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Teaching Decision-Making via Small-Sided Games · A Quick Timeout

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Zachary Hopp is in his first year as the director of analytics
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and strategy for the
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SPEAKER_01: Arkansas State men's basketball team.
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SPEAKER_01: Prior to that,
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he was on the women's side at programs like Ole Miss and the
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University of Kansas.
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You may have seen him this summer even as part of the TBT of
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the Everline Drives coaching staff.
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SPEAKER_01: Coach, it's great to have you on the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Coach.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm a big fan of your show.
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I've seen a lot of your stuff on social and watched a lot of
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YouTube videos,
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so it's a big honor just being able to be on your podcast and
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share a little bit of
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SPEAKER_00: what I've learned.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that,
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SPEAKER_01: and I'm glad it's been a help,
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SPEAKER_01: and I know this will be a help to the coaches that are listening.
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SPEAKER_01: I do want to start with the experience you had this summer.
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This has been several years that you've been a part of this and
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doing this.
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How was the experience overall,
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and then basketball-wise,
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from a basketball standpoint,
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SPEAKER_01: You know, what'd you learn?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was a massive, fun experience like TBT.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just amazing how much it's grown.
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SPEAKER_00: Like this year was unique with home court advantages.
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So we played in like a sold out Coke arena at Wichita State in
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the championship game.
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SPEAKER_00: So just memories like that are special.
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SPEAKER_00: But obviously the biggest thing, too, is just picking guys' brains.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we had Gabe work as a leader shooter,
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SPEAKER_00: I think,
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SPEAKER_00: overseas,
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SPEAKER_00: as some of them are,
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SPEAKER_00: and picking his brain about shooting and being around pros.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I'm just being a sponge and learning.
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SPEAKER_00: But as far as hoops,
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SPEAKER_00: I think for me the TBT has been huge just getting live reps,
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SPEAKER_00: like live coaching reps.
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SPEAKER_00: I get to lead film sessions,
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SPEAKER_00: get to lead warm-ups,
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SPEAKER_00: lead player development stuff that I don't always get to do in my roles.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's been the biggest separator.
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SPEAKER_00: And then Bryce Taylor was – all those coaches have been incredible,
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SPEAKER_00: but just like full trust from the get-go,
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SPEAKER_00: like believing in me,
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SPEAKER_00: allowing me to really take some ownership.
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SPEAKER_00: So basketball-wise learned a lot of just what they did with the Pacers,
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SPEAKER_00: even stuff that Rick Carlisle did.
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SPEAKER_00: He'd share certain –
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concepts and things so just always picking his brain as well
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things that they do in
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the nba something i love to do the position is the director of
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analytics and
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strategy and that's becoming i found a commonplace at programs
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at the division one
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level but i don't know that necessarily everybody knows exactly
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what that looks
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like so on a day-to-day basis and then also big picture for the
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players and the
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SPEAKER_01: coaching staff what do you offer for them
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: so the biggest thing for us is we want to try to eliminate,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: human error and just allow stats to drive us,
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SPEAKER_00: right?
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't always make our decision-making.
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SPEAKER_00: We want to make data-driven decisions with data to support it.
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SPEAKER_00: So we do a bunch of in-house analytics through Coach Panone.
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SPEAKER_00: He has a lot of good experience from Bama to the NBA.
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SPEAKER_00: So we do a lot of things from shot types with our guys,
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SPEAKER_00: like points per shot,
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SPEAKER_00: leverage stats,
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SPEAKER_00: like just tons of different stats that always allow us.
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And then in player development plans,
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when guys come on visits,
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we show them,
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like,
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every area of their shots of just a PD plan that's really in
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depth that shows areas
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SPEAKER_00: of growth for them.
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SPEAKER_00: It's kind of all encompassing,
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SPEAKER_00: a lot of different hats,
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SPEAKER_00: a lot of different ways we use it in recruiting day-to-day games,
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SPEAKER_00: but just allowing us to make good data-driven decision-making.
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SPEAKER_00: And it can be various stats.
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SPEAKER_00: Obviously,
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SPEAKER_00: sometimes we'll use some of the websites too,
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SPEAKER_00: like CBB Analytics,
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SPEAKER_00: Ken Palm,
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SPEAKER_00: all those things.
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But also we do a lot through Huddle Sports Code and just our
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report windows and
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SPEAKER_00: code windows in-house.
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And every day we have like during practice,
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we have live stats populating.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll pull up live clips instantly throughout practice.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach Ben will pull them over so we can give live feedback with guys.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a lot of my role right now.
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Like the goal is to teach student managers and GAs and allow
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them to get into that role.
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SPEAKER_00: But me and I have to shout out Max Thorpe.
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SPEAKER_00: He's come from Bama and he's incredible with the sports code as well.
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And we've really taken ownership just to do as much as we can
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here at Arkansas
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SPEAKER_00: State and at our level.
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SPEAKER_01: You mentioned the shot selection and the points per possession.
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SPEAKER_01: And can you talk through for,
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SPEAKER_01: this is for my own curiosity,
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SPEAKER_01: but I'm sure others will find this interesting too.
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It's a conversation that I'm having more with my players and
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I'm trying to be
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SPEAKER_01: better and more informed in how I communicate to them.
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I think shot selection is one of those things where we as
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coaches have a lot of
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times it's come across to the players as I'll determine what
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the right shot is.
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SPEAKER_01: You just took the wrong shot.
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SPEAKER_01: Stop taking that shot now.
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And I've changed that to demonstrate to the players how this is
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helping them.
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And it's really about helping them become the most efficient
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shooter and thus
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SPEAKER_01: achieve the highest levels of success,
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SPEAKER_01: which then obviously will help our team.
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SPEAKER_01: How do you go about having those conversations?
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And then even some sort of an example of diving into what that
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conversation would look like.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why we have so many numbers to support that.
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SPEAKER_00: So obviously on their cover sheet, we have their points per shot.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's based off location.
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SPEAKER_00: So a lot of our guys this summer one alone,
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SPEAKER_00: they're in the green and the rim and the three,
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SPEAKER_00: but the mid-range and the paint,
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SPEAKER_00: it's very far red.
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SPEAKER_00: And we look back, though.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't try to just put it on.
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SPEAKER_00: That can be a small sample size sometimes.
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So we look through their college stats and just trying to show
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them what's most efficient.
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SPEAKER_00: But we're also like,
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SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: we're analytically driven,
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SPEAKER_00: but that doesn't mean all mid-range shots are bad.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, all post-ups are bad.
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SPEAKER_00: Like Pannone's really big on that.
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Like certain mid-range shots late in the clock or if you're
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looking for a game
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SPEAKER_00: winner,
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SPEAKER_00: like closer shots,
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SPEAKER_00: obviously more efficient.
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SPEAKER_00: So we don't always, it's like no mid-range at all.
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SPEAKER_00: But naturally how we do things, we in practice, we have constraints.
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So like scoring,
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there's zero points for a mid-range shot,
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one point for in the paint.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's different than RIM in three.
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SPEAKER_00: But we have those conversations.
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Obviously,
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we want to make sure that we have the data to support it and
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have guys understand.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, it's not always the easiest conversation.
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We always want to be upfront and honest and truthful with them
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to switch now,
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SPEAKER_01: which may seem kind of abrupt,
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SPEAKER_01: but I want to give you plenty of time for this.
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SPEAKER_01: Coaching there with Coach Panone,
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some of the stuff that you've put previously together and
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worked on there.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know you guys have only been there a few months,
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SPEAKER_01: but just even having talked to your wife,
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SPEAKER_01: who was previously on the show,
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SPEAKER_01: if you haven't listened to that,
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SPEAKER_01: I'll be sure to link that below.
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SPEAKER_01: She was great.
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SPEAKER_01: But you guys have done a lot in a short amount of time to accelerate.
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SPEAKER_01: the potential for success that you guys are going to have there.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know it's going to be successful,
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SPEAKER_01: but those of you that are listening,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to switch over now and add the screens.
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SPEAKER_01: This is going to be some film that the coach is going to share.
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And I'm really just going to let you kind of roll with this and
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talk through it.
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And I may have some questions throughout,
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but I want to give you plenty of time for this.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks coach.
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So I'm going to go into a little bit just of how we build our
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drills and how we layer stuff.
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The biggest thing that we talk about is behind the scenes is
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like scaffolding.
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So we want to start in manageable trunks and teaching and
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drilling things where
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SPEAKER_00: that's one on one,
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SPEAKER_00: two on two.
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SPEAKER_00: And we'll slowly build it up to five on five.
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We want to give them temporary support and tools in those
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smaller sided games so we
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SPEAKER_00: can slowly learn.
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SPEAKER_00: And then as it grows,
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SPEAKER_00: naturally,
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it'll come in live play and they'll complete the task on their
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own in five on five.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's been really successful so far this summer.
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SPEAKER_00: It's something I've really loved and learned under Coach Panoan.
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SPEAKER_00: So the first thing we'll walk through is our cutting.
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SPEAKER_00: So here you'll see we're in the slot.
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SPEAKER_00: We're attacking the slot.
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SPEAKER_00: And we call this cut the low.
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SPEAKER_00: Because the low man here on defense, we call this the low man.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is just our teach it and our drill it part, obviously.
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SPEAKER_00: This is how we'll warm up a lot of times.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't spend time doing wasted stuff at the beginning of practice.
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SPEAKER_00: It's always going to correlate to the game.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is a lot of times even how we will warm up.
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SPEAKER_00: And then here I want to show,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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I couldn't do an edit about Arkansas State without Coach
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Pannon's as good as it
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SPEAKER_00: gets as far as relaying stuff through NBA examples and live clips.
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Before we go out on the court for a new concept and film that
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day before practice,
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SPEAKER_00: we've always watched the concept.
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SPEAKER_00: And he's just the lead man through, like, PD plans and working with him.
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SPEAKER_00: Like,
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SPEAKER_00: I could give an example of,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like 10 different drives in a single possession within a minute.
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SPEAKER_00: He could pull the exact clip up.
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SPEAKER_00: That's just how of a –
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SPEAKER_00: film junkie he is and how elite he is.
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So here you can see same thing,
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slot drive,
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low man helps across,
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cutting the low.
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So these are kind of examples of things we'll show guys before
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we teach these concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: It can be varying different examples and things we do.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's same thing, middle drive, now we're cutting the low.
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SPEAKER_00: One thing you can see with our guards,
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SPEAKER_00: like we're really big on,
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SPEAKER_00: nothing is on air,
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SPEAKER_00: we're big on like bones over cones.
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SPEAKER_00: And a big thing here, like we're on confrontational drives.
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SPEAKER_00: So everything we do,
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we want to try to create rim pressure and also draw fouls for
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those are obviously
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SPEAKER_00: the most efficient shot.
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So confrontational hip attacks,
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you can see I'm cutting the low off the middle drive.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's NBA examples, same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Middle drive, cut the low.
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Now the next layer of it,
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on a baseline drive,
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a lot of people call this a 45 cut.
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SPEAKER_00: We call it a kill cut, but it's really a read.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can see our coach here, we call this a seeker.
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If he's dropping back to the block,
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we want to face cut,
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kill cut,
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and get that layup.
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SPEAKER_00: So again, this is how we start in the warm-up section of cutting.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll start right away practice after our dynamic warm-up.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll go straight into drills like this.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's NBA baseline drive.
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SPEAKER_00: It's that 45 kill cut for a layup.
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And then one thing unique in our offense where this stuff can
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kind of become random
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SPEAKER_00: is we play our five in different positions.
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SPEAKER_00: So here you can say it's the same thing, but fives naturally helps.
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SPEAKER_00: We like to keep our five on the perimeter.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a kill cut in a different scenario.
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SPEAKER_00: Slot drives, same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll just slowly,
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obviously you can tell we start with cutting the low and we'll
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just slowly build
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SPEAKER_00: and scaffold this as we go about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Same thing in the NBA.
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SPEAKER_00: You can see, right?
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SPEAKER_00: So I mentioned this low man and seeker.
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SPEAKER_00: So if that seeker drops,
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we really want to make this decision and cut the gap in the
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shell with that kill
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SPEAKER_00: cut.
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So every time it's really a decision,
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we try to avoid automatics as much as possible.
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Yes,
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we have some,
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but a lot of it is read-based decision-making on the perimeter.
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SPEAKER_00: So here, right, we take it to the next level.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're reading it.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're going three-on-three against coaches.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going on a slot drive.
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SPEAKER_00: Now they are reading the secret, right, who's going to cut.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're trying to cut the gap in the show.
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SPEAKER_00: So he stays high.
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SPEAKER_00: We cut the low.
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SPEAKER_00: Now our GA, Evan, he drops back.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're going to cut the runway, kill cut.
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SPEAKER_00: And RBC stands for read before the catch.
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SPEAKER_00: So every time on the perimeter,
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SPEAKER_00: we're trying to,
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SPEAKER_00: right,
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SPEAKER_00: these things will naturally occur the more and more that we rep them.
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But we're also trying to make sure our guys are always making
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decisions in everything we do.
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So here's some,
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like,
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really good decision-making examples of the same scenario.
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SPEAKER_00: So, right, if the seeker doesn't drop, cut the low for the dunk.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_00: TJ McConnell drops low from the seeker.
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SPEAKER_00: We want to kill cut that for a layup.
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SPEAKER_00: So here's here's the next level.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: We went three on three reading the seeker.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we call this the blender.
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SPEAKER_00: So the blender is really our like play after the play.
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SPEAKER_00: We're trying to keep the advantage and use the advantage.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Once we've created it.
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SPEAKER_00: So now the ball can be thrown anywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: This really where it incorporates the randomness of it.
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SPEAKER_00: And now we're driving and we're reading off cutting the gap in the show.
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SPEAKER_00: It's one of my favorite drills.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's just.
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It really allows our players to really make the decision and
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they don't know where
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SPEAKER_00: the ball is going to go.
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So this is just as we slowly layer it and grow from a drill to
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drill is a really good example.
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And then we'll also go from coaches and we'll go live players
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against players.
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SPEAKER_00: You can be creative,
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SPEAKER_00: obviously,
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SPEAKER_00: and adding a lot of different constraints,
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SPEAKER_00: creative with your game.
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SPEAKER_00: So oftentimes we'll go like six possessions each on the highest team,
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SPEAKER_00: obviously with the least amount of mistakes.
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wins and we're trying to get a perfect score just making
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decisions and making reads
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you said for something like this too you have constraints is
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there any anything
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that comes could you give an example of that i mean the biggest
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thing like i would
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say in that drill is where the ball goes right because it's
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very random but we
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could also keep it where hey we want to work on kill cuts today
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so we might
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The guys might think it's random,
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but we've really been struggling in that area.
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So we'll make it where it's just slot drive after slot drive or
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the baseline drive.
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So you can constrain it in different ways along with spacing on
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different times.
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You saw we started in the three-on-three and the four-on-four
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to get different cuts.
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SPEAKER_01: And you said the seeker, that's the guy that's helping, right?
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SPEAKER_01: The help, the helper.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Next up, we got our advantage drills.
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SPEAKER_00: So advantage drills,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll start these,
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SPEAKER_00: like from the beginning of the summer,
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SPEAKER_00: we started this in three-on-three.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're making the same reads out of the slot.
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SPEAKER_00: And we really want to try to get off the ball early.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of times in these advantage drills,
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SPEAKER_00: just naturally,
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SPEAKER_00: right,
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SPEAKER_00: we occur those two-on-one situations.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's a decent example.
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SPEAKER_00: This is still early in the summer, not great confrontational.
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SPEAKER_00: I like how he veers back into him.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can see naturally like cutting the low.
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SPEAKER_00: We've been repping it so much.
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SPEAKER_00: It naturally occurs in these live three-on-three games.
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SPEAKER_00: But here's a good example.
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Like we want to get off the ball super quick,
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and it creates a two-on-one.
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SPEAKER_00: Our read for this really is just if this low man,
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SPEAKER_00: even if his foot's in the paint,
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SPEAKER_00: we're trying to get off it early and play off this two-on-one.
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SPEAKER_00: And a big thing, I circle that for a strike.
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SPEAKER_00: So we want to throw strike passes.
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SPEAKER_00: I think good shooting teams are always good passing teams,
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SPEAKER_00: so we're really strict on our passing.
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You can tell we wrap a lot on just spacing,
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re-spacing,
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and our guys are quickly re-spacing.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a few examples of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Runaway kick, now playing off the extra pass.
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Our offense naturally just generates a lot of these two-on-one
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situations.
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SPEAKER_00: Slot drive, corner kick, extra pass three.
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Is there something that you teach the guys that differentiates
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whether or not they
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SPEAKER_01: kill cut or they shoot?
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SPEAKER_01: Is it just simply personnel?
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SPEAKER_00: So we don't do that per se.
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The biggest thing for us is we want to take the layup anytime
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we can because
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SPEAKER_00: obviously a rim finish
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SPEAKER_00: is better than a three, but it just depends.
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SPEAKER_00: Like if the guard gets off the ball so quick,
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SPEAKER_00: they want a time to cut,
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SPEAKER_00: they want an opportunity to cut.
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SPEAKER_00: But most times we want them to cut,
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SPEAKER_00: especially as they get deeper,
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SPEAKER_00: like cut the gap in the shell every time.
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SPEAKER_00: And like I mentioned before, like it's a read.
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SPEAKER_00: So if that seeker drops back, it's a kill cut.
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SPEAKER_00: If they stay high,
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SPEAKER_00: it'd be cut in the low,
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but then it just kind of depends on obviously the timing of the
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pass and everything
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SPEAKER_00: within our concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's a very big thing.
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SPEAKER_00: I want you to watch this, Pat.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a really good strike.
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So we focus on this,
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like Coach Pannon's huge on this,
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42 passes,
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we call them.
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SPEAKER_00: So in the NBA, they did a study.
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SPEAKER_00: If you catch it in the shooting pocket, they shot on average 42%.
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SPEAKER_00: Just outside the window was 36.
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SPEAKER_00: And if they had to move to catch the ball, it was 27%.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a 15% difference.
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SPEAKER_00: So when I mentioned earlier, like good passing teams,
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SPEAKER_00: oftentimes good shooting teams.
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SPEAKER_00: It starts with the pass.
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SPEAKER_00: So we were up on these passes too, like throwing strikes.
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SPEAKER_00: Donovan Mitchell is really elite.
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Shea Gilders,
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John Moran,
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they're really elite in the NBA at throwing these strike
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passes.
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So here now we started obviously in the slot,
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but now we're going to randomize it.
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SPEAKER_00: So, right, we can go either way.
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SPEAKER_00: We're touching the hand and we're playing live.
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SPEAKER_00: You're driving the opposite direction.
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SPEAKER_00: Here you can see, right, middle drives.
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SPEAKER_00: We want to drive right and move right.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're cutting the corner, slide down there.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people call it a Clyde, but we're trying to, uh,
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drive right move right drive left move left so we're relocating
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off the drive based
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off that here's a couple examples this is a really good like
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multiple advantage
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right you clyde and you got the advantage baseline drive this
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builds all the
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concepts together kill cut for a dunk similar middle drive
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corner cut a lot of
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SPEAKER_00: times this defender gets stuck helping here so you get this corner three
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Really good thing that the Grizzlies and the Cavs do a really
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high efficiency of is
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SPEAKER_00: doing the relocating.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot people call it the wheel,
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SPEAKER_00: but like just driving right,
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SPEAKER_00: moving right,
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SPEAKER_00: driving left,
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SPEAKER_00: moving left is really creates a lot of open driving lanes.
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SPEAKER_00: So here we build it up.
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SPEAKER_00: Obviously went three on three.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're going four on four.
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SPEAKER_00: And we'll oftentimes, I mentioned like we play with our scoring a lot.
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So we might play a 20 point game where plus three,
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you get three,
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minus three is a missed three.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll go plus one on a strike pass, like plus one on a deflection.
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So we'll add just a lot of different constraints as well with
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scoring just to make
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SPEAKER_00: the games emphasize.
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SPEAKER_00: And that might change week to week based on
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SPEAKER_00: hey, we're really struggling on this type of play.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to really emphasize it.
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SPEAKER_00: Or this type of, hey, our passes are really bad.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to make a strike pass three points.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll play a round two with that.
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SPEAKER_00: You can be really creative with your points.
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SPEAKER_00: And one thing we do, we have a lot of different concepts.
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We don't love this with Joey because he's a good shooter,
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but we do random flares.
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SPEAKER_00: So just things in our offense, too, you'll kind of see come up randomly.
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SPEAKER_00: But to your point,
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SPEAKER_00: we do like certain guys,
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SPEAKER_00: we obviously will emphasize more things than others.
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Like we don't love Joey,
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each set of random players,
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but our bigs,
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we obviously love that more.
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SPEAKER_00: Them creating advantages off of that.
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SPEAKER_00: Then here, right, we go five on five slot drive.
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But then also you'll see after this possession,
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we start incorporating full court.
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SPEAKER_00: So we start to build in our transition reads.
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SPEAKER_00: So now we're going run, run, down and back.
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SPEAKER_00: One thing you'll see really good re-spacing.
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SPEAKER_00: like driving, relocating off the drives.
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SPEAKER_00: That's really a lot of where our summer emphasis has been.
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SPEAKER_01: How quickly do you all get to the five-on-five?
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Starting out of summer,
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it took a week or two,
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but we try to end every practice.
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SPEAKER_00: So kind of like what I'm showing the scaffolding,
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SPEAKER_00: we start with these warm-up concept drills,
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SPEAKER_00: and then we'll go to offense,
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SPEAKER_00: defense on each end,
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SPEAKER_00: and then we'll go to blood drills,
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SPEAKER_00: and then we'll go into like five-on-five at the end.
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SPEAKER_00: We try to play full court every day now at the end to finish off.
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SPEAKER_00: But we slowly build it up from the three-on-three to four-on-four,
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because these five-on-five reads are a little different than
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what we got out of the
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SPEAKER_00: three-on-three.
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There's another example of just runway where it was random
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middle drive or slot
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SPEAKER_00: drive and then going run-run.
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SPEAKER_00: And we really push with pace.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, our goal is to have a pressure off.
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SPEAKER_00: And so we're trying to inbound the ball in one second,
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SPEAKER_00: so the opposing three-point line in three seconds.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're really trying to push pace.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's just a few.
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I added these in because,
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like,
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these wouldn't occur as much in the three-on-three,
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right?
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SPEAKER_00: But when you go five-on-five,
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SPEAKER_00: there's some of these,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: we wanted to call this an early easy pass,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's amazing in college.
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SPEAKER_00: Coaches change it to an early difficult.
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SPEAKER_00: Just getting off the ball early.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of times this man's defender will be in help.
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Like,
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just getting those early passes are a lot of times a struggle
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for college guys.
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SPEAKER_00: We call it the early difficult.
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And here's,
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like,
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another readout of five-on-five that you wouldn't get out of
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three-on-three.
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SPEAKER_00: Shake up.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to drive right, move right into a three.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's just a different spacing.
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SPEAKER_00: So we plot a lot of random spacings, random locations with our five.
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SPEAKER_00: So now we're in four out one in and one more layering decision making.
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So we're going to go first off a slot drive and reading it
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against coaches.
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And then we're going to go a baseline drive out of four out one
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in three on three.
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I just wanted to show that just to show like we don't only go
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right five out concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: We go multiple different spacings.
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SPEAKER_00: There's just some of those out of four out one in.
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SPEAKER_00: So slot drive, hitting the dunker.
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SPEAKER_01: Your actions stay the same no matter the alignment, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, for the most part.
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We might have certain actions,
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though,
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that are more obviously beneficial and four out one in.
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SPEAKER_00: I know in my experience, like,
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SPEAKER_00: common NBA action is like Nova.
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SPEAKER_00: Some people call it different things, but like Nova is better.
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I'll stay out of four out one in because then you'll have the
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big sprint up and
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SPEAKER_00: they're like on the doorstep to set that step up or angle ball screen.
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SPEAKER_00: We're like five out.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll have different stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Like the NBA is common,
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SPEAKER_00: honestly,
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SPEAKER_00: like all the wide,
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SPEAKER_00: double,
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SPEAKER_00: like single,
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those pin down the ways that we have a lot of those different
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concepts that we can
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SPEAKER_00: naturally just flow into pistol that we flow into naturally.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's like baseline drive, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Dunker circling up.
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SPEAKER_00: baseline release pass, one more.
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SPEAKER_00: And here we go against each other.
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SPEAKER_00: So we obviously,
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SPEAKER_00: as I mentioned earlier,
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SPEAKER_00: like we're teaching,
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SPEAKER_00: drilling it,
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and then we'll read it against coaches oftentimes before then
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we play it against
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SPEAKER_00: each other and then we build it slowly up into the five on five as well.
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SPEAKER_00: And the next thing I want to hit on is pick and roll reads.
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SPEAKER_00: So in the pick and roll,
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SPEAKER_00: specifically a lot of time we spent,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll go through different covers,
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SPEAKER_00: but I'm going to go against the show.
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SPEAKER_00: specifically today.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is the same thing,
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SPEAKER_00: like as in the cutting and the pick and roll,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll do the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll do a warmup.
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SPEAKER_00: So right here, we're hitting the pocket pass against the show.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can see this stuff is never on air.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess it might not be the best realistic defense,
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but we're always trying to have bones over cones and having
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guys just make those
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SPEAKER_00: secondary reads.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is when we've just taught it.
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SPEAKER_00: So at least evading that second help man defender.
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SPEAKER_00: And here we go, a wraparound pass against the show.
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A really big thing is attacking that top hit and hitting the
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short roll and then an
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SPEAKER_00: extra pass to the corner.
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I think the biggest thing against the show is move it early and
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move it twice.
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SPEAKER_00: So we want to get off that ball early when we engage too,
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and then we want to keep it moving and use the advantage that
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we've created.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's the next thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach calls this a C-pass.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: people call it different things,
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SPEAKER_00: but he just calls it a C-pass because you see the man ahead.
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SPEAKER_00: C-pass, throw it ahead.
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SPEAKER_00: And now you can see how this is a really high-level pass.
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SPEAKER_00: We're leading them, and we call these go-catches.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, a lot of people call them stampedes or running through the ball.
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SPEAKER_00: That's why we call these areas the runways, right?
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SPEAKER_00: We're running through the ball,
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SPEAKER_00: and these go-catches a lot of times,
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SPEAKER_00: and it creates really good advantage.
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SPEAKER_00: It's so hard to close out and react to this go-catch.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can see how we just slowly layer.
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SPEAKER_00: We start off hitting the roll,
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SPEAKER_00: the pocket,
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SPEAKER_00: and we were working on some passing,
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SPEAKER_00: and now we're working on the C pass.
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SPEAKER_00: And we'll slowly layer this too, right?
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SPEAKER_00: So we worked on go catching.
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We can also hit the roll,
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but now we're reading this low man comes in and helps.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're skipping it stops at corner.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can see even in this,
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SPEAKER_00: while it might still be in the teach it,
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SPEAKER_00: drill it segment,
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SPEAKER_00: we're still scaffolding and building up on everything that we do.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's C pass, extra.
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A big read is obviously against the skip is better if they're
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tagging from behind,
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SPEAKER_00: but the extra pass is very common,
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SPEAKER_00: especially in the NBA.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of times they'll tag from this two side.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is a really good way to attack that one-on-one advantage too.
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And we play a lot of one-on-one too,
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so I'll show a clip later of just us playing out of this.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll play one-on-one out of different concepts that happen in the games.
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I threw in some international clips with this because I think
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they're just so high-level
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SPEAKER_00: and pick and roll reads and just the tactical side of the game.
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SPEAKER_00: So I threw in a few examples here too.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a good wraparound pass against the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Really big thing that I mentioned earlier, right?
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SPEAKER_00: You want to attack this hip, but you also want to try to avoid gliding.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that exposes the ball, but really attack the hip well.
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SPEAKER_00: Make the wraparound pass to the roll.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's some examples.
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SPEAKER_00: Not great defense on this first one, but C pass, right?
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SPEAKER_00: We want to get off it quick when we engage too and then hit the roller.
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Really good clip from the Kings getting off it early,
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then hitting Sabonis on the roll.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's C pass, right?
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SPEAKER_00: What I was talking about, if they tag from behind, the skip pass.
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SPEAKER_00: And he does a really good job.
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SPEAKER_00: We do this too.
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SPEAKER_00: We try to lift up, obviously, to create good windows for the pass.
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SPEAKER_00: If you stay in the corner,
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SPEAKER_00: that's a pretty long and difficult pass,
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SPEAKER_00: and it can easily get stolen.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's C pass.
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SPEAKER_00: What I was talking about,
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SPEAKER_00: this is if they're tagging from that two-man side,
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SPEAKER_00: you can really attack this low man.
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SPEAKER_00: So we try to move it early, move it twice.
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And you can really attack that closeout,
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especially like go catches,
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stampedes.
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SPEAKER_00: That stuff's really, really high level for this.
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SPEAKER_00: Another thing anytime in this is I think he does such a good job of this.
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SPEAKER_00: Eyes sell lies, so he'll get pass faked by Joe Ingles, like elite.
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SPEAKER_00: Just hesitating,
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SPEAKER_00: like just that split second,
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SPEAKER_00: especially in the NBA,
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SPEAKER_00: like creates a contested three to a little more open.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's working on all the passes.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll do different ones.
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SPEAKER_00: That last one was more, it had some passing mixed in.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of scoring.
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So now this is just us doing a different day and going through
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every pass.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're hitting the short roll.
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SPEAKER_00: We're making that corner kick pass for the three.
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SPEAKER_00: Then we'll build it up.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're hitting the short roll.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're hitting the runway.
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SPEAKER_00: So we call this the runway or runway kick.
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SPEAKER_00: And one thing too, you'll see in these drills, we don't,
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SPEAKER_00: Some teams will keep, right, only big screening.
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I think the new kind of modern game in the NBA,
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a lot of guards are setting screens.
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So we rotate through and we want our guards in these situations
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too because,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: against the switch,
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SPEAKER_00: this is very good too,
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SPEAKER_00: right,
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SPEAKER_00: to get out early,
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SPEAKER_00: play in this pocket,
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SPEAKER_00: and then we can play off the advantage.
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So we have our guards making these same passes,
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not just bigs or playing in the short roll.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we hit them.
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If they do help off that strong side corner,
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you know,
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the strong side corner kick down.
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SPEAKER_00: So we call that a kick down if you're passing to the strong side corner.
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SPEAKER_01: Is this how you guys do most of your shooting?
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SPEAKER_00: But we have a lot of two.
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SPEAKER_00: It's through actions.
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Then we'll just literally have four guys on the court and
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coaches will lead at this.
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SPEAKER_00: It could be multiple types of drives and then we'll get shots.
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But I will show at the end kind of in our daily bread is one of
25:08
our main drills
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SPEAKER_00: that we work on every day that has passing and shooting.
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SPEAKER_00: But we'll also do like shooting in our,
25:13
SPEAKER_00: a lot of it is what you're mentioning,
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SPEAKER_00: like it's in our concepts,
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SPEAKER_00: whether it's,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: the wide pin down away,
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SPEAKER_00: the single to the corner,
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SPEAKER_00: like all those different screens too,
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SPEAKER_00: out of pistol,
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SPEAKER_00: like we'll do a lot of shooting where it's random,
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SPEAKER_00: like it's be multi shots,
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SPEAKER_00: like three different shots in those actions,
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SPEAKER_00: like all combined in one.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's just some good examples overseas.
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SPEAKER_00: A short roll hit the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: This is where kind of like that clip earlier with the baseline drive,
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SPEAKER_00: Kilka,
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SPEAKER_00: like building on the stuff,
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SPEAKER_00: extra pass,
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SPEAKER_00: and then we go catch.
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SPEAKER_00: It's so hard to defend, especially this guy's not the most athletic.
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Like it can be a great way to break the paint is those go catch
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or stampedes.
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SPEAKER_00: Short roll, runway kick, extra pass.
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SPEAKER_00: So we play a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: You can see like how naturally this stuff builds.
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This is how a lot of our summer has been built on these
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two-on-one situations and
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SPEAKER_00: playing out of them.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's three on two.
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SPEAKER_00: It just depends.
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SPEAKER_00: One thing I'll say to coaches,
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SPEAKER_00: too,
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SPEAKER_00: if you haven't,
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SPEAKER_00: like Tenerife is one of the best overseas teams to watch,
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SPEAKER_00: too,
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SPEAKER_00: just sets year by year.
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SPEAKER_00: I love to watch from like NBA.
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SPEAKER_00: I've gotten into college a little more now,
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SPEAKER_00: but mainly NBA and international,
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SPEAKER_00: like Tenerife is as good as it gets with set plays.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a short rule, strong side kickdown.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can kind of see like with our guys,
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like it's not this isn't the first time they're seeing stuff
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when we go into
26:26
SPEAKER_00: practice.
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We've shown them the similar film clips in film right before we
26:32
got on the court.
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And even sometimes we'll have the TV on the court so we can
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just instantly watch stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: And then it just naturally so much easier for them to be visual.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: We know there's different types of learners.
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SPEAKER_00: So a lot of our guys are visual learners.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: So we want to show them these visual clips.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not the first time they see it when we teach it.
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SPEAKER_00: How long is a film?
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SPEAKER_00: You show just three or four clips or?
26:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's usually just, it can depend.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, we'll have longer ones that might be long, but then some are quick.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, it can be quick hitting ones.
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SPEAKER_00: So it can be,
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SPEAKER_00: in the concept,
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SPEAKER_00: it might only be one,
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SPEAKER_00: but it can be anywhere from one to four,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: per concept,
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SPEAKER_00: per area.
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SPEAKER_00: But then we'll start on to have huge ones where it might be,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: we might show a hole,
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SPEAKER_00: though,
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SPEAKER_00: against the show.
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SPEAKER_00: We might show a hole at it that might be,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: more on the 15-minute side of,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: every single read that's possible.
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So it just kind of depends on the day and kind of how coach is
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feeling and also how
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SPEAKER_00: many,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: clips we have from practice from the last day we're showing as well.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's here's that example I was mentioning earlier,
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SPEAKER_00: like we'll go two ends a lot,
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SPEAKER_00: offense and defense,
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SPEAKER_00: or we'll just play one on one.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can see if they're tagging off this two side,
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SPEAKER_00: we're replicating this guy's holding until this pass gets here.
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SPEAKER_00: And then we're playing one on one.
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SPEAKER_00: So we think like one on one is one of the best ways,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: to just get better as dual implications,
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SPEAKER_00: like working on closeouts.
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SPEAKER_00: You can never work on, I think, too many closeouts on the defensive side.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's really, really good.
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And Biz here,
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man,
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he's one of the highest level shooters I've been around.
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SPEAKER_00: He shot 49% from three and juggle on over 200 attempts.
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SPEAKER_00: One thing you'll see,
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SPEAKER_00: he's an elite shooter,
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SPEAKER_00: not the quickest guy in the world,
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SPEAKER_00: but you'll see how these go catches,
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SPEAKER_00: even for him,
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SPEAKER_00: make him look so quick.
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So if you have non-shooters,
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stampedes,
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go catches are great ways for them to break the paint.
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SPEAKER_00: Then here on the defensive side,
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SPEAKER_00: Coach Cooper,
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SPEAKER_00: he's from the NBA,
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SPEAKER_00: really high-level defensive mind.
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He's so good,
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too,
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with scaffolding and building our defense from the ground up.
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SPEAKER_00: So we might be on one end doing,
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SPEAKER_00: whether it's concepts out of the shell,
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SPEAKER_00: like you saw the pick and roll.
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SPEAKER_00: On the other end, we might be doing defense.
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SPEAKER_00: But we'll, again here, we'll do some scoring, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like every point might be on a deflection, on no strike pass.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we'll incentivize the defense as well for ways to have them scoring.
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SPEAKER_00: Because every drill that we do in practice, there's a winner and a loser.
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SPEAKER_00: And we either do pushups or sprints after that.
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SPEAKER_00: And at the end of practice, like based on the wins.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're really big on tracking like win percentage and all of that.
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So that's a big way too that we try to make sure there's a
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winner and losing
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SPEAKER_00: everything that it is.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's very competitive.
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SPEAKER_00: Even in our shooting drills too.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'll show you later in some of our finishing stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we keep scoring it as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's building up.
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SPEAKER_00: We went through all the reads of the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we might go blood drills.
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SPEAKER_00: This is where constraints really come in well.
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SPEAKER_00: I really love something that Coach Panone does.
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SPEAKER_00: He's so creative with all these different games.
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SPEAKER_00: Here now we're in a blood drill.
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SPEAKER_00: We're playing out of the show.
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SPEAKER_00: The defense has to let the ball get to the short roll.
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SPEAKER_00: Once the ball gets to the short roll, we are live.
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SPEAKER_00: Not until it gets to the short roll.
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Then we're naturally playing out of all these reads that we
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worked on earlier.
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And a lot of this,
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like,
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we've only repped to,
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like,
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one or twice with these guys.
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SPEAKER_00: You can see how it's naturally occurring.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's why,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: I can't say enough,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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the scaffolding and building on and layering your stuff in
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practice is a game
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SPEAKER_00: changer.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a similar thing out of the CPAS, right?
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So now instead of we said,
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hey,
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we're constraining once it gets to the shore,
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we're live.
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Now we're saying,
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hey,
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once this CPAS occurs,
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you can't steal this pass,
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then we're live.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's a really good one, right?
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SPEAKER_00: This is why moving it early, moving it twice against the show is so hard.
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SPEAKER_00: If you get two on the ball, you engage two.
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SPEAKER_00: That's that pass that we all really want to get.
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SPEAKER_00: And the last thing I'll go through is just some daily bread drills.
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SPEAKER_00: These are the kind of things that we do every day.
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SPEAKER_00: So you mentioned earlier kind of like what we work on.
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SPEAKER_00: This is a big, this incorporates a lot, right?
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SPEAKER_00: It's ball handling.
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SPEAKER_00: It's our confrontational drives.
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SPEAKER_00: It's passing and it's also shooting.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll rep different passes.
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SPEAKER_00: This can change day to day.
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SPEAKER_00: This is one of our most common drills that we do.
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Ball handling,
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passing,
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confrontational drive,
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kick down past the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: You can tell everyone's rotating, right?
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SPEAKER_00: But these are just big things that we work on.
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SPEAKER_00: We're really sticklers about the teams will be on each end.
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So you can see like Scarlett's on this end,
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Black will be on the other end.
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SPEAKER_00: And the only time we'll count a made shot is if it's a strike pass.
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SPEAKER_00: So if the pass is not in the window,
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SPEAKER_00: I mentioned earlier,
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like 42 passes are so important for us that we will not count
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any mates that don't
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SPEAKER_00: include those.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's an early hook pass.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just getting off it early.
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SPEAKER_00: This is really big.
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Just reading that low man,
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if he's already in the paint,
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we want to get off it quick.
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This is where a lot of times naturally a cut won't occur
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because we might be making
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SPEAKER_00: this pass right here.
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But if we get a little deeper,
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then we want them to obviously cut the gap in the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Next one we got is baseline release.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes this low man might come late.
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SPEAKER_00: If for whatever reason you get rolled out,
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SPEAKER_00: then we'll make a baseline release pass to the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's just so many different,
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's the things that you want to emphasize as a coach,
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like the passes that you want to make sure you guys make once
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you get to games,
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SPEAKER_00: like these are things that to just start and build up in your drills.
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SPEAKER_00: And then here, this is really, really hard to defend is the pull behind.
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SPEAKER_00: So we drive this slot,
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SPEAKER_00: we want to pull behind,
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SPEAKER_00: especially like if that seeker man drops at all,
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SPEAKER_00: it's really hard to recover back to your man.
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SPEAKER_00: So make this pull behind pass.
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SPEAKER_00: And for any coaches like Coach Pannon is huge on like open practices.
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SPEAKER_00: Anytime you guys would want to come,
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SPEAKER_00: you can reach out to me or reach out to someone on our staff.
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SPEAKER_00: But we're really big on just open.
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SPEAKER_00: He's big on open practice policy.
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SPEAKER_00: We've already had a lot of people attend practice.
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So anyone that wants to definitely you can reach out to anyone
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on our staff.
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SPEAKER_00: We'd love to love to have you.
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SPEAKER_01: How often I'm assuming it's daily bread because you do it every day.
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SPEAKER_01: How much time do you guys spend with that?
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SPEAKER_00: It's about eight minutes for that shooting.
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SPEAKER_00: I honestly just kind of labeled a daily bread.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach Cooper calls that a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach, we'll kind of rotate Coach Pino and Will, like our warm-up drills.
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SPEAKER_00: So one day it might have been that.
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We try to do spacing and shooting,
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though,
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like re-spacing and spacing every day.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's usually eight to ten minutes of shooting.
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SPEAKER_00: But it won't be every day.
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Some days we might do the pick and roll and the cutting
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together,
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you know.
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SPEAKER_00: So it can vary.
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SPEAKER_00: But almost every day Coach wants to get into shooting a re-spacing drill.
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SPEAKER_00: And it can be anywhere like eight to 10 minutes,
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those first three like segments before then we start going to
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like advantage
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SPEAKER_00: drills,
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blood drills and different things to move on to then five on
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five and playing at
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SPEAKER_00: the end.
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SPEAKER_01: This was fantastic, and I have to have you back now.
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Maybe I'll give you at least till the end of the season to be
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able to get your feet
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SPEAKER_01: underneath of you.
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SPEAKER_01: People are going to want to connect with you about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Where is the best place that they can reach you?
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Yeah,
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the best place is honestly just through Twitter or Instagram,
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probably.
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SPEAKER_00: My username is just ZacharyHop3 on both of those platforms.
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SPEAKER_00: So definitely anyone can reach out.
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SPEAKER_00: We're pretty good about to just like sharing drills.
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SPEAKER_00: We've had multiple like
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coaches in college even come to practices and we share a lot of
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what we do.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'd love to just connect,
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reach out if anybody has any questions or wants further dives
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on any of this stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if you're not reaching out, connect with him on Twitter.
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I spent the other day looking through some of the clips that
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you had and added some
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SPEAKER_01: new things to my playbook for this year,
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SPEAKER_01: a couple of actions.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm super pumped about that.
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Has a lot of NBA stuff and college stuff and the experience
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that you're getting
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with the TBT and now merging that into the stuff that I know
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Coach Pannon already
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SPEAKER_01: has.
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And I think it's going to be a deadly combination and it's
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super helpful for me.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's been fantastic.
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SPEAKER_01: So Zach, I appreciate you coming on the show, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks, coach.
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SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate it.