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Episode 2: Independence Day! · Random Ass Dudes Podcast

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  All right, welcome to Episode 2. Episode 2.
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  Man, this one's pretty cool. I'm super stoked about this
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  episode. You know, it's 4th of July, So
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  this is our 4th of July special. And we've got a really special
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  guest coming on today. He's going to talk a little bit
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  about his military experience and the life stories that he's
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  got. But, you know, today we kind of
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  just wanted to take a moment and shout out the people that in
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  our, in our lives that have been very special to us, You know,
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  thinking about Independence Day and, and what that means to, to
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  us and those that have fought for us and, and really been the
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  people that have, have have given us the freedom right to,
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  to live the life that we live in.
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  And to be honest with you, to do this right here, right now.
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  You know, and, and you and I took some time just to compile
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  some of the special people in our lives and, and really just
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  put a slideshow together to, to show some love to those people
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  and, and, and really celebrate their service.
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  You know, you being one of those people have that same level, you
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  know, of, of commitment. I shouldn't say commitment, but
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  I didn't get a chance to do that or I shouldn't, I guess I
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  shouldn't say didn't get a chance.
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  I didn't do that, you know. So thank you, right, Shane, for
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  your service and, and the things that you've done.
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  You know, again, Marcus is going to come on and talk about his
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  experience, but you look at the slides and the people that are
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  on these slides and, and how important they are to to where
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  we're at today. You know, really it's just it's
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  a very special moment to be able to give, you know, show some
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  love, give some love back to those that have given so much to
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  give us these opportunities. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think
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  joining the service is one of the most selfless acts that an
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  American do, right. I mean, you're, you're literally
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  just signing your life away for like 4 years or however long,
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  you know, I know guys that are still in what from when I went
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  it when when I was in and yeah, man, great experience.
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  You know, just not just the people that like now, but also
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  got to thank the people that way before us.
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  You know, I mean, shoot, think about it being back in the the
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  colonies and starting a war to get independence from British
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  for or from the British, you know, meanwhile, they're they're
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  at work. We're not.
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  No, it's, it's just a very, very cool time, you know, to
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  celebrate that and to celebrate, celebrate the, the, like you
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  said, the, you know, just the giving of not only the four
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  years, but, you know, or even some of them more.
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  I mean, my friend Mike is 28 years in in the Air Force right
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  now getting ready to retire. Yeah.
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  But you know, you just think about the the sacrifice and the
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  commitment that you guys make. Oh, 100.
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  Percent to be away from your family and your friends and the
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  things that you guys put your bodies through, just to be able
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  to protect us so that we can do the things that we love to do.
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  Yeah. A lot of physical and mental
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  things that you know, because I, you know, I joined the Navy.
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  I got to be on a ship, you know, I had a pillow, I had a mattress
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  every day. I liked it, you know, But on on
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  my ship, we had a lot of Marines and seeing them go, you know, go
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  do whatever they had to go do, you know, they didn't have it as
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  good as what? As what we did.
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  Yeah. You know, So when, whenever it's
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  like the 4th of July, Memorial, Veteran's Day, you know, I
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  really think about those guys, you know, and you know, at the
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  time they're not just guys are kids too, you know, going into
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  war and seeing the shit that, you know, a typical American
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  will never see in their life. Yeah, and we and those of us
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  that don't have to see it, right.
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  Appreciate the efforts. And and I think, you know, I'm
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  really excited right now because, you know, we're getting
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  ready to bring our guest on and he's got some amazing stories.
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  We're going to talk about camaraderie and, you know, just
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  the things that you guys went through and stuff like that.
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  So without further ado, let's bring him in.
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  Yeah, come on, Marcus, we're good.
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  All right, Well, welcome to rad cast random ass dudes.
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  We are here with Marcus. How do you pronounce your last
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  name? It's called It's Bungard.
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  Bungard. OK, Yeah, OK.
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  It's German. Is it?
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  Yeah, It's got to be friendly. So Marcus, what what, what is it
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  that you want to be on this podcast for?
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  Well, I just wanted to come hang out really and get to, you know,
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  chat with you guys, talk about different things, you know, you
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  know, it's the rad cast. We're going to talk about, you
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  know, all kinds of different things that we, you know, think
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  about in life. You know, we're going to talk a
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  little bit about what I do and I would like to kind of get to
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  know you guys too, you know, because this is your cast and I
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  want to get to know where you guys got going on.
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  Awesome, Awesome. Well, I really, I know me and
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  Nate really appreciate you coming out here, You know,
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  driving out here from Mesa. Yeah, right.
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  How long? How long was that drive?
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  It's about two hours. 2. Hours.
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  Wow, we really appreciate it then.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully in the future, you
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  know, if anybody wants to shoot us some donations to hand out
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  some gas cards, I'm not opposed to that.
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  No, not at all. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  So. So actually I'm from Phoenix, AZ
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  so I was born and raised here. What high school did you go to?
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  I actually went to South Point High School in South Phoenix, so
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  I didn't go to the one in Tucson the most everybody else.
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  I didn't know that. Yeah.
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  I don't even know where South Point is in Phoenix.
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  It's in. It's down by baseline and
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  Central Ave. Gotcha.
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  Down South of there. Yeah.
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  It was a little tiny school when I went there.
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  It's blown up just a little bit. Yeah, You know, it's down there
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  by Cesar Chavez in South Mountain.
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  OK. All right, Cool.
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  Cool. Where'd you go to high school?
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  Peoria. Yeah.
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  P Town Panthers. Yeah. 2005.
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  What? We.
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  We just my class just 2000 what? Old.
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  Man, 2005, dude, I know. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  We're going to have Gandalf over here.
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  Dallas when he was, when he, when I graduated.
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  Class at 97. Class at 97.
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  I was like 7 years old. Bro I was born in the 70s.
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  There you go. Were you?
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  79. Oh yeah, barely.
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  Yeah, it. Doesn't.
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  Count it does. There's a 7 in front of it.
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  There it is. Yeah, it counts.
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  So this this podcast here and the reason why we we really
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  wanted you on here is because this is going to be our this is
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  our 4th of July podcast. You know, I'm a veteran, I know
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  you're a veteran and we are very pro American here and we just
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  want to give a veteran an opportunity to tell his story
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  and this is your story. Okay, cool.
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  Yeah, and really, First things first, I mean, I appreciate your
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  service for both of you, right? I didn't serve, my grandfather
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  served, and I've got a lot of family members that served.
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  So I just wanted to thank you guys really for what you've
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  done, you know, to really make sure that you know, the
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  country's as safest can be possible, right?
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  But also the the sacrifices that you guys made being away from
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  family and friends and stuff like that for the period of time
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  that you did. So I just, you know, I wanted to
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  give you both a really heartfelt gratitude that, you know, I
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  myself can speak for my family, that we appreciate that.
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  Thank you, thank you, thank you, and we appreciate your family.
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  You know, you know, the the military isn't just about one
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  single person. The military is one of those
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  things that shows us that it's not just about what's going on
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  in your life. It's it's about taking care of
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  everybody around you. And that's one of the things you
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  learn, you know, the first things you learn.
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  I could tell you a story about boot camp when I failed swim
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  call because I failed to help one of my fellow Marines.
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  You know this is the things that are embedded in you from the
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  beginning when you go into the military to take care of your
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  brother. Yep, that brotherhood, huh?
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  Yep, and it doesn't matter who you're from.
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  Your flesh, your blood, your ethnicity, it doesn't matter who
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  you are if you're part of the same mission and we take care of
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  each other. Beautifully said.
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  That's that's funny that you say that because I always tell
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  people that when I was in, I made really good friends with
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  people that I would probably never have talked to in high
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  school. Oh yeah, never.
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  Oh, yeah. You know, and you like, you
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  know, when you're in the same uniform and you, you know,
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  you're not, you're there's, you're all the same and you get
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  to know the actual person. You're like, damn, dude, like in
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  high school, I would probably like not even look at you.
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  Yep. You know, and I got really good
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  buddies that I still have communications with right now
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  that I probably wouldn't ever talk to in high school.
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  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  There's definitely people. And then, you know, there's
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  people that would talk to you that, you know, you never
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  thought would ever talk to you. You know, there's definitely
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  people that hung out with me that I would thought probably
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  would call me an idiot when I was, you know, a regular person.
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  Oh, yeah, it's cool. You know, you make friends of
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  all kinds of places from all kinds of places from the world.
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  One of my favorite people is Kim.
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  He's like this freaking tall Kim freaking, you know, he the
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  really, he wasn't any different from anybody else, just like I
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  wasn't different from anybody else.
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  The only different was the last name and the rank on your, your,
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  your uniform. That was it.
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  What do you think it what is it about the military that makes it
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  that way? Like where do you guys get the
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  Brotherhood from? Well, that starts in boot camp
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  because you have to learn to work together.
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  OK, especially in Marine Corps boot camp.
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  If you don't learn to work together, you are going to fail
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  every time. Yeah, if you if you decide to
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  become a one one man Army. Independent, yeah.
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  You know, that's funny because in boot camp they sent me a
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  shirt because my little sister joined the army and it had Army
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  of One on it and they would call me.
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  But can we cuss on this? Yeah, of course they called me
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  Bun Fuck. Army of one.
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  That's what they used to call me.
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  Gunner started Enriquez. He used to come around and call
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  me Bun Fuck. What are you doing?
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  Bun Fuck And then used to put core frames on my.
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  Face, what is that? The the fancy shoes, the dress
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  shoes we used to wear. Oh, OK.
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  He used to put my core frames on my face and tell me he stands
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  still. He's standing there with a
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  fucking shoe on my face. So I was, I was on the boxer,
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  right, LHD four, OK. And we had the 13th MEW on our
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  ship. OK, I was on the 31st.
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  Which one is that one? The one in Japan face out of
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  Japan. OK, open all.
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  The MEW yeah, OK. And talking to those Marines,
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  right, Completely different boot camp than what I went through.
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  Oh yeah, completely. Guys have no clue.
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  Marines are just another fucking animal.
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  Shane wore a Speedo and Oh yeah, you know.
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  Stop it. You had fun.
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  You had fun. We did.
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  Yeah. We learned to have fun hurting
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  each other. Yes.
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  That's that's weird. Yeah.
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  You know the thing about Marine Corps boot camp?
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  You know, because I have a son now and Junior, he's five years
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  old getting ready to start school and, and every time I see
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  him like move around and act up, you know, like that flashback to
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  Marine Corps boot camp. I think about how they literally
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  reprogram says in the five year old boys who have fun beating
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  each other up. Literally, we learn how to do
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  stuff like MCMAP, which is Marine Corps martial arts
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  program. And that's where we, you know,
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  we learn how to beat each other up, stuff like that and take
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  weapons from each other, live animals stuff, all that cool
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  stuff. And we also have these cool
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  training sessions where we do like segment rounds where we get
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  to shoot each other with paintball guns really, you know?
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  And it's like, yeah, that's. Like fun.
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  I didn't. Even think of that, you know
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  what I mean? Like we literally get turned
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  back into kids with weapons, but we're responsible kids with
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  weapons, at least most of us. You've got to pay bills, right?
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  Yeah. I mean, you got a Bill A.
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  Yeah, if you want to. Yeah, I guess so, if you.
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  Want. To there's a lot of people out
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  there not paying bills and they get they get that assistance
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  stuff we've. All been there.
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  Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe every few now and then.
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  Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
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  How old were you when you went into the Marine Corps?
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  So I was, I'm older in a sense because I was born in November.
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  OK. So I was a year behind everybody
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  in general. So when I went in the Marine
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  Corps, I was actually like, I think I was 20 when I went in
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  the Marine Corps. I had already spent a year in
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  college playing baseball. So I walked on at GCU and made
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  it to last cuts and then transferred to Rochester College
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  with a recommendation from the GCU head coach and I played it
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  with Rochester College in Michigan.
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  For a year. So I did that and then I came
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  back before I joined, so I was like 20 years old, 19.
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  You you look back and you think that's old, but really US here
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  now, that's still pretty damn young, but.
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  What is it though, right when it when you come to like going into
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  boot camp because you're probably 2 years older than most
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  everybody at that point. I'm except for like people like
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  because we had we had one squad. I can't remember what number it
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  was, but I was India Company and I think I was 3201 India
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  Company. I don't know why I remember that
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  today, but we, we had one guy who was a Navy guy.
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  He's like freaking 35 years old. For real.
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  Dude transferred from Navy to Marines and he had to go through
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  boot camp. So he had to start over and he
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  didn't start over like from like Sergeant or something.
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  No, he started over from the bottom.
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  He had to earn his rank through boot camp.
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  And you can like earn rank through boot camp.
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  There's point systems and stuff like that and you can like all
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  kinds of different things, you know, make Matt belt belting up
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  and stuff like that because there is a belt system to it and
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  guys who can perform, you know, they get pumped up or like I
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  believe that. I don't know if they still do
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  it. If you like our squad leader
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  guide or if you are a guide, they call it.
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  I'm sorry. You said guide.
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  Guide, guide, yeah. So we have guides, guys who look
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  over the whole platoon and then you have squad leaders who help
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  him look over, you know squads usually most squads are like 5-6
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  man deep. So if you are one of them, you
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  usually graduate a rank up. You get an honorary rank like
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  Lance Corporal. And if you go into the if you go
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  into the service with Lance Corporal, you work your butt off
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  in boot camp and, you know, do the work.
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  Dude, the Sky's the limits. Yeah, for most guys, you know
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  you can. You can become a Sergeant in two
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  years and be living a good life. Yeah, well, why did you choose
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  the Marines? But what was it about?
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  Did you check other the other branches or?
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  Well, IA very important man to me, very intelligent man who's
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  no longer with us. My grandfather told me.
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  What's his name? Ronald.
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  Ronald Bungerton, he, he told me a long time ago, you know, we're
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  not part of the, the, the bitch department.
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  So there was no other choice, you know, it was Marines or not
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  the yeah, couldn't do it. You know, even the Navy, you
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  know, there's a lot of Navy guys would be like, oh, you're a
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  Department of the Navy. And I'm like, yeah, we're the
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  men's. Department.
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  Yeah, we, yeah. Tip in the sphere.
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  Yeah, eating crayons in the last.
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  First and last out you. Know yeah, I've heard a lot of.
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  That hey, yeah, yeah, hey. Crayons got a lot of carbs to
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  it. That's good.
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  That's good. I'm glad you know.
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  Oh man, red's my favorite color Cherry.
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  For sure, for sure. You gotta pop it sometime.
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  Oh yeah, Oh yeah, you snap that thing off.
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  Actually, you peel it off, though.
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  The paper is the part too. That's awesome.
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  That's awesome. So your grandfather was a big
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  reason why you joined the Marines.
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  Well, he was, you know, he's a big reason of a lot of things in
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  my life. He, my dad wasn't really in my
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  life 100%. He was in and out of my life
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  regularly. But my grandfather was, you
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  know, one of those people that I, I learned a lot from.
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  I used to go out on the truck with him.
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  He used to be a truck driver, truck driver, like most of his
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  life that I knew him and he would, we would go out on the
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  truck everywhere. Man, I've been to almost every
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  state in the United States except like Alaska probably.
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  Yeah, I think I've only not been to Alaska just because I got to
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  ride around the truck with him state to state over the summers,
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  over time and stuff like that. Was your grandfather alive when
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  you went in? Still?
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  Yes. OK.
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  Yeah, yes. Is he still with us today?
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  No, no, he actually passed away a couple of years ago, last
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  month, actually. Sorry to.
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  Hear that, man? Thank you.
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  It, you know, it's, it's not really about, you know, in the
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  end, you know, you got to think about what you, what you're
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  leaving behind sometimes, you know, and he left a lot of good
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  things behind. You know, one of my favorite
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  things that we used to do is watch wrestling WWE, you know,
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  I've watched WWEWWFWCW, you know, all that ECW, we used to
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  watch all that stuff together. So that was fun, you know, those
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  are memories I get to keep, you know, and I get to pass down to
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  my kids because my kids like wrestling now.
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  You know, every now and then I'll come walking past the room.
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  Here comes my son off the top row.
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  I'm like, no, that's how I broke my arm.
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  So stop. That's awesome, man.
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  Oh yeah, dude. What was your job in the
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  Marines? So I was a radio operator.
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  OK, so I I operated and worked on radios for most of the time.
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  I also was a rifle instructor, which was pretty cool.
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  I got to go to rifle school there in 29 Palms and then learn
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  how to shoot rifles. I was an expert, got rifle
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  expert, pistol expert, and then, you know, stayed around and did
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  coaching and stuff like that. And you were eight years, right?
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  So four years active, four years inactive.
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  Yep, Yep. I signed up for the inactive
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  reserves when I got out just because I if I don't know, I
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  don't know if I was done. So I waited.
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  I waited it out, waited out with a couple of the things, a couple
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  of the meetings, one of the couple of the we have to meet up
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  and do a little exercise and stuff like that.
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  I did a few of those. And then about three years, I
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  got the e-mail, you know, hey, are you going to stay in
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  tonight? And I'm like, no, I think I'm
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  done. Yeah.
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  So I decided to get out. But in a heartbeat I, you know,
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  I drop and protect what I had to protect if I had to.
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  So that's just forever in my blood now.
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  Did you deploy? No, I didn't get every chance to
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  get deployed. I put in for like a couple.
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  I got denied for a few, overselected for a few.
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  Just happens. Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
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  And then I went on multiple C deployments with the 31st MU.
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  We went all around. We did things like going to Guam
• 19:09
  and doing exercises there. Philippines, Malaysia.
• 19:13
  We were in Malaysia for a little bit, you know, kind of cool
• 19:15
  stuff. So you guys did a Westpac?
• 19:18
  Yeah, yeah. And then we also, we also were
• 19:21
  part of the 31st move when I got first got with them.
• 19:24
  We are part of support with the tsunami that knocked out the
• 19:28
  power plant. Oh yeah.
• 19:30
  Japan, Yeah. So I had just gotten on island
• 19:33
  when that tsunami hit. Damn, what?
• 19:35
  Was that experience like? Yeah.
• 19:37
  Have you seen a wall of water? No.
• 19:40
  Just a wall of dust. Dude that's think about a wall
• 19:43
  of dust and then think about like you can drown in that.
• 19:47
  Like that was like a wall of water.
• 19:48
  Dude like that's. Crazy I see videos.
• 19:51
  Oh, dude, it's crazy. It was the some of the craziest
• 19:53
  things I've ever seen. I've seen cars get flipped on
• 19:55
  their side and slid down the street.
• 19:59
  Rooms get flooded, buildings get flooded.
• 20:01
  I've seen trees get knocked. You know, you see trees get
• 20:05
  knocked down to the places. You know, there was times when,
• 20:08
  because when I first got on island, we were part of, you
• 20:11
  know, the Bravo unit of. The MU or like the 7th com, the
• 20:19
  headquarters baton, we were in charge of keeping like a radio
• 20:22
  connection, keeping a radio connection for the whole base,
• 20:27
  you know, stuff like that. So we would have to sit up and
• 20:30
  stay awake and be on these radios.
• 20:32
  And I don't know, have you seen, you know, what an OE is, right?
• 20:35
  No. So an OE antenna is this big
• 20:38
  long standing antenna that goes up.
• 20:40
  It's kind of like this much wide at the base and then it gets
• 20:44
  skinnier at the top and it's got a little rounded half sphere
• 20:47
  cone on. It's got sticks sticking out of
• 20:50
  it. Looks stupid.
• 20:50
  Don't tell a Navy guy that. Dude, yeah, I tell you why Navy
• 20:55
  guy might love that dude. It looks, it looks like a
• 20:59
  dandelion, you know? Yeah.
• 21:01
  Is that what that is? Not a dandelion?
• 21:03
  The one where you blow it in it. Oh yeah, yeah, you definitely
• 21:06
  should have been in the Navy. You.
• 21:09
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So.
• 21:13
  So it literally looks like a flower almost.
• 21:15
  Yeah. So we're on radio watch and I'm
• 21:18
  sitting there and I'm listening for radio calls and stuff like
• 21:21
  that. And all of a sudden the radio
• 21:23
  just kind of does 100 mile freaking take off towards the
• 21:27
  window because the OE gets sucked up in the freaking storm
• 21:32
  and tossed down the parking lot and the radio's attached to
• 21:35
  that. So we've got a radio that's
• 21:37
  flying almost out the window. It is there, you know, there's
• 21:41
  storms and stuff like that, you know, being on ship too.
• 21:46
  Yeah. They.
• 21:46
  Oh, yeah. So, you know, some people go
• 21:48
  like, oh, I don't, I don't go out on the water in the boat.
• 21:50
  I was like, yeah, no, thank you. I I, you know they, you know,
• 21:55
  they're different. Yeah, it's.
• 21:56
  Different, It's really different.
• 21:58
  And people, some people don't realize that, like the waves
• 22:01
  that you see closer to shore, those are 15, 20 times bigger
• 22:08
  way out there, out to sea. And the animals, The fish.
• 22:12
  Yeah, the sharks. Like we've been waves.
• 22:14
  Come on deck, dude. Oh dude, we've been.
• 22:16
  Rocked. Dude, Yeah, that's crazy.
• 22:18
  We're talking like straight bow, up, down, up, down, freaking.
• 22:23
  We've been rocked before. We've been left out in the
• 22:26
  middle of the water with no power.
• 22:28
  Oh Jesus dude. Yeah, we broke that one.
• 22:30
  Damn, yuck, talking about eating peanut butter and Jelly
• 22:33
  sandwiches for the next three days.
• 22:36
  I'll do that was all there was because if they open up the
• 22:38
  freezer, the food would go back and we'd run out of food.
• 22:41
  I tell you what, man, when I was on deployment, every time the
• 22:45
  Marines cook anything, I was excited.
• 22:48
  Yeah, because they didn't give a shit.
• 22:51
  We were like, what do we got? Let's get, hey, let's get some
• 22:53
  chicken, let's get some greens, let's put some spices on there.
• 22:56
  But then when the Navy started cooking, it's like, hold on,
• 23:00
  hold on. We have to dial it back a little
• 23:02
  bit, you know? Oh, yeah.
• 23:03
  Hell no, man. Like feed me good right now,
• 23:06
  right now. You know I'll suffer later.
• 23:09
  You want to go to Anitas for some fajitas.
• 23:11
  No. Oh, man, that sounds like
• 23:14
  trouble. Yeah.
• 23:16
  I mean, the Marine Corps cooks are a lot different from the
• 23:18
  Navy cooks. Yeah.
• 23:19
  Oh, yeah. And on ship it's a little bit
• 23:21
  different too, because it's based on supply.
• 23:23
  So what did what did the chef order?
• 23:26
  Yeah, yeah. Did he?
• 23:27
  Was he an asshole or did he? Not long have you been out.
• 23:30
  Yeah. Oh, yes.
• 23:31
  Oh, dude, yeah. If if you're out there for
• 23:33
  extended amount of time, you know, food starts to run out.
• 23:37
  It's it's not like you're at home at the grocery store.
• 23:41
  You can go down the street. When when we run out of food, we
• 23:43
  run out of food. You're eating MRE's.
• 23:45
  And I think that's part that like the average person doesn't
• 23:49
  think about. No, when you look at the
• 23:51
  military and you guys are out, right?
• 23:52
  It's like, you know, here we're all blessed with that.
• 23:55
  We can run to the grocery store, run out for fast food during the
• 23:58
  day. I mean, Jesus, we get bored at
• 24:00
  home and we're like, oh, let's go to Delgado's for some shrimp
• 24:02
  tacos, right? You don't have that luxury.
• 24:04
  You're eating what you got. And, and sometimes it's very,
• 24:07
  very little. Yeah.
• 24:08
  And I mean, you know, there are there are places around the
• 24:12
  world where we have bases and stuff like that that have
• 24:14
  certain amenities that can accommodate, but they only
• 24:18
  accommodate so far. Sure.
• 24:20
  You know, it only goes so far and then, you know, because you
• 24:24
  have to worry about safety, health, safety like that, who's
• 24:28
  bringing it on the base and stuff like that.
• 24:30
  They've, you know, they got guards and stuff for all that.
• 24:33
  But when we're like out and we're doing like, we'll just so
• 24:38
  we'll say movements or we'll call them operations, we're out
• 24:42
  doing these things and they hand out food.
• 24:43
  That's that's what you got big dog, you run out of food.
• 24:48
  That's not you, man. You eat too fast or too much.
• 24:50
  Where's the hot sauce? At yeah, exactly.
• 24:53
  You better start chewing that little white gum inside that MRE
• 24:56
  and save some room, bro, because yeah, it's it's no good, but you
• 25:00
  know MRE's anyways, dude they're they're so filly.
• 25:04
  I'll tell you what, man, I've never They are.
• 25:06
  They are. They'll fill you up if you run
• 25:09
  out of food. With MRE, you're you're, you're
• 25:11
  an overweight. You're overweight, big dog.
• 25:15
  What? So what years did you serve?
• 25:18
  2 SO 2010 July to 2014 July OK, this is my active service.
• 25:25
  Nice. So you did your full four years?
• 25:27
  Yep, I did have a situation where I was shipped off to
• 25:31
  Hawaii because I did have a few Tvis and some training incidents
• 25:35
  from boot camp and stuff like that.
• 25:38
  And those who don't know what that is, it's a traumatic brain
• 25:39
  injury. So they made me go do some
• 25:43
  testing in Hawaii, sent me to that Army base in Hawaii to do
• 25:48
  all that testing. I went to the hospital, do all
• 25:52
  the testing. And at the end the ladies are
• 25:53
  like, do you want to like get out or do you want to finish
• 25:55
  your career? And I'm thinking in my hands,
• 25:57
  like I wasn't raised as no, no, bitch, I want to finish my
• 26:01
  career. You know, part of me thinks, you
• 26:04
  know, maybe I should have just said I'm ready to get the hell
• 26:05
  out, you know, because it seems like she was ready to send me
• 26:08
  home with 100%, you know, No, Yeah.
• 26:11
  I, I, I had to overcome some of those things.
• 26:15
  I had some memory issues for some reason, but it was it was
• 26:21
  probably some of the best times in my life.
• 26:23
  I mean, there are sometimes. I probably went overboard.
• 26:28
  I got a little drunker than I should have been.
• 26:29
  That's. Everybody that's.
• 26:30
  Probably the military. Reason I don't drink anymore.
• 26:34
  Hey, there you go. Yeah.
• 26:35
  It doesn't. It doesn't matter where you come
• 26:37
  from. Everybody's probably had that.
• 26:39
  Oh yeah, And, you know, I got Irish, you know, in my blood.
• 26:42
  So I did. I drink like crazy.
• 26:46
  Yeah, it used to be bad. So are you one of the Irish that
• 26:48
  doesn't get hungover? Exactly.
• 26:51
  Oh, these Damn. Why is it about?
• 26:53
  What is it about that? So I got a buddy that's the same
• 26:56
  way. Like he can drink till 3:00 AM
• 26:58
  and he's up at six, no hangover. No, yeah, I used to.
• 27:01
  I used to be bad. You know, alcohol is not the
• 27:03
  answer at all at any point. I used to be really bad.
• 27:07
  I used to drink like I used to take like a shot of Grey Goose,
• 27:13
  throw it in my red Solo cup and crack a freaking orange soda and
• 27:18
  drink it before PT. Damn.
• 27:21
  Almost every day. Well, that's a Little Mix of him
• 27:24
  being an Irish and a Marine. Yeah.
• 27:26
  That's what I say. That's it.
• 27:28
  That's exactly what I mean by Marines.
• 27:30
  The Marines are just a different human being, too.
• 27:32
  Yeah, like that, that that gets your body warmed up.
• 27:34
  You're ready to freaking go before you hit the deck.
• 27:36
  Yeah. Feeder feeder ready in motion.
• 27:39
  You're ready to go that. Fucking desert dogs.
• 27:40
  Man, put some hair on your chest.
• 27:42
  Man. I you know, and there are a lot
• 27:45
  of good, there are a lot of good Marines out there.
• 27:47
  I'm not saying drinking's a bad thing for Marines.
• 27:52
  It is a depressant kind of thing.
• 27:55
  Like it helps with depression and stuff like that, which is
• 27:57
  something that is going to be, you know, unknowing to those who
• 28:04
  are joining, wake up because there will be depression
• 28:10
  imprints on you when you join the military, no matter what
• 28:13
  service you're on. Because no matter who you are as
• 28:16
  a human being, unless you have gone through probably some of
• 28:19
  the even when you've gone through some of the roughest
• 28:21
  times in the world or, you know, grew up in the hardest parts of
• 28:25
  town, you're going to have separation anxiety situations.
• 28:31
  You're, you're going to, you know, you're going to face
• 28:33
  situations where you're feeling like, what am I doing this for?
• 28:36
  There are going to be times when you hear the news or you see
• 28:40
  somebody do something stupid, you're like, what?
• 28:42
  Where the heck am I protecting these people?
• 28:44
  You know, people and you know, people are going to question
• 28:46
  themselves and stuff like that. And that's just natural human
• 28:50
  nature. So when when you when you put a
• 28:55
  human in that situation, we are, I don't want to call it
• 28:59
  programming. I don't want to call it
• 29:01
  programming because you're not really programmed because I
• 29:03
  mean, you can come back and have a regular life.
• 29:06
  There are guys that can handle it more or you know, that have a
• 29:10
  better mental makeup for him. And then there are some people
• 29:14
  that went through too much and you know, they just, they don't
• 29:17
  know how to put one in one, one and one together to make 2.
• 29:20
  And you know, you know, it's good for them to have help.
• 29:24
  You know, we did have an issue where we guys were having a hard
• 29:27
  time getting help. But now it's gotten better and
• 29:30
  more vets are getting help. The words getting out about
• 29:34
  mental awareness and stuff like that.
• 29:36
  And you know, we're getting more guys that are from the
• 29:41
  generation I, you know, they all call it like Generation Z, the
• 29:45
  all those different generations, you know, just the generation of
• 29:47
  guys who were raised by fathers who taught you to suck it the
• 29:51
  hell up, right, right. To get it done.
• 29:55
  Now there's a time and place for that.
• 29:58
  And there has to be a time and base for that, especially for
• 30:00
  men. But you know when you're we're
• 30:05
  told that all the time and then you go and you do military
• 30:09
  service and it's just about, you know, get after it, get after
• 30:13
  it, Hurry up and wait. Get to work.
• 30:14
  Let's go. Wake up early.
• 30:16
  Let's go. We gotta go.
• 30:17
  Shoot, we gotta do that. Are you?
• 30:18
  Sure you want to go to medical Exactly are.
• 30:19
  You sure? Exactly.
• 30:20
  Do you really? Do you?
• 30:22
  Really need to yeah 'cause we have to do this right.
• 30:24
  Now you know, I blew out my ankle on a four mile hike.
• 30:28
  I blew it out like 2 miles in and I finished the hike and then
• 30:32
  when I got back, I had to be helped down the hill in, in
• 30:36
  Japan to the area where they help with, they check on your,
• 30:40
  they do all this medical, medical stuff and things like
• 30:43
  that. And they ended up pulling and
• 30:46
  straining and tearing one of the ligaments in my ankle and on
• 30:49
  crutches for like 3-3 years or three months, three months,
• 30:52
  three years, three months. And it happened to be during one
• 30:56
  of the rain seasons out there. God damn, dude.
• 30:59
  That was, I'll tell you what, that's miserable right there.
• 31:01
  I'm on crutches trying to keep up with everybody and there's
• 31:04
  just rain everywhere. Does water everybody?
• 31:07
  But you think about the mental toughness there, right?
• 31:10
  Like the average person is not going to just continue the extra
• 31:13
  2 miles. No, I got to finish right.
• 31:15
  We finish. Right.
• 31:16
  That goes back to like we were talking about having the dog
• 31:18
  inside you, right? Is like you just have to have
• 31:20
  the desire to finish no matter what.
• 31:22
  Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't that I'm going to
• 31:25
  quit. You were going to finish it no
• 31:27
  matter what. Oh yeah, there's no option to
• 31:28
  quit, right? Yeah, especially for Marines in
• 31:30
  particular. There is no other option.
• 31:32
  You either accomplish the duty that's been a task to you or you
• 31:36
  die. Try.
• 31:36
  Yeah, sure. That's that's it.
• 31:38
  And you know, there's a lot of Marines out there that live that
• 31:41
  life still today, but they have it in different ways of what
• 31:44
  they do, like I do bull riding, you know.
• 31:47
  So I've been doing that again now for the last three years.
• 31:50
  And I played, I played a little bit of semi pro baseball and and
• 31:56
  I'll tell you what, there is not a single point in time when I
• 31:59
  get in the box or when I get in the chute with the bull, then
• 32:02
  I'm thinking, oh man, I'm going to get hurt.
• 32:04
  You know, it's not about that. It's about, Oh yeah, we're going
• 32:07
  to have some fun. You know, I I don't know what it
• 32:11
  is, you know, but in particular for bull riding for me, yeah.
• 32:16
  I just love the feeling of the animal.
• 32:20
  It, you know, you just right there and you can feel him feel
• 32:25
  you like he can, he can he's twitching in there.
• 32:28
  He's moving around and you can feel that he can tell you're
• 32:32
  there and it's like you can absorb their energy and it's
• 32:37
  like it's like this beautiful dance between man and beast.
• 32:40
  It really is. You know, there's a lot of
• 32:42
  people out there that look down on bull riding and they they see
• 32:46
  it as a dangerous sport and don't get me wrong, it is
• 32:48
  dangerous. It's very dangerous.
• 32:49
  It is very dangerous, but it is very dangerous for me to go down
• 32:53
  the street here, hit the right and try to turn left back on and
• 32:56
  go home because it's some semi truck driver or me.
• 33:00
  I if I just not paying attention and I get smoked.
• 33:04
  Yeah, you know, life, life is fragile.
• 33:07
  Life is dangerous. Yeah, it's fragile.
• 33:09
  It's and technically it's fragile.
• 33:11
  It's the body is an Organism of survival and that's something
• 33:14
  that, you know, people have to come to agreements with that
• 33:18
  your body's going to survive. You know, whether you're putting
• 33:20
  water or you're putting Mountain Dew in your body, your body's
• 33:24
  going to try to find a way to survive.
• 33:26
  I mean, it's going to pull things that needs sugars,
• 33:29
  whatever it needs from what you you intake, and it's going to
• 33:32
  give you what you need to keep going in the situation that
• 33:35
  you're in. And for me, you know, I don't
• 33:38
  know if it's just a competitive edge or anything like that.
• 33:41
  I don't know what it is, but man do I just love.
• 33:45
  I love that thrill. I don't know, 8 seconds dude.
• 33:48
  Well, so how does that all tie in right?
• 33:50
  8 seconds we're talking. 10 seconds we ride past the whistle
• 33:54
  and we tip off on there. You go so you know talking about
• 33:58
  that, though, like you think about growing up playing ball
• 34:01
  right. So you play obviously play
• 34:03
  baseball through high school into college, yes, going to the
• 34:06
  Marines. You buck bulls as a kid.
• 34:08
  Now you're getting back into it like how does what is the I
• 34:11
  guess what is the consistency between the three that that you
• 34:17
  can connect where you everybody talks about the competitive
• 34:20
  edge, right? It's not about being competitive
• 34:23
  when you get on a bolt for the first time.
• 34:26
  I mean, let's be honest, everybody, no matter who it is,
• 34:29
  you're scared out of your life right before you jump on a bull
• 34:32
  that's 2000 lbs of pure evil. Oh yeah.
• 34:35
  That you're jumping on. Oh yeah.
• 34:37
  So how did like, how does how does what you learned growing up
• 34:41
  and then going into the military and doing all these other things
• 34:43
  create that mindset to get you to still get on a bull to this
• 34:47
  day, knowing that you broke your wrist and you've had all this
• 34:50
  damage to your body? Like where does that come from?
• 34:52
  You know, you know, about halfway through there I had an
• 34:54
  answer for you. I'm going to change it.
• 34:57
  I'm going to talk about a word that everybody has in their
• 35:01
  life. They wear it up here most of the
• 35:03
  time and sometimes they wear it in here.
• 35:05
  It's called fear. You know, one of the most
• 35:09
  consistent things that I remember throughout my entire
• 35:12
  life as a kid is there was always something to fear in
• 35:15
  life. But the Lord didn't build us
• 35:18
  with fear. He didn't build us to take on
• 35:20
  fear and, and be scared of it. He built us to take on fear and
• 35:25
  attack it. So I don't know if it's just
• 35:30
  because of traumatic events have happened in my life over time
• 35:33
  and a continuation, you know, we'll just say we'll, we'll tie
• 35:37
  it all together. Because no matter where I was in
• 35:41
  the stages of my life, there was something for me to fear.
• 35:45
  You know, growing up as a kid, I was a smaller kid.
• 35:48
  I was the smaller kid. I was literally I mean I'm only
• 35:51
  like 5-7 now about 7. Most women wouldn't date me.
• 35:55
  Thank you, my beautiful wife, for marrying me.
• 35:58
  What's her name? Shout out.
• 35:59
  Jackie. There you go, Jackie.
• 36:01
  Thank you. You know, it's a good thing she
• 36:03
  loves dogs. She took this double dog in off
• 36:07
  the street. So I'm I'm so blessed that she
• 36:10
  loves dogs. Well, she's she's she's Mexican,
• 36:13
  right? Yeah.
• 36:13
  She's Mexican, so. Have you got her to say Poppy
• 36:16
  yet? Call you Poppy.
• 36:17
  I'm not gonna say that. OK, yeah, I'm still trying to
• 36:20
  get my wife to call me Poppy. Oh yeah, she won't.
• 36:23
  I'll teach you the trick. Alright.
• 36:26
  Yep, you guys use the, you gotta use the.
• 36:29
  My man, you. Gotta use the water bottle.
• 36:31
  You say? Spanish answers lonely.
• 36:36
  Oh man. But dude, like no matter what
• 36:39
  level of life I was from when I was a little kid, everybody was
• 36:42
  bigger than me. In baseball, everybody's bigger
• 36:44
  than me. And in baseball, I played
• 36:46
  catcher. Wow.
• 36:48
  I was a catcher. I was a small catcher, but I was
• 36:50
  quick. I was fast.
• 36:51
  I wasn't afraid of blocking, you know, I wasn't afraid of
• 36:56
  standing in front of guys coming to home play because when I
• 36:58
  started playing baseball, guys were still running over
• 36:59
  catchers. Now it's illegal now.
• 37:02
  Now they're a little bit softer. I know that a.
• 37:04
  Little bit softer. Yeah, Yeah, there's all.
• 37:06
  Kinds of not to like take a shot at any baseball players out
• 37:10
  there that are watching or maybe watching in the future, you
• 37:12
  know, but they have taken back some of the.
• 37:20
  The physical, Yeah, the physical side.
• 37:23
  Of the sport and have, you know, kind of made it a little bit
• 37:28
  safer, which is good because it does bring on longevity for the
• 37:31
  athlete, for the organization. And they're not wasting money on
• 37:35
  guys because, you know, they are paying these guys a lot of money
• 37:38
  to be out there. But, you know, from that to high
• 37:43
  school, I grew up in, I basically grew up in South
• 37:46
  Phoenix. I was one of three white kids in
• 37:50
  my school up until when my brother got into high school,
• 37:52
  right before I got out of high school.
• 37:53
  There's four of us. So I grew up in a, in a
• 37:57
  community that was technically, you know, beaten by the system,
• 38:06
  you know, and as a young red headed white kid, you know, in
• 38:12
  that kind of environment, I wasn't always accepted.
• 38:15
  So you learn how to brush things off over time, learn how to
• 38:19
  protect myself, learn how to fight, things like that.
• 38:22
  Took boxing classes and stuff like that was pretty cool, you
• 38:27
  know, things like that. And you know, those things I, I
• 38:31
  thought I had to fear. I didn't fear.
• 38:33
  And when I didn't fear those things, I've seen more success
• 38:37
  in my life than I've ever seen before, especially with like
• 38:41
  bull riding, like when I have when I have kids come to me and
• 38:44
  they talk about bull riding, I tell you, you can't be afraid of
• 38:47
  it. He's he's just an animal.
• 38:50
  And the misconception about bull riding is that they, you know,
• 38:55
  they tie a rope around his junk and make him mad.
• 38:57
  No, the the rope goes, the flank goes around his hips and it just
• 39:03
  tightens the hips up, which causes him the reaction to any
• 39:07
  animal like that, if they're going to is the kick.
• 39:11
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Like there's plenty of times you
• 39:14
  can go out and watch low level riding and practice nights, you
• 39:17
  know, at the Roadrunner, shout out to the Roadrunner, you know,
• 39:20
  Cave Creek, you know, and in Cave Creek you have Buffalo Chip
• 39:24
  and then you have. On there.
• 39:25
  Do you ride a lot at the Roadrunner?
• 39:27
  I go to the Roadrunner and I go to Apache Junction out at the
• 39:31
  hitching post too. OK, OK, Yep.
• 39:33
  So, I mean, there's a lot of easier bulls out there that
• 39:38
  don't kick like that, and that's OK if you know for beginners to
• 39:42
  get on and get used to just having the animal between the
• 39:45
  legs. Just to feel that.
• 39:47
  Exactly. And, and the understanding that
• 39:50
  most people have is that when the bull bucks you off, he's
• 39:52
  looking to hurt you. If you watch, if you, if you
• 39:56
  actually watch and spend time watching the different levels of
• 40:00
  bulls that are out there, the higher level the bull.
• 40:04
  The most likely that Bull does not want anything to do with you
• 40:07
  once you hit the ground. Yeah, once you hit the ground,
• 40:09
  he's spinning because he's picking up, you know,
• 40:12
  bullfighter. So bullfighter, bullfighter,
• 40:14
  bullfighter. He's.
• 40:15
  And then he's like, oh, he's he's not there anymore.
• 40:17
  Yeah. Let me get out of here.
• 40:19
  You just happened to the wrong place, wrong time.
• 40:20
  There's a that that's how most riders get hurt once they hit
• 40:24
  the ground. You just happened to be in the
• 40:26
  wrong place. We'll just say like I had a
• 40:29
  situation where I got I got slammed and the next jump, his
• 40:33
  back clothes landed on my back. You know, that's just happened.
• 40:36
  That's just when you fall sometimes near the animal and
• 40:40
  he's still going. You're sometimes you're going to
• 40:42
  get hit. I mean some of them.
• 40:44
  And when you fall, you fall in front of them and he sees you,
• 40:48
  he's going to, he's going to dig a little bit.
• 40:50
  But I mean, you know, if you ever watch like Bullfight and if
• 40:55
  you hit the ground, most of the time they run right over top of
• 40:57
  you. Yeah.
• 40:59
  So things like that. And then people, you know, we,
• 41:03
  we have safety equipment we wear.
• 41:05
  Some guys don't even like but even like the guys who go hat
• 41:10
  down. If people don't know what hat
• 41:11
  down is where they just wear a hat.
• 41:13
  Oh gotcha. If they don't, wear a.
• 41:15
  Helmet. Yeah, they don't wear a helmet.
• 41:16
  So guys who go hat down, there's also hats out there that have
• 41:20
  like a little bit of a shielding in there and it has like a strap
• 41:25
  on it, like you would have like a construction hat.
• 41:28
  So it's holding the hat on their head.
• 41:32
  So even with that, I mean like dude, it's you can't fear things
• 41:37
  in life in general. It doesn't matter what you do.
• 41:40
  So the last episode that me and Nate did, well, our first
• 41:44
  episode we were talking about him, he went over a horse,
• 41:47
  right? And just that mental part of
• 41:52
  when you're in a really dangerous situation and how you
• 41:55
  could think real fast is that, is that something that like you
• 41:59
  do as a bull rider? Like, you know, I'm sure you
• 42:02
  could feel when you're having a good ride, but once you know
• 42:05
  that you're coming off, what is that feeling like?
• 42:09
  What are you like? Are you thinking?
• 42:11
  Are you just kind of reacting or what?
• 42:14
  So I guess that would depend on coming off in the situation.
• 42:19
  So sometimes you just you don't know.
• 42:24
  Yeah, like you're. Feeling good.
• 42:25
  You're feeling good, you're feeling good.
• 42:27
  And then your feet are in the air and you're looking at the
• 42:29
  dirt and you're on. You're done.
• 42:31
  You're already on the dirt. There's times, you know, I, I
• 42:34
  rode a bull and I got hell. I don't know if you know what a
• 42:36
  helicopter is. You know what a helicopter.
• 42:38
  You know how the blade spins in a circle?
• 42:40
  Well, we call it being helicoptered when a bull bucks
• 42:43
  you and spins you. I've been helicoptered and
• 42:46
  tossed like 1010 feet. Freaking hooked me with this.
• 42:50
  I got pulled down his horn and hooked me across the jaw and I
• 42:53
  went but across the arena. But like, you know, when I'm in
• 43:00
  a position where I think I'm out of position, my first thought is
• 43:04
  how long can I hold on? I'm not thinking what.
• 43:08
  Do you mean how long can I hold? Them How long can I hold this
• 43:10
  position? Oh, gotcha.
• 43:11
  I'm good here. Can I hold this long enough to
• 43:16
  get the A? Yeah.
• 43:17
  Can I stay here? But that's the position that
• 43:19
  probably you don't want to be. In, you don't.
• 43:21
  As a rider, most of the time you don't, but that's that's.
• 43:23
  What? What is the position you want to
• 43:25
  be in? What is a perfect bull riding
• 43:28
  position? So a perfect bull riding
• 43:32
  position depends on the writer. I would.
• 43:35
  Imagine. It's different.
• 43:36
  It's different from writer to writer because there are some
• 43:39
  writers that they put their weight on their inner thighs and
• 43:43
  their knees and they sit more of an angle over the bull.
• 43:48
  And there are other riders that are taller, let's say like a
• 43:51
  Brady Fielder that have to sit up taller and they have to bring
• 43:55
  their knees up into the bowl. Because if because their legs
• 43:58
  are so long, they can't sink their legs down around the bowl
• 44:02
  because if they do, their heels will click most of the time.
• 44:05
  And if their heels are clicking, then they're not grabbing onto
• 44:08
  nothing. So they have nothing to hold on
• 44:09
  to. So if you're ever seeing Brady
• 44:11
  Fielder ride, that's actually, you know, watch, watch how I
• 44:15
  ride. He sits up more and he's got
• 44:17
  more of an upright position. Same with, I think it's Bob.
• 44:21
  I can't remember his last name, but yeah, there's guys like
• 44:26
  that. Mason Taylor's the same way.
• 44:29
  And then you have people like the Frost family, Josh Frost and
• 44:33
  them they, they ride more, they have more of a, of an over the
• 44:38
  shoulder in a good position setting where the weight is on
• 44:42
  the inner thighs and not on the knees.
• 44:44
  The pressure is on the knees and you're just driving over the
• 44:47
  front end. There's Gary Lefue, there's his
• 44:52
  way of riding, which is a little bit different from other riders.
• 44:56
  And then again, going back to height, I, I could, I could
• 45:00
  literally either ride a bull Brazilian style, which a lot of
• 45:04
  Brazilian riders, they like to like pull themselves into their
• 45:08
  rope. So like some people will do
• 45:10
  this. I do this in a sense where they
• 45:13
  pull themselves into the rope and they just hold themselves
• 45:16
  there. Yeah.
• 45:17
  So there is no real, there is no real drive.
• 45:21
  On over. The top over the top with their
• 45:23
  legs or anything like that, that's they're just covering the
• 45:26
  shoulders and holding in position.
• 45:30
  You know, you get blown back, recover the shoulders blown
• 45:33
  back. You know, there's there's so
• 45:35
  many different ways that you can write technically.
• 45:39
  So that's a broad question to ask a writer because it's going
• 45:43
  to depend on the writer. But they had more room, you
• 45:46
  know, or we could do a video next time I show you guys.
• 45:48
  But it just depends on what's more comfortable for the rider
• 45:54
  once they get into the position of riding live bulls.
• 45:57
  What is your? What is your position?
• 46:00
  I like I I'm kind of like a combination because so I, I when
• 46:04
  I got back into riding, I went out and I hung out with Hunter
• 46:07
  Kelly out in San Tan. Great rider.
• 46:10
  His dad is Frank Machine Gun Kelly, 40 years plus some
• 46:13
  buckles guys with amazing people, great family.
• 46:17
  I went out there and worked with him and, you know, we did some
• 46:20
  things where my legs were a little bit further down, you
• 46:23
  know, around just a little bit, I believe.
• 46:26
  And I was, you know, squeezing, you know, and you want to
• 46:29
  squeeze up either way. So you want your knees into him
• 46:32
  and you want to squeeze with your thighs so your butt comes
• 46:34
  up off. You want to be able to naturally
• 46:36
  sit up over him like that. So I, I worked on some movements
• 46:40
  with him and I also, you know, learned some things from other
• 46:44
  guys and, you know, I also kind of combine like what Josh Frost
• 46:49
  does, you know, and what they do with putting the pressure on the
• 46:53
  inner thighs because I like to be right over the shoulders the
• 46:57
  whole time. I don't mind being back a little
• 47:01
  bit because I do have the ability to get back.
• 47:06
  Or you can learn how to get back because there's ways like if you
• 47:09
  get blown back or you're behind, they some they call a back door
• 47:14
  move where you kind of lay back in that direction and kind of
• 47:17
  roll yourself up over the bull. It's, you know, but you know,
• 47:22
  those are higher level moves for guys.
• 47:24
  But for me, it's just, it's just about recovering center on the
• 47:29
  shoulders and then staying, keeping my back straight.
• 47:33
  I'm partially over the front end and just trying to square up
• 47:38
  with him every time. Yeah.
• 47:41
  What about you? Are you gonna ride?
• 47:43
  No. Well, it's funny, like I wish I
• 47:46
  could. So I had my shoulder replaced
• 47:49
  about a year and a half ago and my doctor was like don't do it.
• 47:51
  We'll ride. We use the other arm.
• 47:53
  It's not that, it's if I land on it is the problem.
• 47:56
  Yeah. We'll put you on.
• 47:58
  We'll bring you and put you on, honey.
• 48:00
  I just I just. I would totally jump on.
• 48:02
  Trust me I would. I mean, he saw me go over the
• 48:04
  front of the horse at a dead Sprint.
• 48:05
  So it's not like I'm worried about hitting the ground.
• 48:09
  But like, when you asked about, like, specific writing
• 48:11
  positions, I think about your baseball career.
• 48:13
  Yeah, Right. And that's like asking a hitter,
• 48:15
  like, what's the right batting stance?
• 48:18
  It literally is different for all of us.
• 48:21
  And then and then you have the the progression of the sports.
• 48:26
  So back in when the PBR was created in back in 1994 when
• 48:31
  it's established, I believe it's 1994 when it's established.
• 48:36
  Back then the bulls bucked different than they do nowadays.
• 48:41
  Nowadays they've got more. The bread.
• 48:43
  Yeah, yeah, bread and and they were bred back then and people
• 48:47
  and again, going back to what people think about like how
• 48:50
  bulls are took care of, I'll tell you what, there are bulls
• 48:52
  that are better taken care of than me.
• 48:54
  Oh, for. Sure, I promise you, 100.
• 48:56
  Percent. There are there are millions of
• 48:59
  bulls out there that are taking way better care than any single
• 49:03
  person on this earth, even people who think they're kings
• 49:06
  and other countries and the president like these bulls are
• 49:10
  loved. They're treated like family.
• 49:13
  They're fed really well. They're put on workout programs.
• 49:18
  And again, like you said, they're bred to do this.
• 49:20
  They're not. And it's not like they're bred
• 49:23
  like they're forced to do it. No, they, they come from a
• 49:26
  certain offspring. So we'll say Bushwhacker has
• 49:30
  bulls that you know, our offsprings from him, Rupa, all
• 49:34
  the little Yellow Jacket. There's a bunch of bulls out
• 49:40
  there. Red Rock, House Bunch, Red Rock.
• 49:41
  I don't know if you guys remember Red Rock, Lane Frost.
• 49:44
  You know, there's a bunch of bulls that are from the past
• 49:49
  that back in that time were outstanding bulls, but nowadays
• 49:54
  would be average bulls. Right.
• 49:56
  It's just a pedigree, right? It's a pedigree.
• 49:58
  Exactly. So the pedigree of the bowl has
• 50:02
  changed over time. And that's the same thing with
• 50:05
  other sports, like in baseball. And that's why I wanted to say,
• 50:09
  you know, no, no hurt, no hard feelings to baseball players out
• 50:12
  there or football players or basketball players about how the
• 50:15
  rules have changed over time from when I was a young kid.
• 50:19
  So now it's just that the progression of the sport, the
• 50:22
  athletes move in such a higher pace.
• 50:24
  Yeah, dude, I tried. I tried to go back after the
• 50:28
  Marine Corps. I tried.
• 50:29
  I went and I played play with the Black Sox for a whole month
• 50:32
  out in Florida with Joe Torre and the Black Sox out there.
• 50:36
  They're a traveling baseball team that help young athletes,
• 50:39
  baseball players in particular, who are, who want a shot and are
• 50:42
  willing to pay that money and spend that time.
• 50:44
  You know, I went out there and I got actually, I almost got a
• 50:46
  shot with the Oakland A's and the Miami doll, not the
• 50:49
  Dolphins, but the Marlins. Yeah, I almost got a shot.
• 50:52
  Damn. I almost got a shot with both of
• 50:54
  them when I was out there. And I was only out there for two
• 50:56
  weeks. And he kept trying to tell me.
• 50:59
  And I, you know, I wish I had the ability, but at the time I
• 51:02
  had a one, had my first child at the time.
• 51:05
  And I wish I would have had more money on the side for that, but
• 51:09
  he was like, I just need you to stay out here for two more
• 51:11
  weeks. And I wish I could have, if I
• 51:13
  could have, you know, who knows where I would have been?
• 51:16
  But he those people wanted to see me play more.
• 51:19
  They like me. They like the way I hit and
• 51:22
  stuff like that. And The thing is, I went to I
• 51:24
  went to optimal power performance.
• 51:26
  I'm going to throw it out there. AJ Arroyo, he he changed my
• 51:31
  swing. You know, I was a push swinger.
• 51:33
  And and nowadays, if you're a push swinger in baseball and
• 51:36
  you're a kid and you're hearing this right now, stop pushing
• 51:40
  because pushing is only going to slow you down.
• 51:42
  You got to snap, you got to learn the HPHLP swing, high
• 51:46
  level performance swing. You got to snap that barrel, get
• 51:48
  it in the zone early. If you want to hit home runs
• 51:50
  like Aaron Judge and them Mike Trout and all those guys.
• 51:54
  Darren, you know, Dan Slow not it's bull riding, freaking the
• 51:59
  first baseman. Bellinger, you know, I don't
• 52:01
  know where he's not in. Don't, don't look at me.
• 52:04
  I don't know nothing about baseball.
• 52:07
  Do you know anything about any other sport?
• 52:09
  Oh yeah, What sport? Oh yeah, tennis.
• 52:13
  He's a big pickleball. Guy, there we go.
• 52:15
  Yeah, I know. But yeah.
• 52:18
  That's cool, man, didn't you? You also did a little bit of
• 52:22
  cage fighting. Cage fighting.
• 52:23
  Yeah, MMA. Yeah, I did MMA while I was in
• 52:26
  the Marine Corps for about 3-4 years.
• 52:29
  When I got out, I fought for a little bit.
• 52:32
  I actually first started training like live MMA under a
• 52:38
  staff Sergeant of mine. And, you know, he gave me the
• 52:42
  nickname Little Spartan. I was.
• 52:46
  I've always been a tough son of a gun, you know, always can take
• 52:51
  a hit, you know, most of the time.
• 52:54
  You know, there's definitely times where I've been rocked in
• 52:56
  life, but I've never truly been knocked out in the cage, which
• 53:00
  is nice. And and he gave me that nickname
• 53:05
  because even if you were bigger than me, dude, I brought you.
• 53:07
  I brought the fight to you. And that's just who I always
• 53:10
  have been. And that's another reason, you
• 53:12
  know, Marine Corps and even, like, bull riding, like, I'll
• 53:17
  bring the fight to you. I'm not afraid to bring the
• 53:20
  fight because why be afraid? Yeah.
• 53:22
  Why? So that when I get to be 60
• 53:24
  years old, I'm looking back, I could have done that if I wish,
• 53:28
  I wish I did that. I'm not going to be wishing.
• 53:31
  I'm not going to make a. Wish man, I'm not.
• 53:32
  Going to make, you know, not to cut them out, but or anything
• 53:36
  talk down. But I'm not a make a wish kid.
• 53:38
  You know, I'm going to, I'm going to do it.
• 53:41
  You know, even even though like if I have like issues with, you
• 53:44
  know, getting out of bed sometimes, you know, I'd rather
• 53:48
  beat myself up living the life I want to live.
• 53:52
  And instead of living life everybody else wants to do it.
• 53:54
  Because you know, you're going to hate yourself.
• 53:56
  I promise you, you're going to, you're going to look back and
• 53:59
  you're going to be like, what was I thinking, right?
• 54:02
  Well, you can't take safety with you, right?
• 54:04
  Like you want to, you can take. Nobody's going to tell stories.
• 54:07
  If they got nothing, they even lived.
• 54:09
  Exactly. Yeah, if you're somebody that
• 54:11
  wants to be remembered, you know you're going to have to do
• 54:15
  something that's rememberable. No, it's going to have to make.
• 54:19
  You just got to get out there and do.
• 54:20
  It and you know you. Can't sit there and watch TV and
• 54:22
  watch other people do it, right, Exactly right.
• 54:24
  Like you can't watch YouTube videos of bull riders and be
• 54:26
  like, man, I want to do that or I wish I could have done that.
• 54:31
  It's like you're the type that just fuck it, Like I want to go
• 54:34
  do that. I'm going to go do it.
• 54:35
  Yeah, and you should just do it like, like that's the thing, you
• 54:38
  know. You know, it's kind of a
• 54:41
  mainstream saying, but just like Nike says, just do it.
• 54:44
  Just do it because really you don't know.
• 54:47
  In the end, you don't know. You know, you have the past,
• 54:50
  present and future. The past is the past.
• 54:52
  You can't change it in the future.
• 54:54
  You don't know what's there. All you have really is the
• 54:56
  present, and you take advantage of that.
• 55:00
  I kind of have that mentality of wanting to start this this
• 55:03
  podcast because, you know, a little bit of me was like, you
• 55:08
  know, I can't, I can't do that shit.
• 55:10
  You know, I can't talk to people.
• 55:12
  I mean, I can, right? But it's like, well, what if
• 55:15
  people think I'm dumb? Well fuck them.
• 55:18
  Fuck, you know, I just said fuck them and just hey.
• 55:20
  I know, let's. Just do them.
• 55:20
  Let's just do it. You know, you got to get over
• 55:23
  that. Yeah.
• 55:23
  You know you joined the military.
• 55:26
  That's true. So you got to remember there's a
• 55:27
  little bit of stupid in there that's.
• 55:29
  True. Oh, I have a lot of stupid in
• 55:32
  there. I got a lot of stupid.
• 55:33
  There's, you know, to want to put your life on the line and
• 55:37
  basically sign a piece of paperwork that says you have no
• 55:41
  more rights. You know, you can't really.
• 55:44
  You're voting. Don't think about it.
• 55:46
  You're done. You're done.
• 55:47
  You're not voting. Here's four years.
• 55:49
  Here's four years of you're going to do exactly what we say
• 55:51
  or we're going to throw you in prison.
• 55:53
  So if you're willing to, because they don't, they don't hold you
• 55:57
  at gunpoint. No, and they don't stand over
• 56:00
  you. That's all volunteer.
• 56:01
  It's all. Volunteer and most of the time
• 56:03
  when they hand you, I know when they did mine, they hand you the
• 56:06
  paperwork. They leave the room.
• 56:08
  Sometimes they leave the room where they, they make up like
• 56:11
  the guttering Sergeant and the Lieutenant they've had like AI
• 56:14
  think I remember they, they said that they would get a drink of
• 56:16
  water real quick. They left me in the room to read
• 56:18
  the paperwork, you know, to make the choice myself.
• 56:21
  And when you go into depths, which is the program that they
• 56:25
  do where they evaluate, I'm not going to say too much, but they
• 56:29
  evaluate the person coming in for both.
• 56:34
  Physical, Physical. Yeah, well, they also
• 56:36
  interrogate you. I got a story.
• 56:38
  For that 10, they interrogate you like though, though, they'll
• 56:42
  ask you questions and they'll they'll make sure that you're
• 56:45
  willing to stand with the answers that you've provided on
• 56:49
  paper. And I'll be honest, I was in
• 56:52
  that room and that Sergeant made me feel like I was guilty.
• 56:54
  And I knew it wasn't like I knew I didn't do anything.
• 56:58
  I didn't do anything. Would you ever recommend the
• 57:03
  Marines to your son? Yes, yes.
• 57:06
  But I, I, I, I partially, I'm impartial, partially, you know,
• 57:14
  kind of like on both sides of the fence with I believe we
• 57:18
  should have some sort of program where at least, you know,
• 57:24
  fucking I like this. But, you know, every person who
• 57:27
  graduates high school should have some sort of monthly
• 57:30
  training of some sort of survival, like military survival
• 57:34
  training. Like there should be something
• 57:38
  that better prepares these people to pay attention to life.
• 57:41
  Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a fact.
• 57:42
  You know what I mean? Because like the there's a total
• 57:47
  page flip when it comes to guys who went to the military and
• 57:51
  they come back the responsibility, most of the most
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  guys, the responsibility they have built into them, the
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  dedication to get shit done and stuff like that.
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  Those are all things these people can learn, you know, in a
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  summer program and stuff too. That doesn't have to be so
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  intense, you know? Yeah, True.
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  But yeah, Yeah, my wife might hate that.
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  But if he wanted to, yes. If he wanted to, yeah.
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  I, you know, I if, he said. Dad, I want to join the
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  military. Would you say Marines or would
• 58:20
  you say just go look at your options?
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  I mean, really, there's nothing better than the Marines.
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  We do it all land, air and sea like we, we do it all.
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  We, we fight air, land and sea. You can be a pilot in the
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  Marines. You can be a mechanic in the
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  Marines. You can be a truck driver in the
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  Marines. You can be a Rifleman,
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  mortarman. You can be a machine gunner.
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  You can, you can fly freaking Kiwi helicopters.
• 58:47
  You can fly Cobra helicopters. You can do whatever.
• 58:51
  You can literally do whatever. You can be a cook in the Marine
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  Corps. Like if you wanted to be a chef,
• 58:57
  like you want to go look, if there's a kid out there that
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  wants to be a chef, like this is what you want to do and you want
• 59:03
  to get away and you want to see the world at the same time and
• 59:06
  you don't want to pay for school.
• 59:08
  Go to the Navy. Go to the Marine Corps.
• 59:11
  Go to the Marine Corps. Do not go to the go to the Navy.
• 59:14
  Do not go to the Navy. Go to the Marine Corps.
• 59:16
  Be a chef. A lot of those guys get put on
• 59:19
  different units and stuff like that after their first couple
• 59:22
  years and they get to go and cook in different places.
• 59:27
  I knew I met AI, met a chef in 29 Palms that got to go and cook
• 59:32
  for the president. Oh wow.
• 59:34
  Yeah, very. Cool.
• 59:35
  So like he was part of the the embassy program or the embassy
• 59:43
  platoon I guess. I don't know what they call it
• 59:45
  nowadays. I don't remember.
• 59:47
  But he was part of the embassy there in DC and he got to cook
• 59:51
  for the president, stuff like that somehow.
• 59:52
  So like, there's there's so many opportunities in the Marines.
• 59:57
  I'm not saying it's for everybody.
• 59:59
  Yeah, I promise you it's not for everybody because you first have
• 1:00:02
  to make it through boot camp. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  And it is no joke. Yeah, I know, I know that.
• 1:00:07
  That it is. The Marine?
• 1:00:08
  So were you in Pendleton then? I was where you at?
• 1:00:11
  No, we were. It's not Pendleton, It's MCRD,
• 1:00:15
  the Marine Corps is it or in? California, yes.
• 1:00:18
  OK. So because don't they have two?
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, we have two, yes. And if you're on the east side
• 1:00:25
  of the midline of the United States, I can't remember what
• 1:00:28
  it's called. If it's like half of Texas or
• 1:00:31
  the other side of Texas, on is you go.
• 1:00:34
  If you're East Coast Marine, you go over to Parris Island.
• 1:00:37
  If you're a West Coast Marine, you go to MCRD.
• 1:00:39
  OK, now they call MCRD Hollywood Marines because there used to be
• 1:00:45
  a thing. I don't know if they still do
• 1:00:47
  it. It didn't freaking happen for me
• 1:00:49
  that they would take the Marines to a baseball game.
• 1:00:53
  I didn't go to no fucking baseball.
• 1:00:54
  Game. Yeah, me neither.
• 1:00:55
  I got fucking thrashed. I didn't go.
• 1:00:59
  You probably went but you forgot.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah, I do PTSD, dude. OK, so Marines baseball, yes.
• 1:01:08
  Cage fighting, yes. Bull riding currently current.
• 1:01:12
  Current bull riding. Yep, recovering.
• 1:01:14
  Recovering. Yeah, blew out my knee.
• 1:01:17
  OK, that, that's. When was the last time you rode?
• 1:01:22
  I rode in the 8 seconds rodeo. Because I Remember Me and you
• 1:01:26
  were talking about you were going to come out here to the Rs
• 1:01:29
  rodeo. Yeah, so I was riding in the Rs
• 1:01:31
  rodeo circuits, all three of them.
• 1:01:33
  OK. And then in January on a bull
• 1:01:36
  called No Res, he comes out and goes away from my hand and my
• 1:01:41
  knee gives out. I hit the I sublux my knee and
• 1:01:45
  then when I hit the ground, it went back into place.
• 1:01:47
  So I I had problems with holding on with this leg for like a
• 1:01:53
  whole two months, but I had to finish the series.
• 1:01:55
  I ended up winning the Corona Ranch series.
• 1:01:58
  So I won the Corona Ranch series.
• 1:02:01
  Thank you, man, Thank you. But then good old Bubba Night.
• 1:02:05
  He beat me in the bigger series. I mean you should have seen that
• 1:02:09
  buckle. That kid guy thing was
• 1:02:12
  beautiful. Was it like the Dale Brisby
• 1:02:13
  Buckle or? No, it wasn't that big, but it
• 1:02:15
  was shiny. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Oh, it was shiny, Yeah. If you were in the, you know, if
• 1:02:19
  you go to Desert Diamonds or Country Bar and he was standing
• 1:02:22
  there, you'd see it across the dance floor shining off,
• 1:02:24
  claiming out there. Oh yeah, dude.
• 1:02:26
  That would have been a nice one to wear.
• 1:02:27
  What do you? What is your job now?
• 1:02:29
  What is your 9? Do you work 9 to 5?
• 1:02:32
  Like what are you doing now? So I was doing sports training,
• 1:02:36
  OK. I was working with high school
• 1:02:38
  athletes and some college athletes, stuff like that for a
• 1:02:40
  little while, but now I'm going to be doing some just regular
• 1:02:44
  general maintenance work for Greenfield Junior High in Mesa.
• 1:02:49
  I'm just going to be hanging out, you know, creating some
• 1:02:53
  money, revenue, looking to buy my own Bulls and get my own land
• 1:02:58
  and stuff. Like, there you go.
• 1:02:59
  So I can have my own practice pen because, you know, it gets
• 1:03:03
  expensive. Yeah, it's not cheap.
• 1:03:05
  It's not cheap to ride. Well, just the feed that to feed
• 1:03:09
  them, right? I mean, these are big animals.
• 1:03:10
  Yeah. I mean some, some of them it's
• 1:03:12
  cost you 5000 a month just to feed them, just to feed them.
• 1:03:17
  So you did bring the shirt? Yes, that's my, that's my
• 1:03:20
  strength condition company Wayne's muscle.
• 1:03:25
  Yes, Sir. Up in there.
• 1:03:26
  Yes, Sir. Wayne's muscle.
• 1:03:29
  So I just started this, just launched this.
• 1:03:32
  I've got a few clients right now.
• 1:03:34
  You know, I, I got a broad range.
• 1:03:37
  I've been doing personal training, technically sports
• 1:03:39
  based training, military based training since I was like 2021.
• 1:03:45
  So it's been about 15 years, 1415 years that I've been doing
• 1:03:49
  training for people on a consistent basis.
• 1:03:51
  I've worked in multiple different gyms and stuff like
• 1:03:54
  that. Help people with like hip
• 1:03:55
  replacements, knee replacements, all kinds of different things.
• 1:03:58
  I helped train a lady to walk the Grand Canyon.
• 1:04:01
  She was like 78. Damn, wow.
• 1:04:03
  She walked the Grand Canyon. And I've helped some athletes,
• 1:04:07
  you know, overcome fears and stuff like that.
• 1:04:08
  You know, the typical coach thing, the thing that makes you
• 1:04:11
  proud to be part of what you do and things like that.
• 1:04:14
  So I've had a great experience with that.
• 1:04:16
  So I decided to just kind of like open it up on the side.
• 1:04:19
  Right now it's, you know, small business type, but I want to
• 1:04:22
  open my own private facility here in the next coming years,
• 1:04:27
  you know, and just have it open for athletes and regular people,
• 1:04:31
  stuff like that. So if there was anybody that was
• 1:04:33
  listening today and they wanted to be part of that or have you
• 1:04:37
  trained them, how would they go about getting in contact with
• 1:04:39
  you? So you can either reach out to
• 1:04:41
  me on Instagram or you know, you can reach out to me on Facebook.
• 1:04:44
  Wayne's muscle is, is my knockout slogan for it.
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  It's Wayne's under score muscle, I believe for the tag.
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  Or you can reach out to me via, I believe I have my a post on my
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  Facebook and Instagram where it has like my phone number, stuff
• 1:05:03
  like that, e-mail and stuff like that.
• 1:05:06
  But really, you know, right now with the way that we're, what
• 1:05:11
  I'm trying to get this to work out is you, you really have to
• 1:05:15
  be willing and dedicated to do it because you're going to have
• 1:05:18
  to come to me. Yeah, yeah, you're going to have
• 1:05:20
  to come to my facility and work in my facility because I used to
• 1:05:26
  do the travel stuff and that's, that can be a lot, a lot of
• 1:05:29
  extra stuff. So I used to, I used to actually
• 1:05:31
  do travel training and I do do some travel training for like
• 1:05:37
  even like for like bull riders. But you know, they have to pay
• 1:05:40
  extra fees for travelling for me to travel out there.
• 1:05:44
  But I do like I, I build barrels too.
• 1:05:47
  So part of Wayne's muscles is I build stationary barrels for
• 1:05:50
  bull riders. OK, so I bring out, I'll bring
• 1:05:54
  out one of my barrels that I have built and you know, we work
• 1:05:57
  on the barrel and stuff like that and things like that.
• 1:05:59
  So I, I kind of got this really broad base of education.
• 1:06:05
  I'm working on finishing my masters in sports, exercise
• 1:06:07
  science and human development. I've got my bachelor's in
• 1:06:10
  exercise science from GCU. So, you know, it's kind of
• 1:06:15
  always just been the love of my life really, if you want to put
• 1:06:20
  it that way. If there's one thing I could do
• 1:06:22
  for the rest of my life, I would do for the rest of my life is
• 1:06:25
  help people get better. Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Stay physical fit because most people don't understand that if
• 1:06:30
  you just stay consistent, it doesn't matter how much weight
• 1:06:33
  you move, doesn't matter how fast you move it, as long as you
• 1:06:37
  stay consistent, you will create muscle growth.
• 1:06:40
  And on top of that, you'd be absolutely astonished among how
• 1:06:45
  much better you feel if you work out 30 minutes a day or so every
• 1:06:50
  single day. What?
• 1:06:53
  You hearing this I. Blocked it out.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah, I know, I know he blocked it out a long time ago.
• 1:06:58
  But it's like you got to stay active.
• 1:07:01
  Body in motion tends to stay in motion.
• 1:07:03
  Yeah. Amen.
• 1:07:04
  I know I work outside. I'm a lineman.
• 1:07:08
  It's not enough. Oh, it's enough.
• 1:07:09
  We can get into this, but it's not enough.
• 1:07:11
  It's No, it's not. I didn't get these forearms from
• 1:07:14
  just. You know, you might have good
• 1:07:16
  forearms, but you like black bicep strength, so it's sometime
• 1:07:20
  it's if you're. I got that.
• 1:07:22
  If I got strain, I got that old mass strength.
• 1:07:24
  Right now he's. Got the Navy strength, yeah.
• 1:07:26
  Which very good at squeezing. That's right.
• 1:07:29
  Stop. Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah. So my son, he rides, right.
• 1:07:34
  OK. I told you all that there's
• 1:07:37
  actually like a group of dads that I've been talking to out
• 1:07:40
  here that been going to Dylan's and doing the Rs rodeo and stuff
• 1:07:45
  and we've all kind of talked and it's like there's nothing on the
• 1:07:49
  West side that. For these kids.
• 1:07:51
  For these kids to practice, to get the hang of it, because I
• 1:07:57
  want to see my son succeed. He he freaking loves this shit.
• 1:08:01
  He is always, always on YouTube. He throws on his own little bull
• 1:08:05
  riding things with the little bull riding toys.
• 1:08:08
  You know, like he's like he's like dialed into this stuff,
• 1:08:11
  right. But we just on on on the West
• 1:08:14
  side. We don't have anything over
• 1:08:16
  here. No, not really.
• 1:08:17
  And I've and I've talked to other dads and they said that
• 1:08:20
  there's plenty of stuff on the East Side, but there's nothing
• 1:08:23
  over here. Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  And, and The thing is also there are some like smaller ranchers
• 1:08:29
  on the West side, but like most of those guys over here are like
• 1:08:33
  Rs rodeo guys who their bulls buck in, you know, certain areas
• 1:08:38
  and they only buck for for the season.
• 1:08:41
  Yeah, well, they're also using them to train their kids.
• 1:08:44
  Exactly, exactly. They're not.
• 1:08:47
  And So what we need to do then is we need to get a way to
• 1:08:51
  create an area to train the riders out here.
• 1:08:54
  You know, we need to find, you know, and when you think about
• 1:08:59
  it, it can be it can be challenging just because of you
• 1:09:03
  have to have a place where not only you can buck bulls that you
• 1:09:09
  can also work, you know, stationary work with the kid and
• 1:09:12
  stuff like that. It's got you gotta have, you
• 1:09:15
  gotta have it, you gotta have the space.
• 1:09:17
  So that already has his mind going.
• 1:09:19
  He's the side of all this stuff. Good.
• 1:09:22
  So if you guys need help with your business, don't be afraid
• 1:09:25
  to ask Nate. Don't be afraid.
• 1:09:27
  Don't be afraid to ask for help. Exactly.
• 1:09:30
  You know that that's another thing most people can't be
• 1:09:32
  afraid to do. You got to ask for help, but I
• 1:09:34
  think. You need it, you know, and
• 1:09:35
  you're talking about that, right?
• 1:09:36
  And it's just a missed opportunity in the West Valley
• 1:09:39
  for, for that. And, and we talk a lot about the
• 1:09:41
  next generation of bull riders. And if they're not given the
• 1:09:44
  opportunities to learn and to develop their skills, eventually
• 1:09:48
  they'll just lose the passion for it.
• 1:09:50
  And once the passions gone, now what, right?
• 1:09:53
  Where does the next the next, you know, changing in the guard
• 1:09:56
  come from? You think about you're not that
• 1:09:58
  old, you know what I mean? And then you look at Drake.
• 1:10:00
  We talk about him all the time, right?
• 1:10:02
  Is that he's got this passion for bucking bulls and watches
• 1:10:05
  and, and and learns via, you know, YouTube.
• 1:10:09
  But it would be great to have an opportunity to create a space
• 1:10:11
  for these kids to come out and say, listen, I really want to
• 1:10:14
  learn this, right? So I don't know.
• 1:10:16
  I was hitting coach for a while. That was an easy thing for me to
• 1:10:18
  do is find a space. And I just go out and work with
• 1:10:20
  kids that were passionate about. I knew it was Zeke, right?
• 1:10:22
  Yeah. But we need to figure out a way
• 1:10:25
  to create a space for somebody like yourself to to do something
• 1:10:30
  that can create the next generation of bull rider.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so.
• 1:10:35
  That may be something that we all talk about off air, but I
• 1:10:37
  think it's it's something that that there's opportunities
• 1:10:40
  there. I mean, you know, we talked to
• 1:10:42
  Trev about it all the time and it would be great to have
• 1:10:44
  different voices for different for, for different levels.
• 1:10:48
  But you think about just there, there's just so much missed
• 1:10:52
  opportunities. You know, you look at your your
• 1:10:54
  sports training stuff. I got athletes for kids right
• 1:10:58
  now. They're 19 and 20 years old.
• 1:11:00
  But like, I never thought as they were growing up.
• 1:11:03
  I mean, you and I didn't grow up with a sports trainer, right?
• 1:11:06
  Imagine where we would have been had we had that.
• 1:11:08
  Let me tell you something my I used to tell these kids because
• 1:11:11
  I used to be a athletes performance enhancement in Mesa.
• 1:11:14
  I used to tell these kids down there at April said you guys do
• 1:11:17
  not know how good you have it like most kids, you know.
• 1:11:20
  And The thing is, is that unfortunately that's that's a a
• 1:11:25
  generational curse that doesn't just fall over one group of
• 1:11:29
  individuals. It's not it's not picked by
• 1:11:31
  class, ethnicity or anything like that.
• 1:11:34
  Almost all kids don't understand some of the things that they
• 1:11:37
  have available to them today. What?
• 1:11:39
  Do you think about the recruiting?
• 1:11:40
  I mean nowadays, like when I was going through it, like I had to
• 1:11:43
  make film, right and had it actually had to send stuff out.
• 1:11:47
  I'm sure you did the same thing. But you look at kids nowadays,
• 1:11:49
  we talk about Kayla like, you know, now these these colleges
• 1:11:52
  are recruiting via Zoom in videos that they're watching.
• 1:11:57
  They're not even at the. Location there's now there are
• 1:12:01
  websites that they don't even have to come out and watch you.
• 1:12:05
  There are websites that athletes create profiles.
• 1:12:08
  I used to have a profile like that on one of those other sites
• 1:12:11
  where they would watch game footage of you.
• 1:12:13
  They don't even come and watch you.
• 1:12:14
  Ncsa.com, I mean, you build a profile on there, you upload
• 1:12:17
  your videos, and the crazy part is they want to see your work
• 1:12:20
  ethic. They don't.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah, that's what it is, 100%. This.
• 1:12:23
  That's all. That's what it's about.
• 1:12:25
  Yeah. It's about how much are you
• 1:12:26
  worth to my program, Correct. Are you, do you have the effort?
• 1:12:31
  Do you bring the work? Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  If you bring the work and you, you, you're worth something.
• 1:12:36
  That's all that they care about nowadays when it comes to that
• 1:12:39
  stuff. Especially unfortunately for
• 1:12:41
  recruiting nowadays, there's so much that goes into it between
• 1:12:46
  athletic performance, mental preparation, diet habits.
• 1:12:52
  They contact your family, they contact your work, they contact
• 1:12:56
  your, they reach out to your grandmas, your grand, you know
• 1:12:59
  your cousins. You know, when you're a high
• 1:13:02
  profile athlete and you are looking at being like a top 100
• 1:13:07
  athlete in, in your sport, whether it be baseball,
• 1:13:11
  football, soccer, and you're competing against billions.
• 1:13:18
  We're not talking about, you know, just a few kids down the
• 1:13:20
  street. You're competing with billions
• 1:13:24
  of kids around not only the United States, but, you know, I
• 1:13:27
  mean, with Trump's new thing, you know, we might not have any
• 1:13:30
  more international students, but you know, it you're, you're
• 1:13:34
  competing with a lot of kids that are your age, that are
• 1:13:38
  fresh, that have talent and, and are, are, are wanting to be at
• 1:13:46
  the next level. It's, it's not easy and, and
• 1:13:49
  it's not, it's not something to be taken lightly.
• 1:13:53
  I mean, these kids have so much more opportunity to be seen.
• 1:13:56
  I mean, I, I still the only like real footage I have of me
• 1:14:01
  playing football in high school is a highlight film.
• 1:14:05
  And it's a few clips of me tackling a few guys and then
• 1:14:09
  throwing a few footballs when I plan to play backup QB.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Yeah, You know what I mean? Like.
• 1:14:15
  I have some film on me playing football.
• 1:14:18
  Yeah, I was on the sideline just like, yeah, go get them boys.
• 1:14:22
  You had all the Gatorade carrying the Gatorade down the
• 1:14:26
  sideline? Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  My sophomore year, I never came off the field.
• 1:14:30
  Really. Yeah, I was.
• 1:14:33
  I was on kickoff, kickoff return, punt, punt return.
• 1:14:36
  I was. Unfortunately, I had to be our
• 1:14:38
  center. Yeah, I was our center of my
• 1:14:41
  sophomore year. The next year, we actually got a
• 1:14:43
  few kids because, you know, that is that also that people, you
• 1:14:46
  know, we always talk about it and it'll keep doing it year in
• 1:14:49
  a generation, generation. Sometimes in some generation,
• 1:14:52
  kids are bigger than others. Oh yeah.
• 1:14:54
  And Junior, yeah, Junior's head is almost is completely almost
• 1:14:59
  over that counter, and he's only 5.
• 1:15:01
  Golly. You're right, right?
• 1:15:03
  You know, because like you, I'm 55 S you look at the way that
• 1:15:08
  these kids are raised nowadays is they're almost like groomed
• 1:15:11
  for certain sports based on how their growth methods are or
• 1:15:15
  whatever it may be. And, you know, that's, that's a
• 1:15:17
  that also comes off that mostly comes off of genetics.
• 1:15:21
  So, yeah, you know, depending on where your, your parents
• 1:15:25
  genetically, you know, all the, there's, there's a bunch of
• 1:15:30
  other things that go into it, you know, diet.
• 1:15:32
  Food like that. And stuff like that, if you come
• 1:15:35
  from a an individual, like most athletes are going to produce
• 1:15:41
  athletes, but that's only because one, they eat in a way
• 1:15:47
  that lets their DNA structure in a stronger format to reproduce a
• 1:15:55
  strong seed. And then on top of that, most
• 1:15:58
  athletes, you know, they're not they're not with Miss Rachel
• 1:16:02
  down the street. You know, they're they're with
• 1:16:04
  models or they're with former athletes like my wife used to
• 1:16:09
  play soccer. So like most athletes are going
• 1:16:12
  to find another athlete or somebody that can relate to
• 1:16:16
  that. There is the opposite of trach
• 1:16:18
  syndrome where you know, you got some athletes and with these
• 1:16:21
  people said, you know, they shouldn't be with, but you know,
• 1:16:25
  there's there's you know, when you put all that together, if
• 1:16:29
  you kind of like almost skips a generation from time to time.
• 1:16:33
  And then you know, with that you it makes it harder to field
• 1:16:40
  athletes at those lower levels too.
• 1:16:42
  You know, when you think about the opportunities that they have
• 1:16:46
  now, if I was when I was a smaller athlete and I was
• 1:16:51
  playing high school, if I had access to a gym like God, these
• 1:16:56
  kids have nowadays, or the knowledge, because we got to
• 1:16:58
  think about sciences changed. You know, the way the world has
• 1:17:03
  been, is being looked at has changed over the last 20 years.
• 1:17:07
  It's completely changed. Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  There's so many new findings, new studies that are finishing
• 1:17:13
  up because it takes, you know, 10/15/20 years to to actually do
• 1:17:17
  these studies to when you finish them, they have some sort of
• 1:17:22
  backing to them or stand to them.
• 1:17:24
  If you, you know, I'll take. I don't care like the vaccine
• 1:17:30
  shit like you can't, you can't tell me that you created a
• 1:17:33
  vaccine in six months, right? Like that's a like we're
• 1:17:36
  military. That's not how that works.
• 1:17:38
  No, that it takes time. That's planned out a lot of
• 1:17:42
  it's. Got to be tested.
• 1:17:43
  It's got to be tested and tested and tested for years.
• 1:17:47
  And, you know, and, and then anyway, CDC and things like
• 1:17:51
  that, they have regulations on testing that you have to test it
• 1:17:56
  for this amount of years and then it goes to the next level,
• 1:17:59
  then you test it there and then it goes to the next level.
• 1:18:01
  Because I looked into creating, you know, supplements and then
• 1:18:04
  also as a strength condition coach, when people ask me about
• 1:18:06
  supplements and stuff like that, I, I have to know what I'm
• 1:18:09
  talking. About, sure.
• 1:18:10
  Sure. If you don't know what you're
• 1:18:11
  talking about, please don't. Yeah, don't recommend.
• 1:18:13
  It don't recommend it. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:15
  If you've seen it on TikTok, stop.
• 1:18:17
  Yeah, please stop. Yeah, call Wayne's muscles.
• 1:18:21
  Yeah, right. Don't don't, don't follow all
• 1:18:24
  those TikTok people. Make sure you do back checking
• 1:18:27
  on who people are before you jump off the deep end.
• 1:18:30
  If you go to TikTok, just go to Instagram and make sure it backs
• 1:18:33
  up, right? Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah, yeah, that's, no, you are like Google Scholar, you know,
• 1:18:39
  like. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Look that like make sure and then also people got to remember
• 1:18:45
  that when you're talking about certain in taking minerals or
• 1:18:52
  taking like a supplementation or something like that, it's better
• 1:18:54
  to go get a blood work. Sure.
• 1:18:56
  Before, make sure you look and see what you need and what you
• 1:19:00
  don't need because your body could be producing enough
• 1:19:03
  protein but you don't have enough magnesium or KK2 in your
• 1:19:07
  system to get those molecules. To.
• 1:19:10
  You know, be absorbed properly and they need to build muscle
• 1:19:13
  and stuff like that. Also, you know, like if you want
• 1:19:18
  to like take creatine, you know, there's things that you have to
• 1:19:21
  do, you have to drink water, right, Because, you know,
• 1:19:24
  creatine it make you sick. You literally could dehydrate
• 1:19:29
  because creatine sucks water out of the body and puts it in the
• 1:19:32
  muscles. So it's, it's going to dehydrate
• 1:19:35
  you in a way. So you have to drink extra
• 1:19:37
  water. You know, think there's there's
• 1:19:38
  always something that goes with what you're doing, unless you're
• 1:19:42
  eating like a straight like I usually mostly eat a carnivore
• 1:19:46
  diet and I only eat, I kind of go off of what the Bible says.
• 1:19:49
  I only eat mostly split hoove animals.
• 1:19:52
  So elk, deer, beef, lamb, those are usually my choice in what I
• 1:19:58
  eat. And I mean you get all non
• 1:20:02
  essential amino acids from these meats.
• 1:20:04
  And when you're getting all nine essential amino acids, you're
• 1:20:07
  hitting your body weight or your ideal body weight in grams of
• 1:20:10
  protein. Do you do?
• 1:20:11
  A complete carnivore or do you add like vegetables, fruits in
• 1:20:14
  there? I love.
• 1:20:15
  Watermelon. OK, Watermelon is your friend.
• 1:20:17
  Watermelon is kind of like the forever life fruit.
• 1:20:22
  Yeah, like it literally. Or if it's good, is it a
• 1:20:25
  vegetable or a fruit? I can't remember.
• 1:20:26
  Something. It's a fruit because it's seeds.
• 1:20:28
  It's fruit. Well, what corn is a?
• 1:20:32
  Cucumber's got seeds. And it's a vegetable.
• 1:20:34
  Oh, really? Yeah, squash.
• 1:20:36
  If he doesn't have seeds, it's not real.
• 1:20:38
  Don't eat it. Don't buy it.
• 1:20:40
  Seedless grapes. It's manufactured by man.
• 1:20:42
  Really. Yeah, it's not real.
• 1:20:45
  OK. Did did that?
• 1:20:47
  Did apples have seeds? Yeah, they do.
• 1:20:49
  That's how they got Adam's apples, the seed, that stuff.
• 1:20:53
  I got that. You know what I mean?
• 1:20:54
  I like that. The seed you smell.
• 1:20:56
  Thank you. Marines are pretty smart.
• 1:20:58
  Yeah, sometimes I wouldn't give them all.
• 1:21:01
  Don't give them all that credit. There's some of them out there
• 1:21:03
  that need some help. They're still coloring outside
• 1:21:06
  of the lines. Well, let.
• 1:21:07
  Me ask you this question. Yeah, this is random.
• 1:21:10
  Sure, what's the time you are? Exactly.
• 1:21:13
  Yes. You married a Mexican?
• 1:21:15
  Yes. Is she fully developed in the
• 1:21:19
  Mexican culture? Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Yes, OK. How was it being a white guy
• 1:21:23
  going into that Mexican culture? Easy, easy.
• 1:21:27
  I grew up in it, OK. So.
• 1:21:29
  My stepdad is like Mexican I think he's Mexican and Indian
• 1:21:33
  mix. Because I know there's like
• 1:21:34
  sometimes there's that cultural like, you know, you need to
• 1:21:37
  marry, you know, one of your own, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:42
  But. You know what, to be honest with
• 1:21:44
  you, I I don't think that that works for anybody.
• 1:21:48
  Yeah, I don't think that works for anybody.
• 1:21:50
  I don't care who you are, you can't marry.
• 1:21:53
  You can't freeze. And I totally agree with you,
• 1:21:55
  but again, there's like that older generation that may still
• 1:22:00
  have that mentality. Yeah, but it doesn't make sense
• 1:22:02
  and they can't, you know, and you can't make sense of it
• 1:22:05
  because if you really think about it, love is love.
• 1:22:08
  And people do some of the stupidest things for love.
• 1:22:10
  They they really do they. And, and that's because it's one
• 1:22:15
  of those things that once it gets into your body, once that
• 1:22:19
  feeling, that Aurora, you know, that energy is in your body and
• 1:22:25
  you, you're feeling that with somebody.
• 1:22:27
  It doesn't matter really if they're blue-green, purple, you
• 1:22:30
  know, it doesn't matter who they are or what they look like,
• 1:22:34
  you're going to be in love. That's why you have, that's why
• 1:22:37
  you have, you know, athletes with girls that are, you know,
• 1:22:40
  just regular women, You know, you have, you also have like
• 1:22:45
  girls who are like, you know, models and stuff like that.
• 1:22:49
  Are they're dating these most nerdiest guys in the world?
• 1:22:54
  You know, it's love the the law of attraction, right?
• 1:22:59
  You attract what you don't attract what you externally put
• 1:23:03
  out. You attract what you internally
• 1:23:06
  feel. Yeah.
• 1:23:07
  So like if even though like, like if I I could, most of the
• 1:23:13
  time when I'm standing out and around most people, you know,
• 1:23:16
  they look at me and they'll say, you know, yeah, you look like
• 1:23:19
  you're just tough, cowboy, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:23:21
  Like there's no talk to you, you know.
• 1:23:25
  But you know, that's just because when I stand still, I
• 1:23:27
  guess I have just that kind of face, you know?
• 1:23:30
  But I still get people that come up to me and say hi to me all
• 1:23:32
  the time like they're nice. Yeah, you have that resting
• 1:23:35
  bitch face. Yeah, but I'm not a bitch, so.
• 1:23:38
  Well, I mean, I dude, I I have that same thing, dude.
• 1:23:42
  I mean, I don't know how many times my kids like, are you mad?
• 1:23:44
  I'm like, no, I'm. Just my face.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah, I got I got the resting no fucks face.
• 1:23:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just no fucks given.
• 1:23:52
  Don't fuck with me. Yeah, this is kind of what I
• 1:23:54
  guess I have. But you know, like you just like
• 1:23:58
  love is just something that overtakes a lot of things.
• 1:24:01
  And and when it comes to something like that nowadays in
• 1:24:04
  particular, I don't think that it fits with the culture of the
• 1:24:09
  world because the culture of the world is finally taking on what
• 1:24:14
  it's supposed to be. And it's all is 1.
• 1:24:16
  Yep. And you know, there is there is
• 1:24:19
  a lot going on in the world that fighting against that, but there
• 1:24:24
  is a lot of good in the world that's fighting for them.
• 1:24:27
  The all is 1. We all need to be one.
• 1:24:30
  We are all one. Jesus so.
• 1:24:32
  So let me ask you this kind of as we start to close things up,
• 1:24:35
  if you were able to tell your son any one thing for him to
• 1:24:39
  remember the rest of his life, what would that be?
• 1:24:42
  Do it yourself. OK.
• 1:24:45
  Don't. Don't wait for somebody else
• 1:24:47
  because there is nobody else coming.
• 1:24:49
  I like that no matter who you are, nobody else is coming.
• 1:24:53
  No matter how many people you think love you, no matter how
• 1:24:56
  many people you think are in your corner when you hit rock
• 1:24:59
  bottom, there's nobody else but you.
• 1:25:02
  Don't. Don't sit there and wait for my
• 1:25:05
  approval. Don't wait for your mom's
• 1:25:07
  approval. Don't wait for your best
• 1:25:09
  friend's approval. Don't wait for anybody's
• 1:25:11
  approval. Because I tell you what, if
• 1:25:12
  you've already got a dream in your mind and your heart and
• 1:25:15
  your soul, God has given you something.
• 1:25:17
  He's blessed you with something. There's nobody that has a right
• 1:25:20
  to stand in the way of that. That's what you're gonna do.
• 1:25:23
  I like that. Don't wait, do it yourself, and
• 1:25:26
  I promise you, you're gonna enjoy.
• 1:25:27
  Life. I hope that's on your shirt.
• 1:25:29
  Because that is. Yeah, that is fucking powerful.
• 1:25:32
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:25:33
  I like that. If if you're gonna if you're
• 1:25:36
  gonna wait for somebody, you're never gonna be able to do it
• 1:25:39
  yourself. No.
• 1:25:40
  Well said. Well said.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah, Well, I know I can speak for Shane.
• 1:25:43
  Like, I really appreciate you coming out here and doing this
• 1:25:45
  with us. It's been great to get to know
• 1:25:46
  you. Your stories are awesome.
• 1:25:49
  Yeah. You know, hopefully we can do
• 1:25:50
  this again. Really.
• 1:25:51
  I thought, you know, we talked a lot about, like, what this
• 1:25:54
  episode was going to be about. And, you know, yeah, you're
• 1:25:57
  military, but you got ties to baseball and MMA and you know,
• 1:26:01
  all these other things and and your, you know, your training
• 1:26:05
  and, you know, just to hear somebody that has gone through
• 1:26:07
  what you've gone through, you know, you talk about the abuse
• 1:26:10
  to your body and all that other stuff and the ability to
• 1:26:12
  overcome all that. You know, that's really what
• 1:26:14
  this is about is, you know, we talked a little bit about, you
• 1:26:17
  know, what if somebody says this, somebody says that, and
• 1:26:19
  then you said just do it yourself.
• 1:26:20
  So, you know, I personally want to thank you for coming out and
• 1:26:23
  doing this. Hopefully we can do it again and
• 1:26:25
  just continue the stories and stuff when I.
• 1:26:27
  Get AC in the truck. I had to drive 2 hours here with
• 1:26:31
  no AC. Just do it yourself.
• 1:26:34
  Do it yourself and you're either going to do it or you're not
• 1:26:37
  going to do it. And that's that's something that
• 1:26:39
  I tell everybody that that's ever asked me, especially about
• 1:26:43
  bull riding, about anything in life.
• 1:26:45
  You're either gonna do it or you're not.
• 1:26:47
  Yeah, there is no if ands or buts about it.
• 1:26:49
  You're either gonna stay in your word and you're gonna press on
• 1:26:52
  and you're gonna take the lumps, you're gonna take the bruises
• 1:26:55
  and keep moving forward or you're gonna quit.
• 1:26:57
  Yeah. Awesome.
• 1:26:58
  So. So where can people?
• 1:27:01
  I'm gonna actually share all of his Instagram handles.
• 1:27:03
  We'll get that all attached and make sure that they do, that
• 1:27:06
  people can get him get connected.
• 1:27:08
  Yeah, we really appreciate it. Yeah, well done.
• 1:27:11
  I'm so happy to come out and do that and I'll be out here with
• 1:27:14
  you guys. Definitely do another show.
• 1:27:15
  Yes Sir. I'll try to bring out Junior.
• 1:27:18
  Yeah, that'd be awesome. I.
• 1:27:18
  Don't know if he'll sit still, but we'll see.
• 1:27:20
  It's all right. I mean, I got kids.
• 1:27:21
  He could. They could go do whatever.
• 1:27:24
  Yeah. All right, we won't find them.
• 1:27:27
  We got to put Junior's tag on him so just because he gets too
• 1:27:30
  far. It was awesome.
• 1:27:33
  But again, we appreciate you coming out, you know, showing
• 1:27:36
  some love to the show, but also just like allowing us to get to
• 1:27:39
  know you and hear your stories. And stuff like that.
• 1:27:41
  Especially somebody that didn't know you prior to this, like,
• 1:27:44
  listen, hearing a lot about you and, and, and you know, just
• 1:27:47
  getting to know a little bit about your lifestyle has been
• 1:27:49
  really fun to hear. It's been an honor, you know
• 1:27:51
  this. 1st guest first. Guest, 1st guest right here.
• 1:27:54
  Yeah, All right, I hope. Hey, hey, if you're watching,
• 1:27:57
  it's. A Marine pop.
• 1:27:58
  We're going. To try to get Marcus back out
• 1:28:00
  here. Let's get him some gas money
• 1:28:02
  next time. There you go, you really have
• 1:28:05
  to. Alright.
• 1:28:07
  Alright, thanks guys. You friends, everyone's going to
• 1:28:12
  be friends and plus you better ride like you ride.