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Bonus Patreon Release: Lee Forrester! With Anthony Laudani and Alicia Wilder! · Graymalkin Lane the podcast

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Green Mocking Lane Patreon channel where we get to take off overlooked characters and give them the love that they have always deserved.
• 0:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love doing a supporting character.
• 0:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: There is a long list of supporting characters I love and this one's here at the top, but we just haven't got to her yet.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is the amazing character of a latest or lead forester.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I write a lot of X-Men stories just to kind of practice, and I did a whole huge story earlier last year with Lee as like one of the primary characters.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got really in her head.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: I really love her, and then I think her biggest fan might be Anthony who's with this today, Anthony's like, please, please, Lee for Mr.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: Please.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: I also invited the Alicia Wilder who got to voicely on our X-Men unlimited script reading and that crazy bloodstream dimension.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so happy to be here both here.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me have you introduce yourselves with your names and pronouns.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let us know a little about you and I'd love to hear your preliminary thoughts on what makes Lee Forster and amazing character besides the fact that she's the only person we know about who has fucked both Cyclops and Maggito.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, thank you so much for having me.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Glad to be on again and I'm just over the moon to be on here and talking about not have to talk about Ice Man of all characters.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, no offense, but I mean, I'm happy to be talking about my passion, which is the simple and worshiping of strong female characters and the X-Men books, like a proper game and would, especially for this character, Captain Alidus Lee Forster, who I have to say, I will admit I think of almost every day, but I'm actually wearing like the only pieces of Lee Forster merch probably available on the market, from front of the pod, a cerebral podcast.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a sure of all like the flat scan human allies.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the flat scan ally, sure, it's so funny.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it has like her lean her up half Smith attire done by the incredible care and charm.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'll just have to start and say like why I have such a great love and funness for this character.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's very well liked, I mean, character by like most fans, pretty much everyone that knows her, like has a general liking to her.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but she is relatively minor, much less doesn't have hardcore fans.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I will say, I mean, if she has stands that I'm easily one of them,
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if there's one thing you can say about the gaze, especially the comic book gaze, they're relentless with their favorite characters.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll stand a woman that has been in a mystical, mad comic book appearances.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and how can you not like a character by the most insane creator name?
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Elidas with two wives.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was like some old like old-timey name.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think also too my great finalist was who's my first star reading the X-Men comic books.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just like I didn't know better as a child.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would just go into my local comic book store and pick out comics with like the prettiest colorful images and artwork.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just think I remember picking up one of my first sloppies and it was the classic on Kenny X-Men 148.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: It had that really great artwork from Dave Cockrum, Storm, Spider Woman, Jessica Drew, Dazzler, and Calban with K-Pride.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's actually funny that X-Men issue was one of my first introductions, so Lee, as the B plot was of Scott and Lee having their swept away plotline, where we'd see them have naked with chiseled abs and shredded, tried clothing and pretty much next to nothing.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, in her standard, Daisy Dukes.
• 3:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I think in retrospect, I think this was my sexual awakening, I guess.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you see that image panel, I mean, it's bisexual catnip, so well-rounded, dynamic.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, even though she was introduced as a love interest, as the rebound from for Scott, when Jean passed away at that time with Dark Phoenix saga, and she was like the pro-type male and prior.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it really just seemed like the character had a really great journey through the X-Men lore.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she has 20 appearances, which is not that much for most X-Men characters, but Lee is just like they're all of us.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's a drop-dead gorgeous bombshell, and a hard worker with daddy issues, and she's very passionate about her career trajectory and just invested in your future.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And just in the way, just going by and surviving with all of life's difficulties, especially with the X-Men's her own end.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But okay, she just needs someone occasionally on the side to she needs a hot guy to make out with
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I'm making a quick note, create a character named by sexual cat lip.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're welcome, I'm going to leave your mouth under the show.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hi, Lisa.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm Alicia Wilder.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I usually hear pronouns.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so thankful to be here.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love doing anything great, Malcolm Lane.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all know me from doing X-Men and limited scripts or doing trials.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do in my own podcast, the XY podcast, but I'm super pumped to be here.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think for me, the thing that I really was drawn to about Lee is like, I'm deep in romanticy, dark romance books right now.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like, A, Lee, Aletus is a name that I couldn't pronounce when I first read it.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That fits perfectly into a fantasy book.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: B, she's a strong woman who can take care of things on her own.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: That fits perfectly into a romanticy book.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And C, she likes to have sex with all the men she encounters.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So she should just get her own smart book.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure why it hasn't happened yet, but she's perfect.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's right in line with all the characters that I've been coming fond of by reading all these novels.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that's sort of like, let's suck into my head the most.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she really loves a good outfit change.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: That girl loves to change her clothes.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm here for it.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited to dig into a character that I didn't really know a ton about before prepping for this and have conversations with like someone who loves her so much and gets like really learn more about her from your perspective Anthony.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really excited about that.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just grateful to be here.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Alicia, when you did her voice on the script reading, I remember saying to you, like, oh, we need to do a leaf war strap, so this is a new door.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: So first of all, a latest is a real name, but it's spelled differently in the comics.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: A latest is usually spelled A, L, E, Y, D, I, S. It's a Dutch name, and it means of noble kin.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it descends from our it's a variant of an old high German name, which is Autolatus, which is like a medieval kind of aristocratic name.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it means of noble kin.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: The last name is forester, which generally refers to like the King's forest, right?
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like the the people who take care of the forest.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she's got kind of that noble name.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: A latest forester, or Lee, we're just gonna call her Lee, is a Claremont name who does not pilot a ship, but she does pilot a boat.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: She looks gorgeous, basically all the time, even though she or pretty much is always so sweaty, her clothes are always being torn off.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's a tough girl who has a bunch of guys working for her.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's got, she's got that kind of like straight guy fantasy where she's like the gorgeous bombshell blonde who will like be
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: you arm wrestling but also really want to fuck you and still like gorgeous even though she can like do manual labor all day.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: This woman is on a ship that is full of fish.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: There are entire compartment full of fish.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: She does not smell good but she's very stunning and she's got kind of a cute low level version of like vulnerability under the surface.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know Claire wants intention for creating her, but we first meet her in uncanny X-Men 143, which means she shows up right around the same time dazzling and kitty pride do, as far as first appearances go, and not long after the hellfire club in Emma Frost.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she's been in the X-Men for a long tie.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Gingray and Madeline prior, excuse me, Scotty has not met Madeline yet.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Gingray has recently died and Scott is grieving and he's off on his own and when he's in a place called Shark Bay Florida, by the way, this is a Claremont burn collab.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: He sees an advertisement from a Lee Forester who is the captain of their Arcadia and he assumes it's a boy because the name is Lee which is great and he shows up at the ship and he sees this pretty blonde and a white tank top and like purple, sporty suit and she has a little black cap and do you guys have the dialogue or do you have my my notes pulled up?
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: So do you want to read Cyclops Anthony and Alicia will you read Lee?
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I'll do my most masculine straight voice.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking for a leaf or a stir, captain of the Arcadia.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was told he was hiring group.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaf or a stir, a leadist to my relatives, and you heard right.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're a girl.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, wait, this is going to be the line for the whole show.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're a girl.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's so stupid.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: God, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're a girl.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Care to try that again, sport.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I apology accepted.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Scott, Scott Summers.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come aboard Scott.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll split a pot of coffee and talk.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, she's so cute.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: In 144, we open on the Florida Everglades.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's the man things swamp.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't have time to go into the man thing.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Go look about it.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a whole thing.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: A lonely man smokes a cigarette.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's leaning against a tree.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: The doctor was honest and his gentle as a person can be when she tells an old friend he's going to die.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Diagnosis cancer inoperable, incurable, prognosis ever increasing in feeblemen to physical and mental faculties.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: ever increasing pain, death within a year, from the hospital, Jock Forester came home to the swamp he'd known and loved since childhood, to make the most important decision of his life, to fight this disease, and pray that some miracle might save him, or end things quickly, cleanly, in his own way, his own time.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Jock does not realize that the moment he entered this blade, his decision was made for him.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we see kind of an old man, this is Leeds Dad.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, marrying my darling.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why couldn't I have died with you?
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why?
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, Lord.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why?
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: This way.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's so unfair.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's got a picture of his wife next to him and a gun and he's going to commit suicide.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the man thing lumber's nearby.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: But so does one of my all-time favorite X-Men villains who no one ever talks about.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: The demon despair and despair is de-a-postrophy.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: S-P-A-Y-R-E. Love this guy.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think he's so fucking fun.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and it's not like of his name is so perfect, especially when like it's also associated with like the actual word despair, right after it all the time and I'm just like, hmm, that is one of the most bastardized superhero names in comics, uh, at least are you familiar with despair?
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not outside of this moment and the one moment he showed up in this section that I was reading.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, we're not discussing America in 2025.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're just going to be Manu's goal paid.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Disparat has a smattering of X-Men appearances over the years.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's fought a number of super villains.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Anthony is this guy you know at all?
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, from the Lee Force.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's, yeah, from this initial Lee Force story and then the cable story.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I think he encounters a, and he's an Excalibur as well.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know a Knight Collar and Amanda Scepton face him.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's delicious.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I really love him.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: He definitely deserves a Patreon someday.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll add him to the list.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: But he arrives just in time for Jock to shoot himself in the head.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, despair is a demon guy.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Think like nightmare or like, you know, like a lesser demon.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: But his thing is he can pull on your mind and like manifest your fears to freak you out.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then he feeds off of the despair that you feel.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: So here we have this man suffering with depression.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's caught between the despair demon and man thing whose power is to whatever you fear.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: If he touches you, you will burn because of your fear.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: So he is dead Lee, a jukeforster, kills himself right here at the start.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's Lee's dad.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: We get the caption that says Midway down the west coast of Florida is the fishing port of Shark Bay and tied up to the Canary Warf.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: This fine winter afternoon is the traveler, Arcadia.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's been at sea a month scouring the Gulf and Atlantic fishing ground.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: and she's returned with a full hold.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: The full hold, a most successful trip.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's not surprising.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Arcadia is a fine ship, skippered by a latest forester, Jock's only child.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: One of the best captains on the coast and her crew is superb.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: The latest addition to that crew is Scott Summers.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Six weeks ago, his wanderings brought him to Shark Bay on impulse.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: He signed aboard Arcadia.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: He hasn't regretted it.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: We also need a character named Paolo here, and Paolo is this hard luck-loose employee on the ship.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Who has a lot of shit happened to him?
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's talking about Paolo as you go.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: We go.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: You've got a big old nose.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: He tries pulling Cyclops's sunglasses off for fun and is like, hey, let's have a fist fight.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, and he asks Lee why she hired Scott in the first place, and she says,
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hold on.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lee was not ready.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was looking at Chad because he's beautiful.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Paolo and I'm tired to see nothing but you guys.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You guys is ugly mugs.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: So there's all these workers on the business.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I need to pretty boy.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: So later the team is playing pool.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: They get food at a place called the shanty and Lee thinks.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't kidding, Scott is beautiful, strong, gentle, yet hurting, deep inside.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like him a lot, maybe too much, but then I always was a sucker for a bird with a broken wing.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just literally a line for a season two of White Lotus, when Albee's talking to a fling porcelain he likes as he likes girls with like broken wings, he likes wounded birds.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's got a playing pool with Frank and Lee learns that she's missed a cough from her dad.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she invites Scott to go home overnight with her two citrus build.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now that we're away from all the other guys and the smelly fish, let's go home to my house.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can meet my dad and Wolfuck.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: They've known each other six weeks now.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they write on a fanboat across the water and Lee thinks to herself,
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I should have brought Paolo.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He and Dad are old pals instead, I brought Scott.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was selfish of me, I guess, but I feel comfortable and good with him.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know him better.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want him to know me better.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Scott thinks, these attracted to me.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wish I knew how to handle this.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like her, but I want to get involved with anyone.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: not yet.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love this level of self-awareness.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's attracted to me in the beautiful blood girl.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: They come up on Lee's quote, family ancestral homestead.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this is like deep in the Florida Everglades.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she thinks, that works like a dog to give me and mom to...
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me do that again.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dad works like a dog to give mom and me the good life.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then when the time came to reap the fruits of his labor, mom died.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: He never got over that.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Her death left a void in his heart that nothing since has ever really filled.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's got things I know the feeling.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: They said that dog thinks that all thinks that.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Lisa is her dad.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's there.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Remember the demon is around.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: He comments and she comments on how skinny he is.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: And, uh, excuse me, he says, I've been a, I've been at sea, all work, no food, and she hugs him, but it's actually despair.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she thinks, oh, she's got, pop, killed himself this morning.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I helped him do it.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Nope, sorry, that's me.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: The demons of pop killed himself this morning.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I helped him do it and he slaps her down the stairs And then he traps Lee and Scott in his realm where he tortures Scott with memories of his greatest fears Do you guys want to talk about Scott's little little visions in this issue?
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying yeah, I don't have the actual image.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's okay.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I hope that we'll move on
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Lee passes out from her own fears and Scott has to rush out of the burning state of her father while man thing ends up confronting despair.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: And this is a two-day the most densely forester story.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Most of her other appearances are about her relationships or her just kind of kicking ass or having a team up with the X-Men.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: But this is the one where we get like a lot of pathos.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: We get to see her as a horny, hard-working woman who has some daddy issues maybe.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: but also her family home burns down her dad dies.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she is moving into like a sad wounded burn herself.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: And not everything, her partner's got loves more than a girl who needs them.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: What are your thoughts on this initial issue, Anthony?
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was, yeah, it's definitely set the stage really as a character.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's mostly a scots summer.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is actually where we get into his origin.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: We get to know first of all how his powers emerge.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is where we actually see his mom, Katherine, and father as we know what was his name.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, Sarah, okay, for it.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, we're just to see how he, him, and Alex like jumped out of the burning plane and how that he's powers emerge.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not really, Lee is like, it's definitely she does have a story line in this, but she's more supporting and she's more just the, um, and just initially sets the stage like for Scott as a one-shot for him.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just because we're knowing like where he's at, I'm currently in the uncanny books, but definitely great introduction like to their potential romance definitely starts to blossom.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can see where it's blossoming.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like they just hooked up immediately the next issue, but yeah, it was
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: When Despair pulls Scott down to hell, you've got to picture this demon like it's a normal human and he's like, oh no, you're scared of being fired or you're scared of being naked in front of your classroom.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no, the people's this guy down to me is like holy shit like open Scott's mind.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: He initially assaults him with memories of like his parents dying in the plain crash jumping out of the plane with his brother landing on the ground getting his head hurt.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: He gets visions of seeing all of the X men die, but then turn on him.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: But then he has to like fight on them one at a time, but then they come back zombies and they're like overwhelming Scott who's so overwhelmed then Jean like comes at him in a bikini and like as he goes to embrace her like suddenly they're at their wedding he's in a full costume with a white suit coat and a flower.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: and jeans in a white bikini, but then she morphs into the green mini dress and then the green Phoenix costume and then the black hellfire like evil costume and then the dark Phoenix costume and then she like turns all evil and then she's back in her bridal gown and as they are getting ready to kiss she yanks his visor up and he kills her with a blast and like in disbelief like
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh, why don't you tell me like he really he really put Scott through it here.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just like he is so savage and it's so funny because like I see the things that he presents to people and I'm like oh my god you're terrible and then I think about Danny Moon star and I'm like go get him Danny.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like and they're the same.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're doing the same thing.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Any comments on this first appearance before are this detailed appearance before we keep going?
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think it's interesting how like she doesn't know anything about Scott, right?
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like she doesn't know that he's in X man.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't know like what's going on with him.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like I just love how she's just, I don't know, for her first moment to be the moment where he's like your girl and she her response is you want to try that again.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that being like one of her first lines for me is just like, yeah, exactly.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to try that again?
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: He likes the, she likes a wounded bird and all the guys in the ship were like, why did you hire this guy?
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's pretty, he keeps his sunglasses on all the time.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was nothing about the sea.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Despair by the way, 40 appearances.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this guy has a little bit of history.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so we jump to 145.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Scott washes up on the beach and his Ruby court's glasses are gone.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he rips his shirt off and ties a band around his eyes and helps Anthony sexually awaken at this
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean you had to see this panel.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm sure people have seen it's of them too.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just like in torn up clothing I'm looking at right now.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like I said they're both in Scott's and Jayce Dukes too.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of funny.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well Like how did I don't know how the on my restore it was it must have really been a
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: thinking for the readers is a blew off all their clothing.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, gorgeous.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is just iconic, um, dive cap, run, um, and declare a matron.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: So definitely a definitely gives like the sets of the stage for more like Lee Forster characterization and like her joining like a officially a deranged of like the great supporting characters.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: So absolutely.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she rushes up on the beach and finds Scott there in yells.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Scott, oh Scott, thank heavens you're all right.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: When the storm separated us, I thought you'd drowned for sure.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: She still doesn't know about his mutant power, although this may have kept a sunglasses on for weeks and weeks.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: She tells them I've got paramedic training.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, where are we?
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she says somewhere in the Bahamas, which means civilization should be literally right around the corner.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We survive.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We wait for someone to find us.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the Coast Guard is on its toes, if we're lucky, we could be picked up today tomorrow, anytime.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: We could be here the rest of our lives, except I'm reading the last line as, oh, or we could be here for the right lives.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: She goes down to court.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, laid a bed of leaves already in the cave back there.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: So in 146, Scott and Lee are like taking shelter.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what, actually, I bet there was a boat and she burned it.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: She likes she like let it loose.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I'm staying on this island with this man.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you like my bikinis that I made of leaves?
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no, my pants fell off.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Scott, we have to do.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they have to take shelter from a storm in 146.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: She sees his optic blast for the first time.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: And in 147, they are snugly.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he is shirtless.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when she wakes up, when he wakes up, he calls her gene.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, oh, boo.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hell, that's what I'm trying to do.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then they turn around and they see a giant mythical city on the island behind them.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, at least are you familiar with this location?
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not really.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everything that I am unfamiliar with, I have had a taste of thanks to your show.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably, that's probably the closest I've come is like a reference.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love that we're taking like slow rides through the early script, uh, and then you'd like know the stories and delibly.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's so fun doing that.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is an island magneto raised from the bottom of the sea floor and he makes it a base and there's like a bunch of old like pre-Atlantic and magic shit on there It's like a palace with crazy demons and statues everywhere and he lives there for quite a while later a guy named the animator
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: animal human hybrids one is a guy named Birdboy and he joins the new mutants for a little while.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this island ball history with X-Men lore which is really fun.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: So we jump to 148 cyclops and we are basically naked and dripping wet as they enter this weird castle.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: They realize they're in the brimuda triangle.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lee is like, are these like the little statues and she's like, you know, Scott's blind, right?
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, as he lost his visor.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: So his eyes are covered.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Scott says, I'm having a hard time dealing with being led around like this, blindfolded as I am.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel so blasted, helpless.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, oh, yeah, I hated too.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Each cloud, it's silver lining.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: At least you're spared the sight of the shocking state of our wardrobe.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: What wardrobe?
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: My point, exactly.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And why would she not want him to see that?
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, she's just, she's just hardcore flirting.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, she kisses Scott right on the mouth, he kisses her back, he pulls away.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: He still feels very terrible about his dead wife.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she likes a nice guy, she likes a nice guy and told this moment.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, here's what Scott says.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like you, Lee.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I care for you too much, but it's too soon.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to get involved again.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not asking for involvement.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, we only fuck twice Scott.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bees, I just want a bow.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you feel Scott.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about grief and loss.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: We buried my father two months ago, remember?
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm cold and hungry and scared.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need a little human warmth and compassion and companionship.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's more than you can give, then blazes with you.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she goes run and off and she leaves him confused and stunned.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he lets off an optic blast in frustration.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she says she comes back to him and she says, I'm sorry Scott, I shouldn't have run out on you.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we both needed to blow off a little steam.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: She gives him a hug.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry too.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mean to slap you down.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, I'm afraid Lee, I've taken another risk of being hurt.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Life is a risk all the way down the line.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you came back.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I need you.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need each other.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the narrator said, night passes in too lonely young people find peace in each other's arms, drawing what strength they can from this still fragile emotional bond, while trying not to think of what will happen to that bond in the future.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Both are aware that the question may become academic if they don't soon both find food and water.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I read that in a sexy voice for you all.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Next day they're discussing food and how Scott's a last attempt to optic blast some fish in the water didn't turn out to be great and then suddenly a magneto is there in full costume.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's his island and Lee has the biggest fucking smile on her face when Magneto shows up.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Here is the two men on an island.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are both hot and mutant and I am ready for it.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you Lee for Sir Romanticie book.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's here.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is her desert island fantasy.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's her exact cake.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: It always has been.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love this for her.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Any thoughts?
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get em' me.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that she is, again, doing, you know, the clap.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's not the damsel in distress.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, no, I don't, I'm not in love with you.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're full.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to get it on and keep myself busy while we're trapped on this island.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not ready to commit me.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: We only snuggled one night.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I don't like that.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: To commit yet, like, I haven't even met Maggie.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, give me some time.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think my needles are real to love if I'm being on it.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll get into that.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can agree.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a relationship.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but you get up and tell, I mean, she just, I mean, she's, it's a stressful time for her.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's got to basket case thinking like, the, every, all his issues have to revolve around the whole world.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's clearly not thinking about her.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's, it's a time like that they're abandoned.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't know if they're going to die.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's like, okay, I could just fuck me.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we don't know how long or we have.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, it's just a case of like, them, they're suffering, bring them together, I guess.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this guy.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's make this island time worth it, Scott.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I knew I should have brought Palo.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know, her writer died.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's been.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Although, yeah, I don't think she and Palo would have fucked.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: It would have been very different though.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's still a dance friend.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now he's too old now.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: So random fact, this costume for Lee, they find some crazy costumes.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: This costume did use in the same issue that Kitty's roller skate costume with like the strap.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have some reviews.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, so they find some old chests of clothes and Lee puts this number on.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: At least, if you want to talk about uh, about Lee's costume here, and is it a snack to a kick?
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's, what is good, a snack to a snack to a good, three claws up and a kick to three claws down.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to snack to that.
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a snack.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: She looks like a warrior princess right now.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm going to say it again, romanticy book.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, this had peace stunning this, she's, she's, she's giving Emma Frost right now.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she has the gap between like that sash and cape.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's giving Emma Frost, but from like, I don't know a temple.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: If Emma Frost was in a temple, that's what she looked like.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not like a Jewish temple, like a Egyptian temple.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think like a job at the heart dressing Princess Leia, a little bit.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a there's some seashell, couture.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's like a some gold bands up the leg and this headpiece is like very
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Ray and Scott puts on this like red pants, no shirt, like weird up to post creature number.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: They look, they both look super sexy.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when Scott sees Lee in her costume, he says, Oh, sorry, Helen, get you one second.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're good.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, blah, blah, blah.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Lee.
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Princess Lee, if this outfit is anything to go by, I wish you could see me, but I'm kind of glad you can't.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt more dressed, skinny dipping from
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that line.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a classic right there.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I feel like that every day.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is just, oh, God.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just love that panel.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I know the feeling.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I must look pretty bizarre myself.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You look lovely.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you holding up?
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fine, considering my near total ignorance of the situation, Scott, what is going on here?
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why does Magneto scare you so?
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you later.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Till then, trust me, please.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: These are my favorite moments with Scott.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know how intentional they are.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I look like a princess.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, yeah, I probably look pretty bizarre, too.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: No.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just get like a run on.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know, right?
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Both are good at royalty.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: So in 150, this is the big story where a magneto like sinks the Russian submarine, which is a big part of his trial later.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magneto releases a message to the world.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's holding everyone hostage, orders everyone to disarm, and Scott and Lea are like, holy shit.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: He sinks the submarine.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: And after this, Lea's like sitting alone and quite despondent and feeling very out of her depth, which frankly I fucking get it.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Remote island, crazy, co-hot-through-loost statues, and a mutant man just committed a bunch of murder.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: The other guy fires lasers from his eyes, like I understand, or like, you know, the demon attack felt pale in comparison.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she has quite a long kind of saluically in her mind.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to give us this speech, Alicia?
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, let's do it.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm human.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm nothing to magneto.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'd kill me without a second thought.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that I personally have not done anything to harm him or any mutant doesn't matter.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and she's been just like a little sheer 90 in Cyclops's sleeping behind her and she says, I envy Scott's ability to sleep.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I could, but as an X-Men, he's probably used to nightmares like this, but world is dancing blindfolded along the edge of the abyss.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The slightest misstep could topple it over.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never felt so frightened or so completely alone.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he told me about the X-Men.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It explains a lot about him and the four speams fire from his eyes.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He loves his teammates very much and cares for me, believes in me, enough to trust me with their secret.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good man, dad would have liked him.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't, I won't let him fight Magneto alone.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this is she's like really in over her head.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm picturing the conversation they had where she's like yeah, so let's let's bond let's talk about each other one time back in high school I dated like the the the the job the quarterback and we were together for like two years and he really broke my heart.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I tell me about your ex and he's like well she got possessed by like a cosmic entity and died on the moon fighting after eating a star
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's like, he's like, I grow up on a bow.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned how to fish.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: My dad taught me how to fish.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, my dad's in space.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Charles Xavier raised me.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then later, we're fast forwarding several issues.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's sitting down with Magneto.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, you know, one time I dated this Wall Street guy and he proposed, but I really wanted to go on a ship.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: And Magneto was like, yeah, I was married like 90 years ago.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: But my wife fled for me and had twins with a cow lady in the mountains.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: God.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's her name?
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It starts with a bee.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm deaf.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: My move.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the best skipper on the coast, a woman who's held her own in any scrap, pulled her weight in any sea, and I'm homo-sap and I'm homo-sapian, a human being.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm as capable of fighting for myself and my world as any ex-man.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: But then the ex-men are there, Wolverine yanks are into the water, right?
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: We all fall.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: He gets held in pieces, well, I mean Magneto just murdered a bunch of people, right?
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But she is as strong as any X man, dad.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Just isn't by a standard.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like I'm so strong.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then yeah, she gets the egg through the water.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then she gets rolled in a magnetic field while the X man fight Magneto.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's soon ends up peacefully.
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magneto ends up running away.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then leaves dawn for a long time.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, she's going through a lot in this issue.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: That realization of like Holy shit, I'm over my in over my head, which every X man love interest comes across at a certain point.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: from Candy Southern to Trish Tilvi to Opel Tanaka to Eduad, right?
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, holy shit.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: What am I doing here has to be the running theme in your brain?
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, we don't see her again until uncanny Xman 168, where she is captaining the Arcadia again.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Scott is back in Art Shark Bay, months of past Apollo is here working on the ship.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, Scott and we have dinner and she ties her shirt under her boobs and wears the shortest little gene shards, uh, the daziest of daisy dukes.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: The narrator says, over leisurely dinner, Scott tells Leigh of his recent adventures with the X-Men.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's impressed and terrified.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's faced great white sharks and killer hurricanes without flinching, but Scott's tail is so far beyond her experience.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't know how to cope with it.
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then he opens up to her about remitting his grandparents.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Scott had brain damage when he was a kid, right?
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: So he's like just remembering his family for the first time.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: She wants to know if Scott's coming back and he comments on like how her hair's grown out and he calls her nice.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So again, she's looking for a connection here.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's like your own nice and she says.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice, nice.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you angryly?
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is it something I said or do?
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you walked into my life Scott.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Things have been crazy ever since.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Lee, I can't lie.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I won't lie to you or make a commitment.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not certain I can keep.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I care too much for you.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The last thing I want to do was hurt you.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll go.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: This sounds a little bit like what I used to say to girls when I was pretending to be straight.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, I want to kiss you, but I'm just not ready for a commitment.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: So like, thank you.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm flattered, but like, it's just not time.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, take one step buster and I'll deck you.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your world terrifies me, Scott.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could never be a part of it.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even I think if that means losing you.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So somewhere along the line, I guess you've got a choice.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The X-Men or me, but until then, we have each other.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for a while, we can be happy.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: And Lee kisses him, the sun sets on the water.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we get that classic like her leg lift up while they're kissing and they for sure fact that night.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is so funny is that I was watching like a random video of like a judge doing a court case where like it was woman wanted to sue her ex boyfriend for taking his mistress on a trip that she paid for and there's just like photo of him in the mistress and her she's hugging him and her leg is kicked up like that and the judge is like no woman ever hugs a man or kisses a man and kicks her leg up like that
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unless it is romantic, you cannot tell me that that is just your friend.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like such a funny, uh, it's show true.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a classic, like, I'm in love.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: I have never kicked my leg up.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever kicked your leg up during a kiss, either of you?
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: No weird move.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a very 1950s.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, oh, somehow.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, it's not real.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's not real.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just as true love though, so maybe we just haven't found them yet.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I'm kidding.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is all timing.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll try it with my husband later.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see how it goes down here, man.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yep, hit church places.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: On Kenny X-Men, 188 is when she's back, so it's been a while.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a few more years.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're back in the Bermuda Triangle.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lee and Paolo have randomly come across Magneto, like floating in the water because he got bit by a fucking great white shark.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And lead them from the water to save him, and she kicks the shark on the nose, and she pulls Magneto aboard.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: So we're not, Lee, this woman, when she's saying, like, I know, I'm like, I'm a top-bron.
• 35:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: She really is.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a Claremont-Dame thing you do.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't think there's a Claremont Day.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna go as far as least level.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's gonna be a bit of a shirk of the nose.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: And probably you'd done broad, pulling a stupid stunt like that.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Suppose you'd missed, that fish would take it off your blame leg.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't yell, Palo, and don't call me broad.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: We don't do new mutants 23, where south of the community triangle, the abortia, the Arcadia is returning to Magneto's weird island.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: She says,
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nearly there.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling?
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magnus is I live.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I wish I did not.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've always avoided traveling anywhere by sea now.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know why.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck up me, Hardy.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're nearly there.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Are you laughing at me?
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just I never imagined the master of magnetism.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of the foremost mutants on this planet, getting seasick.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should have stayed in the hospital, you know.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've barely begun to recover from your injuries.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I appreciate your concern, Ms. Forster, though I have survived far worse.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: How other considering my reputation and the fact that sooner or later someone other than you was bound to recognize me, I prefer to recuperate at home.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about the mess, I wasn't expecting visitors, especially you.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: After your last battle with the X-Men, we all figured you'd love the island for good.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: This had been my intention.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Xavier does not use this as a base anymore, and the X-Men live there for a little while, folks.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, he's back at the mansion in New York.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: The fool here, he and his pupils would be safe.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: His school is far too vulnerable, which is totally correct.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: This work, Ms. Forster, is it yours?
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, afraid so, but please, calmly, I hate formality.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been researching the beings who originally built this city.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy as it sounds, I'm coming to the conclusion that the inhabitants here weren't people, like us, I mean, at all.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's like emphasizing, we're both people.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: So don't kill me, please.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a human.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he goes, I concur.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I wonder if they were even native to our planet, or are very dimensioned.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me show my new choice using his powers, but he ends up crying out in pain that he's wounded still.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: She tries to help, but he shoves her to the side.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: You are good.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Magneto, I warned you, your body's still incapable of handling the stresses imposed on it, whenever you use your power.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: A way girl, I need no help, especially from a human race.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, if it wasn't for this love, for this lowly human buster, you'd be shark meat.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You only your life, but you won't admit that will you.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The master of magnetism is supposed to be above emotions, feeling
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: fear or gratitude or anything might reveal that at heart for all your posturing magneto is still really only human.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Cyclops brings out her like sexy flirty side.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magneto brings out her like fuck you in cell side and I love that's why it's their perfect that that's her true love magneto is her true love.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he brings you to your point of rage.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: We jumped to 24, Magneto Awakens, Lee has put on the gorgeous lion dress from some random chest in the place again.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: He tells her, you look quite lovely tonight.
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every so often I borrow an outfit and imagine myself to be the woman who once wore it ages ago.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: What was she like I wonder?
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Noble, commoner, married, single, virtuous, naughty, happy, sad.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: What kind of place was this in it's heyday with human beings living alongside creatures too horrible looking to describe.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who rules were the people slaves?
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've discovered so much these last these past months yet.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've barely scratched the surface.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your compliment.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was very kind.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: No more than the truth, a latest, Lee.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: What I said earlier, what I did, I did not mean to strike you.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: You've shown me only generosity and in response, I have behaved like a fool forgive me.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And Lee thinks...
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bet that's the first time the master of magnetism apologized to anyone, much less, a lowly human.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: There may be hope for him yet.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to keep going and we're going to talk about this relationship.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: We jumped into Mutants 26, Lisa Waken in the night when Magneto screamed, she runs into his room, his powers are going crazy, metal flying everywhere.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: His own bed is going through the window toward the ocean just as a reflex of his powers.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she jumps out the window, lands on him and wakes him up.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: She jumps onto the bed, wake up and convinces him to use his powers to protect him from the fall, so things are escalating.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: We jump to uncanny X-Men 196.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: She is now at a lunch with Magneto, and they're visiting the X-Men as they discuss the threat of NINROD, who is a crazy sentinel from the future, who's basically the Terminator.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And Lee notices how the others do not trust Magneto at all.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, oh, I got that out of order.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I will fix this.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: So when she jumps onto
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was some dream.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, so she's laying on top of Maggie, you know, in his bed, which is now on the ground outside.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he runs his hands through his white hair and says, it was of a time and place I thought forever buried.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard such desolation in your voice.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did happen?
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: She leans in close to him and he says, death, resurrection, I'd have died tonight, I think, if not for you, twice now, I owe you my life.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: My pleasure.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the narration tells us, the first kiss is tentative, both gripped by a shy nervousness neither will admit to.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: The second is less so.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the third, not at all.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when the last, and when the last Magneto sleeps, lead tastes salt water on his cheeks, and wonder if its salt spray, or tears,
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: crazy.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's a crazy story.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm insane romance novel.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying the two of them together take over the worlds.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: There was this girl in high school and we were all talking about our first kiss once and I had to make it up because I didn't have one yet and this girl I remember this indelibly I will not use her name.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: But she goes, one time, I was at a party in this guy kissed me, and the first time he kissed me, I didn't like it, and the second time he kissed me, I didn't like it.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: But the third time he kissed me, I was kissing him back, and that's what I thought I was going to fall in love with.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: No!
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like that.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: No!
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, she liked it the whole time.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you like Lee with Magneto?
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, we have said the obvious.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, people are guessing there's an age difference.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because I mean, obviously, we know Magneto is like from like the, his origins stem from the Holocaust from like the, um, that era.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, we do have to remember to use the age, um,
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: before this.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I like to just like think and vision that this is like Michael fast-bender Magneto with like a gas yeah with white hair.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean she's like a looks like visually like Taylor Swift or someone like younger.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like a it's nothing like a too much about a huge age of age just orange age of gap.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, it was pretty much like pretty tedious.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what is Claire mind doing with this new mute instruction just going back and forth as this romance?
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it really goes a show.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's not like some, just have Stockholm syndrome.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like someone who's abusive like him was very, at this point, very racist against the humans.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Very much still has his philosophy of being above them.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: But she really shows a lot.
• 43:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: And this is all right before Magneto goes to his trial and then comes the leader of the X-Men.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Lee's a part of like teaching him tolerance, which is really interesting.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, if you remember Mara Fucked with his head when he was a baby before he got re-aged, so there's the lawyer, I can't vote it, but we won't go there today.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, we don't like to prove that she didn't.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was proof at the end that she didn't.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it was his, it was all pure.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess we could say we could thank Lee for
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hulk and him bring them over to the hero so and where is that right now so.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And if you don't like this relationship, let's jump to new mutants 26 because this is amazing.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lee's swimming in a black McKiedie shortly after they fuck and the narrator tells us she's covered two miles hoping physical exertion and exhaustion might ease her apprehension blunt her memories of last night and she's freaking out.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a statue that shows humans bowing before a god and damn it, Magneto thinks he's superior to humans and she should have just let him drown, but then Magneto gets very sweet.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: He makes her a breakfast and there's a rose in a vase and he's wearing a truly hideous version of his costume and he tries really hard to be affectionate because he just got made last night.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: But she wants to be alone and she tries driving away and he yanks her back in a force field.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you know is surprised that she's angry.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: He says you're angry with me.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: That much is obvious.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: But why?
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: After what happened between us?
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What else did you expect?
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you blame yourself for that?
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you blame me?
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Was it so awful?
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And latest?
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like did I come too fast?
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought we'd made each other happy.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was certainly, I certainly was.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And for that, I'm very grateful.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Me too, so long as I thought it was an honest act and honest emotions.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But look at what you just did.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was I given any more of a choice last night?
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: The I would never use my powers to coerce or harm you.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I am not Charles Xavier.
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had that slide myself.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I bet you'd be in there.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a can in mind.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: How can I believe that?
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have given my word.
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your Magneto, the Master of Magnetism, one of the most infamous supervillains of our age, the avowed enemy of humankind.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Buster, I'm human.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're afraid of me.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes!
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: My wife Magda had such a look on her face.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'd saved us both from a marauding patrol of secret police.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: He had all she saw was that I had used my superpowers to do it.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: In that moment I became different.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Our love meant nothing.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was no longer human.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's leaving out that he just saw his child burned to death at this flashback.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a mutant, a thing.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: She ran from the entire, I never saw her again.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Never knew until much later far too late that she had born my children.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: don't please Lee, don't you run from me too?
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I cannot bear to be alone and I am sick at heart of the realization of what I'd become, help me Lee.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: I beg you, I need you and he reaches out and Lee turns away crying.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: This time, it is Magneto who walks away.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: His heart aching as it has not for a lifetime, his spirit shattered as it has never been by the worst defeat.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, I don't know, Alicia, you're the girl here.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever dated a guy like this?
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But here's my thing.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's my thing.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's saying all this because she's scared.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because later, in continuity, anytime anyone talks trash about Magneto, she's like, how dare you?
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't say that about him.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's amazing.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's so kind.
• 46:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: She just scared because she met the love for life and they did it and then she was like, I'm a woman who doesn't like commitment.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what do I do?
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I love Magneto, so she ruined it.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: She made him out to beat.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's my head can in any way.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, but she's also seeing him commit murder, right?
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, of course.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and he just used his powers on her.
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, in that, in that instinct.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, Lee, he didn't.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You guys were fine last night.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay?
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: It is giving a little bit.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's like a hint of like he hit her and then he's like, I'm so sorry.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to change.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Please don't leave me on the map.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm like, you know, no, not that way.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, this is what happened with my wife.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I had just murdered a bunch of people and she looked at me like, I'm a monster.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lee, please don't do that to me too.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I like them together, but no.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hear you, I do, but like circling it back to the dark romance, okay?
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Magneto is like the original shadow daddy.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he is that.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not murdering her.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like yes, he shouldn't have used his force to feel on her like that.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like they could murder people together.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: What bring power brings people together, then murder?
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Look at this beautiful castle.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like dug up from the bottom of the ocean.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: We can wear princess costumes and fuck.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll bring you breakfast.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, in New Year's 29, leases Magneto practicing his powers.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: They talk about their fight.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: They realize they actually have deep feelings for each other.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then Xavier blasts his mind into the room with his crazy eyebrows.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, you know, the beyonders here.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then that's kind of three words, little while we jump to Marvel fanfare thirty-three.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Which is the issue about this island specifically?
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magneto has been off with the X-Men for ages.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Excuse me, getting my breath.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's back on the island and the X-Men are enjoying the low and Lee is in a bikini top and a pink shirt and she is so happy to see Magneto.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's snug.
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've missed you and I you me you sound surprised I am oh a shame to care for a human Oh champion of mutant kind self-styled savior of your people unnerved to care at all in this way for anyone It's been so long related.
• 48:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I never thought to be so blessed a second time
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I understand, we all have shadows, shadows on our souls, losses that at the time seemed too terrible to bear that we thought would scar and taint us forever, but those days are past my love.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have a new life better, noble or responsibilities, as the headmaster of Professor Xavier School for gifted youngsters, let the future for us be full of hope, no shadows, only light.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: a lovely dream, time will tell whether or not it becomes reality.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then they make out right in front of the X-Men.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then this weirdo called the chief examiner attacks and animates all the statues on the island and league it's turned to stone for a minute.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: This guy's an alien, scatter might truly don't worry about it.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: But go look up the chief examiner and quest pro and Mark Greenwald if you want more of this crazy story.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's kind of literally for quite some time until she shows back up in a random issue of cable.
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Reminder, cable is Cyclops's son who it looks like a grandpa, like a hot grandpa.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's Josh Rowland, he's daddy.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: She likes a buff man with white hair.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Alicia is this your section of the green.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, it is.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I did my notes a little bit differently than you Chad.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that's okay.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's not only okay.
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's recommended.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, amazing.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to use your notes and then also like pull out some points for us to talk about.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're back in Shark Bay, Lee is reading her ship for a fishing expedition and she's got on a green hat along as ponytail, a purple shirt.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The tightest tie-wasted blue jeans, gloves and a green over shirt tied at the navel.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's exasperated by Paolo, who never seems to get anything right.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Paolo gets yanked under the water by, how do I say this?
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Senyaka.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Senyaka is a Sri Lankan electric whip accolade.
• 50:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I have an episode on him with Mike Rossi and Derek Nichols out there.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: So you can go learn all of this.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Senyaka and his life is completely drained.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He whithers away like a corpse and disappears.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So first I want to talk about this look because this ponytail is rocking.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: She is rocking this ponytail.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: She has, like, she looks so strong and so beautiful.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really love, like, how mussely she is here.
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also she's like, right at it again, taking no shit.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Palo comes up and he's like, I got you this net and she's like, bitch, this is not a net.
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I told you to get me a net.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is this garbage?
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, whoa, it was cheaper.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: She like throws at him and she's like, go get me another one.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Palo's like grumbling to himself and I'm like, have you been around me for a while?
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you know?
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know that she's not going to take this nonsense and you're just jealous a little bit I think you're showing your jealousy a little bit Palo and I think she might she might be a little bit disappointed when he does not return because he is dead like he seems dead so I was I was confused as to how he comes back in the future but it's comics so you know Palo is killed by Senyaka here and then we also see a different Palo or maybe the same one in the next appearance like something maybe she just
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: from then on everyone that she hires to hide and fish with her is Pala.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: One of the interesting things here, and this is just a quick side component.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Magneto, at this point, has gone on to declare war on humanity.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: He has formed the space station avalan with the accolades.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's declared himself the musiah and declared war on earth.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Senyanka has killed humans in his name.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: and Magdito during the time when he goes to like the funeral of Ilyana Rasputin.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you guys remember that whole thing?
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: He in order to teach like the X-Men like I will hold the accolades accountable.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: He like wads Senyaka up into a ball like you betrayed me accolite and like tosses him aside.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this is Senyaka returning after Magdito killed him.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then cable shows up whose Cyclops is sudden.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: So the two guys she's fucked up like.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's like pretty much her in this issue.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It cables fighting other accolites and we move on from there and we go on to the next one which chat notes that she does in fact narrate which is pretty cool because we had a whole issue from her perspective so it's hours later Lee is in an orange sweater off the shoulder and black tights it's cowering and she's cowering on her ship with a flare gun because
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: crew, right?
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, it's like she is so conflicting in this moment because she's like so huddled and scared, but yet when she faces and Yaka face to face, she has no issues.
• 53:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have a flare gun.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you have these tentacles that are doing things you've destroyed everyone on my ship.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a flare gun and I am coming for you.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: So he has at least a couple of horror movies.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, yeah.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like the art in these panels of just like her, it's it's giving hardcore SNM vibes like she is bound, but she's also like maybe enjoying it a little bit, you know?
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Nyaka gets to her, but Lee hits him with a flare gun.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: She sends a distress call out and the X-Men to the X-Men.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So she sends it out to the X-Men and cable shows up.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Nyaka reveals he came after Lee to get revenge on Magneto.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're running through the swamp and cable is moonged in.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she is so upset because first when cable shows up, she's like, what are you doing here?
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need your help.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need the X-Men.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know you.
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's very anti-cable helping her.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's very much like, I'm here to swoop in and save you.
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they have this like really interesting relationship where she's very much wanting to prove to him that she is not a damsel in distress.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I called the X-Men, but I don't like need saving.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have this myself.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so when it turns out that cable doesn't have the ability
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: To teleport them out of the swamp, they're kind of stuck here and she says, I'm stuck with the wounded transportation, let's help us have ton man in the middle of the floor to ever grades with a mad man stalking us swell.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think my favorite thing is that a number of times in these cable issues, both her and cable describe their really shitty situations as swell.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like well you know and and as much as she very much is like anti cable helping her there's also several moments where she's like smoothing over him and like started like oh no let me let me help you over here or let's sit by the street and I'll just sit perfectly between your legs I know in Ireland we could be lost on together cable
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that also comes in right like so we bring back the idea that she went and kicked a shark in the face She there's there's an altercation between Senyaka and cable and it's like Lee is pushed to the side and you're like, what's gonna happen is is cable gonna make it?
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: How how how are they getting out of this and her response is to take a
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: like a piece of wood and just smack him over the head with it and that comes back again in the future.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: She does this.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're distracted by fighting this actual hero.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Super powered person and I am going to actually save the day by just hitting you over the head with something.
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: that her and cable go off, they go off into the Everglades together.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: She snuggles up into cable, probably trying to fuck, definitely trying to fuck, without knowing he's the grandpa-age son of Cyclops.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's deeply grieving about how Meg Nito has gone insane.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Nioca attacks again, and cable impales him with teleconetically thrown sticks.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: which is amazing.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's like sharpened some sticks.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a video.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: You remember, she's also from the Everglades.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like this is the whole, yeah.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is her territory, which she kind of like a couple of times like cable will make comments about where they are and she's like, no, we're in the Everglades.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's nothing here.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's in one of the next issues where he's like, maybe we'll find some shelter and she's like, there's no shelter here, which as we get to that point, it's like, didn't you just say there's no shelter here and yet you're going into a house that you see, you don't question that at all.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's fine.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't get to fuck at this one very often.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, now because they're tell her separate beds, Chad, separate beds.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But my thing here is that she has, so we start the issue out, right?
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's in this orange sweater, and she has, like, what kind of looks like blue jeans.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when she first takes her shirt off, her top is like a beautiful tan top.
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then as these should go on, her clothes just become black.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what are you doing?
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't change her clothes.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why have we not continued with her bright, sunny beach colors?
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a question.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have an answer for you.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have that for the artist.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't need to answer.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, she's very defensive of her boy Magneto because he could never do no wrong because why as we said true love, that's a true love.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then this is the panel that I'm talking about.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's after after cable snaps the thing and stabs him with his two shards, they're underneath the tree and she's like perfectly sit between his legs like stroking his face.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's going to be okay and she has these like voiceover moments where she says at that moment I realized that we would probably die here together in the middle of nowhere.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this man possessed the same noble qualities I'd once shared with someone I loved.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: She compares him.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it Magnus?
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: This man was too down to earth.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: My father question mark.
• 58:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's daddy.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, no, no, no, no, do you have that issue, my friend?
• 58:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, my father never had this man's self-confidence.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whoever it was, I knew one thing for sure.
• 58:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It hadn't taken long for us to forge a bond of mutual respect and trust and wanting to fuck each other.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I added that one in.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so, okay, that's the issue.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're into our next issue.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll go on.
• 58:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Then Yaka really quickly, uh, at Alicia, have you read, um, Nekrosha?
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so Selena, Selena symbols like a group of like mutants who kill people with the death touch.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: And Senyaka is one of her mutants that like she records to her death team.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, it's, it's a huge interest in character.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, please go ahead.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now we're in the next issue.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're still in the Everglades, and it seems that Lee has somehow shortened her pants to shorts.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, as the issues go on, she's wearing less and less clothing.
• 58:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she has her sexy gym suit with her exposed midriff while cable is in.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: so so much gear.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: He isn't shed a single layer of clothing and they are running from a hurricane and he saves her from a flying tree.
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, you know, they're in the middle of this and then he falls into the quicksand and for me, he falls into the quicksand.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: She knows so much a quick quicksand.
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, stay calm.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: lay on your back.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I got to this part, I was like, oh, finally, quick sand.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember quick sand used to be a thing all the time.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we never knew what we when we would encounter it.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here we are.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're encountering it in real life.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's trying really hard to save him.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: She brings a stick over.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's pulling.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, come on, get me out of here.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, bro, I'm trying you way 10,000 pounds.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she can't do it.
• 59:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So his telekinesis is what gets him out.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: his moment of struggle there is much flirtation between the two of them and you know tensions are rising so you're what did I write?
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lee you're being exposed for falling for any new and man you do business with that's it that's what's happening here there's like oh you're here you're like my dad you're like magneto I don't know but I love you oh yeah okay I copy and paste in my things into the wrong
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they come across this like rickety old cabin in the woods, which is very poor movie vibes, and they go in and there's this old creepy man with an eye patch, and he's like, my name's Desmond before coming right here.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then and then there's sunny call me sunny and that's where I'm like Lee literally moments ago when cable was like There's a hurricane, maybe we'll find shelter.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, there's no shelter in the Evergreen Everglades, sweetie You're never gonna find it and then what is this a house?
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think that this is like, because these are demons, right?
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like I think humans conjure to house in the back
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 1:00:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it has burn wood burn wood that was once a tree no and blossom and chief nest and sing and fires a lot like life wouldn't just say friends I mean the fire which seems extinguished often enough since lumber's neat the ashes, but the more and the fire is covered up the more and it burns
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: What fire sleeps neat year, Ash, and soul, the latest forest, or in what kind of holocaust are you trying to cover up with more and more flames, Nathan Day's spring, a son, a son, when two rage and fires come together, they consume the thing that feeds their fury.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then he changes into, it's despair again, holy shit.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, they away from her, get a job.
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, first, we like every glades, you know, it's like you know all these things about us, you seem to be a demon.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, you have a friend.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your friend just randomly showed up in the Everglades, but you ought to offer us two separate beds.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we'll go upstairs.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll take a little nappy.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: and cable gets tortured with his visions.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, no, my wife Jen Scott, who's named after my parents died and her child Tyler who's horrible has now joined with my evil twin.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: No!
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and, and Strife is here and I'm struggling to survive and what do I do?
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then what are these visions?
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Her father, Cyclops, and Magneto battling it out for her love.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: her daughter.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So her her vision her she's like sleeping in a bed and her dad like wakes her up with the craziest smile and then shoots himself in the head and then you know like kills cyclops in front of all it's yeah and it's seeing the like she's like I have to escape this my father committing suicide so I'm going to run outside and she like bumps into hulky cyclops and then you have magneto show up and like there's this like battle and magneto just blows cyclops to bits and I'm like how how did he do that?
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then, and then cable gets to see like that morphing image like Scott did of the wedding of Jean, like he sees Jen Scott, who morphs into red, like the Jean version that raised him, who morphs into the Jean, who morphs into Rachel, who morphs into mother a scony, and then like morphs into Lee, and then like also morphs into like he turns into strife again.
• 1:03:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it also like, Rachel mother, Scottie sort of also morphs into cable and like he's like am I them am I my own self like I don't know what's going on and then is this where This is the like let me tell you what's real.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have to find what's real.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what are we going to do?
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make out that's what's real.
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess what you guys.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not what did he say his name was the other friend
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: The spare is one, and Blasco was the other.
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Blasco, what do you call himself?
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, uh, Sunny.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sunny, yeah, he's, he's actually, he's actually Blasco.
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, do you know what Blasco is?
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Me?
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do, I indeed do.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so Blasco is like the Lord of Limbo, who like, kidnapped, like human traffic, to Yelgana Rasputin, and turned her into magic.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: These are terrible people.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, and and Velasco's whole thing is like he wants cable because of his connection to Maddie So he's like your Madeline son.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have this whole thing going on with like demon dimension things and I need you to come with me So again Lee is like I was just trying to like live my life and somehow I am consumed and all this mutant BS
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: and I have to be part of this.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have no connection to Madeline Pire.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can I just go back into the Everglades?
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, because where are we actually?
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they both try to escape, but they actually end up in the nexus of all realities, where people, they encounter Sim.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sim and Belasco have some altercations.
• 1:04:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is really like a posturing situation between the two of them who's really in charge.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And cable just kind of lets Sim beat the crap out of Belasco.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Lee has this moment like,
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And ex-man would never, would never let this happen and cables like, I've told you a million times, I am not an ex-man, I am cable, okay?
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, at the end of all of this, I think she's feeling a little bit like, A, how do I still get hooked up with all of these people?
• 1:05:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, okay, yeah, we have to pause for just a second.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: So one of the ways she snaps like cable out of this is she kisses him on the mouth, not knowing that it cyclops is child and then Velasco starts going all through the crazy of like oh magic and limbo and also cable your mom who was like cyclops is like dead wife's clone used to be like the goblin queen here and we found this moment which she just mutters.
• 1:05:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do I keep getting myself in these situations?
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's just not having it.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, this is a freaking love triangle of its own accord that I just can't be bothered with.
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.
• 1:05:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so by the time all of the limbo niscets situated between the two of them, there's like some really creepy moments where like Bolasco like covers up Lee's mouth and it's like bubbly and gross.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like he's melting her flesh almost, getting fully melting her face off.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's just like, this shit is not my problem.
• 1:06:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So by the time Sim beats on Blasco and kind of like throws him out of the picture, as she's just watching all of this, watching cable, watch all of this happen, continuously.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then she says, you know what, cable, I gotta get back to my own life.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got a positive good.
• 1:06:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a moment where she pounds on Sim's back with her fists.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she does it again.
• 1:06:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: He turns her on and just slaps her in the face and goes back.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my, he's like, hold on.
• 1:06:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're distracted.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could I just hit you from behind?
• 1:06:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yet again.
• 1:06:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm actually really fond of him.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think he's really funny.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sam is great.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like he's a good love to hate, you know.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, fully.
• 1:06:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, she's she's pulling her classic move.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to hit you from behind.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: At least, here's what I have to say, at least she always does her best in a fight, right?
• 1:06:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she never just stands there.
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: She always kind of is like, and we'll see that again in the next story where she's like, okay, I'm letting you handle it, but also I would like to be a part of this fight, even if I'm going to get slapped across the face by a demon.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: So the story ends, they're back in the swamp, cable touches her shoulder.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: She goes, everything's back to normal, and it goes, whatever that means.
• 1:07:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, me, what's next, if you had enough of the Everglades, and she's like, cable, please, I mean, this has been, I have got a life to get back to.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I am not interested in fucking you anymore.
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: The demon dimension was enough.
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I can't.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, you did something like my face melting, and you still want to fucking me.
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a problem.
• 1:07:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like being lost when I was lost with Cyclops, that was one thing.
• 1:07:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: This Everglades journey hasn't really been as sexy as I thought it could be.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just I love the like cable, please.
• 1:07:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is my own life.
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Amazing.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Alicia Fuck Mary Kill.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Senya Balasco, despair.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, I still have to be in there.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely kill Blasco.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can't deal with him.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fucks in y'all.
• 1:07:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go married as fair.
• 1:08:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the only correct answer.
• 1:08:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to spare my life forever.
• 1:08:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to, we're going to go to our last, with the last issue of my section, which is, um, X been on them in a number nine.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Palo is back.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now is it real Palo fake Palo?
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.
• 1:08:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he's been missing for a full month after going out on.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say this either.
• 1:08:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's see Bella.
• 1:08:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like, but let's see Mississippi.
• 1:08:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the Arcadia has a new crew and Lee has her sexy sexy orange shirt.
• 1:08:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's looking good.
• 1:08:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's her tiny jeans shorts.
• 1:08:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's rocking those Daisy dukes.
• 1:08:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when Paolo comes back, he's just like in, he's like freaking out and like runs deep into the ship.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Will not come out.
• 1:08:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's deep in there.
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's like, girl, I don't know what's wrong with Paolo, but like he's not well.
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, let me do this.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: go in and be like, hello, you okay?
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's lost it because blood screen.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he can't, he's like, he's coming.
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get me.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like having a full on panic attack in the dark.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so what does she do?
• 1:09:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: She has to call the X men because how does she handle this?
• 1:09:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, this is not.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you come back to me when this bulls Joe Powell?
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a Victorian supernatural vampire after my ship, please help.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, um, could you help?
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need some help.
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we had beast siloquin Wolverine and they come in and you know for a little bit I was sort of like how did you get yourself mixed up in this again woman?
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know like what is going on and she but she calls the X-Men she's here I do still have questions about Paolo's legitimacy because he I watch the skeleton float to the bottom of the ocean I watch it happen in the in the last story.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, now she's changed her outfit.
• 1:09:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's got an orange stripe taint top on again.
• 1:09:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's only covering the boobets.
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she grabs her shotgun.
• 1:09:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's ready to fight.
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's fully here and the X-Men are slowly arriving, right?
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there are wild pigs.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chasing Wolverine as he comes up Wolverine's ready for like do you guys want to take a pause?
• 1:09:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We could have a barbecue.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can make us dinner with these pigs like let's get this going But alas they have to figure out what's going on the end up beast is very convinced that they're in some sort of Bermuda triangle beast seems to know a lot of nautical information and I feel there's a little bit of tension Between him and Lee because like he's saying a lot of things and she's like okay.
• 1:10:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the captain of the ship though at one point He tells her to steer the ship and I'm like beast
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: She finally met a beauty and she didn't want to fuck.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is the greatest captain in the history of captains.
• 1:10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you not learned that information yet?
• 1:10:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is going on with you?
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, they end up in this like alternate, diamond, red, interesting dimension.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have to figure out like what is what is going on?
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are we in the perimeter triangle?
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is broad blood screams here?
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like,
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bloodstream has his ship of undead pirates, and I don't know like there's something about bloodstream and his pirates that just really makes my heart happy.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the way he has all these pirate zombies and they're bringing themselves onto the ship.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: We get this like, we get an epic battle.
• 1:10:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We get a classic pirate battle happening, and then we get away from them.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've started to feel like throughout this issue that Lee is getting like shoved to the side and she's not getting her moments to shine the way that Lee forester can shine and we're in this void and guess who's there are good friend Velasco we know him we've seen him before She's also she's also back in the room you to triangle.
• 1:11:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, there's a big battle, but Lee and Paolo are left on the ship
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where the rest of her crew went.
• 1:11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were fighting the pirates, and then they bailed, unsure.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just Lee and Paolo who are left on the ship as the rest of the mutants go.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're trying to figure out what's going on with Velasco.
• 1:11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Velasco is talking about his big evil plan.
• 1:11:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's flaunting what he's going to do.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He traps Silok in a crystal.
• 1:11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He puts Wolverine and Beast in these cages.
• 1:11:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And all seems lost and he's hardcore doing this, like evil, villain, monologuing.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we just can't
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: kind of keep getting like reference to Lee and Paolo on the ship.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then there's a moment where bloodscreens coming for them and what can they do but hide in a bunch of fish.
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's enough to keep him off their tail.
• 1:12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're just like peaking out through the fish and they're like, he didn't see us.
• 1:12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then...
• 1:12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Many goes or smell us and then it goes back to the mutants and I'm constantly thinking But what about Lee?
• 1:12:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like when is she gonna have her moment and then she starts to feel like you know Dexman they've been gone for too long and I'm worried about them So she uses the scope of her gun to look deep into the dimension to see if she can find them And as soon as that moment happened you have Blasco flaunting this crystal and you know she has this gun and you're just waiting for it You're just waiting for her to save the day.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: She would her gun destroy the crystal
• 1:12:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: and what does she do?
• 1:12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: She doesn't look unblast, it's perfect.
• 1:12:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's perfect, she is perfect, because she's amazing and she saves the day and they underestimate her value because they leave her on the ship, thank God for her.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
• 1:12:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: She saves them in the moral of the story is that the X-Men would be lost without Lee Forster.
• 1:12:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: So Anthony, one day you like meet a cute boy and you like make out at the bar, but then the next day you learn that that boy is actually like your boss's son, but also he's married and like his husband is like your mom's best friend's kid, and then you have like a dinner where everyone's there when you realize it all.
• 1:13:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is Lee and her next appearance.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: How much drama will you tell us about uncutiex been 386-387?
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so just for some context, I mean, this is a Claremont's great return in the books ever since he left him in the early 90s.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is like the revolution period.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not many people know about this era.
• 1:13:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So else to two, this is the first time we get the interaction, kind of interaction, T's of her and Jean Grey.
• 1:13:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So about the Arcadia, so Lee and Paolo, so Ryder die, Paolo, I mean, he's been with her.
• 1:13:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is kind of under seven.
• 1:13:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: She always has a pillow.
• 1:13:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he doesn't have his own marble wick.
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, come on.
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a character.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: No fair.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So their car in a hurricane Sam.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I have no, if that was a real storm back in 2001.
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So don't, I don't know, or 2000, whenever that came out.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the context is that they're in a storm.
• 1:14:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And how the X went find out is Jean Gray actually finds out.
• 1:14:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because she like senses it.
• 1:14:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she senses Lee's distrust call.
• 1:14:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's calling.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's calling for Scotch.
• 1:14:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's calling for the X man that she knows.
• 1:14:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so, I mean, it could be inferred that possibly she, this is probably due to when Gene's mind was linked with Scott's, because I mean, at the time, I mean, this is actually before.
• 1:14:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this was the four, I don't know, I'm sorry, the 12, Ellen Davis is 12, which is another storyline that's not really that well beloved by fans.
• 1:14:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so Scott, I think merging with Hockelips and dying, I think, I haven't read the story last time.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is where Scott Hockelips is dead.
• 1:14:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's the Cyclopsalips story.
• 1:14:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everyone is very dull on very other very morning.
• 1:14:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's just so like down about I mean cable is all Yeah, they're just yeah, so that's all you're pretty much the talking about in this issue.
• 1:14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So by mean So Jean someone who senses and she doesn't know who this woman is it could also be inferred to like how the she had that set and second mind link with Scott like back in dark thanks to Aga their mind link
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're seeing that we said great visual.
• 1:15:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's saying like Jean is like, this is the image of her that comes to my mind It's a huge projection of Lee's face and storm is like leave for a stir I mean, so go to show that they definitely have a great history and beloved and Jean says
• 1:15:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I recognize the name, um, wasn't she someone Scott used to know?
• 1:15:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: What possible connection because she had with me?
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Storm says, when we find her, we shall ask.
• 1:15:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then Storm is thinking, no need to tell Jean that when Cyclops thought she was dead, he and Lee had a re-relationship.
• 1:15:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like Storm.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jean is right there.
• 1:15:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: She could read your mind.
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why she didn't know in Jean Grey.
• 1:15:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, who doesn't with doesn't know anything about borders or boundaries boundary, that's the worst thing for us.
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we go into that to action.
• 1:15:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So of course, cable is there.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we just had that interaction with cable a few years ago in his series and I mean, and
• 1:16:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Storm and Rowe come together because they are the only ones who can really fight this hurricane.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why Jean stayed back.
• 1:16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, gamut stays back too, which is understandable.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a pretty much they're trying to get aid on this hurricane that's going on.
• 1:16:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's probably a massive hurricane.
• 1:16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I've never seen a hurricane this large scale in the Marvel universe.
• 1:16:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it was able to take out, you know, make a level mutant like Storm and others.
• 1:16:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we get to see a Lee come back though, um, she's pilot.
• 1:16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's in this, oh my gosh, she's in this like very flashy gorgeous rain jacket.
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a yellow rain jacket, but she makes a look at her.
• 1:16:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's really manning the wheel of the boat and she's just, uh, and we get to see her in cable reunite.
• 1:16:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: She says, uh, he comes to cable comes to her.
• 1:16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: saying cap, but all of a sudden, we ain't alone here in the wheelhouse and cables like Lee Forster, this is cable.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm projecting my thoughts to you and let you know the X-Men are on the way.
• 1:16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a solid fix on our position.
• 1:17:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we reach soon and it's pretty much everyone's just coming over.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is like pretty much an issue where it's all I pretty much like, um, God, I'll pretty much just, uh, just weather-rerelated, uh,
• 1:17:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: God made tragedies.
• 1:17:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're happening.
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a plane crash going on and Lee is pretty much just I mean she's just at the wheel doing her best like to aid the surviving passengers and get through this hurricane and she's just not giving up.
• 1:17:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: She means she's why I love about hers for persistence.
• 1:17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So storm gets knocked out somehow when she's trying to save some passengers that there's some rescue plane that blown up and just for I think she just she gets hit by falling piece of debris.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: and they have to bring her a board.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so when they bring her a board, the Arcadia, we see for some reason there's a picture of her and Scott, like in a romantic embrace on the boat, and I'm like, girl, what this is like, we're even on the wall of the bed.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, I'm like choose to believe it's either maybe they just have I mean Unless she has like pose of all her Arcadia fishing staff maybe she has like group photos But I mean, this is the equivalent of like having a still of like a photo of you and your acts on still on your Instagram gallery Which actually reminds me I still have one of me in my accent on my gallery
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But no, no, they were on good terms though too.
• 1:18:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't, um, it wasn't, um, there was no bad.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you could definitely see that Scott and her still respect each other and she hides the whole thing to hire a guard.
• 1:18:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so that was just a little bit there.
• 1:18:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just funny.
• 1:18:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I mean, Rogue noticed it and just really much is like, oh my god, look at the history that those two had.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he must have a she must have really seen something special in him.
• 1:18:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: pretty much a hern cable overnight as well too.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have an interaction.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: She says so when they meet me it's pretty funny she said what's the classic line.
• 1:18:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: We really must stop me like this me and and moral danger you rushing to my rescue in the middle of a hurricane we refer to.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: on cable issue.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's cable says, well, it was only once.
• 1:18:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Lisa's, what happened to your I'm not an X-Man stick, because cable at this time, yeah, so he was always much the gritty, like, I'm 90s character that was like, I'm way too big for the X-Men.
• 1:19:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, no.
• 1:19:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is where cable joined the X-Men and he's wearing Cyclops's visor around his neck, it's part of us.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's like honoring his dad.
• 1:19:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a choice, I'll say.
• 1:19:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I like the lot of these revolution costumes with his is a little, it's just not am cable.
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, so we go on, cable says something happened a few months ago to change my mind.
• 1:19:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Lisa's, the subject never came up.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: But now that it has, the cut of your jaw, the way you handle yourself.
• 1:19:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You remind me a lot of him, and we're definitely referring to Scott here, so I mean, you put your tongue in my mouth at one time.
• 1:19:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Remind me of someone.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: That you know the taste.
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know the DNA, so we say that we're family here, and so pretty much I mean the rest is issue I mean they're just pretty much just trying to survive this massive hurricane and so what I say oh So um we then I see that it leaves actually we just show like what a great night Even though she's a human just have powers.
• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean we show what a great
• 1:20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: standing, sailor and what a great genuine person is.
• 1:20:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: She was a hero.
• 1:20:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even with the windows getting shatter, even with them being stuck in this massive hurricane that would kill anyone, I mean, Lee is persistent to save like the, I'm guard they're coming for them.
• 1:20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're probably going to kill in this thing.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So she pretty much just like coordinates and like works with the X-Men to like get the boat moving.
• 1:20:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they, it's pretty cool.
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Me and circuit between storm, rogue, and cable.
• 1:20:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, cables using his telekness,
• 1:20:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: telekinesis, excuse me, to his higher upper power, which I know with him, he's a low pre-low level, because he's using it with his threat with the virus, it's called.
• 1:20:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, organic.
• 1:20:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Next time again, yes, that's the issue, yes.
• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really going to put my X-Men card.
• 1:20:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to revote these things.
• 1:20:44
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• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: God no, it's terrible.
• 1:20:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: But no, no, and then we get to see have storm.
• 1:20:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm using her powers the wind and robe just I mean pushing using her super mismarable super strength powers at this time She actually just got back to move the boat and yeah, I mean pretty much it's just a great issue where we where we get to see it's
• 1:21:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Actually, the soap opera of this is lovely.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's got a picture of her.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: She had Scott on the wall, but now Scott's like previously dead wife and she finds out that the guy she made out within the woods was his child.
• 1:21:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just it's so good.
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to tell me what I'm like?
• 1:21:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, too, though.
• 1:21:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're just about to get the same energy in the next issue, though.
• 1:21:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's really cute, actually.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so this is I'm like hanging X-Men 387, so let me just sort of pull up the dialogue right here.
• 1:21:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is some gorgeous artwork by Salvador Leroc.
• 1:21:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Leroka from Iconica mainstay artists has been an X-Men for years so there's some it's pretty much a maximum security crossover and we're not going to that that's I think it's a good Avengers plotlines very space-oriented but we do get to see like we get to see actually see Jean and Lee together on panel and I mean as we
• 1:21:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: not really resentment for safe, but she's a little hurt by the mention of Lee and possibly felt a little threatened.
• 1:22:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we'll see that as we're another recurring theme with a Scott's other great love down the line in the next issue, but um, so we get to ask you of their ish um, dialogue, have actual dialogue together.
• 1:22:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Lee says, I know this is, uh, she comes up to Jean.
• 1:22:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, she says, I know this is awkward, but Nathan just told me the truth, the news about Scott.
• 1:22:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry for your loss, Miss Gray.
• 1:22:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's a good man.
• 1:22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I always wish him nothing but happiness.
• 1:22:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Jean says, I'm Jean Lee, and thank you.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny, but I still find it hard to truly believe that he's gone.
• 1:22:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: And this is the issue where Jean gets attacked by the broccoli people.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I guess so.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll go to her another type.
• 1:22:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: So let me do this set up for this last appearance really quickly.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: In marble, skull to slayer number one in 1975,
• 1:22:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Marble did kind of a planet of the apes series that was like eight issues.
• 1:22:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a group of American refugees that get stuck on the other side of the bermuda triangle.
• 1:22:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Unlike a foreign land that has a weird mix of like alien civilizations, robots, and dinosaurs.
• 1:23:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: And there's this whole adventure, there's like a location, there's a time travel place, time passes more strictly there.
• 1:23:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when you get stuck there, it's hard to get back.
• 1:23:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: The things had some adventures there.
• 1:23:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: The main guy who, for, uh, fronts that series is again in Jim Scully, uh, who is, uh, called Skull the Slayer.
• 1:23:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when we see, uh, lean next, she's romantically connected to this old character from like 1975.
• 1:23:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was so hot.
• 1:23:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it's really fun.
• 1:23:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to tell us about X-Men?
• 1:23:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Volume 3, 16 through 19.
• 1:23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so this is, I'm sure, as you guys know, this is the, um, I'm sorry, like I look at his name again to pronounce him, but I want on this friend.
• 1:23:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is the Victor on Gishler, X-Men 2011 series.
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Baroness, Baroness, Baroness is the series where Jubilee gets turned into a vampire.
• 1:23:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's quite crazy, uh, set of issues, but I mean, this is actually has some really solid stories.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll say this one was a, was a joy to read, I'll say.
• 1:23:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it starts with a billionaire named, um, George Ostanus,
• 1:23:58
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  [SPEAKER_03]: on the greatest captain, I mean, on the she sees Lisa and Florida, yes, exactly.
• 1:24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she's piling the ship.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so they grew the dimensional roof.
• 1:24:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's had some practice now after blood scream.
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know, right?
• 1:24:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So she has a thing or two about that crap going.
• 1:24:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they've actually reached into this land.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're able to go through and I mean, they get trapped in here.
• 1:24:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And with this land, I mean, time unfolds a little differently in this dimension.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, quite
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: before the stress signals actually sent by lead.
• 1:24:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she actually dressed specifically to her exes, Cyclops and Magneto.
• 1:25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it does reach their anti-recipience on her and as luck would have, that both of her ex-boyfriends were actually members of the ex-method this time.
• 1:25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also, I mean, just a little more context, I believe was the utopia here, or it could be the utopia or San Francisco here.
• 1:25:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: At the same time, where many returns and actually becomes, this is like where he becomes a full-fledged, a good guy, a full-fledged member of the X-Men that's been pretty much on going since then.
• 1:25:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we actually get a few, I mean, some dialogue actually between Scott and Magneto about that.
• 1:25:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Magneto kind, like the sky doesn't really want to talk about his history with Lee, Scott says, you've been on characters, you've been on characters to please silence so far,
• 1:25:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Usually, you're pointing out what everyone is doing wrong.
• 1:25:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: You knew Lee too, no comment.
• 1:25:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Maggie, or simply says, that's ancient history.
• 1:25:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a different person, mostly.
• 1:25:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's just a lot of like, like, live like action, a lot of like different, I don't know, we don't have to go into like all like the, there's like some alien over there.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And there's like some telepathic aliens and they're involved in like civil war and ligots, yeah, I'm in take shit.
• 1:26:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: She gets lines like,
• 1:26:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Damn, it's scully.
• 1:26:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: I just had a piece behind with these guys when you came blundering and lucky for you.
• 1:26:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm here to save you from your own testosterone.
• 1:26:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, we've done, I mean, this is like, we don't actually see her till like X-Men 17, but there's this, some battle going out with the X-Men so I'm not going into that with those tribes, but we had gorgeous splash panel of Lee making her great return.
• 1:26:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the downside is that she's in the shine of the Shea but Devil and Jungle Queen cosplay.
• 1:26:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and she's pretty much just a new ghost
• 1:26:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, fucking Jim Skully too, so I mean, good for her, but I mean, also, I'm like, girl, what was the hardest thinking?
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, what, of all the costumes to give her, you have to give her a shot of the she devil.
• 1:26:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I mean, I'm not, I've no issues with the, being revealing.
• 1:26:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, girl, show it off.
• 1:26:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, come on, I need some originality.
• 1:26:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, but the storyline is, oh my gosh, but this is just my, I'm one of my favorites, because I mean, it has all the woman I love, besides Lee.
• 1:27:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the love of my life, I'm a grace frost.
• 1:27:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sue Storm, who actually I loved, like since they started the Marble, since I first got into Marble with comics, so we actually see a great team up with them and I mean we'd see some category remarks from Sue and Storm, which is I mean we love it.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's very much real house-wise with those too.
• 1:27:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's another issue we can go into.
• 1:27:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: But so we see that Emma and Scott and Sue they actually got captured and locked up in a dungeon by Scorpius, that's the bad guys.
• 1:27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we actually get to see a really great team up on between Lee and Megan Gwen, the beloved Welsh Pixie.
• 1:27:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, who was a pretty much the kiddy pride of the year.
• 1:27:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right after school, he's like, let's cut down their door and she's like, if we can just take the testosterone down a notch,
• 1:27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: like it's not surreal.
• 1:27:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is not, no, she's like, yeah, your man problems are going to solve this.
• 1:27:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need a woman's touch.
• 1:27:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, her and Pixie really are just a fun duo.
• 1:27:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or like that, they team up and they, well, so we show that Lee is really proved that she's become more like top after, like all those years fighting.
• 1:28:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she's become like more aerobic, I'm sorry.
• 1:28:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Aerobatic and a lot more competitive are combat, I'm sorry.
• 1:28:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's like fighting aliens with a spear and like checking the back she has much more bare fine skills.
• 1:28:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, she knows her way with a good spear.
• 1:28:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, and so I mean, we see the actually get to see her in pixie, help the Xman escape and so the other way around they came to rescue her, but it's kind of funny of comedy of airs and we didn't see Scott and Lee reunite in panel after almost 20 years on page and gets else to see some funny slat her and barks from a frost.
• 1:28:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Scott says, Lee is that you, I mean, he's like tied up.
• 1:28:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, of course he has his eye.
• 1:28:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: He can't see on because they have his eyes tied up, everything, and was like, why guess?
• 1:28:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think is your ex-girlfriend who we came to rescue.
• 1:28:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: She and Megan seemed to have rescued us.
• 1:28:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: What an utterly whimsical delight.
• 1:28:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Lee says, well, here's a huge bunch of armored whimsy coming at us right now, lady.
• 1:29:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So somebody better think of something.
• 1:29:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean like I said it's just a great team map.
• 1:29:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean they freeze to storm and she's most obviously most powerful She kicks a lot of the ass.
• 1:29:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we have a just great like all these blonde bombshell ladies team me up and we love all the gays love to see it And Dr. Dooms here, too.
• 1:29:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is what he's part of the
• 1:29:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, it's actually, I mean, besides the context, besides the lead context, we get to have like a lot of great interaction between Dr. Doom and Magneto.
• 1:29:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously they're like obviously we're then like known as the X-Men in the fantastic fours like a great Nemesis and then turn allies and so.
• 1:29:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we get to see all the characters like team up in great, great ways.
• 1:29:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and so I mean, we do, I mean, get to see, I mean, this, I didn't like what they're writing, um, leaves like to her like her premature scanly clad appearance, the shot of the sheet level, jungle queen look is kind of get some various remarks.
• 1:29:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the thing gets like adoration, and then there's a caddy one line or I
• 1:29:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: hated at first from Emma Frost.
• 1:30:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean she's saying like, oh, she doesn't kind of just body-shames her.
• 1:30:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like this is I mean Emma is like someone who isn't as someone who uses her sexuality Where's revealing clothing as like a weapon?
• 1:30:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like to seduce other men against and so I feel like she would be see that as like something like that's feministic I mean appreciate another woman, but then I could thought about I was like Emma is jealous
• 1:30:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so let's, let's, let's flash forward to the final scene here.
• 1:30:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: They've saved the day and score out the player decides he has to stay behind and like help the planet Men and at least like what and he goes I have to this planet needs my help.
• 1:30:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, I still have my belt now He has a belt like an alien belt that gives him super strength.
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's what that's, that's this thing I still have my belt so I'll need someone else to wield the orb, which is a powerful artifact
• 1:30:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: There is one person I could, I think could handle it, but I could never ask, and she says, you don't really think I'd leave you here to fend for yourself, do you?
• 1:30:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: We all know I'm the brains of this outfit and Scott goes, Scott goes, are you surely?
• 1:31:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: We came here to rescue you and Emma's like digging her nails into Scott's shoulder, and she's like, I think the lady has made a decision, darling.
• 1:31:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: and still goes honestly I love you for it, but you'd better be sure.
• 1:31:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she stays behind in the community triangle to like live her a little jungle fantasy with school to slay.
• 1:31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's always trying to be like I have my own life to get back to.
• 1:31:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a happy ending for her right now.
• 1:31:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: When I wrote Lee in a story, I don't think I'll ever get to write this story.
• 1:31:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's a major character in a series I'd wrote called Mutant Liberation Front, which like me and like two people I've shared it with red.
• 1:31:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: but they go back to the Brimuda Triangle and Skull has died and she inherits his power belt.
• 1:31:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: So she gets like a major upgrade and becomes this like fucking warrior woman who's part of the team.
• 1:31:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love her.
• 1:31:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think she's great.
• 1:31:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to give you the 10 second recap of Lee Forster.
• 1:31:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: We have Cyclops, Dad Suicide, Despair, Burmuda Triangle, Magneto, Despair, Blasco, Senyaka, Despair, Blasco, Bloodstream, Burmuda Triangle, Hurricane, Burmuda Triangle,
• 1:32:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: I left like cable and magnet out a few times.
• 1:32:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: This woman is all over the X-Men world and has met so many people, but also has not that had that many appearances.
• 1:32:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's fabulous and there's like a ton of like leading lady potential with her.
• 1:32:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then how are you feeling as we've like summarized her whole history and kind of detail from her perspective?
• 1:32:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:32:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, well, from your parent, like, where you're listening it, I mean, it definitely people can say like, oh, she's like only known to be like the love and trust or like, I mean, she's like, based upon like the, um, the men that she's with.
• 1:32:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but I mean, when you really read these stories, I mean, you can see more in depth.
• 1:32:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can see that elidus is a character that has so much depth and warmth.
• 1:32:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she actually has her own agency and trajectory going on and it's just it's very much like very lovingly in craft and carried on like just from that first clear amount of appearance and for two panels and then from all the writers outward I mean she wasn't defined by the end of these men she let them like be the supporting character I mean she pretty much like took a hold and showed that
• 1:33:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: She pretty much is someone with her own personality, one with her own her own character arc and her own interest.
• 1:33:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it is a damn shame that we didn't get her during the marauders.
• 1:33:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, she should have been in the marauders.
• 1:33:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: So my god.
• 1:33:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she does.
• 1:33:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jerry, what happened?
• 1:33:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fine, all right.
• 1:33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's potential for us to write, though, for a few seconds.
• 1:33:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
• 1:33:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even.
• 1:33:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had your feeling.
• 1:33:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I really like her as a character.
• 1:33:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that it's cool to see how she was when she first met Scott in the beginning of her, you know, continuity.
• 1:33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was still strong woman.
• 1:33:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she still like stood her own ground in new who she was.
• 1:33:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But every experience that she's had with the X-Men, she's learned something from.
• 1:33:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like,
• 1:33:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: taking mental notes about who they are and how she can use that to her advantage in the future and she's also been like, well, if I have to fight a demon, if I have to travel to the Bermuda Triangle, if I have to survive another hurricane, like I'm going to use all of this bad tools to my tool belt for the future.
• 1:34:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, seeing her in this ending story and like where she'd become to the point where she's like, yeah, I can stay in this crazy place and be in charge of everything here, run shit here, and not be afraid of that.
• 1:34:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even like her instances with Magneto and she's like, yeah, I'm a human, but I'm the most kickass human you're ever going to meet.
• 1:34:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just think that she's so, she has such a power to her and a self-confidence to her that I really admire as she's constantly intertwined with the stories of these mutants in there like outlandish battles and things that they have to face that are so outside the norms of like what a human would have to face and she's never faced by it.
• 1:34:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's never like, I'm a human.
• 1:34:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Every one of her appearances is really fun.
• 1:34:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: The biggest travesty for this character is I know the cast was already huge, but when my idea moved back to the X-Men and took over like the new mutants and the X-Men, Lee should have been at his side, there should have been a long romance between these two.
• 1:35:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: The moments we do get with her are incredible.
• 1:35:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: She stands on her own.
• 1:35:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love her sexuality, I love her vulnerability, and I love that she's tough as fucking nails.
• 1:35:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I love that she names every man on her ship, Paolo.
• 1:35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're a little palo.
• 1:35:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's new cannon.
• 1:35:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'd love to hear any final thoughts.
• 1:35:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll have to be brief here because I were over time I got my kids waiting, but so I'm sorry if I thought rushed at the end at all, but let's share any final thoughts.
• 1:35:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then where can people find you both online?
• 1:35:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: And is there any that you want to plug?
• 1:35:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can follow Grimout and Lane, Grimout, and Undersport Lane on Instagram.
• 1:35:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: The next Patreon episode coming out immediately after this is all about the mutants from Alpha Flight, Goblin, and Pathway.
• 1:35:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are two girls of color who have a very complicated story.
• 1:35:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: My dear friends, Haram Scaram and Chapman Blake will be joining me for that.
• 1:35:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the number on the main show watched for the trial of Jamie Maddrax, which is going to be delightful.
• 1:35:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so excited to share it with you all.
• 1:35:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: So let's go Anthony and then Alicia.
• 1:35:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, indeed.
• 1:35:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like if I'm on my Instagram at A-Brotacurc.
• 1:35:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mostly just post memes.
• 1:36:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, pictures of my corgi.
• 1:36:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And occasionally the best thirst traps.
• 1:36:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm feeling my oaths after a workout.
• 1:36:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, fans of all of you think both of you for your thrash traps, that is not something I do.
• 1:36:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's all love, self-love, and confidence, so I mean, so I do need to get back into my comic book roots.
• 1:36:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I've been, get do more cosplaying.
• 1:36:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, which, I mean, I kind of just put that off because I've been on Hades with my time constraints.
• 1:36:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: By the time we probably hear this recording, I'll be officially a master's graduate degree holder and therefore we'll be free to agent have free time finally.
• 1:36:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also two, I honor of Lee Forest or my beloved love for Miss Lee.
• 1:36:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a Lee Forest or Spotify playlist posted under my name, under my Instagram and Instagram.
• 1:36:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: This of course has Ania's or ornacle flow as they're opening track because I mean that is just the quescentually forester and obviously because it's me there's a ton of Taylor Swift and so I'm just that relentless that way So if you're really vibing with Lee and I'm really loving her after this recording I'd love and also if you love our gay Probably in love your pop divas obviously
• 1:37:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Please give that a listen and just hopefully I'll be a flamecon this year in New York and maybe I mean, I'll be the first person in history for all I know to cosplay as Miss Lee Forrester.
• 1:37:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, do like a I mean, maybe not really drag with me like do that aqua marine princess look from the onion next mana
• 1:37:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the very real trial goal issue.
• 1:37:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I have been like looking up like a pieces and such of like how to make it, but I will say it might be a work in progress.
• 1:37:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe someone will cosplay that Cyclops octopus look.
• 1:37:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: You guys can take photos.
• 1:37:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so I just want to say thank you again for having me.
• 1:37:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love doing these journeys.
• 1:37:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love getting to know.
• 1:37:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: deep, deep X-Men history and Lee is freaking a badass and I'm so glad to have spent this time with both of you talking about her.
• 1:37:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to follow my cosplay journey or see my dancing and all those things that I do in my regular life or hear about my romanticy reading,
• 1:38:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at Wilder Moves.
• 1:38:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to hear me talk about comics, you can find me at the X-Wife podcast.
• 1:38:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's T-H-E-X-W-I-F-E as an X-Men, not former wife.
• 1:38:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: When this comes out, we will be in the middle of a six week break that we're taking on the podcast.
• 1:38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we got...
• 1:38:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: of episodes that you can listen to and then we'll be back in mid June.
• 1:38:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm I'm loving all of these and I'm so thankful to be here and I'm I just had a great time.
• 1:38:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I had a blast of the bolts and I huge I was up for a long day.
• 1:38:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's super grateful.
• 1:38:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you both for spending your evening with me.
• 1:38:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Alright everybody, thank you so much for listening and we'll see you back here next time on the Grimalkin Lane.
• 1:38:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Patreon.
• 1:38:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: And now stay tuned for some thoughts on fascism, as a special guest tonight talked about a red skull story, and it's modern applications.
• 1:38:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Ryan Hard Hadrick born in 1904 was one of the most feared and powerful figures in Nazi Germany, often referred to as the Butcher of Prague.
• 1:39:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you've probably never heard of him, but he was a pretty big name at the time.
• 1:39:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Even Hitler called him the man with the iron heart.
• 1:39:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: He rose quickly through the ranks of the SS becoming head of the Reich security main office, where he oversaw the Gestapo, the Crepo, and the SD.
• 1:39:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hedrick played a central role in organizing the Holocaust, sharing the 1942 Wancy Conference, which coordinated the final solution for the extermination of Europe's Jews.
• 1:39:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: appointed Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia in 1941, he brutally suppressed resistance in occupied Czechoslovakia, implementing mass arrests, executions, and forced labor while also attempting to germanize the territory.
• 1:39:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: His combination of administrative efficiency and cruelty made him a key architect of Nazi terror.
• 1:39:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now let's jump forward a little bit to something called Operation Anthropoid, which was a daring British-backed mission carried out by the Czechoslovak government in exile to eliminate hatred.
• 1:40:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Two specially trained agents, Joseph Gobchik and Jan Kubis were parachuted into Czechoslovakia after occupation by Germany on December 1941.
• 1:40:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And on May 27, 1942, nearly six months later,
• 1:40:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Gopchik attempted to fire a stand submachine gun at close range, but it jammed.
• 1:40:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: As Hadric stood to return fire, Kubis hurled a modified anti-tank grenade, which exploded near the vehicle, shattering the car, and wounding Hadric with shrapnel.
• 1:40:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: Initially, Hadric seemed likely to survive, but later succumbed to blood poisoning from his injuries on June 4th, 1942.
• 1:40:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: He died at around the age of 38.
• 1:40:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: The Nazi response to Hadric's assassination was brutal and indiscriminate.
• 1:40:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: In reprisal, German forces executed thousands of checks, and rounded up suspected collaborators.
• 1:40:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: The most infamous act of retaliation was the complete destruction of the village of Ladice,
• 1:41:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: All 173 men in the village were shot, women were deported to concentration camps, and most of the children there were either killed or sent for what they called Germanization.
• 1:41:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: A similar fate befell the village of Mirazaki.
• 1:41:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: The Gestapo hunted down the assassins, who had been who had taken refuge in the crypt of Prague's St. Cyril and Methodius Church.
• 1:41:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And after a prolonged gun battle in June 1942, Gopsik, Kuba's and their comrades died, either in fighting or by suicide to avoid capture when they were overwhelmed.
• 1:41:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Operation Anthropoid had far reaching consequences.
• 1:41:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: In the short term, the reprisals were devastating for checks civilians, sewing fear and suffering.
• 1:41:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: However, the assassination dealt a significant psychological and political bloat the Nazi regime.
• 1:41:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hadric was the highest ranking German official killed by resistance officers during the war.
• 1:41:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Initially, internationally, it enhanced the reputation of the Czechoslovak government in exile and undermined German efforts to portray Czechoslovakia as a compliant protectorate.
• 1:41:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: The destruction of Le Dice shocked global opinion and became a rallying symbol of Nazi barbarity.
• 1:42:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: In the long run, Operation Anthropoid demonstrated that targeted resistance against even the most powerful Nazi leaders was possible leaving a legacy of sacrifice and defiance in the face of tyranny.
• 1:42:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: But oh my word, those consequences.
• 1:42:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now we're going to jump to Amazing Spider-Man, number 366 and 367.
• 1:42:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: The stories are called Skullwork and then Skull Duggery.
• 1:42:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Spider-Man's parents are back from the dead, except they're robots.
• 1:42:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a whole thing that takes like 40 years to sort out.
• 1:42:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't worry about it.
• 1:42:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he learns that the Red Skull was the one who had killed them years before.
• 1:42:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Except it wasn't really the Red Skull.
• 1:42:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was an imposter.
• 1:42:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've talked about this in previous episodes Anyway, the real Red Skull is currently believed dead because he faked his death But he's actually dressed in a green suit and hiding out in a Shuley and the Rocky Mountains with Viper And he wants his men and the task master to kill Spider-Man for him And so task master's three best students three real odd little Marvel guys named Death Shield Jaggedbow and Blood Spider go after Spider-Man and
• 1:43:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: They end up defeated, I'm way over summarizing, and the Red Skull is displeased.
• 1:43:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: He yells at Taskmaster, disappointing the Enstangerous Taskmaster, I'll expect you to make up for this info, but the Red Skull already has plans for America Day in place.
• 1:43:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: If all goes well, a great deal of violence should result, and if Spider-Man is around something violent might just happen to him.
• 1:43:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: So later some ultimatum agents, if you guys remember ultimatum is the terrorist group, it's an acronym that stands for the underground liberated, totally integrated, mobile army to unite mankind.
• 1:43:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Real, real, real, real, real fact.
• 1:43:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: They attack a bunch of civilians, but spider-man and solo, they are there, solo the James-born mercenary.
• 1:43:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: The agents end up defeated and the red skull basically is like, oh well, I have other things to do, and that's the end of this story.
• 1:43:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a weird appearance for this guy, but we wanted to talk about resistance movements.
• 1:43:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: And here to join me is my lovely, lovely, wonderful friend, Carrie Harris.
• 1:43:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Carrie, are you a red skull fan?
• 1:44:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I never got into red skull.
• 1:44:03
  [SPEAKER_08]: Are they listening to your voice?
• 1:44:05
  [SPEAKER_08]: I really need to do it.
• 1:44:07
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, I may have changed.
• 1:44:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I like giving him very haunts and fronds energy.
• 1:44:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 1:44:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: But before I ask your opinions on the story, the most important question I'll ask you today is a Fuck Mary Kill death shield jagged bow and blood spider is really true, you know?
• 1:44:25
  [SPEAKER_08]: Do I can't just tell them all?
• 1:44:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can kill them all, it's okay.
• 1:44:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's jump into the world of Spider-Man.
• 1:44:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: How was it looking at this story for you?
• 1:44:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a weird one.
• 1:44:38
  [SPEAKER_08]: It is.
• 1:44:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and it's a piece of Spider-Man history that I have missed.
• 1:44:44
  [SPEAKER_08]: And I actually, I wrote Spider-Man for a short period of time.
• 1:44:47
  [SPEAKER_08]: So it was kind of fun to dig into this and be like, oh, yeah, I remember hearing about the parents coming back, but I'd never actually read the episodes or read the issue.
• 1:44:58
  [SPEAKER_08]: So this was a training.
• 1:44:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a whole thing, just a few years ago, Nick Spencer cleaned this mess up.
• 1:45:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a backstory.
• 1:45:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: They were spies.
• 1:45:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: They like met Wolverine.
• 1:45:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a whole bunch of crazy.
• 1:45:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: We forget Spider-Man's an orphan sometimes, but there's a long running plot where his parents are back from the dead, but it turns out there are robots.
• 1:45:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was a whole thing with like, Tamillion and it's kind of kind of kindred.
• 1:45:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like the devils involved.
• 1:45:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a whole story.
• 1:45:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't worry about it.
• 1:45:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's nuts.
• 1:45:23
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, but I honestly, I might keep reading because now I'm invested.
• 1:45:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: There are so many spiderven stories.
• 1:45:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Tell people a little about your work with Spider-Man.
• 1:45:33
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I actually wrote a story called The Shadow of Engers, which is the second book in this series, although they each stand alone.
• 1:45:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: And so my Avengers team was Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Dr.
• 1:45:48
  [SPEAKER_08]: Strange, Luke Cage, and Black Panther.
• 1:45:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: I actually put a lot of Spider-Man on the page because I like him, so I added Venom
• 1:45:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: Ms. Marvel and gave him serious older brother vibes, which I really, really enjoyed doing.
• 1:46:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was a fun book.
• 1:46:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's still on my shelf.
• 1:46:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've talked about it on the show.
• 1:46:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're one of my oldest friends through Jamalcon Lane.
• 1:46:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've known each other quite some time now, and you've been on.
• 1:46:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: In fact, we just publicly released, uh, as we're recording this, the Stevie Hunter episode we did together, which was always fun.
• 1:46:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: What are your thoughts on the Roaks Gallery for Spider-Man presented here?
• 1:46:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've got the task master and his weird little flunkies, and then we've got the red skull, you know, as behind the scenes
• 1:46:28
  [SPEAKER_08]: I love the combination of characters, so the one that really gets me though is putting Spider-Man with solo.
• 1:46:35
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like it's such an odd combination, but then putting them together and having them, right?
• 1:46:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't even know if I want to use the word team up.
• 1:46:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: Work together, you know, even temporarily.
• 1:46:47
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's actually a lot interesting combo.
• 1:46:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like how are the duck and the punisher working together?
• 1:46:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Or something like that?
• 1:46:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I want to see that.
• 1:46:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I was an odd character.
• 1:46:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Very, again, if you've seen the born identity movies, this guy's literal last name is born.
• 1:47:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's an interesting character.
• 1:47:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Very white soldier vibes for sure.
• 1:47:07
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:08
  [SPEAKER_08]: And well, then he's definitely, you know, especially when you think about Spider-Man's morality.
• 1:47:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: everything that he stands for.
• 1:47:17
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's it's like, I don't know, it's a dark twin or something.
• 1:47:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: Very much a polar opposite in a lot of ways.
• 1:47:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, this is an era for the red school.
• 1:47:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's living in a cloned body of Captain America himself and he has like launched himself into a global level of
• 1:47:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: he's basically fueling, you know, 2,000 different terrorist organizations around the planet.
• 1:47:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: So we've got these weird ultimatum guys and white masks and berets.
• 1:47:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've got his like task master soldiers and he's just kind of pulling a lot of strings.
• 1:47:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is just one plot in a long run for this guy.
• 1:47:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Ultimately, not an impactful red skull story, but it's a fun little snippet into Spider-Man's world.
• 1:47:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: He also, I don't know if you agree with this, but I feel like he has James Bond villain vibes, especially with the suit, you know, you kind of expect him to start stroking a hairless cat.
• 1:48:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's the long skinny cigarette more than anything.
• 1:48:09
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, I opened with thoughts of resistance with this kind of real-world example of the assassination of the targeted assassination of the Ryde Hardhader and who fucked that guy, and the people who fought him were war heroes.
• 1:48:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're remembered as war heroes, but then the act of fighting resulted in the deaths of so many people as a result, which is a way to send a clear message that
• 1:48:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm assuming this is not an anecdote, you knew before because it's not one I had known before doing the research specific for this episode.
• 1:48:45
  [SPEAKER_08]: You know, it made me think of, um, you know, I'm pretty deep into nerd social media and that sort of thing.
• 1:48:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: And so I got a lot of things talking about, um, you know, if you want to be part of the resistance, but you're not a person who goes to protests, what can you do?
• 1:49:01
  [SPEAKER_08]: It essentially broke them out into DMD classes.
• 1:49:05
  [SPEAKER_08]: and said, you know, be a barred, you know, help keep people's spirits up and share songs and write things.
• 1:49:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can be a, um, be a cleric, help people stay healthy when they're doing it, so on and so forth.
• 1:49:18
  [SPEAKER_08]: And so the whole idea that resistance, resistance can come in many forms and a lot of them we tend to discount.
• 1:49:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: be existence of life in 2025 in America, you and I are queer writers and parents of queer children.
• 1:49:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: How are you doing?
• 1:49:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, we're holding on.
• 1:49:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: But this is a timeline I'd rather not live in.
• 1:49:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: I kind of was hoping it would stay in my book.
• 1:49:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I've been watching and reading the Man in the High Castle, which is like an alternate world where the Nazis won.
• 1:49:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just, you know, we keep saying we got the timeline wrong.
• 1:49:57
  [SPEAKER_08]: Make our well-fiction again.
• 1:50:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Karin, I just met in person for the first time at Flametong, where we both had our oldest, well, you have more than one child.
• 1:50:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: I have more than one child.
• 1:50:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: We both had our queer children there with us at the lovely, lovely, the interface for a minute.
• 1:50:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, being in this space with all these queer people feels like home every time, but it hits a little differently these days where the safe space feels a little more hard thought.
• 1:50:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a lot.
• 1:50:25
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it does.
• 1:50:26
  [SPEAKER_08]: And the fact that those six spaces still exist is something that we can't take for granted.
• 1:50:31
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not sure I ever did, but this year it definitely hit me in the fields in a different way.
• 1:50:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then, well, I could delete this out if you want, but is it okay to talk about your cake going to college?
• 1:50:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:50:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:50:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: And your child just left for college leaving you with an empty nest.
• 1:50:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm sure the, the mom worries are about the surface.
• 1:50:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:50:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:50:54
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty.
• 1:50:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: And I mean, I think the mom worries would be rampant regardless.
• 1:50:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: But in this particular moment in time, they feel a little bit bigger.
• 1:51:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sun on our kids out and helping them shark their lives, you know, it's crazy.
• 1:51:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: My, my oldest turned 17 this fall and I'm starting to be like, Oh, what does college going to be like, you know, is their college?
• 1:51:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Is that is that a thing?
• 1:51:18
  [SPEAKER_08]: Sure.
• 1:51:18
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and it's also, you know, like, I think going back to that topic of resistance, the one thing that feels pretty good is being a parent of kids in this moment, realizing that they don't take
• 1:51:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: We are lucky to have our queer kids.
• 1:51:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're lucky to have kids, but there's something special about being the parent of a queer kid, too.
• 1:51:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know?
• 1:51:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:51:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: I think like, you know, just knowing what the topic was in thinking about it as I was reading it, the whole concept of spider man, I'm not sure if you've ever read this or not, but there were some interviews I should have brought.
• 1:51:57
  [SPEAKER_08]: I should have brought citations, but there were some interviews talking about how spider
• 1:52:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: Because he sacrifices as opposed to the characters who, you know, somebody like Superman who is super strong.
• 1:52:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't give anything up and just kind of does the, you know, there was a period of Superman where it was, this is the way things should be he was essentially the the Superman from a super race and that gets a little shaky.
• 1:52:28
  [SPEAKER_08]: And so the idea that Spider-Man gives things up but still doesn't inflict his beliefs on everybody else.
• 1:52:36
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's really, really profound.
• 1:52:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's really done on me to how a reading these stories, how much World War II and fascism and the rise against fascism has shaped all of pop culture ever since.
• 1:52:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like the baseline for evil for the X-Men for Spider-Man for all characters has always been fascism.
• 1:52:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: whether it's in the form of evil billionaires who put people in prison and profit off of slave labor or people who are tossing mutants into concentration camps in the future, you know, which is what makes Magneto a hero that we, you know, really stick our our beliefs toward because it's easy to do so.
• 1:53:08
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, to heck you, you just get to the point where you start doing the Oh gosh, Magneto was right.
• 1:53:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Question mark.
• 1:53:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we've always been there, but well, my dear friend, it's wonderful to see you every time.
• 1:53:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love hanging out.
• 1:53:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's do it again on the show sometime soon, but also, you know, just every, you're just the lovely.
• 1:53:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so happy to hang out with you today.
• 1:53:29
  [SPEAKER_08]: Always the same.
• 1:53:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
• 1:53:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I'll be the, I'll be the death shield to your jagged bow anytime, Carrey Harris.
• 1:53:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't we just kill them all.
• 1:53:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right, everybody's stay tuned.
• 1:53:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll see you back here next time with our next Vignette.
• 1:53:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I carry out a lovely day.
• 1:53:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll hang soon.
• 1:53:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Bye, everybody.