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Hour 2: NYC Crime Stats. · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Curtis Lewa and Larry Mendte in the morning on 710 WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what a shocker in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial.
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  Speaker 2: A note came from the jurors saying that they were
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  Speaker 2: stuck because of one juror. Eleven were leaning one way.
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  Speaker 2: One juror was not playing ball. And they claim that
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  Speaker 2: that juror was ignoring the judge's instructions. So the judge,
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  Speaker 2: Judge William Sullivan, interviewed each and every one of them
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  Speaker 2: and then called them in together. and read them in
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  Speaker 2: front of full court, in front of all the attorneys,
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  Speaker 2: read to them the instructions once again, and said, you
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  Speaker 2: must follow these instructions.
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  Speaker 3: I want to remind you that you are required to
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  Speaker 3: follow my instructions on the law as I gave them
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But then he said something that made you kind of
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  Speaker 2: believe that the one person that was holding out was
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  Speaker 2: a person that was calling for the most severe penalty.
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  Speaker 2: It gave you the indication, which I would never have
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  Speaker 2: seen coming, and this might be incorrect. You might have
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  Speaker 2: another opinion, or you may have another take on this
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  Speaker 2: from hearing what they said. But this stuck out to me.
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  Speaker 3: If you evaluate all the evidence and you still have
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  Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt remaining, the defendant is entitled to the
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  Speaker 3: benefit of that doubt and must be acquitted.
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  Speaker 2: The defendant is entitled to the benefit of that doubt,
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  Speaker 2: which would lead you to believe that that person is
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  Speaker 2: standing in the way of reasonable doubt. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as I hear it now for the second time, I'm
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  Speaker 2: actually turning the other way. Because If it is the
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  Speaker 2: defendant that would benefit and they have a reasonable doubt,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe the one holdout is not saying most of
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  Speaker 2: your penalty, but is saying that this person is either
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  Speaker 2: not guilty or this person showed no criminal intent because
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  Speaker 2: of a psychosis. Either way, the criminal defense attorney jumped
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  Speaker 2: up after that to object.
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  Speaker 5: To his rulings.
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  Speaker 6: It's a shame. It's a real shame. And that's why
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  Speaker 6: I object to the court's ruling. I request that we
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  Speaker 6: have further inquiry. I request that my motion is to
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  Speaker 6: remove this juror that refuses to listen to your instruction
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  Speaker 6: on reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And he said it once again, leaving the courtroom when
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  Speaker 2: he talked to all of the reporters.
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  Speaker 6: If we come back here in a half an hour
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  Speaker 6: with a mistrial because of a juror that has just
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  Speaker 6: spurned the instructions of this court, it's a shame. It's
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  Speaker 6: a real shame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way he's acting leads you to believe
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  Speaker 2: that the other ones, I was right the first time,
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  Speaker 2: all the other ones wanted to convict. All the other
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  Speaker 2: ones want to convict, and there's one holdout for her
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  Speaker 2: who is not going to go off that position, and
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  Speaker 2: the other 11 are so frustrated, and the defense attorney
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  Speaker 2: is so frustrated, they want her removed. But the judge says,
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  Speaker 2: I just can't do that. I can't take sides in this.
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  Speaker 2: If somebody feels that way, they feel that way. So
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  Speaker 2: unless there's a huge change today, and it's been day
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  Speaker 2: after day after day after day, they haven't called for
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  Speaker 2: any evidence. They haven't called for any questions. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like today it would be a hung jury.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I look at it differently.
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  Speaker 7: If the defense attorney wants that juror removed, that's because
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  Speaker 7: he believes she wants his client found guilty. And he
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  Speaker 7: feels relatively assured that the other 11 will probably find
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  Speaker 7: her guilty already. as a reason of insanity and then,
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  Speaker 7: you know, want to put her away in a mental
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  Speaker 7: health facility. So that's probably what he thinks. But we
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  Speaker 7: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But the judge also signaled that exact same thing. When
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  Speaker 2: the judge said the defendant has the right to one
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  Speaker 2: of the jurors having a reasonable doubt. Did he say
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  Speaker 2: right or benefit? Let me play that again because I
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  Speaker 2: think it was such a substantial statement.
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  Speaker 3: If you evaluate all the evidence and you still have
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  Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt remaining, the defendant is entitled to the
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  Speaker 3: benefit of that doubt and must be acquitted.
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  Speaker 5: Is entitled.
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  Speaker 2: So the benefit of the doubt would have– the reasonable
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  Speaker 2: doubt would have benefited her.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's– And since he talked to each one of them,
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  Speaker 2: he's the only one in that courtroom except for the
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  Speaker 2: jurors that knew. Well, I think the attorneys were in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom also.
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  Speaker 5: But the defense attorney then said, okay, that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be it.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I have one similar situation, completely different case.
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  Speaker 7: First time, John Gotti Jr. is on trial for the
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  Speaker 7: kidnap and attempted killing of me. The jury came back
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  Speaker 7: 11-1 to convict. 11-1 to convict. It was one holdout juror.
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  Speaker 7: You get a chance to speak to jurors afterwards if
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  Speaker 7: they're willing to talk to you as members of the
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  Speaker 7: press or even, you know, if you happen to be
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  Speaker 7: involved in the case. And I'll never forget it was
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  Speaker 7: a black woman and I had a chance to talk
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  Speaker 7: to her and I said, you do know he tried
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  Speaker 7: to kill me, him and Gamby.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't doubt that.
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  Speaker 7: Well, why did you vote in the negative?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't trust anything the U.S. government says. And
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  Speaker 5: you imagine what I felt like at that point.
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  Speaker 7: So her reasonable doubt was based on the fact that
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  Speaker 7: in the voyeur they give you when they try to
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  Speaker 7: weed out these kind of jurors who have these prejudices,
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  Speaker 7: she filtered through the cracks. Or he would have been
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  Speaker 7: doing triple life without parole for attempting to kill me.
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  Speaker 7: You imagine how I felt at that moment?
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  Speaker 5: Just think of it.
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  Speaker 7: Her reasonable doubt was not about me, not about what
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  Speaker 7: he intended to do and what his Gambino guys did.
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  Speaker 7: But she just didn't trust the U.S. government, which were
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  Speaker 7: the prosecutors, and actually told the jury, we do not
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  Speaker 7: represent Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Sliwa. We represent the government.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: But you do.
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  Speaker 7: Understand that one holdout jury, and it all goes back
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  Speaker 7: to that famous movie, remember, with Henry Fonda, where he's
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  Speaker 7: in the jury room, and he's the holdout juror, and
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  Speaker 7: the other 11 jurors are screaming at him.
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  Speaker 2: And Right, 12 angry men. But he was able to
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  Speaker 2: convince all the other ones. The other ones are all
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  Speaker 2: just frustrated with this one person.
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  Speaker 7: That's because he's an Academy Award winning guy. I guess
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  Speaker 7: this one is not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and because they were following a script, I guess
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  Speaker 2: she didn't get the script on this. But it seems
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  Speaker 2: like this holdout is in benefit of the defense. And so, man,
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  Speaker 2: I am completely thrown on this.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 7: But do you realize if we had been doing Polly
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  Speaker 7: Market and Kelsey yesterday, I would have made a lot
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  Speaker 7: of money. Because remember, I said it's going to go
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  Speaker 7: to Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And you thought by the end of the day tomorrow,
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  Speaker 5: it would be resolved. Jury would be home. I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was going to be a hung jury. Yes. Which
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  Speaker 5: it could have been.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're basically saying we're a hung jury and
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  Speaker 2: we can't get past this one person. but it's only
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  Speaker 2: one person, what do we do? And he's making it
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  Speaker 2: clear it doesn't matter that it's one person. If it's
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  Speaker 2: one person that doesn't agree with the rest of you,
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  Speaker 2: they have just as much right to their opinion as
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  Speaker 2: all the rest of you do. But the jurors feel
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  Speaker 2: like she's not following the law or the judge's instructions.
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  Speaker 2: And so, wow, 11 to 1.
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  Speaker 7: If they have to call a mistrial because of this,
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  Speaker 7: all the reporters will run to her if she's willing
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  Speaker 7: to talk to.
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  Speaker 5: The reporters about it. Shit, they'll forget about all the
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  Speaker 5: other 11. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 7: We'll catch up to you in a few days. It's
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  Speaker 7: funny that you said her. I'm assuming it's a her.
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  Speaker 5: You do? Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think?
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  Speaker 7: I'm a savant, like our own crash year? Well, the
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  Speaker 7: odds are it would be. There's nine of them that
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  Speaker 7: are women.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say, yeah, there's nine women
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  Speaker 5: on the jury.
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  Speaker 7: And also, women in juries before have said that they've
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  Speaker 7: been bullied. Because they've been in the minority, you know,
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  Speaker 7: normally by whoever is chosen to be the jury for person,
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  Speaker 7: you know, for men or for women to begin with.
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  Speaker 7: I do know of different cases where there's been a
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  Speaker 7: female holdout or two and they kept their position intact
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  Speaker 7: because they felt they were being bullied and they weren't
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  Speaker 7: going to be bullied out of their position. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it's infighting within the jury box.
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  Speaker 5: Give me your.
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  Speaker 2: Interpretation about this one more time, because we're reading tea
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  Speaker 2: leaves and we're reading what they're all saying. What is
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  Speaker 2: your belief that the person that is holding out wants?
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  Speaker 7: I say that that person who's holding out wants a
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  Speaker 7: more severe penalty.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So we're yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We're in agreement.
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  Speaker 2: And you get that from this. I'll play this again
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  Speaker 2: because this is really important.
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  Speaker 4: It's a shame.
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  Speaker 6: It's a real shame. And that's why I object to
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  Speaker 6: the court's ruling. I request that we have further inquiry.
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  Speaker 6: I request that my motion is to remove this juror
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  Speaker 6: that refuses to listen to your instruction on reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously, if the defense attorney wants somebody removed, that
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  Speaker 2: person is standing in the way of either clearing his
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  Speaker 2: client or making it so she only gets some treatment,
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  Speaker 2: goes to a psychiatric ward rather than going to prison.
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  Speaker 7: And the only way you'd be able to remove a
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  Speaker 7: juror at this point in the deliberations is is if
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  Speaker 7: she was really sick and incapable of proceeding, but you
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  Speaker 7: would have an alternate that would take her place. There
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  Speaker 7: should be six alternates. I'm not sure what the Massachusetts
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  Speaker 7: rules are, but there's probably six alternates who've heard the
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  Speaker 7: case also. So yeah, the defense attorney, I think, knows
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  Speaker 7: that that one person who I think is a woman
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  Speaker 7: is the only reason that the judge has not declared
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  Speaker 7: a mistrial and told everybody to go home And it's
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  Speaker 7: up to the prosecution. Do you want to do this
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  Speaker 7: all over again? The prosecution will probably say, we need
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  Speaker 7: a few days, judge. Let's see if we can regroup
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  Speaker 7: in about a week. And then I believe that the
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  Speaker 7: prosecution would probably reach out to the defense attorney and say,
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  Speaker 7: rather than go through all of this, why don't we
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  Speaker 7: just try to work out a plea? Why don't we
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  Speaker 7: try to work out something so that when we go
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  Speaker 7: before the judge in about a week, it's over.
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  Speaker 5: It's over.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: No matter what happens, this is just every single day
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  Speaker 2: there is some type of drama, and I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be another one today. I agree with Curtis.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure this could go another day. The jurors
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  Speaker 2: are obviously frustrated. They're frustrated with this one person. So
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  Speaker 2: a hung jury does seem to be in the offing,
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  Speaker 2: and it sounds like that hung jury is going to
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  Speaker 2: benefit the prosecution.
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  Speaker 7: Now, looking a little bit into it too much, I
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  Speaker 7: believe it's a she that's holding out. I believe she'll
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  Speaker 7: probably be getting advice from family or friends. You realize?
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  Speaker 7: You could be in for a windfall of money now.
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  Speaker 7: People are going to want to have you.
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  Speaker 5: As the guest. And you know they pay for guests. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 7: They have the first interviews, books, magazine articles.
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  Speaker 5: Why were you the holdout?
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  Speaker 7: I think that's a real possibility because even though you're
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  Speaker 7: not supposed to be discussing the case, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know every relative in front knows that they're on that jury.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have to move on. And we have proof
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  Speaker 2: positive evidence. that college football is really, really screwed up.
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  Speaker 2: We'll tell you about the latest lawsuit and the latest
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  Speaker 2: ruling when we come back, plus a chance to see
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  Speaker 2: air supply at 825. Well, we have.
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  Speaker 5: More proof positive that the NCAA, Curtis, is just completely
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  Speaker 5: screwed up.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, without a doubt, after last night's loss by Rutgers
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  Speaker 7: to the University of Massachusetts, 37-21, University of Massachusetts was
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  Speaker 7: 0-12 last year. Think it's time to give a buyout
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  Speaker 7: of $ 18 million to Greg Sciano, the coach?
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  Speaker 2: You're really surprised at this? Because Rutgers football was cursed
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  Speaker 2: by an evil witch long ago. They can't get out
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  Speaker 2: of their own way. They never make a good decision.
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  Speaker 5: They paid... They paid to have this team come play them.
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  Speaker 5: They had lost.
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  Speaker 2: You said they were 0-12 last year. They had lost
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  Speaker 2: 16 straight games. 16 straight games, the longest losing streak
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  Speaker 2: in Division I.
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  Speaker 5: And they came in.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Rutgers was a 28-point favorite in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and they still lost. And guess what they did at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the game? They set off fireworks. People
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  Speaker 2: were really upset. Well, if you're the coach, Greg Sciani,
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  Speaker 2: you say, you want to buy me out? It costs
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  Speaker 2: you 18 mil right now.
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  Speaker 5: I'll walk.
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  Speaker 8: I'll walk.
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  Speaker 2: They are going to take it. That's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a bargain. I'll tell you what, that's not what he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about. I was actually talking about the NCAA rules. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, they ruled, this was a Supreme Court ruling,
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  Speaker 2: that their players deserved compensation. That pretty much ruined it
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  Speaker 2: right there. Then recently they ruled you have a fifth
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  Speaker 2: year of eligibility. So if you don't make it at
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  Speaker 2: NFL camp, you can go ahead and come back. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that got into the mind of some other players who
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  Speaker 2: may have made teams, but now they have some more eligibility.
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  Speaker 2: They might be able to go back and play if
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  Speaker 2: they're going to take NFL players, people that are cut,
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  Speaker 2: that sign with a team and then are cut. Why
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  Speaker 2: can't we play? So these two players decided that they
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  Speaker 2: were going to try to play. Daquan Wright, who was
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  Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns last year, and Zavian Harris, who
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  Speaker 2: played with Baltimore last year.
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  Speaker 5: One is a tight end. One is a lineman.
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  Speaker 2: And they decided, OK, we're not going to make it
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  Speaker 2: or we're not going to play as much as we want.
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  Speaker 2: We can still make money in the NCAA. We have
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  Speaker 2: more eligibility. We're going to go back and play. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the FCC and the NCAA said, no, no, no, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't mean you. We didn't mean you. We just meant
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  Speaker 2: some people at camp. You were actually on the team.
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  Speaker 5: That started a lawsuit. And guess who won?
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  Speaker 7: The two players. The judge ruled in their favor, which
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  Speaker 7: creates even more chaos. Because let's assume that they get cut,
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  Speaker 7: but they stay on the practice squad. They get paid
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  Speaker 7: a minimum amount of money to be on an NFL team.
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  Speaker 7: They make way more in college now playing for a
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  Speaker 7: college team than they would ever make for being on
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  Speaker 7: the practice squad of the very team that cut them.
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  Speaker 10: And they get to play. And the amazing thing is
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  Speaker 10: that the attorney general in Louisiana said, And also the state,
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  Speaker 10: the local attorney, both got on the side of the players.
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  Speaker 7: Justice was served and justice was served to the SEC.
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  Speaker 5: It was served like a cold cup of gumbo. And
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  Speaker 5: that judge forced him.
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  Speaker 4: To eat it.
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  Speaker 5: I love Louisiana.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he probably went to LSU. That's why he was
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  Speaker 7: so pro-LSU doing this. Georgia, though, the Bulldogs said, no,
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  Speaker 7: we don't want pros. We don't want pros coming back
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  Speaker 7: onto our squad. So it's going to require the president.
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  Speaker 7: He's put together a committee that has a lot of
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  Speaker 7: previous college coaches. I know Randy Levine of the Yankees,
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  Speaker 7: the president, is on it, which they're supposed to set
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  Speaker 7: up guardrails.
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  Speaker 5: He can't overrule the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: If this goes to the Supreme Court, which a couple
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  Speaker 2: of them has, then it's not going to matter what
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  Speaker 2: the president does. By the way, that was District Attorney
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  Speaker 2: Tony Clayton that was talking a second ago. Now let's
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  Speaker 2: get some talkbacks.
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  Speaker 4: Larry, I think you have it backwards in a rare
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  Speaker 4: time when Curtis is actually right. The burden of proof
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  Speaker 4: on proving insanity is on the prosecution. So 11 people
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  Speaker 4: obviously think the prosecution has failed that burden, and there's
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  Speaker 4: a doubt as to the sanity. The one holdout thinks
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  Speaker 4: that the defendant is indeed sane. So that's what it
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  Speaker 4: looks like, what is happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went back and forth on it, but you're
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  Speaker 2: exactly right. But it is odd, then, that the defense said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we should keep this person. That's what was the oddest
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  Speaker 2: part about it. Remember, they argued, if a juror doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get the right of being able to decide that there's
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  Speaker 2: not enough evidence, then anyway— It was really hazy there
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  Speaker 2: for a second, but I think you're right.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Larry, you do a disservice to the public, especially
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  Speaker 8: young adults and kids, by diluting the message about these
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  Speaker 8: prediction markets. They're gambling. They are skirting the law. It's
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  Speaker 8: causing a whole generation of young kids to get addicted
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  Speaker 8: to gambling, and it's going to be a problem in
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  Speaker 8: the future. The legislatures have to address this, and I
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  Speaker 8: don't know why Trump supports it.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was pretty clear I knew it was gambling.
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  Speaker 2: I was being sarcastic at the very beginning saying that
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't gambling because obviously, obviously it is. What's going
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  Speaker 2: to be really interesting in the lawsuit is that they
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: go back to money lost because if that happens, they
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: may have to pay billions in this settlement. Now, Daria
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Albinger with the 730 News.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Anybody ever tell you got to hold up the sarcasm sign, Larry,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: when you're using sarcasm? Doesn't work in radio.
• 18:02
  Speaker 10: Do you know how many times I've been caught by that?
• 18:04
  Speaker 10: curtis lewa and larry minty in the morning.
• 18:08
  Speaker 11: Guaranteed human on 710 wor.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: On the line right now rob astorino former county executive
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: guy who gave a really good run against andrew evil
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: eyes cuomo for the governorship and now a fixture at
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: newsmax and naturally here wor saturdays four to five now
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: rob as a good republican as you've always been have
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: you uh heard the call from the RNC and President
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: Trump to come to Dallas, come to Dallas for the
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: 9th and the 10th before 9-11, sort of a mini
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: convention before the president makes the big push to hold
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: the House and keep the Senate?
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: I have heard the call, Curtis, but I am not going.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: As of now, I am not going.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: It's going to be interesting.
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: Look, I think Newsmax and Fox will cover it. You'll
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: have CNN and MSNOW will probably have as little as
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: humanly possible. And even with that, with a sourpuss on
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: and distort whatever is said. And the networks aren't going
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: to cover it. I mean, this is not a presidential
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: election or nomination convention. So I don't... Look, I think
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: it's a good idea to try it. But even before
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: this starts... I just saw a poll yesterday, I think
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: it was the Harvard-Harris poll. The Republicans in the generic
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: ballot there with likely voters are actually winning on the
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: ballot against Democrats. And some of the other polls that
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: I've seen, just the other public polls, the numbers are
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: starting to come down, to getting a little closer. So
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: maybe things are actually heading in the right direction as
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: people are starting to, you know, really understand what's at
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: stake here. And as you got the El Sayeds and
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: the others on the left getting a lot of attention
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: and people like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what, what did
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: they just say? So, you know, I guess Labor Day
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: is their traditional kickoff and we're, we're here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as optimistic as you are, and I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: follow the Cook Report like I follow box scores, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: they don't paint a really good picture. Right now, it
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: used to be 15 toss-ups. That was just a couple
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Now there are 21 toss-ups in the House.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: 16 of them are Republican seats. And then when you
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: go to the Senate, it used to be four. Now
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: it's six. Five of the six are Republican seats. There's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: some horrible numbers right now.
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but remember the Cook Report and those like it,
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Sabato and others, it's a subjective measure on what they
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: go lean Democrat, lean Republican, To some extent. I mean,
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: they try to use an aggregate of the polls, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: then they also try to use whatever formulas they decide
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: to use. I'm not saying it's not a great mood
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: right now. I don't think it is. If it were tomorrow,
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: the election, I think Republicans would lose the House. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: still think they're going to hold the Senate. Honestly, Texas
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: is going to be Texas in the end. Maybe it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: a little closer. And look, I've talked to people in
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: Texas who have seen the inside numbers. They are not
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: happy where things are right now. But there's still a
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: lot of time to play out, and a lot of
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: voters do vote the way they normally do. Same thing
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: with Alaska. Michigan is a real pickup opportunity. North Carolina
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: is a little closer than people think. And Trump won
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: that state three times. So there are still plenty of
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: runway left.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: Rob Asciarino, let's look at the election prospects for 2028. Yesterday,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: we had an opportunity to look at J.D. Vance, again,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: our vice president, as the spokesperson for the Trump administration
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: until they find a permanent one. What is this weird
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: obsession he has with Tucker Carlson? He cannot seem to
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: treat him like dandruff, you know, like, yeah, we were friends, but,
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: you know, he's gone his own way. He's no longer
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: a member of the Republican Party. He's been ostracized by Trump.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: Why this continued, almost like open friendship with him that
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: is not being received well by a lot of Republicans?
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: Well, first off, I think we need to put this
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: rumor to bed or just make the damn announcement and
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: get it over with. Curtis, are you taking over for
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: Caroline Leavitt or not?
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: No, but it might be Maria Bartolome after that announcement
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: that she's gone yesterday unexpectedly from Fox.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Could you imagine Curtis in that job? Could you imagine?
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: The reporters wouldn't get.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: A word in.
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: Not only that, but he would say, let me just
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: say this.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I totally disagree with the president on.
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: This one. That job would last a lot less than Scaramucci's.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: That's for sure.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: But why this obsession that J.D. Vance has in not
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: wanting to detach himself from Tucker Carlson?
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. J.D. Vance's son works for Carlson,
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: I believe. No, Carlson's son works in J.D.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: 's office.
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: So there's a family connection there, too. Now, with the
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: problems that Tucker Carlson, who has a big following, though,
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: by the way, but the problems that he has kind
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: of caused the Republicans and Trump, I don't know why
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: Trump hasn't pulled him in at one of these lunches
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: and said to J.D. Vance, you know, hey... What are
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: you doing here? But here's the but. Is there any
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: relationship that can't be repaired, i.e., Michael.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Cohen, Elon Musk?
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: I mean, does anyone not think that Tucker Carlson might
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: be speaking at the next convention or having a press conference.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Or something like that?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So– Hey, there was a really important meeting at the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: White House this week, and that was Donald Trump with
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the oil executives. I just went through the transcripts. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: didn't really read them thoroughly, but I went through just
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to see if it jumped out with the president putting
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: some pressure on them to bring down gas prices. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: didn't find anything right now, but I can't believe that's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: not happening.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Well, because the torture chamber is not in the Oval
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: Office downstairs in the White House where the Secret Service
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: took them and they were hooked up. You know, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: here's the other thing that the vice president yesterday, I think,
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: had an opportunity to kind of do. I mean, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: the headlines, the vice president says nobody cares. The administration
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: doesn't care about gas prices. Obviously, that's not true. I mean,
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: there's a real direct correlation with the American mood. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: obviously the way they might vote between gas prices and
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: how they'll vote. We've seen that when it goes down,
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: gas prices, the mood goes up, which is better for
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: the Republicans. It's just the opposite. So it's a real issue.
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: And it's one that I think they've got to not
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: only pay attention to, which they obviously are with the
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: oil executives there, but be very cognizant in every word
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: they say and not kind of blow it off, which
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: I don't think he really did. But that's how it
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: came across, at least, you know, in the headlines.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the gas prices are actually going
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to come down, and I think they're going to come
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: down for several reasons. That torture chamber might be reason
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: number one. I think there's going to be some heavy
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: pressure on the oil companies after all the things that
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has done for them.
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: I mean, think of this one thing. I mean, who
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: would the oil and gas industry prefer to be in charge?
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Republicans or Democrats who will go after them With a vengeance.
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, even if they've made a ton of profit
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: with oil price rises, they could eat some profit over
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: the next month or so to bring down gas. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: that would be to their own benefit. I mean, seriously,
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: you have to think about the long run. If I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: a CEO of a company, oil and gas.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good point. All right, well, appreciate it, Rob Astorino.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Again, catch him here at WOR this Saturday, 4 to 5.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Same time, same place next week. Rob, it'll be 9-11
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: and obviously a very solemn occasion.
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: Yep, yep. Have a wonderful weekend, guys.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: You too.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Well, a tale of two cities as you schlepped up
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: from the streets to the suites. And, Natalie, the tale
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: of two cities is, if you listen to the mayor
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: and police commissioner, we've never been safer than this. But
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: if you talk to people on the subways and streets,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: they're concerned about being pushed into subway tracks in front
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: of an oncoming train or being slashed or stabbed like, unfortunately,
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: the woman from New Jersey who's dead in Times Square.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the NYPD, right, saying it's the safest
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: summer on record in New York City. The report that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: made headlines came out after a spate of violence this week.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The biggest story online. A 49-year-old woman who stabbed two
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: people in Times Square, killing a 32-year-old mother who was
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just getting back to work after maternity leave. So, are
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: people really feeling secure?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's frightening.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Absolutely frightening. I'm scared to go down to 42nd Street
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: and I'm a native New Yorker. It's a city, so no,
• 27:43
  Speaker 12: I'm not surprised or shocked. I am hurt that there
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: are so many people with mental health problems. issues that
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: are not getting the support that they need. Again, there's
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: how many millions of people?
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: That was two people.
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: I just, I don't feel unsafe.
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: I don't think we have a mayor that cares about
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: its people. I think he had a great marketing campaign.
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: I don't think he's doing enough for the city.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Well, there were only 195 shootings from June 1st to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: August 31st, 32 fewer than the same stretch of time.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Last year, there were 66 murders. And Governor Hochul says
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: New York has marked an eight-month stretch of record low
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: gun violence. But, Curtis, as you pointed out just this week,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of these crimes are really being done with knives.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: We saw the woman with the two kitchen knives in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Times Square. We saw, as we know, your nephew stabbed
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: or cut up.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Box cut her. Box cut her. by St. Patrick's Cathedral.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: These are knife attacks happening.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Now, despite a drop in overall crime that New York
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: City or New York State says, the city has reported
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a rise in hate crimes.
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: I mean, hate crimes have been at an all-time high
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: for Jewish people, for all kinds of people in the city,
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: and I'm not okay with it. I was just in Italy,
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: felt safe walking home at 11 o'clock at night here.
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: I take a cab. So, I mean, our mayor... should
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: change what he's doing to make it safer here and
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: to not waste time on things that are not relevant.
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: And I really think that that's something to be changed.
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: And I think that the police should be respected here.
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: We need more cops, okay? We cannot get rid of
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: the cops. We have to have more policemen. And that's
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: how I really feel. And I think they're stupid to
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: say we don't need the cops.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, earlier this summer, Mayor Mamdani backed down from increasing
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the NYPD's headcount because of a $ 70 million price tag
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that came with it. So, okay, no bump in the ranks,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: but are we doing enough as a city for mental
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: health patients or people experiencing mental health crises like the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: woman who was running around Times Square with a pair
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of knives?
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: You know what?
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: I'm glad you asked that because, no, I think they
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: need to help the families and caretakers of people with
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: mental health issues because that's the thing. If they're over 18,
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: you can't do anything. Well, this is the result. This
• 30:00
  Speaker 13: is what happens. Can you imagine? She was probably soaked.
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: All those police officers I saw on TV, all those
• 30:07
  Speaker 13: police officers surrounding her, all those people, if her family
• 30:10
  Speaker 13: could have done things differently, I am sure they would have.
• 30:13
  Speaker 13: Could you imagine what they may have been experiencing at home?
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: A lot of people are crying out for help. A
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: lot of people, they don't know how to expound.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: They don't know how to explain their situation, you know?
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Well, Ike will say.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: The mental health issue is rampant here in New York
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: City in a sense of that. Just when I was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: doing man on the street, I have to say in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that time frame, maybe three or four people screaming on
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the street. It makes you look over your shoulder, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to make sure nobody's truly coming at you. So there
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: are these things that, yes, stats show different numbers. But
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: when you're on the street, you're walking around. It's a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: little bit of a different feeling.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's mental health pinball sometimes. When you're walking,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you just want to keep avoiding people that are talking
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: to themselves or are crazy or yelling out. It's constantly
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: because you don't know when they're going to go off.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And they constantly go off. You have a couple of
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: examples that you just talked about in your piece. No,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel that way on the streets. No, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an update on my nephew. He was
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: slashed and stabbed on that same day. As the woman
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: was killed in Times Square a few hours later in
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: front of St. Pat's and across some sacks, they caught
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the individual up in Summers, New York, the New York
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: State troopers. They brought him back for arraignment in Manhattan.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: He was charged with felony assault, a bail of $ 100, 000, right?
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: And he made it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: So now it goes to a grand jury. But my
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: nephew is home. He's recovering. It'll be a long recovering.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: But again. It's slashings. It's stabbings. In this case, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: don't think it's an emotionally disturbed person.
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: I don't.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: But to be continued. Let me tell you, next week,
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Natalie will be back at 7.50 with a special series
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: on stories about September 11th, 25 years later. So I
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: do appreciate all the hard work you're putting into this, Natalie.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: And up next, maybe it's time to get a press
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: secretary who can stay on message because Vice President Vance
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: was trying out for the 2028 election and not necessarily
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: to be the spokesperson for Trump.