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Episode 324: Human (SG-U 1.14) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We lost in the Kino. No I took a wrong
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  Speaker 1: turn trying to steer it out. I just need to
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  Speaker 1: take a look and get my bearings.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of town, any other sort of exit or access
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  Speaker 2: to ground level.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna make fire. We just made things a
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  Speaker 1: lot worse rushing. I'm talking to Daniel Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: You've the clouds in the sky all just a dream,
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  Speaker 3: but just the memories.
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  Speaker 1: Our source inside the Lucian Alliance has come through.
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  Speaker 3: We've got the location of a planet that just might
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  Speaker 3: suit our power requirements.
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  Speaker 1: It's a code you just want your own. I need.
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  Speaker 1: So what if you become neckless April six? What does
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  Speaker 1: that mean? Why does he say forty six on the dollar? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that can you'd be very helpful the.
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  Speaker 4: Clue forty six it's a number of chromosomes in human DNA.
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  Speaker 1: They use their own genetic code. Rush, Oh, this just
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  Speaker 1: was worth risking your life for him. No, Sae.
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  Speaker 2: Get into Gates episode three hundred and twenty four, tooking
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  Speaker 2: some Stargate.
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  Speaker 1: Universe the episode human as.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch over there Brandon, you know, makes pots in the pants.
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  Speaker 1: Making up a cool little recap there and Maddy.
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  Speaker 4: How's your thirteenth chromosome missing a f your beast pairs
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  Speaker 4: in Jane one, seventy eighth.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, Yeah, we get into a little bit of that territory,
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  Speaker 2: don't we, Old human and a little bit of doctor rush.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting some real personal shit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked up and we'll get into why,
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  Speaker 2: but we've we've talked up Robert Carlyle and why might
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  Speaker 2: have chosen this particular acting gig and some of the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that he gets to do. And I just reckon
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  Speaker 2: this script comes across his desk and he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: fuck yeah, I get to play around here like emotions
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of clashing realities and all kinds of shit.
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  Speaker 2: Even though, for like in one version of this episode,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could look at it, he's just sitting
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  Speaker 2: in a chair with his eyes closed. But otherwise he
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  Speaker 2: gets to go to some places. But let's sit it
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  Speaker 2: into the old synopsis.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he was probably excited and then he
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  Speaker 4: saw who was directing the episode.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that has just come across because I
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  Speaker 2: obviously didn't watch the credits, and I watched some of it,
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  Speaker 2: and I was disappointed to see some of it and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the other bit which has just come across,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll get into it, Doctor Nicholas Russ. This has
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  Speaker 2: come from the Stargate dot fandom dot com. This week,
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  Speaker 2: risks his life in a dangerous experiment involving Destiny's interface chair,
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  Speaker 2: in which he relives his wife's final days and his
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  Speaker 2: recruitment into the Stargate program. Meanwhile, Destiny drops out of
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  Speaker 2: FTL and does a planet which show signs of a
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  Speaker 2: past civilization. Written by my name Jeff Vlamming and directed
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  Speaker 2: by Robert C.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Number one. Please tell you no.
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  Speaker 4: Accurate though, because that quote, the thing that I said
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  Speaker 4: at the top of the episode was a voyager quote.
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  Speaker 1: Okay either.
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  Speaker 3: This is Rob Cooper here with Michael Blundell, the director
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  Speaker 3: of photography on this episode. In case you don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm an executive producer and I directed. This episode was
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  Speaker 3: written by a guy named.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Fleeming, written by a guy just written by me.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Bellaheadide.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I literally just before we hit record, I
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  Speaker 2: saw that, so obviously didn't see that part of the credits.
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  Speaker 2: What I did see that I wish that I didn't
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  Speaker 2: and I had to pause it to take a phone call.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't see it until I came back to press play
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  Speaker 2: again and it was paused on guest starring Michael Shanks,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I probably saw him eight seconds later,
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  Speaker 2: but it was still like just enough, like I wish
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't, especially the way Hooper, especially the way
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: that he enters that episode, like he's in the background,
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  Speaker 2: out of focus and we're just watching Rush walk and
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  Speaker 2: it says, you know, doctor Rush, doctor Rush, and upcomes
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  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, my name is Daniel Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, holy man, that's that's you. That's him. And
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  Speaker 1: even though this whole.
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  Speaker 2: Even though this is like we didn't know at the
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  Speaker 2: time or I didn't as the first time, but this
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  Speaker 2: is like a reliving of that memory if at least
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  Speaker 2: that part of it was accurate, I'm like, that's how
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  Speaker 2: he that's how he is, Like he's just he's just
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  Speaker 2: a guy in that scene.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, like again, annoying guy.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, sure in terms of the plot anyway, but
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  Speaker 2: like we've spoken about it, especially obviously with with with
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  Speaker 2: Jack O'Neill, because he's been used the most of the
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  Speaker 2: of the original cast, but I've used him, we've used
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  Speaker 2: Samantha Carter and used Jackson. They It just feels very
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  Speaker 2: authentic in how we've used them, like this would be
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  Speaker 2: where they would be posts SG One. It doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like stunt casting and like this could have been played
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  Speaker 2: by any faceless character like Daniel's role, obviously recruiting him
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot. But still it felt kind of it didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel like, hey, it's Michael. Now we're going to focus
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  Speaker 2: on him and he's going to look at the camera
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  Speaker 2: and wink through because he's great and we love him
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  Speaker 2: and we're giving him his extra fans like none of that.
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  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I really I dug his role in it,
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  Speaker 2: And this was a very sad sorry for a first time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys have teased to me how much
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  Speaker 2: of an interesting character Rush is and and me experiencing
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  Speaker 2: it for the first time. The idea of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's got motives, what are they?
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  Speaker 1: Does he know more than what he's letting on?
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  Speaker 2: Is he is he something that he's not letting on
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  Speaker 2: or through that early flashback or early reference with the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the violin playing and the idea that he
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  Speaker 2: has a wife and that is he trying to get
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  Speaker 2: to a place to learn things to just bring her
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  Speaker 2: back to life. Is he trying to like reach ascension
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  Speaker 2: so he can be with her or something? And then
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  Speaker 2: we get this episode which is somewhat manufactured memories in
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  Speaker 2: a way and alternative memories, but me man like being
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  Speaker 2: in a position where you're having to go back and
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  Speaker 2: relive that shit and also put himself in a position
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  Speaker 2: where he's like, I'm going to relive this but also
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  Speaker 2: ignore it more than I did the first time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I know that I'm doing this for a purpose,
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  Speaker 2: and seeing the matrix code while I'm walking around and
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  Speaker 2: before I knew it was a memory, I'm sitting there
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  Speaker 2: going is this actually a look into who he is?
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  Speaker 2: Is he is he some type of like ancient or
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  Speaker 2: something like that who's been sort of reborn as a
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  Speaker 2: human and he is seeing this code and that's why
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  Speaker 2: he wants to get to where the Destiny's going or something.
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  Speaker 1: Has seen the code the whole time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, something that I found really confusing, And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if there's an answer. I think it's just going
• 6:47
  Speaker 4: to be, you know, our own opinions, because I find
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: this episode really weird in that it doesn't actually make
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  Speaker 4: me feel for Rush anymore. Like it doesn't make me
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  Speaker 4: feel any more connected to him, is what I'm saying. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I think this is supposed to make us feel sympathy
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  Speaker 4: for him and stuff like that. But something that kind
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  Speaker 4: of stuck out with me was early in the episode,
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  Speaker 4: he skips the doctor's appointment with his wife where she
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: finds out that, you know, her diagnosis and all that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think.
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  Speaker 4: He skipped it the first time or he only skipped
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  Speaker 4: it here because it was a memory and he knew
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  Speaker 4: what was going to happen at that doctor's appointment, because
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  Speaker 4: you do see in the montage later on and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He does go to other doctor's appointments when you see
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  Speaker 4: his wife in the wheelchair at the hospital, and he
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  Speaker 4: goes to church with her, so he does go to
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  Speaker 4: these certain things. So did he not go to that
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  Speaker 4: appointment with her just in the memory or did he
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  Speaker 4: not go because that's what happened the first time?
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  Speaker 1: And that reallys with my brain.
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  Speaker 4: Because Yeah, I'm just like I would hope that he
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  Speaker 4: would have gone with her.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see that's what and that when you
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  Speaker 5: said that you're not really connecting with Rush because he
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  Speaker 5: did show a complete apathy to her. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: if you haven't seen your wife for so long, obviously
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  Speaker 5: it's a dream, but it's a loosid dream even, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you kind of want to kind of just experience what's happening. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Because they didn't really say how long it's been. I
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  Speaker 5: imagine it's a year or two, and she passed.
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  Speaker 1: Two and a half years.
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  Speaker 4: Because there's that moment where he when he's first approached
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  Speaker 4: by Daniel Jackson, and then the memory of Daniel Jackson
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  Speaker 4: is about to tell him about the Stargate program, and
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  Speaker 4: he says, and I'll spend the next two and a
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  Speaker 4: half years.
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  Speaker 1: Of my ylah blah blah blah bla blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: Fun fact is that actually someone must have jumped onto
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  Speaker 4: Version got conversion dot com, and they backed worked it
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  Speaker 4: and they said, which means that scene I almost spoiled
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  Speaker 4: it for you last week, Mitch.
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  Speaker 1: That scene would have taken place you need as well.
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  Speaker 4: If I thought if I new universe well enough, I
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  Speaker 4: could have done it across the universe a couple of
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  Speaker 4: years ago. But that scene in the real world would
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: have taken place late two thousand and six, early two
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: thousand and seven, which puts it in SG one season
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  Speaker 4: ten or SGA season three. So theoretically last week, when
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about like Daniel becoming a prior and stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that, around the same time Daniel was a prior
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  Speaker 4: and all that stuff was going on, at some point
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  Speaker 4: he went and.
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  Speaker 1: Recruited Dr Rush.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so potentially it could have been his knowledge as
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  Speaker 4: Merlin gave them inklings towards a nine chevron address, which
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  Speaker 4: made them start working on that project behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: and that's why Daniel went and pulled Russian to do
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  Speaker 4: research on the nine chevron address.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I do like that, And like you were saying last week,
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  Speaker 5: I think the if we had come out now, we
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: would have appreciated how the writing works. I feel like
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: it's a lot more philosophical and deeper. They delve deeper
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  Speaker 5: into it, which you might not see the first time
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  Speaker 5: you watch it, but you can. I keep keeping in
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  Speaker 5: real strong eye on Rush in this watch and just
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  Speaker 5: to see That's what I keep saying. I think he's
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: just a pure pragmatist when it comes to like even
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: last week, going we can't lose that many people. I
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  Speaker 5: don't care if they die, but we can't survive without
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: having that many people to.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: Say Patrician, we can't get Patrician.
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  Speaker 5: So I just feel like, this time around, I want
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  Speaker 5: him to show something where.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: I can like him more.
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  Speaker 4: I think That's what I was getting at, is like,
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  Speaker 4: is like, if we've seen the real memories first, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's what I was saying and seeing how Rush because
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  Speaker 4: even at the end, when his memory of his wife
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  Speaker 4: is dying in bed, she says, this isn't you you know?
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's you know, him him talking to himself
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been like to have seen time loop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have liked to have seen at least
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  Speaker 4: one pass through maybe because Rush did say at one
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  Speaker 4: point in this he chose this memory because he said
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  Speaker 4: if he if he lost this memory, it would be
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  Speaker 4: okay because it was so traumatic for him going through
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  Speaker 4: all that with his wife with her rediagnosis.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he chose this.
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  Speaker 5: Blink and you missed that because Brodie said something like yes,
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  Speaker 5: selected certain memories blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: Which I mean I did say that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, really, this is like as painful as it is,
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  Speaker 2: It's like, do you is this one that you want
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  Speaker 2: to lose?
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  Speaker 1: Because you're going to lose so much of well.
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  Speaker 5: Especially if he was a prickluck he is in this Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he was not, because he's skipping
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  Speaker 5: it because he knows what's going to happen. He said
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  Speaker 5: it to Daniel, You're just a dream. I don't really
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  Speaker 5: give a shit. I'm not going to go. Yeah. Yeah
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  Speaker 5: she's answers the phone. Yeah, yeah she's got it. It's
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  Speaker 5: back again. Yeah she's nearly dead. Gotcha. Was he that
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  Speaker 5: apathetic at the time?
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  Speaker 1: I hope not. But give me something where I can
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  Speaker 1: work with.
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  Speaker 4: Let me see him be be the other rush, be
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  Speaker 4: that soft loving rush that his wife spoke about or
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  Speaker 4: she died, so that we can empathize with him and
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  Speaker 4: then see the pragmatic version where he's trying to not
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  Speaker 4: re experience all these traumatic like just you know, I
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: lost my mom. As as of this episode coming out,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's a couple of days of five years since
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  Speaker 4: I lost my mum and I watched her, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just disintegrate over a number of years. So it's I
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  Speaker 4: kind of very much put myself in the same boat
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  Speaker 4: as him, going if I had the opportunity to do
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  Speaker 4: what he was doing and to see my mom before
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  Speaker 4: her diagnosis and before she got sicken, when she was
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  Speaker 4: still her her vibrant self. I would not give a
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  Speaker 4: about the secrets of the universe of Atlantis, you know,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: of destiny or anything like that. But you know, there
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  Speaker 4: is also the double edged sword of like rush nose
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  Speaker 4: that he's in the chair and he acknowledges that when
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: he's around his wife, the data is flowing more freely
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  Speaker 4: into his body like and is absorbing, but he needs
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  Speaker 4: time to digest it, and that's why he's pushing himself
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: away from her. So it's, yeah, there's a no win
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  Speaker 4: scenario there because it's it's almost like it was a
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  Speaker 4: if he hadn't selected those memories. I would almost say
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  Speaker 4: it's like a test. It's like Destiny's testing him to
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  Speaker 4: see if he's worthy of the information by not getting
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  Speaker 4: bogged down and caught in, you know, the emotion of
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  Speaker 4: seeing his wife, since that is what we're led to believe,
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  Speaker 4: you know, since the first episode is why he's so
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: obsessed with destiny and finding out the meaning of life
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: and you know, potential ascension and all these things is
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  Speaker 4: motivated purely by his wife. But is this episode, is
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: it inferring that the reason he is so single minded
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: is because it was the introduction of the Stargate program
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  Speaker 4: and the Icarus project is what kept him from his
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  Speaker 4: wife while she was dying, you know. And now he's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have my wife, and the reason I don't
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  Speaker 4: and I wasn't there for her the way I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to be because of this program. So now that I'm here,
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  Speaker 4: I will do anything and everything I can to make
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  Speaker 4: it worth losing her. He's finding out whatever whatever secrets Destiny.
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  Speaker 1: Has to hold. It's so heavy, it's so heavy.
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  Speaker 2: Was it the same essentially the same day that she
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  Speaker 2: called him to say that it's back, was the same
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: day that Daniel came to recit.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think, and this is why I had questions
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  Speaker 4: about whether he came to the appointment the appointment or not,
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  Speaker 4: because the appointment was at four pm, Like, well, it
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: may or may not have been, but because we know
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  Speaker 4: that six and four kept popping up everywhere, But the
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: appointment was at four pm even if it wasn't. But
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  Speaker 4: it's like she rang him to tell him the information.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: And then when he was walking at the campus, which
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: either would have been right after he found out or
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: the next morning was when Daniel Jackson approached him. So
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: if it was that afternoon, that memory never would have
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: taken place because he would have been at the appointment
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  Speaker 4: with his wife and he wouldn't have been in at
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: the university for Daniel Jackson to find him at that thing.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what makes me think he never went to
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: that appointment. But having said that, if she was someone
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: who had gone through cancer gone into remission, she might
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: have been free and clear for like three years or
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: something like that. It was just one of those rudimentary,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: you know, every six or twelve month checkups, and she
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  Speaker 4: just happened to get rediagnosed or where they got relapse
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  Speaker 4: or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: At that moment.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe that's why he felt okay skipping that yeah
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  Speaker 4: the first time, but probably wasn't as cold as he
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  Speaker 4: was in what we saw I.
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  Speaker 1: Was thinking in the original time.
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  Speaker 2: And then did he whether or not he went to
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: the appointment, did he say and say yes and sign
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: up to the Stargate program thing on that first approach
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: by Daniel and then basically wasn't there for her entire.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Temo and all those.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that he was gone
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  Speaker 2: throughout it, and so that like almost action. That wouldn't
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: be true because then when he got the call that,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: oh I guess the call could have come through his office,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: but it could have come to the SGC.
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  Speaker 1: He knew that that day was he was going to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: get a call from somebody.
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  Speaker 5: So I think the timeline's broken anyway, because he asked
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Daniel later what today's date is, even though he knew
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: it was the day that his wife was going to die,
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: and it said April six, which wasn't the date.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: It just happened to be forty six, Yeah, which is
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: would you get as a very americanized way Australia, It
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's the thing. It wouldn't be in
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Scotland and stuff either. But it's only because Russia is
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: in America.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: That it goes that way.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, just out of interest, Brendan, I just saw
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: on I mean this is on the fandom. We can
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: hear that the original air date of this in America
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: was your birthday, get out, and its original air date
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: in Australia was a week later on my birth.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: But we do still, which means next week's episode Lost
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: will have aired its original air date will be your birthday.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, well we do right the day.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: We go, we go day, month, year, So it would
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: have been six six six four sixty four, not forty six. Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: sixty four sixty four, because we would do the sixth
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: of April. We wouldn't do April. Sixth April. April six
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: is forty six, six of April.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Is trying to see if twenty three would work.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, I have seen the Jim Kerry movie.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I have.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what number it's called the number twenty three?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was gonna ask you guys if you knew
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: about the twenty three ding, because only really through.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: The Gym Kerry movie. It goes mental because of that, right,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: because for me it's in Daniel referen is blue rites
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: twenty three on his face instead of blue.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So Daniel references it in this he I mean, it
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: was a bit on the nose where we actually then
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: went on and said that it was Hitchrucks Galaxy's forty six,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: but in Star Truk it's forty seven. Forty seven shows
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: up everywhere. It's just in it's everywhere, there's forty seven's everywhere.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: That there is what technically a couple of fun.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Easter eggs and appearances. So Rush and his wife's friend Constance.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: The one was like, you have to go to the appointment,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: We've seen her work, but a friend of the wife,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like she worked at the university as well.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: We've seen her before. She played the system lord Krly
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: in Summit and Last Stand Back in season five of
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: SG one. The first time we see them, like feasting
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: on the on the symbiotes and stuff like that. Head Yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: the priest giving the sermon where you only kind of
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: see the side of his face, that was the system
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Lord Cronus. Yeah, that was the guy that killed Tilk's dad.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: That was Cronus. Get out of town. The priest priest
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: when when Rush goes to the church and he gives
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: a little sermon and you only see the priests facing profile.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Is a gray haired priest, guy not abusing children. He's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: up on, he's up giving a sermon. That's Cronus. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: then the living the little kid, the student that stands
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: up in Russia's class a couple of times from the light. No,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: that's that's uh Gordy from Citizen Joe. He was the
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: kid that swept up at the Joe's barbershop.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He looks like the kid from the Light as well.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: SG One.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I didn't see that, because the dude from
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: the Light was kind of cute. Okay, yeah, here's here's
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: a looker.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: He's certain there there's a picture of Cronus as the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: as the priest.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Way.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, dude, I did not even notice the irony
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: that it was only because I was only because I
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: read the trivia for it a false.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: God coming down to be a man of the cloth.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Good pick up Matthew. Oh I picked I didn't pick
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it up. I could pick up Matthew.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, kid from the Light was all right, he's better
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: than Gordy.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Look they look pretty similar. Nah, you can forgive me
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: for mixing them up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean was just a basic white guy. But yeah, right,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a few people from SQ one.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and in classic Robert Robert C. Cooper style, what
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: do we see in this episode?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Underground me? Yeah, spider bug. It was a spider sir.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, just say that it was the size
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of a big dog, like because it was Yeah, then
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it's understandable why you need to shoot yourself into a cave.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Which, by the way, I think it's one of the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: reasons why I'm like freer because Eli was right, Grea
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: was scared. M m yeah, he was like, what you're scared?
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: And then Grea's like, end you with that little he
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: was because then Scott confirms that he has class a phobia.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: It's like, there's nothing wrong with being claustrophobic. It sounds
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: like he's more phobic as something else.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Piece of ship. Oh yeah, not fruit phobia that happened
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Never mentioned that, the fact that an alien planet test
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I just didn't, like, well, we don't
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: if it's going to make you sick, you guys, I'll
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: let you know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: It can't be worse than those space potatoes. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, if I had anyone on that ship backing
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: me up, i'd picker yeah for anyone.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: He's loyal too, like I feel like you, I take Younger.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like on the weekend, I fall over on
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the way to the gate.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Kidding.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, if young hadn't thought of it, we wouldn't have
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the stones. He he chose stones over sewing equipment to
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Darne his socks. The audio commentary though, oh god, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: could have look, I apologize to you in the room
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: and apologize to everybody listening. I could have gotten so
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: much in wanky audio of Cooper and some other guy
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: just just flogging themselves to pieces with pretentiousness. Like even
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: even like Christopher Nolan would be like, whoa, whoa, come on, guys,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: this is being this is a bit too pretentiousnest week ago,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: f y.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I like, I'll be going to see that, so I'll
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: actually got to see that. I will. I will go
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Because I like, you know, ancient Greek and Roman mythology
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I think it's not based on the original one. It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: based on like a rewrite.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Oh is it? I heard?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, if you give me more more ammunition to
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: say what terrible directory is?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Pretentious?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Is something I read where he read four different like
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: versions of all four different language versions of it before
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he Yeah.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He and Cooper would get along fantastic because Cooper's basically
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: like Cooper wishes Likebrick's bitch. If if anybody's got the DVD's,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I cannot recommend enough just cracking a couple of drinks,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: put putting on this audio commentary and just laughing your
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: tits off at like, well, you know they shot this
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: on film. They shot this on sixteen millimeter, so you
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: get that rual. Basically, their inspiration is they are their
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: expression was the shield. They want to shoot like the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: shield and there's really grainy and like like it was
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: a documentary.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: They shooting it like it was a documentary, Like, will
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: didn't you already do that this season? Have nice time?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: But he's like, you know, I just want to, like
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I just want to, like, you know, like just blow
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: out all lights because like if you shooting a documentary,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't have like control over the light. So it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: okay if like the light's blown out all and like
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: and the average person watching would notice that that shot
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: was out of focus?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah would they?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: And then he goes on about all this shit but
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: his process, and then just casually mentioned that they lost
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: two entire reels of film because they were unusable because
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: they were out of focus because you know, oh, we
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: you know, we've been we've been spoilt with digital. We
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: don't think to check the gate after we've called cut
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and blah blah blah when Rush, when Rush and Daniel
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: are in his room and they're sorting through.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Stuff, so he exposed the film. No, no, so shooting
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on the film. No, No, they were just they were all
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: out of focus. He didn't expose the film, but.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: They shot a scene he called cut printed without checking
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the gate on the on the camera, so it was all.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Out of focus.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: So they said there was there was a major plot
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: stuff in the scene where Daniel and Rush are in
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: his little crazy office. There was major exposition that Daniel
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: gave that they just could not use because they had
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: no clear shots of it, so they had to That
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: whole scene was edited based on what stuff they actually
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: had left.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Done that for free.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: So he's like he's s in there like wanking off
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: about what an amazing or to a filmmaking is and
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: then gets to.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: That and then Carlo having to deal with that ship
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: before Mitch.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So when you're.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Talking about how Robert Carlile, you're like, oh, he must
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: have been so excited when he got the script, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, not when he saw who was directing it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: There's one point where Cooper like he calls cut on
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: a scene where I think Rush is lying down and
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: he's saying something or talking or whatever, and he goes
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: so he calls cut. He walks over Carl and goes,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: all right, Robert, that was great, Robert, do you want
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to how about you try doing the next one with
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: your eyes open?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: And Robert Carlor goes, Mayo's water open the whole time.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Cooper couldn't even see that his eyes were open the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: entire time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And then my favorite party.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: To do one of these, like Shanksy's there just like
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: tapping Carlo.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: This this, this is even better. You go to the
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Trivia for this episode awards. Michael Blundell won a LEO
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: for Best Cinematography in a Dramatic Series. Rick Martin won
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: a LEO for Best Picture Editing in a Dramatic Series.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Robert C. Cooper nominated for Best Direction in a Dramatic Series,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: No Win.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Robert C.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Cooper nominated for DGC Craft Awards for Outsetting Achievement in
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Direction Television Series.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: No Win.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: May'd be fine because it's just nominated.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I love the guy won a LEO for
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Best Director Best Editing because he edited around all of
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Cooper's cups.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: We can see that you worked your guts out. Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Oh honestly, it was he operating the camera.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: It was I've done it a couple of times before,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: but I was very very close to just turning off
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the commentary, Like I think we about ten minutes ago.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done, Spade down, just I'll watch
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: this one on.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's the original premise of the
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: the Cooper joke on this podcast is because of those
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: especially the SG one commentary where I was just like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: what is this guy doing? And also he kept bringing
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: back the replicators and then he kept reckconning things.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: And then he like he would always have those subtle
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: digs being like, well this isn't going to be a
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Peter Delawise or Martin Wood commentary.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You're not going to hear poopy peepy jokes here. Oh
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you don't want it to be entertained? Yeah, okay.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And then and then the pretentious twat has has the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: goal to just like he just talks down to us
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: as an audience, and it irritates me, especially when you
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: when you factor in like that whole piece of audio
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: from like two hundred where they talk about how like
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: sci fi fans are intelligent, and then Cooper has the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: goal to say this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: And again, it's very organic. It's not a you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: expensive visual effect, not at all. You know, you you
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: sort of come to expect on this, but in trying
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: to achieve that sort of natural feeling, we went with
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: things that were very in camera stylistically.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Very very simple effects.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, the fans are probably noticing right now that
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: you know, there's Michael Shanks Daniel Jackson on screen.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: So he's talking about his amazing camera heroes. But no
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: one's going to notice my amazing camera work and subtle
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: in camera effects because fans might notice Michael Shanks on
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the screen.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Mate, mate, you guys put him in the episode. We didn't.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: You guys are the ones that wrote to prove.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: The episode that had Daniel Jackson come back, and then
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: try and pretend like that's taking away from your autistic direction, Like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: What I didn't even get his point.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Listen to the to the end party is like he's
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: he's basically he's talking all about you know, we're doing
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: these amazing in camera effects, and he's like, but fans
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: will probably only notice Michael Shanks.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Right, And I'm just like, there's Michael Shanks. No, He's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like fans will, fans will, and fans will probably notice.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: We'll watch it once.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, we're too dumb to be like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: who's that guy in the glasses talking to Rush?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: He looks really familiar. Where have I seen him before? Imbecile?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: This is why we don't get any of the people
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: from the show on our on our show. I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: we haven't tried. And what's what was it?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: The fat shaming in this episode as a fat person myself.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: God, you make out some ship.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, Rush refers to some big child when he's
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: talking about Eli. He did not need to fat shame him, Elih.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Is this the first time he's played up front of
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: the like jealous of Eli?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Like, jealous of Eli's natural for this.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: This is what I noticed when I picked what I've
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: been saying, I've been focusing on Rush. He wants he's
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: disappointed that Eli is not reaching his potential. He wants
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: him to go to do the work. Instead he just
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: keeps stuffing around with Chloe. Yeah, he wants him in
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: his team, working hard, reaching his potential. And he says
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: that all the time, Like even in the last Cooper episode,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: he says to Eli, Eli can you give us a hand?
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: And then he starts lifting old mate and like carrying
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: bags and stuff, and he's like good man, like he's
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: encouraging him, yeah, to be his best, but when he's not,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: he's just like he's a flake.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Ah See.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I read it as because like he's he's maligning the
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: fact that it took him like two and a half
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: years and he could not figure out the nine chevron dress.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he's making.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: And then this keep on figures it out without even
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: really trying, just by playing a video game.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And then there's a line in there where he.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Says Eli should be the one in the chair getting
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: all this information because Eli could probably figure it out
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: better than like faster than Rush could. And he's almost
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: like jealous, like he wishes he had that natural talent
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: that Eli has for whether it's spotting like just uh,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: noticing things, whether it's a patterns or you know, codes
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, it felt
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: like like I don't think Rush ever thinks like, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Eli is smarter than him, like Russia knows that's he's
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: smarter than him. But I think he just he knows
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: that he's both has to work at it, whereas it
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: comes naturally to Eli. So, yeah, I think you're writing
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: in terms of the next step of that is he thinks,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: imagine what Eli could accomplish if he actually applied himself.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean you see that. I've seen it
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: almost every second episode. How he's like he's trying to
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: get Eli to apply himself and encourage him to do that. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: and he doesn't. Instead Eli, That's what even this rewatch
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: watching Eli has actually done not much at all to
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: help the science team or help discover anything in the ship.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: He just comes in at the last end because youngers
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: go do this and yeah, all right, I'll look through
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: the videotapes.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I wonder if it is because partly because
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: young has basically put him in as a like a
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: double agent, like like I need you to keep an
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: eye on Rush.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And report the best way to keep an eye on
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: him is to look over his shoulder, And that's true.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Instead, Yeah, I mean, if it was weird, maybe he
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: would have been smart enough to.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: And I think Rush Rush might sound resent resentful, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I think he might be feeling that frustration because he
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: did not spend time with his wife when she was
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: dying to do this, and then Eli's kind of like
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: just come.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Into figured it out by playing a video game, yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: you know, for fun, you know, yeah, in his in
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: his pajamas.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: What do you figured it out? I think that's what
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: that makes me wonder. That's why I talk about how
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: deeper this writing is in this show. I wonder if
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: he thinks that Eli would have figured it out if
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: he was under as much pressure as Rush yeah, or.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: If yeah yeah, or if Rush is, if he wasn't
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: so emotionally attached, that he would have figured it out
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: himself in that two and a half years before needing Elion,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: but instead, like that's why when he's reliving it, he's
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: trying to emotionally distance himself from what's going on with
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: his wife because that was what brought him down the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: first time. Like he's already went through it, he's already
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: lost the real person, so he doesn't need to be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: sad all over again. He can't help it, but he's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: trying to get away from that, going well, if I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was just if I was still where I was at
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: this point in my life, going through what I'd already
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: gone through until that day where she went into you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: had a relapse.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Could I figure it out?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But it's like, no, because you still know what you
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: did when you did it when you weren't there, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: the fact that you couldn't And yeah, then having to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: admit to Daniel, he just I couldn't do what he did,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: not when he did it, not how he did it,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: not as quickly as he did it. So yeah, yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: that's where I started it, Like I've never I felt
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: sorry for him in moments. It was something that where
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I think I now I'm understanding why
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I felt sorry for you, and I think I was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: feeling sorry if you.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Not so much the character, but Robert.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Carlisle's acting in the early stages, Whereas now that you're
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: actually telling me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: In words why.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You did that acting choice back then, even if you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: didn't realize why you did it because you hadn't had
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: that this episode written or something like. It was just
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: all the pieces were starting to come together quite well,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: which obviously in the writing and not the directing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Obviously the writing and the acting. Yeah, it was a.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Little bit in the writing because Cooper also changed the
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: name of this episode.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying its absolutely the writing well he did write it,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: so Cooper didn't write it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: He was written by just a one off, just some
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: guy guy, Jeff Flaming. But the original episode title was
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Lucid and then Cooper changed it to human.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I was like, lateral move? Is that because of Vanilla
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Skuy Lucid dream?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I think he probably just didn't know what the word
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: or he's like he's like people watching won't understand.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I blink and you'll miss it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Line though that I noticed in this Daniel says, our
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: sources in the Loucian Alliance helped them find the Icarus planet.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, so, then why are you so
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: surprised that they bombarded the planet from orbit? Yeah?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Later part one, two or three.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like obviously like yeah, the Loution Alliance
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: know about it, because but is it kind of like
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: when we had like are we working with the Lootion Alliance?
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: We can't unless we're working with part of the Lootion
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Alliance Or was it like with the Tokrah Like how
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: like Tokra had operatives inside the do we have operatives inside?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It's a planet that they've had their eye on, but
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: they don't have any before and then when they catch
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: winds earthlings are there that they bomb the out.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: But is it is it humans that we've inserted into
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: the Lootion Alliance or is it Lootion Alliance people that
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: we've turned you know what I mean? Like it's yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: it's an interesting kind of little just throwaway line where
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa, that's and then think about what we
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: know about the loucial line that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Had me thinking, because this is a dream, is that
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: just Russia's mind talking to himself saying this is like
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: the ninth Chevron thing when LOUTIONI lines came to Icarus.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: You figured out that the ninth Chevron was actually a
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: code because he says that in this episode and then
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: he says, yeah, he says it's a code. So then
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: like he did in air part one, Yeah, so I'm thinking,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: is Daniel there just to remind him of what happened
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: on Icarus?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: That's a code? This is also a code what you're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: looking in.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: The same way the number forty six kept showing up everywhere.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: That's not a bad thought. That's not a bad thought
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: That's it comes came to me when I was kind
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: of putting that recap together. Yeah, okay, that's interesting.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That's what these these the way of telling these episodes
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: or these stories where you are inside someone's mind, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: can it gets tricky, but you can play around with
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: fun like that, like what is this actually because you
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: do get like the probably the people that Roberts Coop
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: is talking about that will watch an episode like this
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and go oh okay, so yeah, okay, so someone went
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: into his dream and told it's like, no, this is
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: his own head.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: It's just his his.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Brain is trying to figure out a way to tell
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: itself on a conscious level that it's already seen the information.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: You've walked past this and you've seen this conscious So
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I love I love that theory that that's that he's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: throwing that in there, not as direct information, but as
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a reference to try and piece that together like yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Code bro, code code co e. Great. Yeah wow yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Because and then it throws back to like the start
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: of the episode when you don't realize it at the time,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: but it's when his wife says, oh, you know, we
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: have that doctor's appointment at four, and he just pulls
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: open one of his notepas and just writes four question
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: mark question mark question mark and at the time you're like, what,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: So it's like he could be remembering that that actual
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: appointment was not at four o'clock, in the same way
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: the day the date she died wasn't April sixth, But
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: he's just picked that up as another little element because who.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Knows how long he'd like in that, like the timeline
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that he was sort almost revisiting. Yeah, how long he'd
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: already been in the chair for, like he'd been experiencing
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a day earlier than that, a week earlier than that.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I whond if there's a Keener episode that explains and
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: shows in the chair.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Oh wonder, yeah, Google, I have I have.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: No memory of the b plot though, of the of
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: the whole on the planet, getting stuck underground in the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: in the maze, and.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: And then being left behind on the planet, I have
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: zero memory of it.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: To get into that the the Chloe. I was pissing
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: myself when they like they got like a scanback or
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, you know, showing some the ruins.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: They're like, is that a building?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's evidence of maybe a previous civilization.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: She is human.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think? Oh? Yeah, human? You idiot, do you
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: know where we are? That's why that's why Cooper named
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the episode human was the last four months of your life? Yeah, silly.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Literally at the start of the episode, when she's like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: she's like abducted by aliens right here on this ship.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Were they human?
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: No, speaking of speaking of the the gould here to
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: track humans?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Two different.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Human great question, they said, there's no dumb questions. Yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: apparently she pulled a Jonas Quinn there. I've read Daniel
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Jackson's Yeah Diary, therefore I'm an expert at Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: But she does talk about how there's humans in the
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Milky Way and humans in the Pagasus Galaxy, and then
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: doesn't realize that that's because the ancients put them there,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Like the ancients said that about and then the girl
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: will spread humans and it's like, you do remember, Chloe,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: that the ancient have never set foot on destiny, Like
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: that's the whole point of it's sending out.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'm still not convinced that isn't you.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I just said the clot the start of that of
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It was this week. That was the bit where I'm like,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, absolutely, And just when he tells us
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: this at the end of of STU. Yeah, I'll go
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you the whole time.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: It's like, how am I that's one? That's two, that's three.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: It's from an episode of it, So it's tarting like
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: it's it's that thing. It's just going to reveal at
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the end. But I actually I loved you bal do
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the Chloe song. Actually interesting, if we need do the
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Star Trek, didn't you say a bit about the Star Trek?
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: That's one, that's two, that's three that it is, or
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not mentioned that. I'm sure we did, but obviously
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: it's seven eight years ago this one when we mentioned
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: it off.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He surely would have mentioned, Oh maybe, I don't know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: But it's been brought a couple of times because I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: remember when Holly from Lonnie realized it was in a
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: mail back.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: We spoke about it in a mailbag as well.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but it makes sense that Peop wouldn't remember
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: after like seven or whatever.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: It makes sense even if you hadn't have said it,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: someone would put that together because whenever I bring up
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings, we needed Lord of the Rings.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, we the whole time we've
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: known that it was the Star Trek thing, even though
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: we haven't seen the episode.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I should watch it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: It's a great episode. It's one of my favorites actually,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: and much like t J. It's an episodehere Ki and
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Teresa's pregnant and because she was, the actress was pregnant
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: in real life.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Ok I'll take it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: That's whatever this for this, but okay, it's really really
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: cool because the actress became pregnant in real life to
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: one of the other actors on the show, right, Saucy
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: co respond But then but then her character is an
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: ex terrorist, so they're like, well, we it wouldn't make
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: sense for her character. It'd be like if you made
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Carter pregnant, right, terrorist, it wouldn't It wouldn't make sense.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: So what they did is the head of the Jani
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Cole Meenie, the guy from Connairy, that guy, right, He
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: and his Cako, they made Cako pregnant, right, But then
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: she got into a shuttle accent with Kira Bishia and herself,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: and because she was hurt, they had to beam the
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: baby out of Cako and put it into Kira, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: then Kira had to take the baby to term and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: then give it back to cole meenie and and cako Jesus,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: how does that work? Thinking well, yeah, baby, But that
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: way she was able to like go through the whole pregnancy,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: but then she didn't have a baby at the end.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're a woman, all the baby's beach.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Hold down real quick, lunch.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: My niece got a sea section a couple of weeks ago,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: and she was at a hospital in like three days.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: But also they said they do once they once they
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: numbed them and put the screen up, right, they tested
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: with ice, so they go, okay, we're gonna put a
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: piece of ice here, like on your shoulder. You should
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: feel that, but anything below there you should. She could
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: feel the touch of the ice, but couldn't feel the cold,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: and they're like perfect, and.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Then don't move.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Then they put the screen up and she's talking to
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: her husband, and then the nurse just kind of pops
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and go, oh, by the way, we've started, uh, And
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: they were already into her like she didn't even She's like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't even get a countdown. They didn't even say okay,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: we're about to start. And the whole procedure in and
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: out like fifteen minutes. Yeah, it doesn't tell it long,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: like her doctor, like her the sea section was done
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: like midday. That was that doctor's fourth sea section of yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: wild man, Like, that's nuts.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I've went through a sea section. But like the doctor
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: come in, it's like he's already done this eight times today.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean yeap, Like this is
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest memorable moments of my entire life. Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and you've done this for like eight different families two days,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like this would mean nothing to you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy. But she was in and out of that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: room in like fifteen minutes. That's crazy. Okay.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: We've already mentioned the idea that like they get left,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: but as it's happened, oh we're stuck.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, there's only two hours ago. We don't know
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: if we're going to get out.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, and in my head again first time,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: or I'm thinking, Okay, how many times can we get
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: away with this?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: You know, like we kind of it this week? Obviously
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it gets a bit older.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then they get left and I'm like, oh, okay,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: we're not just doing that again.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Also, I think it was kind of Scott's fault or
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: potentially the writer's fault, all the director's fault. It's like
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: when we when we pull up to the planet and
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: the wormhole opens, and then what was that? What was
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: the technicians going? It was his name, the one we
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: talked about last week, cold Vulgar, Volca whatever. He's like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: six hours on the clock, all right, And then the
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: young's all right, suit up. They have the whole conversation
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: with clever clever any line stuff, and then they go
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: to the planet. They walk over far it is and
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: find the ruins, so you assume it's it's been at
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: least half an hour to an hour, you would think, right,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and then the scott goes, well, we've got about six
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: hours to find out. I'm like that math ain't mathen
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Like there was six hours on the clock, so you
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: would have five hours minimum, like to get back safely.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm like Scottie boy or I guess with that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Then at the end where they try to, you know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: blow their way back out, and what do they have
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: at that stage, Like it was it was inside half
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: now maybe it was less then.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh it didn't work.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: If anything, it made things worse, and they're young speaking
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: to God going hey, don't lose hope. Well, yeah, how
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: much hope is there left to have right now? Because
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: they've got to figure out a way to do it
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: do it granted they're not injured through the saving, they've
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: then got to get back to the gate, which we've
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: already worked out is further.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Away than the time they have. I'm going to say
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that there is no hope anymore.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: But good on you phone on an optimistic boss at
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the other end of the phone call after it was all.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: His fault, of course, for being scared of his little
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the little bug. We're not so little bug, but why
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: not single shot in the face. He even says we've
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: got C four and Scott's like that's probably gonna make
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: things worse. And then the rescue party arrives and James goes,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: we've got C four and he's like, okay, we'll just
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: stand back, Like what by that stage?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm willing to try it. I'll allow it
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: because it's James and she's great.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Well, she wasn't great in this instance, was she? And
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so you look at it. Helmet off she was. I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: leave it on that she was a bomb. Yeah, everything,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I'll just leave the helmet on. You can leave, you
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: can leave your helmet on.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: It.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Well, this is what I was talking about for a
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. Is what annoys me about the
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Keynot so ELI can put it into search mode. You
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: can go around the whole ship and figure everything out.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: You can send it into space outside of the ship.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: You can send it through the gate tells you all
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: this stuff. It does all these remarkable things, but it
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't have a return mode. Yeah, maybe it had been
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: searched that off. If it had search mode, it would
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: have known how to get Maybe he was just.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I've got a robot.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: That's my bottom floor of my house and can get
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: back to its charging board. Ancients couldn't do that with
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: a little portable returned the base. Yeah, yeah, press the button.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And then he said he didn't find anything anyway. So
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I would rather just go back to the ship than
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: wait for a Keno ball one hundred of them. Who
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: cares if you don't get the footage? Yeah, hands the foot.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: We don't have the footage. Doesn't it download to the controller?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I would say no, I'd say that's I think, Yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I think the whole thing is Yeah, the he's got
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: to downloaded off the Keno. Yeah, I think the keynot
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: has got like a it's got a USB put in
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: the back of it. You've got to like plug in,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: because ye don't. I mean the ancients did have the
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: little charging pads, but I mean a couple.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I know we mentioned it, but the idea they could
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: just hook up a USB see and turn it into
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: a thing for surgery, so well, so helpful, good on Ancients.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: There's a goof on the wiki, and I saw it
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: on Prime as well, around the when they reached the planet,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: around the sixteen minute mark. I saw this like a car,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: but I cannot see it. I couldn't see it either.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: I couldn't see I'm assuming it's the it's the pullback point.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: It's where they pull back and you get the fullest
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: view of the ruins, right, I'm assuming it's when they're
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: they're not three foot which has three which is the
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: wide shot of them walking from the gate towards the room.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Which is yeah shot here.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: So that's why here there's like a little bit of
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: grass here, which you kind of might think that it's.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I thought it might be sixteen oh three less
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: the previously on. That's the thing run time wise because
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I think if you factor in the previously on being
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: a minute and a half or two minutes, if you
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: go to like, if you go to like eighteen minutes,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: it's the pullback.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: On the sixteen o three minus anything for minutes, it's
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: just the Daniel and and and rush in the in
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: the UNI, in the in the seating.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: So mm, yeah, yeah, I looked for that, but I couldn't.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: So yeah, if anyone, if anyone does spot it, feel
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: free to d M S or baker Bug.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: What do you do your x satus do you do?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: You still tweet?
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Damn tweet? No, I mean if you want to tweet, like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I think the verb is still tweet, isn't it?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Surely not?
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Wonder if this is what they're talking about, Like it's
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: not a still car. They're saying it's like a moving car.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: But I think it's in the foreground. It's it's the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: top of the blader grass. That's what you just said.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I missed that while I was searching for it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, Well if it is the blade of
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: grass and whoever put that trivia and it's probably.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: It is in two different places unless Ryan rips it
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: from the Stargate fandom wiki bit yeah.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Or even if if the aspect ratio is I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I watched it on the physical media DVD. So, like
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I said, depending on you guys, Like, what are you
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: guys both on Prime or yes, that's say in terms
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: of finding out what what is sixteen oh three the
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: same frame for both of you on the both definitely Prime?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, so yeah, but yeah, I don't I couldn't
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: find it either. You just said I think it's the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Blade of Grass. I'm like, hey, let'll tell you what
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: it might You didn't see.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Hold up his laptop with the Blade of Grass because
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I think you were on your laptop for the Blader
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: g Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: We're very helpful. Yeah, does that can hold that cameras?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Google doesn't always help. Yeah, two people can do it
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: once and then one of those people idiot.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I have to share this and this will probably be
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: that's three for me. But I was trolling on We're
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: not really trolling, but I was trying to educate people
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: on a Star Trek Academy Cycon page on Facebook that
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I'm on. Uh, and Robert Poccardo obviously Stargett Alump who
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: played who played Wolves?
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Woolsey was.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: He posted a little picture on his own Facebook the
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: other day being like, oh, I'm doing eighty r for
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: for season two of Academy that's already been canceled and
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: stuff like that, And a lot of the you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: chuds and tinfoil hat people have been like, oh, season
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: twos never give to see the light of.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Day, Chuds, paramounts.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like a chode No, It's just it's
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: kind of like a you know, like when people call
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: what's what's the not Neanderthal? What's the other one that
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: people use? You you reach added uh. Anyway, a lot
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: of the conspiracy theorists and and you know people who
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: are against wool Credisian store Troke are saying, you're like,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: season two is never gonna see the light of day.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: But Robert Pocado is, well, I'm I'm literally in a
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: booth recording ad R for season two. So so I
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: just posted the things saying, you know, something positive to
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: counter all the tinfoil haters saying season two won't see
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: the light of day. Post production is still happening, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Crystal Dawn says Christ that's her name, Crystal says. Google
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: says the show is canceled, but they will televise it
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: on Paramount Plus. Did you read my comment, Crystal? Did
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: you read my comment? And of course Google knows what
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Paramount are going to do with the show, like that's
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: what happens when people google things.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's good that we don't. We don't
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: always google. That's a shame. The line has to be
• 52:34
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• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I do? What did I do?
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