Latest / Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast / Caroline Njau, Senior Vice President of Patient Care Services and Chief Nursing Officer at Children’s Minnesota
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- 0:00- Prepare to dive into the forefront
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- 0:27- This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:30I'm thrilled today to be joined by Caroline Jao,
- 0:33senior Vice President of Patient Care Services
- 0:35and Chief Nursing Officer at Children's Minnesota.
- 0:37Caroline is a pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:40- Thank you for having me, Laura. I'm excited to be here.
- 0:44- Now, I know we have a lot to talk about,
- 0:45and I'm certainly looking forward to learning more about
- 0:48what you're doing at Children's Minnesota.
- 0:49But before we dive into my broader questions,
- 0:51can you tell me a little bit more
- 0:52about yourself and your background?
- 0:54- Absolutely. So as you mentioned, my name is Caroline,
- 0:58and I started my career as a nurse almost 18 years ago
- 1:02and have evolved, evolved in following my passion
- 1:05for nursing leadership.
- 1:06That has also led me into executive leadership
- 1:09for the last three years at Children Minnesota.
- 1:11Um, I've had the honor of receiving several leadership
- 1:15and impact awards, um, over the last several years,
- 1:18including the modern healthcare
- 1:20top 25 emerging leaders in 22.
- 1:24Um, also a rising star in healthcare
- 1:26by Becker Hospital Review.
- 1:28And then most recently,
- 1:29the Twin Cities notable Bipoc executives.
- 1:32Uh, it's an honor in, um, for me to be responsible
- 1:37for leading patient care services
- 1:38and operations, which include nursing, child
- 1:42and family services, support operations
- 1:45and pharmacy here at Children's Minnesota.
- 1:48And then, uh, in addition to
- 1:49that is the chief nursing officer.
- 1:52I lead nursing strategy, education,
- 1:54and professional development for one
- 1:56of the largest pediatric healthcare systems in the country.
- 2:00I'm also proud to say
- 2:01that Children's Minnesota is a magnet designated system
- 2:05for delivering the highest quality care
- 2:08for nursing excellence.
- 2:09So that's a little bit about me.
- 2:13- Fantastic. And you know, it's great to hear
- 2:15that you've had such a great achievements
- 2:17and accomplishments throughout your career.
- 2:18I can imagine it's such a rewarding role, um, you know, to,
- 2:21to be helping the children on a daily basis
- 2:24and then to, um, to be recognized is really cool.
- 2:26So I'm wondering, what are some of the biggest issues
- 2:29that you're following in healthcare for this year?
- 2:33- Question, uh, Laura. Uh, I think, uh, I would start
- 2:36with workforce pressures
- 2:38that are definitely impacting staffing,
- 2:41especially in nursing and support operations.
- 2:44Um, and these pressures have also inspired innovation
- 2:48and short term and long term strategies that have been one
- 2:52of my focuses, uh, in my role
- 2:54as a guidance support recruitment of nurses in a very,
- 2:58very tight and competitive labor market.
- 3:01Of course, I'm able to do this in partnership
- 3:03with our amazing nursing teams and our recruitment teams.
- 3:06Um, so that's, uh, one of our biggest challenges.
- 3:09And, um, I'll also say that, you know, we have
- 3:12to think about, you know, what are we gonna do about this?
- 3:14And so one of my commitments has been in expanding
- 3:18our transition to practice programs for new licensed nurses.
- 3:22Um, and this is a program that, um, bridges the gap
- 3:25between academic preparation and clinical practice.
- 3:28This year alone, we'll have four cohorts.
- 3:30Last year we five cohorts.
- 3:32Uh, in addition to that, um, innovating, uh,
- 3:37in thinking of different ways to recruit nurses, um,
- 3:40especially for children's Minnesota.
- 3:42We serve a very diverse community.
- 3:44So, uh, we looked at different ways, uh,
- 3:47of diversifying the nursing workforce.
- 3:49Um, and just in 22, we have a 22%, um, rate
- 3:54of new nurses hired of color across the organization.
- 3:58Um, it's a joy to work with kids.
- 4:01And so, um, as I think about, you know, talent,
- 4:04the challenges we face, I'm also thinking about
- 4:07what a joy working with kids brings to many,
- 4:10especially those who are passionate like our kid experts
- 4:14and we, and honor to support an organization
- 4:16that has been here for a hundred years, um,
- 4:19as the key experts in our region.
- 4:21So those are, you know,
- 4:22workforce challenges are a big one for me, for sure.
- 4:25Um, and we'll continue to be this year,
- 4:27but I'm proud of the work that we have done
- 4:29and what we continue to do.
- 4:31Lastly, um, health inequities
- 4:35and healthcare outcomes across the nation are a challenge
- 4:38for all of us, myself, including, um, which, um,
- 4:43as you can imagine, this inequities are driven
- 4:45by many factors, including social determinants of health.
- 4:48And so I'm also looking at ways in these,
- 4:51our organization can address those issues in 2024.
- 4:55So those are couple of my challenges.
- 4:57Laura, I hope that's helpful.
- 4:59- Yeah, I, I, you know, I think that, uh, is really helpful
- 5:02to know and understand, to think through the, um, you know,
- 5:05really results driven way that you've looked at kind
- 5:09of improving patient care as well
- 5:10as looking at the nursing team.
- 5:12The retention rate in building more diverse teams is really,
- 5:15um, impressive to see.
- 5:18When you look ahead, what are you most excited
- 5:19about and what makes you nervous?
- 5:22- Um, good question. I think my current excitement
- 5:25and which will be for the next few years, is in my role
- 5:28as I think about supporting our patients in our communities,
- 5:31the recruitment and, uh, of nurses and our support staff.
- 5:35Um, I think that's what gives me so much joy right now.
- 5:39And every other week I get a chance
- 5:41to welcome new hired people, um, employees and nurses.
- 5:45The story of why they get into, uh, nursing and healthcare
- 5:49and why they want to work at Children's Minnesota is
- 5:53so inspiring and gives me lots of excitement
- 5:56to continue supporting all of our teams
- 5:59and our patients, um, as they dedicate their life
- 6:03and careers to delivering expert pediatric care.
- 6:06My other excitement is around our organization, been around
- 6:10for a hundred years, Laura, and that's exciting.
- 6:13It's solidified our expertise in pediatrics
- 6:17and we're truly the key experts, um, in our region,
- 6:21I would argue across the nation.
- 6:22Um, this also brings a lot of stability to the organization.
- 6:26So those two things are continuing
- 6:28to support our patients and our meeting members.
- 6:30And, um, and also continuing to celebrate a solid,
- 6:35solid expertise with a hundred, um,
- 6:38hundredth year anniversary bring me the most joy.
- 6:42- You know, it's so impressive to have that type
- 6:43of legacy a hundred years, um, you know, to
- 6:46of being served the same community
- 6:47and really grow with the families that live there
- 6:49and work there to make the community great.
- 6:52And then too, as you mentioned, just, you know,
- 6:54the excitement of, of new employees
- 6:56and new team members coming on.
- 6:57Um, you know, that seems like it'll be really rewarding.
- 7:00Um, but you know, I,
- 7:01I know the flip side I asked about too, Yeah.
- 7:04Some things that makes you nervous.
- 7:05And I can imagine, you know, there might be one
- 7:07or two things that are on your mind there too.
- 7:11- Uh, absolutely. Yeah.
- 7:12No, I think, um, and, and makes me nervous.
- 7:16I is really thinking about, um, as healthcare leaders,
- 7:20myself included, we are challenged with being able to find
- 7:24and implement, um, sustainable solutions
- 7:27that are addressing health outcome inequities, especially
- 7:31for diverse communities.
- 7:34It makes me nervous, but it also gives me a passion.
- 7:37And so when I think about yet Children's Minnesota,
- 7:40what we are doing, um, that makes me so proud, uh,
- 7:44in the way we are addressing disparities
- 7:46and social determin health.
- 7:48However, I'm nervous about sustainability
- 7:52for our healthcare system in being able to, um,
- 7:56close these disparities
- 7:58because we live in communities of many, um, people
- 8:02who bring very diverse backgrounds.
- 8:04So, uh, I'm nervous about can we sustain,
- 8:08can we find sustainable ways of healthcare
- 8:11to really close this task?
- 8:13I think we can, I'm motivated to,
- 8:15but it also makes me nervous.
- 8:19- I, I think that's such a great point.
- 8:20And certainly, you know, it takes, um, time and effort
- 8:23and resources to make progress, especially, um, in,
- 8:27in those gaps of care.
- 8:28And I can imagine there's a lot of different, um,
- 8:31access points or, or areas that you could focus on.
- 8:34Is there anything right now, any projects
- 8:36or initiatives that, um, you know, you're zeroing in on or,
- 8:40or any segments of, um, whether it's diseases or,
- 8:43or populations that, you know,
- 8:45you're really focused on when
- 8:46you're thinking about health equity?
- 8:48- Um, as a pediatric system?
- 8:51Um, I think, you know, we look at, you know,
- 8:53we talked about access.
- 8:54Uh, we also look at outcomes
- 8:56and uh, right now we're looking at immunizations for kids.
- 9:00Um, and our teams have done a fantastic job
- 9:03of trying new ways to immunize kids
- 9:06because we know when we help raise healthier children,
- 9:10we help our community, we help the next generation.
- 9:14So, um, I think we look at access and we should,
- 9:18but immunizations are a big focus for us right now,
- 9:22and we continue to look at other ways as well.
- 9:24So, um, and our work here at Children's Minnesota is
- 9:27building a community collaborative that allows us to know
- 9:32how we can partner to close this gap.
- 9:36So we're not doing it alone.
- 9:37And we have our community teams working with our community,
- 9:42advising us on how, what we can do best.
- 9:44So those are my two immunizations collaborations, um,
- 9:48making sure we're providing access
- 9:51amongst the list of many other things.
- 9:54- That's amazing to hear.
- 9:55Well, before I wrap up here, Caroline, I was wondering,
- 9:57could you talk about what the most effective healthcare
- 10:00leaders will need in order
- 10:01to be successful in the next two to three years or so?
- 10:04Especially as we think about how healthcare is changing
- 10:07and some of the new opportunities
- 10:08that are coming up in the space?
- 10:11- Yes, thank you.
- 10:12I'll share the, what I also remind myself of
- 10:16what makes an effective leader one, uh, is the willingness
- 10:19to be nimble and to try something different, um,
- 10:22to innovation in order to solve complex problems.
- 10:26Um, and, you know, workforce health inequities,
- 10:29those are complex problems.
- 10:31I also, you know, um, think that to be an effective leader,
- 10:35we cannot rely on playbooks of the past, um, as the only way
- 10:40to solve this issue.
- 10:41So thinking of different ways in
- 10:43the next two to three years.
- 10:44Secondly, as a leader, it's important to center yourself
- 10:48around, uh, your why or your life's calling.
- 10:51Leadership is a noble responsibility.
- 10:54When it gets tough, we'll keep you grounded and committed.
- 10:58I remind myself of my why often.
- 11:01And then lastly, can do this alone.
- 11:04Partnerships, relationships.
- 11:07It is impossible to address healthcare. Challeng alone.
- 11:11Find like-minded leaders like you who can be your mentors,
- 11:16resources, help partners or coaches.
- 11:19I look for this individual every single day
- 11:22because I believe that, um, together we are stronger
- 11:26and we can overcome the challenges that we're facing.
- 11:29So that would be my advice
- 11:31for effective leadership over the next few years.
- 11:35- That's amazing advice and,
- 11:36and certainly so helpful to know and think about.
- 11:39Caroline, thank you so much for joining us
- 11:40on the podcast today.
- 11:42This has been such a fun conversation.
- 11:44Um, I really can hear the joy that you bring
- 11:47to your job every day and passion for what you do.
- 11:49So I appreciate your time today,
- 11:51and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 11:54- All right. Thank you very much, Laura, for having me.
- 11:56It's been an honest, be part of the podcast.