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Mac & Bone Show - Chuck Oliver Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: He is Chuck Oliver. He is the host of the
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  Speaker 1: aptly named Chuck Oliver Show. 71 radio stations in nine states.
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  Speaker 1: It's college football talk, and it's a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: southern college football talk. And Chuck Oliver joins us here
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  Speaker 1: to talk college football. Hey, Chuck, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy to talk college football with y'all. I
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  Speaker 2: got a note from my producer that said, Hey, there's
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  Speaker 2: a station in Charlotte. I was like, really? After Sunday's game, really?
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  Speaker 2: But he said, no, no, no, no. It's college. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm down with them. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I said that Falcons, right?
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  Speaker 3: I want to know that I said that requested before
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  Speaker 3: what happened on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: That was a yes. Oh, that's true. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: think of harassing you about your Falcons. We're above that, Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: We're above that here. Hey, because here in the Carolinas,
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  Speaker 1: we've got some football issues on our hands with various teams.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you what you think about Clemson. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they came to life, it took a while, but they
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  Speaker 1: came to life against the Tar Heels. Tate Reynolds seems talented,
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  Speaker 1: but he's young. Heck, I thought the O-line actually played
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  Speaker 1: decent for a change against Carolina this Is there a
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  Speaker 1: chance for Clemson to salvage something out of this year,
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  Speaker 1: or do you think this one's going to end up
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  Speaker 1: looking ugly when it's done?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a chance Clemson's bad. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: mean bad versus the great decade and a half they
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  Speaker 2: just had, or even bad versus last year when they
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  Speaker 2: were average. I mean, there's a chance Clemson is really bad.
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  Speaker 2: They have a few NFL guys who got the defensive
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  Speaker 2: two deep. their offensive line is in big trouble. They
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  Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback who's ready to play right now.
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  Speaker 2: I bet you, if you're not a Clemson fan or
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  Speaker 2: a Cal fan, I don't think anybody listens to the
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  Speaker 2: Cal fan. If you're not a Clemson fan and you're
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  Speaker 2: watching this game Friday night, you think about that. You
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  Speaker 2: say you busted your tail all week. You probably had
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  Speaker 2: to go to your kid's high school game Friday, Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: and Sunday's already committed by things that are not from you.
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  Speaker 2: Friday night, if you stay up and watch this game,
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  Speaker 2: it literally is for one reason. You're, you're watching to
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  Speaker 2: see what happens when Dabo loses. That's all you're after.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see Dabo on the sidelines, every play
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  Speaker 2: that goes wrong. Like we're looking for the horns out.
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  Speaker 2: Or is it humble dabbo again? So that's literally, that's
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  Speaker 2: the only reason anyone's watching this game Friday, right?
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  Speaker 3: Chuck, I'm laughing as a Gamecock fan, but I probably
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be because the other day was highly disappointing what
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  Speaker 3: happened in the second half against Mississippi State. Do you
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  Speaker 3: see a path here where the Gamecocks can sort of
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  Speaker 3: have a year like they did two years ago, which
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  Speaker 3: may help save Beamer? Or do you think this is
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  Speaker 3: going to end up turning in the wrong direction for
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  Speaker 3: Beamer and the Gamecocks here in 2026?
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 2, um, I think Clemson was, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: a big, big history there of Tommy Bowden, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: coaching his way into employment in October or December, because
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  Speaker 2: even like it was like three years in a row,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to fire you Tommy. And then when you
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  Speaker 2: beat Bobby Bowden, whoever, and South Carolina to close the season,
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  Speaker 2: the Clemson coach ain't getting fired at that point. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's why they whacked him that night and what
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  Speaker 2: a wake forest. They were like, yeah, we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to give you a chance this time. My understanding of
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  Speaker 2: Shane's done and some of it is projection because you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the schedule now and it hasn't really gotten
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  Speaker 2: difficult yet. And now it's after three games and God
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  Speaker 2: bless in the first two weeks. Cause running it up
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  Speaker 2: on people. I was like, every blowout is not created
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  Speaker 2: equal for a South Carolina fan, for a player, for
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  Speaker 2: a coach. They needed some blowouts for C with proof
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  Speaker 2: of concept. And then what happened this past week, but
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  Speaker 2: even when they were up 16, nothing, if you were
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  Speaker 2: watching that game, they had not played particularly well when
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  Speaker 2: they were up 16 to nothing. Yeah. They had a
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  Speaker 2: pick on the first play of the game from Mississippi
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  Speaker 2: State and went 16 yards. They had a touchdown called back.
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  Speaker 2: It was all kinds of issues. So I think Shane's done,
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  Speaker 2: and it hasn't even got tough yet.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with Chuck Oliver, host of the Chuck Oliver Show,
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  Speaker 1: talking college football. That is what he does. Chuck, so
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  Speaker 1: I saw on the Chuck Oliver Show Twitter page, I
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  Speaker 1: saw a clip of you talking about your thoughts about, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I think Ole Miss, you know, maybe they should be
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  Speaker 1: the number one team in the country after what they
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  Speaker 1: did to LSU. Well, you know in this league, in
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  Speaker 1: the SEC, there ain't no rest for you. They got
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  Speaker 1: to go down to the swamp where they are cranked
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  Speaker 1: up for a change about a team with a legit
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  Speaker 1: offense for a change. And Florida's favored in Vegas. Like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Talk about Ole Miss and their
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  Speaker 1: start of the season. It's been great. But this game
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  Speaker 1: against Florida is no joke, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ole Miss is the better team, and they could
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  Speaker 2: lose by 14 Saturday. There's teeth in Gainesville again. And,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, an offense that is just incendiary. When they
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  Speaker 2: get Eric Singleton back, understand, I think he's the fastest
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  Speaker 2: player in college football, and he's probably going to be
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  Speaker 2: their fourth receiver in the passing game. I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: including Jaden Ball. Uh, so Florida, their offense is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And then they tackled pretty well against Auburn and they
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  Speaker 2: had a confused Auburn quarterback. And so it kind of
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  Speaker 2: worked for him in a shootout, but like If y'all
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  Speaker 2: watched Florida Auburn, I did. And Auburn was right there
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  Speaker 2: on the scoreboard the entire time. There wasn't one minute
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  Speaker 2: of the game I thought that Auburn was the better team.
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  Speaker 2: Literally not one minute. So that is life in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: I think Ole Miss is the best team as far
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  Speaker 2: as resume right now. And that could change as late
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  Speaker 2: as about, I don't know, when you're going back for
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  Speaker 2: your second run through Golden Corral's line. By the time
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  Speaker 2: you're doing that Saturday night, they could already have lost it.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck already knows this very well. He knows my routine here.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking to Chuck Oliver. He's at King CFB on
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  Speaker 3: his Twitter page, at Chuck Oliver Show on his show's
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  Speaker 3: Twitter page. All the links are there for his great content. Chuck,
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  Speaker 3: it's not hyperbole to say that the way NC State
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  Speaker 3: lost on Saturday is one of the worst ways to
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  Speaker 3: lose a football game we've ever seen. How do you
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  Speaker 3: think they respond from that? Do you think that that
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  Speaker 3: is something that you don't recover from? Or do you
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  Speaker 3: think that could galvanize them a little bit to maybe
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  Speaker 3: have a Dave Doran type year where they get to
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  Speaker 3: that nine win range again?
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  Speaker 2: Are we, are we in the age? And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know this. I don't think we are. I'm either suspicious
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  Speaker 2: or I'm cynical. I don't know. Are we still in
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  Speaker 2: the age where Tim Tebow can give that speech that
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  Speaker 2: is so emotional that you put it on a plaque
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  Speaker 2: and like nail it to the side of the stadium afterward,
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  Speaker 2: we will never lose again. We will never try harder
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  Speaker 2: than anyone. Like, are we in that age right now?
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  Speaker 2: Cause I don't think when I look at NC state,
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  Speaker 2: I really don't see CJ Bailey doing that. I, I,
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  Speaker 2: very talented quarterback. Obviously we've seen the blue sky. Was
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  Speaker 2: it the Georgia tech game last year? Holy smokes. And
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  Speaker 2: that was a big game to wake forest last year.
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  Speaker 2: Then there's been a pretty low floor, some Saturdays as well.
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  Speaker 2: So wildly talented kid and they had to choose, all right,
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  Speaker 2: how are we going to deal with this? Do we
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  Speaker 2: let CJ go and build up the lines or do
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  Speaker 2: we bring in a bunch of his buddies from high
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  Speaker 2: school and see how that works? Well, they chose choice
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  Speaker 2: B and it has not worked so far. And CJ,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, he's a very skilled kid. But he's
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  Speaker 2: still raw and he's just not finished product at all.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't see this being a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is very unusual for Dave Doran team. I thought
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  Speaker 2: I always knew salty on both lines of the scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to bully you, run the ball some. That
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  Speaker 2: is not the profile of this team.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not, man. And to your point about the
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  Speaker 1: Tebow speech, if C.J. Bailey tries to stand up this
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  Speaker 1: week and give that speech, some of his teammates are
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  Speaker 1: going to be like, sit down, you dummy. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know how to take a safety correctly. I feel
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  Speaker 1: for him, man, but that was a bad one for
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  Speaker 1: a third-year starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Um, CJ really dropped the ball and I mean that
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  Speaker 3: he actually dropped the ball for them.
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  Speaker 1: Well played. Well played. We're talking with Chuck Oliver, host
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  Speaker 1: of the Chuck Oliver show, talking some college football, Chuck,
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  Speaker 1: the sec matchups, you know, you talk so much sec ball.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous this week. The amount
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  Speaker 1: of great matchups, intriguing matchups in the sec. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about a game like Texas and Tennessee? Um,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee's biggest test was Georgia Tech, and after a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a slow start, they rolled them. But I
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  Speaker 1: still question, against a roster as talented, even at home,
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  Speaker 1: against a roster as talented as Texas, is the freshman quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: Faison Brandon, up for this? What do you think about
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  Speaker 1: that game?
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  Speaker 3: Test.
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  Speaker 2: He's been fantastic. I've been so impressed with him in
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  Speaker 2: the run game to this point as well. Really good
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  Speaker 2: stuff from him as an intentional runner. And you don't
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  Speaker 2: always get that from a freshman. Most of the time
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  Speaker 2: it's panic. So I really liked that. Here's the bigger
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  Speaker 2: point for me on Saturday. I think Texas, I think
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  Speaker 2: they go on the road. They get it done. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen start do that before he went into Tuscaloosa with Quinn.
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  Speaker 2: You were set that stadium on fire, got out of town,
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  Speaker 2: did the same thing. Ann Arbor. with Quinn Ewers. So
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  Speaker 2: he can do it. It absolutely can. I think the
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  Speaker 2: big picture here, look at the potential home schedule. If
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  Speaker 2: you cherry picked it for Texas in a year in
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  Speaker 2: the big 12, because they're.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, I thought he might bounce.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there he is. That their fans would be able
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  Speaker 2: to go visit every year. This is the reason in
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  Speaker 2: an average season in the sec, you get to make
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  Speaker 2: a road trip to Knoxville. You get to go to Athens.
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  Speaker 2: You get to have Florida come see you. It is
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  Speaker 2: an unbelievable transition. They made just having the game. That's
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  Speaker 2: why they did this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we have a lot of teams here in the
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  Speaker 3: Carolinas with a lot of issues that you've gone through.
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  Speaker 3: What have you thought of the job that Manny Diaz
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  Speaker 3: has done? his first two years into this year. Now
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  Speaker 3: they have a guy that I know Nate Shepard's not
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  Speaker 3: going to win the Heisman, but he's putting up ridiculous numbers.
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  Speaker 3: What's your overall thoughts on Manny? Diaz and what he's
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  Speaker 3: done for this Duke program?
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  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm probably not the best person to ask. Cause
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big, big, big Manny BS man. Strong beer game.
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  Speaker 2: Even like everything about Manny, I like his aggressiveness on defense.
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  Speaker 2: I think he got absolutely jobbed on the dairy and
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  Speaker 2: mints effect. Like I'm a big fan of Manny and
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  Speaker 2: that's going back to when he was a DC, like
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi state time. I always know what it is with him.
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  Speaker 2: We're going that way. Like we're here we come quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But the organizational skills, everything he's been able to show
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  Speaker 2: up there through able, like the worst adversity is the
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  Speaker 2: final 30 minutes of the portal. Your potential all American
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  Speaker 2: quarterback announces. Yeah, I'm out. And he may rebound from that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big Manny fan, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: He's amazing. All right, real quick, I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about the Georgia Bulldogs. You're right down there in
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  Speaker 1: Bulldog country in Atlanta. They have gotten off to a
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  Speaker 1: start where they are obliterating everybody, plus 138 in scoring margin.
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  Speaker 1: Stockton's numbers are ridiculous. The defense looks salty. But the
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  Speaker 1: toughest game they played is this lame Arkansas team. What
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  Speaker 1: is this Bulldog team like? How good is this team?
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  Speaker 1: And are you starting to think, OK, this could be
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  Speaker 1: a team that, you know, wins the SEC and actually
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  Speaker 1: advances in the playoff? Or do we need to slow
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  Speaker 1: down with that a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I think they've been the most efficient and impressive team
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  Speaker 2: in America by some stretches. Now, you mentioned the quality
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  Speaker 2: of the opponents, and that's sure. If you just look
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  Speaker 2: at the totality of that 180 minutes they played, though,
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  Speaker 2: I think they have put together the best 180 of
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  Speaker 2: anybody ever. in the sport of college football. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's been intentional as well. I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of kind of teaching to the test. I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of coaches have realized, oh, margin of victory.
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  Speaker 2: They've been lying to us all along. And so Kirby,
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  Speaker 2: who usually is like, I'll beat you at 31 to
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  Speaker 2: three and be 100% happy about it. Not this year.
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  Speaker 2: This season has been giddy up. for Kirby in that offense.
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  Speaker 2: And again, I think it's been intentional on their part.
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  Speaker 2: So that is a refocused, rededicated, aggressive Mike Bobo, all
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  Speaker 2: of that. You got to love that from Georgia right now.
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  Speaker 2: But I think they have been as efficient as anybody. Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck, we had a blast talking to you, man. Love it.
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  Speaker 1: You're actually a cool Falcons fan. I didn't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'd meet one of those in my life, but you're
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  Speaker 1: pretty damn cool, man. We appreciate you coming on.
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  Speaker 2: They've beaten the anger and frustration out of me.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, trust us.
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  Speaker 3: We've been there for the last decade.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: 1998, you know, 1995, Chuck, I'd have thrown down with you.
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  Speaker 1: You've lost your fight. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Chuck, I was 11 years old. That might have
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  Speaker 3: been a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that could have been an ugly scene for Young Bone.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Chuck. Be good, man. Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Peace.