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- 0:01Oh hey, welcome to into the channel podcast primarily about
- 0:07women's super. I'm your host dealer de suspres
- 0:09and as always, I am joined by my Co host, Mr. Grant Engel.
- 0:14What is up man? I'm feeling fantastic, buddy.
- 0:16Now we know we have all the information available to us, we
- 0:20know who's going to play in the quarterfinals of the way for
- 0:22Women's Champions League, and that's a good feeling.
- 0:25It's a great feeling, man. I think we got we got eight
- 0:28really good teams. I mean, I feel like I can say
- 0:30that I think I'm not sure that we that anybody, any big team is
- 0:33missing. I really like these matchups,
- 0:36you know, some familiarity, some rematches.
- 0:38But before we get there and you know we're going to get there, I
- 0:42want to talk about the football today because we had a lot of
- 0:46fun football, especially in the mornings tilt.
- 0:50Yeah, for sure. Let's do this, you know,
- 0:52chronological order. But first, if we're gonna even
- 0:54start chronological order, what always starts chronologically?
- 0:58That's a beer, my good man. Let's enjoy the football.
- 1:01Yeah, B comes pretty early in the proceedings.
- 1:05Cheers to you. Cheers to you, cheers to the
- 1:08football. It is.
- 1:09It is early in the proceedings, especially this time of day.
- 1:14Beautiful Pacific Time zone. But you know what?
- 1:15That's why you have PTO. That is why you have PTO.
- 1:20Got a couple, a couple of friends in the building.
- 1:22Oh, Reapers got his popcorn. Enjoy the sit back, get comfy,
- 1:27enjoy the show. Should be a fun one.
- 1:28I think we're going to do a lot of celebrating of your squad.
- 1:31But before we get there, we said we're going to go chronological.
- 1:34We had a big one this morning, a fun one.
- 1:37A lot of high stakes, nip and tuck, close football, Juventus
- 1:41and Wolfsburg. Where do I get started with that
- 1:44one? Wolfsburg 2.
- 1:47Juventus Nil. They advanced 4/2 on aggregate.
- 1:53It's not going to feel great if you're a UVA supporter or a UVA
- 1:56fan. I think.
- 1:57I feel like they probably left their home pitch feeling like
- 2:02they missed an opportunity here. They missed a bunch of
- 2:06opportunities, unfortunately, you know, so you look at the
- 2:08shots, 26 to 10, the second-half, they were just
- 2:13peppering, you know, the, the Wolfsburg gold is doing
- 2:15everything they could. They had that one stretch in the
- 2:1855th where it felt like they had three or four or five chances.
- 2:22I'm not sure if Anna Capetta did a backflip.
- 2:23There was some crazy stuff happening on that one sequence.
- 2:26And and then when that didn't, you know, pan out, it just felt
- 2:30like, man, it's going to be really, really tough.
- 2:33The the Juventus chances that were good just started to mount
- 2:37up and then you really wonder, you know, like, are they going
- 2:41to be able to breakthrough 26 shots on the day 9 on target and
- 2:45unable to find the back of the net.
- 2:47Wolfsburg was, I think, sharp from the start and they were
- 2:51able to, you know, just find it, find a couple moments in the
- 2:54match to kind of get it done. Yeah, I mean who they came out
- 3:00of the after the opening whistle, it felt like they were
- 3:03controlling the ball, kind of controlling the game, looking
- 3:07pretty good on the ball. And then that that Svenyuhuth
- 3:10pass to Vivianette Endeman seeing eye pass.
- 3:14I believe the the term is we like to use in sports.
- 3:17I mean perfect curl on it, perfect, perfect touch, perfect
- 3:21pace, and then Endeman does the rest.
- 3:24And it it it was that weird situation.
- 3:27We've been talking about who they all tournament,
- 3:28specifically you, because again, I I do want to start to say from
- 3:31the jump, you've been right about who they this entire time.
- 3:34I underestimated them. You were right on them as a as a
- 3:37very good team who would challenge for a good result in
- 3:40this entire tournament. But the the roles kind of
- 3:45flipped a little bit where who they was controlling it and then
- 3:48boom, Wolfsburg is super efficient on that opening
- 3:52chance. That is so so true.
- 3:54I wrote my notes. Wolfsburg looks sharper, but UVA
- 3:58may be more likely to score just because like they were like
- 4:00really like on the front foot and we're used to seeing like
- 4:03UVA counter. But that that switch and and
- 4:06game plan was super interesting. I love that you called out this
- 4:09menu who with ball. I mean she looked like, you know
- 4:13when I want a golfer to try to whack 1, you know, out of the
- 4:16rough and they can't quite see and then they just take take the
- 4:18whack and they're like OK, can I got to see it?
- 4:20I got to track it does exactly what who did she just hits it.
- 4:23She's like, I think I think I hit it right.
- 4:25I think I did exactly what I was trying to do.
- 4:27But let me just make sure she watches it.
- 4:29Cool fist bump. Cool, you know, kind of reverse
- 4:31camera shot, you know, to get to get both of them in the frame.
- 4:35And yeah, 35 year old Sven youth, you know, I I talk a lot
- 4:38about Wolfsburg's no show versus Lyon in the group stage where
- 4:42they get out shot 21 to one. They lose 3 to one put up, you
- 4:45know, zero fight. No Sven you Huth in that 135
- 4:49years old, but she's been really, really good lately.
- 4:52And no Vivian Endeman now on either.
- 4:54No Alex Pop today. So you kind of, you know, you
- 4:58know, make what you will of it. But I'm not, I'm not sure that
- 5:01the I'm a little bit more hopeful about Wolfsburg versus
- 5:04Leo in the second time around, I'll say.
- 5:06Are we going to get the take? Is Wolfsburg better without Alex
- 5:09Pop? Are we going to try to get that
- 5:10take off the ground? Not.
- 5:13Not here. No, not today.
- 5:15No, can't get it off the ground. Doesn't have legs, wings,
- 5:18anything, but I, I hear I hear what you say.
- 5:21I mean, Huth is just, you know, crafty veteran, tough, you know,
- 5:27you want her in these big spots. I thought the crowd was good at
- 5:31Juventus. You know, I thought they were
- 5:33they were pretty lively and just they they were able to fend off
- 5:41Juventus like I, I, I'm going to go back to it a little bit.
- 5:43I don't mean to over overdo it, but like it just felt like a
- 5:47little bit of a role reversal where Wolfsburg, they get the
- 5:50opener and they're like, OK, we score 18 minutes in.
- 5:53Can we see it out? Can we see out the final 72
- 5:57minutes of this match? And you know, what's funny about
- 6:00it, too, is, you know, Wolfsburg for the rest of the first half
- 6:04was like pretty aggressive offensively where they're like,
- 6:06you know, right, we're still in the front foot.
- 6:07We're not going to, you know, rest on this one nil.
- 6:08Like we're going to, you know, still a lot of football we
- 6:10played. I think they were expecting
- 6:11Juventus to come roaring back, but then like the 1st 10 minutes
- 6:15of the second-half, you kind of watch them and you're like, wait
- 6:18a minute, they're not actually doing anything.
- 6:20Even though they got the ball, they're connecting passes, they
- 6:22they look kind of engaged. They're really not trying to
- 6:25threaten. They're kind of kind of faking
- 6:27it at that point. I think you've a picks up on
- 6:30that and really kind of turns up the volume on the rest of the
- 6:33match. And yet credits of Wolfsburg.
- 6:35I thought defensively, I thought Coover in the middle was huge,
- 6:39literally and figuratively. You know, she skied on one and
- 6:42you know, like cleared out a really dangerous set piece and
- 6:45you know, that's what you really wants to do Me all day on the
- 6:47outside. Dykstra, like I thought
- 6:49defensively they were really, really, really solid.
- 6:52You know, when you vent, it's really put pressure on them.
- 6:55I haven't seen that many Italian slamming shots in Season 1 of
- 6:58Jersey Shore, but credit to Wolfsburg.
- 7:01Like they, they slammed the door, they they did what they
- 7:03needed to do and and they were advancing.
- 7:05Gym tan laundry, of course, I mean, like it felt like who
- 7:10Wolfsburg was pinned back in a lot of those in a lot of those
- 7:14situations where like from my notes, Wolfsburg can't seem to
- 7:17do anything but hit desperation clearances and then just give
- 7:21the ball right back to Uvey like and it gave it continued to
- 7:26increase my respect for Juventus and this iteration of their
- 7:31squad because they can do a little bit of both.
- 7:35They can sit in the low block. They can play a defensive style.
- 7:38They can, you know, be efficient with those counters.
- 7:40But then when they needed to in this match versus Wolfsburg and
- 7:43I realized they didn't exactly they didn't get a goal.
- 7:45So maybe people would say, yeah, maybe they're not so good at it,
- 7:48but they looked good in a lot of that build up.
- 7:51And what you were what you were mentioning about that, I think
- 7:56you mentioned it earlier that that chance around like the 55th
- 7:58minute there, you know, there's a Capeta tries the the bike from
- 8:05short range off the crossbar like they were right there.
- 8:10And if they score and it's one one in that in that moment, I
- 8:17think maybe we probably have a different match.
- 8:18But you know, sometimes the crossbar has a say in things
- 8:21too. And sometimes steaming honest
- 8:25has a say in things a lot. I mean, I thought she was
- 8:29really, really good, really decisive.
- 8:32And it was, you know, not to like it.
- 8:35It was, you know, kind of like they were battling down there,
- 8:38you know, in the 18. And I wrote in my notes, like
- 8:40right around the 60s, I'm like, if Wolf works, I'm just going to
- 8:44let you know, Juventus knock the ball around in the final third
- 8:47and and really, you know, try to hold the Fort for this long.
- 8:50That's a long time, you know, and it ends up, you know, the
- 8:53shots really, really start to rack up.
- 8:56But credit to them. It was the right, you know, it
- 8:59was, I don't want to say it was the right game plan, but the
- 9:01game plan, you know, worked at the end of the day.
- 9:04And then Korsaki, a player that we've been, you know, kind of
- 9:06excited about. How about that for a punctual
- 9:11you should mark. Yeah, that worked out well.
- 9:14Good sub, Coach. I mean, it was Cassia Busi, the
- 9:18other the other substitute who plays the ball into her.
- 9:23And yeah, I mean, Zakai just hits the absolute dagger in in
- 9:29more ways than one. It's like it's one thing to get
- 9:31the goal to basically seal the tie.
- 9:34If it's just like one of those tappins, you kind of see it and
- 9:36you're like, OK, that's that. But to do it in that fashion
- 9:39from that distance, you know, graze the crossbar, you know,
- 9:44just a, just a blazer. Up and down ping is just like
- 9:47that. Of course, you know, it takes it
- 9:49to another level, but I get I'm I'm very I was very impressed by
- 9:54by Willisburg showing today professional.
- 9:57I think they executed the game plan.
- 9:58They wanted to get the goal. They kind of, you know, a little
- 10:02some smoke and mirrors to kind of hold the lead and then
- 10:05ultimately, you know, able to keep you event.
- 10:07Yeah, you meant us out and I think we'll see.
- 10:10You know, if they if they can put forth a better showing
- 10:13versus Leon, I think they're in better form.
- 10:16You know, I feel like. Well, let me ask you about
- 10:18Berenstain because chances today.
- 10:22I thought she was calibrating. I thought she was getting
- 10:24closer. You know, I'm, I'm kind of very
- 10:27interested to see if they roll out Berenstein and Sakai on
- 10:30opposite sides to see if they can stretch things out a little
- 10:34bit and give each other more space and, and make Leon have to
- 10:37try to run with them. But I thought Berenstein had
- 10:40kind of like an effective game. But again, to beat Leon, to
- 10:44compete with Leon, it's a lot like what we said with Real
- 10:46Madrid and and Barcelona. You need almost everybody to
- 10:48have like an A game. Yes, I totally agree with that.
- 10:52They got to figure out something.
- 10:53I, I think. I think Bernstein was fine in
- 10:57this one. I think this is 2 two matches in
- 10:59a row. I think you were a little higher
- 11:01on Bernstein's performance versus Juventus last match too.
- 11:03Correct me if I'm wrong, but I, I, I wonder if it is just, I, my
- 11:09caveman brain of like, you're #9 if you're not going to score, at
- 11:15least make like a mess of things for the defense down there.
- 11:19Like where's the shot that hits the, that hits the post?
- 11:22You know, where's the shot that the keeper can't quite hold that
- 11:25creates A rebound? Like, I want to see like some
- 11:28real dangerous situations. And I, I just didn't feel like I
- 11:31got enough of that out of her, these last two.
- 11:34It's a. It's a great call by you because
- 11:37to beat Leon, you know, and it's it's compete with Leo.
- 11:40And even in that in that first one at home, they're going to
- 11:43need Bernstein to do something. They'll probably have to don't
- 11:45need pop, but I don't need kind of like all the guns, you know,
- 11:48ready to go. I'm excited for that time.
- 11:51But let's talk about the second match up of today a little bit,
- 11:55you know, a little bit a little less drama, but got off to a fun
- 11:58start. You know, I think I'd let the,
- 12:01you know, came out trying to try to make make it a little bit
- 12:04interesting at least. But you know, Manchester United
- 12:07gets it done. We've got some of our friends in
- 12:09the building ready to talk about it, ready to hear about it.
- 12:11Where do you want to get started with this match up?
- 12:14Manchester United 2 Atletico Madrid nil Manchester United
- 12:18advances to the quarterfinals 5 nil on aggregate.
- 12:22Real quick, our you know, future friend of the show.
- 12:25He hasn't been on the show yet, but Jonathan Pierce, the
- 12:27commentator, made it. Made a reference to SK Brown in
- 12:30the 4th minute. Always got to know that I talked
- 12:33about Manchester United's matches versus them, but.
- 12:38Real quick on Pierce before before we move off Pierce.
- 12:41Please. I thought I was bold and you
- 12:43kind of shouted me out for saying that, you know, 3 Nils,
- 12:45you know, it's still not over yet.
- 12:47Our guy Pierce 5 NIL at halftime kind of slid in a.
- 12:52But anything can happen. I love it.
- 12:54It would be one of the greatest comebacks ever.
- 12:56Yeah. He did, he did, he did.
- 12:58He couched it on each hat, you know, to his to his granted, but
- 13:01you know, he he kind of came over the top.
- 13:03I got, you know, game, game recognized game a little bit.
- 13:06Yeah, he's obviously a legend. I, you know, I liked, I liked
- 13:12that Lenny's grit coming in into this.
- 13:14I thought they they did what they they held the ball with a
- 13:20little more confidence. I think in the in the opening
- 13:22like 20, I thought that they were able to kind of pass the
- 13:25ball around. They weren't panicking.
- 13:27You know, United was going to press them.
- 13:28They were they were going to, you know, make their passes the
- 13:31way they needed it. But I mean, this was just yet
- 13:34another stamp by Manchester United that their their stock
- 13:43going way in the right direction for them and their fan base.
- 13:47Like this team is really fucking good and they have a lot of ways
- 13:52to hurt you. A lot of ways to hurt you.
- 13:55They have a great mix of veterans and young players and
- 13:59kind of mid career players. And I really like I really, you
- 14:03know, and I talked about this a little bit yesterday with with
- 14:05Arsenal, I don't really care if they can hang another two goals
- 14:10in the last 10 or 10 or 15 minutes of the match or three
- 14:12goals. And I'm going to feel better if
- 14:13it's three instead of two or two or instead of 1.
- 14:16I think the same thing with United in this one, because I
- 14:20thought defensively they really made a point to say we're not
- 14:24going to let you score, you know, or we're we're really
- 14:27going to make you earn even just one goal even with this lead.
- 14:31And they really kind of hung their hat on that.
- 14:33And you just look at the players that they've got on defense
- 14:36male, it's ACA, Dominique Hansen, Gabby George, Hannah
- 14:39Lunquist, Millie Turner's back, Jade Rivier will be back from
- 14:43injury and a Sandberg. I think Jeff's report yesterday
- 14:45that might be 5-6 weeks. That's a killer defense.
- 14:49Roleful could play back there in a pinch if you need it.
- 14:52And then and then up ahead of them you got Miyazawa and just
- 14:55park were both just absolute Wizards.
- 14:58And it's like that's a scary that's a scary 4 + 2 to kind of
- 15:01like be like, right, how do we breakthrough there?
- 15:03How do we get the ball? How do we what do we do against,
- 15:06you know, like that, that absolute back line and then PTJ,
- 15:09you know, as the as the final backstop.
- 15:11It's like, I don't know, this is going to be tough.
- 15:13It's going to be tough to beat this team.
- 15:15There was a shot early, Sariegi gets it to Jensen, Jensen hits a
- 15:21shot to PT JS left and she makes a diving stop.
- 15:26It was a good save man. She makes those saves look way
- 15:30easier than they are. Like especially for a tall
- 15:33goalkeeper to get all the way down to the ground like that and
- 15:36push it away that she is a beast out there.
- 15:41Yeah, and I mean, she can get a pie.
- 15:43Yeah, sure. Positioning is great.
- 15:45She's super smart and she has a pridefulness to her, you know,
- 15:51like to her game. Like she's like she really kind
- 15:53of gets engaged when when it's time and that trickles out, you
- 15:57know, and then you look at, you know, the score line that they
- 15:59put forth, you know, in aggregate 5 nil, you know, and I
- 16:03don't want to say this wasn't a toss up matchup going into it.
- 16:06You know, I think we were interested to watch to see, OK,
- 16:09what would these teams look like against each other?
- 16:12But I I think 5 no, was a lot, a lot healthier than than I was
- 16:16expecting. And I don't know that going into
- 16:19this, you know, United fans would have expected more than
- 16:23that. And then it's hard not to look
- 16:24at Skinner and be like that dude's figuring some stuff out.
- 16:27Even with new players added to the mix of movement.
- 16:30You look at 4 play, you know, 4, four players in an in out of the
- 16:33lineup between last week's matchup and this week.
- 16:36Terlin Vanderheim, she gets to comes on a sub Samberg Riviera
- 16:40where in the first in the first leg, Schuler Nelson, who was
- 16:43great today, Lindquist and Millie Turner, you know what I
- 16:46mean? And didn't miss a beat.
- 16:49Yeah, Nelson was great. I'm glad.
- 16:51I'm glad you shouted her out. Yeah, they they've built on
- 16:55their depth. The acquisitions of Lundquist
- 16:58and Schuler, you know, over in the January window are going to
- 17:03be massive. And that's, we always talk about
- 17:05that. Like that's going to be that's
- 17:06the next step for Real Madrid kind of on that ascending.
- 17:11It's funny to to say that about Real Madrid, but in and the
- 17:14women's side, you know, you're, you're ascending, you have some,
- 17:17you get your great players and you get those kind of
- 17:20cornerstone pieces. And then you have to fill in
- 17:22depth around them to make sure that you can compete against the
- 17:26Barcelona's, the Chelsea's, the Lyons, the 2024 Orlando Prides,
- 17:31you know, etcetera. And like Manchester United, you
- 17:35know, is, is doing that. So I, I, I think, you know,
- 17:40they're, they're super dangerous.
- 17:42You see what Jess Park is it is able to do in those moments.
- 17:46We had a, a mention in the comments, somebody was shouting
- 17:51out our pal Leanne. Let me just make sure I find it
- 17:53real quick. It was our pal Owen referencing
- 17:56Leanne Sanderson's take on Jess Park, saying that essentially
- 17:59she needs to like be a little more cocky, play with more
- 18:01confidence. And I think that's totally true.
- 18:04Like Jess Park and you know, here we go.
- 18:08I'm going to make a city comparison.
- 18:09Owen and and Reaper yell at me if you want.
- 18:12Jess Park reminds me so much of Phil Foden.
- 18:15It's ridiculous. Like when she takes those those,
- 18:18some of those long range shots and her movement and the way she
- 18:20looks on the ball like she she can do things that make any
- 18:26pundit, any former player, any announcer, any fan look up and
- 18:29go, well, if she can do that consistently, then what?
- 18:32What's the ceiling like? The ceiling is way, way high.
- 18:36It you know, it's you just wonder if it's a confidence
- 18:41thing. Like, you know, I think I
- 18:42wouldn't I'm not sure what mentioned in the chat, but I
- 18:45know the end mentioned it on her show.
- 18:48I think Pierce on the telecast was a he he was saying, oh, Park
- 18:51needs to play with her head up a little bit more.
- 18:53I wasn't sure about all that. But you know, again, it could
- 18:58just be a function of a young player and a lot of flux and you
- 19:00know, kind of like chemistry. You know, chemistry takes a
- 19:03little bit of time, especially for younger players.
- 19:05And you know, just park isn't a man, just United veteran.
- 19:08She came over to, you know, not so long ago.
- 19:12So it's not it's not a play that came up to that system.
- 19:14So I think, you know, if Park, I mean, if they can unlock, if
- 19:19they can unlock park, what she was able to do today with that
- 19:21absolute rocket off the short corner, you know, just they put
- 19:25they put that defender. I'm blanking on kind of who it
- 19:27was, but Miyazawa, you have, you have Miyazawan Park in A2V1 on a
- 19:33short corner, but Miyazawa wired and Park moving into the center
- 19:36of the park and nobody within 7 or 8 yards when the action
- 19:40starts. And it's like that's almost a
- 19:41free throw for her. And to her credit, she buries it
- 19:44with style. A super moment and like
- 19:48hopefully a springboard moment for just Parkers.
- 19:50I think we want to see her kind of like keep ascending because I
- 19:53think that we everybody, you know, to could say use of Leanne
- 19:56ISM. I think we all think that
- 19:57there's more in her locker for sure.
- 19:59There we go. I knew I knew we were getting
- 20:01that interlocker. Yeah, a ton interlocker.
- 20:03That's I think that's part of what we might.
- 20:05What you know, makes me think of Foden so much.
- 20:07Is that like it's just like the little touch here or there like,
- 20:10oh, I'll get the ball away from you and I'm creating space and
- 20:13I'm creating space in the right direction to where I see where
- 20:15my team mates are. And it's just like 5 things have
- 20:18been somehow calculated and computed within one touch to to
- 20:22help the offense move. I'm glad you shout out me as.
- 20:25That way she's just such a quiet world beater at times where
- 20:29she's just demoralizing the opponent in several different
- 20:32ways. And then I, I think you've
- 20:35mentioned her already. I have not yet said the name
- 20:38Ziggyati and that that midfield, if Ziggyati is going to cook
- 20:43like this, then they're live. I I think they they'd be live
- 20:47versus. Anybody.
- 20:49Absolutely, and apologies to anybody rocking with us in the
- 20:54on the live. It does look like the the
- 20:56cameras are blacked out. If you do want to kind of go
- 20:58back and re watch, see the video, that'll definitely be
- 21:01available after the fact. But, you know, we're we're still
- 21:04trying to figure out how to how technology works.
- 21:06It's just our faces. I mean, I don't know, like do do
- 21:09you got to look like, do you got to do you got to look at us?
- 21:12You're not missing anything. Yeah, I promise you're not
- 21:14missing just. Two dudes talking.
- 21:15Yeah, we're we're given the heat audio in audio capacity and
- 21:18again if you want to go back and watch that ought to be available
- 21:20to you. True, I'm not discouraging
- 21:25people from watching on YouTube. No, I would never do that.
- 21:28Then definitely keep hanging out with this.
- 21:29But Ziggyati, I'm glad you brought up Ziggyati because that
- 21:33is absolutely a big game player, a huge game player, like, you
- 21:38know, all the way back to the, to, to the EUR and then, you
- 21:41know, coming over from from Byron, I believe, and just you
- 21:45could always expect like an outperform from her, you know,
- 21:48which is like super duper exciting.
- 21:51And I think she's somebody that has settled in really nicely and
- 21:53really quickly. And I don't know, Skinner just
- 21:56has a lot of a lot of pieces to kind of move around, you know,
- 21:59and I think to to to the Real Madrid point that you were
- 22:01making earlier, the depth is important, but also the
- 22:04versatility in play. You're going to face different
- 22:07teams, different game situations.
- 22:10You might need this, you might need that.
- 22:12And to have to be able to like move stuff around and play
- 22:14different styles. I mean it, it makes a huge
- 22:16difference in a tournament like this.
- 22:19I mean, that's kind of what I was talking about with Juventus.
- 22:21And I understand they're on the losing side here.
- 22:23But just having the ability, like when you are in this stage
- 22:28of your club's development and you're and you're working your
- 22:31way up to play against one of, you know, the apex teams.
- 22:35And you know, we talk about women's football, your apex
- 22:38teams right now as it stands in Europe, Barcelona, Lyon, Chelsea
- 22:43and Chelsea, you know, maybe wobbling a bit, but we'll
- 22:46they're still they're still in the mix, right?
- 22:49Is that you have to, even if you are very used to in all other
- 22:54circumstances, being a favorite and having a talent advantage,
- 22:58when you go up against one of those clubs, maybe you don't
- 23:02have a talent advantage. And when it comes to Barcelona
- 23:04and Lyon, you don't have a talent advantage.
- 23:07There's not much of A discussion for for some of those teams.
- 23:10So you got to figure out like, OK, we maybe have to play in the
- 23:13low block here. We have to play more of a
- 23:15defensive style. We have to be confident with our
- 23:18passing when we're getting pressed.
- 23:20I think, I think United looks like they have the ability to do
- 23:23that. And then you mentioned as an X
- 23:25Factor or a potential X Factor, you got a great shot stopping
- 23:29goalkeeper back there. Yeah, no, I, I, I kind of
- 23:33secretly love them. Let's talk about that Byron
- 23:35matchup because not only is United kind of figuring a lot of
- 23:39stuff out kind of as we go here, but United also kind of casually
- 23:44took lifted one of Byron's, you know, most deadly weapons and
- 23:49Leia Schuler. And it's kind of slowly working
- 23:51her into the mix. So now you have a Byron that I
- 23:53don't want to say they're they're shorthanded.
- 23:55They're still super duper talented.
- 23:58But I don't know, you stack up those rosters, you know, side by
- 24:01side. I'm not sure.
- 24:03I'm not sure how much of an advantage, you know, if you're
- 24:06going top to bottom. I feel like Byron's got over
- 24:09United. Yeah.
- 24:12I think I think that's fair and I and I think, yeah, all of our
- 24:17United pals should probably point out, well, good thing
- 24:20we're not playing Leon or Barcelona in the next round.
- 24:23We're playing Bayern Munich. And yeah, Bayern Munich has
- 24:25history. They have funding, they have
- 24:27great players themselves. But I think you're probably
- 24:31about right on the on the on the talent level.
- 24:36So what? I mean, you you think you got
- 24:38harder? Yeah.
- 24:43Dom Yanovitch, Stanway, Sammy's. Back, yeah.
- 24:49So I mean, it's, it's at least not a runaway.
- 24:54It's definitely not a runaway. I think, I think you're right.
- 24:56I think it's pretty close and. It'll be the closest of the
- 25:01four, right? Like of the four matchups, I
- 25:04mean, Arsenal, Chelsea's close. What about your Gunners there,
- 25:07buddy? Yeah, well, I mean, it depends.
- 25:09You think Chelsea's going to be able to compete there or we
- 25:11don't want to forms still full wobble.
- 25:15There we go. No, but it'll be it'll
- 25:18definitely be exciting. Do you expect Now let me put it
- 25:20this way. Who do you expect to advance of
- 25:22those two? And you know, it's not your
- 25:23official pick, you know, but if you if you were a betting man
- 25:28and you know, you saw, you saw those at those odds sitting
- 25:30right at 5050, you know, where would you land on that?
- 25:35If I were a betting man, I think, I think we both know I am
- 25:39in fact a betting man. I know you are as well, man.
- 25:45I, I got to try to fight against the recency bias.
- 25:49I think if you were to make me choose right now, I don't feel
- 25:58great about it. I don't feel great about saying
- 26:00it. I think I think I might,
- 26:07especially if there's value on it.
- 26:08We're talking about betting. If there's a little value on it,
- 26:11I think I would take United. It's close, man.
- 26:14It's close. Oh.
- 26:17My God. This is where some of us like I
- 26:20don't. Think you would actually do it?
- 26:23This is all right. Well, I mean, this is where
- 26:25maybe some of the historical stuff works against me and Dino
- 26:28is that, you know, we've been, you know, I, I really picked up
- 26:31trying to watch women's football in 2015 after the World Cup and
- 26:34it got even more into it after 2019.
- 26:37Like maybe I'm missing something like historically of why I
- 26:42should think Bayern should be a bigger favorite.
- 26:44I don't think they're going to be much of A favorite.
- 26:47And in that scenario, if I had to put my very hard earned money
- 26:51on it, I, I mean, United looks really strong and we haven't
- 26:55even said, have we even said the name Melvin Millar yet?
- 26:59You know, you don't even, it's like you don't even really have
- 27:01to say I don't even do you don't.
- 27:03I mean, she's just so good. She's so good.
- 27:05She's such a weapon. You know, it's like to have a
- 27:08player that like when I don't want to say when nothing's
- 27:10working because stuff is working, but like even in a 3
- 27:13minute stretch, when nothing's working, you can just give her
- 27:15the ball and she's like, oh wow, all of a sudden things are
- 27:17working. Like she's a great, great
- 27:20player. So creative, tough, physical.
- 27:24I mean, yeah, an absolute weapon and it's absolutely found at
- 27:26home. I kind of, you know, we we joke
- 27:28about the revenge matches. You know, we're going to get Leo
- 27:30Schulman, revenge judge. Maybe down the line, maybe we
- 27:33get a little united Leo. And I'm not sure where they sit
- 27:35in the bracket, but maybe a little Melvin Millar revenge
- 27:38match would be exciting because I feel like that's a player that
- 27:40would maybe get up for it in an exciting way.
- 27:42But if I had to make a pick, I I am afraid of the prisoner of the
- 27:48moment situation for sure. I do like Bayern's experience in
- 27:53this tournament, sure. But with that said, two years
- 27:56ago we saw all that this Bayern team not get out of the group
- 27:59stage. That's like, you know, like, so
- 28:04it does give me a little bit of pause And and I think where
- 28:06United lacks experience as an organization in the tournament,
- 28:10they make up for it with experienced players that have
- 28:12kind of won at multiple stops. So I think I'm with you.
- 28:16Even odds even, you know, trying to tamp down, OK, what I just
- 28:21saw, what we just saw this past week.
- 28:22I think I would take United over Byron.
- 28:25All right there we go we park our cars in the same garage.
- 28:28I always I always appreciate that and the legend himself
- 28:32Carlo are our great pal great friend of the show mentions that
- 28:38Clara Bull will be integral for for Bayern. 100% right, 25 years
- 28:43old here, here me here are me and Dino saying you know what I
- 28:47think I would pick United. But if it does happen, you know,
- 28:53and Bayern runs away with with a you know two wins over the tie.
- 28:57It probably looks a lot like Clara bull being like hey, you
- 29:00remember how awesome I am. Am I one of the 15 best players
- 29:03in the world? Yep, I might be.
- 29:06I agree with that. It it's it's the kind of like
- 29:09the player X corollary. It's like if we get it, if we
- 29:12get a Clara Bull game, which we can, they're going to win.
- 29:15And that just is going to be what it is just because her
- 29:18ceiling again, I think it reaches higher than than other
- 29:20players. A lot of good football, a lot of
- 29:24fun football. You know, this this knockout
- 29:27stage match. I was talking to you about this
- 29:28yesterday. I kind of like the new I like
- 29:30the new setup. I like the extra football, like
- 29:32the the extra breaths in between.
- 29:34I feel like we learn a little bit more.
- 29:36We talk about how big experiences in this tournament
- 29:39and for clubs like a Louvin, like a Juventus, you know, just
- 29:44kind of get to this stage, you know, and really be pitted
- 29:47against, you know, the upper upper crust.
- 29:49It's got to be great for their confidence and kind of like a
- 29:51great, great, great building block.
- 29:53So I, I think it's been a huge addition and I think what we're
- 29:57just four weeks, 4 + 4 or five weeks away from, from the final
- 30:03eight kicking off, that's incredibly exciting.
- 30:06That is excellent stuff. Yeah, about 4 1/2 weeks.
- 30:09I think the matches are going to happen either on the 24th or
- 30:1225th of March. I do think it's fun that we have
- 30:17the second leg fixtures already sorted in terms of the UEFA
- 30:23Women's Champions League website, so Chelsea and Arsenal
- 30:25will in fact shout out to our pal Jess yesterday.
- 30:28Chelsea and Arsenal will in fact play on April Fool's Day, April
- 30:321st, 2026. And Barcelona, Real Madrid, El
- 30:36Clasico, as I've heard it described, they will play on
- 30:39Thursday, April 2nd. And so Leon plays Wolfsburg on
- 30:47on the 2nd and Bayern plays United.
- 30:49Bayern at home plays United on on April Fools to April 1st.
- 30:53So yeah, man, I mean, look at these teams that we got here.
- 30:58I mean looking pretty good so far.
- 31:03I think, I think we did. I think we all did pretty well
- 31:05for ourselves. We're going to have a fun
- 31:07quarterfinals and beyond. I'm up for some, some more live
- 31:12shows for sure. You know the I'm not gonna, you
- 31:16know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say it, but I had a
- 31:20thought. I don't want I don't want to do
- 31:22our friends like that. But I had a thought.
- 31:23We'll do we'll talk about it offline.
- 31:25OK, on the producer note. Suspense.
- 31:28All right, Sorry to our pals who are watching this live.
- 31:30I don't know. I don't know what it is either.
- 31:32This is part of the fun, though. Dino often says things and I'm
- 31:35like, oh, OK, yeah, news to me. And we're doing this.
- 31:38Yeah, but I said half a thing, but I want to kind of follow.
- 31:40But either way, I think we'll be live for for our our our famous
- 31:44postgame recaps. We're going to figure out a way
- 31:47to turn our cameras on. We'll figure out.
- 31:48I can see Grant, he can see me, but somehow nobody else can see
- 31:51us. No worries though, Like I said,
- 31:52it will be. We'll be back on the replay and
- 31:55I think we'll be back soon in a few days.
- 31:57Obviously European football big, you know, in the mix.
- 32:00We get Byron and Wolfsburg this weekend.
- 32:03Wolfsburg traveling to Byron in a big one, you know, So the
- 32:06football continues for short, even if Champions League takes a
- 32:08little bit of a break. So if the football continues,
- 32:11you already know your boys are here to to continue alongside it
- 32:14as well. Well, I mean, it's Chelsea,
- 32:17Chelsea, United in the FA Cup, right?
- 32:20Like a round of 16. I mean it, it was asked earlier,
- 32:26what where do you land United coming off this win, coming off
- 32:30the good vibes, coming off the good feelings.
- 32:33Now they got to play a little plucky underdog named Chelsea
- 32:35Football Club in the FA Cup. How do you see that one going?
- 32:41I mean, Leanne came on and talked to us about, you know,
- 32:45Chelsea's what happens when, you know, if they go kind of trophy
- 32:48list. So you just wonder if they kind
- 32:51of push in a little. And she's I think she said
- 32:53something. Wow.
- 32:53I'm not sure if I misheard her, but I think she still said she
- 32:55still likes Chelsea to win the Champions League.
- 32:58Yeah. I mean, if she's if she did say
- 32:59that, that's crazy. And I'm like 95% sure she said
- 33:02it, but that's, that's absolutely nuts.
- 33:05I think they're way, way, way off off off track there.
- 33:09But I can kind of see them pushing chips into the FA Cup,
- 33:13you know, you know, pot and saying like, look, let's let's
- 33:15kind of like. Let's kind of this.
- 33:17One up. Yeah, we need it.
- 33:20And who knows if that has an adverse effect, if we're putting
- 33:22extra pressure on the players, like, why are we, you know,
- 33:25losing sleep over this Rod? But we'll see.
- 33:28But I do like Tulsi to kind of, you know, advance and and really
- 33:31maybe you know, low key prioritize that competition.
- 33:35I think it would make sense. I, I just don't know.
- 33:37I mean, it's endlessly fascinating how managers and
- 33:43clubs and players look at this. Like I think for us as American
- 33:48sports fans, you can correct me if, if you or you know, disagree
- 33:52with me. If you look at this differently,
- 33:53like as an, as an American kid growing up and watching sports
- 33:57through a very American prism, there was always 1 trophy that
- 34:01people cared about right in, in every, in every league.
- 34:06And then when you see these other trophies, and I started to
- 34:08kind of wrap my mind around professional soccer when I was
- 34:10like 7 or 8, I had a buddy who kind of put me on game and I was
- 34:15like, oh, OK, there are these different tournaments.
- 34:17Winning trophies is cool. You should like, and that's why
- 34:21I think like people's dismissal of the NBA Cup of the, of the in
- 34:25season tournament. And I believe the original
- 34:27iteration was called like stop being a bastard about it.
- 34:31Like that's cool. Like did the did the players
- 34:34play in the game? Were they were there was were
- 34:37they playing for a trophy? Like was there money involved?
- 34:39Yes, like that's cool. And you've seen like these last
- 34:42two years, the NBA Cup has been pretty cool.
- 34:44Like it's been fun. And I, and I think now you're
- 34:50left with that decision. But you can never say out loud
- 34:56if you're Chelsea, but we're going to prioritize the the FA
- 34:59Cup like you can't. You can't say those words, but
- 35:04maybe you do. Yeah, that's why I say it.
- 35:08Maybe the adverse effect is like, wait, what are we doing?
- 35:11This is the how do we get here? It's really interesting because
- 35:14I think, you know, in competition, you know, these
- 35:17pairs are competitive. I've made the mistake of asking
- 35:19Penelope Hawking, you know, like how to how do you get, you know,
- 35:23like you're a competitor. How do you raise the level of
- 35:24competition on your teammates? He's like everybody who's a
- 35:27competitor. We're you know, if you're not a
- 35:28competitor, you can't be here. And I was like, I got you see
- 35:31how competitive you are even in the Q&A.
- 35:34But I think, you know, like it. These players get really
- 35:39competitive about anything, you know, 2K FIFA, whatever,
- 35:42whatever you want to say, you know, the Candy Crush, you know,
- 35:45so an NBA cup, an FA Cup, like once once the balls out there
- 35:48and the other team were in the different kids are playing,
- 35:51these players are going to compete.
- 35:52You know, like it. It's not really really about
- 35:55anything but that. But there is still that
- 35:58underlying like, you know, the business, organizational, large
- 36:02scale goals that do sit in the back of your head, you know, the
- 36:05insecurities. So I think that's what makes
- 36:07this season so fascinating because, you know, we've seen
- 36:12Barcelona, Leona, Chelsea kind of sit atop the sport for like
- 36:16the last, you know, X number of years, like really kind of UN,
- 36:20you know, unpushed, let's say. And now we're sort of starting
- 36:24to see like the little cracks. And it's not anything that the
- 36:27teams at the top are doing or not doing.
- 36:29You know, it's just that they cannot continue to get like
- 36:32improve it at this crazy pace. And the teams just right below
- 36:36them have opportunities, you know, to like replace a player
- 36:40that's kind of so sort of average with, you know, a sort
- 36:43of excellent player, like as a YOTY, you know, who's an
- 36:45excellent player, You know, you, you know, like once that player,
- 36:48you know, fills that role, you're like, wow, this, this
- 36:51took us up a level, you know, Loonquist for, for, for United,
- 36:54kind of the same like wow, this now, now we've now we can feel
- 36:58like we can compete and they have the horses to do it.
- 37:02They absolutely do, and I think it's obviously better for the
- 37:05game and I think it helps give some appreciation for this like
- 37:093 plus year run from Barcelona where it's like that's not
- 37:13regular, Like a club can't really, you know, sustain that
- 37:19for for too long. And it speaks to the talent pool
- 37:22for just how how short it might get cut from time to time.
- 37:26Now, you know, I mean, we're looking at Chelsea and they've
- 37:28won the the WSL so many times in a row.
- 37:31It looks like that's probably over.
- 37:34And now you know, here me and you are asking questions like,
- 37:38oh boy, are you going to go trophy lists?
- 37:40Like what's going to happen? Think of how many clubs every
- 37:42year go trophy lists and they don't even have a chance at.
- 37:47Yeah, but you know a lot of the them financials, they don't have
- 37:51the same, can't really stack them up side by side.
- 37:55It's true. Either way, it'll be pretty
- 37:57riveting stuff. But I I say, you know, I say all
- 38:00of that to say your boy's going to keep covering the football.
- 38:02Doesn't matter the competition. You know, we've, we've got our
- 38:04leaves, we got our finger on the pulse and it's all right around
- 38:07the corner too. A lot of fun international stuff
- 38:10coming our way this year as well.
- 38:12Is there anything else you want to hit, Mr. Grant Angle before
- 38:15we got here for the day? I think that's it.
- 38:17I think we've done it. We've made it to the
- 38:19quarterfinals third consecutive year.
- 38:22Me and you are our quarter Champions League
- 38:24quarterfinalist. So Congrats to you buddy.
- 38:27And to you as well, I know we, we stuck to the plan and you
- 38:30know, we executed, we explored the transfer market, but
- 38:32ultimately, you know, we decided, you know, grass was not
- 38:34greener. So here we are.
- 38:36That's right. I appreciate it bro.
- 38:39Likewise, man, thank you for everybody for rocking with us.
- 38:43What I mean, in the chat today we have our pals, Reaper, Delta,
- 38:47Owen, Carlo, of course, the legend.
- 38:50Thank you guys for hanging out with us live.
- 38:51We'll put this up on all the streams.
- 38:53I mean, if you're watching this later, you're already watching
- 38:56it on the stream, so that's cool.
- 38:57Apple podcast, all that stuff. I don't know why I'm trying to
- 39:00go through all this, but are we doing the dismount now or am I
- 39:04lost? You're doing you're doing it
- 39:05because I didn't do it and I kind of I kind of set you up in
- 39:08a poor way. You weren't looking and I passed
- 39:10you the ball and it kind of bounced off your forehead.
- 39:11So for that I apologize. That was not cool.
- 39:14We are into the channel like follow, subscribe, do all that
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- 39:21don't need in the description of this episode.
- 39:25And a big think of my close as well, Mr. Grant Engel, our the
- 39:28our first knockout stage in the books.
- 39:30I appreciate you, bro. And I think, like you said,
- 39:32we're just getting warmed up. This is the internet's premier
- 39:36changing show. Even if you can't see us, you
- 39:38got to trust us on that. With that said, I appreciate
- 39:42you. And that's it.
- 39:45Very clunky dismount. And I appreciate you for for for
- 39:48for give. Show me some grace on that as
- 39:49well. This chat is this chat of this
- 39:51sidebar chat. Extremely, you know,
- 39:53distracting. But let me stop making excuses.
- 39:56No, it's all right. You know, there are
- 39:57explanations, not excuses. We're, we're, we're doing this.
- 40:00We're making it. We're making it through.
- 40:02I appreciate you. Likewise, I think is typically
- 40:05what I like to say clunky dismount or not.
- 40:08Thank you everybody for hanging out with us.
- 40:10We will see you all next time. That's how it goes, right?