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- 1:52Speaker 1: All right, let's jump on. In West Virginia Cincinnati. They
- 1:57Speaker 1: were coming at each other man like two trains barreling
- 2:03Speaker 1: toward each other. Same set up for both of these teams.
- 2:07Speaker 1: They both were being implored to return to the defensive
- 2:13Speaker 1: efficiency that you had shown earlier this season. We anticipated
- 2:18Speaker 1: a foul fest, but it didn't turn out to be
- 2:21Speaker 1: a foul fest. It did not turned out to be
- 2:23Speaker 1: a foul fest. We only had eighteen foul shots the
- 2:28Speaker 1: entire game. There's a whole other side angle to that.
- 2:31Speaker 1: You know why, Why Because we had adult officials. We
- 2:35Speaker 1: had adult officials, and you know what they did. They
- 2:39Speaker 1: adjudicated the game fairly. Didn't go to the replay monitors
- 2:42Speaker 1: seven times for seven minutes of top pop, didn't get
- 2:45Speaker 1: go to there once.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Not once.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I said, not once, because you had you had a
- 2:49Speaker 1: Sunday crew of officials eighteen, not the deluted Saturday. Okay,
- 2:56Speaker 1: it helps a ton. Mountaineers went also let a lot go. Well, yeah,
- 3:01Speaker 1: it's fine.
- 3:02Speaker 2: It worked out in Western's favorite. But there were there
- 3:04Speaker 2: was a lot of contact.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you gotta you gotta play, you gotta play.
- 3:09Speaker 1: It's fine as long as it's consistent.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Right.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I mean I thought it
- 3:12Speaker 2: was good. Whistle, there was a lot of contact.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Wasn't called, Well, there's holding on every play. We know that.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Yeah, man, let them go sixty three to fifty pass.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Interferance and everyone getting knocked down three or four times.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I didn't make that hoppy or I could have called
- 3:24Speaker 1: a couple of those, but anyway, you move on. Very
- 3:27Speaker 1: rarely does the other team make more file shots than
- 3:30Speaker 1: you try. But it was almost two to one. Cincinnata
- 3:34Speaker 1: made eleven. West Virginia only attempted six. Very rarely does
- 3:37Speaker 1: that happen. But instead, why did it happen? That's what
- 3:39Speaker 1: we will break down. We are home. It's the third
- 3:44Speaker 1: day of February, and that means that West Virginia goes
- 3:48Speaker 1: right back out on the road. They broke this road
- 3:51Speaker 1: trip up in two came back in last night, so
- 3:53Speaker 1: you don't go back out. You could have gone from
- 3:55Speaker 1: Cincinnati to Texas. But then you kind of become like
- 3:59Speaker 1: those bananas you know, you know, you go go to
- 4:02Speaker 1: the grocery store, right yeah, and like you get all
- 4:04Speaker 1: the fresh bananas up top there, and then they they
- 4:07Speaker 1: like individually like put the other ones off to the
- 4:09Speaker 1: side that are getting more ripe. It happens sometimes when
- 4:12Speaker 1: you when you stay on the road too long, you
- 4:13Speaker 1: get kind of push off, you soft, You're not like
- 4:18Speaker 1: I like this a lot.
- 4:19Speaker 3: Okay, they're back home last night, six thirty, no night
- 4:22Speaker 3: before last.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Yeah, last night, last night. So you sleep Monday night,
- 4:27Speaker 1: you sleep, you sleep Sunday night in your bed. You
- 4:29Speaker 1: sleep Monday night in your bed. You go back out Tuesday.
- 4:30Speaker 1: It's fine, it's good. It's a good way to do
- 4:32Speaker 1: it anyway. So we'll get into that. Also, the World
- 4:35Speaker 1: champion WV women, they might I mean there could be
- 4:40Speaker 1: charges filed against the DOUBLEV women's basketball program. Excuse me, Yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 1: Strangulation of Oklahoma State twenty one percent is what the
- 4:50Speaker 1: Lady Cowgirls shot against West Virginia and said that's twenty
- 4:54Speaker 1: one percent.
- 4:55Speaker 3: That's one of five, who's not good?
- 4:58Speaker 1: Eleven of fifty two, oh old pouch and from three
- 5:02Speaker 1: to do the three point number two of twenty three, hoppy,
- 5:06Speaker 1: that would be eight point seven percent.
- 5:08Speaker 3: That's not gonna win with that.
- 5:09Speaker 1: No, no, and again kind of similar in the file
- 5:14Speaker 1: shots stuff. West Virginia only took fifteen of them, and
- 5:21Speaker 1: or West Virginia took fourteen and Oklahoma State made thirteen.
- 5:25Speaker 1: So but West Virginia just that was good. That was
- 5:27Speaker 1: a good win.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Twenty one turnovers for the Cowgirls.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Yeah, points off turnovers. That was kind of wild. Seventeen
- 5:33Speaker 1: fourteen was relatively close, but anyway, West Virginia needed that
- 5:36Speaker 1: because they lost against a good Oklahoma State team in Stillwater.
- 5:40Speaker 1: All right, so let's jump over to the men's side.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Crowd listed of over eleven thousand on hand, first time
- 5:47Speaker 1: West Virginia wins there in fourteen years. Really, Yeah, you
- 5:51Speaker 1: gotta remember we weren't in the labor of the first
- 5:53Speaker 1: stretch there, but only had one had only won once
- 5:57Speaker 1: inside fifth third arena, one in four all time against
- 6:02Speaker 1: the Bearcats, and they knew it was a huge game.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Cincinnati knew it. You could feel it. Brad. We talked
- 6:08Speaker 1: with a bunch of folks. We got there early, talked
- 6:10Speaker 1: to a bunch of Cincinnati people, So, okay, give us
- 6:12Speaker 1: a deal. What are you think and what do you think?
- 6:13Speaker 1: And I said, this team has been called out on
- 6:17Speaker 1: the hardwood. I mean they have told in no uncertain
- 6:21Speaker 1: terms like this is it. And West Virginia came out
- 6:26Speaker 1: and hit them or right in the mouth, controlled the
- 6:28Speaker 1: entire game. Yeah, start to finish.
- 6:31Speaker 3: So a couple of things. One is that sports is
- 6:38Speaker 3: tough because with events, you're either labeled as a success
- 6:42Speaker 3: or a failure, even though when you come up short
- 6:46Speaker 3: and lose, you haven't completely failed necessarily because there might
- 6:49Speaker 3: be some good things there. But West Virginia was failing
- 6:53Speaker 3: over the last couple of games to put together the
- 6:55Speaker 3: complete game. And then they went to Cincinnati on the
- 6:58Speaker 3: road and again the team that was also dangerous and desperate,
- 7:02Speaker 3: and you put together a more complete performance in that game.
- 7:07Speaker 1: The shooting was back.
- 7:08Speaker 3: You shot fifty percent from three, almost fifty percent overall.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Javon was back nineteen points, Joe Yesufu sixteen points in
- 7:18Speaker 3: fifteen minutes off the bench, points in the paint, good defense.
- 7:22Speaker 3: So the things that you know, Brad, you knew that
- 7:24Speaker 3: this team could do but had trouble stringing together an
- 7:28Speaker 3: entire game. They put it together. And I think that's
- 7:31Speaker 3: the sign of a promising team to be able to
- 7:34Speaker 3: do that. It wasn't luck, it wasn't fluky, it was
- 7:37Speaker 3: oh okay, they're playing now like they had been and
- 7:40Speaker 3: took care of business.
- 7:41Speaker 2: That's why we say things are a week to week
- 7:43Speaker 2: business or in basketball, a game to game business. It's
- 7:46Speaker 2: not going to continue in one direction necessarily, and it's
- 7:49Speaker 2: not going to be that good or bad. And I
- 7:51Speaker 2: think you saw West Virginia with three straight games where
- 7:53Speaker 2: it struggled shoot the ball. You knew that was going
- 7:55Speaker 2: to change. And I'll get into some reasons why, but yeah,
- 7:58Speaker 2: West Virginia was apps ssolutely elite defensively and extremely good offensively. Yes,
- 8:04Speaker 2: sing you do that and you come with intensity, you're
- 8:07Speaker 2: probably gonna have a good result. That was an excellent
- 8:09Speaker 2: bounce back in a game that West Virginia had to
- 8:11Speaker 2: have between you're right, guys, two desperate teams. West Virginia
- 8:15Speaker 2: came out and just took that game.
- 8:16Speaker 3: And I think too, you keep yourself. You're right now
- 8:19Speaker 3: in the middle of the big twelve, and you want
- 8:21Speaker 3: to be in that lower end of the upper part, right,
- 8:25Speaker 3: And you got a chance now with TCU coming up
- 8:27Speaker 3: and Utah to move up just a little bit and
- 8:31Speaker 3: move them down, So you want to be in that.
- 8:33Speaker 3: You don't have to be at the top. You're not
- 8:35Speaker 3: going to be at the top, but can you be
- 8:36Speaker 3: in the bottom of the upper tier, right, I think
- 8:39Speaker 3: that's where that would be a great success story if
- 8:41Speaker 3: you could do that.
- 8:42Speaker 2: I said going into this four game stretch. I said
- 8:44Speaker 2: it back on Thursday. I thought this was an important
- 8:46Speaker 2: four games coming up for West Virginia as it relates
- 8:49Speaker 2: to postseason opportunity, And I think getting that first one
- 8:52Speaker 2: on the road is massively critical because now you had
- 8:56Speaker 2: to TCU and not necessarily house money. But I think
- 9:00Speaker 2: I think you go in and can play it a
- 9:01Speaker 2: little lighter and freer. Had you gone on with four
- 9:04Speaker 2: straight losses heading to a difficult place to play, I
- 9:06Speaker 2: think you get some tightness in there. If you're West Virginia.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Now you go out and you say, listen, guys, we've
- 9:10Speaker 2: strung together a great game at Cincinnati. Some good halves
- 9:14Speaker 2: prior to that. We're close here. Let's just keep coming
- 9:17Speaker 2: and that's another gettable road win. I don't know that
- 9:19Speaker 2: you will, but it's a gettable road win, and I
- 9:21Speaker 2: think you're going in playing loose and free. West Virginia
- 9:24Speaker 2: on the road continues to impress me. Guys. Three of
- 9:26Speaker 2: its five conference wins now have come away from the coliseum.
- 9:30Speaker 2: There's seven teams in this league right now with a
- 9:32Speaker 2: better conference record than West Virginia, and only three of
- 9:36Speaker 2: those seven have more conference road wins than West Virginia.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Could you say again, there's seven teams in this league
- 9:42Speaker 2: with better conference records than West Virginia. Overall, only three
- 9:46Speaker 2: of those seven have more conference road wins than West
- 9:49Speaker 2: Virginia does, Houston, Texas Tech, and Arizona. That's pretty impressive.
- 9:54Speaker 2: As we roll into February here, West Virginia getting it
- 9:57Speaker 2: done on the road and got another opportunity coming up
- 9:59Speaker 2: this week.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Canon, you can't overstate the significance of that victory
- 10:06Speaker 1: for West Virginia. As you said, you lose that game
- 10:09Speaker 1: and mentally this funk will will just cover you up.
- 10:13Speaker 1: You had lost four games in everyone gets just tight.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I think this coaching staff just did a perfect job
- 10:20Speaker 1: of keeping these guys lined up, explaining to them what
- 10:24Speaker 1: it was going to take, and credit the players that
- 10:27Speaker 1: they listened, that they listened. They finally took them. It
- 10:31Speaker 1: took them the performance against k State, and it took
- 10:33Speaker 1: them go back to that Arizona State game. It took
- 10:36Speaker 1: them that in Houston for that matter, that they just
- 10:39Speaker 1: didn't I think, completely realize how significant that their play
- 10:46Speaker 1: on the defensive end leads to the entire operation of
- 10:50Speaker 1: their team. I think they've got that message now loud
- 10:53Speaker 1: and clear. I would be surprised if they have halves
- 10:57Speaker 1: anymore where they're just not in a fury defensive way.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Well, you saw the evidence. It's it is really helpful
- 11:06Speaker 3: when everything the coaches are preaching, you see the result.
- 11:10Speaker 3: West Virginia had not been there defensively for a couple
- 11:13Speaker 3: of games, and when they were for the totality of
- 11:16Speaker 3: the game, you see the results. So that reinforces the
- 11:17Speaker 3: message that they said. And also the fact that that
- 11:20Speaker 3: that deree said something interesting. He said it talked about
- 11:24Speaker 3: yes tofu that that gave us, he said a huge spark.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And that other scorer that they haven't that they haven't
- 11:34Speaker 3: had right, So they've always looked for it. Usually you
- 11:36Speaker 3: can count on Javon, maybe somebody else is gonna but
- 11:39Speaker 3: who else is going to do something? And yes, Tofu
- 11:42Speaker 3: was the guy that did something. It was a huge spark.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've had when they win, that's what they've had.
- 11:46Speaker 2: And a couple of games it's been Joe against Colorado.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Was Joe, sometimes been Jonathan Palace, sometimes been a money
- 11:50Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know that there can be a
- 11:52Speaker 2: game where you only have one score and in West
- 11:54Speaker 2: Range wins, there's been a second person emerged. I thought, Tony,
- 11:57Speaker 2: to your point coaching wise, that this was a really
- 12:00Speaker 2: good job by this staff after losing three straight. This
- 12:04Speaker 2: wasn't a doom and gloom the season's over, Oh my god,
- 12:07Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? This was an upbeat practice
- 12:11Speaker 2: session over the last few days, like, okay, guys, here,
- 12:13Speaker 2: here's what we're telling you you have to do to win.
- 12:15Speaker 2: You go out and do it, and we're gonna win games.
- 12:17Speaker 2: And it was get back to work. It wasn't moping around,
- 12:19Speaker 2: eoring around that everything's coming apart on you. It was
- 12:23Speaker 2: just get back to work. And then I thought Saturday
- 12:25Speaker 2: or Sunday yesterday was as good a job of game
- 12:28Speaker 2: planning and then executing the game plan as we've seen.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Here's what I mean by that'll goal offense and defense
- 12:33Speaker 2: defensively oread No, not stats yet, this is just overall philosophy.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Then we'll get into some appetizer. No, just philosophy of
- 12:41Speaker 2: the game. West Virginia's staff went into this one saying
- 12:45Speaker 2: to the guys defensively, do not allow lobs to them.
- 12:48Speaker 2: They are gonna look to lob everything. This was a
- 12:51Speaker 2: Cincinnati team that wants to get out and run in
- 12:53Speaker 2: transition to get points, and it wants to lob in
- 12:56Speaker 2: the half court, run, pick and roll and throw it
- 12:58Speaker 2: up to their big athletic guys at them, and they've
- 13:00Speaker 2: had success doing that. And the thought was if you
- 13:03Speaker 2: could close those avenues off, specifically the lobs, and force
- 13:07Speaker 2: his team to shoot, they were probably going to struggle.
- 13:09Speaker 2: They have not shot the ball well. Cincinnati hasn't zero
- 13:12Speaker 2: lobbs in the first half, only two all game. And
- 13:15Speaker 2: it just wasn't there, guys. I mean, as soon as
- 13:18Speaker 2: soon as they came off a ball screen and that
- 13:21Speaker 2: big that was at the free throw line dove to
- 13:23Speaker 2: the rim, there was somebody attached to that person, and
- 13:27Speaker 2: that was the preaching. All practice Long, all walked through
- 13:30Speaker 2: Long watched the Lob. Watch the Lob, watch the Lob,
- 13:32Speaker 2: and West Virginia watched the Lob and it effectively shut
- 13:35Speaker 2: down that Cincinnati offense, made them jump shooters, which is
- 13:38Speaker 2: not where they want to be, and you saw the result.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I thought game plan was excellent, execution was superb, and
- 13:44Speaker 2: on the other end, honestly, I'm I'm not sure what
- 13:48Speaker 2: Cincinnati's game plan was defensively, but Javon had to feel
- 13:52Speaker 2: like he was playing against air. All due respect to
- 13:55Speaker 2: Cincinnati's guys for some reason, Hop, that's the one team
- 13:58Speaker 2: that hasn't tried to double Javon off the ball at
- 14:01Speaker 2: the top of the key except late in the game.
- 14:03Speaker 2: They started going to it late in the game, but
- 14:05Speaker 2: it was too late by then. That first half, he
- 14:07Speaker 2: was getting whatever he wanted and it's one of the
- 14:09Speaker 2: weird stats of the game. Javon finished with nineteen in
- 14:12Speaker 2: a season high nine assists. Hop I thought he might
- 14:14Speaker 2: have had forty three points. It felt like he was
- 14:17Speaker 2: just scoring it.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Well.
- 14:17Speaker 2: I really thought he had more than total control, total
- 14:20Speaker 2: control of that game. I mean, he was shaking people,
- 14:22Speaker 2: making guys stumble. It didn't matter who you put on him,
- 14:25Speaker 2: big forward, small guard, either guard. Bring a guy off
- 14:28Speaker 2: the bench, bring somebody in from the stands. They had
- 14:30Speaker 2: no answer for Javon, and I can't, for the life
- 14:32Speaker 2: of me, figure out why they tried to defend him
- 14:35Speaker 2: the way they did. I think it cost him the game.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to single cover West Virginia
- 14:39Speaker 2: with him, best of luck. Now late steak, best of luck.
- 14:42Speaker 1: It's a late steak. What do you mean, what do
- 14:44Speaker 1: you mean, well, late steak? Well, he and now we
- 14:47Speaker 1: went and got ice cream late Saturday night. We're walking
- 14:50Speaker 1: back to the hotel. There's a really nice steak place
- 14:53Speaker 1: in the hotel. We walked and looked through the window
- 14:55Speaker 1: at the steak place. Javon was in there with his
- 14:58Speaker 1: mom having a steak, pretty late, right for I was
- 15:01Speaker 1: nine thirty.
- 15:02Speaker 2: We almost circled back. We had already had dinner, we
- 15:04Speaker 2: had ice cream. We almost there was a discussion from
- 15:07Speaker 2: the two of us. I said, it sounds where it's
- 15:09Speaker 2: about ten thirty.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I'd go in.
- 15:10Speaker 2: I had a full steak, baked potato.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Right now, laatee steak. So he needs to have.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Got me seats with you were coming in. We get
- 15:16Speaker 2: get a big I think the late steak did it.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Also, I could tell that they were going to really
- 15:20Speaker 1: guard from the start of this game because Saturday night
- 15:23Speaker 1: and our first of several meals with the team. This
- 15:26Speaker 1: was the team meal. We're sitting next to the guys.
- 15:30Speaker 1: The majority of the players were at a table and
- 15:32Speaker 1: they were needling Sincere Harris about his defense, saying like, yo, man,
- 15:38Speaker 1: you can't be second half Sincere defensively, we need you
- 15:42Speaker 1: from the opening tip and you're just just just poking.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I'm just poking. He's just poking.
- 15:47Speaker 2: He was great, gotcha, Yeah, okay, is that right?
- 15:49Speaker 3: Oh?
- 15:49Speaker 1: You were okay, that's fine, that's fine. So I knew
- 15:52Speaker 1: at the start of the game that he was going
- 15:53Speaker 1: to go like, okay, let's go, let's bring it, and
- 15:55Speaker 1: so that set the table.
- 15:57Speaker 2: He lined up held Gizsel James to oh eight from
- 16:00Speaker 2: the field and one assist. James came in averaging eleven points.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Since here gave you four steals and a massive block.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Jen Greeney, the volleyball coach, needs to talk to him
- 16:10Speaker 1: because he took that ball. He just I'm not sure
- 16:13Speaker 1: if he used his fist or whatever. He just spiked
- 16:16Speaker 1: it down out of the floor, which is what you
- 16:18Speaker 1: gotta have, right, Guys have to do what they do,
- 16:20Speaker 1: and that's what he does. Yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 2: It was a really good win, really impressive on both ends,
- 16:25Speaker 2: and like I said, just controlled that game from the
- 16:27Speaker 2: very start. Cincinnati did a nice job making a little
- 16:29Speaker 2: bit of run there in the second half, but never
- 16:32Speaker 2: never a threat.
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- 21:38Speaker 1: No, it didn't. All right, jump in. Why was West
- 21:41Speaker 1: Virginia successful?
- 21:42Speaker 2: Well, I just went through most of it or some
- 21:45Speaker 2: of it. The defense and offensive strategies were great. But
- 21:47Speaker 2: how about offense for just a second. I know it's
- 21:50Speaker 2: it's keyed by the defense, and I think we know
- 21:52Speaker 2: that by now. But this team, when it's going to
- 21:54Speaker 2: make nine threes first and foremost, you're ten and two
- 21:57Speaker 2: when you make nine or more threes. So that's a
- 21:59Speaker 2: good So fifty percent from three point land number one,
- 22:03Speaker 2: But how about you also got forty eight percent of
- 22:05Speaker 2: your points in the lane. You were just scoring everywhere
- 22:08Speaker 2: on them. And we saw some of that. Remember we
- 22:10Speaker 2: talked to Darren coming out of that Houston game. I
- 22:12Speaker 2: thought maybe they had found something offensively that would be
- 22:14Speaker 2: a problem for other teams going forward. That if you
- 22:17Speaker 2: wanted to try and get the ball out of Javon's
- 22:19Speaker 2: hands and switch it, you were going to have a mismatch. Well,
- 22:22Speaker 2: Cincinnati tried that too. They tried to switch their bigs
- 22:24Speaker 2: out a couple of times, and West Virginia again immediately
- 22:27Speaker 2: recognizes it, attacks inside and guys went to work in
- 22:31Speaker 2: the basket.
- 22:31Speaker 1: So Hansbury two occasions at least had a guard guardian hand.
- 22:34Speaker 1: He posts them up, scores it off the block. Bingo.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just thought that was critical. And one
- 22:39Speaker 2: of my keys to the game Tony, when we were
- 22:40Speaker 2: talking before the game, was which every team controlled the
- 22:43Speaker 2: paint better was likely going to win that game. West
- 22:46Speaker 2: Virginia comes out of their plus eight points in the paint.
- 22:49Speaker 2: How about that guy, just stop that for a second
- 22:51Speaker 2: for where this team was offensively. It won the points
- 22:55Speaker 2: in the paint off a team that that's what that
- 22:57Speaker 2: team wants to do. It wants to get to the
- 22:59Speaker 2: basket and get to the rims specifically, and West Virginia
- 23:02Speaker 2: closed it off defensively and then took advantage of it offensively.
- 23:05Speaker 2: I thought that was tremendous. Western yal also was seven
- 23:08Speaker 2: blocks in the game, which was fantastic. So you held
- 23:13Speaker 2: them non existent lobs zero in the first half two
- 23:17Speaker 2: in the second half when that game was decided Cincinnata
- 23:20Speaker 2: just eight of seventeen at the rim. So the defensive
- 23:22Speaker 2: effort was really good. Points off turnovers plus seven points.
- 23:27Speaker 2: That was led by twelve steals from the Mountaineers. Again,
- 23:29Speaker 2: their steel rate is incredible. They jumped those passing lanes
- 23:34Speaker 2: tremendously well.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Did Jonathan Powell have a steal?
- 23:36Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to JP here in just a second,
- 23:38Speaker 2: because that was a great pick one point one to
- 23:41Speaker 2: three points per possession off live ball turnovers, and they
- 23:44Speaker 2: hit sixty four percent from the field from two point
- 23:47Speaker 2: land off of those live ball turnovers, so very effective
- 23:51Speaker 2: on that part of it. Let's talk about some of
- 23:53Speaker 2: those individual performances. Jonathan Powell was one of them. You
- 23:56Speaker 2: mentioned that pick six an Tony. We had a great
- 23:59Speaker 2: view of that hop. It was down to our right
- 24:01Speaker 2: and you could see the ball was in the near
- 24:04Speaker 2: corner to us, closest to the benches, and as soon
- 24:06Speaker 2: as the Cincinnati player looked cross court and got ready
- 24:10Speaker 2: to throw it, pal took off in a sprint. Like
- 24:13Speaker 2: you talked about jumping a route as a defensive back.
- 24:16Speaker 2: He jumped the route, picked it, and then finished with
- 24:18Speaker 2: a dunk and I thought his defensive performance is probably
- 24:22Speaker 2: an underrated aspect of that game. Normally when we talk
- 24:25Speaker 2: about JP were saying, hey, you see had three or
- 24:27Speaker 2: four threes and that really opened up the offense. I thought, guys,
- 24:31Speaker 2: it was his defense yesterday. It was really critical, not
- 24:35Speaker 2: just that pick six, but he held Lacocius, one of
- 24:38Speaker 2: their really good shooters, to just eight points, and guys,
- 24:42Speaker 2: five of those points came from the free throw line.
- 24:44Speaker 2: He and essence shut him down there. He was giving
- 24:46Speaker 2: up a couple of inches and just absolutely guarded him
- 24:49Speaker 2: tremendously well. He also was big on the glass. Four
- 24:52Speaker 2: total rebounds for JP. That's four rebounds in three of
- 24:55Speaker 2: the last four games. It's given you a second rebounder.
- 24:58Speaker 2: And he had that massive offensive rebound late that bled
- 25:01Speaker 2: some more clocks. So I thought an underrated game because
- 25:04Speaker 2: he didn't score as much as we've seen him in
- 25:06Speaker 2: past games. But I thought JP was tremendous.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so. I thought so as well. Something's
- 25:11Speaker 1: up with Cincinnati, and I know West Virginia still has
- 25:13Speaker 1: to play them, but I mean that is the same
- 25:16Speaker 1: exact team that West Virginia saw a year ago. That's
- 25:20Speaker 1: why they were so highly thought of in the preseason.
- 25:23Speaker 1: It's the same dudes. It's Bendego, it's now it's Dylan Mitchell, Skillings, Skillings,
- 25:31Speaker 1: I mean, it's Lucocious, it's Day Day Thomas, it's Gisel James.
- 25:35Speaker 1: They're all back. That team blowed West Virginia out at
- 25:40Speaker 1: Cincinnati last year. Thirty plus laughed at him, I mean,
- 25:44Speaker 1: just just crushed him. Something's there's I don't know what
- 25:48Speaker 1: it is, but that they shouldn't be playing like that.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Now they can keep playing like that. I don't mind whatever,
- 25:54Speaker 1: but definitely play like that when they come back here.
- 25:55Speaker 1: But something's up there. Something's up there. I just thought
- 25:58Speaker 1: it was surprising.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Well, stay like that, yeah, when you get them back here,
- 26:02Speaker 2: because that'd be a nice one to get a win.
- 26:04Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll get a better effort, I would think. Again,
- 26:07Speaker 2: first and foremost, they'll change their defensive approach, I would think,
- 26:09Speaker 2: because I just I still am not sure what was happening.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Some other numbers that I dug into this morning as
- 26:16Speaker 2: it relates to the net. Now, this isn't updated as
- 26:19Speaker 2: it might be updated now. It wasn't this morning as
- 26:21Speaker 2: I looked at this, but I found this of interest
- 26:23Speaker 2: ready for this. It's only nine teams with more Quad
- 26:29Speaker 2: one wins than West Virginia, and I think it got
- 26:31Speaker 2: one yesterday, right Quad one Roji, which could be big.
- 26:36Speaker 2: There's only twelve teams ranked ahead of West Virginia in
- 26:40Speaker 2: the NET, and again it was from Saturday, so it
- 26:42Speaker 2: was a little bit delayed. Only twelve teams that are
- 26:44Speaker 2: ranked ahead of West Virginia have played fewer Quad three
- 26:48Speaker 2: and Quad four. So we talk about this West Virginia resume.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It's winning Quad one at a top ten rate and
- 26:55Speaker 2: it's playing fewer Quad three and Quad four than most
- 26:59Speaker 2: of the teams ranked ahead of it. That's a good combination.
- 27:03Speaker 2: It's got five wins away from home. Only Houston, Iowa State,
- 27:08Speaker 2: and Texas Tech have more among Big twelve teams, and
- 27:11Speaker 2: they only have one more than West Virginia. So hop
- 27:13Speaker 2: when I say away from home, I mean neutral site
- 27:16Speaker 2: or away games. Here might be the one thing that's
- 27:19Speaker 2: keeping West Virginia suppressed a little bit in the net.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Given how good this resume is. There's twenty four teams
- 27:25Speaker 2: ranked above West Virginia and the NET that have more
- 27:27Speaker 2: wins away from home. That surprised me a little bit.
- 27:30Speaker 2: That there'd be that many teams above. So West Virginia again,
- 27:34Speaker 2: I say that because the resume continues to build itself out,
- 27:38Speaker 2: and you've still got some time and you've got some
- 27:40Speaker 2: significant work to do. But if you start at this
- 27:42Speaker 2: time of year to have an eye towards the playoffs,
- 27:47Speaker 2: the Champions Tournament, you're positioning yourself pretty well.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Ken Palm has West Virginia at forty three and Kansas
- 27:58Speaker 3: Kansas is at ten.
- 28:01Speaker 2: The computers love Kansas ten, the analytics love Kansas.
- 28:05Speaker 1: What a weekend in the league.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, crazy five road teams win and that Houston,
- 28:12Speaker 4: Texas Tech game is an all time all timer for
- 28:16Speaker 4: what transpired in that game, the ejection of Grant McCaslin,
- 28:20Speaker 4: the ejection of topping.
- 28:21Speaker 1: They were already playing with another guy who was out
- 28:23Speaker 1: with an injury. For them to go in there and
- 28:26Speaker 1: do that, oh well, you could see Houston was bendy, right,
- 28:30Speaker 1: I mean like he West Virginia as bad as it
- 28:32Speaker 1: played in the first half.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Escape to UCF yeah right, escaped Kansas, yeah, And West
- 28:37Speaker 2: Virginia had him on the ropes for a half. If
- 28:39Speaker 2: it'd played it all in the first half, that they're
- 28:41Speaker 2: we're in trouble here in the coliseum. Yeah, they were
- 28:43Speaker 2: flirting with disaster.
- 28:44Speaker 3: But that Kansas Baylor.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Game twenty one points, biggest, biggest blown lead in school history. Wow,
- 28:52Speaker 1: those Kansas fans have got to be losing their noodles.
- 28:56Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, welcome back. You're playing Iowa
- 28:58Speaker 2: State tonight. I know both of those teams, so i
- 29:01Speaker 2: was State, it's another team desperate for a win.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Yeah, so as bad as we felt last week after
- 29:05Speaker 1: the Kansas State loss, going like what, k State goes
- 29:09Speaker 1: up to Iowa State and absolutely Benny Hills them just
- 29:12Speaker 1: the right on the top.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Of that lined up, tweaked their nose, laughed at him.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, pulled like a the three stooges you know,
- 29:17Speaker 1: usually pick one pick poked him, pokem right now.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Yeah, lined up, just wiped them.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Out of the and then national, the big national story
- 29:25Speaker 3: which you may have heard about. It was mentioned a
- 29:27Speaker 3: time or two that North Carolina was a duke and
- 29:32Speaker 3: that was not even watchable. I mean, that wasn't even
- 29:35Speaker 3: a game.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Right, I don't know why that game was mentioned as
- 29:37Speaker 2: a national game. Well, I mean, what was the point
- 29:38Speaker 2: of a national game? There? Duke lined up beat a
- 29:40Speaker 2: non conference opponent by thirty What was the point? I mean,
- 29:42Speaker 2: get Caroline out here? Done talking about Carolina? Not a
- 29:44Speaker 2: blue blood lined up, got hammered, didn't compete, did not
- 29:48Speaker 2: I went in a national game. Get out here?
- 29:50Speaker 3: That was that? Like that was a thirty like a
- 29:51Speaker 3: thirty point game of the half or doubled up at
- 29:53Speaker 3: the half.
- 29:53Speaker 1: They tried so hard to blow that thing.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean enough enough. Move on, by
- 29:59Speaker 2: the way, shout out of a'mni Hansbury too big game?
- 30:01Speaker 2: Eleven rebounds. Yeah, he's back away on the glass again
- 30:04Speaker 2: giving up inches inside he was big on the boards.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so, so we'll see.
- 30:08Speaker 3: It's all about pride.
- 30:10Speaker 1: That's correct, It's all about pride.
- 30:12Speaker 2: So could I give another number?
- 30:14Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 30:15Speaker 2: I got two more. This was interesting. We've mentioned this
- 30:18Speaker 2: a bunch West Virginia yesterday with might be a season
- 30:26Speaker 2: high and big twelve play season high and big twelve
- 30:31Speaker 2: play and points after timeouts. There's a goodt mention that
- 30:36Speaker 2: a lot that you want you want the ball coming
- 30:38Speaker 2: out of a timeout. So Darren has a chance to
- 30:40Speaker 2: draw something up worked season high in points coming out
- 30:44Speaker 2: of timeouts. Here's the other one season I'm sorry, big
- 30:46Speaker 2: twelve high points after timeouts, season high in points coming
- 30:51Speaker 2: on the last four seconds of the shot clock. Really,
- 30:54Speaker 2: West Virginia was really effective there yesterday. And that's important
- 30:57Speaker 2: when you're winning hot because West Virginia is the second half.
- 31:00Speaker 2: And again we've seen that before. It's almost like a
- 31:03Speaker 2: football coach does sometimes, right when you get the lead,
- 31:06Speaker 2: you're just gonna sit on a little bit, like you
- 31:08Speaker 2: come and get it from us, because I'm not giving
- 31:10Speaker 2: it to you, right, And that's what Western He puts
- 31:12Speaker 2: up forty points in the first half, It scored what
- 31:15Speaker 2: forty eight against Houston, what was finally the teusday forty
- 31:17Speaker 2: eight forty nine points against Houston, put up forty in
- 31:20Speaker 2: the first half on Cincinnata and then just absolutely down shifted,
- 31:25Speaker 2: like going down the hill sometimes when it's a little
- 31:26Speaker 2: snowy hop you just downshift that thing. Down shift in
- 31:30Speaker 2: ja Is that right? Cincinnati, come on with it. We're
- 31:33Speaker 2: just gonna milk and bleed clock. And it led to
- 31:35Speaker 2: some ugly possessions, right. There were some times where Tony
- 31:38Speaker 2: and I looked at each other like that one very
- 31:40Speaker 2: ready over there.
- 31:41Speaker 3: They had a couple of long drive spills but.
- 31:43Speaker 2: One very efficient, but it was working that clock so much.
- 31:46Speaker 2: And then it ends up you did get some buckets
- 31:48Speaker 2: late in the shot clock there, which is doubly devastating
- 31:51Speaker 2: when you're trying to make a run. So overall, you
- 31:52Speaker 2: don't care what it looked like in the second half.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Prettiness wise, you got the win and you bled some clock.
- 31:57Speaker 2: But I thought that was a significant number most points
- 32:00Speaker 2: in the final four seconds of a shot clock, and
- 32:02Speaker 2: that kind of got you started to me. I don't
- 32:03Speaker 2: know when you what moment you went okay, this this
- 32:06Speaker 2: might be the day. But when Joe banged that first
- 32:09Speaker 2: one in with like one on the shot clock, kind
- 32:11Speaker 2: of went okay. That's always a good sign when that happens.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I felt good when I looked at their numbers at halftime.
- 32:16Speaker 1: They're one in seven when they trail at halftime, so
- 32:19Speaker 1: I said, okay, And then we just look at the
- 32:21Speaker 1: way I look at those games. When you have a
- 32:23Speaker 1: lead on the road and you're going, okay, what do
- 32:26Speaker 1: you need to do? It just goes in four minute chunks,
- 32:28Speaker 1: and after eight minutes the point differential that only changed
- 32:31Speaker 1: by one. I think it went from fifteen to fourteen.
- 32:33Speaker 1: I said Okay, that's really good. Now take the next
- 32:36Speaker 1: chunk and you'll be fine. And that's exactly what happened.
- 32:38Speaker 3: And it's so debilitating to the other team. If you
- 32:41Speaker 3: run that clock down, then score score eight. Yes, it's
- 32:45Speaker 3: like a lot of effort defensively, even though West Virginia
- 32:48Speaker 3: was trying a one o'clock. A lot of effort defensively
- 32:50Speaker 3: and you get nothing.
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- 34:08Speaker 1: what looks like a trunk, like literally like the size
- 34:11Speaker 1: of like a steamer trunk, and it's full of treats
- 34:16Speaker 1: really just like goodies, like everything and anything you could
- 34:19Speaker 1: ever imagine, like protein bars, potato chips, candy like everything.
- 34:25Speaker 1: So I walked by it the other night. I look
- 34:27Speaker 1: in there and just screaming at me, big old reces,
- 34:31Speaker 1: a big old rece like the cups were like a
- 34:33Speaker 1: pound and a half each. So I looked over and
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- 34:46Speaker 1: yelled across the room. I said, Yo, you want this
- 34:49Speaker 1: like a rabid dog, went on it, gun on it. Yeah,
- 34:53Speaker 1: took care of those.
- 34:54Speaker 3: You know. I'm just looking down ken palm and what Well,
- 35:01Speaker 3: go ahead. Well, I think it's worth noting how many
- 35:06Speaker 3: teams West Virginia is the kinds of teams West Virginia's
- 35:09Speaker 3: ahead of when you think about the transition, when you
- 35:13Speaker 3: think about what happened on this program for the last
- 35:15Speaker 3: two years and now you're more than halfway through the season,
- 35:19Speaker 3: and some of the schools that you're ahead of slightly,
- 35:24Speaker 3: but like who Hoppey Well, Nebraska, Penn State, Indiana, Villanova,
- 35:32Speaker 3: Arizona State, USC Cincinnata, Iowa, Kansas State, Rutgers, Wake Forest,
- 35:42Speaker 3: South Carolina, LSU, Providence, Stanford, TCU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Washington, Minnesota, Georgia.
- 35:53Speaker 3: I mean just a lot, I mean big programs, and
- 35:56Speaker 3: not all are these established annual Great basket Ball progress.
- 36:00Speaker 3: But still that's impressive. That's impressive when you consider where
- 36:04Speaker 3: you were and where you are right now.
- 36:07Speaker 1: It's it's as good as it possibly could be without
- 36:10Speaker 1: any question. And here's the good news about that, it's
- 36:13Speaker 1: only getting started. Like this is just the foundation being
- 36:18Speaker 1: put down right now here you go. It's coming.
- 36:22Speaker 2: It's it's February, guys, and you're solidly in the NCAA
- 36:25Speaker 2: tournament field as of today. Think about that from where
- 36:29Speaker 2: this program was over the last year and a half
- 36:32Speaker 2: and how much you had to battle through last year
- 36:34Speaker 2: and the uncertainty and just you know, the transient nature
- 36:37Speaker 2: of where the program was and bringing in an entire
- 36:40Speaker 2: new staff and an entire new roster and the wins
- 36:42Speaker 2: that this team has put together. And oh, by the way,
- 36:45Speaker 2: after missing one of your best players, if not your
- 36:47Speaker 2: best player in Tucker Debrieze, and we're solidly in the
- 36:50Speaker 2: NCAA tournament field a month ago, and you're you've played
- 36:54Speaker 2: your way in as we sit there today.
- 36:55Speaker 3: And you can go, you can go back farther than
- 36:57Speaker 3: a year and a half ago and look at the road,
- 36:59Speaker 3: look at road winds right, winning on the road to.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Over the previous three seasons coming into this area remarkable.
- 37:05Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason Darren one mid season National
- 37:07Speaker 2: Coach of the Year very deserved. She gets some Coach
- 37:11Speaker 2: of the Year votes. If this thing.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Continues breaking news you ready, Yes, the Nasmith Basketball Hall
- 37:18Speaker 1: of Fame today announced its top ten candidates for the
- 37:23Speaker 1: National point Guard of the Year, which is known as
- 37:25Speaker 1: the Bob Coosey Awards.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Well he better be on it.
- 37:30Speaker 1: West Virginia's Javon Small is on the list.
- 37:33Speaker 3: H yeah, thank you, good, thank you. Should be.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Keishawn Gilbert from I'm just looking at Big twelve players.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Keysheon Gilbert from Iowa State's on there and that's it
- 37:43Speaker 1: as far as the Big twelve goes. So that's pretty good,
- 37:48Speaker 1: pretty good. Ryan Nemhart Gonzaga who we played, saw him. Yeah,
- 37:55Speaker 1: congratulations to congratulations to him.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Just tremendous, keep rolling, keep rolling, and he's got a
- 38:02Speaker 2: legitimate case to win that thing.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do that all right. First to two
- 38:08Speaker 1: meetings with TCU will be played on Wednesday evening in
- 38:14Speaker 1: Fort Worth. Eight o'clock will be the tip off time
- 38:18Speaker 1: back here, seven o'clock there. Horn Frogs beat up on
- 38:23Speaker 1: Colorado at home on Sunday. What do we need to
- 38:27Speaker 1: know about Jamie Dixon squad interested in this matchup here?
- 38:31Speaker 1: What's that mean?
- 38:31Speaker 2: Well, we don't know what TCU is. I don't think
- 38:35Speaker 2: lost February lost four of six. You mentioned they won
- 38:38Speaker 2: on Sunday over Colorado at home. How about these conference
- 38:42Speaker 2: wins Baylor on the road BYU and k State. Those
- 38:47Speaker 2: are three nice wins. Just seven and four in the
- 38:51Speaker 2: non conference. Now they tested themselves. They had some pretty
- 38:53Speaker 2: decent games in there, just seven and four in the
- 38:55Speaker 2: non conference. Their best win was number forty eight in
- 38:58Speaker 2: the Ken Palm Xavier. Who's out of the tournament by
- 39:01Speaker 2: most prognostications?
- 39:03Speaker 1: Right now, where was that one? Was that neutral or
- 39:05Speaker 1: was that up Cincinnata?
- 39:06Speaker 2: I think was at home, but I'll go back and
- 39:08Speaker 2: look Perken Palm, TCU has the sixth best home court
- 39:14Speaker 2: advantage in the country, and that's just simply measured between
- 39:17Speaker 2: the difference between your home margins and your road margin.
- 39:20Speaker 2: So it's it's just an analytical number, hup. It's not
- 39:22Speaker 2: a determination on how the crowd is or how boisterous.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Although West Virginia is number one in that metric. Really yeah,
- 39:27Speaker 2: West Virginia's number one in that metric, TCU number six.
- 39:31Speaker 2: So that just shows that this is going to be
- 39:32Speaker 2: a difficult road game to head in there and try
- 39:34Speaker 2: and get it. They're struggling to shoot the ball. They're
- 39:36Speaker 2: kind of back to an old school Jamie Dixon pitt
- 39:40Speaker 2: TCU team. You know, they've had a few years, last
- 39:42Speaker 2: couple of years where they've been as fast as anybody
- 39:45Speaker 2: in the country. They race up and down the floor,
- 39:47Speaker 2: try and get transition buckets, and they scored at a
- 39:49Speaker 2: really high rate. They're kind of back to defense, offensive rebounding,
- 39:53Speaker 2: and maybe struggling to shoot it at times. This is
- 39:55Speaker 2: a bottom seventy team and three point field goal percentage,
- 39:58Speaker 2: it's a bottom one hundred team in two point field
- 40:01Speaker 2: goal percentage. They will get on the offensive glass, and
- 40:04Speaker 2: their top forty in defensive efficiency, so this will be
- 40:07Speaker 2: two very good defensive teams. We've mentioned West Virginia's defense.
- 40:11Speaker 2: It continues to be top twenty defensive efficiency in Ken Palm,
- 40:15Speaker 2: in fact, sitting number seventeen right now in the country,
- 40:18Speaker 2: number seventeen in the country if you go by Haslam
- 40:21Speaker 2: Metrics Eric Haslam another very good advanced to analytics stat
- 40:25Speaker 2: West Virginia ninth nationally. How about that a top ten
- 40:29Speaker 2: defensive efficiency by that metric. So big challenge coming in
- 40:33Speaker 2: front of you. But as I said, I think you
- 40:34Speaker 2: go in with some confidence in the ability to play
- 40:36Speaker 2: loose as you head into TCU and see if you
- 40:38Speaker 2: can get a win.
- 40:40Speaker 1: What's the key as a game plan for West Virginia.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Well, it starts what it always does. Can you bring
- 40:45Speaker 2: that intensity and guard and make a team that struggles
- 40:48Speaker 2: to shoot it struggle even more? TCU has been okay
- 40:52Speaker 2: in the turnover department, a top one hundred, so not elite,
- 40:55Speaker 2: but pretty good. Can you get them to turn it over?
- 40:57Speaker 2: Cincinnati had been a team that hadn't turned it over
- 41:00Speaker 2: lot in West Virginia had success doing it. So I
- 41:02Speaker 2: think he go in there and it's the same formula.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Make a few shots, find a second score to go
- 41:07Speaker 2: with Javon, and make sure you play some defense, keep
- 41:10Speaker 2: them off the offensive glass, and he got a chance.
- 41:13Speaker 1: You know. Ken Palm also has ratings for the referees.
- 41:17Speaker 3: Does he really?
- 41:18Speaker 1: No, he doesn't. You just go to Miscellany in the
- 41:22Speaker 1: top go to Miscellany. So yesterday's West Virginia game had
- 41:26Speaker 1: three Top twenty officials work in the game. You had six,
- 41:32Speaker 1: you had nine, and you had twenty. Number six, number
- 41:35Speaker 1: nine and number twenty make.
- 41:37Speaker 3: A difference, Tony. What makes for You've seen a million games.
- 41:41Speaker 3: What makes for a good official?
- 41:44Speaker 1: What makes for a good official is he's extremely communic
- 41:48Speaker 1: communicative with the head coach, and he explains situations, and
- 41:53Speaker 1: that means that he oftentimes diffuses a coach as the
- 41:58Speaker 1: game goes on, So it never built up. When you
- 42:01Speaker 1: have guys that refuse to explain and refuse to deal,
- 42:05Speaker 1: it's like anything else. You just keep boiling and boiling
- 42:09Speaker 1: and boiling and getting hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Like yesterday, for example, started the second half and I'm
- 42:14Speaker 1: not going to say which I guess I could say
- 42:16Speaker 1: which referee, Well, no, I won't to say which referee
- 42:18Speaker 1: it was. One of the officials comes over to Darren.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Darren didn't call him over anything that just before second
- 42:23Speaker 1: half started, and I'm close, I'm right there, and he said, hey,
- 42:27Speaker 1: I may have missed that one in the first half
- 42:29Speaker 1: when he explained the play to him, he goes, the
- 42:32Speaker 1: way I was looking at it, I didn't see that.
- 42:34Speaker 1: I may I could have missed that one. I just
- 42:36Speaker 1: wanted to let you know, well, dude, that just goes right.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Darren does a fabulous job with communicating with those dudes.
- 42:46Speaker 1: You can see it because a lot of those guys
- 42:48Speaker 1: were Missouri Valley Conference referees for years.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Still are yeah, still are.
- 42:53Speaker 1: So like every game, it's not like, hey, here's the
- 42:56Speaker 1: new guy. We don't know who this guy is, Like
- 42:58Speaker 1: they respect him already when the game starts, he respects them,
- 43:02Speaker 1: and so you don't have situations. But that to me
- 43:06Speaker 1: is guys, explain and once you explain it, like we
- 43:10Speaker 1: had an over and back. Don Day missed an over
- 43:12Speaker 1: and back in the Houston game here and he went
- 43:16Speaker 1: to Darren and he said, hey, man, I missed that. Okay,
- 43:20Speaker 1: you missed it right. And there's players that misplays, there's
- 43:23Speaker 1: referees misplays, and there's coaches that miss things during the
- 43:26Speaker 1: course of the game that they should do. Everyone gets
- 43:27Speaker 1: that part of it. But I think the answer your
- 43:29Speaker 1: question and a long answer. When you try to be
- 43:33Speaker 1: Johnny tough guy as a referee, it never ends. Well.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Really, here's the other thing I'll add, call the game.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Just call the game, see it. Don't anticipate a call,
- 43:42Speaker 2: don't go with a preconceived notion that how a team
- 43:44Speaker 2: plays so you're gonna call it. Just call the game
- 43:47Speaker 2: the way it unfolds. I do think the guys, for
- 43:50Speaker 2: the most part yesterday did that, and even though I
- 43:53Speaker 2: thought they missed a lot of contact at the rim
- 43:55Speaker 2: on shots. They were fairly consistent with that both ways.
- 43:59Speaker 2: So that's the other part. Call the game, call what
- 44:01Speaker 2: you see, no preconceived notions, and don't guess on a
- 44:04Speaker 2: call or think something's about to happen to make a
- 44:06Speaker 2: call number one, and then just call it the same way.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Don't change it halftime, don't change when the game gets close,
- 44:11Speaker 2: don't change based on the environment you're in, don't change
- 44:14Speaker 2: based on the other coach screaming at you. Just call
- 44:16Speaker 2: the game. So okay, So and I know that sounds simple.
- 44:19Speaker 2: That's what it should be every time. It's not always
- 44:21Speaker 2: the case. Just call the game.
- 44:22Speaker 3: So when there is, like in the Cincinnati game, a
- 44:26Speaker 3: lot of contact, but they're trying to keep it even, okay,
- 44:28Speaker 3: they're trying to call it equally, then when do you
- 44:31Speaker 3: call it? At what point is there.
- 44:33Speaker 1: A foul advantage disadvantage?
- 44:34Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's ultimately I do think that's the hardest
- 44:37Speaker 2: part of that. Because there is so much physicality in
- 44:39Speaker 2: this game. I think people be stunned if you haven't
- 44:41Speaker 2: sat up close and see it. There is grabbing, holding,
- 44:44Speaker 2: wrapping up constantly. It is a really physical game. But
- 44:47Speaker 2: You're right, you're trying to advantage disadvantage. Did you block
- 44:52Speaker 2: my path to the basket or my progress? Did you
- 44:55Speaker 2: alter my shot and I missed the shot because you
- 44:58Speaker 2: banged into me? That advantage advantage is the is what
- 45:01Speaker 2: they try and do.
- 45:02Speaker 1: So what to find that this he is is like,
- 45:05Speaker 1: did the did the contact cause a disadvantage? A significant
- 45:10Speaker 1: disadvantage for you to not be able to complete the play?
- 45:13Speaker 1: In other words, I'm going up for a shot. If
- 45:15Speaker 1: you whack my wrist and it altered the flight of
- 45:18Speaker 1: the ball, that's a disadvantage. That's a foul. However, if
- 45:22Speaker 1: I go up and it's not it's nothing is here,
- 45:24Speaker 1: but you like might have touched me like right here,
- 45:26Speaker 1: but it didn't cause you, then it's not an advantage disadvantage.
- 45:30Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do.
- 45:31Speaker 3: And I think what's tough for officials too, is that
- 45:35Speaker 3: if you have an exuberant, involved home crowd like West Virginia,
- 45:39Speaker 3: a lot of places you'll see contact against your guys.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Oh sure, and you why didn't you call that?
- 45:45Speaker 4: Well?
- 45:45Speaker 3: Because if they're doing their job, they're trying to keep
- 45:47Speaker 3: it equal and if it didn't affect the play, it's
- 45:50Speaker 3: just like, okay, they you know they bumped the guy.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Okay, right, there's that's there's something out there. They've done
- 45:56Speaker 1: research on this. If you're watching a boxing match and
- 45:59Speaker 1: you're for one particular boxer, you're rooting for that boxer,
- 46:03Speaker 1: you only see the punches that he connects with. You
- 46:07Speaker 1: do not see the punches that hit your guy that
- 46:09Speaker 1: you're rooting for. Really, yeah, we split it, and so
- 46:12Speaker 1: the same thing happens in basketball. You only see when
- 46:15Speaker 1: you get fouled. You don't see when you're fouling and
- 46:19Speaker 1: think it's the question. But one thing that has changed.
- 46:21Speaker 1: We talked about this after Saturday in the Houston, Texas
- 46:24Speaker 1: Tech game. They're Athletic Director Kirby Holcutt issued a w
- 46:29Speaker 1: cut hoh cut right, hohol cut without the L ho cut,
- 46:32Speaker 1: issued a statement and contacted the commissioner, Brett Yormark before
- 46:36Speaker 1: the game was over and put a social media post
- 46:39Speaker 1: out while the game was happening that I have contacted
- 46:42Speaker 1: the commissioner basically to get a further explanation on this
- 46:48Speaker 1: horrendous call which caused us to lose our coach. That's
- 46:51Speaker 1: while the game is going on. That stuff never used
- 46:54Speaker 1: to happen. Ads would not do that. But that has
- 46:57Speaker 1: changed that world, right, that has changed that This world
- 47:02Speaker 1: has changed because of that. I don't necessarily think it's good.
- 47:06Speaker 1: If it does lead to more accountability, that's good. But
- 47:09Speaker 1: they made an atrocious call by ejecting that player on
- 47:13Speaker 1: that call, which then led to Grant mccaslyn getting the boat. Horrific.
- 47:18Speaker 2: You know, it's part of why you know my stance
- 47:20Speaker 2: on this. I think it is fair game to analyze
- 47:23Speaker 2: officials hop I really do.
- 47:24Speaker 1: I don't.
- 47:25Speaker 2: It's a super tough job. And I think people that
- 47:27Speaker 2: scream at youth officials are ridiculous. And I think that
- 47:30Speaker 2: same at the high school level. There's a time and
- 47:32Speaker 2: a place, right, and you need officials or you don't
- 47:34Speaker 2: have the games and you need more young officials getting
- 47:36Speaker 2: in or there won't be officials going up. I think
- 47:38Speaker 2: at this college level, with hundreds of millions and billions
- 47:42Speaker 2: of dollars on the line, I think it's imperative that
- 47:44Speaker 2: they get it right and they're good. I think that's important.
- 47:47Speaker 2: That's why it's important to analyze and talk about this.
- 47:49Speaker 2: There's a lot at stake here, and officiating can change
- 47:53Speaker 2: or influence games in certain ways. It's important to have
- 47:56Speaker 2: good people doing it and to get it right.
- 47:58Speaker 3: You know, we've have said court side for the high
- 48:00Speaker 3: school tournaments, and those are the best officials in the
- 48:03Speaker 3: state who get high school games, high school championship games.
- 48:06Speaker 3: And boy, the fans you hear it behind us because
- 48:10Speaker 3: you're sitting their courtside. But you can see the game
- 48:14Speaker 3: and you know what, there's a foul called, and you
- 48:16Speaker 3: see you're watching the game and go, yeah, that's a
- 48:18Speaker 3: that's an obvious foul. They called a foul. And then
- 48:23Speaker 3: somebody that the team that got called for the foul,
- 48:25Speaker 3: the parent or fan is getting on them endlessly.
- 48:30Speaker 2: Well, now that you're retired, I'm gonna have you come
- 48:31Speaker 2: out to some youth games here in the next month
- 48:33Speaker 2: or so. You will be your jaw will drop parents
- 48:38Speaker 2: at youth events with thefstiles. Really, you would be startled.
- 48:43Speaker 2: Have you come out, I'll wte you got.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Time, all right, I'll come in you ready to do this.
- 48:47Speaker 2: I might be the one yell them what do you mean.
- 48:53Speaker 1: As a recidivist? Bad parent? Do not? I'll stop all
- 48:57Speaker 1: comments me a while to learn that. In this is
- 49:04Speaker 1: three guys before the game's textual healing. You can text
- 49:08Speaker 1: us anytime at three four four four forty eighty three.
- 49:12Speaker 1: It is brought to us by episode eight hundred dot com. Again,
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- 49:27Speaker 1: at episode eight hundred dot com. All right, so let's
- 49:31Speaker 1: do this first though. As you know in this program
- 49:35Speaker 1: and on this program, we always try to help as
- 49:38Speaker 1: much as we possibly can to at least alert people
- 49:43Speaker 1: of what's going on. And here's something that came to
- 49:46Speaker 1: our attention this weekend. Former WVU basketball player Marcellus Basi
- 49:53Speaker 1: has been hospitalized and is receiving treatment after suffering a
- 49:58Speaker 1: stroke and didn't know anything about it, but was alerted
- 50:02Speaker 1: this weekend, in fact, by both the former teammates Chris
- 50:05Speaker 1: Leonard and Catfish McNeely. And there is a go fund
- 50:09Speaker 1: me page for Marcellus Basie. That page will give you
- 50:14Speaker 1: all of the information and all of the details as
- 50:17Speaker 1: to what Marcellus is dealing with and basically trying to
- 50:22Speaker 1: raise dollars to help in his expenses that are going
- 50:27Speaker 1: to be coming up here as he recovers from a stroke,
- 50:32Speaker 1: and just to kind of refresh some of you that
- 50:35Speaker 1: maybe younger may not be totally familiar, but Marcello's basey
- 50:39Speaker 1: played at WVU Martinsburg native from ninety one to nineteen
- 50:42Speaker 1: ninety four. Scored over eleven hundred points, had over five
- 50:47Speaker 1: hundred assists, and for as challenged as he was vertically,
- 50:54Speaker 1: I mean he's a small guy, he made up for
- 50:56Speaker 1: that with one of the greatest fights that you'll ever have.
- 51:00Speaker 1: It was a bad look. I got five rebounds per
- 51:02Speaker 1: game in his senior year, which is just absolutely amazing.
- 51:05Speaker 1: The greatest game he ever had was an absolute showdown
- 51:09Speaker 1: between Saint Joe's Bernard Blunt. They had that back quarter
- 51:13Speaker 1: of Bernard Blunt and Rap Curry and uh Marcellus January
- 51:18Speaker 1: twenty three, nineteen ninety three lines up and he got. Yeah,
- 51:22Speaker 1: he was a little bit hot. He finished up with
- 51:24Speaker 1: thirty six points. West Virginia wins the game in double
- 51:29Speaker 1: overtime eighty two eighty one. Bernard Blunt had thirty and
- 51:34Speaker 1: Marcella's had thirty six, so yeah, it was a day.
- 51:39Speaker 1: So if you would like to help learn more, really
- 51:44Speaker 1: simple way to do this just go to GoFundMe dot
- 51:47Speaker 1: com space and then just put in bas e y
- 51:53Speaker 1: gofunme dot com space basy and it'll bring it up
- 51:56Speaker 1: and then you'll have the page. And we wish Marcellus
- 51:59Speaker 1: the very very best in his recovery. He's always been
- 52:02Speaker 1: a great young guy. Known him since his state high
- 52:05Speaker 1: school tournament days. He was involved in some colossally important
- 52:11Speaker 1: state high school tournament games back in the days of
- 52:14Speaker 1: Randy Moss and Jason Williams, and my guy was throwing
- 52:19Speaker 1: three quarter of the court length bounce passes. Great baseball
- 52:23Speaker 1: player drafted, played professional mind League baseball as well. All right,
- 52:28Speaker 1: so here we go, let's do some healing. There is
- 52:35Speaker 1: a ton legally that is going on with this House decision,
- 52:39Speaker 1: which was supposed to receive approval shortly and then kick
- 52:42Speaker 1: in on July one. There is no indication whatsoever now
- 52:47Speaker 1: that that's going to happen, because there are just too
- 52:49Speaker 1: many legal challenges. But a Texter writes in the Federal
- 52:52Speaker 1: District Court judge as a hearing said April seven, if
- 52:56Speaker 1: the proposed settlement is approved by the District Court. The
- 52:59Speaker 1: Title nine proponents and others objecting for various reasons, will
- 53:03Speaker 1: most definitely appeal to the Ninth Circuit Court. And then
- 53:06Speaker 1: this person goes through all of these things, we're going
- 53:08Speaker 1: to go to it happen. They think it'll eventually go
- 53:11Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and says a final resolution should
- 53:14Speaker 1: come May or June of twenty twenty seven. I said,
- 53:18Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, All right, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals,
- 53:24Speaker 1: nor the US Supreme Court vacates the state. The final
- 53:26Speaker 1: resolution of this case may well very well not be
- 53:29Speaker 1: reached until after your episode nine hundred. So strap yourself in,
- 53:34Speaker 1: by lady Buck.
- 53:37Speaker 2: You're right.
- 53:38Speaker 1: So I think what all of this means is this
- 53:40Speaker 1: because of all these challenges right now, the only way
- 53:44Speaker 1: I see all of this getting cleared up so that
- 53:46Speaker 1: you're not just you can't hold it off. I don't
- 53:48Speaker 1: think is going to be some form of a collective
- 53:51Speaker 1: bargaining agreement will will ultimately be the settlement for this thing.
- 53:56Speaker 2: Ross Dellinger reporting on Friday there were one hundred and
- 53:59Speaker 2: eight plus objections filed against the settlement, one hundred and
- 54:04Speaker 2: eighty more to go with dozens that were previously filed,
- 54:08Speaker 2: plus there were sixty seven players who opted out in
- 54:11Speaker 2: order to file a new lawsuit. There expected to be
- 54:14Speaker 2: more opt outs as well, one hundred plus he's projecting,
- 54:18Speaker 2: which will then lead to additional lawsuits.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, three guys. I just listened to the Rich
- 54:25Speaker 1: Rod interview and him saying that we will need two
- 54:28Speaker 1: quarterbacks to win had me thinking, when was the last
- 54:31Speaker 1: time a quarterbacks started the season finished the season as
- 54:34Speaker 1: the starter, including the bowl game? Of course, Will Greer
- 54:37Speaker 1: finished the regular season in eighteen, but didn't play in
- 54:39Speaker 1: the ball. Curious to hear your thoughts. Yeah, it was
- 54:41Speaker 1: Garrett Green two a couple of years ago. Garrett Green
- 54:45Speaker 1: went through Texter Brad. It's all capital letters. I don't
- 54:48Speaker 1: know why I wanted to scream at you. This was
- 54:50Speaker 1: our chance to correct history. You had, Rich and you
- 54:53Speaker 1: didn't bring up the Denard Robinson record or lack thereof.
- 54:57Speaker 1: I thought for sure you'd bring it up. Loll I
- 54:59Speaker 1: was hoping you would. The great episode, guys, love the
- 55:01Speaker 1: hoppy questions. Also, thanks Dan from parts on those.
- 55:03Speaker 2: That's a great point.
- 55:05Speaker 1: You screwed that up text did he do it?
- 55:08Speaker 2: One year after rich left as well, or was he
- 55:11Speaker 2: there the whole time that's when he moved to running back.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Yes, I think so.
- 55:14Speaker 2: Rich did not move him to running back.
- 55:15Speaker 1: No, Rich would probably say those yards shouldn't count.
- 55:19Speaker 2: Correct. I would think so too, But that's a grea point.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Dan should have brought it up.
- 55:22Speaker 1: When I first heard rich Rod was coming back, I
- 55:24Speaker 1: thought there was no way and it was a bunch
- 55:27Speaker 1: of fan fiction cooked up online for clicks. I wasn't
- 55:30Speaker 1: against it, but I wasn't sure how he would fit
- 55:32Speaker 1: in at West Virginia with the current NCAA state of stuff.
- 55:36Speaker 1: After the interview with three guys, I'm convinced he was
- 55:38Speaker 1: the right man for the job. I don't hold him
- 55:40Speaker 1: leaving before against him, as I've made bad judgment calls
- 55:44Speaker 1: and stressful times like we all have. Glad he's back.
- 55:46Speaker 1: Can't wait to see what he does. Ethan and York, Pennsylvania. PS.
- 55:51Speaker 1: I am not a sports talk podcast guy, but you
- 55:53Speaker 1: guys make it fun and interesting. Well, thank you very much.
- 55:59Speaker 3: I think rich is winning the off season.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that rich Rod episode. I
- 56:06Speaker 1: have to say this, and recently came to this realization.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Basketball will work itself out, but for the first time
- 56:11Speaker 1: since December of seven, I no longer have this worry
- 56:15Speaker 1: anxiety about the football program. Rich Rod was always the
- 56:19Speaker 1: right guy. We just went through a seventeen year intermission.
- 56:21Speaker 1: Reality says, twenty twenty five could be a struggle. That's fine,
- 56:24Speaker 1: We'll be just fine. Hello, it is Tyler from Morgantown.
- 56:28Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the Varsity Club. Some friendly guy just
- 56:32Speaker 1: offered to pay for my three oh four connection three
- 56:34Speaker 1: oh four. I didn't catch his name, but he did
- 56:36Speaker 1: ask if I listened to the pod, thankful for the
- 56:39Speaker 1: cold refreshment, while I look over at the stadium, knowing
- 56:41Speaker 1: as the calendar turns another month, we are that much
- 56:44Speaker 1: closer to the start of another Mountaineer football season.
- 56:47Speaker 2: I have a nice connection three oh four there for free.
- 56:50Speaker 1: So a guy is going around paying for people's connection
- 56:53Speaker 1: three to oh four inches, Isn't that interesting?
- 56:56Speaker 3: Like a Johnny Appleseed of beer.
- 56:58Speaker 2: Never know when you're gonna get bonus in a free
- 57:00Speaker 2: connection three or four?
- 57:02Speaker 3: Was that you?
- 57:04Speaker 1: We were out of town?
- 57:05Speaker 2: Town?
- 57:06Speaker 1: Were you in towns? It you?
- 57:07Speaker 3: I was out of town.
- 57:09Speaker 1: There's only one man that could.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Have been then, well, you don't could have been anybody.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Dave could have been home with Dave could be nice
- 57:16Speaker 1: patron sure Cincinnati midgame question. I noticed the coach from
- 57:21Speaker 1: the Bearcats is out of the coaching box a lot.
- 57:23Speaker 1: I also noticed many coaches on the floor during play.
- 57:27Speaker 1: Do the referees not enforce that or is it a
- 57:29Speaker 1: suggestion to stay in the box not a rule. My
- 57:32Speaker 1: thought on that is coaches certainly do leave the box.
- 57:36Speaker 1: I think officials are okay with it under two situations,
- 57:39Speaker 1: that they're not out of the box yelling at the official,
- 57:42Speaker 1: or that they're not impeding the flow of play down
- 57:45Speaker 1: the sideline. Other than that, the officials give them the room,
- 57:49Speaker 1: the wiggle room to get out there. But if they
- 57:51Speaker 1: get in the way of an official streaking down the sideline,
- 57:53Speaker 1: then it's a problem. Or if they're screaming at him
- 57:55Speaker 1: and they're out of the box, boom, they will blow
- 57:57Speaker 1: them up. Text high scope spreads and emeritus. Pretty big
- 58:03Speaker 1: weekend for the Golden Blue Women are hosting a top
- 58:06Speaker 1: twenty five matchup, Wrestling hosting number five, You and I
- 58:10Speaker 1: Gymnastics hosting number two Florida, number four Utah. Within twenty
- 58:14Speaker 1: six hours. Got to give a gold star to the
- 58:16Speaker 1: crew fitting all of those events in that time period.
- 58:20Speaker 1: I listened to the SINCI game on the radio in
- 58:22Speaker 1: West Virginia effectively had the crowd taken out most of
- 58:25Speaker 1: the day. It sounded like a church near the end
- 58:27Speaker 1: fitting on a Sunday signed by Joe in Charleston, South Carolina.
- 58:32Speaker 3: Controlled it, hoppy start to controlled it. How about speaking
- 58:36Speaker 3: of controlling the environment. But cala Parie going into rupt
- 58:40Speaker 3: what a story that was winning that game.
- 58:42Speaker 1: That was a wowser. Wow, it was a wowser weekend.
- 58:45Speaker 3: Yeah, college college basketball.
- 58:48Speaker 1: Texter says, when we played Cincinnata in football, we had
- 58:50Speaker 1: a high percentage of fans there. What would you say
- 58:53Speaker 1: the percentage was for basketball. We need to turn Cincinnati
- 58:56Speaker 1: into a home game just like Charlotte. That's a nice crowd.
- 59:00Speaker 2: Crowd really yeah, it.
- 59:01Speaker 1: Was nice, But they took over the floor at the
- 59:03Speaker 1: end of the game. There was like there was like
- 59:05Speaker 1: Mountaineer fans all over the floor.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Really yeah, little thanks for having us.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Well, they were just shaking hands with everybody getting getting.
- 59:12Speaker 2: Their pictures made on pitchers being made.
- 59:15Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys taking a few minutes before the
- 59:18Speaker 1: game to chat. Brad's pregame insight. Well, Tony was getting
- 59:21Speaker 1: a free adjustment by a chiropractor.
- 59:23Speaker 3: Was excuse me, what now?
- 59:26Speaker 1: Now? What here's hoping for? Thanks for having us moment, Tony,
- 59:29Speaker 1: super super cool to hear that your wife is a
- 59:32Speaker 1: West A grad. Brad. That chili you were talking about
- 59:35Speaker 1: is Coney Island Newcastlaria, keep up the great workfellas. Mike
- 59:39Speaker 1: from Oakdale, Now what's wait a minute part of the story.
- 59:42Speaker 1: There's a lot piece of this. So there's Larry is right,
- 59:45Speaker 1: there's Mike from Oakdale. We got our picture made with him.
- 59:48Speaker 1: When he came over. I was having another conversation with
- 59:50Speaker 1: a guy. Well this follows right into this one. Hey, guys,
- 59:52Speaker 1: it's Andy and Columbus. Had a great time chatting with
- 59:55Speaker 1: you getting my picture made in Cincinnati. I was happy
- 59:58Speaker 1: to see the guys get back on try with a performance. Tony,
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: you got to get that levator. Calm down. I don't
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: think you would qualify for a medical red shirt this
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: late in the season, and losing you might be as
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: detrimental as losing Tucker. However, just like the rest of
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: the team has stepped up and persevered, I'm sure Brad
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: would do the same. In your absence. Do those do
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: the nose to opposite armpit, stretch for a thirty second
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: hold three to four times per hour. Also look into
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: a therapane to dig into that area. I'd be happy
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: to put some needles in you at the next three
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: guys food court pre connection three or four consumption. Don't
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: hesitate to reach out with any questions. I'd be happy
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: to send some exercises your way. I thanks and love
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: the show. So here this picture here, that's Andy to
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: the left from Columbus. He is a physical therapist, okay,
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: from Steubenville, Ohio. He grew up right on the border here,
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: and he came up to me and told me he
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: was a physical therapist. He was not a chiropractor, because
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: there's a there's tension between physical therapists and chiropractors. Like
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: if you like this guy's like they was got like
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: you know, two dogs are walking down the street like
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: you just he's a physical therapist. Leave it at that.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: I said, dude, I got this Levador scapule a deal
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: right back here. I said, how do you get this
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: thing released? So he goes, well, all you got to
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: do is, he says, just turn your turn your to
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: the opposite. I turn your nose down into your armpit,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: hold it for thirty seconds. So I did that, and
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: he said, I can needle that for you. So when
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: they put these little needles in there, it releases the
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: model and it just goes. I've had the needling done.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: It's fantastic. You know. Jack brought him. Yeah, a multi
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: needle guy for me, does a really nice job. But anyway,
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: Andy was very good and it was good to see him.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: I did stretch and.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: You have been there before, you have witnessed this when
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: Tony's very good talking to folks before the game and
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: very very fraight social change of order there of what happens.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: People don't just come up and tell him what they do.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: He leads with what do you do in the event
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: it's a service or good that he can use. So
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: my man says he's a pea tea and it wasn't
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: out of his mouth, and Tony's like, I got a thing,
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: like I gotta I gotta think, right, So immediately it
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: goes into free medical care. Sure at the table. I
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: mean you've seen him try.
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: And get lawn chairs, yes, right, Yes, you've.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: Seen him try and do that. Yes, at a game.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Well this was this was the same thing, what do
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: you do physical physical therap But I got an issue.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: I got to hear what do I do here? So
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: I was talking to but like that, that took care
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: of itself and then we jumped in and then it
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: was it was witnessed by other people. He was trying
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: to get free stuff.
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: Yeah, little classic.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Well that's really how that transported it.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: That's both the guys were very nice.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: That's a cute, funny story. It's not true. What I
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: do is when I ask people what they do, you know,
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: it kind of brings them into the conversation. So you
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: it shows I'm just not a ball and bat guy, right,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a sports guy. So he hit another
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: physical therapist with him. So he says, so, you know
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: another guy there, and I said you, what do you do?
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: He says, I'm physical therapist. So I immediately gave him
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: like the three things I know about physical therapy, assaulted
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: the guy's body. I said, what's your deal, dude, looks
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: like you got a multipetous strain. You're all pronated over here,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: you got some sublxation. I mean, you're a mess. You
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: can't even stand up straight, just attack the physical therapist.
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: I can't wait till you're at a game and you
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: ask somebody what they do and they say they were
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: a proctologist. See what's going to happen?
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: Then I'll say, Brad, this guy needs to see three guys.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: Great time in Cincinnati this weekend. I watched the Mountaineers
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: to take the Bearcat's lunch money. Also great to catch
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: up with Scopes in the center afterward. By the way,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: we took a different route home and guess what who
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: was there to greet us some point pleasant. Yep, you
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: guessed it. Mothman said to say hello, Brad Elite one Jennings,
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Mothman's number one fan. So Jennings was there too.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, it's up with a beard.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: A winter winter. It's a winter beard. I'll take that
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: off before you.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: Think you can see that. Most theerena is cleared out there.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: You see some Mountaineer fans in the in the section
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: still staying and celebrating the win.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Texter Tony Brad Hopster attaches a rate my plate. However,
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: I did not get the picture taken before I crushed
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: the first biscuit. Love having coworkers that live in the
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Panhandle and commute the DC region. And yes, I crushed
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: both Tutors biscuits and one sitting branded from Herndi vidge.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: There it is. We have the picture. So that was
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: you got them down? Get it two down? And why
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: and why wouldn't you?
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: That's got the egg, the hash brown, the biscuit. That's good,
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: I might take two do the world?
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: Is that the champion?
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: That could be the mountaineer, That very well could be
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- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Tutor's Biscuit World. Start your day the Three Guys Way
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: with a Tutor's Biscuit Texter longtime listener Glenn here in
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: Chicago kudos on having Coach Rod on the show. It
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: sounded more like old friends getting together instead of a
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: new head coach coming on to explain their philosophy. What
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: are your thoughts on who will run the offense? I
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: know Chad Scott was retained, but wasn't sure if he
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: was going to continue as OC. During his previous stint,
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Coach Rod had the great Calvin McGee calling the place.
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: Thanks to you, Tony Brett Hoppy for continuing your excellent
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: analysis w Sports.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Well.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: One thing we do know about Rich after his first
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: stint and now the twenty years have passed since he
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: first took over, Rich does everything. Rich does everything, so
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: Rich is the guy that's going to call the place.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Travis Trickett will be heavily involved in the process, including
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: some play suggestions during games as well, so Travis will
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: be the closest thing to an OC play caller there
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: is in conjunction with Rich.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: But everything will be Rich will be the one that
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: will signal to play. Well, he'll give the word to
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: signal play. He that's what he does. He calls plays.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: I mean, that's what his thing is. Like the Senator,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: his thing is analytics, right, he does analytics, Hoppy, he
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: does politics. That's what he does. Rich He calls plays.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: That's just what it is. So there'll be a filtration
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: system that they'll talk through in the week and they'll
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: figure out what they want to do. But when it
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: comes ball time, that's what.
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: He does, which is i'd like some time we didn't
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: get into it. It was so much ground to cover it.
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: Just to pick his brain sometime somebody who's called a
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: million plays just on play calling and what's happening. I mean,
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: obviously you know what you'd you got an outline, but
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: you know, Brad, as the game changes and he starts,
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: you know, he wants to go fast and down in
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: distance games that you wayshin clock personnel. That's a lot
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: going on. I'd like to know just how he does it,
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: what he's thinking is he makes that.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: That's also where the assistant that's involved in that help
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: so much because they're looking ahead, they can see things
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: and they're they're throwing down suggestions in between plays as well,
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: so he's got to at times pick a play rather
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: than come up with a play. That's where that can
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: be really valuable as well.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: What would be really nice is to have that interchange
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: on tape when a coach makes a suggestion but the
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: head coach may not be totally in favor of that
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: would be that would be a special.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: Well, or maybe even a better one is when they
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: take the suggest the head coach takes the suggestion, they
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: run the plane it doesn't work. That would be an
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: interesting conversation. That wouldn't be a conversation, to be an
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: interesting verbal lashing that comes out.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: There's a piece of tape. I haven't seen it in years,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: and I just hope the MSN guys have it still somewhere.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: It's Doc Holliday and Dan Simmerel in the booth Miami,
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: West Virginia coming down to the final seconds and they
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: are on Mike, which was back then no one had,
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: No one had, but West Virginia was in there.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: Might have been ninety three, maybe ninety later, because I
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: think I was here for the All Access.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: One, and I mean, do they run another play? Or
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: do they kick the field goal right then? That's the thing.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: And I mean it is epic. And they're talking to don.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: Kick it done, kick it, don run a play.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Run a play, trying to get it closer. It's awesome.
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: I hope that's still in existence. I'll go ask those guys. Yeah,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: someone like a Scottie Bartlett has got to have that
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: save summer. Scott just knows the value of that. He
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: has had to have that like pushed away somewhere. It
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: would be awesome.
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: Kick it, kick it done.
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: You know that. I love the shots. The NFL guys
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: are so good when they give you that that shot though,
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: they're always just.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, man, dudes, Yeah, pretty cool. NFL guy's
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: pretty cool.
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: Yeah, they keep it on the down.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: How about Chip Kelly getting back in the league, going
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: to the Raiders thatack of a payday? Yeah, And I
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: mean and the breath taking Luca deal. Wow, all right,
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: those guys that knew, we knew about it. We went
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: for a walk and we're sitting there having coffee. Got
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: forced into a really bad coffee situation. Nearly lost my
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: life in Cincinnati where Brad ran me through. But anyway,
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Those guys already knew and I
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: look at my phone, going, did you guys see this?
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: There's some great video out there. Do you see Kevin
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Durant on the bench? They didn't know about it, and
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: they were like, they looked at it and we'll go.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Like, you know, it's I mean that, that's just mind blowing.
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: And I started to read something about it overy the
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: weekend as it was fascinating that Luca because his contract
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: is up, you know after this coming not this year
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: but next year, and they thought, well, let's get something
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: for him while you can. And also the deal wouldn't
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: have been done with the Lakers, with getting a bit
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: of Anthony da Anthony Davis if Lebron hadn't signed off
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: on it. A lot of intrigue there.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: Stuff. Yeah, good stuff. All right, we're back Thursday, Thursday.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: You're good. You're around, hob Thursday. Yeah, you're good. Center.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: You'll be around, I think so. You might be a
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: little tired, but we'll be around. We'll get this thing down.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: We'll recap huh.
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: Wednesday night, eight o'clock eastern, eight.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: O'clock eastern, Stay hot, go get one.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: Yeah, be awesome. All right, thanks for being with us
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