Latest / The Good Side of Sports Podcast / Guardians of the Game: How Cleveland Baseball Gives Back
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- 0:06For over 125 years, there's been one constant in the
- 0:10city of Cleveland, and that's baseball. Since 1901,
- 0:13baseball has been the cornerstone of this city. Cleveland baseball
- 0:18has a rich history as one of the charter members of the American League,
- 0:21and they have been called the Bluebirds, the Naps, the Indians,
- 0:25and now Guardians. They have 2 World Series titles in 1920
- 0:29and 1948, 6 American League pennants, and 13
- 0:32Central Division titles. While the team has been there for the
- 0:36city, the city has been there for the team, especially during the record-setting
- 0:40455-game run of consecutive sellouts from 1995
- 0:45to 2001. This special bond has made the Cleveland Indians and
- 0:49now Cleveland Guardians Charities the special foundation that it is
- 0:52today. Formed in 1989, it takes all of what the teams gives
- 0:57on the field and continues to give in amazing ways off the field.
- 1:01Hello and welcome to another episode of the Good Side of Sports podcast,
- 1:06where we highlight the good being done by athletes and organizations
- 1:10and all the good they're doing to give back. Today we
- 1:14are taking our show on the road. We're here in Cleveland, Ohio, inside Cleveland Guardians
- 1:19headquarters where you'll find the Cleveland Guardians Charities.
- 1:22And today I'm joined by Penny Forster, Senior Director, Community Impact.
- 1:26So Penny, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for
- 1:29coming to Cleveland. Oh, no problem. Thank you for having us. And for me personally,
- 1:33it's super special because I've been an Indians
- 1:38and now Guardians fan for 50 years. So this means a lot to me for
- 1:41sure. So thank you again. Yeah. So it sounds like you guys
- 1:45are, and from our correspondence, on quite a bit of a run here.
- 1:48Last 6 weeks or so has been a little crazy. 6 weeks, we've had all
- 1:52of our major fundraisers, so now they're all out of the way and we can
- 1:54get back into the routine of the season. So we're excited, but everything was,
- 1:58was great. I was watching the game on the 9th, Tuesday night,
- 2:02Tuesday, and the Giveathon. And last time I saw the total was up to $170,000.
- 2:06What did you guys end up at? Ended up around $182,000. Okay. So, uh,
- 2:09fans were incredible. We had a lot of support and just helps us do even
- 2:13more in the community. Yeah, that's, that's crazy for a one, one-day event
- 2:17to raise that much. Um, what would you say is your, your biggest
- 2:21event yearly? Is that— it's become probably our golf outing
- 2:25as a singular event. Okay. Um, obviously our 50/50 that runs every single night in
- 2:29the ballpark is a big one for us too, but from an event standpoint,
- 2:31it's probably our golf outing. Uh, we moved to Firestone last year.
- 2:35Okay. Um, so it's been a really popular move for us, and we've had great
- 2:39success the last 2 years, and we'll look to continue to do so. What did
- 2:42you think that one brought in We are about $350,000
- 2:46raised at our golf event. Okay. So it's a great one. A lot of our
- 2:50alumni come back and participate. We've had a lot of current guys this year participate,
- 2:53so it's always a good time. And our fans and season ticket members
- 2:57love it. Who's the best golfer on the team? On the current team?
- 3:02I'm not sure about the current guys because they all try really hard, but they
- 3:06swing a golf club that they swing a baseball bat. I don't think it's the
- 3:09same. It's not. So I don't think our current guys, there's nobody that's like killing
- 3:12it out there. Okay. From an alumni standpoint, Kenny Lofton takes it very seriously.
- 3:15Okay. Um, we have quite a few alumni that do, but he's, he's always
- 3:19the one with, you know, the glove and he looks very professional. Nice. Yes.
- 3:23Of, of bringing in all the money, what is the most,
- 3:26um, top-of-mind category or initiative that you guys are
- 3:30doing now? I think for us, for, for CJC, a lot of our dollars go
- 3:34back immediately into the community with our programming. So that's what's most important to us.
- 3:38Um, so that might mean our RBI program, it might mean our Playball
- 3:42CLE program, which supports Little Leagues around Cleveland in the inner city and entering suburbs.
- 3:47Really, whatever we can do to continue to grow the game and provide access is
- 3:51where our dollars are going to go. We also— major projects related,
- 3:54we do field renovations around the city. As we all know,
- 3:58in Cleveland, Ohio, April, May may not be baseball weather as much as
- 4:02we want it to be. So we need to continue to turf fields and bring
- 4:06those into better condition so that they're playable on a much more consistent basis.
- 4:10Yeah, we stopped by on the way up here to the Jim Thome I mean,
- 4:14it's, it's amazing, amazing facility for sure.
- 4:18Yes. Um, one of my, my friend's family lives up here and they, they think
- 4:21they're part of your program because they have like free uniforms and all
- 4:25that's provided to them and stuff like that. So the RBI program, it's, it's all
- 4:28covered by us, all expenses. Really? What's the ages of, of that? We now
- 4:33ran our RBI program from 12U on the baseball side through college.
- 4:37We actually support the Cleveland State University club baseball team and the
- 4:41Tri-C, which is Cuyahoga Community College, their baseball and softball program. Okay. So literally from,
- 4:46from 12 to college, um, we've got kids playing within our RBI program.
- 4:50Wow. Um, so does— how many are in your department?
- 4:53Or my department, we're a small but mighty team. Okay. Um,
- 4:58there are 4 of us full-time working on all of this, and then we've got,
- 5:01um, a seasonal specialist who's incredible, an intern who's incredible. So,
- 5:05uh, small but mighty team. Wow. All that was just— yeah. And then our
- 5:09vice president is obviously a big, a big key of everything that we do.
- 5:12But, um, yeah, small but mighty team, we like to say. Do they— does that
- 5:15include like the social media and all of it?
- 5:19Um, yes, we're running Sealy Inspires, which is our social account.
- 5:23So if, if ever anything's missing from social, it's probably because I was supposed to
- 5:26post it and I'm still figuring out how to do so. Oh, okay. All right.
- 5:30Yeah, being starting to do this, I understand what you mean. So it's like I'm
- 5:33always asking my daughters, like, how do I do this? What do I do here?
- 5:35As the oldest member of the department, that's, that's usually me. Oh yeah.
- 5:40What, uh, what players are most involved in, in what you do?
- 5:44We're very lucky in that for the last few years, especially our team, the entire
- 5:48roster has been engaged in what we're doing in the community.
- 5:51Obviously, levels of involvement may vary based on what's
- 5:56happening in the season and where they are and all of that. And I think
- 5:59for us, there's really 2 that stand out to me anyways,
- 6:02one being Steven Quant. Everything he does is incredibly intentional,
- 6:07cares so much about our community, so much about Cleveland. Usually when I
- 6:11see him, the first thing he says to me is like, where can I help?
- 6:14What can I do? Really? Right now. So he's always in
- 6:18tune with kind of what we're doing in the community world. And he's got his
- 6:21own program with his Trust Club. And so that's been a really good one for
- 6:24us. The other one is Jose. He may not be as out
- 6:28and about as Stephen Kwan can be at times, but Jose truly cares about Cleveland.
- 6:33He truly cares about his hometown in Bonnie, and it's really important to him to
- 6:35give back in both. And he's, he's proven that year after year. Yeah. That's cool.
- 6:39So the city, did they get involved, like ask you like,
- 6:42hey, we, can we go this direction? Or we're very involved with the city and
- 6:47the Google Metropolitan School District. So those are 2 of our
- 6:50biggest partners in all of our community work.
- 6:54We cover the cost of all baseball and softball programming
- 6:57at the school district. So there's 11 high schools with baseball, softball. They were going
- 7:02to get rid of the sport about 25 years ago. And the Dolan
- 7:06family was— they were buying the team, so we won't let that happen. So we've
- 7:09been covering the cost of that since. Same thing with City Rec. We cover the
- 7:13cost and resources for City Rec in Cleveland and all of the rec centers to
- 7:16have baseball and softball. All the fields refurbished are technically City
- 7:21of Cleveland property, so we work in partnership with them on that.
- 7:24Um, so yeah, they're very deeply involved with us.
- 7:28Um, you know, I think there's a lot of accountability and things that we've worked
- 7:31on over the years, and it's gotten gotten it to a good place, and they
- 7:35definitely come to us for support on different initiatives that they have started or want
- 7:39support on. And we go to them when it's time to figure out, okay,
- 7:41what's the next field we should refurbish, because we want to make sure we're doing
- 7:45it where kids are playing. So how long have you been with the organization?
- 7:49I have been with the organization for 25 years, but I've only been in the
- 7:52community space, um, for about 5 and a half. Okay, because it started in '89?
- 7:57Yes, the charity itself I believe it was 89. And obviously
- 8:01we're kind of divided into 2 halves. So we've got our community impact team.
- 8:05Okay. And the charitable arm. There's a lot of crossover and it's all the same
- 8:084 of us working on everything. But there's a little bit of separation
- 8:12in kind of how we tackle certain things. If I know with the Giveathon,
- 8:17Giveathon, there was a lot of fan involvement. Is there, what, is there
- 8:20anything that they can do outside of that one, one event?
- 8:24Absolutely. No, the fans have been amazing. And I think especially over the last few
- 8:27years, they've really picked up on a lot of the work that we're doing and
- 8:30want to be a part of it in whatever way they can. So I always
- 8:33say 2 things. Follow us on Sealy Inspires if you're not already. Okay. That's where
- 8:37you're going to see all of the amazing things that's happening in our community.
- 8:39And there's different ways to support by seeing those events that
- 8:43are coming up and that type of thing. And then if you want to make
- 8:46a donation, that's also amazing. Okay. We can always—
- 8:51there's online donation form, but also participating in things like our 50/50 when you come
- 8:54to the game. All of that money is going back to, to our charities and
- 8:58then right out into the community. Is that something that you can do outside of
- 9:02being at the game, or is it— okay, it's online. Okay, as long as you
- 9:06are in the state of Ohio, you can participate. Gotcha. Okay, that's helpful. Okay,
- 9:10um, is there any former players that are really come
- 9:14back in and do— yeah, really starting to get into that more and more
- 9:17lately. Um, a lot of our alumni, we have an alumni ambassadors program And
- 9:21so we've got different alumni that come back throughout the season for different events and
- 9:25occasions, and we're really starting to incorporate them into community events as well, especially some
- 9:29of the younger alumni, because they were active in the community when they were here.
- 9:33Okay. Do it when they return. So we're really trying to work those into,
- 9:36you know, our youth camps and clinics and different events that we
- 9:40may have going on when they're here in town. So they're definitely getting involved.
- 9:44Do you, do you have any, any camps scheduled? We have 2 camps a
- 9:47week from now until the end of summer. Okay. Our youth camps are pretty popular.
- 9:52They were across the city. I think there's a total of like 30-some camps now,
- 9:56um, so 2 to 3 a week that are happening in different parts of Northeast
- 9:59Ohio. And, um, it's become very popular and it's run extremely
- 10:03well by our partner organization that runs those for us. Any players or former players
- 10:07show up to those too? Every week there's either an alumni or a current guy,
- 10:11depending on if we're on the road or not, that shows up at the camps
- 10:13and signs autographs for all the kids and talks to them for a bit.
- 10:16So it's a very cool experience. Is that something that's Does it— is there a
- 10:20cost to it, or— there is a cost to those. Okay. Um, because they're a
- 10:245-day camp, just like a lot of summer camps. Um, but then we also do
- 10:27free clinics on occasion throughout the summer as well at some of the different fields
- 10:30that we've created. Okay. So the— what are the— there's 3 main fields
- 10:35that I— when I was doing a little bit of research that I've seen,
- 10:37is that those— those are the 3? Is there any others beside those 3?
- 10:40There's also Leak Park, which we were a part of as well and continue to
- 10:44work with. In partnership with League Park. That was where we originally played baseball.
- 10:47Yeah, right. Yeah. Um, so we've charged League Park, and then we have Jim Thome
- 10:51Field, CeCe Sabathia Field, and Jose Ramirez Field. I can't get
- 10:55into too many details, but there will be more coming soon. Okay, awesome. The same
- 10:59style, like, of complex? Similar, but it's time for us
- 11:03to shift a little attention to softballs. Oh, nice. Okay, well,
- 11:06that's cool. Yeah, my daughter's played, so that would definitely be great. Yeah, girls need
- 11:11a home too, so we're excited about that. Is there any, uh,
- 11:15event or story that, that has really stood
- 11:19out to you? You know, I think for me, there's, there's so many different events
- 11:23that we've done in different situations where we've stepped in and
- 11:26had impact. But I think one thing that comes to mind from a
- 11:29community standpoint is tied to Jose.
- 11:33When he signed not this most recent extension, but before that,
- 11:37it was very important to him that he gives back not only here in Cleveland,
- 11:40but in his hometown of Bonilla in the Dominican Republic. Okay.
- 11:43So we said, well, let's figure out how we can help you do that
- 11:47in both places. So that's when Jose Ramirez Field was created.
- 11:50We built that, he supported that. And then we have actually gone back
- 11:54to the Dominican twice with him. I was on one of those trips and we've
- 11:58done clinics and given out equipment to all the kids in his hometown of Bonny,
- 12:02which I wasn't expecting how much baseball means to those kids already.
- 12:07It's very different than here. You know, when we have a free clinic here
- 12:11for a lot of the kids, it might be the first time they're picking up
- 12:13a bat or a baseball. Not down there. Okay. All right. But it might be
- 12:17the first time they're getting a real solid bat, you know what I
- 12:21mean? So it was very cool to see that, to see the passion they all
- 12:23have for the sport and to see Jose in that light,
- 12:27because to them, he's just Jose. He's from our neighborhood, right? He helps us
- 12:32out. He supports us. But they don't quite understand who he is here. Okay.
- 12:35But it's very cool to see that. And he obviously cares so much about
- 12:39both hometowns, right? That's cool. Yeah,
- 12:43he's definitely a special individual. Yeah. I mean,
- 12:46From contracts to just the way he plays. It's— I
- 12:50mean, yeah, it's— the kids learn a lot from watching him play. Yeah.
- 12:54And I think even the players, the players on the team,
- 12:58men follow his lead and stuff like that too.
- 13:01I don't know if you guys talk like other people in your position
- 13:05at other teams, like what's the relationship in Cleveland
- 13:10compared to other teams in their cities? And I actually this morning we
- 13:13have a monthly call with our counterparts in Detroit, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh.
- 13:17Okay. And I think for us, it's pretty similar in a
- 13:21lot of communities. But I think for us, we've been here, I mean, it's 125
- 13:24years, right? We are truly a pillar of the community. So it's important
- 13:28that we give back and support the fans that support us for so long.
- 13:31But also just from a city relationship,
- 13:34you know, I'm involved with a lot of different nonprofits that
- 13:38come to us for support. So I try to keep an understanding of what the
- 13:42needs are because we're always changing, especially in a city like ours.
- 13:46Okay. So I think it's important that we're always plugged into that. Do our best
- 13:49to be there and support when those different things arise. And, you know,
- 13:53the city's been great partners in bringing us to the table
- 13:56when we need, or when they think we can be plugged in to help create
- 13:59change or impact too. What is something that you think baseball is
- 14:03helping with something that's going on with the city? It's a
- 14:07good question. I would say for us, I guess I kind of
- 14:11lean on our RBI program and what that's doing for kids,
- 14:15particularly in the city of Cleveland, providing access to them and opportunities
- 14:19that they might not easily have on their own. Um, we know that
- 14:23the expense of youth sports is getting out of control in some cases,
- 14:27especially baseball, softball. So whatever we can do to remove
- 14:31any of those barriers for the families that need that support,
- 14:34we want to do that because those kids deserve the same opportunity that anyone
- 14:38else has. Sure. So whether that be just being able to play the game,
- 14:41getting introduced to the game, Or as far as they played
- 14:45now after high school and they want that college opportunity to play at the next
- 14:49level, we want to do whatever we can to support that and get them into
- 14:52the right programs and being seen by the coaches at college level and all of
- 14:56that. So we want to make sure that we're providing those opportunities. How many teams
- 14:59do you think you guys support?
- 15:03It's hard to say team-wise. I will say this,
- 15:06with all of our programming together The number is
- 15:10about 20,000 youth that are impacted by our work.
- 15:14When you drill down into individual programs,
- 15:17our RBI program is probably about 300 to 400 youth each
- 15:21year, depending on the number of teams we field. Some of our other programs are
- 15:25a little bit larger, our Play Well CLE program. So we provide a grant to
- 15:29just about every Little League association organization
- 15:33within the city of Cleveland and the entering suburbs, and along with some adaptive organizations
- 15:37as well that are providing adaptive baseball, softball needs. Um,
- 15:41so that program alone is about 3,000 youth. So, okay,
- 15:44when you start adding everything together, that collective impact
- 15:48is about 200 or 20,000. That's a lot. It is a
- 15:52lot. Um, we are proud to say that
- 15:55there is not a baseball or softball game happening in the city of Cleveland that's
- 16:00not happening because of the support or resources we provided. That's awesome. Yeah,
- 16:04some, some of, uh my future guests do,
- 16:08um, like the Miracle Fields down in Cincinnati. Do you, do you
- 16:12have any programs like that? What, the Miracle League, um, here in Northeast Ohio
- 16:16is one of our partners in that adaptive sports. Oh, okay, okay. So yeah,
- 16:20we do a lot of work with them. We've got a couple of really awesome
- 16:23adaptive programs in our, in our playball COE. There's Empower
- 16:27Sports, there's achievement centers for kids and children. So there's a lot that we try
- 16:31to do, um, because that's obviously important that they all have the same access
- 16:34to the sport too. Right, right. Um, so what do you think
- 16:38in total, is there a number that you've raised
- 16:42like since inception or? So I
- 16:46will, I will say this. I think the number that we're, we're safe saying right
- 16:50now, looking over 37 or so years of Cleveland
- 16:54Guardians Charities, we have probably put out, I think this
- 16:57is a minimum of $40 million back into the community.
- 17:03Um, I've actually asked that question recently of our finance team, so I want to
- 17:07try to figure that out as we approach our 40th anniversary. So trying to figure
- 17:10out what that number is, right? Um, and some of our data doesn't go back
- 17:13as far as it should. Okay. Um, but we think it's probably $40 million
- 17:17is a safe number to say right now. And, and that primarily is, let's say,
- 17:21corporate sponsors and fan participation? Yes, it's our, it's our
- 17:25partners for sure, it's our fans, and it's our players that have contributed over the
- 17:29years. Oh, they, they They put money in as well. Who's the— who, as far
- 17:32as corporate sponsors go, who is the major ones? So for us, we have quite
- 17:36a few of our partners that are— that have gotten involved recently. Um,
- 17:40Colleague and Colleague Giving is a big one for us right now. They sponsored our
- 17:42Giveathon the other night. Um, we've got many partners that are involved in our golf
- 17:46event. Obviously, that's a big one for them. They can entertain and whatnot.
- 17:49Um, I would say, you know, it's funny
- 17:53because I come from the partnerships world. That's the side of the business I was
- 17:56on for the first 19 seasons I was here. Okay. Um, so we've been able
- 18:00to bring that over to our space a little bit. Bit more. Um, we have
- 18:03a great partnership with Davey Tree, for instance, where we plant trees for every home
- 18:06run for our community. Okay. Um, so we can get pretty
- 18:10creative with our partners, which is good. That's good. Um, you've mentioned the RBI a
- 18:14couple times. Is that, is that a specific age group,
- 18:17or is it a level, playing level, or— us,
- 18:20we look at it, it starts at 12U on the, on the baseball side,
- 18:23and then 15U on the softball side. Okay. Um, every team— so RBI
- 18:27is a Major League Baseball program. There are RBI teams across the world.
- 18:32Okay. Most of them are tied to an MLB team, not all of them are.
- 18:35So as you'll see, it's a little different in every situation
- 18:38because some teams handle it a little differently. We took it completely in-house
- 18:42about 5 years ago, and we've been really—
- 18:46it's really grateful for the growth in that and the impact
- 18:50that we see because we now have kids that are starting at 12 and then
- 18:52they're staying with the program all the way through college. Okay. Our intern this year,
- 18:57Leon, he came from the RBI program. He's a sophomore at Kent State,
- 19:00but he played RBI a few years ago. Okay. Um, so we're starting to see
- 19:04that. We have another RBI alum from our program that's working for the Red Sox
- 19:08in video production. So we're starting to see those kids,
- 19:11um, get that love of the game at an early age. Okay. Use it
- 19:15to get to the college they want to get to because they can get,
- 19:18you know, scholarships and whatnot, and then, and then make a career out of it,
- 19:21which is awesome. Do they— does the RBI team, they travel Um,
- 19:25tournaments? Yes, so they mostly play,
- 19:29um, regionally, I will say, for the first part of the season. And then there's
- 19:33the MLB Regional Tournament every year where they're playing, you know, the Reds teams and
- 19:37the Tigers and the Pirates and whoever else. Um, and then if they win the
- 19:40regionals, they go to the World Series in Vero Beach, Florida. Oh, okay. Um,
- 19:44which we've had happen quite a few times. Yeah, I think our softball team is
- 19:47one of the more successful ones, um, in the United States, so That's always
- 19:51very cool to see. For a lot of those kids, it might be their first
- 19:54time getting on an airplane. Um, so you get to see a lot of growth
- 19:57in them over the course of the season, um, which is a really awesome thing.
- 20:01It happens to always be early August, so it's the hottest time you could possibly
- 20:05go to Florida, right? Um, so I mostly sit there and worry about
- 20:09hydration and all those fun things, but, uh, they have the time of their life
- 20:12and meet kids from literally across the globe. So it's a really cool program.
- 20:16The, uh, coaches, where do they— how do they get involved? Where do they come
- 20:19from? Our coaches, all our, our staff, so we, we pay them, they're paid staff.
- 20:24Um, our coaches, a majority of ours have come from the
- 20:27RBI program. Oh, okay. So the program, they've now come back to give back
- 20:31to it. Um, they are college baseball coaches.
- 20:34We have a police presence on our coaching staff. We've got teachers,
- 20:38like it runs the gamut. Um, but they pour their heart and soul into this
- 20:43program, and I can never speak enough about our coaches.
- 20:46Um, yes, they're good teaching baseball, softball technique,
- 20:49and they're great on the field, but they're more about the kids
- 20:53themselves and making sure that their growth and maturity is there and that
- 20:57they're learning the things that we know baseball can teach, right? Um,
- 21:00and truly like becoming a part of the family for, for those kids. We call
- 21:04our RBI teams a family, and it— you get that as soon as you start
- 21:08to meet them and the coaches and you see that family environment. It's some— sometimes
- 21:12they don't maybe get that where they're coming from before they play, and then this
- 21:15fills a void for them. We have coaches that I know are,
- 21:19you know, picking a kid up to get them to practice because they might not
- 21:22get there if they don't. They're making sure they've got lunch when practice is over.
- 21:26Like, there's a lot of those little things that they don't even often tell us,
- 21:30um, but it's just because of how much they care about the kids, which is
- 21:34truly all I care about, right? That's amazing. That's good.
- 21:38Um, I know The last 6 weeks have been crazy.
- 21:41And is there anything left to do? It's funny,
- 21:45we have this like deep breath now that our major events are over,
- 21:49but it's just meaning now that we're back more into our routine events. Okay.
- 21:52So like I said, summer camps are going on. RBI is
- 21:56really just taking off right now. Tryouts were at the end of May, so now
- 21:59the teams are just ramping up. So we have a lot of RBI stuff going
- 22:02on, all of our normal game programming and
- 22:06things that we have. You know, you'll see some one-off fundraising
- 22:10type things going on for Guards Charities and then just all of our programming.
- 22:13So we take a breath, but it doesn't stop.
- 22:17Um, what nonprofits are you currently engaged with
- 22:20as far as for funding and stuff like that? So there are a ton,
- 22:24and I, I like to, to kind of educate on this a little bit because
- 22:27I think it's confusing to a lot of people. So I've been trying to get
- 22:30better at educating on this. Okay. Um, for Guards Charities,
- 22:33all of our grants are very specific in the space of
- 22:38growing the game and youth support. So a lot of our philanthropic dollars
- 22:43that go into different nonprofits in Cleveland actually come from the team side and
- 22:47the community budget through the team side. So it's not so much grants as much
- 22:50as sponsorships of events and that type of thing. So on
- 22:54that side of things, I kind of put on a different hat, okay, and look
- 22:57at things a little differently. Um, for us, there's obviously some organizations we've
- 23:01worked with for a long time that we continue to support because the incredible work
- 23:05they're doing in our community. There's awesome relationships that we have,
- 23:09you know, the senior leadership and ownership level. So different
- 23:12orgs that we might support for that. There's other things that we
- 23:17want to be able to step in and provide support when there's a dire need.
- 23:21So whatever might be happening in the city, whatever might come
- 23:24up. A good example of this a few months ago when the federal shutdown was
- 23:28happening, SNAP benefits were ended for a short time. The Greater
- 23:32Cleveland Food Bank came to us and said, listen, you're one of our normal yearly
- 23:35supporters, would you mind doing more this time? We're like, of course.
- 23:39So those are the types of things that we try to plug into when we
- 23:42can. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of— I think Cleveland has
- 23:46like the most nonprofits per capita than any small city in America.
- 23:50So there's a lot of incredible organizations doing a lot of amazing work.
- 23:53Um, so it's always a hard part of my job is to figure out where
- 23:57we can best fit in and support and provide financial resources where we can.
- 24:02You said early on like that Cleveland's baseball has been a pillar of the city
- 24:07for so long. And, and, and it's amazing. I mean, you guys
- 24:10do a great job like front office-wise, what you
- 24:14do and stuff like that. And it's not a huge market, but you
- 24:18do so much with, with what you exactly get.
- 24:21So small, small but mighty. That's right. That's right. That's right.
- 24:25But no, I think it's it's important for us to be able to give
- 24:29back and provide support where we can. And so that's our focus. And I would
- 24:32say we're— we don't do anything, um, transactionally. That's also
- 24:37important to us. So if we're going to support an organization, it's more than just
- 24:40writing them a check. Um, you know, I want to know other ways that we
- 24:43can plug in and support as well. So we have those conversations early on.
- 24:47And that concludes our show. So tune in next time where I'll bring you another
- 24:51fantastic organization supporting a great cause. And remember, show your
- 24:56good side out there,