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168: Win The Hunger Games...with Cookies · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: That works.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, so we'll have to go to the other Alan. So, Alan,
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  Speaker 10: I ask you, what blend of coffee are we drinking
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  Speaker 10: this week?
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  Speaker 8: We are apparently drinking Rwanda, as I was told.
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  Speaker 1: You still don't believe me, do you? Nobody's going to convince.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're fact-checking Brian on it, now you're like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm told.
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  Speaker 5: word on it because you are A. Allen. A.
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  Speaker 4: Allen.
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  Speaker 8: Does that mean Allen with an A?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 8: Because otherwise that would just.
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  Speaker 7: Be improper grammar.
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  Speaker 1: Are there Allens with two A's like Aaron's?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure somewhere out there.
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  Speaker 4: A-L-L-A-A-M?
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  Speaker 5: There is some.
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  Speaker 1: I knew a guy named Aaron with the two A's,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, there's this other Aaron with three A's.
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  Speaker 1: If I can't handle something, they get the other Aaron.
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  Speaker 5: People and their trendy, trendy names.
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  Speaker 4: The Alon would be better with one L than two A's. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's true. I'm disappointed.
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  Speaker 5: How about an O? Can we get an O in there?
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  Speaker 5: Can I buy a bow? Hold on. Okay, so before
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  Speaker 5: we get too.
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  Speaker 10: Far into our other shenanigans, we do, as you heard,
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  Speaker 10: have Dave here, which if you remember, he was here
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  Speaker 10: back when we did our Creature from the Black Lagoon discussion,
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  Speaker 10: which was pretty awesome, if I might say so myself.
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  Speaker 10: So as we mentioned then, you had worked with Wonderfest.
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  Speaker 10: I was going to give you a little opportunity to
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  Speaker 10: tell people.
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  Speaker 5: You said you had some new updates on this one?
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  Speaker 11: And new updates for our show, which takes place Memorial
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  Speaker 11: Day weekend in May. Confirming some new guests. Bill Mosley
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  Speaker 11: is going to make it this year.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome.
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  Speaker 11: We're pretty happy about that.
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  Speaker 5: He's an insane person.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill's a lot of fun. Busy man. Busy man. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: yes he is.
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  Speaker 11: And speaking of Creature from the Black Lagoon, Julie Adams
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  Speaker 11: is going to be back with us. She just wrote
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  Speaker 11: a book about her career, and she's going to be
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  Speaker 11: here with her son promoting the book.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome.
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  Speaker 5: We can go tell her what we thought of her
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  Speaker 5: as a hot 50s chick.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, she's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And get kicked out?
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  Speaker 5: And probably get kicked out, because she'll be creeped out
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  Speaker 5: by us.
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  Speaker 11: And since part of what we're celebrating this year is
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  Speaker 11: the 30th anniversary of the summer of 82, which is
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  Speaker 11: kind of the biggest genre summer as far as movies
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  Speaker 11: go in history, So many cool movies came out that summer,
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  Speaker 11: Blade Runner, E.T., Star Trek II, just tons of.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff, Poltergeist.
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  Speaker 11: Everybody's doing a Blade Runner theme this year in the
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  Speaker 11: show world, but we managed to get Joanna Cassidy, who
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  Speaker 11: has never done a show before. She was Zora, sort
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  Speaker 11: of the trained assassin replicant.
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  Speaker 4: In that film.
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  Speaker 5: More importantly, from Hoot Frame, Roger Rabbit.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I think Missy will be way more excited about that.
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  Speaker 11: So she's really cool.
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  Speaker 4: She's excited.
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  Speaker 11: It's her first show, so we're going to be very
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  Speaker 11: happy to have her here. And a number of other
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  Speaker 11: people kind of associated with films from that summer. But
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  Speaker 11: we're still working on the guest list, so we'll be
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  Speaker 11: updating as we go.
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  Speaker 4: Cool.
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  Speaker 10: We are kind of working with Dave and everybody over
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  Speaker 10: at Wonderfest. I'm going to try to head over there.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, we've been there every year there's been a show.
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  Speaker 5: I've been there every year. in my adult life, I think.
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  Speaker 5: So to me, it's no big deal.
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  Speaker 10: I'm always there, but I do want to try to
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  Speaker 10: work in some cool stuff this year at the show.
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  Speaker 10: So we're going to try to do at least an
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  Speaker 10: episode or two from out there amongst the, uh, goings
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  Speaker 10: on there.
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  Speaker 7: It should be fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. All right.
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  Speaker 10: Um, before we, uh, this one's sort of a free
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  Speaker 10: for all I'm thinking it's, we've got some interesting, what's
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  Speaker 10: the buzz stuff. And I figure everybody's always got our,
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  Speaker 10: our sort of geek activities.
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  Speaker 5: So, We'll just throw them all in.
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  Speaker 7: Groovy.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: What's the buzz?
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  Speaker 5: Tell me what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: What's the buzz?
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  Speaker 5: Tell me what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: What's the buzz?
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  Speaker 10: We'll start with what's the buzz, but the first one
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  Speaker 10: has a crossover into geek activities for at least two,
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  Speaker 10: maybe three of us.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: So we'll start off with geek activity for me. I
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  Speaker 10: saw The Hunger Games this week. I know Alan did.
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  Speaker 8: I did, right before coming.
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  Speaker 5: It's great. So to put it in perspective.
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  Speaker 10: I've got my Hunger Games dog tags on here with
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  Speaker 10: future guests of the show, Jennifer Lawrence.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still working on that, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: She'll be on the show.
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  Speaker 5: She'll be on the show, because we're best friends.
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  Speaker 10: And if nothing else, I mean, the main thing, the
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  Speaker 10: reason it was, like, I brought it up first thing
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  Speaker 10: that came up on the news, is Hunger Games kills
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  Speaker 10: with the fifth best opening date ever, which is pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 10: It's the third best opening weekend ever. It's right behind, like,
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  Speaker 10: Dark Knight, so it's It's making huge money for something
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  Speaker 10: that was, you know, still a lot of people weren't
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  Speaker 10: sure what was going to happen to it and weren't
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  Speaker 10: sure what was going to become of this transferring the
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  Speaker 10: book into the movie. So I thought we'd throw it
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  Speaker 10: out there and see what, I guess without spoiling things,
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  Speaker 10: since it's so new, I was just going to go
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  Speaker 10: with overall feelings for at least the few of us
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  Speaker 10: that have seen it, if nobody else has.
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  Speaker 8: Everybody's looking at me all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you've seen it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I kind of went into it thinking if the
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  Speaker 8: direction's okay and the acting's not too bad and the
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  Speaker 8: script isn't too bad, at best I can expect maybe
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  Speaker 8: just something entertaining to watch, big dumb fun on the
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  Speaker 8: big screen. And I was actually really surprised how much
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  Speaker 8: could actually be gotten out of it. There was a
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  Speaker 8: lot more depth than I anticipated with the whole commentary
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  Speaker 8: on the reality show thing as well as the defiance
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  Speaker 8: of authority.
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  Speaker 9: Just.
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  Speaker 8: there was a lot more to it and they, they,
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  Speaker 8: they were able to avoid being overly melodramatic, except one really, really.
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  Speaker 7: Sweet.
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  Speaker 8: I can't say what it.
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  Speaker 10: Is, but yeah, I mean, there's a couple of moments, but, but,
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  Speaker 10: but I mean, that kind of needs to be there.
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  Speaker 5: Really? That's the book.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Really overdone.
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  Speaker 8: But then it was immediately followed by, I thought the
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  Speaker 8: best scene in the movie. Um, but are we on
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  Speaker 8: the same page? I mean, we were thinking of completely
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  Speaker 8: different things, but.
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  Speaker 4: Um, Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 5: We can come back to it later.
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  Speaker 8: I was surprisingly satisfied with it.
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  Speaker 7: Very much looking forward to the sequel.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I went in, yeah, pretty unsure. Just kind of
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  Speaker 5: going to go see, you know, because... Half of it
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  Speaker 5: because I wanted to see what Jennifer Lawrence was doing.
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  Speaker 5: Number one, I'll give her credit. She turned in a
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  Speaker 5: great performance.
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  Speaker 10: Like, that could have gone really badly, and I think she...
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  Speaker 10: She makes it work. And I think one of the
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  Speaker 10: things I was so impressed with, and it's been compared
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  Speaker 10: a lot to, aside from the other thing I'll get to,
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  Speaker 10: it's compared a lot, because of the novel, it gets
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  Speaker 10: compared a lot to Twilight. So I'm sitting there the
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  Speaker 10: whole time looking at this going, okay, this is the anti-Twilight.
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  Speaker 10: If ever there's a strong female lead that you can
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  Speaker 10: get behind who's fucking in charge of every scene, I mean,
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  Speaker 10: that scene at the beginning when she's talking to her mother,
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  Speaker 10: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great scene.
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  Speaker 10: It's something you could have seen in a weird little
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  Speaker 10: indie movie that just happens to be in this huge
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  Speaker 10: big budget movie. Her acting is still that strong that
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  Speaker 10: it's not getting watered down by the massive amounts of
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  Speaker 10: millions of dollars being thrown at it. I think she's
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  Speaker 10: still delivering really good performances. That was my other thing,
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  Speaker 10: is just having a story out there that is aimed
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  Speaker 10: at young adults and has a female lead.
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  Speaker 5: And is not a moron. It's not a complete you know,
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  Speaker 5: vapid waste of space.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I think the fact that she is very
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  Speaker 10: strong and very driven and smart, you know.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, that's, that's a good thing to have.
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  Speaker 10: Like, even if you'd hate the movie, having that kind
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  Speaker 10: of main character is, is kind of a nice thing
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  Speaker 10: to throw into our society at this point. So yeah,
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  Speaker 10: amongst the Twilight nonsense, I kind of like having her
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  Speaker 10: as a character.
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  Speaker 5: If nothing else.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we got, we got a trailer for the last
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  Speaker 8: Twilight movie.
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  Speaker 4: Before the movie.
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  Speaker 5: Did people boo it?
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  Speaker 8: No, I was with, well, see, sitting behind me was
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  Speaker 8: a group of teenage girls, and they were talking about Twilight,
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  Speaker 8: and then I went up to go to the bathroom
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  Speaker 8: before the movie started, and my seat had been taken,
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  Speaker 8: so I went to another seat with another group of
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  Speaker 8: teenage girls behind me, and they started talking about Twilight, too.
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  Speaker 8: And how much they loved popcorn.
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  Speaker 5: Well, now that I can get on board with. Who
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  Speaker 5: doesn't like popcorn?
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  Speaker 9: Were they, like, for it or against it?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they were excited.
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  Speaker 8: They were talking about, I wonder how they're going to
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  Speaker 8: do this in the movie.
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  Speaker 5: I thought you meant popcorn. Yeah, they were pro-popcorn.
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  Speaker 1: How did they.
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  Speaker 5: Feel about that popcorn? That's a campaign I can get
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  Speaker 5: on board with, pro-popcorn.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the opposite of Twilight? Would that be
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  Speaker 1: like early morning.
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  Speaker 1: There's not even a word for it. Dawn.
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  Speaker 5: Teenagers killing each other? I think that's... I.
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  Speaker 8: Will say for Twilight, though, like when I... I did
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  Speaker 8: see the first movie, and I laughed so hard that
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  Speaker 8: I could not wait to see the second one.
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  Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Just for all the wrong reasons.
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  Speaker 10: I've watched the first three and made fun of them.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't get to the third one yet, but I
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  Speaker 8: wouldn't be opposed to it just because.
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  Speaker 4: It is so bad.
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  Speaker 10: I decided I wasn't going to be one of those
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  Speaker 10: douchebags who talks shit about it and has never watched it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm just like, if I'm going to make fun
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  Speaker 5: of it, I want to have material to make fun of.
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  Speaker 8: I love to hate it because I read the books
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  Speaker 8: as well. I have six sisters, and it was before...
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  Speaker 8: Before it was cool.
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  Speaker 5: Before it was cool.
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  Speaker 8: So it was written by a Mormon, and growing up
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  Speaker 8: with a Mormon upbringing myself, I'm getting all this wonderful
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  Speaker 8: anti-feminist stuff, but without knowing it, because that's how Mormonism
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  Speaker 8: treats their women. They're second class, but they're made to
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  Speaker 8: think that they're not, that it's okay. It's all over
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  Speaker 8: the books, and it's great.
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  Speaker 10: The other things I was going to say, the other
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  Speaker 10: main thing that they constantly bring up, and you can't
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  Speaker 10: argue the similarity to Battle Royale, so I will try
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  Speaker 10: not to compare it, because again, they're different movies, they're
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  Speaker 10: different stories.
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  Speaker 5: It's different. But I'll give kind of compare and contrast
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  Speaker 5: as to who does what. I mean, watching the violent...
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  Speaker 5: And again, for being PG-13, it's pretty violent.
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  Speaker 10: And they get away with a good amount of realism
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  Speaker 10: for something that could have been drawn back even more.
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  Speaker 8: I really liked how they dealt with that, because I
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  Speaker 8: was thinking this would be better as an R-rated movie,
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  Speaker 8: but they obviously can't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Not for the money.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: But for what they were working with, I think it
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  Speaker 10: doesn't suffer much.
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  Speaker 5: But by the end of it, I think, again, not
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  Speaker 5: so much the violent, it's just the way that they
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  Speaker 5: wrap it up.
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  Speaker 10: I think the end, the big finale, I think is
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  Speaker 10: something she might have referred to it as. That little
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  Speaker 10: move at the end seemed kind of cheap, and I
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  Speaker 10: would have liked to have seen more just flat-out, cold-hearted
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  Speaker 10: kids attacking each other kind of thing.
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  Speaker 5: Like, And they sort of pull away at that midway in.
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  Speaker 10: The first half's pretty hardcore, and then they get kind
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  Speaker 10: of caught up in the story, and I think that
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  Speaker 10: sort of suffers. Whereas Battle Royale is badass, and is
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  Speaker 10: definitely way more hardcore. Not just the violence, because they
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  Speaker 10: can be R, but just the mean streak that runs
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  Speaker 10: through it. The hardcore way that the kids treat each other,
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  Speaker 10: the hardcore way that the deaths come about, the cruel
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  Speaker 10: reality of the death.
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  Speaker 5: Everything about Battle Royale is just.
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  Speaker 10: fucking mean you know it's just there's no nice side
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  Speaker 10: to it where this i don't know it seems like
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  Speaker 10: it pulls back in order to give it the you
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  Speaker 10: know proper novel ending that it had i think it
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  Speaker 10: pulls back a little bit on that so that was
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  Speaker 10: the only thing but again i kind of expected i
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  Speaker 10: it still delivered more than i expected even in that
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  Speaker 10: area the other thing i was going to say the
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  Speaker 10: thing that i think.
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  Speaker 5: It does better is um Battle Royale really doesn't go
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  Speaker 5: much into the future world.
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  Speaker 10: Like, all you get is the battle and the kids,
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  Speaker 10: and it does a lot better job fleshing out the
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  Speaker 10: characters in Battle Royale. You get to know a lot
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  Speaker 10: of those kids for as huge cast that it has.
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  Speaker 10: It still makes it possible to get to know a
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  Speaker 10: lot of these. Where this one, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 10: kids you don't even know who they are. You don't
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  Speaker 10: really care on a lot of them.
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  Speaker 5: So, what I think it did better is that future world,
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  Speaker 5: that dystopia that exists in this, is amazing. Like, they...
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  Speaker 5: put a lot of time and a lot of money.
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  Speaker 10: You can see the grand scale that they made everything,
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  Speaker 10: and they also worked out, and again, a lot of
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  Speaker 10: that is the book, but you get a good portion
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  Speaker 10: of this movie that is just world building and character
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  Speaker 10: building before you even get to the battle.
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  Speaker 5: Which is not what I expected.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's kind of rare these days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and totally different than Battle Royale.
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  Speaker 10: Battle Royale, much like the kids, you're just thrown into it,
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  Speaker 10: and you get little glimpses of the the TV coverage
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  Speaker 10: and that kind of stuff. But even that, even at
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  Speaker 10: the time when I saw it, I was like, they
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  Speaker 10: could have done more with that, really. They could have
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  Speaker 10: made fun of the, it still, at that point when
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  Speaker 10: they made it, reality television still wasn't as rampant as
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  Speaker 10: it is today. But they could have done more with
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  Speaker 10: that even at the time of Battle Royale, where this one,
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  Speaker 10: they don't disappoint. They deliver this whole messed up future
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  Speaker 10: world and you get a pretty good picture of what
• 14:53
  Speaker 10: it is. And they do, to me, what it was
• 14:55
  Speaker 10: closest to, Death Race 2000.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: That world building.
• 14:59
  Speaker 11: It sounds kind of like Death Race and kind of
• 15:01
  Speaker 11: like Rollerball.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:02
  Speaker 11: Because it kind of puts it within the context of
• 15:03
  Speaker 11: that culture, too.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Which I like.
• 15:05
  Speaker 11: It sounds like I would enjoy that a lot, the
• 15:07
  Speaker 11: satirical aspect.
• 15:08
  Speaker 10: I love Death Race 2000. So to me, it's got that...
• 15:11
  Speaker 10: It doesn't take it as hammy. You know, Death Race
• 15:14
  Speaker 10: has a lot of fun, and it knows how goofy
• 15:16
  Speaker 10: it is. Where this one, it's got the satire, but
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: it doesn't ham it up so much that it's making
• 15:20
  Speaker 10: fun of itself. So, yeah, I was impressed with that. So,
• 15:25
  Speaker 10: if nothing else, yeah, I say... That's just sort of
• 15:29
  Speaker 10: the overall. It doesn't really spoil anything. I say it's
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: worth seeing.
• 15:31
  Speaker 11: If American popular culture is going to be driven by
• 15:34
  Speaker 11: whatever 14-year-olds are reading, as it has been for years,
• 15:37
  Speaker 11: then this sounds like a pretty good source material. Maybe
• 15:40
  Speaker 11: they'll learn something from it.
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: I'm curious what's next, because after Harry Potter started petering out,
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: then Twilight came, and now Hunger Games.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: So what's next?
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: It's getting smarter. Maybe. That's, yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, two out of three haven't been bad, really.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, Harry Potter's been smart for the most part.
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: The Harry Potter movies got consistently better, I thought.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Definitely.
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: Pretty fantastic, I thought. Yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: So, I guess, you know, we can leave it at that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 10: But I was just kind of amazed at how well
• 16:09
  Speaker 10: it did at the box office and then just kind
• 16:12
  Speaker 10: of interested to see what they did with it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Let me ask this.
• 16:16
  Speaker 14: I mean, it was just, like, this last week or
• 16:20
  Speaker 14: the previous week that battle royale is now released finally
• 16:24
  Speaker 14: in the united states does that coincide with hey if
• 16:27
  Speaker 14: they can get away with that we can get away.
• 16:29
  Speaker 11: With i'm sure it was definitely planned yeah i.
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: Think i mean i know timing wise it had to
• 16:33
  Speaker 10: be planned but even then i'm sure they had to
• 16:35
  Speaker 10: start working on that a long time ago and when
• 16:37
  Speaker 10: they saw that the book got optioned to make a
• 16:40
  Speaker 10: movie they went oh well we've we've greased the wheels
• 16:42
  Speaker 10: now if people are okay with these kids killing each
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: other right The R-rated crowd will be okay with this
• 16:48
  Speaker 10: being in the American audience.
• 16:50
  Speaker 14: Two years ago, I remember thinking, and maybe even listening
• 16:54
  Speaker 14: to the episode, saying, oh, this will never get released
• 16:59
  Speaker 14: here because so many people would put a stop to it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 14: Now it's like, I see parents with younger children encouraging
• 17:08
  Speaker 14: their kids to read it because, hey, I've read Harry Potter,
• 17:11
  Speaker 14: what's next? Or something like that. And it's just so
• 17:15
  Speaker 14: universally accepted. And there's a lot of, I've read 75,
• 17:18
  Speaker 14: 80% of The Hunger Games, the first one. And so,
• 17:22
  Speaker 14: you know, I was impressed with the world building, how
• 17:25
  Speaker 14: succinctly they were able to do that in the book
• 17:28
  Speaker 14: as well. And within the first chapter, they give you
• 17:30
  Speaker 14: a really good idea of the feel of this world.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: And I was hoping that they'd do that in the movie.
• 17:36
  Speaker 14: But just how quickly and how easily, you know, soccer
• 17:40
  Speaker 14: moms are willing to, say, hey, read this, or watch this.
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: I feel like that was one of the things sort
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: of satirized in the movie. There was a scene in
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: the world where this dad gives his son this toy sword,
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: and he goes chasing around his sister, and the dad's
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: just laughing, and the sword looks real. It's like this
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: is kind of satirizing itself. I thought that was pretty great.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: It's satirizing their own world. It's kind of satirizing our world, too.
• 18:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was thinking that too, like as I sat
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: in the theater, the people in front of me were
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: soccer mom and like eight, maybe 10 year olds. I mean,
• 18:19
  Speaker 10: there were two kids there with them that, and maybe more,
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: I think some of them might've been sitting somewhere else,
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: but they were all pretty young. And I was just like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: at first I was like, what are these kids doing here?
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: And then I went, oh, well, it is a young
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: adult book. And then by the end of it, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 10: was talking with somebody else who'd read the books and
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: we were talking about it. And I was just like, well, Hell,
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: the kids are reading. I mean, as much as I
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: could care less about reading, it's good to encourage children
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: to do so. If that's what they want to read,
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't stop my kid from reading.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, go to town. If you want to
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: read it, read it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: There's just as much death in Harry Potter as there
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: is in that. I mean, Harry Potter is bloody. Bloody.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And even when you think about.
• 19:02
  Speaker 14: C.S.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Lewis' Narnia, there's a lot of death in that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: A lot of death.
• 19:06
  Speaker 14: And that's a kid's book. I mean, I started reading
• 19:09
  Speaker 14: that to my daughter when she was three.
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I have a friend, I think her son was 11,
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: and they went to see Hunger Games yesterday. He was
• 19:18
  Speaker 11: a little disturbed by some of it, but he's a
• 19:20
  Speaker 11: pretty sensitive kid. I pointed out, you know, I was
• 19:22
  Speaker 11: watching Jaws when I was 11.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: It's PG.
• 19:25
  Speaker 11: It's PG. It was the first movie that had that
• 19:28
  Speaker 11: little warning about it may be too intense for younger children.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: But it was PG.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Back at a time when we didn't worry about that stuff.
• 19:33
  Speaker 11: It has severed heads and severed legs and blood everywhere.
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: It's because they wanted the money. And it didn't damage
• 19:39
  Speaker 11: me too badly.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I watched nothing but R-rated stuff on cable.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Look out. Oh, wait.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I'm not a good example. So, but yeah, it's definitely
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: worth seeing. Love it for, you know, even if you're mediocre. It's,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I think, worth seeing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: And I'm glad to see this get that kind of
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: opening versus something stupid like Twilight.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: So, moving on.
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: We had a few interesting news items thrown at us
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: this past week that I wanted to see. If you
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: wanted to go ahead and just rant on them, First
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: of all, James posted the Michael Bay thing about Teenage
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: Mutant Ninja Turtles.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Would you like to go off on that, Greg? I think... Wait,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: excuse me. Teenage Mutant Alien Turtles?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Alien Turtles. Yeah, I think you were prepared for me
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: to go off on that. Yes.
• 20:25
  Speaker 14: It's Michael Bay. I don't really give a shit at
• 20:29
  Speaker 14: this point. If he wants to make it and if
• 20:33
  Speaker 14: it's entertaining, fine. I mean, not fine, but fine.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 14: And again, I wasn't a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles aficionado.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I thought the show was kind of cool. I was
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: a little bit older. at the time. I was too.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: It didn't stop me from watching it every time.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: They were cool. It was a good show.
• 20:53
  Speaker 14: It was probably the first comic book that I was like,
• 20:56
  Speaker 14: I'm going to read that comic book.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I did subscribe to Teenage Mutant Turtle Aficionado magazine, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't read all the articles.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: You're just there for the fold-outs of Donatello.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: It kind of.
• 21:14
  Speaker 14: Ruins the whole idea of what it's based on if
• 21:18
  Speaker 14: you're not mutants. It's like saying the X-Men aren't mutants.
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: It's a reinvention.
• 21:24
  Speaker 14: He's going to remake the movie, but they're going to.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Be aliens and not mutants.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: That destroys the whole.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Misty had the best comment about it. If you take
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: the M out of T.M.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: N-T.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: N-T, then you just have T-N-T, which is just.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Stuff blowing up. Which is exactly what Michael Bay wanted.
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: That was Misty for you. But yeah, that's the same
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: thing I said online. Michael Bay's so stupid, he doesn't
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: know what that M stands for in the little abbreviation.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Now, if he gets.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It is, kind of.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: If he gets Corey.
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: to do don't tell his voice oh there you go
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: i might be okay with it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Uh cory wasn't even in there for one of the
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: movies so was it the second one the second one
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: i think he disappeared on but he came back for
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the third one because he was.
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: Hard up for money rehab yeah drugs whatever so yeah
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: well first of all as you go into the story
• 22:25
  Speaker 15: he's not even directing it he's just producing which is
• 22:28
  Speaker 15: probably a good thing actually because at least it won't.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Have that look.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: You mean stuff just being randomly thrown in your face.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: And constant moving so you don't really know what the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: hell's going on. Yeah, all of that stuff. So, yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: he says, well, first of all, his response to all
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: the massive geek uprising on the Internet is, quote, fans
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: need to take a breath and chill. Man, that guy's
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: a thinker. I tell you, he's a smart one.
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, director Jonathan Lisman says, who did Battle of
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: Los Angeles and Wrath.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Of the Titans.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: This is not any better.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Let's go back to Michael Bay directing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I hadn't read that far into it. He said he'll
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: actually be directing and taking the, let's see, will be
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: directing the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, following up his
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: comments saying that the canisters where the ooze comes from,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: that is alien ooze. So they will be alien mutants
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: or some nonsense.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: It's just like, doesn't that fix everything?
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: I think, once again, and this is what I was
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: saying when I posted it online for you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I was like, it's the same things as the Transformers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: It's not that he's worried about those little details because
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: he doesn't care. He does not care what it is
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: he's doing as long as he gets to do what he.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: He is an auteur. He will do whatever the hell
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: he wants to get his finished product. And it doesn't mean...
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: It's good.
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: It doesn't mean anybody else has to like it as
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: long as he likes it. And it's really our own
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: fault because last time we gave him.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: What, $ 250 million for that movie?
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: I mean, we made it a number one movie for
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: several weeks there. So it's kind of our own fault
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: that he keeps making this crap.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: But again, that's how you get metal balls on robots.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Just wait for Michelangelo's. Turtle balls. Oh, God.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: If they don't eat pizza, I might riot.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: They all get sushi now. So, let's see. The next one,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: let's see.
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: We had sent over, this is from John, and John,
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: the quote on it is actually, this should make Fred
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: happy from your stalker fan. So, John seems to like
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: your take on things.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: The story is.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I get that a lot, not really.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw the story. It's pretty fun.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Paramount Pictures and two of the producers of Rise of
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: the Planet of the Apes are collaborating on a new
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: project called Huck, which seems to be a reinvention on
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Mark Twain's famous characters Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer.
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: What exactly the new story will be about is currently
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: unknown except that it's being compared to Snow White and
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: the Huntsman and will have supernatural.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Elements in quotation marks.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It will have supernatural elements in quotation marks.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: In quotation marks.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Supernatural.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe in parentheses.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: No, no. Quotations. Oh, okay. So, yeah, I didn't know
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: if you had any response to that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: That's total bullshit.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Look, Tom, it's a g-g-g-ghost!
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: I'm waiting to see if they turn it into a
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: Scooby episode or something.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I thought that was pretty damn entertaining.
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: No, I had not heard of that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: You're going to keep it that? Huck?
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: That's what they've got it now.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: It reminds me of this upcoming movie I heard about
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: called Pan, because of the retelling of Peter Pan, where
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: Peter Pan is actually.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: I guess it's keeping the mythological supernatural thing, but he
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: actually kidnaps the kids, uh, to never, never land. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: hook is actually a police captain. So captain played to
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: be played by Aaron Eckhart, who is trying to bring
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: Pam to justice.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So what they could do is make it captain Hawk
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and Huckleberry Finn could be this. I don't know.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: A robot from the mutant future. Wait, hold on. We're
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: mixing all this up.
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: Oh Lord.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: So, Hopefully they'll put JTT in.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: The middle of it and it'll be a classic.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: It'll be great.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: So, let's see. The next one here we.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Is he still a thing? I mean, is he still.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: He's in hiding, I think. He's just tired of all
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: this bullshit.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I would be, too. It's like, I never should have
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: left Home Improvement. Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: He can go on the new show with the.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Which is Home Improvement.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Home Improvement in a.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: In a package.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, in a.
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: wilderness store or whatever the hell he's doing now. It
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: actually is damn near the same show.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Tim Allen?
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: I've seen one episode and it's like almost exactly the
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: same cookie cutter scenario. Like he has like a web
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: show now where he's in front of like a green
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: screen and he's doing.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I was like, it's tool time. Only he's in a wilderness,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: you know, supply store.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Instead of a tools themed show.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: Are they going to John Fogarty him and sue him?
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: They should. Yeah. tim allen you are too much like
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: tim allen please stop no really please stop and.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I think it even has the same canned laughter.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: That's just about dead and it needs to do they.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: Still have the wife and the three sons.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Now he has daughters three daughters he's got a wife totally.
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: She's a wisecracking wife and she's got i think it
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: is three daughters if not two i think it's three is.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: There a wilson That guy's dead now.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: A friend of mine.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Worked in the laughter canneries in Alaska one season. He
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: said it was just rooms full of giggling Eskimos. You
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: go up there and you make some money, and then
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: he traveled. He liked to travel.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Moving on.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, Imagine Entertainment has.
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: entered into negotiations trying to get a Salvador Dali biopic made.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Another one?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I don't... Well, I mean, this is the one they've
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: been trying to get going for a while now, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: I really... The only.
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: Thing I have to say is, after last year, how
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: can you not cast Adrian Brody?
• 28:50
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I know.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was so damn entertaining in that few
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: minutes on screen.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: He did the best thing, I thought.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: He did that, didn't you? Yeah, I did.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I was just going to write it, not the point
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I just... I expected it to be a bigger thing.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It was just like a regular Woody Allen movie.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: I thought all the performances of those characters were really good.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I thought What's-His-Name was fine as a Woody Allen stand-in.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: He was pretty good, actually. I loved the.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: Guy who played Hemingway. I was kind of upset when
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: he didn't get an Oscar nomination.
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: I thought all those characters were pretty good. In hearing this,
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: there's not really a whole lot of other. I just
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: thought that was funny because they don't mention that at all.
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: I'm just like, somebody's got to be on board with this.
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: They need to tie this in or something.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Just don't let Woody write it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: Did anybody see Little Ashes?
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: No.
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: I'm just curious.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: I'm just curious how Robert Pattinson was as Dolly. Because
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: it didn't really make sense to me.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I think I blocked that out. I forgot about that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a big fan of Dolly, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I saw a show with some of his early work
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that I was less familiar with. He was freaking good.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: I love Dolly.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: What a great painter.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I even like his more.
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: ridiculously over publicized stuff but yeah he's he's an amazing
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: guy and and started out very traditional and was good
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: at it yeah he's very and then yeah he's i
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: don't know he's he's a weird and amazing guy so
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: it'd be nice if they did a good movie of him.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Well i saw that show that's uh it was like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: picasso miro and dolly and it was from the period
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: when they sort of knew each other's early work for
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a mostly for all of them yeah and uh the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the dolly stuff was fantastic and i guess i hadn't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: uh been exposed to the earlier i guess the later
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: stuff seems a little i don't know something to me
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it's not that i i didn't have any it's not
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that i hated him or anything i was just really
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: surprised How much I liked some of the early stuff.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: He just gets so into his own style that by
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: the end he's repeating himself.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Everything's a cliche of his own work by the time
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: he's old.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: He almost does a kind of Nicolas Cage thing. He
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: starts being himself more than he needs to be.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Definitely, yeah. That's pretty accurate, actually.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Has the money to take more drugs.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: But God, let's not.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I hope.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I hope Nicolas Cage doesn't get involved in this project
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: now that I've said that. Yeah, imagine that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: But they'll have somebody else play Nicolas Cage. Yeah. If
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: I remember how this... Okay.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Adrian Brody will play Nicolas Cage.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: That'd be interesting, actually. I could see that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: My favorite thing Nicolas Cage has ever said, ever, is
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: it has to be from Raising Arizona, which is probably
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: his best movie ever.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Pretty much, yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: But he goes, what? We've got ourselves a family here.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: There's just something so hilarious.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: He's like, are you kidding me?
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the delivery. We've got ourselves a family here. The delivery.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: I just thought that was so adorable. And if I
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: ever have children and my husband does not say that
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: the minute I give birth, we're getting divorced.
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: You might want to put that on a note somewhere
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: and make sure he knows.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: It's recorded.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: He better be a listener then, because you're in trouble otherwise.
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: I like the touch that he has to run in
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: and start the record player, the home on the range record.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I could talk about that movie for days.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Mine is a little fun, though.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: I read the other day about how Nicolas Cage was
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: in the running to play Abraham Lincoln in Abraham Lincoln
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: Vampire Hunter.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: That would be awesome.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: I'm just trying to imagine that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Do we talk about him every episode?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I think we do. He's fun. You can't not talk
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: about him.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: He existed at the time Abraham Lincoln was around.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: Maybe he wants to play him because he was a
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: personal friend.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: And he is a vampire.
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: That's why he's... It appeals to him on many levels.
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: It all ties together now. This one I just thought,
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: they never tire of this scenario. Gerard Butler signed on
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: with Millennium Pictures for an action film.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Called Olympus Has Fallen. He will star as a down-on-his-luck
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: ex-secret service agent who becomes America's only hope when 1600
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Pennsylvania Avenue is taken over by terrorists. And what is it?
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: Die Hard in the White House. Everything is an insert.
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: That's why you've got to give Die Hard credit. If
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: you can become that name of that movie and change
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: the variables, that's an important movie in cinema history.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: The thing that's bothering me is similar to that trend,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: but it's now.
• 33:31
  Speaker 14: I call it the Jason Bourne idea. Everyone is an
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: ex-Covert Ops, ex-CIA.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Well, I am.
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: That can kill anybody with their pinky. And what is
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: that new, I saw a preview for it, the new
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: Ashley Judd show.
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Where she all of a sudden is like.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: You don't mess with Ashley Judd.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Everybody's Jason Bourne.
• 33:59
  Speaker 16: Why is she the action flick person? You'd think she'd
• 34:05
  Speaker 16: be more suited for romantic comedies, but they always want
• 34:07
  Speaker 16: to put her in these action movies.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I'm getting my daughter back, damn it. That's pretty much
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: how she works.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 34:17
  Speaker 14: I'm just kind of sick of it. Everybody's trained more
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: than any Navy SEAL and.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Can take out everyone.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: It's like we have superheroes, but they're just... It's like
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: the CIA can create superheroes with a little bit of training.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: A little training.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Genetic engineering training. Isn't that what we do now?
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: If we have any of these guys, there should be
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: no bad guys left.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we've complained about how all vampires know... martial arts
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: but at least that's credible they've got so much free
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: time i mean i would have i would have got
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a black belt if i just had more you know
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: if i had a century or two to.
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: Kill here's what i don't understand why are all vampires
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: wealthy just because you've lived hundreds of years doesn't mean
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: you have more money let's.
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: Put it in the bank and you wait interest yeah
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: yeah not angel He used to eat rats.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: He was cold.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: He had a soul, though.
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: See, I was actually going to bring that up because
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: they come out of the ground just knowing martial arts.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: They don't have.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: That's true. I always called him out for that, which
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: was awesome. Like, it made for a good show. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, why are they all trained in Kung Fu?
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: Because the demons that infuse their... They know martial arts.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: They learned it in hell or wherever.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: They teach Kung Fu in hell now, don't they?
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: It's hell 101.
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: The hells in that show don't really seem like hell.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: That one was just farmland with green people.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: That sucks.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: There was that one that was just suburbia where you
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: do the same day.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Over and over again.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: That was pretty good. And then the thing we're too
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: hard on.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: We'll say that's the Groundhog Day factor. That's how you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: become wealthy is you watch the unloading of the the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Brink security truck every day and you figure out how
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to just, you know, pop in, pick up. Oh, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: came so close the other day to doing that scene
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: from Groundhog Day, but I missed it because I was
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: only living the day once.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: And I wasn't prepared.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: You just figured out that's how that goes?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I didn't have 22 shots.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was walking by Baxter's on Baxter Avenue. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: was walking my dog and as I walked by, the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: windows of the restaurant are open and there was like
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a pizza sitting on the table and there was a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: woman who was bending down to get something out of
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: her purse and as I went by it was just
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the perfect crime just to reach in grab the pizza
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and walk on and I would have been totally gone
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and around the corner but I didn't realize it until
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I was around the corner And so now it's my
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: life goal. Whenever I walk my dog, I walk by
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: those windows. One of these days, it's going to be
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: just in sync and I'm just going to reach. And
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: when she gets back.
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: It's like the pie cooling in the window.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It should be beautiful.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I thought you were like, it's going to be my
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: life's goal to get stuck in a groundhog day scenario.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Which, if you do, let us know.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: It didn't seem so awful. He became really good at
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: the piano.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. There were a lot of upsides
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: to that situation.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: You can learn martial arts that way. There you go.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: It can be like a vampire.
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: So, okay, this last one, because this movie comes up
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: every week, every other week, we talk about this a lot,
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: and this seems, yeah, we'll let you decide.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Mostly for you, Fred. Okay.
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: Universal Pictures has hired screenwriters David Elliott and Paul Lovett
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: to work.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: On Midnight Run 2.
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: Ah. Fun.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Will it be?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: Well, when you add this last part, it's currently in
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: talks with Brett Radner to direct.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: What? Brett Radner.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't I go to high school with him?
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Why didn't you kill him back then and save us all?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Because I dropped out.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: That's no excuse, really.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Stay in school, kids.
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: You wish you could go back and run all day.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Stay in school so you might be able to kill
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: somebody useful. Isn't that how high school works now?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You just kill people? Hey, we've got a public service
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: announcement on our hands.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Well, bring David Lynch in.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Kids, stay in school so you can kill somebody.
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: But check with us and make sure who. We want
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: to tell you which person. So, yeah, they're saying that
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: they're in talks, they're probably bringing De Niro back, but
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: Charles Grodin, who's basically retired from acting at this point,
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: isn't expected to return, maybe with a cameo, probably, because,
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: you know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Without him, it's kind of.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Well, first of all, even with them.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: With them, this much later... Yeah. I mean, I'm not
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: saying it's impossible, because they're both good actors, but... De
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Niro can step a little off. Yeah, De Niro can't... Well,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: but sometimes De Niro phones it in, too.
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: So with Brett Radner at the helm, that sounds like
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: a paycheck to me, so.
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: But it could be like a grumpy old man kind of.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: That could be funny.
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: And it could, yeah, it could be good with the
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: two of them, again, because they're both talented, but.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Brett Ratner.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: He'll do Beethoven 5, but he won't do.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: That was a while ago, though.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but still.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: I think since then he has sort of laid.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Off the acting.
• 39:32
  Speaker 14: He goes on David Letterman every other week.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I don't see him.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Is he still on?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I think he.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: It seems like every time I watch, he's on.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: That's because he's damn funny, so.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: That was most of the ridiculous ones, so I thought
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I'd throw.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: It out there, so.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I have something to mention.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Okay. Quickly.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Last time we mentioned our... I don't know if it
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: was Alan or Bo that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: He kind of looked longingly at the empty chair there.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He's missing, Bo.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: He's out of town. They talked about the David Lynch
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: coffee commercial.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: That was Bo.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I watched... I think Alan brought it on.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: The other Alan.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Alan.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And the Barbie head when he.
• 40:16
  Speaker 14: seven minutes of him talking to a Barbie head about,
• 40:19
  Speaker 14: it's really good. And it's, it's, you know, like the
• 40:23
  Speaker 14: first 10 seconds I was like, Oh, this is going
• 40:24
  Speaker 14: to get old if it's this for seven minutes.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, and I just found myself just watching
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: it more and more.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I know. Barbie really holds your attention. She's like Bruce
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Willis in Pulp Fiction where he's given him the speech
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: about pride and stuff. Barbie can command that kind of
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a scene.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's the tilt of the head that's holding
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: your attention.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And you can feel the tension in his hand. He's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: sort of twisting her or something. There's something going on there.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: Is this on YouTube?
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on YouTube.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's beautiful.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to pull it up. I went home
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: and watched it. I think I watched it like three times.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Because it's so simple.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So Barbie now has got like a couple of really
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: good acting credits. You know, she did that Karen Carpenter.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Superstar. Yeah, she did that.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And now she's worked with David Lynch.
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: Well, she's got a string of straight-to-DVD movies. If you
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: want to count that badly CG animated girl. But if
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: you just want the stop-motion, some weirdo holding it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, I forgot.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Like, the kids' cable channels do those Barbie movies, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: some of them are fascinatingly weird. I saw one in
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: a hotel room, and I couldn't look away.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: It was directed by David Lynch. What the fuck?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It was so crazy.
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: That was the funny thing, is how much money those made.
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: I remember those coming out, and, like, every week, those
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: moms would be in there loading up on them. Like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: this thing looks frightening, but here you go. Here she
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: is as whatever princess you're stealing from, you know. Every
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: fairy book princess she became at some point. And then
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: she was a doctor.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'd forgotten all about that.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Not a mathematician, because math is hard. Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but it's kind of disturbing. Well, not disturbing, but
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: it's disturbing that you watch it for that long.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: And you're okay with it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: And you're okay with it, yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Wait, she was also in Rango.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: She was in Toy Story.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: She was headless in Rango. Yeah, he was doing a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: scene with her and then he said, are those real?
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: She never answered, but she was headless.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Does add to the challenge.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Speaking of David Lynch, did anybody hear his music CD
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: he put out recently?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I heard that he has.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I've heard his older stuff and seen the videos. It's
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: pretty crazy, but is it similar?
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: Is this more stuff with Julie Cruz?
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: No, this is just.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: One.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: Song had Karen O of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: it's just him with weird synth stuff and a whole
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: lot of auto-tune. I enjoyed it, but I couldn't get...
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: threw the whole thing on one list because I started
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: to get really creeped out just hearing his auto-tuned voice
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: in my ear going on for eight minutes about dental hygiene.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: I was like, this is fascinating, but I need a break.
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: In life, David Lynch is best in probably seven-minute segments, really.
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: Those three hours of him in a row that he
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: keeps making up these movies, he needs to realize that's
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: too much Lynch at one time.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I enjoyed it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: You need to break it up a little bit.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but something special.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: He'll be in your ear whispering about it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: He totally changed.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, how about that guy?
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: It just keeps talking about it. He just promotes the coffee,
• 43:50
  Speaker 14: but anyway, yeah, you'll have to see it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It's different.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Interesting.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to buy his coffee, but...
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: If he wants.
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: To sponsor us. We can do an episode over at
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: David Lynch's house. We do wander around drinking coffee.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: So Has anybody, I'm sorry, this is way off topic.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: Has anybody seen the drunken history videos? It's like, it's, um,
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: I don't remember who does it, but they're all on
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: YouTube and they just, they get a history majors in
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: college and they get them really drunk and ask them
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: to tell stories. And then it's reenacted with, uh, uh, with,
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: you know, celebrities. And, um, there's one about Abraham Lincoln.
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: So just go to drunken history, Abraham Lincoln.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: It's the best thing.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: You'll ever see.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: It's funny there. Uh, My son sort of does a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: version of that. He goes to a friend's house and
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: their parents get drunk and argue about history. And he
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: comes home and tells us the story and apparently they
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: really do not know much about history. But they will
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: argue with his friend's older brother about Rome and they
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: have no idea what they're talking about. When Rome was
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: invaded by the Germans and My son will come home
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and tell us what the historical drunken argument was.
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: He just needs to start recording it. That's his own show.
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: I think so.
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: I think we've created some ideas for the best TV shows.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: Better than anything Hollywood's got.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: Each week we come up with more ridiculous and better
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: ideas than they ever really create.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Start a web series.
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: Except for Raising Hope. They come up with some of
• 45:31
  Speaker 14: the best shit on that show.
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  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: It's an awesome show.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: It's a very good show.
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  Speaker 14: All you non-TV watchers, just take the time to watch.
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  Speaker 7: Raising Hope once a week.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, Martha Plimpton, I just love her so much.
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  Speaker 5: I only watch about four or five shows, and that's
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  Speaker 5: one of them.
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  Speaker 10: So I've avoided most of the rest of the crap
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  Speaker 10: on television.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I think we should.
• 45:52
  Speaker 10: Take a break and come back with our other crazy
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  Speaker 10: stories of the week.
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  Speaker 8: Don't know much about history Don't know much biology.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know much about a science book.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know much about the French I took.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But I do know that I love you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 17: And I know that if you loved me too, what
• 46:19
  Speaker 17: a wonderful world this would be.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Don't know much about geography. Don't know much....
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Popcorn freshly popped and buttered look good sure it looks
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  Speaker 2: good and it tastes even better get some now.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Last year the reader's digest took you back to the
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  Speaker 3: golden days of tom sawyer now where tom sawyer ended
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  Speaker 3: huckleberry finn Mark Twain's greatest, most popular story filled with
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  Speaker 3: amazing adventures.
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  Speaker 17: Crazy characters. Laughter.
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  Speaker 1: This time they've gone too far.
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  Speaker 3: And excitement. Huckleberry Finn, starring Jeff East as.
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  Speaker 5: Sarah Williams.
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  Speaker 1: George Peterson.
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  Speaker 5: My real name's George Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Huckleberry. Mother.
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  Speaker 3: Paul Winfield as good old Jim.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Find anything?
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  Speaker 4: Nothing. Ain't nothing in there, but a dead man.
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  Speaker 3: Gary Merrill as mean old Pat.
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  Speaker 4: Rotten luck.
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  Speaker 5: Filthy rotten luck. The only kind of luck I ever had.
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  Speaker 3: Harvey Korman and David Wayne as those lovable scoundrels, the
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• 47:59
  Speaker 5: You're looking at royalty, you're looking at royalty.
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  Speaker 3: So take the whole family to watch the fun.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: The feuds.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to kill us some shamans tonight.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: The friendships.
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  Speaker 4: God bless you.
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  Speaker 5: No, you can never do too much on this show.
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  Speaker 17: You've finally found a place where you'll be.
• 50:27
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• 50:30
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  Speaker 4: All of life's.
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  Speaker 17: Riddles are.
• 50:41
  Speaker 18: Answered in the movies.
• 50:46
  Speaker 12: And now, on with the show. Drifting in wild life
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: And still you're.
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: Wondering now.
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  Speaker 18: We were only young And the world would have wanted
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  Speaker 11: We're beginning Going out to the.
• 51:25
  Speaker 17: Big screen I keep looking at this screen and wondering
• 51:42
  Speaker 17: what it must be like to direct a Flash Gordon episode.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: I wonder if there was ever any time in which
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: this was actually considered exciting. It's going to push each
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: other around.
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: Once when I was younger.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I liked The Rockman.
• 51:55
  Speaker 16: My first boyfriend's dad was obsessed with making us watch
• 52:00
  Speaker 16: Flesh Gordon, which I look back.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: That seems inappropriate for children.
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: I look back on it, it does seem kind of inappropriate.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, he was, like, obsessed.
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: He thought it was the funniest thing ever. He wasn't
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: a smart man. He wasn't a smart man. But he was, like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: obsessed with making.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Us watch that.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Making people watch Flash Gordon.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: That's almost child abuse. Yeah, there's... Change amounts to child abuse.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Now I feel awkward for even telling that story.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you should.
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: It's been on my radar.
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: Because my wife went over our phone to be, like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: two of them. smoke things that totally aren't illegal and
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: rent old porn.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: That's what makes a happy marriage.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: We watched Deep Throat, which was a lot of fun.
• 52:49
  Speaker 8: Debbie Does to Alice is a favorite.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Those were classy pictures.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: If the porn doesn't have enough plot, then I'm not pleased.
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: My favorite was Alice in Wonderland, the adult musical.
• 53:00
  Speaker 13: Nice.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: Where do you find these? Well, I don't really.
• 53:04
  Speaker 18: Okay.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: No.
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: Found us a collection of old erotic cartoons as well,
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: which was actually really exciting because we went to Paris
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: two summers ago and went to the Museum of Erotic Art,
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: which was the only museum we went to in Paris.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: I think you're doing it wrong.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure that's not how it goes when you
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: go to Paris.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: And on this one TV screen, they had just... vintage corn,
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: and there was this really crazy cartoon, and I found
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: this DVD collection of these things, of Wild and Wooly,
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: and it was very exciting.
• 53:38
  Speaker 14: I picture Fred, after hearing that, that's the only place
• 53:41
  Speaker 14: that you went, I picture Fred and his family going,
• 53:44
  Speaker 14: I pictured it smaller than that.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: I pictured it bigger.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a whole different conversation.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Now we know why she's smiling.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Got a point.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've seen the I think I may
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: have on VHS the collection of erotic cartoons.
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: The one specifically, because I was too far gone to remember,
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: Slimbo was this little guy named Ever Ready and his
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: penis kept falling off.
• 54:14
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: That sounds disturbing.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: It's more like a nightmare.
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: It was amazing.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: He does not seem Ever Ready at all.
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: It was Ever Ready Hard On.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think so. Not like that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: There is something charming about antique porn. You notice the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: people in it tend to be a little smilier and funnier.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I always think porn is sort of weird and depressing
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: if the people never laugh. You just can't relate to them.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: They have no sense of how funny it is.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: The creepy ones are.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: Well, no, what I realized is the silent era versions.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: And then watching it, I'm like, It's the same thing.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Nothing has changed.
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: In the silent era when they're all wearing their socks
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: in case they were raided so they could run. And
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: the guys are always wearing fake beards. It gets funny.
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: Things haven't changed in that department in a long, long time.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: It's pretty much the same.
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: Yesterday my boyfriend, for some reason, we weren't talking about
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: porn or watching porn. We were getting ready to go
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: play laser tag. And he goes, have you ever noticed
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: that people in porns are always wearing their shoes? And
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: I was like, No, I don't really watch porn.
• 55:24
  Speaker 11: The camera usually doesn't get down that far.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: That's not what they're focusing on.
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: Just in case there's a knock on the door.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Or you ever see the camera pan around and there
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: are people in the other room having lunch? That's great.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not even going to go any further.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Welcome to the porn podcast.
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: I'm sure that exists somewhere, though.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: There's plenty of them.
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: Does anybody else have other geek activities they would like
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: to go into?
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: Last night, my six-year-old woke up at 1.30 in the morning,
• 56:01
  Speaker 11: and we decided to watch Troll Hunter.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: So that was cool.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: That was really cool.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Had you seen it before?
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: Only parts of it. I'd never watched the whole film,
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: and she got into it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fun.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: I've heard the CG is pretty good for as low
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: budget as it is.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. It's fun. It's a great movie. It's fun.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, we're up from 1.30 to 3.30 watching Troll Hunter.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: Was mom okay with that?
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: She didn't know.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: That's what I thought. Sneaking the kid out.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: Anybody else?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like I had a backlog of stuff
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I've seen.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: That's why I figured this week we could throw it open.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But now this week that we're getting around to it,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I can't think of a fucking thing.
• 56:42
  Speaker 10: That's why I told you to hang on until last week.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I can think of a few things. We watched The
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Big Sleep the other night.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, awesome.
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: Did you understand it?
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: No, the whole plot thing, it just gets out of hand.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: And it's credited to Faulkner, but I think that's bullshit
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: because I know he never learned how to write for film.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Because he would write three pages of dialogue. Like somebody
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: would just talk for 20 minutes, and you can't do that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: But I remember he had said that he would see
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: lines of his appear in movies he'd never heard of.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: He was like, I wrote that somewhere in there. Like
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: they were just in the studio.
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: Cutting and pasting.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Before computers existed.
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: Good to have his name in the credits so they
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: just reach into the bag and pull out a good line.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I love the big sleeve, but it doesn't add up.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I read that Chandler was an oil executive. and decided
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to write mysteries when he was 45.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: It's never too late. There's hope. We can always Grandma
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Moses and turn things around. Yeah. Just keep hanging in there.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Someday you'll figure it out.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I've got to provide more cooling to the container.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: All righty, you do that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: I have something I could talk about if we want to,
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: but it's not urgent. So I got on kind of
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: this little Peter Greenaway kick. He did The Cook, the Thief,
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: His Wife, and Her Lover, which is one of my
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: favorite movies.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: Great movie.
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: So I rewatched a movie I'd seen years ago called
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: The Pillow Book.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: The Pillow Book.
• 58:17
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: It's basically about this Japanese woman who enjoys having men
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: write calligraphy on her. So she's trying to find the
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: perfect man who's equal parts calligrapher and lover.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: It's good to have a hobby.
• 58:30
  Speaker 11: Was it Ewan McGregor?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: He definitely gets all the way naked.
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: That may have been the last thing Greenaway got released.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: No, in 2007 he put out Nightwatching.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: See, I didn't see that.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: I haven't seen it yet either.
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: He literally went mad for a while. He was put away,
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: and then I think he came out and they put
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: one of his movies. I always loved his stuff.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:51
  Speaker 8: So I followed that up with another one of his films.
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: It's called A Zed and Two Knots.
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a cool movie.
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, about these two zoologists whose wives die, so they
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: become obsessed with decomposition, and they start just setting up
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: time-lapse videos of things.
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: Decomposing, and it's... They call me morbid when I.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: i.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: It's a it's it's a hobby what do.
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: You want so that's what i've been watching.
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: Well i saw um i don't know if any of
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: you guys are familiar with shut up little man No.
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: I heard about it when it very first hit the, which, again,
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: was only about three or four months.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Ago when it first sort of started hit the festival circuit.
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: And it's a documentary that basically it's like early 90s,
• 59:36
  Speaker 10: and these guys were from, I don't know, Midwest or somewhere,
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: and they decided, hey, let's move out to California, and
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: they were friends, so they're like, okay, let's both go.
• 59:44
  Speaker 10: They move out, I think, to San Francisco, and they
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: don't have any money, so they end up in this
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: terrible little apartment. and the usual paper-thin walls, and as
• 59:55
  Speaker 10: the lady's giving them the key after they've already decided
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: to take.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: The place, she's like, oh, and the neighbors next door,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: they can get kind of loud. Little did they know
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: what they were in for.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: Basically, these two people that live next door just screaming
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: at each other constantly. It's two guys, and all they
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: do is fight, and they're usually drunk most of the day.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: I don't know that either of them has a job.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: One definitely never leaves the house. The other one goes
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: out to buy liquor. And all they do is argue
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: and fight. And one of them seems sort of flamboyant.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: And his line is constantly to the other, Shut up,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: little man. Shut up, little man.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: That is his comeback to everything this man says. He
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: says it constantly. The other one seems.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: To be completely....
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 10: Homophobic perhaps he's constantly talking about and again this was
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 10: i'm surprised that his his word is usually the queers
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 10: the queers need to die and you know you shut
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: up you're a queer but these guys are living together
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 10: and the more they fight they fight like a couple
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 10: i mean they really so i don't know if there's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 10: a little like self-loathing going on and they really are
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: they they're trying to explore that as this goes on
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: but basically again we still haven't gotten to where these
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: two guys get.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Involved So midway in, you know, they're living there. They're like,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: this is terrible. We've got to do something about this.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: So one of them goes over there, and he's, like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: banging on the door. And he's like, you guys need
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: to shut up. You're always fighting. You know, it's too loud.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: And he's just, like, drunk. Answers the door, and he's like,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: fuck you. I'll fucking kill you. And, like, the kid's, like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: you know, 20 years old. He's like, okay. And he, like, leaves.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: So there's not really anything they can officially do about it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: So I like this because this is 20-year-old, just got
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: her own apartment logic.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Let's record them.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: They take a microphone, tape it onto a ski pole.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: They're like the next window over to them and it's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: always open. So they weren't getting enough noise through the wall.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: They put it around the corner and into their window
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: and just start taping them.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: And that's where, I mean, it takes off. So you
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: actually get audio. They have like.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 10: 40 continuous hours of this fighting that they have over
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: the years.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: And it is some of the.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: Craziest stuff you will ever hear people go off about.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 10: Some of the most ridiculous bickering. And again, they're bickering over,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: you know, paying the bills. Or, you know, I made
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 10: dinner and you didn't come home. I mean, like, this
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: is couple fighting.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: It's so weird.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 10: And there's this other weird third guy that sometimes lives
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: there and sometimes doesn't. And it's the strangest thing. So,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: I mean, that in itself is kind of interesting. But
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 10: then I didn't... There's this whole other thing that sprung
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: up that I don't really remember going on.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know if maybe some of you guys do.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: But there was this whole little world that came up.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 10: It found this audience. And this was pre-internet. So they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: started making mixtapes. And they would put little snippets of them.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: Shut up, little man, in between songs. And then their
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: friends would hear it and go, what is that? And
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 10: then they'd make them a copy of them fighting. And
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: then they started actually making versions of it.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: And eventually, again.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: Tapes do. They started making their way from one person
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: to the next. So it was this weird little underground
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 10: thing where all these people had copies of it.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 11: Kind of like the red tapes?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: What was the other one it was reminding me of?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know. There was another thing that was sort
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: of pre-internet. Or the Winnebago Man.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: That same thing where it caught on and pre-internet found
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: a way to get from one person to the other.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: And yeah, so it started turning up like there's two
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 10: or three bands. Like I think Devo samples part of
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: it in one of their songs at the time.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: One of the other bands does too. There's a couple
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: of bands that sampled it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: Then like all these other people started, like all these
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 10: cartoonists started doing these like very crumb-esque drawings of them
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: that are very similar to that style of trying to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: imagine what these two guys look like and they're fighting
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 10: and Yeah, I mean, just that whole world that sprung up.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 10: Then there was somebody made it into a play and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 10: was doing this off-Broadway play, dramatizing and elaborating on this craziness.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: And what else? I mean, then at one point, like,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: this goes on. Like, that's the part that becomes fascinating
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: is this little world that, like, and.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: Then they started, like, making actual copies of the tape and, like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: sending it out to people. And they had, like, ads
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: in the back of magazines because, you know, they had
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: a T-shirt with Shut Up Little Man on it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Like, they had found this weird little pop culture niche.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: And they just, like, totally settled into it. And all
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: these people started... At one point, there were three different
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: groups of people trying to make a movie out of this.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Wow. So this is the documentary.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: But they wanted to make actual fictionalized story of these
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: two guys. And it was, you know, three different people
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: working on projects at the same time.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: So that.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: I mean, and that's... I'm just, like, midway into it
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: at this point. So it's definitely worth watching. It was
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 10: on Netflix at least, you know, a couple weeks ago.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: And it is... It is worth watching.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: I want to see that.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: It's not as action-packed as even a lot of documentaries
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: because most of what they have is just audio.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: So it's a lot of them just sort of showing
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: photos of them as goofy 20-year-olds. So as it goes.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: Further in, they get a little more footage when they
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: realize they're making it or they found other people that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: went and talked to people and got footage. So The
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: first half of it's a little slow because it's just
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 10: these two guys now talking.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: About what they were doing back in the day when
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: they were kids.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: But it's interesting how it unfolds with the characters. You
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: do start to get a little more of a feel
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: of who these guys were. And then how that whole
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: movement of people sort of took off and ran with
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: an idea.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: And it's weird that it was these guys' actual life.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: So it plays on some pretty interesting things that, yeah,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: it's definitely worth watching.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 14: I wonder if they made an actual movie out of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: it where it's their characters. If those guys would be
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 14: entitled to a writer's credit for all of the.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: Well, then you get into that legal area of is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: it legal to be... I mean, if it's coming through
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: the wall, I guess it's legal. If you're going around
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: into their window, is it now not legal? Then in
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: the initial run, they put it out and they put
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: on there because, again, they were like, hey, we're cool kids.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: We're just putting this out there for fun.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: If you want to use this for any artistic purposes,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: feel free, just, you know, write to us and let
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: us know.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: So we know where all it's going.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: And then a few years later when they're like selling
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: those tapes, they copyright it. So can you copyright something
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: that you previously put out there free? You know, it's
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: like it gets into some weird legal issues. So yeah, it's,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: it's interesting from a lot of different issues too.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: At last I heard there's no federal privacy law. It's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: all state by state.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: And it's generally pretty amorphous. And in this situation, it's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: a big thing for people to fight about.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 11: And if they fought that hard, they may both be dead.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: Well, they go and kind of track them down and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: try to see what all happened. And at one point,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: they are like, okay, we're going to give you a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: residual check. It's kind of sorry how that goes. The
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 10: amount is so ridiculous. So, yeah, it's definitely worth watching.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: It turns out it was Jay and Silent Bob.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: The whole time. No, because you can hear both of
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: them fighting. They both kind of sound like Jay. They
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: just run in their mouth constantly.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: For a while when I lived in Virginia, I worked
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: this job where I printed photos all night, like thousands
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: of photos, speed printing from, And during that time, my
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: neighbors were these guys who watched sports all day. And
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: they would make the sports noises like, oh. But then
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: all the rest of it was that motherfucker, and then
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: that motherfucker, and then that motherfucker, and then that motherfucker.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: And I would be trying to sleep, but I couldn't
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: parse the relationships of the motherfuckers. I couldn't not hear it. Wait,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: is that the same motherfucker? This is a different motherfucker.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Which motherfucker? Could they, like, number the motherfuckers so.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: I can keep track of them?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: It's like trying to follow the big sleep.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: The motherfucker with the hat.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: God, that was nightmarish. And then a radio station was
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: giving out my phone number.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: It was like.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: They were doing telemarketing calls. Call our station. You may
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: have won something. Making people think they'd won a car.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: And then he sort of mumbles the phone number, because
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I got the call one day. People kept calling me.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, why are people calling me? And then
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I got the telemarketing call that gave me the impression
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I'd won something. And it tells me to call that...
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: That sounds like my number. They're giving out my number.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And I called the guy, and I got the guy
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: in the recorded message. And he had a speech impediment.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: He said, well, it costs thousands of dollars to make that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: We can't change that.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: So I had to start telling people they'd want a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: car and to come down. At first I started warming
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: up by saying.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Caller number four, you're on the air.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: No matter how asleep I was, I could get.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Up and go, caller number four, you're on the air.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And then there'd be the silence and it'd be awkward.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: Turn down your radio. Turn down your radio.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: So that was a period of my life.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 14: There are people out there still believing that they want
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 14: a car.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: Still waiting for that car to be rolling up.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: The call stopped shortly after I started.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 14: Giving away cars.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: No, come on down. Take your pick. We keep them
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: in our parking lot.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Any car on the lot. Just go up and take it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: But that reminds me of something else I just discovered
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: on Netflix recently. I hadn't heard of Creature Comfort.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: They take these recorded interviews with random people and then
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the Wallace and Gromit guy animates them.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I've heard of it.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think I've watched it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 11: They used to run those in the animation festivals. Some
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: of the first stuff they did.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: It's funny. Very funny stuff.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: He's always, Nick Park's always pretty damn funny. All right.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Does that round out our geek activities this week? No.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Marlene is nodding into the microphone.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: That says it all, I think.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: I do that.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: All right. And with that, I will say, okay, kids,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: get out your decoder pins.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 9: That doesn't, I mean.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 10: It gets better every time we.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 9: Need a catchphrase that makes a sound so we can
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: like at least make.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: A sound That's pretty standard for this episode.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: They come wrapped in this loud plastic wrap.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: We've been getting out decoder pins the whole episode.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Somebody needs to get out their decoder pins.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: Somebody needs to not have any more cookies.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I could tell that tonight's message was really important.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 10: It is time for the Movie Outdown Secret Circle reveal
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 10: of the next exciting feature. And this is going to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: be exciting because it's a huge ordeal. It's a massive thing. And,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 10: you know, one of the best movies ever. We will
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: be doing the thing super special. Now, officially, we're going
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 10: to be discussing our sofa theater feature is the thing
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: from 2011. Some people have issues with that. Anyway, we
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: will also tie in the John Carpenter thing, the original
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 10: 1951 thing.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: The John Carpenter thing?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: I'm done.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: And some of the nerdier people here might have read
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: the original short story. So if you're into who goes there,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: we might bring that up too.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: If it's not one thing, it's another.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: So I say come back for the super thing special
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: because it's going to kick ass. So go watch every
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 10: version of the thing that has ever been created and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: come back next time.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Or go watch Cardinals.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 11: Or Howard Hawks.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Howard Hawks.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: Can't go wrong. Otherwise, that about does it. We will
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: for listening.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: You put them in the oven about a quarter hour.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: But the thing that gives them their magic power is
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: the chocolate chips inside. Chocolate chip cookies, I gotta have more.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: You can bake them in the oven or buy them
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: at the store. But whatever you do, have them ready
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: at the door. And I'll love you till I die.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I can do without booze. I can do without pot.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I can do without nicotine, no thanks a lot. But
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: bring them from the oven, nice and hot. And I'm
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: a chocolate chip cookie fiend. Chocolate chip cookies, I gotta
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: have more. You can bake them in the oven or
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: buy them at the store. But whatever you do, have
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: them ready at the door. And I'll love you till
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I die. You can't eat one, you can't eat two.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Once you start chewing, there's nothing to do But clean
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: your plate, eat the crumbs too Then go and find
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: some more Chocolate chip cookies, I gotta have more You
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: can bake them in the oven or buy them at
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: the store But whatever you do, have them ready at
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the door And I'll love you till I die If
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: you want to make a friend You don't need beauty
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: or money to lend. Give them all your love, but
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: be sure you send some chocolate chip cookies too. Chocolate
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: chip cookies, I gotta have more. You can bake them
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: in the oven or buy them at the store. But
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: whatever you do, have them ready at the door. And
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I'll love you till I die. I knew a little
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: woman once upon a time. Ugliest sin and she didn't
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: have a dime. I was just gonna leave her, but
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: she changed my mind. She made those cookies for me.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Chocolate chip cookies, I gotta have more. You can bake
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: them in the oven or buy them at the store.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: But whatever you do, have them ready at the door.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: And I'll love you till I die. I knew another woman,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: pretty as a star. Had a lot of money and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: a big sports car. But I had to leave her.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: That's the way things are. She couldn't make cookies for me.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Chocolate chip cookies.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: I gotta have more.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: You can bake them in the oven or buy them
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: at the store. But whatever you do, have them ready
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: at the door. And I'll love you till I die.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: When it comes to women, you must be wise. Sometimes
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: you have to compromise i finally met a girl who
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: was just my size so i made cookies for her
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookies i gotta have more you can bake
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: them in the oven or buy them at the store
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: but whatever you do have them ready at the door
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: and i'll love you till i die Now when I die,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want wings, a golden halo or a harp
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: that sings. Give me a book, a fire, and someone
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: that brings me chocolate chip cookies all day. Chocolate chip cookies,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I gotta have more. You can bake them in the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: oven or buy them at the store. But whatever you do,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: have them ready at the door. And I'll love you
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: till I die.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: And it reminded me, it was the same thing, I
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't keep up with the stories. And I was trying,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: there was a point when I was trying to make
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: a short film based on this called The Motherfuckers.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: You can put that on the market.
• 1:16:18
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• 1:16:24
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• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Talk hard!