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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:02Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to begin taking
- 0:06a look at the sworn statement or deposition of Juana
- 0:11Lessi all the way back in two thousand and five.
- 0:15And now, for those of you who may not know,
- 0:17Juan Alessi was Jeffrey Epstein's former house manager and somebody
- 0:23that was around during the early days, and he also
- 0:27played a key role at the Glenn Maxwell trial. So
- 0:31let's dive into this deposition and let's see what he
- 0:35had to say all the way back in two thousand
- 0:37and five. And it looks like Detective Roccari is the
- 0:40one doing the questioning, so let's get started. Question, mister Alessi,
- 0:46I'm Detective Joe Riccary with the Palm Beach Police Department.
- 0:49As I explained to you on the telephone, I'm conducting
- 0:52an investigation on a former employer of yours. I just
- 0:55spoke with your wife and she told me you guys
- 0:57worked for mister Epstein for eight years. Answer. Yes, she
- 1:02did work for eight years. I work longer. I was
- 1:04there before my wife came. Question, before your wife came. Answer.
- 1:09I started full time with them on January first, nineteen
- 1:12ninety one, and we both left December thirty first, two
- 1:15thousand and two. So I worked eleven years exactly prior
- 1:19to that. Prior to working full time forum, I worked
- 1:22part time for him on an on and off basis.
- 1:25Question what were your responsibilities? Answer in the full time basis,
- 1:29I started as a houseman, and I became a major
- 1:32domo and butler and everything else, driver and did everything.
- 1:37We both did all the chores in the house, but
- 1:39I was in charge of the house. I was above
- 1:41my wife and above the cleaning crew, the gardener's pool people.
- 1:45So I was house manager major domo. Question you would
- 1:50have been the go to guy for the house? Answer yes,
- 1:54and the one who would get the blame. Question are
- 1:57we talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Answer of course. Question do
- 2:01you remember the address of the house? Answer five poin
- 2:04fifty eight l brio. Question was it in the beginning
- 2:08of the street? Answer at the end of the street
- 2:11on the left hand side? Question we're talking about the
- 2:15same house? Answer yeah, Question your wife said the same
- 2:18number you did? Answer five p fifty eight, three fifty eight,
- 2:22five fifty eight It was three fifty eight. Answer we
- 2:25left three years ago. Question, and I understand it's been
- 2:28some time since then. So the questions I'm going to
- 2:31ask you basically is, during your time, did you deal
- 2:34directly with mister Epstein. Answer yes, and her and her
- 2:39girlfriend manager. She was the manager of all the households
- 2:42because he has homes all over the world. Question right answer,
- 2:46so we have She was my boss, and I deal
- 2:49directly with her. Question who was he gets cut off?
- 2:54Answer Glenne Maxwell. Question Miss Maxwell, that's his girlfriend. Correct answer,
- 3:00Uh huh. Question. During the eleven years he would come down,
- 3:04she would inform you that they were coming down. Answer
- 3:07right question, Make arrangements to have the house ready. Answer
- 3:11right question. During the time that he was here, you
- 3:15prepared the house, did all the chores, did all of
- 3:17the cleaning. Answer sometimes many times I did. Last two
- 3:21or three years, the work was so much that we
- 3:24have to hire we have to hire a cleanup crew
- 3:26that came twice a week or once a week. Then
- 3:29it was twice a week, depends upon a schedule. Because
- 3:32he did not allow anybody at the house except us
- 3:35when he was in town. So when he was in town,
- 3:39it was just us doing the cleaning and the cooking.
- 3:41The driving, the shopping everything else. Question did you stay
- 3:45on property in the guest house? Answer yes and no.
- 3:48We had an apartment right across the bridge. We had
- 3:50an apartment in Tower five point fifteen on Flagler, and
- 3:54we had an apartment at the house. Question why would
- 3:57you stay at the house then? Answer, we stay at
- 3:59the house house mostly when he was there. When he
- 4:02was not in town, we went home. We went to
- 4:04our apartment when he was there. It was the job
- 4:08was just too much to go home nine o'clock, ten
- 4:10o'clock and come back five o'clock in the morning. We
- 4:12would just stay and sleep and get up and go
- 4:15to work. Question When he was in town, did he
- 4:18receive a lot of guests at the house? Answer yes, many, many,
- 4:22many guests. It was never with no guests. Question did
- 4:26he have assistance with him? Answer assistance. At the last year,
- 4:30he had an assistant just for him. They would travel
- 4:33with them all the time. At the last in the
- 4:35last two years and I stayed there. He also have
- 4:37a chef, a gourmet chef that he would travel with,
- 4:40and that's it. Question do you remember the chef's name?
- 4:43Answer there were quite a few. The last one I
- 4:46know is Adam Perry Perry, I think, and he was
- 4:49from New York and of course that's Adam Perry Lang.
- 4:52And there was another French chef, did he er? I
- 4:55don't know his last name. And there was another English chef.
- 4:58But they went quickly. They would come and go, come
- 5:01and go. What about the assistant that was his personal
- 5:05assistant that would fly with them? Answer Annie Taylor. It
- 5:10was an English girl that would travel with them a
- 5:13lot and become the personal assistant. But most of the
- 5:16time it was miss Maxwell that travel with them all
- 5:19the time. And he means Emmy Taylor, not Annie Taylor.
- 5:23Just so we're correct. Question she was basically like his
- 5:27answer girlfriend whatever it was, boss girlfriend. She was our
- 5:31immediate superior. Question did he have girls come over to
- 5:34give massages? Answer yes. Question how many massages would he
- 5:39have in a day? Answer sometimes one, sometimes two, sometimes three.
- 5:44Question was it the same girl that would come back
- 5:46to do the massages? Answer? Yeah, yeah, not the same girl.
- 5:50I mean during eleven years, I probably saw one hundred
- 5:53two hundred different massage therapists. Question did they seem young
- 5:58to you? Answer no, sir, you know, I mean we
- 6:01saw one or two young ones in the last year
- 6:03before that, it was all adults. Question during your last
- 6:07year when you were working with them, what do you
- 6:09mean that they looked young? Did they look like they
- 6:11were still in high school? Answer? I remember one girl
- 6:14was young. We never asked how old she was. It
- 6:16was not my job. Question right, I understand answer, but
- 6:20I imagine she was sixteen seventeen. In my judgment, she
- 6:24was sixteen or seventeen. Question and where would the massages
- 6:27take place? Answer? All the time, it was in his room.
- 6:32Sometimes it was on the balcony of his quarters. His
- 6:34room was a wrap around balcony facing the pool, so
- 6:37the massages were in the balcony outside in the sun,
- 6:40or inside in his bathroom or her bathroom. Question would
- 6:44you set up the room for the massages? Answer? Many
- 6:47times yes, he will tell me set up the room
- 6:50inside my bathroom or in the bedroom, or in Glene's bathroom,
- 6:55or outside on the balcony, and I would go and
- 6:57set up, or my wife would go and set up
- 6:59to take So we have a table, massage table, and
- 7:02basically every room, every guest room. Question the girls that
- 7:06would come over to do massages, they would massage them first,
- 7:09or massage guests. Answer different times that were mostly they
- 7:14were his massage. Mostly he would get massages. Question would
- 7:18miss Maxwell be in the room with them when he
- 7:20was getting a massage? Answer, we don't know. Apparently we
- 7:24saw her going upstairs because it was when they went
- 7:28upstairs they closed his quarters. It had a double door,
- 7:31so it was a door on top of the stairs.
- 7:33I don't know if you've ever been in the house.
- 7:36And then there was another door going into his room,
- 7:38so it was a long corridor, so everything was closed
- 7:42and nobody saw anything. Question would you clean up after
- 7:45Answer once in a while, yes, I did. Most of
- 7:48the times I did, I did the cleanup. Question did
- 7:52it appear as if there was going to be more
- 7:54than one massage going on in the room? Answer? More
- 7:57than one massage? I don't know. It was massage. There
- 8:00was massages because it was hot oil, and it was
- 8:04you know this vibrator, the neck vibrators with the long
- 8:06handles and towels, A lot of towels. We used a
- 8:10lot of towels in the house, used like maybe forty
- 8:13or fifty towels a day because every time he go
- 8:15into the pool, it was two or three towels. Everything
- 8:19had to be cleaned up. I went most of the
- 8:21time to pick up the room and get it ready.
- 8:24Question did it ever appear to you that more went
- 8:27on in the room other than a massage? Answer? I
- 8:30just imagine. I never saw anything, but I imagine there
- 8:33was more. I never saw anything because it was closed doors.
- 8:37It was never done outside. Question based on the cleanup.
- 8:40Answer based on the cleanup at the end, I cannot
- 8:43say there was. At the end, it was a few
- 8:46times that the bed was undone. You know, we make
- 8:48the beds three or four times a day, and something.
- 8:51We went to clean up the massage, to put it
- 8:54back the massage table, to pick up the towels, but
- 8:57the bed was undone again. So either he took a
- 9:00nap or went for a nap, I don't know. Question
- 9:03or something else occurred? Answer or something else I can't question.
- 9:08Did the girls would they bring their own stuff or
- 9:11would they use his stuff? Answer? No, we had everything.
- 9:14We had gallons of stuff. Different stuff question, different massage oils, answer,
- 9:19different all kinds question, different massages answer, different stuff that
- 9:23would buy all over the world, different types for a
- 9:26different question, did any of these massagers look like sex toys? Answer?
- 9:31At the end, at the last year that we were there,
- 9:35they had like sex toys, some of them. I can
- 9:38say that maybe three or four occasions that I saw
- 9:40in the sink they were left out on the sink.
- 9:43And just question where would he keep the massagers? Answer?
- 9:48When I was there, we keep all the stuff in
- 9:51a basket inside Miss Maxwell's closet. It was a big
- 9:54basket about this round, indicating with a cover on it,
- 9:58and we used to pick up from the towel and
- 10:00just dump it in there. And that's it. That's the standard.
- 10:03We went through. Question what sink would you find those
- 10:07massagers in? Answer? Mostly his sink, question his bathroom sink?
- 10:12Was Miss Maxwell still his girlfriend at the time? Answer?
- 10:15Oh yeah, Question still his girlfriend that you know of
- 10:18right now? Answer? Yeah, we left she was still his girlfriend.
- 10:22I don't know now, but she was still there. Question
- 10:25why did you leave at the end? Answer it was
- 10:28a hard job. It was an incredibly hard job, so
- 10:31demanding hours were terrible, from five o'clock in the morning
- 10:35to ten o'clock at night, constantly on your feet. I
- 10:38got very sick. My health went down the drain. I
- 10:40was diagnosed with cancer. With cancer a kind of blood
- 10:43cancer and we had to leave. It was just too
- 10:46much for me. Question sounds like a lot. Answer Yeah,
- 10:49for me and my wife. We both left. Question it
- 10:53was very demanding when he was in town. Answer it
- 10:56was terrible. Bad job. Pay was good, but we had enough.
- 11:00Question I know you guys had a falling out a
- 11:02couple of years ago. I guess you aren't working with
- 11:05him anymore. This would have been in two thousand and three.
- 11:08You guys had of falling out, remember, Answer Yeah, we
- 11:10settled that. Question that was settled. Answer that was settled
- 11:15between him and us. Question was that Kerry's interrupted here
- 11:21by a LESSI answer? It was amicable. It was an agreement,
- 11:26mutual agreement. It was a mistake on my part. Question
- 11:29are there any questions you have of me? Answer? No,
- 11:32I told you the truth. We just imagined things that
- 11:36could have happened. I used to talk to my wife
- 11:38all day, working and under that environment, but we didn't
- 11:42know for sure what was going on. We never heard anything.
- 11:45We never heard a complaint or a girl crying. All right, folks,
- 11:49we're going to wrap up the first episode here and
- 11:51in the next episode we're going to pick up where
- 11:53we left off. All of the information that goes with
- 11:56this episode can be found in the description box.