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Pete Shaw | What is Metfix? The Clydesdale Media Podcast · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Hey, hey, chill.
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  Let's go.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
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  My name is Scott Switzer.
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  I'm so glad for you to be here.
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  Normally, we do lunch with the Clydesdale.
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  Today,
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  we are interrupting that series to
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  do a podcast and to learn
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  about what is Metfix.
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  So I have with me today...
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  the head of Metfix Education, Pete Shaw,
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  two-time CrossFit Games athlete,
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  long-time seminar staff member,
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  affiliate owner too, correct,
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  or just worked in the field?
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  No, former CrossFit affiliate owner.
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  Yeah,
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  currently coach at a CrossFit affiliate,
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  and I run a Metfix program
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  out of there as well.
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  Okay.
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  Awesome.
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  So we're going to learn about MythFix.
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  Ever since it's been
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  announced that Greg and
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  Emily were going to put this together,
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  there's been a lot of
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  anticipation about what it is.
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  Then it's released,
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  and there's been a lot of
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  questions ever since.
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  So I'm hoping that today's
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  podcast answers a lot of
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  questions for everybody and
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  lets them know what exactly MedFix is,
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  what it can do,
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  how it works together with CrossFit,
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  or is it competing with CrossFit?
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  We've had those questions out there.
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  So I'm going to give you
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  where I am in my education of MedFix,
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  and I want you to
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  straighten me out today.
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  First of all, I'm here with an open mind.
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  I'm here to hear what you
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  guys have to say.
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  Two,
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  I think that my interpretation of what
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  it is is we were promised
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  that there was this
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  non-compete that Greg had,
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  and once it was over,
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  he was going to come out
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  with something to help the
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  world through metabolic
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  issues in health and science.
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  He did that.
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  A lot of it is based on what
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  he did through CrossFit.
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  He is looking at this now as
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  that CrossFit has lost its North Star.
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  met fix is to straighten all
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  that out and get back to
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  the basics just like a ball
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  player who can't hit
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  anymore you got to get back
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  to the roots of of
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  everything and he's trying
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  to put a little bit extra
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  on top uh that he's learned
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  in the time since he
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  developed all of this and
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  he likes to call it the
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  cream on his cake um we
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  call it icing here in ohio but um
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  And so that's kind of where
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  I am with it all.
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  It is very much based on the
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  teachings he has taught all
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  of us CrossFitters for years.
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  And now he has learned a
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  little bit more that he
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  wants to add to that.
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  But he also wants to
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  straighten us out because
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  we've strayed away from
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  those basic teachings to something else.
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  So I am a CrossFit L-One.
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  I've been this,
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  I'm in my tenth year as being an L-One.
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  I've coached in a gym.
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  And then I gave that up to
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  do this media thing.
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  But I still keep my L-I active.
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  I've been a judge at competitions.
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  I've done a lot of things like that.
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  So that is my background.
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  Plus,
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  I was five hundred pounds when I
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  started CrossFit in two thousand eleven.
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  Lost two hundred and fifty pounds.
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  Got off all of the medicines I was on.
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  And so the basic teachings
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  of Greg Glassman saved my life.
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  Congratulations on all that stuff.
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  Holding your L-I and
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  the weight loss and success story.
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  It's incredible.
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  So that's where I am.
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  I want you to straighten me out.
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  So let's first talk about
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  what happened when Greg sold CrossFit.
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  He signed a non-compete.
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  Yeah.
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  Him and Emily said,
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  when that non-compete is done,
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  we are coming out with something.
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  Take us from there to the
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  beginning of this story.
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  Yeah.
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  So you're totally right on that.
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  And, and that was a great, uh,
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  first of all, that whole spiel there,
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  that's a great perspective on it.
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  There's some nuance in there for sure that,
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  you know, we can talk about and tease out,
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  but for the most part,
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  you've got a handle on things for sure.
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  And yeah, Greg did, uh,
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  and before we go on,
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  I should thank you for
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  having me on Scott.
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  Thank you so much.
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  I really appreciate you
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  taking the time to have you
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  on the podcast.
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  Um,
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  So Greg's non-compete ended and I mean,
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  For me personally, I'm not a legal expert,
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  but if a hundred percent
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  there's carry over from
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  CrossFit to Metfix,
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  we're not trying to deny that.
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  Greg still holds the rights
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  to all his writings.
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  He still holds the rights to
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  his speeches and his videos,
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  and it wouldn't make sense
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  to continue something
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  without those as well.
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  You know,
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  although CrossFit retains the
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  right to use those in a
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  commercial sense in perpetuity, you know,
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  Greg personally still owns that material.
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  And and.
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  Of course, legally, I'm not a lawyer.
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  There's there's some nuance there that it.
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  was necessary to wait until
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  that non-compete was over,
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  until anything that even
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  remotely looked like Greg
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  was digging into his own
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  material was gonna be formulated.
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  So here we are, we've got Metfix.
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  And the intent is certainly to build on
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  would already exist.
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  It's not to step on that stuff.
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  Like you said,
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  I'm a former level one and
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  level two Flowmaster.
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  I recently resigned from
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  CrossFit to do this job,
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  but I would have loved to keep doing it.
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  But it's not just the
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  situation's not letting me do that.
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  But those are nearly perfect courses.
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  Those are nearly perfect courses,
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  the level one and the level two.
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  You took your level one.
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  Anyone who goes to those
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  courses has their mind blown.
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  But you're restricted in two
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  days with what you can learn.
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  You're highly restricted.
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  There's a time limit on things.
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  There's only so much
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  material you can cover.
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  The level one's focused on Greg's kernel,
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  his original methodology.
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  And
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  It focuses heavily on movement.
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  That's the reality of it.
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  Because if you're going to
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  open up a gym and go into training,
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  you need to be able to do that stuff.
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  And then there's one lecture on nutrition,
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  right?
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  You remember that?
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  And that's still the way
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  that- From the first time I
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  took it to the second time I took it,
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  that changed greatly,
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  the nutrition piece.
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  Yeah, the lecture,
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  you mean the lecture itself?
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  Correct.
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  Yeah,
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  but not in terms of how much is being
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  covered.
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  It was still a single lecture, right?
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  Correct.
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  But some of the content was
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  massaged and how it was
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  delivered maybe slightly differently.
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  But in terms of the proportion of content,
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  it's still a single lecture.
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  Since you've taken the dive into the L-One,
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  you guys have what is a
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  two-day foundations seminar, right?
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  Am I correct on that?
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  At MedFix?
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  And so, so at MedFix, the, the, when,
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  so I w I was brought in, uh,
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  to take the curriculum that,
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  that Greg and Emily and Bob,
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  I don't know if you know who Bob is,
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  but obviously everyone
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  knows who Greg and Emily are.
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  They're fifty-fifty in, in the company.
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  And, you know, Emily's got, uh, you know,
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  an incredible background in
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  her own right.
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  She's, you know, she's a,
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  a journalist by trade.
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  She worked for ABC and all
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  these different high news companies.
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  But but she also her and her husband,
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  they own a chain of gyms in Boston.
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  And she's a serial entrepreneur,
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  has her hands in a bunch of stuff.
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  But she's run many businesses before.
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  But her her experience as a
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  gym owner really influences
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  how she wants to move
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  forward with this stuff.
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  And Bob Kaplan, her husband,
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  was the former head of
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  research at the Peter T podcast.
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  um I don't know if you're
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  familiar with peter attia
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  but peter attia was one of
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  the first sort of pop
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  culture doctors to come
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  onto the scene with a big
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  podcast and take these sort
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  of more nuanced technical
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  and complicated concepts in
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  medicine and and science
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  and try to deliver that to
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  the lay person and so then
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  after that became you know
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  you got like hooberman and you've got um
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  Who's the girl that was
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  recently interviewed on the
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  CrossFit podcast?
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  I don't know.
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  Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
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  She goes on to Joe Rogan's podcast.
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  So Peter Atiyah was one of
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  the big early ones.
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  And Bob ran the research
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  department for Peter,
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  not just his podcast.
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  It was partly Bob's idea to
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  create that podcast.
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  But he was also in charge of
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  helping Peter research what
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  he needed to know to run
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  his actual practice because
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  Peter Atiyah is a practicing physician.
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  And so Bob's got this extensive,
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  extensive background,
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  and now he's the chief scientist at, uh,
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  at MedFix and they,
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  the three of those guys, Bob, Emily,
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  and Greg,
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  they wrote out this curriculum
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  and they needed it to be
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  condensed down into,
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  into a two day course.
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  And so what they brought me
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  in for is to help them do that.
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  Obviously with my seminar
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  experience and having spent so,
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  so much time coaching and
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  running some independent, um, you know,
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  coaching seminars on my own.
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  locally and abroad,
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  independent of CrossFit, you know,
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  I had some background in that.
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  And we came in and we
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  designed this course.
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  And the thought process was
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  to take the level one
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  proportions of movement to
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  nutrition and invert that.
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  so what you see at our
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  course is you see most of
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  it is nutrition and you
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  have a single lecture
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  that's based in movement
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  and what the intention here
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  is is to is to elevate the
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  trainer that's that's what
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  we we want to do we want to
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  take everything that you
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  know from your your level
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  one and greg's kernel and
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  the level two and how to
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  coach movement in the in the class and
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  And realizing too,
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  that there hasn't been a
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  lot of great offerings in
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  terms of nutrition in the space.
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  CrossFit offers their one
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  day nutrition course now.
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  And Jocelyn, I'm good friends with Jocelyn,
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  so I know her.
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  She's amazing.
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  She's she's extremely knowledgeable.
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  And we've had many
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  conversations over
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  breakfast about nutrition.
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  She's she's a killer.
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  But CrossFit's CrossFit's
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  come and said that this
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  course is this one single
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  day course is more for the athletes,
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  more geared for the athlete
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  of of how to practice
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  nutrition on your own.
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  and and what we intend our
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  course to be is is to give
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  the trainer a little more
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  more knowledge so they can
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  elevate their coaching game
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  bring you know more
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  background to their clients
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  and then also connect uh
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  connect the pieces from the
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  coach in the gym to the to
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  the medical professional um
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  you know they you know a
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  lot of people don't like
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  the idea of getting into
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  the weeds with a lot of the science but
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  At the end of the day,
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  knowledge gives you
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  confidence to deliver
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  things in a layman's in layman's terms.
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  Right.
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  One of the things that I like to say is,
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  you know,
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  what's the difference between
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  Greg Glassman saying off
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  the carbs and off the couch and
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  some homeless guy reading it
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  off a bumper sticker.
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  The words are the same
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  coming out of their mouth.
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  But the reason that you are
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  convinced that you should
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  follow Greg when he says it
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  is because he knows what
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  the hell he's talking about.
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  And he knows all the science
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  and the background behind it.
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  So the intention of the
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  seminar is to bring those
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  elements to the current
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  level of the trainer and
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  then elevate their game and
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  try to get them on par with
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  more of those medical professionals.
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  So if...
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  When I took the L-one in two
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  thousand fifteen,
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  it was the suggested
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  nutrition method was the zone.
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  When I took it in twenty twenty,
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  it varied from that and
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  gave a list of options that
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  were a possibility and train to live.
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  Ask this question and it's
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  perfect for this piece.
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  What principles are the
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  nutrition lectures founded
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  upon in the new foundations
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  course of Netflix?
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  yeah that's a great question
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  so will we teach nutrition
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  wise is uh and I put that
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  up in in the recent post
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  that got that got a lot of
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  heat in on the medfix
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  instagram page they
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  reposted one of my tweets
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  and I had the our protocol
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  in there so you can go back
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  and check that it's uh it's
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  written down but you know
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  definitively what we recommend is
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  a diet that supports
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  metabolic flexibility and exercise,
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  but not body fat.
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  So you,
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  you would have heard that you
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  notice an update in there, right?
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  So supporting exercise, but not body fat.
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  You probably heard of this before.
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  You know,
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  it's the second sentence in
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  Greg's world-class fitness
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  in a hundred words,
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  but the metabolic flexibility piece is,
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  is something that a lot of
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  scientists are paying attention to now.
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  And it's, it's partly determinant of, of,
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  of your fitness levels,
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  your potential fitness levels,
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  but it's also largely
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  determinant of your health.
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  And what that is,
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  is the ability to flick
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  between both fat and
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  carbohydrates as a fuel source.
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  So if you're metabolically inflexible,
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  then you're someone who
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  only has the ability to
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  utilize one of those things
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  as a fuel source.
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  Now,
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  it's very rare that someone gets to
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  the point where they can
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  only exclusively use fat.
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  think that there are some
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  scientists out there that
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  are trying to see what that
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  looks like um you know tim
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  noakes might be one of them
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  tim noakes if you've ever
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  uh read some of his stuff
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  on uh hypernutrient
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  encephalopathy when greg
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  was starting to push that
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  you know hyper hydration
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  stuff back in the day and
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  tim noakes was sort of at
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  the forefront of that he's
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  doing great uh high fat diet research but
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  Most people in society are
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  exclusively eating high carb diets.
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  And what ends up happening,
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  especially if it's high in sugar,
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  is you become metabolically
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  inflexible and reliant on
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  the carbohydrate.
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  And so what we're saying is
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  that a healthy metabolism,
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  one that lends itself to
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  both longevity and work capacity, right,
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  volume under the curve,
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  the way that Greg Glassman defined health,
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  is that metabolic
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  flexibility is one of those
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  things that you want to be
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  able to achieve, to flick back and forth.
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  And on top of that,
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  fuel yourself to fuel your activity.
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  And then on top of that,
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  not so much that you have
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  an accumulation of fat.
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  Practically,
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  that protocol looks like a high fat,
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  moderate protein,
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  low carb diet from a
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  macronutrient standpoint.
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  And that can be,
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  those are broad buckets that you can fill
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  and customize according to your results.
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  And then practically,
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  it looks a lot like what
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  Greg originally said in the
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  first sentence of World
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  Class Fitness in a Hundred
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  Words with some small, small updates.
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  So we got eat meat and vegetables,
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  nuts and seeds, some starch, little fruit,
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  no sugar, and no seed oil.
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  So we flipped the starch and
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  the fruit and we added the seed oils,
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  the no seed oils.
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  And so,
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  The starch and the fruit was switched.
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  Actually,
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  it was switched while Greg was at
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  CrossFit.
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  He had said that and come out and said it.
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  I believe it was twenty nineteen,
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  twenty twenty.
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  I'm not one hundred percent sure.
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  Maybe a year before he left.
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  But
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  The reason that he had come
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  out and said that,
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  we didn't end up switching it officially,
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  but there were a couple
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  posters printed with that updated version,
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  actually.
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  If you root back through the old images,
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  you might be able to find it.
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  But it's for a couple reasons.
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  Dr. Richard Johnson,
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  he's a specialist in fructose,
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  and a lot of his research
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  had to do with that switch.
• 17:21
  But Robert Lustig, actually, he's a...
• 17:25
  He's a pediatrician.
• 17:26
  He's kind of doing the
• 17:27
  rounds on the scientific podcasts.
• 17:29
  And he was on Humorman.
• 17:31
  He's considered a fructose expert.
• 17:33
  And he conducted a
• 17:35
  compelling experiment where he controlled,
• 17:39
  you know,
• 17:39
  when you're in pediatrics and
• 17:41
  you have people in the
• 17:42
  hospital and you're treating them,
• 17:44
  you've got great
• 17:45
  environments to control
• 17:46
  their food intake.
• 17:47
  And so he had access to this
• 17:49
  with a smaller group of children.
• 17:51
  And he had one group
• 17:55
  consume junk food that had sugar in it.
• 18:00
  So it had fructose and glucose.
• 18:03
  And then he had another
• 18:04
  group consume junk food, also junk food,
• 18:07
  what you'd consider like
• 18:08
  something from something
• 18:10
  from the corner store, like, you know,
• 18:13
  I think Pringles,
• 18:14
  but without the fructose.
• 18:17
  Right.
• 18:17
  So high starch, junk food, fructose free.
• 18:20
  So like Pringles, chips,
• 18:22
  these kinds of things, no sugar added.
• 18:26
  And even though they were
• 18:27
  both consuming junk food,
• 18:28
  the group that had less fructose
• 18:32
  improved their metabolic markers.
• 18:34
  They ended up with like less fatty liver,
• 18:36
  less ectopic fat,
• 18:38
  their blood markers started to improve.
• 18:40
  So this was compelling
• 18:41
  enough for Greg that like, okay,
• 18:42
  let's make this switch.
• 18:43
  Now, you know,
• 18:44
  people like to overthink it
• 18:45
  and they're like, oh,
• 18:45
  does that mean fruit's bad?
• 18:46
  And it's like, no, it's not the case,
• 18:48
  right?
• 18:49
  It's just compelling enough
• 18:50
  to make that small switch,
• 18:51
  but the proportions are, you know,
• 18:54
  are relative to one another
• 18:55
  in your total diet intake.
• 18:58
  The seed oils were actually
• 19:01
  talked a lot about by Greg originally,
• 19:05
  and they're actually
• 19:06
  embedded into the Level I
• 19:08
  curriculum in that nutrition lecture.
• 19:10
  I don't know if you remember, Scott.
• 19:11
  Do you remember when they
• 19:12
  talked about seed oils and
• 19:13
  industrial oils and the
• 19:15
  thought behind adding
• 19:16
  omega-threes into the diet?
• 19:20
  I definitely remember the
• 19:20
  omega-threes being the benefit.
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:27
  So but the actual seed oil part, I don't.
• 19:30
  Yeah.
• 19:31
  So the reason that, you know, CrossFit,
• 19:35
  the CrossFit level one
• 19:36
  recommends adding omega
• 19:39
  three supplement as the
• 19:41
  only supplement to add into
• 19:43
  the diet is is because of
• 19:46
  the excessive amount of
• 19:47
  seed oils in in the
• 19:49
  standard American diet.
• 19:51
  And so Dr. Barry Sears
• 19:54
  talks a lot about this.
• 19:55
  His,
• 19:55
  his research has a lot to do with the
• 19:56
  costanoids and a costanoids are like,
• 19:59
  are the, so the precursors of, uh,
• 20:02
  or sorry, a costanides are,
• 20:04
  are essentially what the, uh,
• 20:06
  omega six and omega three
• 20:07
  gets turned into in the body.
• 20:08
  And they,
• 20:09
  they support either inflammation or anti
• 20:12
  inflammatory properties in the body.
• 20:14
  And you need a balance of those things,
• 20:15
  right?
• 20:15
  Like inflammation is good.
• 20:18
  You know, in certain instances, it's bad.
• 20:19
  In other instances,
• 20:20
  you don't you never want
• 20:20
  chronic inflammation.
• 20:22
  And so the two essential
• 20:23
  fatty acids that we that we
• 20:25
  ingest are omega six and omega three.
• 20:28
  They're the only two
• 20:29
  essential fatty acids that
• 20:30
  the human body needs.
• 20:31
  They're polyunsaturated fatty acids.
• 20:33
  And but you only need them in very,
• 20:35
  very small amounts.
• 20:36
  You don't need a whole lot of them.
• 20:37
  And they support, you know, immune system,
• 20:39
  tons of different function.
• 20:40
  They get they embed
• 20:41
  themselves into the
• 20:42
  membranes of your cells and, you know,
• 20:44
  make them squishy.
• 20:45
  And, you know, so a balance is needed,
• 20:47
  but small amounts.
• 20:48
  Now,
• 20:49
  seeds and nuts are naturally high in
• 20:52
  omega six.
• 20:54
  It's an essential fatty acid.
• 20:56
  But the problem is that.
• 20:58
  The omega-six is one of
• 21:00
  these pro-inflammatory molecules.
• 21:02
  And so Dr. Barry Sears from The Zone,
• 21:05
  he talked about this.
• 21:07
  And he started to see, and we all see it,
• 21:10
  and it's evident.
• 21:10
  You can look up the stats anywhere.
• 21:12
  It's like we consume a ratio
• 21:15
  of about twenty to one
• 21:16
  omega-six to omega-three in
• 21:18
  a standard American diet
• 21:21
  where we want it closer to two to one.
• 21:22
  So it's like we want a ten
• 21:23
  times reduction in that.
• 21:26
  So because omega-six are so hard to avoid,
• 21:29
  the recommendation that Dr.
• 21:30
  Barry Sears and eventually
• 21:32
  CrossFit came up with is
• 21:33
  let's add a supplement into
• 21:35
  the equation there.
• 21:37
  Now,
• 21:38
  why we don't recommend a supplement
• 21:42
  and why we say no seed oils
• 21:45
  is actually because by
• 21:46
  adding the supplement in
• 21:47
  and not focusing on the
• 21:48
  reduction of the
• 21:49
  polyunsaturated fatty acids
• 21:51
  is that this actually tends
• 21:52
  to be a problem.
• 21:54
  So there are many
• 21:57
  experiments out there that
• 21:59
  talk about or show the
• 22:02
  difference between the
• 22:04
  chemical structure in a
• 22:05
  polyunsaturated fatty acid
• 22:07
  and a saturated fatty acid.
• 22:10
  The polyunsaturated fatty
• 22:11
  acid has many double bonds
• 22:14
  between the carbons.
• 22:15
  You can think of a fatty
• 22:16
  acid as a carbon chain, right,
• 22:19
  a long carbon chain.
• 22:21
  Sixteen to eighteen carbons
• 22:22
  is like the average and a
• 22:23
  saturated fat has single
• 22:24
  double bonds all the way down the chain.
• 22:28
  And so it's saturated
• 22:28
  because all of those areas
• 22:30
  around are saturated with hydrogen.
• 22:32
  All the potential areas that
• 22:34
  could be occupied by
• 22:35
  hydrogen is occupied.
• 22:37
  Polyunsaturated fatty acid
• 22:38
  has many double bonds
• 22:41
  between the carbons.
• 22:42
  So there are less hydrogen.
• 22:44
  So it's unsaturated.
• 22:45
  Right.
• 22:45
  So that's kind of the logic
• 22:46
  behind the nomenclature.
• 22:47
  But
• 22:49
  There's studies that show
• 22:50
  that this type of fatty acid leads to, uh,
• 22:56
  less satiation,
• 22:58
  meaning you feel more
• 23:00
  hungry after eating it.
• 23:02
  And there's studies that
• 23:03
  have been shown that let's say,
• 23:06
  and this is all the, the, you know,
• 23:07
  the hype behind beef tallow
• 23:09
  and getting rid of the seed
• 23:10
  oils and the diet there's
• 23:11
  studies have been shown that, that
• 23:13
  people that eat French fries
• 23:15
  with seed oil versus beef
• 23:17
  tallow end up eating less
• 23:20
  of the fries with beef tallow.
• 23:23
  Just because that saturated
• 23:24
  fat is not more filling,
• 23:27
  like it doesn't fill up
• 23:28
  your stomach physically.
• 23:30
  It has to do with the
• 23:31
  chemical breakdown once the
• 23:33
  fatty acid gets into the
• 23:35
  cell and is oxidized and
• 23:38
  turned into energy for the cell.
• 23:39
  And all of this mechanism we
• 23:41
  get into in the course itself.
• 23:43
  So we talk specifically
• 23:45
  about how those fatty acids
• 23:47
  get broken down.
• 23:49
  And then we tie that into the mechanism,
• 23:51
  which is really
• 23:52
  interestingly builds on
• 23:55
  something else in the level
• 23:57
  one nutrition lecture that we talk about.
• 23:59
  We point to Norman Kaplan in
• 24:03
  nineteen eighty nine.
• 24:05
  He published a journal in
• 24:07
  the Archives of Internal
• 24:08
  Medicine called The Deadly Quartet.
• 24:10
  And this is a this is a
• 24:12
  journal article that Greg
• 24:13
  has carried around with him
• 24:14
  since he since he first
• 24:16
  opened his gym is like in
• 24:18
  the early two thousands.
• 24:20
  And it's embedded into the
• 24:21
  level one curriculum.
• 24:24
  And basically what Norman
• 24:25
  Kaplan found is before he
• 24:27
  could even know the mechanism,
• 24:29
  he found that the deadly quartet,
• 24:31
  which is hyper triglyceridemia,
• 24:34
  hypertension and glucose intolerance,
• 24:35
  which is essentially just hyperglycemia,
• 24:38
  Those things were caused by
• 24:41
  hyperinsulinemia by way of
• 24:43
  upper body obesity.
• 24:45
  And he'd just seen this
• 24:45
  clinically and he observed
• 24:47
  the cause through operative mechanism,
• 24:51
  but he didn't understand
• 24:52
  what was happening inside the cell.
• 24:54
  And now we know what's
• 24:56
  happening inside the cell.
• 24:57
  And so we explain that
• 24:59
  mechanism and build on what
• 25:01
  we already know.
• 25:02
  I'm going to ask you a
• 25:03
  couple questions just in
• 25:04
  layman's terms totally here
• 25:06
  like like avoid seed oils
• 25:09
  what does that mean to me
• 25:10
  the person trying to eat
• 25:12
  healthy does that mean like
• 25:14
  don't eat almonds anymore
• 25:17
  or does that mean like
• 25:19
  sesame seed oil don't use
• 25:21
  that in my cooking or like
• 25:23
  or is it just natural in other foods
• 25:26
  Yeah, that's a great question.
• 25:28
  Don't use the seed oils,
• 25:29
  vegetable oils in your cooking.
• 25:30
  Here's what I tell people.
• 25:31
  Hey,
• 25:32
  if you can squeeze the oil out of
• 25:34
  something with your hand,
• 25:35
  then it's probably an oil
• 25:37
  you should eat and use.
• 25:39
  If you look at the thing, the food,
• 25:41
  and you're like,
• 25:41
  how can you possibly get oil out of this?
• 25:45
  It's probably likely a whole
• 25:47
  bunch of chemicals are
• 25:48
  needed to extract and
• 25:49
  concentrate that oil.
• 25:51
  And it's also likely that
• 25:52
  the omega-six and all these
• 25:54
  other things that are
• 25:55
  contained in there are
• 25:56
  going to be highly
• 25:56
  concentrated when you ingest it.
• 25:58
  So it's like, you know,
• 26:00
  the dose makes the poison, right?
• 26:01
  This is an essential
• 26:02
  omega-six essential fatty acid,
• 26:04
  but overdoing it is obviously a problem.
• 26:08
  But the beginning of
• 26:09
  world-class fitness in a
• 26:10
  hundred words is eat nuts and seeds.
• 26:12
  Totally.
• 26:13
  So this is a, and you know, this,
• 26:17
  this goes back to eating a natural diet,
• 26:20
  right?
• 26:20
  Eating a natural diet,
• 26:21
  eating foods in their natural form.
• 26:22
  So obviously to some degree to,
• 26:25
  to eat food that tastes good,
• 26:26
  we have to we,
• 26:29
  we have to manipulate it or
• 26:32
  process it to a degree, right?
• 26:33
  Like
• 26:35
  Cooking my steak on a
• 26:36
  barbecue is a type of processing.
• 26:39
  But what's interesting about
• 26:41
  the nuts and seeds is that,
• 26:44
  and Dr. Zoe Harcombe,
• 26:46
  I don't know if you've heard of her,
• 26:47
  but she says that she's one
• 26:50
  of the mess birds, right?
• 26:52
  From Greg's entourage back in the day.
• 26:55
  And she's Welsh and she's a dietician.
• 27:00
  she says that nuts and seeds
• 27:01
  are moreish it's like you
• 27:02
  always want more right and
• 27:05
  it's because of the it's
• 27:06
  because the fat and the
• 27:07
  carbohydrate that
• 27:08
  combination is tasty but
• 27:09
  then you throw like salt in
• 27:11
  the mix and flavoring and
• 27:12
  then you're you're really
• 27:13
  in trouble right so I
• 27:16
  always tell people with
• 27:16
  that like probably get the
• 27:18
  the nuts and seeds that
• 27:20
  aren't salted that's
• 27:22
  probably in their natural
• 27:23
  form and then also to stop
• 27:26
  you from eating more at
• 27:27
  that point too maybe
• 27:29
  maybe buy them with the shells on, right?
• 27:34
  So the more,
• 27:36
  that's kind of the answer for
• 27:37
  me in simple terms is like, you know,
• 27:39
  if you find you're overeating something,
• 27:41
  it's like start to question
• 27:42
  whether that's actually how
• 27:43
  it's found in nature.
• 27:44
  And then you could probably
• 27:45
  find the answer of why typically,
• 27:49
  you know,
• 27:49
  an animal or a human might not
• 27:52
  want to be eating that
• 27:53
  thing in high and vast amounts, right?
• 27:57
  So now,
• 27:58
  because a lot of what you're
• 28:00
  telling me is based on what
• 28:02
  Greg did in CrossFit for
• 28:04
  twenty five years or twenty years,
• 28:05
  whatever it was that he owned,
• 28:07
  started known the company.
• 28:10
  Why is it why is it a bad
• 28:12
  thing or why is it
• 28:14
  important to get the
• 28:15
  message that you're not
• 28:16
  competing with CrossFit?
• 28:20
  It's important because it
• 28:21
  completely builds on it.
• 28:23
  It completely builds on it.
• 28:27
  And it's important to get
• 28:28
  that message out because
• 28:29
  there's a lot of trainers.
• 28:31
  I've certainly found a benefit myself.
• 28:32
  I know everyone you,
• 28:34
  we've only run one seminar,
• 28:35
  but everyone who came to Rogue,
• 28:37
  Ohio and went through the
• 28:39
  seminar found it very
• 28:45
  enlightening and could
• 28:47
  immediately start to see
• 28:48
  the benefit of how that's
• 28:49
  going to make them a better trainer.
• 28:52
  I mean, listen, in any profession,
• 28:55
  you're either
• 28:56
  You're either improving your
• 28:58
  knowledge and getting better,
• 28:59
  being stagnant and okay
• 29:01
  with where you are now,
• 29:02
  or you're going backwards.
• 29:05
  And I don't think that
• 29:06
  anyone in any trainer,
• 29:10
  any coach inside or outside
• 29:11
  of the CrossFit world
• 29:13
  believes that being okay
• 29:17
  with the status quo and
• 29:18
  their current level of
• 29:19
  knowledge is going to make
• 29:21
  them a better or a higher
• 29:23
  level of a professional.
• 29:25
  everything that you do in
• 29:27
  action starts with your
• 29:29
  knowledge and so what we're
• 29:31
  what we're simply trying to
• 29:32
  do is we're trying to give
• 29:33
  trainers and coaches an
• 29:35
  opportunity to to elevate
• 29:37
  their game to to bring a
• 29:41
  higher level of of
• 29:43
  professionalism to the
• 29:44
  coach and to give them the
• 29:47
  confidence right knowledge
• 29:49
  is confidence and there's a
• 29:51
  lot of people out there that
• 29:53
  can benefit from, you know,
• 29:55
  the the world's the cure to
• 29:57
  the world's most vexing problem.
• 29:59
  But again,
• 30:02
  Many people,
• 30:02
  even outside of the CrossFit world,
• 30:04
  hold the cure to the
• 30:05
  world's most vexing problem, right?
• 30:06
  All you have to do is lower
• 30:07
  the carbs and start moving.
• 30:09
  This is not a hard thing.
• 30:10
  It's not a hard thing to comprehend.
• 30:12
  But again,
• 30:13
  what's the difference between
• 30:15
  the trainer who the doctor
• 30:19
  will refer their patient to or say, hey,
• 30:22
  I know this trainer down the street.
• 30:23
  They're incredible because
• 30:25
  I've heard them speak on
• 30:26
  these topics and they're
• 30:27
  going to take care of you
• 30:28
  versus the person who just
• 30:31
  you know, might believe in this stuff,
• 30:32
  but they took a personal
• 30:34
  training certificate online, right?
• 30:38
  That's a huge chasm in
• 30:39
  between those two individuals.
• 30:41
  And although the personal
• 30:43
  trainer who gets their cert
• 30:45
  online is saying the right things,
• 30:49
  there's a level of trust
• 30:50
  that needs to be built,
• 30:52
  not just between the medical professional,
• 30:54
  but even the client, right?
• 30:55
  There's a, to a degree,
• 30:57
  people who are sick,
• 30:58
  who are taking care of themselves and
• 31:01
  They go to the doctor at a
• 31:03
  higher cadence than someone
• 31:05
  who's not suffering from an ailment.
• 31:07
  They're in tune with their bodies,
• 31:08
  they're in tune with their needs,
• 31:10
  and they're highly cautious
• 31:11
  of what it is that they're
• 31:14
  doing to their bodies and
• 31:15
  who they're engaging with
• 31:16
  to get them to a healthy place.
• 31:18
  They're going to have a lot of questions.
• 31:19
  And if you can't gain their
• 31:20
  trust with what it is that
• 31:22
  you're going to take them through,
• 31:24
  they might have technical
• 31:25
  questions that their doctor
• 31:27
  asked them to ask you.
• 31:28
  Right.
• 31:30
  I've had this I've had this
• 31:31
  happen to me on several occasions.
• 31:33
  And so this is this is really,
• 31:35
  really important stuff to me.
• 31:37
  If if you want to, as a coach,
• 31:41
  help a population and a
• 31:42
  demographic that frankly
• 31:44
  makes up over half of North
• 31:47
  America's population.
• 31:50
  So I don't disagree with you
• 31:52
  that it is the world's most
• 31:54
  vexing problem,
• 31:56
  but a lot of people are
• 31:57
  hearing the same words that
• 31:58
  they heard when they took their L-I,
• 32:01
  right?
• 32:03
  And so there's this idea that it's –
• 32:07
  Greg is just kind of putting
• 32:10
  all of his stuff back out
• 32:11
  there in a new package.
• 32:13
  But it's all saying the same thing.
• 32:15
  Now,
• 32:15
  he does say that MedFix is like the
• 32:18
  post-secondary education to
• 32:21
  going to college.
• 32:22
  So the L-I would be going to,
• 32:25
  and I think he used Utah
• 32:26
  State as an example,
• 32:27
  and then Johns Hopkins for
• 32:30
  your med degree.
• 32:31
  Doesn't mean the biology you
• 32:33
  got at Utah State is bad.
• 32:35
  just means that you're
• 32:36
  expanding your knowledge at
• 32:38
  that postgraduate degree.
• 32:40
  And then, of course,
• 32:41
  you use the cream on the
• 32:42
  cake analogy that the cake
• 32:44
  is everything we've known
• 32:45
  for the last twenty years.
• 32:47
  He's just putting the cream on top.
• 32:49
  Of course.
• 32:51
  Of course,
• 32:52
  like I have my degrees in biology,
• 32:55
  my my degrees in biology.
• 32:58
  And.
• 32:59
  You know,
• 33:00
  if I if I had gone to do a master's,
• 33:03
  then.
• 33:04
  I'm going to use the
• 33:05
  information that I learned
• 33:07
  with the biology degree and
• 33:09
  everything that I build on top of that,
• 33:11
  it's still going to be
• 33:12
  consistent with that original material.
• 33:14
  Just because I go and get more education,
• 33:16
  it doesn't mean that I
• 33:17
  totally negate the idea of
• 33:19
  what a cell is and the
• 33:22
  organelles contained in it.
• 33:24
  That wouldn't make any sense.
• 33:25
  It's continually building.
• 33:31
  To think that...
• 33:33
  to think that a single
• 33:35
  course is all you're ever going to need.
• 33:37
  And CrossFit has always put
• 33:42
  out and supported continuing education.
• 33:45
  I'm a CrossFit level four coach.
• 33:48
  And to maintain my credential,
• 33:50
  I have to do continuing education.
• 33:53
  That's something that CrossFit promotes.
• 33:54
  And they encourage you to go
• 33:55
  out and do other courses,
• 33:56
  not just the ones that they host.
• 33:58
  Because they realize that
• 34:00
  there is tons of other
• 34:02
  information out there.
• 34:03
  Even though CrossFit teaches
• 34:04
  you how to hold a barbell,
• 34:05
  they teach you how to do a snatch,
• 34:07
  they teach you how to do a
• 34:07
  kettlebell swing,
• 34:08
  they teach you how to do a squat,
• 34:09
  teach you all these things,
• 34:10
  but they don't say, don't go to...
• 34:13
  Don't go to Westside Barbell
• 34:15
  because they don't know.
• 34:15
  They're just copying us.
• 34:17
  They know how to squat.
• 34:18
  You already know how to
• 34:19
  squat at the level one.
• 34:19
  You don't need to know how
• 34:21
  to squat from Louie Simmons
• 34:22
  or you don't know.
• 34:24
  You know,
• 34:24
  we teach you how to snatch at the
• 34:25
  end of the level one.
• 34:26
  So you don't need to go to
• 34:29
  Dimitri Klokoff and learn
• 34:30
  his technique on how to snatch.
• 34:32
  No, it's all it's all good information.
• 34:34
  It's all building on on each other.
• 34:36
  The only difference is, is that, you know,
• 34:38
  Greg Glassman owns this company.
• 34:40
  And so obviously he's going
• 34:42
  to be building on his own methodology.
• 34:45
  Okay.
• 34:46
  So you,
• 34:46
  you freely admit that this is all
• 34:48
  based on everything we've known for.
• 34:50
  Twenty years.
• 34:51
  Yep.
• 34:52
  And a whole bunch of stuff,
• 34:53
  but it's a whole bunch of
• 34:54
  stuff that you never learned.
• 34:55
  Right.
• 34:55
  Exactly.
• 34:56
  That Emily and Bob are
• 34:57
  bringing a whole new element to the game.
• 35:00
  That's, that's extremely informative.
• 35:02
  And yeah,
• 35:04
  Like when I started learning
• 35:05
  about this stuff completely blew my mind.
• 35:07
  And you're talking like I've
• 35:08
  been I've been in this
• 35:09
  since I started training
• 35:11
  and in twenty ten.
• 35:15
  And, you know,
• 35:16
  so fifteen years of training,
• 35:18
  eight years on on seminar staff,
• 35:20
  two years at the CrossFit Games,
• 35:22
  affiliate ownership like it all.
• 35:25
  Right.
• 35:25
  And.
• 35:27
  you get into a place where you're like,
• 35:30
  man,
• 35:30
  this is all I really need because you
• 35:32
  see the results.
• 35:33
  And until you start reading
• 35:36
  a little bit more and
• 35:37
  learning a little bit more, you're like,
• 35:38
  oh my God, this is really mind blowing.
• 35:39
  So I'm excited about it for that reason.
• 35:43
  So I think one of the
• 35:43
  fundamental problems is,
• 35:45
  is we look at MedFix and
• 35:47
  we're trying to understand
• 35:48
  it to explain this like
• 35:50
  post-secondary level of
• 35:52
  what we've already known.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:54
  Takes a language that many
• 35:56
  of us don't understand.
• 36:00
  You know, I hear all the time,
• 36:01
  like there's been a concept or just,
• 36:03
  are you talking about the
• 36:04
  concept of a post-secondary
• 36:06
  education or just the
• 36:07
  actual science itself?
• 36:08
  The science and the vocabulary.
• 36:10
  Right.
• 36:11
  I'm seeing it in the chat.
• 36:12
  Like, like, man, I feel dumb or like,
• 36:14
  I don't understand.
• 36:15
  Can we get to some more layman's terms?
• 36:19
  Is there a way to like,
• 36:21
  because it's advanced
• 36:22
  beyond what we've known in
• 36:24
  CrossFit for so long, is there a way to,
• 36:27
  to,
• 36:28
  get it in a package that's
• 36:30
  easier to understand.
• 36:31
  Totally.
• 36:32
  And that's hopefully that's
• 36:33
  what the course provides.
• 36:34
  Hopefully that was,
• 36:35
  that was my goal with the course, right?
• 36:36
  Is,
• 36:36
  is to provide that to you in a package.
• 36:38
  It's easy to understand.
• 36:40
  You get time to digest it.
• 36:41
  We've got whiteboard drawings,
• 36:43
  like the flow of the course
• 36:45
  also includes tons of interaction.
• 36:48
  There's lots of breakout groups that, uh,
• 36:50
  you know, foster learning of, of the,
• 36:54
  the lecture preceding it.
• 36:56
  And, um,
• 36:59
  The other thing is to push
• 37:00
  people a little bit, right.
• 37:01
  To,
• 37:01
  to challenge themselves and to learn a
• 37:03
  little bit more, right.
• 37:03
  You, you, I mean,
• 37:06
  crossfitters are very
• 37:09
  accustomed to pushing
• 37:10
  themselves outside their comfort zone.
• 37:12
  Right.
• 37:13
  And, and so I would,
• 37:15
  I think that it would be an incomplete,
• 37:19
  uh,
• 37:19
  an incomplete approach if you did this
• 37:21
  with only your body and not your mind.
• 37:23
  Okay.
• 37:26
  So it's not designed to
• 37:28
  spoon feed it to you in the
• 37:30
  most digestible way.
• 37:31
  It's to talk about it in real terms,
• 37:33
  digest it down just enough
• 37:35
  that you can grasp onto it.
• 37:37
  but also enough that it's
• 37:40
  necessary and you want to learn more.
• 37:42
  Because like the level one,
• 37:44
  like the level two,
• 37:45
  two days is not enough to
• 37:46
  give you absolutely everything.
• 37:48
  And so we've designed an
• 37:53
  extension course that when
• 37:55
  you sign up for the foundations course,
• 37:56
  you get delivered this extension course
• 38:00
  virtually and it's almost
• 38:02
  like a little prep course
• 38:02
  but you have access to it
• 38:04
  for a full year after the
• 38:05
  course as well so you can
• 38:06
  go back and relearn and
• 38:07
  there's um there's primers
• 38:10
  but there's also extended
• 38:12
  information that you can do
• 38:13
  deeper dives in post course
• 38:15
  and it allows you to really
• 38:16
  take your time to absorb
• 38:17
  things um there's also uh
• 38:20
  there's also a weekly email
• 38:22
  that'll come out to
• 38:23
  everyone who's who's done
• 38:24
  the course uh so we're
• 38:26
  getting ready to launch
• 38:27
  that pretty soon the
• 38:29
  Oh, one will get it.
• 38:30
  We're about to go to Utah at
• 38:32
  Salt Lake City to do our
• 38:33
  our second seminar and
• 38:35
  hopefully by by the third seminar,
• 38:38
  we'll have those fifty two emails out.
• 38:41
  And you're going to get a
• 38:41
  follow up email to teach
• 38:44
  you how to brief some of
• 38:45
  this stuff to your class
• 38:46
  and talk about this stuff
• 38:47
  in more layman's terms, you know,
• 38:49
  in like in like three to
• 38:50
  five minutes as like a cool
• 38:52
  down talk or something like that.
• 38:54
  So that's the whole purpose of this, too,
• 38:57
  is to take these these
• 38:58
  technical concepts and to
• 38:59
  try to distill it down into
• 39:01
  layman's terms.
• 39:02
  But it's not but it's not to
• 39:04
  dumb it down so much that
• 39:05
  you get it right away.
• 39:07
  We want to push people the the
• 39:10
  to invest a little bit of
• 39:11
  time into learning it.
• 39:11
  But when you do invest time, like anything,
• 39:14
  like a squat or a thruster,
• 39:15
  when you invest the right amount of time,
• 39:16
  you're going to learn that, right?
• 39:19
  Okay.
• 39:20
  The one thing I do want to
• 39:21
  share with the...
• 39:23
  the audience is that you
• 39:25
  guys have developed a
• 39:26
  website that on the surface again,
• 39:29
  looks very much like the old CrossFit.
• 39:32
  But it has some enhancements
• 39:34
  to it that I think are,
• 39:36
  it's probably the thing
• 39:37
  that pulled me in the most
• 39:39
  initially when I was researching.
• 39:41
  And so I'm going to pull
• 39:42
  that up real quick.
• 39:44
  Yeah, totally.
• 39:45
  Let's check it out.
• 39:47
  And that is
• 39:49
  This is your, like,
• 39:50
  on the old CrossFit website,
• 39:52
  you would have daily workout,
• 39:54
  the workout of the day, right?
• 39:56
  But you guys have expanded
• 39:58
  that to a three-piece system for the day.
• 40:03
  Yeah, this is super cool.
• 40:04
  And it's not just the workout of the day.
• 40:06
  You have that,
• 40:07
  but it's not even the first
• 40:08
  thing that shows.
• 40:09
  No.
• 40:11
  And it's the three Bs, belly, body,
• 40:13
  and brain.
• 40:15
  And so the first thing is
• 40:16
  you have a recipe for
• 40:18
  people if they want an idea
• 40:20
  to cook dinner that fits
• 40:21
  within your nutrition ideology.
• 40:26
  And then you go to the body,
• 40:28
  and there we have the
• 40:30
  traditional CrossFit workout, Helen.
• 40:34
  And then you go to the brain,
• 40:36
  and it's actually almost
• 40:38
  like an assigned reading
• 40:39
  for the day to learn more
• 40:41
  about your overall health.
• 40:44
  Actually, I use this as an example.
• 40:47
  My wife and I were literally
• 40:48
  talking about statins last
• 40:50
  night because my mom is
• 40:52
  having issues since she's been put on one,
• 40:55
  and I wanted to go read this.
• 40:57
  Oh, there you go.
• 40:58
  Did you learn something?
• 41:01
  I'm not all the way through it yet because,
• 41:02
  again, I don't have a biology degree.
• 41:04
  Science was probably my weakest subject,
• 41:06
  but I do have the curiosity
• 41:08
  to try to learn it.
• 41:09
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 41:10
  And that's what counts, right?
• 41:11
  And that's what it's supposed to simulate.
• 41:13
  Even if you don't get to the mall,
• 41:14
  at least you're intrigued.
• 41:17
  Or maybe you see the
• 41:18
  headline and then something
• 41:19
  else piques your interest.
• 41:20
  You go back to it later, right?
• 41:22
  And it's enough for me to
• 41:22
  question why she's on it.
• 41:24
  Right.
• 41:25
  Right.
• 41:25
  I've learned enough of that as well.
• 41:28
  This is a really cool, the, this,
• 41:29
  so the daily fix here is really cool.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  The,
• 41:32
  like it's by design that the first
• 41:34
  thing you're gonna see is the food,
• 41:35
  because that's what we're
• 41:36
  saying at the seminars.
• 41:37
  It's the first line of
• 41:38
  defense and in making you healthier, we,
• 41:41
  you know, everyone.
• 41:44
  You always have a choice
• 41:45
  whether you're gonna exercise or not.
• 41:46
  You don't have a choice
• 41:47
  whether you're gonna eat or not.
• 41:49
  So this is gonna be the
• 41:51
  first thing that you can do
• 41:52
  to improve your health.
• 41:54
  And so we really, really emphasize that,
• 41:56
  not just here, but at the seminar.
• 41:57
  And then,
• 41:58
  so if MedFix affiliates are sort
• 42:01
  of a cool backend feature
• 42:03
  is obviously tons of
• 42:04
  affiliates do their own programming.
• 42:07
  For years I did, I love programming.
• 42:09
  I always love to do my own programming,
• 42:11
  but I'm actually doing this,
• 42:14
  because I find it convenient
• 42:16
  and I don't have the time
• 42:17
  anymore to do the
• 42:17
  programing for my my program at my gym.
• 42:22
  But you can embed this onto your website,
• 42:24
  this whole thing.
• 42:25
  You can grab the you can
• 42:27
  grab the the code and you
• 42:29
  can embed that straight
• 42:29
  into your website.
• 42:30
  So it populates just the way
• 42:32
  that you see it right here,
• 42:33
  right on your site.
• 42:34
  You can hide it.
• 42:34
  You can keep it on the forefront.
• 42:36
  You can you know, you can
• 42:38
  You can make it so that if you want,
• 42:40
  you can just screen grab it
• 42:42
  quick or just copy paste the text,
• 42:47
  modify things a little bit
• 42:48
  if you don't like the workout.
• 42:49
  So it's cool in that sense as well.
• 42:53
  Yeah, cool.
• 42:54
  And then you just hit the
• 42:55
  see more button like for the recipe.
• 42:58
  And there you get like the full recipe.
• 43:02
  That looks delicious, eh?
• 43:05
  So there's that.
• 43:07
  So most of these recipes are,
• 43:11
  most of them are ketogenic.
• 43:12
  Like they're really low carbohydrate,
• 43:14
  but you don't put keto in
• 43:17
  the title because anything
• 43:18
  with keto doesn't taste as good.
• 43:20
  Right.
• 43:23
  And then again, the same with body,
• 43:24
  you hit,
• 43:24
  see more and you get more
• 43:26
  information about the workout itself.
• 43:27
  Um, and then brain.
• 43:30
  Um, now what I did notice is like,
• 43:33
  as I was clicking through
• 43:34
  some of the brain stuff,
• 43:35
  a lot of them are old
• 43:36
  journal posts that Greg
• 43:38
  made back in the day.
• 43:39
  But this one here is from a third party.
• 43:42
  Yep.
• 43:42
  There's a lot of third party.
• 43:43
  Um, there's, there's a lot of original,
• 43:48
  original material, uh, that,
• 43:51
  has come out and is yet to come out.
• 43:53
  I don't know, do you remember Lon Kilgore?
• 43:57
  Lon Kilgore wrote a lot back
• 43:58
  in the early days for
• 44:00
  CrossFit and for Greg in
• 44:03
  the original journal.
• 44:04
  And he did a lot of stuff later on too.
• 44:07
  When Greg started,
• 44:09
  when Greg took control of the website in,
• 44:12
  in January,
• 44:13
  and he started posting more information
• 44:17
  regards to anatomy like
• 44:19
  basic anatomy of the body I
• 44:21
  don't know if you remember
• 44:21
  those those posts you
• 44:23
  remember when the workout
• 44:24
  the day was posted there
• 44:25
  would be here's the anatomy
• 44:27
  of like a hand and it would
• 44:29
  talk about the bones and
• 44:30
  then do you remember that
• 44:33
  So I started in two thousand eleven.
• 44:35
  So I'm a little bit late to
• 44:36
  the game of the twenty nine.
• 44:38
  No, twenty nineteen.
• 44:39
  Oh, nineteen.
• 44:40
  Yeah.
• 44:40
  When Greg when Greg says he
• 44:42
  commandeered the website,
• 44:44
  he started programing a little bit.
• 44:45
  Remember when every second
• 44:47
  day we saw some version of Cindy?
• 44:48
  Yeah.
• 44:50
  Yeah.
• 44:51
  And along with that came a
• 44:53
  whole bunch of anatomy
• 44:54
  posts and those anatomy posts,
• 44:58
  a lot of them were long Kilgore.
• 44:59
  And so Trish S was that the pig spine guy?
• 45:03
  the pig spine.
• 45:04
  I don't know.
• 45:05
  I don't know who the pig spine guy is,
• 45:06
  but it's possible.
• 45:08
  But,
• 45:09
  but Lon's doing a lot of writing for
• 45:10
  us too now.
• 45:11
  And he's,
• 45:12
  he's got an extensive background
• 45:14
  and he just turns out information,
• 45:16
  which is, which is great.
• 45:17
  But, you know,
• 45:18
  and a lot of the stuff behind the, the,
• 45:20
  you know,
• 45:20
  reposting Greg's original
• 45:21
  journal articles.
• 45:22
  And I know a lot of people are just like,
• 45:23
  Oh, it's CrossFit.
• 45:25
  It's just CrossFit.
• 45:26
  It's copycat, blah, blah, blah.
• 45:27
  I mean, it,
• 45:28
  Part of it's about the
• 45:29
  preservation of them.
• 45:30
  I mean,
• 45:31
  I know that when private equity
• 45:33
  took over CrossFit HQ,
• 45:36
  of a sudden it all
• 45:37
  disappeared and and you can
• 45:38
  still find it if you dig
• 45:39
  but the first thing that I
• 45:41
  did the first thing that I
• 45:42
  did when greg sold the
• 45:43
  company was I went to the
• 45:46
  old archives and I saved
• 45:48
  every single journal
• 45:50
  article and I have it on a
• 45:51
  hard drive every single one
• 45:53
  and so I'm I'm extremely
• 45:55
  pleased that um you know
• 45:57
  not just because I work for
• 45:58
  them now but I was
• 45:59
  extremely pleased to see
• 46:00
  that that you know greg had
• 46:03
  maintain ownership of his
• 46:04
  material and that he was
• 46:06
  able to maintain it and put
• 46:07
  it at the forefront on his
• 46:09
  website because it's so important.
• 46:10
  One of the things that I
• 46:14
  think sort of maintains
• 46:15
  that culture over time is
• 46:17
  the knowledge of the
• 46:18
  history and the original
• 46:20
  kernel and where that comes from.
• 46:21
  And again,
• 46:22
  we're reposting those things
• 46:25
  because they don't need changing.
• 46:27
  They don't need changing.
• 46:28
  They're amazing the way that they are.
• 46:30
  But what we do realize is that
• 46:32
  You know,
• 46:32
  new information comes out and we
• 46:34
  want to build on top of that.
• 46:35
  And, and although subtle,
• 46:38
  I think that they're
• 46:39
  significant and it's going
• 46:42
  to make for a really cool course and,
• 46:45
  and a lot of cool things to happen in the,
• 46:46
  in the community.
• 46:48
  And I do think that's an important point.
• 46:51
  These are all Greg's creations.
• 46:52
  And as a legacy,
• 46:55
  he'd love to preserve all
• 46:57
  of this information, right?
• 46:59
  And this gives him a way to
• 47:00
  do that in a way that he believes in.
• 47:03
  Because CrossFit's not for sale again.
• 47:06
  We don't know what that's
• 47:07
  going to mean for the
• 47:08
  future of any of this stuff,
• 47:09
  whether they're going to use it,
• 47:11
  throw it away, keep it, archive it.
• 47:13
  We don't know.
• 47:14
  So it's a nice thing that he...
• 47:18
  is going to have a
• 47:19
  repository for all of this
• 47:20
  information for us to
• 47:21
  access whenever we want
• 47:23
  absolutely quick question
• 47:24
  from train to live yeah use
• 47:27
  the course would it count
• 47:28
  for ceus with any other
• 47:30
  certifications so it is I
• 47:33
  believe it's fifteen
• 47:35
  hundred us dollars and the
• 47:38
  ceus uh and you can confirm
• 47:41
  that you maybe you can pull
• 47:42
  it up there scott go to the
• 47:43
  uh go to our if you go to
• 47:44
  metfix.org you could see it
• 47:46
  right there but um
• 47:49
  The CEUs, like if I was going to,
• 47:52
  if I was going to use the
• 47:53
  MedFix foundations course for, for CEUs,
• 47:55
  it's not pre-approved by CrossFit, maybe,
• 47:58
  maybe one day,
• 47:59
  but for their certifications.
• 48:01
  But if I was going to use
• 48:03
  that to keep my level four,
• 48:09
  did you go to MedFix.org?
• 48:13
  I'm on just a page in, I thought that,
• 48:21
  there you go scroll down
• 48:21
  there you go scroll down
• 48:22
  there you go scroll down uh
• 48:25
  you see the uh you see the
• 48:27
  uh you see the oh there's
• 48:28
  long kilgore there um go
• 48:33
  back up to the top um go
• 48:33
  back up to the top um go
• 48:34
  back up to the top are you
• 48:35
  at medfix.org or you have
• 48:36
  are you at medfix.org or
• 48:37
  you have are you at
• 48:38
  medfix.org or you have
• 48:38
  broken science.org uh
• 48:39
  broken broken science.org
• 48:39
  uh broken broken broken
• 48:40
  click click medfix there go
• 48:41
  down and click click medfix
• 48:42
  there go down and click
• 48:43
  click medfix there go down
• 48:43
  and click the the medfix
• 48:44
  logo just scroll down the
• 48:45
  the medfix logo just scroll
• 48:46
  down the the medfix logo
• 48:47
  just scroll down and click
• 48:47
  the big one and click the
• 48:48
  big one and click the big
• 48:48
  one yeah yeah yeah okay uh okay uh
• 48:50
  seminar calendar was that
• 48:52
  the click seminars.
• 48:53
  Okay.
• 48:55
  Should scroll down, scroll down.
• 49:00
  What if you click one,
• 49:03
  click one of those sign up.
• 49:04
  All right.
• 49:08
  Go down.
• 49:11
  You must be logged in.
• 49:12
  Oh,
• 49:13
  I'm pretty sure it's fifteen hundred
• 49:15
  bucks.
• 49:16
  Um, so
• 49:20
  CrossFit allows you to
• 49:21
  submit CEUs for any course.
• 49:24
  She's actually thinking NSCA.
• 49:25
  Yeah, most of these.
• 49:26
  I used to have a CSCS from the NSCA,
• 49:29
  so Certified Strength and
• 49:30
  Conditioning Coach.
• 49:31
  I used to be one of those.
• 49:32
  And usually they have forms
• 49:35
  that you can submit for CEUs.
• 49:38
  continuing education you
• 49:39
  just have to fill it out
• 49:41
  and uh if it's something
• 49:43
  that the course
• 49:44
  administrator needs to like
• 49:45
  sign off on or something
• 49:46
  like that then you can
• 49:47
  always just bring it to the
• 49:48
  course and we can sign that
• 49:49
  for you for sure or just
• 49:51
  you know send it by email
• 49:52
  and we'll have it done if
• 49:53
  it's gonna help you keep
• 49:54
  the keep the surf for sure
• 49:55
  yeah yeah typically it's
• 49:58
  like one ceu for one
• 50:01
  learning hour right like in
• 50:02
  person or something like that
• 50:06
  we're down to like the last
• 50:07
  ten minutes that I have for
• 50:08
  today and I and I did want
• 50:10
  to ask you a question about
• 50:11
  this that you just you just
• 50:12
  posted um it's it's going
• 50:15
  everywhere now I missed a
• 50:20
  button there we go um and
• 50:26
  so it is this little guy
• 50:29
  here there it is the old
• 50:32
  the fire bomb yeah so
• 50:37
  I knew I was having you on
• 50:38
  when this got posted.
• 50:40
  So I read through it very carefully.
• 50:41
  And then I thought when I,
• 50:44
  when I started CrossFit in,
• 50:46
  I learned nutrition from my
• 50:48
  affiliate owner.
• 50:49
  Yup.
• 50:51
  Um,
• 50:51
  and then I joined a second affiliate
• 50:52
  later in life and that
• 50:54
  affiliate owner also was
• 50:55
  very active in learning the nutrition.
• 50:59
  This compares a games athlete to, uh,
• 51:04
  guess a common average
• 51:06
  ordinary joe like me yeah
• 51:08
  yeah yeah totally and I
• 51:10
  never in my ten years of
• 51:12
  doing crossfit or eleven or
• 51:14
  twelve whatever it's been
• 51:16
  too long now um did I ever
• 51:19
  come look at what an
• 51:20
  athlete eats in a day and
• 51:22
  think that's the diet I need to follow
• 51:24
  Right.
• 51:25
  And you're the smart one.
• 51:26
  That's for sure.
• 51:28
  Yeah.
• 51:29
  Sorry.
• 51:30
  Go ahead, Scott.
• 51:30
  Do you think this is
• 51:31
  actually like a major
• 51:32
  problem going on in the
• 51:35
  current realm of CrossFit nutrition?
• 51:38
  Yeah, I do think it is.
• 51:39
  I think it's a problem.
• 51:42
  To be honest,
• 51:44
  I don't have a statistic
• 51:45
  because I didn't perform a study.
• 51:46
  I know there's some people
• 51:47
  in the comments that want
• 51:50
  me to cite some data,
• 51:52
  but this is all through
• 51:54
  observation from my experience.
• 51:58
  um yeah I think I mean I
• 51:59
  think greg would say the
• 52:01
  same thing he has said the
• 52:02
  same thing I mean the guy
• 52:04
  knew while he was still at
• 52:06
  the helm of crossfit that
• 52:07
  the games athletes were
• 52:08
  influencing heavily the
• 52:09
  community and he saw there
• 52:11
  was there were problems
• 52:11
  with it I think the issue
• 52:13
  with the why people got so
• 52:15
  inflamed in the in the
• 52:16
  posts in the comments
• 52:17
  section is because they're conflating
• 52:20
  what I'm talking about,
• 52:21
  which are the defined terms
• 52:22
  and the implementation of
• 52:25
  those methodologies within the community.
• 52:28
  So there's a difference
• 52:29
  between your perception of
• 52:30
  its implementation and the
• 52:32
  actual definition of these things.
• 52:35
  The point that I was trying
• 52:36
  to make is that CrossFit is
• 52:37
  defined as constantly
• 52:38
  varied functional movement
• 52:39
  performed at high intensity point.
• 52:42
  And nothing more than that.
• 52:44
  That's the definition.
• 52:45
  That's what we say at the level one.
• 52:46
  It's what Greg defined it as
• 52:48
  in those early days.
• 52:49
  And if you go back to that for a sec,
• 52:50
  Scott,
• 52:53
  and you just take at face value the
• 52:55
  definition of CrossFit,
• 52:57
  what do those words mean to you?
• 52:59
  What does that imply?
• 53:02
  I say it below, but...
• 53:03
  It's the workout.
• 53:04
  It's the workout.
• 53:05
  It's the workout, right?
• 53:06
  Exactly.
• 53:07
  The definition of CrossFit is the workout.
• 53:09
  And so when Greg made this,
• 53:11
  it was his intention to
• 53:12
  also teach people about the
• 53:16
  culture and the
• 53:16
  implementation in the right way, right?
• 53:20
  That was the intention,
• 53:21
  except the problem with
• 53:24
  that is that all the great
• 53:26
  coaches who understand how
• 53:29
  to implement it properly
• 53:30
  can't be everywhere all at once.
• 53:33
  So when you have a
• 53:34
  definition and you have a competition,
• 53:37
  a world famous competition
• 53:40
  that expresses CrossFit
• 53:43
  exclusively using this definition,
• 53:46
  nothing beyond that,
• 53:49
  then you have some missteps
• 53:51
  in its implementation.
• 53:54
  You have some missteps.
• 53:55
  It's inevitable.
• 53:57
  And that's from my opinion.
• 54:03
  know part of that is due to
• 54:05
  the fact that diet is not
• 54:07
  part of the definition you
• 54:08
  can say that some you can
• 54:10
  say that someone is doing
• 54:11
  crossfit if still if
• 54:13
  they're following an
• 54:14
  improper diet because
• 54:15
  they're still doing
• 54:16
  constantly varied
• 54:17
  functional movements at
• 54:17
  high intensity right so you
• 54:20
  get a bunch of people that
• 54:21
  do it right and they get
• 54:22
  healthy you get a bunch of
• 54:23
  people that do it wrong
• 54:24
  they're still doing
• 54:24
  crossfit I see it all the time
• 54:29
  And so the intention here
• 54:31
  was just to point in the
• 54:33
  direction that we're headed with MedFix.
• 54:36
  And the direction is to
• 54:40
  focus on diet first and to
• 54:42
  focus on the outcome, which is health,
• 54:45
  right?
• 54:45
  And that's what we're defining MedFix as,
• 54:48
  it's broad, right?
• 54:50
  It's a broad definition so
• 54:51
  that it can encompass many stimulus.
• 54:55
  as long as you're moving in
• 54:56
  the direction of health as
• 54:58
  Greg defined it.
• 55:00
  But that was the main
• 55:01
  difference that I wanted to
• 55:03
  outline and not in any way, shape or form,
• 55:06
  say that people in the
• 55:08
  community are all doing
• 55:09
  what Jason Hopper's doing.
• 55:11
  That's not true, that's not true.
• 55:12
  But to make a point,
• 55:13
  you have to sometimes show the extremes.
• 55:18
  Yeah, because I almost think that like,
• 55:21
  just to push back a little I
• 55:22
  think that the example
• 55:24
  actually upset a lot of
• 55:26
  people because for sure in
• 55:28
  my affiliates ninety
• 55:30
  percent of the people that
• 55:31
  come don't even know the
• 55:32
  crossfit games exist right
• 55:34
  right but but they also
• 55:37
  probably don't know how
• 55:39
  important nutrition is to
• 55:41
  their overall health yeah
• 55:43
  So while I do applaud the
• 55:46
  fact that you guys are
• 55:48
  emphasizing nutrition so much,
• 55:51
  and if it is the cream on
• 55:53
  the cake or the post-secondary education,
• 55:55
  I love that aspect completely.
• 55:58
  But these comparisons, I think,
• 56:01
  really hit the base hard.
• 56:03
  And you know,
• 56:04
  you've been a CrossFitter forever, right?
• 56:06
  The base of CrossFit –
• 56:09
  are very protective of their
• 56:11
  thing well it hit the base
• 56:13
  heart of those who are in
• 56:14
  the comments right but
• 56:17
  everyone outside the
• 56:17
  comments you know like
• 56:19
  there's a lot of people
• 56:20
  that agree with me that
• 56:21
  aren't necessarily getting
• 56:22
  dirty in the comments but
• 56:24
  um you know but they're
• 56:25
  texting me on the side and
• 56:26
  and you know but I think
• 56:29
  that also people need to
• 56:30
  understand that they all
• 56:32
  have subjective everyone
• 56:33
  has a subjective interpretation of
• 56:37
  their CrossFit experience
• 56:38
  and also the way that it
• 56:40
  should or shouldn't be implemented.
• 56:42
  But that's the beauty of it.
• 56:44
  That's the beauty of this
• 56:45
  constantly very functional
• 56:46
  movement to high intensity stimulus.
• 56:48
  It's just a movement
• 56:49
  stimulus and you can
• 56:50
  implement it however the hell you want.
• 56:53
  I've traveled all over the world.
• 56:56
  I've been to plenty of boxes like yours.
• 56:58
  where they have no idea what
• 56:59
  the games are and they
• 57:00
  focus on nutrition.
• 57:01
  I've been to other boxes, Scott,
• 57:04
  that all they do is talk about the games.
• 57:06
  It's all they do.
• 57:07
  All they do is competition.
• 57:08
  And they've got and they've
• 57:09
  got a jar of gummies on the
• 57:11
  front desk to fuel their
• 57:13
  their double sessions.
• 57:16
  You know,
• 57:16
  I've been to gyms that are a mix
• 57:18
  where half the gym is is like yours.
• 57:20
  The other half is competition.
• 57:22
  And then people are
• 57:23
  oblivious to people who
• 57:25
  might be addicted to
• 57:26
  refined carbohydrates.
• 57:27
  And on the weekends, you know,
• 57:29
  boxes of donuts are lined
• 57:31
  up on the table and, you know,
• 57:34
  sugar is served along with
• 57:36
  the cream for the coffee.
• 57:37
  Right.
• 57:39
  So it's not as black and white.
• 57:44
  terms of its implementation
• 57:45
  as people might think it's
• 57:47
  very very blended and our
• 57:50
  intention is to you know is
• 57:53
  to lift up those who are
• 57:54
  doing it right currently
• 57:56
  and also hopefully teach
• 57:59
  the people who aren't the
• 58:00
  reasons why they might want
• 58:02
  to reconsider how they
• 58:03
  implement the program
• 58:06
  So Jenny from Dense Updates
• 58:09
  is in the chat.
• 58:09
  Hey, Jenny.
• 58:11
  And it is, as a seminar staff member,
• 58:14
  when you saw all this going down,
• 58:16
  did you call it out to the
• 58:17
  affiliate owners or the people and say,
• 58:20
  what are you doing?
• 58:21
  Like, this is for... Yeah.
• 58:24
  You did.
• 58:25
  Yeah, all the time.
• 58:26
  Constantly.
• 58:27
  Constantly.
• 58:30
  Whether it's at a seminar,
• 58:31
  whether it's at a seminar,
• 58:32
  calling people out, you know,
• 58:35
  maybe like...
• 58:36
  by like a second degree
• 58:37
  because someone has a
• 58:38
  question specifically about
• 58:40
  something they experienced
• 58:42
  at a gym and you're trying
• 58:44
  to lift them up and give
• 58:45
  them the courage to go back
• 58:48
  to their gyms and approach
• 58:51
  things in the right way
• 58:52
  because they've all seen a
• 58:54
  certain situation that they
• 58:55
  know is not right or now
• 58:56
  they're learning is not
• 58:57
  right because they came to
• 58:58
  the seminar or even firsthand,
• 59:00
  whether it's me as like a coach
• 59:03
  Um, whether it's me as, uh, you know, on a,
• 59:06
  on a team with, as you know,
• 59:08
  as a games athlete on a team, you know,
• 59:10
  with, with a teammate who all,
• 59:11
  all they do is, is take gummy bears and,
• 59:14
  um, and, uh, what do you call it?
• 59:18
  Like, uh, gummy worms and all,
• 59:20
  all these little candies,
• 59:21
  like they show up with a
• 59:21
  bag of candies to fuel their workout.
• 59:24
  What are you doing?
• 59:26
  What are you doing?
• 59:27
  Right.
• 59:27
  This is a, it's not, it's not uncommon.
• 59:29
  It's I'm not surprised to
• 59:30
  see that stuff anymore.
• 59:32
  I want to hit with two more.
• 59:33
  I want to answer Jody's question.
• 59:35
  It's hard for me to believe
• 59:36
  that our CrossFit box is
• 59:37
  completely unaware of the games.
• 59:38
  Come on.
• 59:39
  I went to Christy Aramo O'Connell's gym,
• 59:42
  and I am telling you,
• 59:43
  fifty percent of that gym
• 59:45
  did not even know about the games.
• 59:46
  At Christy Aramo's gym?
• 59:47
  Yes.
• 59:48
  No way.
• 59:49
  Only if by chance she was
• 59:52
  going and they would watch her.
• 59:54
  Honestly,
• 59:55
  there are people that just come
• 59:56
  in for their hour and they leave.
• 59:58
  people there's first there's
• 59:59
  certainly people who who
• 1:00:00
  are oblivious to it yeah
• 1:00:02
  absolutely um but yeah it's
• 1:00:04
  a big mix and then my other
• 1:00:05
  gym my first gym that I
• 1:00:06
  joined there was no games
• 1:00:08
  athlete there they had no
• 1:00:10
  they had no idea yeah in
• 1:00:11
  the open that's their only
• 1:00:13
  connection to the games at all totally um
• 1:00:16
  And then Larry Young makes a great point.
• 1:00:18
  And I think this is where,
• 1:00:20
  where MedFix does come into play.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Some of the diet coaches
• 1:00:23
  basically regurgitate the same stuff.
• 1:00:26
  One gram of protein per lean mass,
• 1:00:28
  et cetera.
• 1:00:29
  I'm late to this at work,
• 1:00:30
  but my experience, some,
• 1:00:33
  it just isn't true and why
• 1:00:34
  results are mediocre.
• 1:00:35
  And what did you like about
• 1:00:40
  what Greg said?
• 1:00:41
  And I'm sorry,
• 1:00:42
  I'm stepping on your toes here.
• 1:00:43
  Oh no, dude.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  It's your podcast.
• 1:00:44
  You go.
• 1:00:45
  is that this is not a, this is the answer.
• 1:00:50
  It's working toward the answer.
• 1:00:52
  Totally.
• 1:00:53
  It's, you know, when Greg defined fitness,
• 1:00:56
  that became the focal point.
• 1:00:58
  It was the health,
• 1:00:59
  even in the presentation of
• 1:01:00
  the lecture at the level one,
• 1:01:04
  when we define health,
• 1:01:07
  it's almost a little bit of
• 1:01:08
  an afterthought.
• 1:01:09
  About five minutes or five
• 1:01:11
  to seven minutes are
• 1:01:12
  devoted to the definition of health.
• 1:01:14
  as, as an observable,
• 1:01:16
  measurable and repeatable definition.
• 1:01:18
  Um, the whole, the, the,
• 1:01:20
  the hour long lecture is
• 1:01:21
  dedicated to the definition of fitness.
• 1:01:24
  And, and I mean, CrossFit, I mean,
• 1:01:27
  I was listening to the
• 1:01:28
  coffee pods and wads with, uh, with,
• 1:01:31
  with Peter,
• 1:01:32
  everyone called it probably
• 1:01:32
  knows him better than Pedro.
• 1:01:34
  Um,
• 1:01:35
  And he was, he was interviewing, uh,
• 1:01:38
  Johnny Davies,
• 1:01:39
  who's the current seminar staff member.
• 1:01:41
  And he's like,
• 1:01:41
  we gotta get back to forging
• 1:01:43
  elite fitness and the focus on fitness.
• 1:01:45
  And I mean, I think that's cool.
• 1:01:47
  Like CrossFit in the early days,
• 1:01:49
  like crossing the early
• 1:01:50
  days was focused on the tip of the spear.
• 1:01:53
  It's not wrong to think that
• 1:01:54
  it should go back to that.
• 1:01:57
  It's just very hard to focus on both.
• 1:02:01
  Very, very hard.
• 1:02:01
  It's extremely difficult, right?
• 1:02:04
  For so long,
• 1:02:05
  Greg did a great job of trying
• 1:02:07
  to balance all those things.
• 1:02:10
  But it's tough to do.
• 1:02:11
  And so, you know,
• 1:02:12
  a lot of people are
• 1:02:13
  attracted to just that
• 1:02:15
  two-dimensional definition
• 1:02:16
  of fitness of area under the curve,
• 1:02:18
  right?
• 1:02:19
  Power output across broad
• 1:02:21
  times and modal domains.
• 1:02:23
  But they fail to see
• 1:02:26
  that potentially some of the
• 1:02:27
  things that are giving them
• 1:02:29
  fitness now may be
• 1:02:31
  detrimental to their health later.
• 1:02:35
  And so all we're trying to
• 1:02:36
  do is we're trying to bring
• 1:02:38
  that third axis, that age axis,
• 1:02:41
  and bring that back into
• 1:02:42
  the forefront of the conversation.
• 1:02:45
  And we say,
• 1:02:45
  these are the things that you
• 1:02:46
  need to focus on to not ignore fitness,
• 1:02:49
  not ignore fitness.
• 1:02:51
  But if you want to
• 1:02:53
  live a long and healthy and
• 1:02:55
  functional life here's what
• 1:02:58
  you need to focus on I'm
• 1:03:01
  going to finish up with
• 1:03:02
  this I looked in the
• 1:03:04
  columbus area uh here in
• 1:03:06
  ohio we have we have a
• 1:03:07
  couple metfix gyms that are
• 1:03:09
  still crossfit affiliates
• 1:03:12
  they are both um and if you
• 1:03:14
  go to their website they
• 1:03:15
  list both crossfit courses
• 1:03:17
  and metfix and um and
• 1:03:19
  they're working seamlessly
• 1:03:21
  together totally
• 1:03:23
  Um,
• 1:03:24
  my first question is if I'm just a
• 1:03:26
  person working out in my
• 1:03:27
  garage and I want to do
• 1:03:28
  Metfix along with my workouts,
• 1:03:31
  is it free for me to go to
• 1:03:32
  this website every day and
• 1:03:33
  grab this information?
• 1:03:34
  Absolutely.
• 1:03:35
  Absolutely.
• 1:03:36
  Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  If I'm an affiliate, what do I get now?
• 1:03:41
  I, that's a question to comment.
• 1:03:42
  I went to your FAQ.
• 1:03:44
  You actually put a list on
• 1:03:45
  your FAQ of what you get as
• 1:03:47
  a Metfix affiliate.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:50
  So it's up there as well.
• 1:03:51
  There's tons of stuff we're doing.
• 1:03:53
  We've got an incredible tech
• 1:03:54
  team on the back end.
• 1:03:55
  They're building super
• 1:03:57
  robust dashboards for the
• 1:03:59
  affiliates to have access
• 1:04:01
  to message boards and
• 1:04:04
  collaboration opportunities
• 1:04:06
  and exclusive information to...
• 1:04:09
  to interviews and and you
• 1:04:11
  know podcasts that we do
• 1:04:12
  more for like back end we
• 1:04:14
  also have a like broken
• 1:04:15
  science as a medical
• 1:04:16
  society so what's really
• 1:04:18
  cool about the medical
• 1:04:19
  society it's a lot of
• 1:04:20
  patients are members with
• 1:04:21
  that but also a lot of doctors
• 1:04:23
  so they get some of that
• 1:04:24
  backend access as well.
• 1:04:26
  And there's also opportunity
• 1:04:27
  for collaboration and
• 1:04:29
  interaction between the
• 1:04:30
  medical society and between
• 1:04:32
  the affiliates as well.
• 1:04:33
  Um, so we really try to,
• 1:04:35
  we're trying to foster this.
• 1:04:36
  I mean, it's, you know,
• 1:04:37
  it's all going to sound super familiar,
• 1:04:39
  but you know, this grassroots, um,
• 1:04:43
  community that, but,
• 1:04:45
  but really focusing on that, again,
• 1:04:47
  that interaction between
• 1:04:48
  the trainer and the medical
• 1:04:50
  professional and, um,
• 1:04:53
  and the needs of the individual,
• 1:04:55
  that individual client and
• 1:04:58
  arming the trainer with the
• 1:04:59
  knowledge necessary to make
• 1:05:03
  the changes in the client,
• 1:05:04
  but also garner the trust
• 1:05:06
  from the medical
• 1:05:07
  professionals so that they
• 1:05:08
  can foster that healthy and
• 1:05:09
  professional interaction moving forward.
• 1:05:11
  So that's really what we're trying to do.
• 1:05:13
  So you see on the Broken
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  Science YouTube page,
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  there's a lot of ten minute
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  abbreviated versions of a
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  lot of the interviews that we do.
• 1:05:23
  There was an interview today,
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  I want to say with Benjamin Bickman,
• 1:05:29
  who's big in the nutrition space.
• 1:05:30
  He's a doctor.
• 1:05:31
  And that once uploaded,
• 1:05:33
  it'll get to the YouTube page.
• 1:05:35
  It'll be like a ten minute
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  condensed version.
• 1:05:37
  And then if you're a member
• 1:05:38
  of the Medical Society or the affiliate,
• 1:05:40
  you get full access on the back end.
• 1:05:43
  Greg does weekly calls with
• 1:05:44
  the affiliates as well, Metfix affiliates,
• 1:05:46
  and they get to ask him questions.
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  And those are kind of led by Dale,
• 1:05:51
  Dale King,
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  who most people in this space know.
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  Great dude.
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  And he's leading the affiliates.
• 1:05:55
  And, you know,
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  Dale kind of fostered and
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  host that conversation
• 1:06:00
  between the affiliates and
• 1:06:02
  and Greg on that that weekly basis.
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  And
• 1:06:06
  And then we're going to
• 1:06:07
  start doing interactions
• 1:06:08
  between the seminar staff
• 1:06:10
  and the affiliates as well,
• 1:06:12
  do sort of private
• 1:06:12
  interviews to talk about
• 1:06:14
  implementation of this
• 1:06:15
  stuff and how you can make
• 1:06:18
  small changes in the gym to
• 1:06:19
  impact in a big way out in
• 1:06:21
  the communities and not
• 1:06:22
  just inside the four walls
• 1:06:23
  of your own facility.
• 1:06:25
  Final question,
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  I'll let you go is... I know,
• 1:06:28
  I got all day here, Scott.
• 1:06:31
  I wish I did.
• 1:06:32
  I've got a meeting.
• 1:06:32
  I know.
• 1:06:33
  Okay, okay.
• 1:06:35
  Final question is,
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  with CrossFit up for sale,
• 1:06:40
  we don't know who the new buyers are.
• 1:06:41
  There's speculation.
• 1:06:43
  There's all this stuff going on.
• 1:06:44
  The suspense is killing me.
• 1:06:47
  Could you see a day where
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  Metfix and CrossFit work
• 1:06:52
  hand in hand moving forward?
• 1:06:55
  I don't see why not.
• 1:06:59
  Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  You're asking if it's plausible.
• 1:07:00
  Of course it's plausible.
• 1:07:02
  Anything's plausible.
• 1:07:02
  Right.
• 1:07:05
  Right.
• 1:07:05
  We didn't think it was
• 1:07:06
  plausible that be like Greg
• 1:07:07
  was going to sell CrossFit.
• 1:07:11
  Look what happened.
• 1:07:13
  If you truly are like that
• 1:07:16
  next level of nutrition.
• 1:07:18
  Yeah.
• 1:07:18
  And that's the missing piece.
• 1:07:19
  And that's what Greg
• 1:07:20
  identified as the PC didn't
• 1:07:22
  get right the first time.
• 1:07:24
  Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Right.
• 1:07:27
  I wouldn't even say that.
• 1:07:29
  He got it right.
• 1:07:30
  He's just, there wasn't room for,
• 1:07:31
  there wasn't room to talk about the rest.
• 1:07:33
  There's so much mind blowing
• 1:07:35
  stuff happening at the base level.
• 1:07:37
  It's like you can only get
• 1:07:38
  so far and now we're just
• 1:07:39
  taking it to the next level.
• 1:07:40
  I didn't mean it as a criticism.
• 1:07:42
  I meant it as like the structure,
• 1:07:44
  the structure that was developed,
• 1:07:45
  developed only gave
• 1:07:47
  nutrition an hour in the L one.
• 1:07:49
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:07:49
  Right.
• 1:07:50
  And that is a misstep.
• 1:07:52
  now looking back greg thinks
• 1:07:54
  there needs to be more
• 1:07:55
  emphasis on the nutrition
• 1:07:57
  aspect of things sure right
• 1:08:00
  it it does seem to want to
• 1:08:03
  fit hand in glove if that's
• 1:08:05
  truly the case it does it
• 1:08:09
  fits perfectly um yeah
• 1:08:17
  I want to ask these other questions,
• 1:08:20
  but I really just can't today.
• 1:08:24
  If you'll have me back,
• 1:08:26
  we can make the time and follow up.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah, let's do that.
• 1:08:29
  We'll let people kind of let
• 1:08:32
  this sit in for a little bit,
• 1:08:33
  and then I'll reach out to
• 1:08:34
  you and have you back.
• 1:08:35
  And maybe they can come with
• 1:08:37
  their questions,
• 1:08:38
  and we'll have more of a Q&A next time.
• 1:08:40
  Awesome.
• 1:08:40
  I love it.
• 1:08:42
  pete thank you very much for
• 1:08:43
  taking the time out um I
• 1:08:45
  could have gone another I
• 1:08:46
  still have a ton of notes
• 1:08:47
  myself um but I could have
• 1:08:49
  got another hour but we're
• 1:08:51
  just crammed for time today
• 1:08:53
  and so glad you took the
• 1:08:54
  time out for us it's been
• 1:08:56
  an absolute pleasure thank
• 1:08:57
  you so much for having me
• 1:09:00
  have a have a great day
• 1:09:00
  everybody in the chat and
• 1:09:02
  join us tomorrow for lunch
• 1:09:03
  with the clydesdale thanks guys