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Bringing The Funk With JAY WEINBERG From INFECTIOUS GROOVES · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Sure. Yeah, I'm Jay Weinberg. I'm going to be coming down to
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  Australia soon with Infectious Grooves. I'm incredibly excited, you know. It's it's
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  an amazing opportunity. Obviously, anytime you get to come to Australia, but
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  to come to Australia with some of your you know, musical heroes kind of
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  never really happens. So to be able to do this, for them to
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  ask me to be a part of this, you know, incredible chapter of
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  Infectious Grooves is is kind of amazing and mind blowing and it's been a lot
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  of fun so far. Well, thanks for joining us today. Jay,
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  it's the pleasure to have you, mate. Pleasure to be here. I've
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  got to say off the bat toom I like. Infectious Grooves have been around
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  for ages and I'd never never really given them much thought before, to be
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  honest, And as soon as you joined him, I thought, I've listened
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  to those guys, and I've been missing out. I've been missing out for
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  so many years. If fucking awesome, are they awesome? Absolutely? Well
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  there's you know, it's never too late, you know, to enjoy some
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  awesome music. So I'm glad you're tuned into it. I've been popping it
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  all more than bro. It's giving me a nice little tea up for the
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  day. Good. So Australia with Infectious Grooves soon for a run of shows
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  starting on March thirty in Melbourne before heading to Brisbane, followed by stopover at
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  Bar and Bay Blues Festivals, then Adelaide and finishing Sydney on April five.
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  But by my reckon and mind, they've only given you one day off to
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  enjoy yourself, So welcome back to tour. In life, I know,
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  it's not always kind of the shame of like when when you're an American band
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  coming to Australia, it's just really difficult to you know, obviously the goal
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  is to you know, play music for some of the best music fans that
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  are in the world, you know, for for US Americans, like you
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  know, it's it's it's. It is just such a shame that Australia is
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  so far away because it's kind of the consensus that it's like everybody's favorite place
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  to play and favorite place to go. Uh. But it is also a
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  shame that yeah, it's never really kind of baked into the tour itinerary for
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  much time off. I had one, you know, one experience about like
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  ten years ago or so maybe nine years ago as part of the sound Wave
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  Festival where you kind of it was kind of two weekends and then you had
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  like the we off in the middle that was awesome and I got to explore
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  a little bit. So we'll be seeing as much as we possibly can uh
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  here, but obviously our prime directive is to uh to rock in some some
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  faces in uh in Australia. But yeah, you know, we we never
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  have enough time, that's for sure. Yeah, But like in reality,
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  you're only playing the five shows, so the trolls are this is sort of
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  thing that like it's just go, go, go the whole time, and
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  you don't get a chance to take it all in into on the plane playing
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  home, or or do you sort of soak it up while you're in it
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  and live in the moment. Well, you try to be as present as
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  you can, for sure, in my experience. Yet oftentimes these tours where
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  you know, you travel to a destination in a country or you know,
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  new continent that you've never been to before or don't get to visit very often,
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  it tends to be yeah, very it tends to go by way quicker
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  than you you hope or you imagine, and you're just kind of like you're
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  just trying to hold on to a you know, moving freight train. That's
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  part of the excitement as well, you know, that's all, that's all
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  part of it. So for me, I think, you know, my
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  experience has always been like, there's a job to be done. There is
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  rock music to be made, and that's what we're there to do. And
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  if you know, if I can navigate all that and and execute on that
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  mission, then uh, then I feel like, you know, we've done
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  a good job. And then the kind of extracurricular things of hopefully being able
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  to take in the you know, the culture and life and everything that Australia
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  has to offer, you know, and that goes for anywhere, but now
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  that we're coming to Australia, you know, we hope to to you know,
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  explore as much as we can. And then yeah, oftentimes you end
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  up being on the flight home just being like what was this? That was
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  totally insane, you know, and that and that's part of why we we
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  do this in the in the first place, you know, is to make
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  those connections and and to travel to these places. We're so lucky that we
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  get to do it. So so yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be
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  a blast no matter what. Yeah, well before you come out here,
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  Yeah, you're going to be playing two shows in the US. How you
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  feel about that? Man? Like, are you nervous? You don't have
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  to it on the block? Yeah? I mean, you know, I
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  think, uh, I think, you know, part of being a rock
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  and roll musician is like you know, you've if you're not nervous, if
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  you're not if you're not you know, excited and challenging yourself in those ways,
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  it's it's oftentimes something like not worth doing, you know. So for
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  me, I thrive on that. I love that opportunity and that challenge to
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  you know, get integrated with with guys I haven't played before, played with
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  before, you know, a style of music that I feel is within the
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  framework of, you know, the genres that I've been accustomed to playing for
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  twenty years, but it is very specific, you know, and coming into
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  it having been asked to come into infectious grooves, I knew right away that
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  this would be an amazing challenge in that it's within my wheelhouse, I feel.
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  But it's also something that's very particular, very specific funk and groove or
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  oriented, which is fairly new for me, and I'm really excited by that.
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  Uh So, Yeah, to start it off, you know, kind
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  of in our backyard in uh in southern California with two shows is very exciting.
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  You know, it brings it back to where the band started, and
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  that's you know, it's it's a real honor to uh to kind of be
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  I feel like we're you know, we're revisiting in a way that you know,
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  that start of Infectious Grooves and the legacy and the people who have been
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  in Infectious and for myself just to be a part of that is an incredible
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  honor and uh and yeah, but it's a challenge that I'm I'm very much
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  looking forward to undertaking. And now now you mentioned that, mate, like
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  it right is a good point, Like it used to used to play in
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  fast and heavy like being with slipped off for ten years and now are you
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  coming into something that's bunking green arritted. So I don't know much about music,
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  bro, but like, is it is it a mindset that you've got
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  to put yourself in for some different is it technique you do different? Like
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  how do you change from one start or the other. It's a good question
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  if I if I knew a complete answer, you know, I wish I
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  did, but you know, but the best I can describe it is,
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  you know, no matter what it is, whatever, you know, whatever
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  band I'm playing with, I try to just approach it from a place of
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  authenticity and and have it come from the heart. Really, you know.
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  That's and that's I feel like approaching it like that. That's how my favorite
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  musicians approach things. And and you can kind of see that in any project,
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  if someone's played with a bunch of different projects, you can kind of
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  see that authenticity and that character kind of pop through in that. It's like,
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  I know the way I play, and if I can tailor that to
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  the specific needs of a group or a band, then I try to do
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  that and and just kind of try to be myself, but within the context
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  of something that's existed for you know, thirty years as Infectious has. So.
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  Yeah, you know, that's that's a challenge in and of itself,
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  where it's like, you know, what is what is the right way to
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  approach you know, a new like a very you know, the nuances.
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  It's all about the subtle nuances that make it different, you know, from
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  one project to another, because to me, it's like it's all rock and
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  roll. It's all you know, kind of within that umbrella. And from
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  that framework you start to kind of dissect the very little nuances and subtleties of
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  of what you're trying to do and and uh trying to fit the sonic character
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  of a certain band. Uh. So you know, being tasked with that,
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  having to you know, approach it and and execute on these songs,
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  uh that that have a specific style and come from it, come to it
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  from a place of a place of authenticity is very important to me. So
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  you know, it's like a it's like a delicate balance of just kind of
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  you know, bring in what I know, I do, you know,
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  and and these guys have asked me to just kind of bring it and be
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  myself and I'm I'm honored uh to to do that, you know. So
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  and we've we've practiced and recorded some new music together. So you know,
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  it's it's very much an exciting uh time for me. I'm just having the
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  time of my life, I bet you bright. But an Infectious Grooves,
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  of course, is made up of yourself. There's Mike Muir and Dean Pleasants
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  from Starsauto Tendency, you got Robtu Yellow who was originally from Star SATs but
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  now Metallica, Dave Kushner from Velvet Revolve a lot. It's pretty fucking impressive
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  collection. Bright Like you just sit there and look around you in jammory me
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  just go, look's pretty fucking good. Yeah, man, no, it
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  is. It is truly unreal. I mean playing with all those guys is
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  an absolute honor. And you know, whenever you get into a room with
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  new guys and and you're you know, you're playing together for the first time,
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  there is that like that crazy energy in the room of just kind of
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  feeling each other out and whatever. You know, it's a rhythm section,
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  I'll tell you. Finding the pocket with with Robert Trhio is like, that's
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  one of the greatest, most exciting things I've ever been fortunate enough to experience
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  in my life. Like as a drummer, that's just unreal, you know.
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  So, so that's been incredibly exciting. Play with with all these guys
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  has been awesome, and it really feels like it really feels like we've just
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  kind of gelled right off the bat, you know, and only looking forward
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  to this tour is like, you know, I don't I don't know if
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  we'll have another opportunity just because everybody has a lot of very busy schedules.
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  So you know, we're just kind of looking at this as a great opportunity
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  to celebrate Infectious and uh and you know, give it a little new attitude
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  and and some new sounds, some new new song. Yes, it's like
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  it's super super cool and yeah, playing with those guys is an absolute treat.
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  Yeah, now said The first show is in Melbourne on March of thirtieth,
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  mate, So excuse me, it's only going to be your third every
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  gig with Infectious Greens, Right, So what do you like at the back
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  there? Like are you are you sitting at the back just concentrating on what
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  you're doing, or are you looking around and and loving life like it's it's
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  it gonna be pretty hard for you. Yeah, it's a bit of both.
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  I mean, you know, like with anything, any new thing,
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  you're kind of finding your sea legs, you know, at when you when
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  you first start out. So yeah, you're you know I'm kind of exploring
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  this territory and feeling it out, feeling literally, you know, the different
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  grooves that I'm now playing songs that I've never played before. That's very exciting.
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  Uh. But yeah, the fact that you know, it's come together
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  so well and kind of effortlessly, all all at once, it's uh,
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  it is like I am able to lose myself in, you know, in
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  in those spaces in some certa in certain songs. That's really exciting to to
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  already be at that place with like a new group of guys. You know,
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  it's in my experience that's a difficult kind of place to find. So
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  to find that in our first like two jam sessions is like incredibly exciting.
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  Yeah, I'm interested to I too. Bro Like, did they encourage you
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  to bring your own flair and started the drum still or did they sort of
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  give you a probt it's to sort of work within the infictious great sound.
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  Yeah, well that was kind of you know, as as Mike and I
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  were speaking. You know, Mike and I are our friendship goes back to
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  some of my first tours with Slipknot were with Suicidal and uh, and we
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  play with them you know, we would play with them all the time.
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  So Mike and I kind of have an understanding and and uh have been friends
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  for a little while, and when he approached me to do this, that
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  was kind of what he told me, is like, we want you to
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  bring you you know, like uh, I mean, look, they've you
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  know, Infectious has had uh has had a king's ransom of some of the
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  best drummers on earth, you know, playing and Affectious. So you know,
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  looking to what those guys have done, and I'm so inspired. You
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  know, all those guys have been my inspiration since I was a young person
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  just figuring out, you know, how to play drums. But so you
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  know, like I, like I said before, you know, approaching it
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  from that place of authenticity. I think that was one thing that resonated with
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  Mike as I was speaking to him, getting integrated within this is like do
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  you come at this with what you've got? And you know, obviously that's
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  like, you know, the songs are the songs, So we play the
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  songs. But it's like, I'm you know, I'm not gonna sound like
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  another guy who's been Infectious before, because that's not the goal. You know,
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  the goal isn't to replicate that. The goal is to just come at
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  it from a place of sincerity, in a place of like true you know,
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  have a true kind of true hearted approach to h to playing this music.
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  And and so when when they brought me on board with that, that
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  kind of spoke to my sensibility of like, I know how to approach this.
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  You know, it's it's about understanding where the songs come from and then
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  figuring out in my own way, how I approach that and have it come
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  across, you know, from a place of sincerity and authenticity. And here's
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  the truth that Mark's forteen year old son's pretty much instrumental behind getting getting into
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  the bed. Yeah, yeah, from what I from what you know,
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  we've we've talked about. Yeah, you know, because I think Mike was
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  unsure. You know, he saw that I had hip surgery a couple months
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  ago, and I think he was unsure about you know, I'm not sure
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  what his playing schedule is like when he's going to be back on the kit.
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  You know, my goal has always been, uh to recover from this
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  surgery hopefully, and like back when I got the surgery originally in November,
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  I had hoped that I'd be on back on the drums, getting getting my
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  sea legs back around like mid March, and then be ready to like play
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  the way I really do by like mid April. But I'm really pleased that,
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  you know, through rigorous you know, physical therapy and just really doing
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  all the right things that I've been told by my doctors to do, I've
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  been ahead of schedule. So I've already been back on the drums for a
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  month and uh, and that's felt awesome. But he didn't know, so
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  he you know, his son was asking like, I don't you know,
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  I don't know if Jay's ready to play, but like you should hit up
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  Jay to see if he would do this, and so so Mike was like,
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  maybe he will be ready by then, know by uh by mid March
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  to to play some shows. So when he when he called me to do
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  it, I mean I was still on crutches, Like I was still you
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  know, I was still kind of getting used to my physical therapy, you
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  know, schedule and everything. But right then and there, I was like,
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  yes, I will do it. I will find a way to do
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  it. I'll talk to my doctor and make sure he's cool with me doing
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  it, but I'm sure it's gonna be cool and uh and yeah, so
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  you know, I'm very pleased that that the whole your family has it's been
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  an effort to get me on board. So I'm very grateful for that.
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  You want to buy that, get a packet of baseball cards or something.
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  Bran absolutely absolutely, yeah, we we we had a We had a great
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  you know, great hug about it for sure. When I got to the
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  practice, I bet so the other subject give you surgery Bright, how did
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  it go? Is it some of that's gonna heal like the time when you
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  be back to one hundred percent or is it? Is it gonna have a
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  lingering effect on you for life? No? I mean I feel really good
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  right now, you know it? Uh, it was a it was a
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  It was an injury that was like sustained over years of honestly from running.
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  Was the thing that did it that that hurt me the most? Exercise?
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  Yeah, yeah, no, And that's my favorite way of exercising because when
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  you're on tour, you can just like I'm going to run an hour that
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  way and an hour back and that was like my favorite way to exercise.
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  But in about the summer of twenty seventeen or eighteen, I would go for
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  a run and like five minutes in I'd be in like debilitating pain on my
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  left side. And I had no idea why, but I found out that
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  I had a misshapen bone. My femur as it goes into my hip was
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  misshapen. It had a little bit of extra bone. So as I was
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  running and when I was younger, I used to kickbox, that motion would
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  bash up against the labrum of my left hip and so it tore it over
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  time. And and so I, you know, got got together with a
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  doctor who does this kind of operation all the time on athletes and stuff,
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  and he was like, hey, I do this kind of operation all the
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  time. You should get it done while you're younger than as opposed to risking
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  your joint deteriorating, you know, by not doing anything about this. So
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  it's always been a goal to do it, but it was always a you
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  know, a moving target for about six years, you know, as I
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  had a very rigorous touring and recording schedule, I didn't really have a period
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  of time because it was you know, as it was clear to me I
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  would need a period of between four to six months to fully recover, you
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  know, luckily to this point, it's been three and a half months,
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  and I feel really good. I'm able to play obviously. You know,
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  when you're on crutches for six weeks, you lose a tremendous amount of power
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  in your legs. So I'm just kind of you know, I'm getting that
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  back gradually and just doing all the right things. But but no, that's
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  the goal is to you know, get back to one hundred percent. That's
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  why I did the surgery, you know, was so I could get back
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  to running, get back to doing all the things that I love without having
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  pain in my life. So so yeah, so I already feel really great.
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  My physical therapist says I should be back to running by July, which
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  is which is really nice. And and yeah, that's the idea is like
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  having done it at you know, a relatively young age, I don't run
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  the risk of having done further damage to the joint. And and yes,
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  I'm really really happy to have you know, bitten the bullet. Yeah it
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  sucked to do it, but like you know, as I'm here now able
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  to you know, with a with a greater range of motion and just getting
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  everything back, I'm so pleased to have done it. Yeah, just to
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  plorify you, Mike, Like, are you actually a member of Infectious Girds
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  now or are you just sort of filling in the time being. I'm not
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  really sure. You know, I don't really put a name to anything like
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  that. You know, like, as far as I'm aware, you know,
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  this is the only tour that we can do. You know, everybody's
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  got such busy schedules, so I don't really know if you know, if
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  those guys are open to doing more, and and you know, we had
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  a great time in the studio this past weekend putting together a new song,
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  so you know, if those guys say, hey, we want to do
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  more shows, Hey we want to record more, I'm absolutely into it because
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  it's you know, it's such a such a thrill playing with those guys.
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  But we'll see, I mean, it's so new, you know, it's
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  such a new friendship and relationship that it's like we're all just really enjoying the
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  excitement of it being this fresh new thing. So whatever's down the road,
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  I'm certainly into it if those guys are, and you know, we'll just
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  see small on your face says it all. Brouh you don't even have to
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  sign any woods just as small on your face as it all. Yeah,
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  I'm pumped, man, I mean, you know, there's no better way
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  to you know, come off the heels of like a you know, my
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  first ever surgery that had me laid up for months. You know there's no
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  better way to come out of that than to be going to Australia with Infectious
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  Grooves? Are you kidding me? Like I'm I'm incredibly grateful and it's it's
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  just such a you know, such an amazing thing to be a part of.
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  So I'm incredibly happy, excited, gracious all of it. Now,
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  you brought this up a couple of timest so we'll explore it now. But
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  what each has emerged of you guys in the studio with a strong hint that
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  there is a song being done is can you confirm or Tony is it new
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  music? I can confirm. Yeah, there's new Infectious Grooves music on the
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  way. I hope it'll be out before the tour. Well, you know,
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  I'm not sure. I'm not sure how you know how all that stuff
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  goes. I know, you know obviously it always takes so always takes longer
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  than we always want, you know, to We always want, like the
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  song that we just made to be available immediately. You know, that's just
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  always the case. But there's you know, uh, it's got to get
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  worked on. But no, there is new stuff. It's it's awesome.
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  I'm super pumped on it, you know, like we like we spoke about
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  earlier. It's like, you know, you find the sonic character of a
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  new band, and it is that kind of balance of like you know,
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  respect doing the lineage of the band and where it's been and and stuff.
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  But like, you know, having been asked to come in this and approach
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  it from a place the only way I know how, which is just to
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  be myself. That was a cool little you know, puzzle kind of problem
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  to figure out how to how to do that. How would I approach you
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  know, how would I approach drumming on a new, infectious groove song.
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  So with what we came up with, I'm incredibly excited. It's kind of
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  a new style for me, you know, which is which is exciting.
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  I think for any musician to be able to kind of branch out and show
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  a little bit of versatility and some different stuff than I've ever really been able
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  to play before. So yeah, I'm very excited for people to hear it.
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  Now. Don't just change this with that. My insight, it's different,
• 20:41
  something you've never done before. Elaborate, tell what what what can we
• 20:44
  expect? I mean, you know, God, I mean it's it's difficult
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  to to put it into words just because, like you know, it's all
• 20:55
  about the music. That's why we play the music is because there aren't words
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  to describe how how it is, you know, what the feeling is or
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  whatever. That's what the music is there for. But you know, I
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  think I think as people have been kind of putting together and we've tried kind
• 21:10
  of teasing it a little bit of what, you know, what we're what
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  we're doing with, you know, some fly on the wall footage of us
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  jamming for the first time. You know, I think as far as my
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  contribution is, like you know, I can't I can't escape being, you
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  know, being the drummer that I am. I I always will bring you
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  know, the things that I like to play about the drums into it.
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  But that but that being said, you know, there are I like to
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  think that, you know, as any musician should, having a wide variety
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  of of inputs and inspirations and stuff that filters into the music that we then
• 21:48
  record and and play, you know. So I feel like I'm getting to
• 21:52
  show some more influences than I've ever been able to show before. I'm showing
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  my you know, my Bill Warred appreciation in uh in some moments my who
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  else amight kind of tapping into with uh? With this God, It's it's
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  difficult to to put a name to it, but like there's definitely some bill
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  Ward moments that I was like, Wow, like this is where I'm gonna
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  you know, this is where I'm gonna show you know, my inner bill
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  Ward kind of you know, that's pretty exciting. But that being said,
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  like it's it. It takes twists and turns and it's it's a pretty awesome
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  you know, eclectic showing from uh from infectious. So yeah, it's uh,
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  it's a wild thing to be a part of. As you can probably
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  tell. Like I'm still buzzing from it. I still kind of you know,
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  we we came up with it basically on the day, you know,
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  in the studio we were it was. It was awesome to have Adam Siegel
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  involved, who obviously Infectious Grooves fans are you know they know Adam, excuse
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  me to so to have all these guys involved in, everybody in the studio
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  just kind of getting our hands dirty and and making it all happen pretty much
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  within the space of a day. You know, we had an arrange,
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  we had a basic arrangement kind of in mind, but then throwing it all
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  together and seeing what, you know, what would happen. That's so exciting
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  to me, Like those are my favorite moments in the studio where you really
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  you know, you enter and the goal is to get something inspired and instinctual
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  and uh, and that's what we left the studio with. So I'm very
• 23:25
  excited for everybody to hear it well. And then at this SiGe, is
• 23:27
  it just a one off single or you plany on maybe extended to an album?
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  We'll see, uh. For right now, we got one song,
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  you know, I think that's a good little litmus test for you know,
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  everybody's uh uh, you know our chemistry and and you know what we're doing
• 23:45
  here. I think that was just a great idea by those guys to be
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  like, you know, obviously we're going to play you know that the Infectious
• 23:52
  hits that everybody wants to hear. But what would it be like if we
• 23:55
  came with something new, you know? And that's that's just like incredibly exciting
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  to me because I'm always is the most amped up about new stuff, you
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  know, and to be coming up with new ideas and trying to push something
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  forwards. So the fact that that's on their radar as well is really cool.
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  And to be, you know, to be involved in it the way
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  I have been so far is like been such an honor and and yeah,
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  it seems like, you know, it's all it's all coming together and you
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  know, but I think one song is a good, you know, litmus
• 24:27
  test for people to uh to hear this iteration of infectious good. Yeah.
• 24:32
  So what's the things for Jay Weinberg after this tour? Mate? Like it's
• 24:34
  been a well wind ten years, but especially last six months, where you
• 24:38
  bro, are you going to take time out yourself where you're just gonna plunge
• 24:41
  straight back into something? I mean, I'm I'm always I'm I'm kind of
• 24:47
  I'm always looking for, you know, the next thing to do. I'm
• 24:51
  somebody who doesn't really do well with downtime. I always like to be creatively
• 24:56
  active in some way or another kind of all the time. I'm uh,
• 25:00
  you know, I'm sure, I'm sure my dogs and my wife are losing
• 25:06
  their patients with how active I like to be. But yeah, with that
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  said, no, it's you know, I'm I'm very much excited and looking
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  forward to a year of of a lot of new things, lots of things
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  I haven't been able to do for years, uh you know, and and
• 25:22
  and get to branch out in ways that I haven't before. So that's all
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  very exciting, exciting things that are yet to be announced, I'll say,
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  and uh and yeah, and I'm also you know, it's some of my
• 25:37
  favorite stuff is is doing things that are a little bit more uh independent,
• 25:41
  and a little bit more just kind of in your face. I suppose it's
• 25:45
  like a way to put it, like I've I've worked with my uh the
• 25:51
  drum company that I play, s JC Custom Drums. We've done a lot
• 25:55
  of di y events where it, uh, it's kind of an opportunity need
• 26:00
  to to bring like a large scale kind of rock show and just distill it
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  to you know, what we can do in a drum clinic setting, but
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  make it more than a clinic sort of thing. So you know, I've
• 26:15
  I've been asked quite like quite a number of times about you know, the
• 26:18
  twists and turns of my career thus far, and how like, you know,
• 26:25
  people often kind of are like, okay, so like Slipnot on one
• 26:29
  hand and Bruce Springsteen in the E Street Band on the upper hand, and
• 26:33
  like, how do you do how does one bridge that gap of doing both
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  and making it, like I said before, approaching both from a place of
• 26:41
  authenticity. So I'm I'm kind of embarking this year on doing a lot of
• 26:47
  those independent things where it kind of you know, I want to share in
• 26:52
  those things, and and looking to the future the amazing things that I'm a
• 26:56
  part of, you know, infectious and beyond. I'm gonna be uh yeah,
• 27:00
  setting up a lot of kind of independent stuff like that, which is
• 27:03
  incredibly exciting for me. And yeah, there are there are projects in the
• 27:08
  pipeline that the world should be finding out pretty soon. So uh so we'll
• 27:12
  just keep you posting