Latest / The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of / Eli McCann Stitched Interview from October 29th, 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We are in the presence of a man right now
- 0:02Speaker 1: in our studio who the New York Times, what was
- 0:06Speaker 1: the date on this sometime? October 9th. Said, the quilting
- 0:10Speaker 1: novel that stormed the bestseller list. Eli McCann had a
- 0:15Speaker 1: surprise hit with his debut novel, Stitched. He talks about
- 0:19Speaker 1: how he came to write the book and what its
- 0:21Speaker 1: success has meant. Good morning, Mr. McCann.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Good morning. Thanks for having me.
- 0:26Speaker 1: It's my pleasure.
- 0:27Speaker 3: So we've had Eli on before because he had a book,
- 0:30Speaker 3: which is mostly just a compilation of your columns in
- 0:33Speaker 3: the Salt Lake Tribune.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll come back anytime you guys will give
- 0:37Speaker 2: me attention.
- 0:39Speaker 1: So you put together those columns, and that sold pretty well.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:44Speaker 1: We're thankful for the moisture.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Yeah, we're thankful for the moisture.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We're thankful for the moisture. And so you wrote this novel, Stitched.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Why don't we just begin by telling us what it's about?
- 0:56Speaker 3: This is a book about a group of older women
- 0:59Speaker 3: who have been quilting together for decades, preparing for a
- 1:02Speaker 3: competition against their bitter rivals. And in the process, they
- 1:05Speaker 3: invite two younger gay men to join their group and
- 1:08Speaker 3: teach them how to quilt.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And the women in this book are based out of Ogden, Utah.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Yeah. My hometown.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Your hometown.
- 1:14Speaker 3: And the rival group that they hate, the villains, are
- 1:17Speaker 3: based out of Logan, Utah.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I would have made it Brigham City. Or
- 1:23Speaker 1: North Ogden. Because people in Ogden hate people in North Ogden.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. The competition that they're all attending is
- 1:29Speaker 2: in Smithfield, Utah. Oh, perfect.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've got small-town drama going on here. Part
- 1:34Speaker 3: of it takes place in Salt Lake City, Sugar House area.
- 1:37Speaker 1: How do you do a quilting competition? And how do you,
- 1:42Speaker 1: as an author, find out about all of that? Or
- 1:44Speaker 1: were you one of the gay men who were invited
- 1:46Speaker 1: to do it? No.
- 1:48Speaker 3: So this book was inspired by my mom and her friends.
- 1:50Speaker 3: My mom has been in her quilting group for 47 years.
- 1:53Speaker 3: They're called Common Threads. And I grew up under a
- 1:56Speaker 3: quilt frame and grew up around this. And about five
- 1:59Speaker 3: years ago, I was at dinner with my husband and
- 2:01Speaker 3: my parents, and my mom suddenly leaned across the table
- 2:04Speaker 3: and said, There is so much drama going on in
- 2:06Speaker 3: the quilting world right now. And then she spent the
- 2:10Speaker 3: next two hours at dinner telling us about all the
- 2:12Speaker 3: drama that was going on and the competition that she
- 2:14Speaker 3: had coming up and how they participated.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And we found it riveting.
- 2:18Speaker 3: And so when we left dinner that night, my husband
- 2:20Speaker 3: Skyler said to me, you need to write a book
- 2:22Speaker 3: about this.
- 2:22Speaker 2: This is really funny.
- 2:23Speaker 3: And so he and I came up with the idea
- 2:25Speaker 3: for the story of what ended up being the story
- 2:27Speaker 3: of Stitched. And so I started writing it, and I thought,
- 2:30Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody's ever going to read this,
- 2:32Speaker 3: but I wrote the damn thing, and it was kind
- 2:34Speaker 3: of fun to write.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You enjoyed it. You enjoyed the process. So how do
- 2:37Speaker 1: they compete? That's what I don't understand. How do you
- 2:40Speaker 1: compete in a quilting?
- 2:41Speaker 3: Yeah, so in the book, they enter a competition where
- 2:44Speaker 3: there is a theme for everybody's supposed to make a
- 2:46Speaker 3: quilt on theme, and the theme in the competition is,
- 2:48Speaker 3: I wish I knew how to quilt you.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Which is a play on Brokeback Mountain.
- 2:53Speaker 3: And it's, it's supposed to be quilts in the, in the,
- 2:55Speaker 3: in the vein of forbidden famous relationships. And so the,
- 2:59Speaker 3: everybody's supposed to come up with an idea to design
- 3:01Speaker 3: a quilt around a famous forbidden relationship. And so, and
- 3:05Speaker 3: then they, they all there, you know, there are criteria
- 3:07Speaker 3: they're supposed to hand quilt. They're supposed to, create quilts
- 3:10Speaker 3: of a certain size, and then groups can enter their
- 3:13Speaker 3: quilts into this competition, and they're all judged against one another,
- 3:16Speaker 3: and they all get scored.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I was sort of picturing, for some reason, that they
- 3:20Speaker 1: were all sitting there quilting at each other, but they
- 3:25Speaker 1: make the quilt, and then they take them and have
- 3:27Speaker 1: them do it. Is Lilith involved in the relationship? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:33Speaker 3: No, it's no, it was, it was really fun to
- 3:35Speaker 3: write the book. And by the way, it was so
- 3:37Speaker 3: hard for me to get it published. I looked for
- 3:40Speaker 3: a publisher for like a year and kept being told
- 3:42Speaker 3: by publishers across the country. We're not sure that there's
- 3:45Speaker 3: a market for a book about older women in Utah quilting.
- 3:48Speaker 2: And yeah, truly. So then do you go to them
- 3:51Speaker 2: with your New York Times listing?
- 3:53Speaker 1: Oh, how do you like me now?
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean, it's been pretty vindicating.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Yeah, the book debuted at number five on the New
- 3:58Speaker 3: York Times list last month. And and I had been
- 4:01Speaker 3: pressured by so many publishers to change it and write it,
- 4:05Speaker 3: rewrite it and have it be about younger women and
- 4:06Speaker 3: write romance into it and all this stuff. And it
- 4:09Speaker 3: was so frustrating to me because I just thought, who wouldn't?
- 4:12Speaker 3: This is so funny to me. And I was also
- 4:14Speaker 3: pressured to rewrite it and have it take place like
- 4:16Speaker 3: in a coastal city because people thought like nobody wants
- 4:18Speaker 3: to read about people in Utah, which was offensive to me.
- 4:22Speaker 3: And finally, I ended up working with Torrey House Press,
- 4:25Speaker 3: which is a local publisher, nonprofit press.
- 4:27Speaker 1: They're located in Torrey?
- 4:28Speaker 2: In Salt Lake City.
- 4:29Speaker 3: They're in Salt Lake City, but the founder came from Torrey.
- 4:33Speaker 3: And so that's why she named it Torrey House Press.
- 4:36Speaker 3: And they were they've been an incredible partner for me.
- 4:39Speaker 3: And sure enough, the book, there was a market for
- 4:42Speaker 3: it and it's done really well.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you. So I know that
- 4:45Speaker 1: in the writing process, when you're trying to get something published,
- 4:48Speaker 1: you work with editors and they. read it, and then
- 4:51Speaker 1: they make all these suggestions of how you should change it.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And you didn't crumble under any of that?
- 4:57Speaker 3: I didn't crumble under that with publishers that were trying
- 5:00Speaker 3: to get me to rewrite it to be something completely different.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Once I started working with Torrey House Press, the editors
- 5:05Speaker 3: at Torrey House Press had a lot of really valuable suggestions.
- 5:09Speaker 3: And so I ended up working with them quite a
- 5:11Speaker 3: lot on Improving the story, but they did not want
- 5:15Speaker 3: to change it into something different.
- 5:16Speaker 2: They just wanted to improve what it was.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And then they– so they submitted to the reviewers at
- 5:22Speaker 1: the New York Times and reviewers around the country. And
- 5:25Speaker 1: were you– what was– as you waited for that to
- 5:28Speaker 1: come in– I mean I remember being in plays and
- 5:31Speaker 1: waiting for the reviews to come in the next day
- 5:34Speaker 1: or that night or– What was it like waiting for that?
- 5:36Speaker 2: I was nervous.
- 5:38Speaker 3: This is my first novel, and I thought it was good,
- 5:40Speaker 3: but I could have been wrong. But we started getting
- 5:44Speaker 3: reviews from the trade magazines, the trade publications, late this summer,
- 5:48Speaker 3: and they were all really glowing and really positive. And
- 5:51Speaker 3: then once it made the New York Times list, the
- 5:54Speaker 3: New York Times did a review and wrote a profile
- 5:56Speaker 3: on me, and it was glowing. And so I feel very...
- 5:59Speaker 3: vindicated in that way validated yeah so.
- 6:02Speaker 1: It debuted at number five on the new york times
- 6:04Speaker 1: list it's called stitched by our the guy we're talking
- 6:07Speaker 1: to eli mccann uh on september 27th is it still on.
- 6:11Speaker 3: The list um i it wasn't on the list this
- 6:15Speaker 3: week it's been on and off the list and usa
- 6:17Speaker 3: today so yeah.
- 6:18Speaker 1: They they have really good things to say about it
- 6:20Speaker 1: in this review yeah in the new york times it's
- 6:22Speaker 1: just uh And they quote you as telling the story
- 6:28Speaker 1: that you just told us. Yeah. That's just fantastic. How
- 6:32Speaker 1: do we get this to Gene Smart?
- 6:34Speaker 2: And make a Netflix series out of it.
- 6:36Speaker 1: There you go.
- 6:37Speaker 2: I'm casting it right away.
- 6:38Speaker 1: That's a great idea.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Yeah, what I can tell you is I've had a
- 6:41Speaker 3: lot of meetings with people who are interested in optioning
- 6:44Speaker 3: this for film or TV, and I'm very close to
- 6:46Speaker 3: finalizing a deal for film right now.
- 6:49Speaker 1: And you can't tell us anything more than that.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Not right now. Maybe next week I could.
- 6:54Speaker 1: We'll have you back when you can tell us.
- 6:55Speaker 2: As soon as you have news, let us know.
- 6:57Speaker 1: It's Eli McCann. It's Stitched. I'm sure you can get
- 7:02Speaker 1: a Kindle version of it if you want. Yep.
- 7:05Speaker 2: I also recorded the audio book. Yeah, you're the perfect
- 7:08Speaker 2: person for that.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you're a good storyteller and telling your
- 7:13Speaker 1: own story here. This is great.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I can't wait to read it.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I'm excited to read it, and I'm excited for you,
- 7:20Speaker 1: and I feel like I know somebody really famous now.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. I really appreciate you having me here.
- 7:25Speaker 1: It's Eli McCann, and the book is Stitched, Get it now.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Torrey House Press is the publisher and supported by Back
- 7:34Speaker 1: of Beyond Books, Brightside Bookshop, and King's English, of course.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Yeah, go up to King's English.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Yeah, go get it at King's English. We got a
- 7:41Speaker 1: free copy. Yeah. Thanks, Eli. I want to sign it.
- 7:44Speaker 2: I'll sign it. I'll be happy to.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Thank you, Eli.