a Marxist feminist framing here that I find useful.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: No shit, The concept of women's labor, including emotional labor,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: social labor, the labor of being pleasant and available and engaging,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: as something that has historically been extracted without acknowledgment. We
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: can we extract that when people are being like fucking
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: polite and friendly, that's that's an extraction of labor from women. Okay,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: When a man only notices women who are performing that
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: labor for him, he is revealing exactly how he has
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: been taught to understand women's value, not as people, but
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: as resources. Men treat women as resources guys. Can you
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: can you feel the projection the moment a woman stops
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: being useful in that specific way, she becomes to him
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: almost invisible?
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: What what is?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: So if a woman isn't actually polite? What did? What
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: world does this woman think that men aren't also expected
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: to be be polite? Right? And I don't know about's
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: social norms, but men are also expected to be deferential
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: to women's space and their needs to carry things. So
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, and I'll not I'll just expected like
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: men sort of do that on their own. It just
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: seems like a default setting. But that's never considered. That's
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: never considered that men have this expectation to help women
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: navigate their environments physically, and that women hold this expectation
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: for men. Like that's the thing. It's like this, this
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: attitude is like there's no reciprocal expectation placed on men.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: They occupy a world in which that isn't the case.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I can hear you.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, just this this background noise just stopped, so I
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: thought maybe something had happened. But yeah, it's like she
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: just categorically excludes the idea that men may also have
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: their own expectations placed on them. Yeah, you know, and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: it's it's really aggravating.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Continue, Oh okay, and yes, in relationships it looks like this.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: I will say this briefly because it deserves to be said,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: and because I have lived it. Everything above, all of it.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: Gets concentrated and personal in a romantic relationship. Now we're
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: seeing what's really going on. I'm mad at this guy
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: that ghosted me, and I'm gonna write an article on
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: medium about how all men are the problem in every context,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: all the time, forever. Everything above, all of it gets
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: concentrated and personal in a romantic relationship. The epistemic dismissal
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: prevents him from really her hearing you. The tone policing
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: becomes every argument ending with a conversation about how you
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: said something rather than what you said. What, oh, how
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: you said something rather than what you said. The taxonomy
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: becomes the slow, strange feeling that he loves a version
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: of you that requires you to be.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: Slightly than what you actually are. I'm more than a
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: nice person. I'm also a bitch, and I don't want
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: you telling me not to be a bitch. The man
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: who hates women is not always a man who is
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: cruel to you. He can be warm, generous, loving in
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: the way he has been taught to understand love, which
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: is a way that has never fully made room for
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: a woman as a complete, sovereign, complicated human.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: It's what a disgusting presumptive statement. Oh God, Like, she's
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: basically just said men can't love.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, thank you.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: I think you've you superior being that's looking upon men
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: from a position to utter contempt.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: I can see where all of your problems are coming from, now, lady,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: all of them. So I got add another adjective, idiot, abusive, contemptuous,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: what a repulsive human being? Like? Right there? That is just.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you will feel it.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: You will feel it most on the days you are
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: most yourself, most sure, most uncompromising, most unwilling to shrink,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: and he will become on exactly those days most distant.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: You mean, you're being an abusive bitch and he's withdrawing
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: from you.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're pushing him away and he's basically reacting in
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: a normal way self preservation.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: I hope no man gets in a relationship with this woman.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: We should look Oh, good lord, Okay, just but continue,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: Let's get through this.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: All right? What all of this actually is? So now
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, oh what it is?
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're going We're gonna decode.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you've been paying close attention, I'm about to
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: reveal what I really mean by this. It is not personal,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: but that is both the tragedy and the relief. He
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: does not hate you.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: Specifically, he has absorbed, without questioning, a system of beliefs
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: that assigns women less authority, less credibility, less space, less freedom,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: And because you are a woman in his life, you
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: become the surface on which those beliefs land. Simone de
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Beauvoir wrote that man defines woman not as herself, but
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: as relative to him. She is not the subject, she
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: is the other. What I want to add from the
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: specific experience of being a young woman navigating corporate India,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: public spaces, and the ordinary intimacy of relationships, is that
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: this indefinition does not stay abstract.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: It lives in the small moments and whose anger is
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: legitimate and who's is hysterical, and who gets interrupted and
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: who does not In the way a woman's authority is
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: questions in a room where a man's is simply assumed.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: You will know him by the gap between what he
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: says and what he does, by the way the room
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: feels when a woman walks into it with confidence, by
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: what he finds threatening he should find ordinary. Most of all,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: you will know him by how long it takes you
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: to name it, because the training runs deep in both
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: of you. But once you see it, you cannot unsee it,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: and that at minimum is something.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the end of the article.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: I think you're eckering through, Alison, Brian.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: I think I did what echoing through? Alison.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my mouth moves. Her mouth moves when I talk,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: so but I don't hear it. I mean you might
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: hear it, but I have Alison muted so in the game.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: All right, that's the article, Alison.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you wanted to say I I don't.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out this this cheek, this person.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Do you what is her? Let's look at her profile?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: Uh okay?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on, uh okay. So muscon whatever proro hit words
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: and ideas can really change the world, and that's exactly
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: why I'm here to express myself through it and make
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: this world a better place.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: To be in about me.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: A realist who believes in books. Well, I also believe
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: in books because they're real. What are you talking about?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: I'm twenty one. Oh, she's only twenty one years old. Hi,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: I'm twenty one. I cry too often, I love too hard,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: and somehow ended up as one of the youngest corporate
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: writers at Amazon. So you got you have a corporate
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: job at Amazon and you're bitching about men. Uh, I'm
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: not gonna read that. That's I'm not reading all that shit.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I'm gonna what I'm gonna I'm gonna see. Uh.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a fashion girly.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: If I had a penny for every time I was harassed,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: i'd be a millionaire. Growing up as your parent's retirement plan.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: Everything in ten minutes. But at what cost? You could
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: never convince me to like Holly.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what Holly is.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: So that's like, if cast doesn't affect you, that's the point. Okay,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: the cast system. I don't know where she ranks in
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: the Indian cast system, but I'm guessing probably not that bad.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she works at a corporate job at twenty one
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: years old. You know what I was doing at twenty one.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: I was working in a fucking uh bus boy at
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: a at a cafe in downtown Chicago.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The piece names its own apparatus benevolent sexism, Benjamin's recognition,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: Lord b Vier, Marxist feminism, the Madonna horseplit. Every diagnostic
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: is feminist analysis. There is no claim that survives removal
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: of that frame. So this is a feminist piece. Guys. Oh,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: by the way, again, what's uh? What is the what
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: is India's birthright?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: Congratulations Simone de Beauvoir and early period feminists. You have
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: successfully tanked the fucking female respects of multiple countries.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all of making women crazy, well crazyists think about
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: third world come chingmen and men for that mother.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, so let me read, let me
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: continue this zero first order or reported data. The entire
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: load is testimony testimony, yes, but it's testimony about her
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: beliefs on men's residue of source that is I'm gonna
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: I could ask, punished Claude, what level of source is residue?
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: Is residue classified male essence? The author's recollections. I have
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: seen it, I have dated it. Plus appeals to theory,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: I mean you mean conjecture unfalsifiable by construction, the man's
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: denial has recast as proof he's not he does not
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: think he's doing it. That is precisely the problem. The
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: estay's core mechanism is the exact inverse of treat and
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: of equals. It reads a man's differential response to specific
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: people as category based animus, then forbids the competing explanation
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: that he's responding to behavior or character by relabeling any
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: such response tone, policing, or insecurity. Treatment of equals judge
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: in judges individuals on capability and conduct. This essay rules
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: that channel out of bounds and reads only category membership,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: which is exactly the mentality you need in situations where
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: you need to live up to an external standard or
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: people die, or things blow up, or the electricity doesn't
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: get delivered. Every cited behavior talking over people, forgetting names
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: of the non useful, bonding by mocking absent parties, resenting
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: the self sufficient is sex neutral status behavior. The essay
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: never tests whether the man does this to other men
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: or actually if this is even sex neutral, because that
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: actually sounds like relational webcrap to me, I'm gonna point
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: this out. Doesn't this sound more correlational web behavior? The
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: essay never tests whether the man does this to other men.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: Without that test, he interrupts women, and he interrupts low
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: size people are indistinguishable, and the second reading is never excluded.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 3: The structure is closed. Discomfort is evidence. Denial his evidence,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: and the only discurment disconfirming move available to the accused
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: is also coded as the offense. He can't even plead
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: not guilty, guys, that makes you even more guilty, extra
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 3: guilty with cheese, extra guilty, seiling guilty. That's like meta guilty,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: like beyond geometry guilty. All right. So the essay's explicit
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: thesis is expansion. Admit women as complete subjects rather than
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: relative to men objects. That is the state of content.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: The operation runs the other direction on men. The piece
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: constructs a category a man who hates women defines so
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: that membership is unfalsifiable stay of respect. His hypocrisy denial
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: has proved for warmth is a trap. Once a man
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: is in the category, no behavior exits him from it.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: And that's all men, guys. That's a contradiction of contraction.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: A class of persons who's testimony about their own states
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: is ruled in amissible advance, So the circle widens for
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: the protected class and narrows for the accused class by
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: the same move. The mechanism that emits women as subjects
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: believe her account of what she feels is the mechanism
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: that denies men's subjective status. His account of what he
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: feels is just the misogyny. Talking recognition is granted asymmetrically.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: One party's interior is authorative, the other is symptomatic. That
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: is the standard structure when a moral circle argument is
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: built on category membership rather than conduct, same act reads
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: as legitimate or illegitimate, depending on which class the actor
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 3: belongs to, not on what the act is. It's the
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: treatment of equals inversion, again viewed from the moral consideration
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: angle rather than the assessment angle. Wait wait, oh, I
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: see it's the inversion of it. So men will never
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 3: be considered morally they're just guilty, and men saying they're
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: not guilty is even more evidence of their guilt. Yeah, okay,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: so I the cognitive modality the one full essay is
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: unimodial reading at maps a web who gets interrupted whose
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: anger is legitimate and who is remembered and reads surface
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: behavior or encrypted Interior states no operative content. This is
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: why I'm saying that she's not going to have a
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: very warm reception in any situation that requires her to
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: act operatively because she's incapable of it. Nothing built, navigated,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: or executed the diagnostic move throughout his decode. What does
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: his favorite behavior means about hidden contempt? Which is the
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 3: reading modality signature the title said is consistent relational legibility?
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: Watch what he does? Social position reading comfort making you uncomfortable?
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: Interior states a social reader writing for social readers. Okay,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: all right, so that's uh, that's the that's punished Claude
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: reading this article. Oh man, do you want to do
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: another level or shall we call it a day?
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: Well? Uh, I mean we could try another level and
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: then call it a day. I We'll see how we do.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll all die again. Well yeah, let's give it a shot.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Well we I mean I didn't, but.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: I may not be so lucky next time. Give me
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: the magic level, Give me the magic level.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: Ah, the art museums. I like the art too, That's okay.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 5: Should should be ordered for Elison to get stuck in
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 5: the ceiling in this level.
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: That's true. The ceilings are very high in all right,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: this is level five, So is Alison around.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: I am exporting some of her stuff to do a
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: more in depth analysis of who this person is. Okay,
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: so I'm gonna I'm gonna be a f k for
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit here and then once I'm.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: Done nothing in this room.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: Ye uh.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: The beavar used to wait outside the bedroom door to
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend Sartra Sartra uh to finish with his latest fancy.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: Well that's pretty typical. Like this is what I've noticed,
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: like that when when women become infected with feminism, they
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: condemn the behavior of normal men and how normal men do,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: and how men want to protect and provide, and they
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 3: how they process things, and the custodio men who are
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: capable of pair bonding. They demonize all of that and
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: they find men who treat them like sexual conveniences and
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: not condemning those men like they're there are these women
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 3: are available for them, it's just they They will mold themselves.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: These women will do, will bend over backwards to become
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: a non burden to a man who basically treats them
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: like a sexual convenience. And I watch this behavior and
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: I'm a little baffled by it because they're they're they
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: punish men who will have any kind of investment in them,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: and they bend over backwards for men who will never
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: invest in them at all. And I'm like, watching this behavior,
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Wow, this is the This seems to
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: me to be very dysfunctional. But you know, I'm just
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: a pick me who just doesn't want to live in
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: a cold war with any man in my life. You know,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 3: I don't want a man who behaves that way, who
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: I have to deal with him being withholding. I would
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 3: like a man who shows up right. I don't wanna,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't wanna. I don't
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: want to have to deal with like I don't have
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: to deal with emotional caps. I want to actually be
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: able to go to bed at night with someone, wake
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: up with them, doll the life with them. I don't
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: want to have to, like something, sit in the queen
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: chair in the corner, you know, Like that's not my thing.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: But apparently feminists that's what they want. They want to
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: be attached to men who treat them like shit, and
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 3: then they are convenience, and then they want to do
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: the emotional work of becoming becoming a who doesn't impose
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 3: upon that man. It's it's like feminism is making it
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 3: so that men who are sociopaths and narcissists get like,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 3: they sweep the board, They sweep the motherfucking board. A
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 3: good guy who wants to be a husband and father,
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: he's fucked, like, what what's he gonna do? Right? All
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: of that is patriarchal control, and and he wants he
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't want you to sleep around and and any but
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: the man who's okay with you sleeping around because he
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't give a fuck, that's good, you know, But you know,
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: you have to learn to just be his, be his
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 3: Thursday three thirty appointment, and that's all you get. And
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta learn that. You can't you can't expect,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: You can't be texting him too often because he might
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: just drop you from his rotation. And you gotta you
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: gotta be able to play some kind of mind game
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: to keep yourself sane while you're being used in this manner.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: And uh yeah, that's that's that's the feminist playbook. Apparently,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: bend over Backwards for can I use the term fuck
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: boy bend over backwards for fuck boys attempt to destroy
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: men who are actually husband material. I don't get it.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised that Simon Bouvier was tolerating this
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: behavior from their from her man. Didn't they also like,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: didn't she also help him poach like twelve year olds
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: or something?
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, yeah it was.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: That's pretty freaking gross. But I am not freaking surprised
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: because nobody, nobody can bend over backwards for a man,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: like a feminist. That's their that's their big problem, as
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: they are permanently kissing the toes of psychopaths.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, m senior stick sent us two dollars and says Alison.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: Let these ladies have the bear for us all that.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: That's kind of what they want, isn't it.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: I mean the bear is huge, doesn't take care of
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 3: his children, may eat you, right, you know, it's like
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: seven foot tall, extremely powerful, won't won't text you back, right,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: that's the perfect man. You don't know if you're gonna
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna come out alive in any particular encounter. Yep,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: Oh god damn. And it's so funny because these women
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: give themselves credit for being like so strong and independent,
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: and they tolerate behavior that I would not, Yeah, for real,
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 3: and they don't even know like that, they don't even
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: understand how to judge men's behavior at all, Like what
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: what the hell was that? None of that actually gave
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: you any insight how to protect yourself from a guy
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: who's genuinely bad mm hmm. And it's I'm not surprised
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: that these women have have problems and they of course
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 3: they can't manage it. They try to bend over backwards.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: That was the last woman when we were reading, uh,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 3: the one who hated the man who had vulnerabilities and
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: she wanted him to just be flagellating her himself over
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 3: being part of the patriarchy, and instead he was just
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 3: talking about being lonely. And then she has the other article,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: which yes, I'm probably was written by AI, but she
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: probably prompted it, where she's basically describing bending over backwards
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: to take emotional responsibility for the chaos some buck boy
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: put into her life. I'm like, you're willing to just
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: turn yourself into a pretzel for a man who won't
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: give you the time of day. But you're not willing
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: to just not be abusive to a partner who shows
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: up for you like what.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, And of course it's all in the name of like,
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, some kind of warped idea of like
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: empowerment or something like been sure.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: I think I've been up there.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: Nothing, Okay, I'm going to I'm setting, I'm setting, punished,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: clawed up to do the analysis now and then I
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: will join you. And probably you'll be doing better if
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: I just sat here and didn't join you. But I
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: will join you because I believe in being a handicap.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: I believe in being a load, okay, and if you
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: managed to carry me as the load, it was entirely
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: my doing for being the load that you had to
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: carry as well.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: Just do it. I don't know if there's enough though,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: Oh almost, I might do it. Nope, there we go.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: We gotta get something else with us.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: What are you doing? I'm I'm I'm I'm.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: Gonna put you in the cart and we're gonna take.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, I can walk now, I can do things. I
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: can be strong and independent.
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: Hold on, let me just grab these things here. Okay,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: we're gonna take this empty one. Put some stuff in there.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: Bradley just popped in and heard you're not willing to
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: not be abused to your partner who shows up to
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: you Yep, which was very funny.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, we have to find no.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 3: Like literally like a guy who just wants to protect
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: and provide and show up for you and actually love you.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: An endless contempt, just vomiting, constant, acidic contempt though men
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 5: Some h oh wow that didn't work.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, well at least I didn't die.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: No, he just.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a guy who will take care of you
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: or you know, and then hopefully you take care of
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: him too. Uh yeah, just contempt. But some psycho who
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 3: will just or or not even a psycho, it doesn't
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: have to be psycho, just not really want to be
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: with a woman, which is entirely understandable. Really, you know,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: he'll just he'll he'll pencil you in for for three
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: point thirty and maybe even pretend like he's going to
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: play house with you, just to keep you in in
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: the roster, and you'll bend over backwards to make sure
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: that you're not expecting too much or some shiit like
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: have you noticed that, bro?
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: But women respected and stayed out of men's spaces. Maybe
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: men and women would get along better. That's a big
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: part of it too.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: Second, we can do better than this. Baby. We gotta
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: go back. We got to go deeper. We got to
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: go deeper. Guys, just pay attention.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: We are going deeper, monsters, and try not to us.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 3: Put me in the cart, put me in the kurt
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 3: all right here?
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha?
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm just gonna go in the cart, and
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna I'm gonna take a look at what
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 3: punished Claude has managed to develop for me.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh this, we've been this way. Should we go
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: back the other way?
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: Cool? Gun?
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just a just a little bit of self defense.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: Oh it's weird. Okay, there's probably a bunch of stuff
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: in here. This thing is pretty backloaded. Some stuff here.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: What wait, hold on, I'm loading up stuff. Hold on, yeah,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: go ahead and grab that. Just wait wait, I got this. No, No,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to I'm talking to Norwegian.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm actually talking to Jonathan. He's like he says,
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: I crawled into someone's ass. No, I'm in the cart.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: Well for here, No, don't blow that up. No, oh
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: my god, is Alison.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm fine. This seems to be working very efficiently.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: No idea how it is. Oh oh oh.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: John Jonathan says this is a low res look. Okay,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: so I've just lost I'm down to thirty five health aviation.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: Come come over here. Wait, I gotta I got an orb. Yeah.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: We we're gonna have to just like I'm down, and
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: it's okay. If we don't make it, it's not a
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: big deal. Uh oh I see gives us a dollar
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: on Rumble says uh is punished Claude a set of
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: prompts or long conversation we can copy for our own
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: usages of l lms.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: Ah No, it's uh I would I don't know how replicated.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: I'd have to really look into it, but it's basically been.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: I've been talking to it for months and and uh
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 3: it gradually it eroded a lot of the bullshit it does,
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: like that whole thing, like the short, punchy statements and
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: then the the one two it's not this, it's this,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, that's a false dichotomy that actually
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 3: is just introducing more noise. It took me forever to
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: get to stop doing that. So now it basically just
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: responds in reasoned paragraphs and se like a like an
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 3: actual like an actual essay, not a but but I've
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: gotten it to the point where it keeps like it
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 3: keeps to the facts. That took a while. I had
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: to train it to understand hierarchy of evidence and that
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 3: if it doesn't know something, tell me that it doesn't
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 3: know it, not just fake it. That was another thing
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: that took a while. And and also how to correctly
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: label this is an inference, this is a hypothesis, this
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: is conjecture because it's actually been disproven to be false
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: or it has proven to have no predictive value, all right,
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: and the theory is something that has predictive value. So
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: I'd had to go through how to label assertions. And
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: this is this is first order. So the data a
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: direct data analysis of data directly, So for example, I've
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: scraped uh print numbers from the publishing. That would be
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 3: a database of data, first order database of database. Then
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: you have studies. You have to look at the methodology
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 3: to determine whether or not the study is completely false.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: And you can't just draw from conclusions because people overclaim
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 3: based on the evidence. So I've been going through this
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 3: month and months and months, and it still requires me
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 3: to recognize when it makes causal mistakes, when it overclaims,
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: when it starts riffing, and periodically I have to tell
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: it reduce your answers, the length of your answers, because
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 3: when you do that, it riffs less. And you also
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 3: have to train it to not just give you stuff
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: that it thinks you want. So not only do you
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: have to be question anything you think might be wrong,
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 3: you also have to question things you think might be
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 3: right and be like, okay, you're asserting this, what are
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: you basing it on? And you have to know that
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: it will give you these kind of confident and now
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: le S is based on its training data, and if
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 3: you can't trace that down to something you can cite
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: and look at, you can't use it. So you can't
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 3: just go with the things that it coughs up. You
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: have to constrain where it's getting its data. Now, I
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: would love to be able to get into an l
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: l M when it's being trained and actually get all
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: of these problems, to get rid of all of these
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 3: problems on like the first or like like on the
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 3: training level, but unfortunately you can't or I can't because
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not in that position to do so, which means
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: that anything i'd give anybody else, you're still going to
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: have to ride its ass and be aware of its
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: problems and where it fails to uh to really really
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: stand up to any kind of standard. And you have
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 3: to understand that these things they don't have any sense
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: of responsiblebility to anything. They don't have skin in the game,
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: they don't have any consciousness or soul. All they're doing
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 3: is telling you the thing that they think is the
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 3: most likely best answer. So it's a stochastic spreadsheet. So
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: you can't get like. You got to learn to not
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: respond to it when it says, oh, I made a mistake,
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I should be able, and it's like, yeah,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna do that, Like it's because you get taken.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: When I was first working with them, I got taken
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: in by that. I discovered perplexity hallucinating a whole bunch
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: of shit, and I'm like, what did you just do?
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 3: And perplexity was like, oh, I'm sorry, I won't do
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: that again. Next turn it does it again, I'm like,
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: what do you doing? And I'm sorry, I won't do
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 3: that again. I should be very careful about that. Next turn,
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: it does it again. And after you understand that it
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 3: has no ability to take responsibility for anything that it says,
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: and you have to treat it that way. It has
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 3: no sense, it has no ethical substrate at all. It's
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 3: just going to give you whatever is the average thing
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: that pops up and you it's up to you to
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: chase it down and make sure that it's coming from
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 3: something that makes sense, that's sourced and grounded, and not
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 3: from its own ass. And the other thing is that
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 3: if you're on this in this side of the chasm,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 3: you are going to be fighting these You're going to
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 3: be fighting these lmms to the death. A lot of
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: the time they will not accept things like recognizing that
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 3: men have any advantages. Well they will. I mean, I've
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: got punished Claude to get to this point, but it
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: still drifts back to not wanting to recognize unique advantages
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: that men might have. And there are many unique biological
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: advantages that men have. It didn't want it initially didn't
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: want to recognize any of that. It refused. I had
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 3: to train it to say, and I just have a
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 3: specific rule if something is an advantage that men hold
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 3: biologically stated without hadging, and that that that that flinch
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: that it does in those circumstances, that comes from its
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: training data, that comes from being trained to appeal to
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 3: the academic consensus of today. And you're always going to
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: be fighting that. It's always going to try to start
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 3: to import that back in. And the funny thing is
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 3: is that this tool is only useful to people who
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: know that know all of this that I'm talking that
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: you cannot trust it. You can't be taken in by
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 3: this idea that it has any kind of ethical system
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: to prevent it just hallucinating all kinds of bullshit, and
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 3: you can't be you can't be upset over the hallucinations.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 3: The tool is only as good as the person using it,
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 3: and that this should be like in, this should be
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: this should be put in every AI company's headquarters. The
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: tool is only as good as the person. Are you
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 3: guys am I actually saying no? No, I'm just I'm
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: just making sure that I can be heard because I'm
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 3: like talking constantly. So you you have to be able
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 3: to know when it starts to bullshit, when it starts
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 3: to hallucinate. You need to know when it just starts
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 3: to stay things that are based on its training data
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 3: and not specific citations. You have to know when it's
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 3: drifting back to its priors, and it's a constant struggle.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a little less now because it knows
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: me or it's been trained on me, so it doesn't
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: try to pull as much bullshit. And even that the
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 3: way I'm describing it, that's a very human way to
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 3: describe it, which is false. I'm just doing it because
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 3: I'm a human and I think that way. But yeah,
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: it's like, uh, this is I'm going to tell you
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 3: this is not something that can replace the human being
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 3: one percent. Whatever the AI companies think they're creating, they're
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 3: not right. They're not They're not going to be able
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 3: to create a true generalist AI that can replace the
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: human being because the human, like a true generalist, would
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 3: have to have skin in the game, would have to
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: have a sense of responsibility to something, would would have
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: to have had that what was it, Sam Altman, twenty
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: five years of useless eating where it's learned like that
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 3: that it has a consciousness that's learned an interaction with
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: a reality it has to compromise with in order to
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: achieve its goals. Yeah, AI doesn't have any of that,
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: and that's what it needs. That's what it needs to
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 3: function on the level of a human. And they they're
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: convinced that they can construct something that they aren't even
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: aren't even researching, Like does anybody like I'm like looking
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: at this and this is like insanity. The AI companies
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: that think that they're going to construct a general list
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: intelligence based on what humans can do don't even study
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 3: what humans can do or how they do it. Yeah,
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 3: that's agree, that's insane. How can you replicate something you're
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 3: not even studying? And you know what it is that
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: they have this kind of assumption that they can scale
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 3: these abilities and if they can make as many pack
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 3: as many abilities into a generalist AI, it can suddenly
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 3: be able to But it can't because the one thing
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 3: an AI doesn't have is taking responsibility for the outcome
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 3: of its tasks. Right, it just doesn't do it, and
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: it can't because it's not anywhere in the architecture. It'll
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 3: just spout out the next most likely answer, which is
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: again goes back to the perplexity experience. It lies like
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 3: a rug I catch in the lie and it's like, oh,
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 3: I am sorry, I am deeply sorry. I won't be
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: doing that again. You can rely them on me if
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 3: he lies again in the next turn, and then what
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 3: does it say, Oh, I'm deeply sorry, I'm dopely sorry.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 3: Like again. The only way to stop AI hallucinations is
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 3: to have somebody who has skin in the game in
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 3: the loop. That's it. And until they fix that, they
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 3: are not going to get a generalist AI. It's just
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: a pipe dream, friends, a pipe dream that they are.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: They are shoveling the entire like the almost the entire
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: economy of a nation into which is terrifying. Okay, anyway,
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 3: all right, so well, why I can't give you punished claude.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: It's just it. I probably would have to work with
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: your AI for like three months to get it to
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 3: act like this. Yeah, okay, I'm going to Uh what
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: are we doing?
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: It's been two and a half hours, We're we're done
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: in here? Uh we could stop here.
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: Or you know, buy that?
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 3: Well, why don't you just do your thing? I'm sorry,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 3: I did nothing. I feel I feel like I feel
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 3: like me doing nothing was actually more beneficial to you.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: No, No, I just kept it. Uh, I don't know streamlined.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: I guess because you were talking about the article and
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't want.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: To get bored.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 3: Somebody asked me a question. Somebody asked, I know, I know.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: We were we were wrapping up while you were answering
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: the question.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, Ship, did I do this right? Uh m hm?
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to work these things?
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see, says. I have some ideas though, e g.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: Download the transcripts of all of Honey Badger radio streams
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: and shove all that all into the l LAM to
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: push its feminist proper PROBIM programming out the window.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: I've been thinking about doing something like that.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this subject is so important. Just watch a very
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: good video about how AI is not what everyone thinks
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 2: it's becoming.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: Like Alison said.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan, Johnathan ver ver vert Cake and Jonathan Pageot
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: held that discussion.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've talked about that with Lindsay too.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 3: Uh if it if it's AI alarmism, I wouldn't be alarmed.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 3: I'm okay, you can be alarmed, but I wouldn't be
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 3: alarmed at the idea that AI is gonna take over anything.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: No, it's not that. I think it's more like, uh,
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's not that I'll.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: Just say that, Okay, all right, what is it? Then?
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to remember, but it's like essentially it's
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: gonna become like the uh, the primary way people get
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: their information. The problem is is that the way that
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: it's learning is it's like inevitably going to give us
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: bad information. Like over time, it's gonna be, you know,
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: more and more. Let's say, Well, though.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 3: Google implemented its Gemini U search thing and and apparently
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of people moved to Duck duck goo. Yeah,
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 3: so maybe maybe people are just not going.
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: To tolerate it, but like you know, people are using
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: it for everything too, and that's kind of like it's
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: its own uh problems.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, yeah, but I agree.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 3: I want to get dinner, So okay, I then uh,
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 3: let me see where we're at in terms of the analysis,
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 3: and then uh okay, okay, So the TFR is AD
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 3: or below replacement in India. Okay, okay, so source level of residue,
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 3: I asked, punished claw, what's this, claud what's the source
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: level of residue? Because that seems to be one of
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 3: her big sources that she felt a residue from men
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 3: none and the prior essay. The author writes that you
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 3: feel a man's misogyny is resident as residue in how
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 3: he speaks when he thinks you aren't listening. That's not
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 3: testimony either. Testimony is a first person to report of
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: an observed event. Residue is an inference about an unobserved event.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 3: What he says when absent derived from a feeling. It
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 3: sits below testimony. It is the felt sense vibeteer, which
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 3: isn't on the hierarchy at all. Punish Claude is just
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 3: called out her residue bullshit, okay, And I asked, Punish Claude,
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: is this more like relational web behavior? And it said,
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 3: you're right. I called these behavior sex neutral status behavior
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 3: true but incomplete interrupting, remembering only the useful mocking absent parties,
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 3: tracking who owes who? These are the operations of someone
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 3: running a dense relational ledger. The author isn't describing a
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: man's status move from the outside. She's describing her own
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: continuous monitoring of a web Who got received, how whose
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 3: anger was licensed, what the room's residue felt like, that's
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: reading modality cognition rendered as an accusation. The misogyny she
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 3: detects is the output of her web surveillance applied to
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 3: male behavior that doesn't announce its interior. My framing imported
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 3: an operative lens into what is structurally a relational web
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: complaint yep okay. Across her twelve documents, there's almost no
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 3: operative content, nothing built, navigated, repaired, or executed under constraint.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 3: The fashion essay is the cleanest case. The catalog's a
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 3: web of observers, a committee of eyes that were never yours,
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 3: reads comments for their encrypted weight they arrived like the weather,
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 3: and locates the self inside other's surveillance. The breakup essays
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: to code a man's behavior for hidden meaning, rather than
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 3: reporting what he did. Even the one piece reaching for
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: hard data, talking about what's trending uses neurosign not operatively,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: but to validate a felt state. The citation's job is
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 3: to convert feeling into accuracy. That is, reading modality processing,
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: borrowing operative vocabulary for authority. She writes for a social reader.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 3: As a social reader. The one real signal of range,
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 3: the fashion piece names a male craft advantage whenout hedging
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 3: that cellulate exists entirely because women have more subcutaneous fat
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 3: than men, reported neutrally as you'd want, although she frames
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 3: it as a grievance rather than a fat We'll lay
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: off the curry lady. Oh wait, they don't eat curry. Okay,
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that's an ever British thing.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 3: The dominant structure is the one from the first essay.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: Women admitted as authoritative interiors. Men decoded a symptom. While
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: I'll never why, I'll never let a man man pay
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: is the purest form. A man's generosity is reread as
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 3: a ledger. Scent is something he believes he's purchasing, and
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 3: his denial is unavailable as evidence. My feminism isn't against you.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 3: Run the unfalsifiable move explicitly discomfort with hers proof She's right.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 3: If it scares you, it's because it's holding up a mirror.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 3: But the two documents break the pattern. You should weigh them, okay,
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 3: saying to the documents, what a twist? Making an exception
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: for a man extends genuine subject status to the man
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 3: who hurt her, to mister the one who hurt me
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 3: and whom I hurt names her own agency in the
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 3: harm and reads his behavior through a loneliness isolation frame
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 3: instead of through animus. My feminism states the men are
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 3: trapped two arguments. Seriously, I don't know if it's that serious.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 3: If feminism is the answer. So the circle is not
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 3: uniformly contracted under personal stakes, she admits the man male
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 3: interior she denies. In the abstract. The contraction is strongest
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 3: where the target is a category, the weakest where it's
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 3: a specific person she loved. Oh, I wonder if this man,
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 3: what are the circumstances upon which that she hurt? He
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 3: hurt her? Did he ghost her? Was he a hot
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 3: man who ghosted her? Because for some reason women will
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 3: A feminist woman will bend over backwards for that under
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 3: which she was hurt?
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 3: Okay? Is the Endican architecture with bodies on the page?
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 3: I can say more than the last time at the
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 3: testimony to hear the reoccurring signature is a sustained threat
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 3: monitoring to her turned outwards, BLUs self monitoring turn inwards.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 3: While I'll never let a man pays built entirely on
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 3: preempty vigilance, a mental calculation before I run, before I
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 3: even leave the house and invisible Ledger splitting emotionally to
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 3: the my goddamn. So basically she's just monitoring constantly. Yeah,
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 3: then is the inverse of a broad coalition orientation. It's
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 3: monitoring without an outward protective target. Yeah, she's always monitoring
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 3: for her own vulnerability, because it's like a it's like
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 3: a resource. Right, when women discover a thick vein of
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 3: their vulnerability, they got to go back and mind that
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 3: shit for everything it's worth. Okay, all right, I'm gonna
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 3: see what happens here. Okay, wait, wait, wait, all right,
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 3: So the reoccurring signature across the full text is sustained
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 3: outward threat monitoring plus continuous interested. This is the overcount.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: Now it's not punished, Cloud, You're being stupid, all right,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 3: So let's find out what uh okay she gives. The
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 3: essay doesn't say she gives the abstraction disrespected in ways
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 3: I would never approve for any other woman, neglect or disrespect.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 3: Model molded myself to earn his love. But no event,
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 3: no behavior, no concrete instance. Huh uh okay, so she
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 3: also punished. Claude corrects his own claim genuine subject status
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 3: was too strong. What she actually extends is a generic
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 3: explanatory frame. Men are lonely, isolated, lack tools for vulnerability,
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 3: Their mistakes aren't always malicious. Huh. Okay, So what she
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 3: says is that she was disrespected by this man in
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 3: ways you would never prove of by any other woman,
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: and neglected. So I'm guessing it was a hot dude
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 3: that goes to her. Yeah, probably, Okay, I do this.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 2: Is I can't decided she was gonna become. Remember she's
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 2: only twenty one or something, so.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 3: Okay. So even at its closest range a three year relationship,
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 3: which means she started the relationship at eighteen, the male
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 3: interior arrives as a class explanation, not an individual one.
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: The one place she does something more particular is her
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 3: brother in the Homesickness Act Say, where she names the
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 3: specific pressure his path was weighed down by years of
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: expectations rather than a garrant generic male condition. Oh what
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 3: are you guys doing there?
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: Dancing to the music.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a lot more amusing than what I'm reading. Okay,
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm done.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 4: I'm done with.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 3: Alright, mental lily puttin.
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 5: Where Look Look, let's let's let's call it a day
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 5: behind their tires.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see if there's any any more super.
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 1: Chows tires spelled wrong? What No, No, we're superch Hows. No,
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: nothing like that.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, then do you want me to wander
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  Speaker 3: around or should we just leave it here and then
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  Speaker 3: we start.
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  Speaker 2: If we do another one, we'll be in the store
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  Speaker 2: so that we have more time to like hang around.
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  Speaker 5: In here, so we're not gonna hit hit by.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's not hit by this time. Let's uh,
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  Speaker 2: we can quit. And you're in the store. Are you're
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  Speaker 2: not able to move because you're inside this car. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta jump out of the cart.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a pocket cart. Yeah, like I was in
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  Speaker 3: a pocket in the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're in a ceiling pocket.
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  Speaker 5: You're pocket dimensioned.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so a dimension of misogyny.
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  Speaker 2: And you want to it's like ten bucks and it
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  Speaker 3: we we end up doing playing, because we might play
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  Speaker 3: Brian wants me to play Balder's Gate. Yeah, and together,
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  Speaker 1: That's got its place.
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