Latest / Sooner or Later Sports / Oklahoma Sooners enter NEW ERA with MAJOR Changes | 2026 Begins NOW (S3 E67)
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Happy Snowmagedtton. I hope you all are staying warm. Me
- 0:11Speaker 1: and Coop are definitely doing that. We're gonna talk about
- 0:13Speaker 1: more here on the Sooner or Later Sport Show, a
- 0:17Speaker 1: Hartmedia production presented by Sleeper that is Coop. I'm Jay.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Thanks for pulling up here on the YouTube channel, listening
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- 0:28Speaker 1: us five stars. If you're listening, you don't even deserve it.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Give us five any way and gifted. So Oh, today's episode,
- 0:35Speaker 1: we got a lot of fun stuff to dive into,
- 0:36Speaker 1: mainly because like I said, it's Snowmagedttons. We all kind
- 0:39Speaker 1: of stuff on like new ad. We also gotta talk
- 0:43Speaker 1: about the changing in the strength and conditioning side. We're
- 0:47Speaker 1: also gonna talk about winter workouts. The freshmen are in
- 0:50Speaker 1: and so are the transfers. What does that mean. We're
- 0:52Speaker 1: also taking 'all's questions and all the good stuff like
- 0:54Speaker 1: we y'all always do here on Sundays. So pull up,
- 0:58Speaker 1: grab a seat, grab your faithor re beverage, and join
- 1:01Speaker 1: us for a good check. Cool Happy snow mcgeda man,
- 1:05Speaker 1: how's it going. How are you feeling.
- 1:06Speaker 2: I'm warm.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I'm warm, plus.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Got lots of you know, lots of snow. There's a
- 1:11Speaker 2: lot of snow time outside with the kiddos. And uh
- 1:14Speaker 2: and yeah, man, I uh, rumor or not, I'm alive,
- 1:20Speaker 2: So that's uh, that's always good too.
- 1:28Speaker 1: What rumor or not? What happened? I'm sorry about you
- 1:30Speaker 1: completely froze on me.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I said, rumor or not, I'm alive. Didn't have any
- 1:36Speaker 2: rumors of my death this weekend, So that's always a
- 1:38Speaker 2: good deal.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I thought that was like the wildest stuff
- 1:40Speaker 1: in the world. I think that's probably a great place
- 1:42Speaker 1: to start. Because uh, as soon as uh okay Breakdown
- 1:48Speaker 1: posted that, I I I chuckled like a lot because
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's I didn't. I didn't think we would need to
- 1:55Speaker 1: do this, but it appears that Yeah, Tedman's good. Teddy's alive.
- 2:05Speaker 1: He's still alive. You know they have to post that.
- 2:07Speaker 1: The bad part they actually have to post a graphic
- 2:09Speaker 1: to let everybody know that he's good. I guess Facebook
- 2:12Speaker 1: is doing a really good job of tricking people into
- 2:15Speaker 1: believing stuff that's not true. Hooms To among us would
- 2:18Speaker 1: have thought that Uh, that would have come from the
- 2:20Speaker 1: faces of the books, right.
- 2:23Speaker 2: It's it's always something, It's always something. But uh no,
- 2:27Speaker 2: I mean obviously, like we all, I mean, that's like
- 2:30Speaker 2: losing a national treasure. And uh, you know it'd be
- 2:34Speaker 2: a deal if it's you know, coach Switzer. You know,
- 2:37Speaker 2: because of the age situation, you're gonna want to trace
- 2:40Speaker 2: chase down that type of stuff. But uh, Jeddy's in
- 2:42Speaker 2: his prime still. He's got a big, nice, good beard,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you know, working and and soul. That Uh, that's that
- 2:50Speaker 2: was fun. Now the men's basketball team might be dead,
- 2:54Speaker 2: but but Teddy is alive.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's the reason why we talk college
- 2:58Speaker 1: football here on this channel book, cause I don't basketball
- 3:01Speaker 1: is something that we could survive on, uh, nor be
- 3:03Speaker 1: able to keep up with NFL playoffs is going on.
- 3:08Speaker 1: We're into that. We've got so many topics to jump into.
- 3:14Speaker 1: We appreciate you hanging out with us here during Snowmageddon.
- 3:17Speaker 1: We see y'all in the comments. No, James, I am
- 3:21Speaker 1: not in your I am in your sea. Actually probably
- 3:23Speaker 1: I could totally see that. My bad, My apologies, James.
- 3:27Speaker 1: That's actually Tofer's fault. We'll blame him. For that one,
- 3:31Speaker 1: But no, we appreciate y'all coming and hanging out the season.
- 3:34Speaker 1: We're preparing ourselves for next season. Baby, winter Wonderland looks beautiful.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And I'm looking out there now, like, dang, things are
- 3:44Speaker 1: starting to come down again here. That's uh here in
- 3:47Speaker 1: the southern part. So I'm wondering if we're gonna get
- 3:50Speaker 1: if it's gonna continue to be nasty over the next
- 3:54Speaker 1: couple of days. It looks like it's not supposed to
- 3:56Speaker 1: get anymore, but I wouldn't be.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Surprised it's gonna stayt obviously. The kiddos are gonna I
- 4:02Speaker 2: mean it's been worse throughout I mean, I know, like
- 4:06Speaker 2: there were some areas in Mississippi and Tennessee that had
- 4:10Speaker 2: some really really bad ice areas, and uh so yeah,
- 4:13Speaker 2: it's you know, we get the pretty snow and what
- 4:17Speaker 2: is it probably like ten degrees outside and so man,
- 4:21Speaker 2: just you know, it's always enjoy this that the kids,
- 4:26Speaker 2: you know, like I said, to go outside and my son, man,
- 4:30Speaker 2: I like have to like force him to come back in,
- 4:33Speaker 2: you know, to offer him like snacks or something like that,
- 4:36Speaker 2: because the dude was outside for like eight hours yesterday
- 4:39Speaker 2: and I was like, it's like ten degrees, bro, you
- 4:41Speaker 2: need to come inside.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Is he is he a husky?
- 4:44Speaker 2: He is? He is? He wishes that he was a part?
- 4:47Speaker 1: Is he part of husky? It seems it always cracks
- 4:50Speaker 1: me up whenever it snows in Oklahoma and people to
- 4:52Speaker 1: actually own huskies and have the videos of the husky
- 4:54Speaker 1: going out there sleeping in the snow and people are like,
- 4:56Speaker 1: oh my god, you need to let your dog in
- 4:58Speaker 1: the house. It's like, no, this is his natural habitat.
- 5:00Speaker 1: This is actually where he wants to be. It's in
- 5:02Speaker 1: this cold weather right here. And no, it cracks me up, uh,
- 5:07Speaker 1: seeing those because it's the truth. It's you know, it's cold,
- 5:09Speaker 1: Like you said, it's cold, it is cold outside. But
- 5:12Speaker 1: I digress. Let's jump into the big news out there.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Feel free to jump in the comments, give us your questions.
- 5:18Speaker 1: We'll answer them, Uh, if you if you wanted to
- 5:20Speaker 1: be answered immediately, super Chet's always the best way if
- 5:24Speaker 1: you want or if you want it to be done
- 5:26Speaker 1: later on in the show, which we're going to do
- 5:28Speaker 1: a whole Q and a later well, we'll just talk
- 5:30Speaker 1: about what's going on and answer y'all's questions. I've been
- 5:32Speaker 1: starring them as we.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Go, and I think I think Jay has got a
- 5:39Speaker 2: little Snowmageddon on the on the internet. So start off
- 5:45Speaker 2: by you know, obviously one of the bigger pieces of
- 5:48Speaker 2: news new ad has been hired.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Uh.
- 5:51Speaker 2: There were a couple of different people whose names were
- 5:53Speaker 2: out there, and obviously we had the search committee with
- 5:57Speaker 2: with some great uh some great you know sooner who
- 6:00Speaker 2: are currently Sooners and former Sooners. Uh, you know, people
- 6:03Speaker 2: like Kensey Hansen, Sam Bradford, and so we we have
- 6:07Speaker 2: landed on the associate uh uh a d from Illinois,
- 6:12Speaker 2: a really really you know, great background just now gotten
- 6:15Speaker 2: into sports, uh, you know, not too long ago. And
- 6:19Speaker 2: you know, just from my opinion, there's there's a big
- 6:22Speaker 2: piece of that which is you know that that whole
- 6:25Speaker 2: position is going to be completely done. There we go. Hey,
- 6:31Speaker 2: that position is going to be completely different than it
- 6:33Speaker 2: used to Now. It's going to be about raising money. Hey,
- 6:37Speaker 2: there you go, Jay, welcome back. Uh. I'm glad you
- 6:40Speaker 2: could you could join me here. But it's about raising money,
- 6:44Speaker 2: getting the the folks you know on board for a
- 6:50Speaker 2: lot of the the the legal stuff. You know, obviously
- 6:54Speaker 2: the rules are changing. You know, we're at kind of
- 6:57Speaker 2: the wild wild West again. Uh. You know people made
- 7:00Speaker 2: comments about you know people, the paying of the players
- 7:03Speaker 2: has always happened. You can just bring the money through
- 7:05Speaker 2: the front door, you know nowadays instead of the back door.
- 7:09Speaker 2: But Roger Jenny, uh you know, looking looks like a
- 7:12Speaker 2: little you know, he's a little bit of on the young,
- 7:14Speaker 2: younger side. So that's good because you want him to
- 7:16Speaker 2: be successful and be around here for a little while.
- 7:18Speaker 2: But when it comes to fundraising, I know that he
- 7:20Speaker 2: just brought a hundred million dollar gift into Illinois here recently.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Don't think he can bring that money with him. Yeah,
- 7:27Speaker 2: I don't think he can bring it. But yeah, so
- 7:31Speaker 2: so if if you're looking to uh you know, donate
- 7:34Speaker 2: your one hundred million to the University of Oklahoma, Uh,
- 7:37Speaker 2: give Roger a call. But Jay, I mean, what are
- 7:40Speaker 2: your thoughts on this? Because there were some rumors on
- 7:43Speaker 2: the a mc CEO who stepped down and then obviously
- 7:47Speaker 2: this broke you know late was it late Friday? But uh,
- 7:51Speaker 2: I personally like it. Yeah.
- 7:54Speaker 1: The one biggest rumor I was hearing go whatnot that
- 7:56Speaker 1: a lot of people was really running with and hoping
- 7:58Speaker 1: that would happen was Stoops. I thought that was a
- 8:02Speaker 1: very interesting rumor in itself, like there's no way Bob
- 8:06Speaker 1: Stoops is going to become the ad, but I would
- 8:11Speaker 1: not be opposed to it, right Like, I think that
- 8:15Speaker 1: would have been an interesting one if they went that route.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But na Bob wasn't it uh? And the biggest rumors
- 8:21Speaker 1: was it was gonna be outside of They were gonna
- 8:26Speaker 1: think outside the box and go outside of the college
- 8:29Speaker 1: football world. For the majority of us, the casuals, the
- 8:35Speaker 1: main you know, the uninitiated here, this hire doesn't really
- 8:39Speaker 1: matter as much as people will want to make it,
- 8:42Speaker 1: seing his job is all behind the scene stuff. He's
- 8:44Speaker 1: gonna have to hire do some hiring of coaches and stuff. Right.
- 8:47Speaker 1: The expectation is Portamosia does not survive. On the basketball side,
- 8:51Speaker 1: they keep losing these heartbreakers. How do you have two
- 8:54Speaker 1: buzzard beaters, one lead sends you to overtime and one
- 8:57Speaker 1: loses you the game. It's just at this point the
- 9:00Speaker 1: basketball gods are saying, yeah, it's time move on. So
- 9:04Speaker 1: I think that that will happen before Roger gets into place,
- 9:07Speaker 1: which is February fifteenth, is my is what I saw
- 9:10Speaker 1: post it so since that's the case, because the Board
- 9:13Speaker 1: of Regents actually meets this Thursday. That's when you'll see
- 9:18Speaker 1: the contract extensions. You'll see new contracts, proposed hirings, all
- 9:22Speaker 1: of that stuff, and the end of contracts that happened
- 9:25Speaker 1: in which we've got one end of contract to talk
- 9:27Speaker 1: about in a moment. But him coming from Illinois with experience,
- 9:32Speaker 1: how good Illinois's been over the last few years. I
- 9:34Speaker 1: ain't complaining. I actually don't think that's a bad thing
- 9:37Speaker 1: at all. They Illinois has done well in all sports
- 9:41Speaker 1: with him there. He's been a part of the hiring.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Like you said, he had one hundred million dollar gift
- 9:45Speaker 1: that he's spearheaded. He's a lawyer who has experienced with
- 9:49Speaker 1: contract negotiations and things of that nature. As we all
- 9:52Speaker 1: understand what the changes in collegiate sports, collective bargaining pieces
- 9:58Speaker 1: are going to start coming in language for that stuff's
- 10:01Speaker 1: gonna start showing up soon. So yeah, I think it's
- 10:03Speaker 1: a good r I think it's just I mean, it
- 10:05Speaker 1: makes sense to go with someone with someone with experience
- 10:08Speaker 1: in that capacity, and if things work out properly, he'll
- 10:12Speaker 1: be here the next twenty five years and he'll hopefully
- 10:15Speaker 1: get at least one national championship under his belt.
- 10:19Speaker 2: You know, like I said, just coming out, I think
- 10:22Speaker 2: he just got into the the ad type of role
- 10:26Speaker 2: here in the past, was it three or four years
- 10:28Speaker 2: and so, you know, like I was saying, that whole
- 10:33Speaker 2: job is different now than it's ever been. So having
- 10:36Speaker 2: somebody who has a ton of experience on how it
- 10:39Speaker 2: has been played out for the longest time, I mean,
- 10:42Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a humongous asset. I got
- 10:46Speaker 2: to think that more and more, especially with you know,
- 10:49Speaker 2: the next subject we're gonna go to, You're gonna see
- 10:51Speaker 2: a lot of the a lot of people have been
- 10:54Speaker 2: in place for a while. You know, they still have
- 10:57Speaker 2: things to offer, and so you're gonna see some you know,
- 11:00Speaker 2: some support roles built around the athletic department, around the
- 11:04Speaker 2: football team, around the basketball team, so that you can
- 11:07Speaker 2: have more and more people kind of working on the
- 11:09Speaker 2: program and taking you know, small jobs, because you know,
- 11:12Speaker 2: coaching is just as hard as it's ever been. There's
- 11:16Speaker 2: probably more factors in it too, since you're trying to
- 11:19Speaker 2: integrate not only just incoming freshmen, but then incoming transfers
- 11:24Speaker 2: every single cycle, and then on top of that you've
- 11:27Speaker 2: got the money raising situation, and so bringing somebody like this,
- 11:31Speaker 2: who's again the money is big Because as much as
- 11:36Speaker 2: the REV share portion is, you know, that was kind
- 11:39Speaker 2: of kind of a you know, a piece of duct
- 11:42Speaker 2: tape or a flex seal on a cracking dam. You know,
- 11:46Speaker 2: the changes that are going to happen over the next
- 11:48Speaker 2: maybe five years to ten years are still going to
- 11:51Speaker 2: be pretty monumental.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty poor on the NCAA's efforts to try
- 11:58Speaker 1: to get some of this stuff in place. But I
- 12:00Speaker 1: think they did that on purpose. You know, if y'all
- 12:02Speaker 1: ever listened, if you've listened to me talk over the
- 12:04Speaker 1: last what's this six months or so, I've pointed out
- 12:08Speaker 1: that I don't think anything that's happening right now is coincidental.
- 12:11Speaker 1: I think this was by design by the NCAAA so
- 12:13Speaker 1: that they can get Congress to go ahead and do
- 12:16Speaker 1: the work for them they didn't want to do. Yeah,
- 12:19Speaker 1: Like they could have had all this stuff laid out,
- 12:20Speaker 1: they could have had plans, they could have built the
- 12:22Speaker 1: collective bargaining piece they're gonna start to put all this
- 12:24Speaker 1: stuff into place. They didn't want to. They want somebody
- 12:26Speaker 1: else to do it for them. So the better way
- 12:29Speaker 1: is letting, and you can't let humans make this decision
- 12:32Speaker 1: on their own right. It's the reason why you have
- 12:33Speaker 1: governments and things of that nature. We are habitual line steppers,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and we have a tendency of being selfish. We're going
- 12:38Speaker 1: to try to push the envelopees further as far as possible,
- 12:41Speaker 1: regardless of how fair and unfair could be. So I
- 12:44Speaker 1: don't know why the NCAAA thought that this was gonna
- 12:46Speaker 1: work out in their favor or make them even look good,
- 12:49Speaker 1: or even help them get Congress and make some moves.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Some people liked the chaos, not gonna lie, kind of
- 12:55Speaker 1: enjoy it sometimes kind of fun. I'm not complaining.
- 13:00Speaker 2: I mean obviously when it's chaos. When it's chaos happening
- 13:02Speaker 2: to like other teams, and when you're watching, you know,
- 13:06Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, the Jalen Rashota stuff, and
- 13:08Speaker 2: then you're watching the the you know, the kid from Oregon,
- 13:13Speaker 2: you know, try to you know, take it down somewhere else,
- 13:15Speaker 2: and then now Darien menso like that's all cute and
- 13:18Speaker 2: funny and it's entertaining when it's not your program. But
- 13:21Speaker 2: you know, I know that all of us who were
- 13:23Speaker 2: watching our defensive line get kind of shook in the
- 13:26Speaker 2: middle of the summer with David Stone that you know,
- 13:29Speaker 2: that wasn't that wasn't terrific. So yeah, as long as
- 13:33Speaker 2: it's not you, it's pretty entertaining.
- 13:35Speaker 1: You have a lot of people that that wasn't very
- 13:37Speaker 1: fun for them. They weren't very happy about it, But
- 13:39Speaker 1: I digress. It's not gonna happen. Let's welcome Roger Jinny
- 13:46Speaker 1: to the program and we look forward to see what
- 13:52Speaker 1: you put together and the new era of college football civilization.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Thank you all for pulling up here on this very
- 13:58Speaker 1: very cold Sunday. Hit the light button if you need
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- 14:03Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, Thursday is the Board of Regents
- 14:08Speaker 1: and that's when they bring a lot of stuff to
- 14:10Speaker 1: the table, like contracts, and I think I'm assuming Roger
- 14:13Speaker 1: in these contracts gonna be placed there as well compensation
- 14:18Speaker 1: because all that stuff's public information as far as employees
- 14:21Speaker 1: of the school. So you'll see that. Jenny's a great question.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Jenk asked the question, Oh, do you think EJ will
- 14:29Speaker 1: be gone? No, he's been out on doing the visits
- 14:33Speaker 1: he's been out doing the selling and the recruiting. I
- 14:37Speaker 1: don't think he's gone. I think his contract gets renewed
- 14:39Speaker 1: here this week and it gets officially done during the war.
- 14:43Speaker 1: But speaking of contracts, though, Coop, we got a big
- 14:46Speaker 1: change coming. Pretty this is actually a pretty big one.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I think this is one.
- 14:53Speaker 2: And it happens again.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Blinking again if I see you, just fine.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happening. So as you.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Beautiful snow. Yeah, I'm back and it's a beautiful snow.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Thank you snow. I appreciate you disrespecting me in this weather.
- 15:13Speaker 1: I hate your guts. That's pointing to my window right now.
- 15:15Speaker 1: That's why. Uh, I'm back. So how'm a fight you
- 15:22Speaker 1: toe for? Don't you dare screenshot? I swear I will,
- 15:26Speaker 1: I will, I will find you and I will poke
- 15:30Speaker 1: you in your eye. Do not do me that way.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Jerry Schmidt, rumor has it, he is moving on from
- 15:42Speaker 1: straight the conditioning side to a new role and it's
- 15:46Speaker 1: like elite performance.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah, moving into this new role where you know he's
- 15:57Speaker 2: gonna step aside. Uh. This is a this is a
- 16:00Speaker 2: situation where Jerry came back to you. Uh, you know,
- 16:04Speaker 2: after a brief stint I think Lincoln had a little
- 16:06Speaker 2: something to do with him, you know, not being retained,
- 16:10Speaker 2: and you know he leaves over to Texas A and
- 16:14Speaker 2: m for for a short stint, comes back, and this
- 16:18Speaker 2: is one thing that I was talking about, is you
- 16:20Speaker 2: want to offer Jerry Schmidt is very very valuable to
- 16:24Speaker 2: this program and having him, you know, in some kind
- 16:28Speaker 2: of a support type of a role uh still here.
- 16:30Speaker 2: You know, that's obviously something that a lot of people
- 16:33Speaker 2: wanted to make decisions on. And so now he's going
- 16:36Speaker 2: to be stepping aside, and we're going to have We're
- 16:40Speaker 2: gonna have mister Dobson stepping in for taking over, got
- 16:45Speaker 2: a couple of other coaches in, so you know, it's
- 16:48Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a decision that a lot
- 16:51Speaker 2: of people have you know, really really seen, uh you know,
- 16:54Speaker 2: seem to you know, enjoy and felt good about. So
- 16:58Speaker 2: you'll get a the end of summertime with Schmidty, uh
- 17:03Speaker 2: you know types of stories. You know, those things have
- 17:05Speaker 2: been really really exciting for people to talk about.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Uh.
- 17:08Speaker 2: You know, jud Schmidt I had had a great had
- 17:12Speaker 2: a Jay might have to sacrifice a live chicken here
- 17:16Speaker 2: to uh to the internet gods but hey, there you go,
- 17:19Speaker 2: there you go.
- 17:20Speaker 1: You're you're we're not doing We're not sacrificing.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Clearly, I see you, clearly.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Yeah, keep going, continue. I'm listening to you. I'm in
- 17:27Speaker 1: the background. I keep here. You can hear you. Just fine.
- 17:29Speaker 1: It's just weird that everything else is acting weird. I
- 17:32Speaker 1: think everybody trying to stream because it's it's it's snowma
- 17:35Speaker 1: getting all the way through through the South, so everybody's
- 17:37Speaker 1: thinking they should be doing it at the same time
- 17:38Speaker 1: without realizing this is the time slot that we have
- 17:41Speaker 1: christened for ourselves.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Disrespect disrespectful and the Uh. But anyway, let me know,
- 17:50Speaker 2: I mean, what support what are your you know, what
- 17:53Speaker 2: are your feelings with this? Uh? You know, obviously there
- 17:56Speaker 2: there has been a lot of people who, you know, question,
- 18:00Speaker 2: did Jerry Schmid have a lot to do with the injuries?
- 18:03Speaker 2: Was it the the way that we were doing, you know,
- 18:06Speaker 2: doing practices. You know, you saw a ton of injuries
- 18:08Speaker 2: happened on the offensive side of the ball. Uh. You know,
- 18:11Speaker 2: Jay and I've been really, really, really really intense about
- 18:15Speaker 2: the fact that when you have such a you know,
- 18:17Speaker 2: it's such an aggressive, punishing defense that you're going to
- 18:20Speaker 2: see a lot of those type situations happen on the
- 18:24Speaker 2: offensive side, you know. So personally, I think Jerry Schmidt
- 18:30Speaker 2: moving into a role, you know, I think it is
- 18:33Speaker 2: a paradigm shift that's going to happen that we're going
- 18:35Speaker 2: to see more and more of over the next couple
- 18:37Speaker 2: of years. Uh. You know, as you see you know, coaches,
- 18:41Speaker 2: you know who you know have great ties to the program.
- 18:44Speaker 2: You know, if you can move them into a a
- 18:46Speaker 2: role like that, that's the that's the way that you
- 18:49Speaker 2: can you know, still keep them ready and so but
- 18:52Speaker 2: we're starting to see it already. Uh, you know some
- 18:54Speaker 2: of the spring test, the I guess the winter testing
- 18:57Speaker 2: numbers that you know, the income are starting to come
- 19:00Speaker 2: through and get after it. But Jerry Schmidt no longer
- 19:06Speaker 2: going to be the strength and conditioning coach at Oklahoma.
- 19:08Speaker 2: And I think that we'll probably see officials unless they
- 19:11Speaker 2: do it like Joe John Finley where they just don't
- 19:13Speaker 2: ever say anything about it. But but we'll probably see
- 19:16Speaker 2: something official here after the Border Regions meeting. Like you said,
- 19:18Speaker 2: it's on Thursday, Yeah, it's on Thursday.
- 19:22Speaker 1: They have the It starts on the twenty ninth, and
- 19:24Speaker 1: it'll be going I think twenty ninth and thirtieth, so
- 19:27Speaker 1: that's when that comes through. You'll have those changes, but
- 19:30Speaker 1: not Schmidty do a great but especially of this on
- 19:34Speaker 1: the defense is because of him, right, That's where that
- 19:37Speaker 1: comes from.
- 19:37Speaker 2: You know.
- 19:38Speaker 1: The funny thing is is that I see you think
- 19:39Speaker 1: peg City in the comments that his tactic will outbeit
- 19:42Speaker 1: it they weren't that. Literally what you saw were we
- 19:47Speaker 1: had one of the toughest defensive lines in the country
- 19:49Speaker 1: for a reason, right, Coop, Like, am I crazy to
- 19:51Speaker 1: even believe or think that?
- 19:53Speaker 2: I mean when it, like I said, when it's one
- 19:56Speaker 2: side of the ball and you see the focus of
- 19:59Speaker 2: the team and the you know what BV wanted this
- 20:02Speaker 2: team to be again a relentless, punishing defense, and when
- 20:06Speaker 2: you saw that side of the team just absolutely go crazy.
- 20:09Speaker 2: I mean it's hard. So obviously anybody has to go
- 20:16Speaker 2: into this type of you know, you know, this type
- 20:20Speaker 2: of coaching realm and make adjustments. And so you know,
- 20:25Speaker 2: maybe we'll see some adjustments from the strength and conditioning team.
- 20:28Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's you know, that's something that's just
- 20:31Speaker 2: news leadership, But I don't think it's because you know,
- 20:33Speaker 2: Jerry Schmidt was you know, still trying to run people
- 20:36Speaker 2: like he was training them for you know, World War
- 20:38Speaker 2: two or career or something like that, Like it's the
- 20:41Speaker 2: job is to get strong.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and bring in Dobson who was hired twenty twenty
- 20:49Speaker 1: two to the staff. James is a couple of things.
- 20:57Speaker 1: One he coached it at Nebraska during the was that
- 21:02Speaker 1: the second bow Polini era or or whatnot. They went
- 21:07Speaker 1: They only lost they lost four, no more than four
- 21:11Speaker 1: games that year. They won a minimum of nine games
- 21:13Speaker 1: in the like six years he was there, they were
- 21:15Speaker 1: like nine and four, ten and four, ten and four,
- 21:18Speaker 1: ten and four, nine and four, like they literally only
- 21:22Speaker 1: even won nine or ten games the entire time he
- 21:24Speaker 1: was there at Nebraska. And one of his main prodig
- 21:27Speaker 1: prodigies there was in Donakan Sue y'all know, didn't done Kansue.
- 21:31Speaker 1: That was a freak, like a legitimate freak, and Dobson
- 21:37Speaker 1: was the head trainer there for that. Now, Dobson does
- 21:41Speaker 1: do things a lot less old school, still with the
- 21:45Speaker 1: old school toughness, but more modern uses modern tech, very
- 21:50Speaker 1: very progressive in that capacity. He likes to make sure
- 21:54Speaker 1: everybody's tough and make sure that everybody still can cause problems.
- 22:02Speaker 1: So that's all that matters. So if you want to
- 22:05Speaker 1: maintain that tough like I told y'all to have the
- 22:08Speaker 1: type of team we want, you're gonna have collateral damage.
- 22:11Speaker 1: And speaking of that, that's where I think an actual
- 22:15Speaker 1: big adjustment's gonna happen, not only with the strength and conditioning,
- 22:18Speaker 1: but even practice for this squad. I know that the
- 22:21Speaker 1: staff has recognized that depth is now at a premium
- 22:29Speaker 1: in today's college football world. Players are looking for the
- 22:32Speaker 1: opportunity to start. And if your team is good, you
- 22:36Speaker 1: can't just stack talent on talent constantly. You can only
- 22:39Speaker 1: stack talent with young talent that is ready to move in.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And when you have those moments where the youngest talent
- 22:48Speaker 1: is more talented than the starting talent and they take over,
- 22:51Speaker 1: those guys bounce example, Ivon Jordan, he knew he wanted
- 22:54Speaker 1: to get on the field. He knew that he wasn't
- 22:57Speaker 1: gonna be able to be a starting corner, but he
- 23:00Speaker 1: can go play somewhere. Gentry Gentry knew that, hey, Cortland's
- 23:04Speaker 1: got it, can't do anything about that same Eli, So
- 23:07Speaker 1: Gentry's gone to Georgia, who could use another corner and
- 23:09Speaker 1: guess what, he's probably end up starting there right or
- 23:11Speaker 1: he's gonna at least be a very heavy rotational piece
- 23:14Speaker 1: if he's healthy. Jane Hardy goes to Colorado, He's starting
- 23:17Speaker 1: at Colorado. I'm just gonna tell you that right now.
- 23:19Speaker 1: He will be the starting safety there. And what matters
- 23:21Speaker 1: is is starting getting taped and playing. So with that
- 23:27Speaker 1: point being, you gotta adjust how you practice, how hard
- 23:32Speaker 1: you go, because your goal is to be healthy. Miami
- 23:36Speaker 1: was healthy end of the year. Indiana for the most part,
- 23:38Speaker 1: was healthy at the end of the year. You're gonna
- 23:41Speaker 1: have to build and train and practice so that your
- 23:44Speaker 1: body maintains being healthy. And so that being said, I
- 23:48Speaker 1: can see Oklahoma doing the same thing. The collateral damage
- 23:51Speaker 1: will not be there as much. We're gonna have to
- 23:56Speaker 1: cut back, to write Jimmy, We're gonna have to cut
- 23:59Speaker 1: back to make sure that we don't take each other out.
- 24:02Speaker 1: So that's something to keep in mind with how you'll
- 24:04Speaker 1: probably hear about practices and stuff like that going forward.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're you have to hit on your
- 24:12Speaker 2: evaluations more than probably you ever had to in the past,
- 24:17Speaker 2: because if you do lose those second tier guys like
- 24:22Speaker 2: a Marcus Strong, like a Davon Jordan, like a Jaden Hardy.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Now you have to go, all right, is my freshman
- 24:31Speaker 2: or my sophomore in those one or two spots going
- 24:35Speaker 2: to be able to hold it down while somebody recovers
- 24:39Speaker 2: from you know, hopefully a Dean here or there. But
- 24:42Speaker 2: it's football. I mean, injuries are a part of the game.
- 24:45Speaker 2: It's always been a part of the game. I mean,
- 24:47Speaker 2: obviously as as a Dinver broad Cos fan, like watching
- 24:50Speaker 2: trying to go to the Super Bowl with a guy
- 24:52Speaker 2: who hasn't played quarterback in two years. You know, that's
- 24:55Speaker 2: not it's not somewhere anybody wants to be in. But
- 24:58Speaker 2: it's saying, you know, at the same time, like being
- 25:00Speaker 2: healthy is somewhat of a of a lucky unlucky deal,
- 25:06Speaker 2: and sometimes it just crushes down on on certain teams.
- 25:11Speaker 2: And you know, we saw two years ago, sometimes you
- 25:15Speaker 2: can avoid the major injury. And that's where you see
- 25:18Speaker 2: a lot of people you know, with you know, conversations,
- 25:21Speaker 2: And it's any sport, I mean, it's basketball. Look at
- 25:23Speaker 2: the thunder right now. Uh, you know you're missing a
- 25:25Speaker 2: lot of guys. You look at you know, any of
- 25:28Speaker 2: the teams with in college football, and everybody's going to
- 25:32Speaker 2: hopefully that you can field some really good starters and
- 25:35Speaker 2: then you can as the year goes on, you can
- 25:37Speaker 2: get some of the young guys, uh snaps, which means
- 25:41Speaker 2: from Oklahoma, you're gonna want to see this year. We
- 25:45Speaker 2: got to I mean, we really really be good about
- 25:48Speaker 2: putting games that we can put away early so that
- 25:51Speaker 2: you can get some snaps for younger guys. You want
- 25:53Speaker 2: to be able to see, you know, if if you
- 25:56Speaker 2: go out against you know, in game one and get
- 25:59Speaker 2: a Jacob Curry or you know, some of the younger
- 26:03Speaker 2: linebackers in to you know, to to to see some
- 26:06Speaker 2: game action and not being knockdown drag outs every single
- 26:09Speaker 2: week because uh, BB will play people that he trusts.
- 26:13Speaker 2: I mean, that's why you see Courtland Gillery run out there.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Uh and you know, just kind of take it off
- 26:18Speaker 2: right right right from the beginning this year. But you're
- 26:22Speaker 2: not always going to have a guy come in as
- 26:24Speaker 2: a freshman and and be you know, a freshman All American.
- 26:27Speaker 2: That's you're not gonna be lucky like that all the time.
- 26:30Speaker 2: But gotta put gotta don't play with your food if
- 26:33Speaker 2: you want to you want to drive depth, don't play
- 26:36Speaker 2: with your food.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to make sure that you you
- 26:41Speaker 1: train at a level that can be replicated on the
- 26:46Speaker 1: game field while also not taking nobody out. That's gonna
- 26:49Speaker 1: be the hard part. I'm gonna be honest. It's not
- 26:51Speaker 1: gonna be easy for just the staff in general. We
- 26:55Speaker 1: we like to hit people. We like to make sure
- 26:57Speaker 1: we go out there and we're tough. Hey, if there's
- 26:59Speaker 1: anything we could do, truth be told, we really could
- 27:03Speaker 1: take a take a page out of the Indiana book.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Sig has a particular type of practice schedule, and I think,
- 27:11Speaker 1: honestly it it's similar to what you know Saban does.
- 27:13Speaker 1: It wasn't something that was that's just revolutionary. It's, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 1: we we do things in particular time. We try to
- 27:20Speaker 1: be as efficient as possible. We don't waste time, which
- 27:23Speaker 1: I don't think we do it here. I think we're
- 27:25Speaker 1: really good at that. But it's it's less hitting when
- 27:28Speaker 1: you don't need to hit MH. But you know your
- 27:31Speaker 1: players need to ring toughness. A good thing is though
- 27:33Speaker 1: I believe that this team, the staff, these players are
- 27:38Speaker 1: super tough. So I don't think that's gonna be UH.
- 27:41Speaker 1: That should not be an issue in itself. So well,
- 27:49Speaker 1: let's transition from there. Let's talk about the winner stuff.
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- 29:33Speaker 1: disrespectful for this evening, All right, Coop. I did a
- 29:37Speaker 1: video for Snowmagedton this weekend, and I kind of talked
- 29:41Speaker 1: about some of the newcomers at five Transfers five freshmen
- 29:46Speaker 1: that I feel like will be be very impactful. So
- 29:52Speaker 1: when I looked at my freshman to start, of course,
- 29:55Speaker 1: Jonathan Hatten's on my list, sounds like he showed up
- 29:59Speaker 1: at two hundred and twenty. So the listing that they
- 30:01Speaker 1: had on the numbers there appears to be from the
- 30:03Speaker 1: recruiting profile. He two twenty. He a big running back. Yeah,
- 30:08Speaker 1: is that who we're looking for? He's showing up. He
- 30:12Speaker 1: made a Zephyn Walker ass for a running back room
- 30:14Speaker 1: that needed some some definite depth, definitely competitive depth, and
- 30:21Speaker 1: it appears is gonna work out for us. Uh. Freshman wise,
- 30:24Speaker 1: who you like, who you excited about coming through? Cool?
- 30:29Speaker 2: I mean I always want to start out with a
- 30:34Speaker 2: guy like Jay Crow. Jake is a guy who when
- 30:38Speaker 2: you've seen whether it was down at IMG, he's playing
- 30:41Speaker 2: elevated competition.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Uh.
- 30:44Speaker 2: He goes to the camps, he has just destroyed people.
- 30:48Speaker 2: I think one of the one of the camps earlier
- 30:50Speaker 2: in the year. He goes out and he loses his
- 30:52Speaker 2: first rep and then he just comes back like a
- 30:54Speaker 2: tornado with a with a vengeance and just absolutely embarrasses
- 30:58Speaker 2: a lot of four and five star guys. And so
- 31:01Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna need more impact on the defensive line,
- 31:06Speaker 2: and so that's where you hope that you know, maybe
- 31:09Speaker 2: you get in a spot to where he can earn
- 31:12Speaker 2: some pass rush. Uh. You know when you look at him,
- 31:14Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people you know say something
- 31:16Speaker 2: like Dan Cody, I see some of the relentless pursuit
- 31:20Speaker 2: that you see, you know in the past, or you
- 31:24Speaker 2: know current Denver Bronco, Nick Benito. You know, he's very
- 31:27Speaker 2: very fast, very explosive, he's got great bend. He's got
- 31:31Speaker 2: a lot of the attributes that you have to go
- 31:33Speaker 2: out there and try to teach. And so I know
- 31:35Speaker 2: that you're gonna be running out with Taylor Wine, pj
- 31:38Speaker 2: adib Or, I, You're gonna have Dannie Okoye, and you
- 31:41Speaker 2: know some of the younger guys like Wuyatt Gilmour. But
- 31:44Speaker 2: if you can have Jay Crow come in and you know,
- 31:47Speaker 2: get himself, you know really going yeah. I mean Felix Ojoe,
- 31:51Speaker 2: you know who apparently everybody gets a chance to win
- 31:55Speaker 2: a rep against him, So he's just doing charity for everybody.
- 31:58Speaker 2: He's baiting us, He's he's bait us. But Jake Crell
- 32:02Speaker 2: is one that I'm really really excited to see because
- 32:04Speaker 2: I want to see him get some of the strengths
- 32:06Speaker 2: and conditioning. Uh, you know, as he gets a little
- 32:08Speaker 2: bit older, gets more of that, you know, early grown
- 32:11Speaker 2: man's strength on top of it.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Also, so the old line is actually bringing four guys
- 32:17Speaker 1: that have started at one point for Susi Foje, Mike
- 32:22Speaker 1: Law as well as epl. Technically I think heith Os
- 32:25Speaker 1: Eida did start a game once this year. I need
- 32:28Speaker 1: to go verify if he did. So in that case
- 32:30Speaker 1: that's true. Okay, you might be right, there might be five. Uh,
- 32:33Speaker 1: they're actually maybe five. I'm gonna verify that real quick
- 32:35Speaker 1: because that kind of that's a very good question because I.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Don't And and the transfer from Arkansas, I mean, he's
- 32:43Speaker 2: he started too, so I mean you're bringing him in too,
- 32:45Speaker 2: so I mean you've got a lot of starts. And
- 32:47Speaker 2: now it's finding, as always the best five and getting
- 32:51Speaker 2: those guys to stay healthy and you know, to learn.
- 32:55Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest misses that we had
- 32:57Speaker 2: this year on the offensive line, which now we're switching
- 32:59Speaker 2: subject sir, but you know, it is the fact that
- 33:03Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have like a you know, something
- 33:06Speaker 2: that we hung our hat on because there's so much
- 33:08Speaker 2: shuffling in and out, and so when you have you know,
- 33:11Speaker 2: Simmon's going out with the the concussions, you had several injuries.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I mean there were a lot of times that uh man,
- 33:18Speaker 2: I mean Fabichi Weiwa was out there playing you know
- 33:21Speaker 2: with h duck, duct tape, dreams and popsicle sticks, you know,
- 33:24Speaker 2: just barely held together. So you know, that offensive line
- 33:28Speaker 2: you need, all that experience is there. The snaps have
- 33:31Speaker 2: been there, so now it's the progression. Yep.
- 33:34Speaker 1: And that's a very good question here. Betlam asked the
- 33:38Speaker 1: question about how many snaps between them. Go ahead and
- 33:41Speaker 1: pull that up for y'all real quick. Let me go
- 33:43Speaker 1: pull the blocking up.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Yeah, while while you're looking that up, you know, because
- 33:48Speaker 2: again the original question you asked was, you know, freshman.
- 33:51Speaker 2: One of the five freshmen that you know we're excited
- 33:53Speaker 2: to see. I think another one that I'm really really
- 33:57Speaker 2: excited to see is you know, you you got the
- 34:00Speaker 2: easy uh you know, the easy picks like you you
- 34:02Speaker 2: just mentioned with uh, you know, guys like Jayden Pettitt.
- 34:07Speaker 2: You know he is, you know, obviously a big body,
- 34:10Speaker 2: but on the offensive defensive line. I mean I think
- 34:13Speaker 2: if Brian Harris and Deacon Schmidt are two guys that
- 34:17Speaker 2: this staff loves. Deacon Schmidt kind of reminds me and
- 34:21Speaker 2: I and this is going to you know, make people
- 34:23Speaker 2: maybe flinch a little bit. But the promise that Jake
- 34:26Speaker 2: Sexton showed so early that Deacon is a workhorse, you know,
- 34:32Speaker 2: that's what he's I love skill position, but let's be honest.
- 34:37Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be on the offensive line
- 34:39Speaker 2: is going to be you know, it is going to
- 34:40Speaker 2: take us about as far as we can go this year.
- 34:42Speaker 2: And if your defense, you know, does have a little
- 34:45Speaker 2: bit of the depth issues, you're gonna need the offense
- 34:47Speaker 2: to pull itswaight way more than than they did in
- 34:51Speaker 2: twenty five. So so yeah, two offense, two linemen between uh,
- 34:56Speaker 2: Deacon and and Brian Harris. Those are two guys that
- 34:58Speaker 2: I really want to see, you know, get in here
- 35:02Speaker 2: and get after it early.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Ace Hodges is the one that switched to center
- 35:12Speaker 1: but snaps wise on the offensive line two thousand, six
- 35:15Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three on those five players from Heath
- 35:18Speaker 1: to Fasusi, Foge, Mike La and EPL pretty darn good
- 35:24Speaker 1: and EPL was actually credited with uh, I'm sorry with
- 35:27Speaker 1: uh Osida was credited with seven starts, so he started
- 35:34Speaker 1: all the way up to O miss can't beat that, Yeah,
- 35:37Speaker 1: I think so it's actually pretty dark good. And EPL
- 35:41Speaker 1: took over from Tennessee Ford, which that's five starts, and
- 35:45Speaker 1: he started at the Illinois State game, so this six
- 35:47Speaker 1: starts for him last season. You got a lot more
- 35:50Speaker 1: experience on that line now than people anticipate. So epls
- 35:53Speaker 1: got over five hundred snaps on his career, Ozaida has
- 35:57Speaker 1: what he's got over a thousand snaps.
- 36:02Speaker 2: On his career in life for a thousand.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike clab and me see Oseida sitting at one
- 36:07Speaker 1: thousand and thirty two to be exact.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Uh.
- 36:10Speaker 1: For Susie at seven, I think he was at seven hundred. Uh,
- 36:14Speaker 1: MICHAELA seven ten for Susie is at six seventy six.
- 36:18Speaker 1: From last season, you got a ton of experience. I
- 36:21Speaker 1: got this be physical to go out there and push
- 36:23Speaker 1: people around. They have the opportunity to do it, and
- 36:25Speaker 1: truth be told, I think offensive line wise, you may
- 36:27Speaker 1: actually see osaidah with that. I was part of the
- 36:30Speaker 1: starting lineup again, and all they gotta do is just
- 36:32Speaker 1: go be bullies and run people over and I think
- 36:36Speaker 1: Dobson can get them to that point from there. Though,
- 36:39Speaker 1: back to the freshman conversation, of course, I know Hadden's
- 36:42Speaker 1: one that I am beloved, but I think players that
- 36:44Speaker 1: we aren't talking about enough. I think Daniel Odam is one.
- 36:46Speaker 1: He was the top you know, he was a top
- 36:47Speaker 1: one fifty player in the country at wide receiver six
- 36:50Speaker 1: to two coming in and roughly by two hundred pounds.
- 36:52Speaker 1: He's gonna I think he's gonna surprise some folks. Man.
- 36:55Speaker 1: He was one that a lot of people tried to
- 36:57Speaker 1: snatch from us, and he just kept he said he
- 36:59Speaker 1: would do some businesses like nah, I'm good, backed off
- 37:02Speaker 1: of them, and we even thought we were gonna lose him.
- 37:04Speaker 1: When j O'Neill uh decommitted and went to Florida State
- 37:09Speaker 1: stuck around, He's like, no, I like this, I'm good.
- 37:14Speaker 2: You've got a good wide receiver crop, You've got obviously
- 37:17Speaker 2: some good running backs Between the Zephyn Walker and Hattan,
- 37:21Speaker 2: A lot of those guys were people that you know,
- 37:23Speaker 2: everybody wanted where where you're where you're gonna see is
- 37:28Speaker 2: this was the you know, real first cycle that you had,
- 37:30Speaker 2: you know, the the great evals and I'm and I'm
- 37:32Speaker 2: kind of hearing already that uh, you know, our our
- 37:35Speaker 2: our ginger linebacker, uh has come in and has already
- 37:40Speaker 2: getting people, you know, to be kind of excited. So
- 37:43Speaker 2: Jacob Curry, you know, he's a Brent Vnable type of linebacker.
- 37:47Speaker 2: He is a hard worker. You've got the twins, the
- 37:51Speaker 2: jan drow brothers. You know those guys, you know they
- 37:54Speaker 2: live in the gym. And so the the culture is set,
- 37:58Speaker 2: all the offenses set, the defense is set. And if
- 38:02Speaker 2: there is anything that you're going to see is now
- 38:05Speaker 2: you're not trying to teach a defensive scheme to the
- 38:07Speaker 2: entire team. You're not trying to teach a offensive scheme
- 38:10Speaker 2: to the to the entire team. You're gonna be able
- 38:12Speaker 2: to see that. So hopefully offensive line a lot of
- 38:16Speaker 2: snaps that gives you a chance to run the offense
- 38:19Speaker 2: how you want to. And I know that there's a
- 38:21Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of you know, people who say, hey, listen, RPO,
- 38:24Speaker 2: stuff like I want to see that go away. It
- 38:27Speaker 2: was the same stuff that we saw when Gabriel was
- 38:29Speaker 2: here with Levy and then the same conversations we saw
- 38:34Speaker 2: with Jackson Arnold, Like, listen, if you're better on the
- 38:38Speaker 2: offensive line, some of that stuff gets better. And then
- 38:40Speaker 2: also if the talent on that receiver is a little
- 38:43Speaker 2: bit better, then then some of that gets better too.
- 38:46Speaker 2: So it's it's a it's a big year on the
- 38:48Speaker 2: offensive side because you need you need, you need people
- 38:52Speaker 2: to to to progress and you want to see John Montanna,
- 38:56Speaker 2: you know, like I said, it starts the offensive line.
- 38:58Speaker 2: And then the next one up is Materi with his eyes,
- 39:01Speaker 2: because if he has confidence in where he's going, knows
- 39:03Speaker 2: where he's supposed to be going, has good eyes with
- 39:06Speaker 2: what's going on the the the poor footweark typically follows
- 39:10Speaker 2: with the good eyes question.
- 39:12Speaker 1: Is does Jacob Curry snatch the Moniker, the ginger moniker
- 39:17Speaker 1: that everyone likes to toss around as his new name.
- 39:21Speaker 1: Will he steal that away from our other redhead.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Des idel line. I mean, you're gonna get the moniker
- 39:30Speaker 2: if you're out there making plays, that's plain and simple.
- 39:34Speaker 2: And if Heath can get himself healthy and get to
- 39:38Speaker 2: the spot. I mean there was a time when Heath
- 39:41Speaker 2: rotated in and everybody said, all right, this guy is
- 39:46Speaker 2: pushing folks around. Well, then the reason why he lost
- 39:48Speaker 2: his job injury and EPO came in and was pushing
- 39:52Speaker 2: folks around. So we got to get to that spot.
- 39:54Speaker 2: We got to find those those core nuances.
- 39:57Speaker 1: You know.
- 39:57Speaker 2: When we were in the GC counter with Lincoln here,
- 39:59Speaker 2: that's why we were known for. We ran it. We
- 40:01Speaker 2: ran it well, we ran it to a tee, and
- 40:03Speaker 2: it's what people wanted to come in and stop. This
- 40:06Speaker 2: past year we didn't have that. Therefore, we rotated in
- 40:10Speaker 2: a lot of different blocking schemes. And when you're rotating
- 40:13Speaker 2: different blocking schemes and you're not really good at anything
- 40:16Speaker 2: or great at anything specifically, you're kind of in a
- 40:20Speaker 2: search for what can we be good at? And if
- 40:23Speaker 2: you go a snokelohom a breakdown, if you want to
- 40:26Speaker 2: hear a guy talk about the offensive line in a
- 40:29Speaker 2: favorable or unfavorable way, the game is going to be
- 40:32Speaker 2: the first one that says, hey, you got to find
- 40:34Speaker 2: something that you're good at and you got to execute
- 40:37Speaker 2: it well. You can't piss poor execute it, you know.
- 40:41Speaker 2: And a lot of the time this past year also,
- 40:44Speaker 2: it wasn't even that the entire offensive line was failing.
- 40:47Speaker 2: It was you would have four guys kicking ass and
- 40:50Speaker 2: doing the right thing, and then you'd have one guy
- 40:52Speaker 2: that just ooof and whether it was a tied end
- 40:56Speaker 2: or whether it was an offensive lineman, you can't you
- 41:00Speaker 2: can't have those oofs. You got to you gotta get
- 41:02Speaker 2: out there and do it, do it right, because it's
- 41:05Speaker 2: hard for Jeometier to get his eyes correct when he's
- 41:09Speaker 2: seeing a guy just come unblocked at him, you know,
- 41:13Speaker 2: so intermittently, and that's gonna get him, that's gonna speed
- 41:16Speaker 2: him up. He's always gonna be thinking about that. So
- 41:18Speaker 2: the offensive line can do their job by being healthy
- 41:22Speaker 2: and being physical.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Yeah, being healthy and physical is critical if you want
- 41:27Speaker 1: to be successful here in you know, college football in
- 41:29Speaker 1: the SEC and all of that. And I think it
- 41:31Speaker 1: will get there defensively though, as I've been digging through
- 41:37Speaker 1: a lot of the film on the freshmen and are
- 41:38Speaker 1: coming in seeing the size of the jing Row twins
- 41:43Speaker 1: six foot roughly to ten, they're they're I mean, they're
- 41:49Speaker 1: already physical physically physical specimens right, They're already big, swollen.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how much further they can be elevated,
- 41:57Speaker 1: how much faster they can get, how much stronger they
- 41:59Speaker 1: can get, and how physical they are on the field
- 42:01Speaker 1: and hitting people. Was just going back watching their high
- 42:04Speaker 1: school tape. Though, Coop not gonna lie. They've got my
- 42:09Speaker 1: attention is more of underrated guys. I actually think one
- 42:11Speaker 1: of them one, if not both, may end up in
- 42:13Speaker 1: the two to three D at safety as well as linebacker. Cheatah.
- 42:17Speaker 1: More so than anything, I think they're both perfect for
- 42:20Speaker 1: the Brent Ventibles. Cheatah Bilt that's usually roughly a size
- 42:24Speaker 1: of a dB, but that hits like a linebacker and
- 42:27Speaker 1: the strong like a linebacker. The Reggie Powers basically is
- 42:31Speaker 1: like the perfect example of what Brent Vinibles looks like
- 42:38Speaker 1: looks for in one Cheetah, his other cheatsh is usually
- 42:41Speaker 1: ginormous human being. You know the Kend' Daniel sizes Isaiah
- 42:44Speaker 1: Simmons that the sign of color sizes. You know, if
- 42:46Speaker 1: you Mcalor would have got up to two fifty and
- 42:49Speaker 1: was able to play in coverage, he was perfect. Yeah,
- 42:53Speaker 1: that's what Bev tries to get his hands on. But yeah,
- 42:59Speaker 1: the question is going to be, how do how much
- 43:02Speaker 1: further did Jane Drew Twins go? They have gotten my
- 43:06Speaker 1: attention even more in watching the tape. They may be
- 43:09Speaker 1: some they may take some heads off. Keep your eyes open.
- 43:13Speaker 2: To that, especially on special teams. I mean, that's if
- 43:16Speaker 2: you want to get your name known, go do it
- 43:19Speaker 2: on special teams. I mean, I think there's a lot
- 43:21Speaker 2: of guys like uh, you know, Christian Moore, you know,
- 43:24Speaker 2: guys like markel Ford, some of those guys. You know,
- 43:28Speaker 2: you come in, you do your job, you become you know,
- 43:32Speaker 2: somebody that's coaching staff can depend on that your assignment
- 43:35Speaker 2: sounds and that's your efforts always there. You've You've got
- 43:38Speaker 2: a lot of guys who you know that that's where
- 43:41Speaker 2: they become, you know, the beginning of their you know
- 43:44Speaker 2: process is is on special teams and our special teams. Uh,
- 43:49Speaker 2: you know, I'd like to see I mean, I'd like
- 43:53Speaker 2: to see us, you know, get back to that spot
- 43:56Speaker 2: where you know, you know that you can create a
- 43:59Speaker 2: turnover on special teams, that you can hit guys hard
- 44:02Speaker 2: that they are going to be more willing to fair
- 44:04Speaker 2: catch the ball. And because you know, I think that
- 44:07Speaker 2: some field position times in some critical games, we uh,
- 44:11Speaker 2: you know, special team is gonna cost us this year.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So Lloyd asked the question here, Pretinia, which
- 44:17Speaker 1: one of the Jandel twins are you excited about both.
- 44:20Speaker 1: But Bow along Packer, I know that he has a
- 44:26Speaker 1: ran a four or five laser that's really good at his.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Side as he happens again, Yeah, there's.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I know right, Vin said, while you were talking Coop
- 44:42Speaker 1: zero problem nothing while Coop is talking nothing when it's
- 44:48Speaker 1: me issues anyway, No Bow runs. You know he's listed
- 44:56Speaker 1: as a four or five laser. I think is as well.
- 45:00Speaker 1: I think Nico's gonna want to be the one that
- 45:02Speaker 1: ends up playing the earliest truth be told because Boganowski
- 45:08Speaker 1: there's a spot right behind him ready for somebody to take.
- 45:12Speaker 1: I think Bow could find a way at that cheater
- 45:18Speaker 1: role right behind RP three. It just depends on how
- 45:21Speaker 1: well he picks up the book. Yeah, that cheat, that
- 45:24Speaker 1: that cheater roll is gonna be interesting going forward as
- 45:27Speaker 1: to who takes that spot with Reggie, because we ain't
- 45:31Speaker 1: got nobody really right. Sammy rotated there a little bit.
- 45:34Speaker 1: You had h Kendall Daniels RP three. You also had
- 45:39Speaker 1: a little bit of a mixture with I think Taylor
- 45:41Speaker 1: hein ran out there a little bit sometimes too. He
- 45:44Speaker 1: could be your big cheetah, especially if he may not
- 45:46Speaker 1: put on enough weight. But he may end up being
- 45:48Speaker 1: the big cheetah that's just in the way at you know,
- 45:51Speaker 1: six six to you know to twenty five to thirty.
- 45:54Speaker 1: But I do think that Bow is the one that's
- 45:57Speaker 1: probably the one's gonna end up on the field the
- 45:59Speaker 1: earliest when it comes today.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, this is this is
- 46:05Speaker 2: the type of recruiting class that you can definitely get
- 46:08Speaker 2: excited about. And uh, you know what I would say
- 46:12Speaker 2: as to the fans is you're going to hear stuff
- 46:15Speaker 2: during spring. You're going to hear stuff during testing. You're
- 46:18Speaker 2: going to hear stuff during fall about guys that are
- 46:20Speaker 2: just absolutely bawling out. Sometimes that is, hey, listen, I
- 46:25Speaker 2: want to recognize somebody who I think can take an
- 46:29Speaker 2: extra step, and I'm trying to give them that motivation.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hey, I want to recognize somebody that's behind somebody.
- 46:36Speaker 2: We want to be doing better. So I would just say,
- 46:38Speaker 2: you know, obviously be excited about some of these people.
- 46:43Speaker 2: You really didn't hear about Courtland Gillery doing much until
- 46:47Speaker 2: late late in the fall after several practices, and so
- 46:51Speaker 2: you know, just let them get in here. I mean,
- 46:53Speaker 2: obviously that's why you want everybody in here. Early. Hopefully
- 46:56Speaker 2: we get a spring game this year. I know that
- 46:59Speaker 2: that's going to probably be on the conversation piece for
- 47:03Speaker 2: you know, the Border Regions meeting, and just yeah, I
- 47:06Speaker 2: don't don't know if the new new guy is going
- 47:08Speaker 2: to have anything to say about that. But I think
- 47:11Speaker 2: that one of the big reasons why you didn't do
- 47:13Speaker 2: the spring game is so that you could avoid some
- 47:16Speaker 2: of that spring transfer portal, you know, Shenanigans. But now
- 47:21Speaker 2: that you don't have that, maybe we'll see the return
- 47:23Speaker 2: of the transfer portal exactly the spring game.
- 47:27Speaker 1: Spring game, Well, carl I asked a really good question European.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Who was one freshman All American you can see on
- 47:35Speaker 1: the offensive side and one on defense? Freshman All Americans?
- 47:39Speaker 1: All Right, If I was to have to pick one
- 47:41Speaker 1: on offense, Jonathan Hadden, that's gonna be my pick. I'm
- 47:46Speaker 1: gonna stick to.
- 47:46Speaker 2: It for me and Jay. I think it's important to
- 47:50Speaker 2: say why too, we did get Lloyd Devant. You do
- 47:56Speaker 2: have you do have the two incumbent, but I think
- 48:01Speaker 2: that both ex rob Andory are going to be mending
- 48:04Speaker 2: during the spring and it's going to give Hatton an
- 48:06Speaker 2: opportunity to come in. Hatton I mean, it's hard to
- 48:10Speaker 2: say things like this and not get people overly excited.
- 48:13Speaker 2: But Jonathan Hatton is an Adrian Peterson comp Like, that's
- 48:17Speaker 2: that's who people see. They see Adrian Peterson, they see
- 48:22Speaker 2: oh goodness, gracious, the the LSU running back that was
- 48:26Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette. You know, they see guys like that when
- 48:29Speaker 2: you see Jonathan Hatten, like, there's a reason why he
- 48:33Speaker 2: was very very very highly sought after. And I think
- 48:36Speaker 2: that if Hatton gets the opportunity to really start from
- 48:40Speaker 2: the get go, you know, and make the job his
- 48:43Speaker 2: to lose, and you know, as the two guys recover,
- 48:49Speaker 2: he hits a leg up. I just don't know if
- 48:50Speaker 2: there's anybody else outside of maybe Petit. I don't know
- 48:56Speaker 2: if there's anybody else who has like that that path
- 48:58Speaker 2: to overcome, you know, somebody who's already been on the
- 49:02Speaker 2: team or a transfer portal guy right from the get go.
- 49:09Speaker 1: It's fair point defense. Ifiles a pick of defensive All
- 49:12Speaker 1: American on there right now, it's probably Jake Crill probably
- 49:17Speaker 1: the easiest pick. I could see him finding a way
- 49:20Speaker 1: to rotate with age. You know, we got a lot
- 49:21Speaker 1: of edges, We got a lot more Edges. I thought
- 49:25Speaker 1: he could sneak his way in there and make himself
- 49:29Speaker 1: a freshman All American. I think he's probably I'd say
- 49:33Speaker 1: it's probably him out of all of them.
- 49:40Speaker 2: Yeah, because typically I would say, let's go with again
- 49:45Speaker 2: a Brian Harris. If Brian Harris balls out, like if
- 49:50Speaker 2: he's better than both Jadon Jackson and David Stone, like,
- 49:53Speaker 2: we have ourselves a really, really good problem. But I
- 49:57Speaker 2: don't think that it's very easy to be in a
- 49:59Speaker 2: freshman All American, you know, running as the number three
- 50:02Speaker 2: or number four guy. You know, we saw Jayden Jackson
- 50:05Speaker 2: kind of in and out, you know, his freshman year,
- 50:08Speaker 2: and he didn't get that Moniker. Now on the defensive side,
- 50:12Speaker 2: I think it could be a little bit easier just
- 50:14Speaker 2: because of the fact that you have a lot of
- 50:17Speaker 2: attention people know that this defense is stocked full of playmakers.
- 50:22Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you've got he's gonna have to
- 50:26Speaker 2: plow through guys like Trent Wilson, you know, on the
- 50:30Speaker 2: inside as the defensive tackles, you're gonna have to play
- 50:32Speaker 2: out plow through Trent Wilson, You're gonna have to go
- 50:34Speaker 2: through David and Jaden and potentially Nigel. So there's there's
- 50:39Speaker 2: there's a lot of traffic out in front of him,
- 50:42Speaker 2: so I'll go crazy, I'll go crazy. Jane markel Ford,
- 50:48Speaker 2: I think he's one that I think he's one that
- 50:52Speaker 2: folks could kind of pay attention to because he's got
- 50:55Speaker 2: that same mentality of Courtland Gillery and you can maybe
- 51:02Speaker 2: see him at the cheatah spot or maybe see him
- 51:05Speaker 2: at a safety spot if you get opportunity to have.
- 51:10Speaker 2: You know, you got O'maron Robinson back there, You've got
- 51:13Speaker 2: Peyton Bowen and you've got Boganowski and I'm just gonna
- 51:18Speaker 2: say we we like to play a lot of safeties
- 51:20Speaker 2: and there's nobody like you mentioned, nobody back behind reg
- 51:24Speaker 2: as far as like the Cheetah spot goes. So you know, God, God,
- 51:28Speaker 2: you know, forbid any type of an injury on the
- 51:31Speaker 2: safety room. But markel Ford's one of those guys that
- 51:34Speaker 2: I think that's it, that's a good one to pay
- 51:35Speaker 2: attention to because I think he has he has a
- 51:38Speaker 2: couple of different paths.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Yep. Markl Ford's a really good one. I remember, you
- 51:45Speaker 1: know later in the in the cycle picking him up.
- 51:49Speaker 1: He likes to hit two like the good thing is
- 51:51Speaker 1: there's a lot of hits like like make it try more.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Go to Christian Moore, He's one that could be a shocker.
- 51:58Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me at the linebacker room is
- 52:01Speaker 1: I need to see who's gonna who would be able
- 52:04Speaker 1: to overtake like Nesta Marcus James based upon how that
- 52:13Speaker 1: room operates, right, I guess the toughest position to play
- 52:16Speaker 1: in a Breadventable's defense. He requires so much of them
- 52:18Speaker 1: and some people can come in and play like that
- 52:20Speaker 1: very well. Sometimes it takes time, and I think, to me,
- 52:24Speaker 1: that's what makes it tough at the linebacker spot for
- 52:27Speaker 1: me is seeing if someone can go in there and
- 52:31Speaker 1: really push those out guys out the way. Because I
- 52:32Speaker 1: think Nest is going to be really good this year.
- 52:34Speaker 1: I think this is the year he breaks out. Same
- 52:37Speaker 1: thing even with Marcus James. Think Marcus James shows up
- 52:40Speaker 1: and surprises a lot of folks. Also, all right, transfers
- 52:47Speaker 1: offensive transfer who's one that you think could who's gonna
- 52:54Speaker 1: be the game changer for you? Because we had a
- 52:57Speaker 1: lot of them on offense.
- 53:01Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me how about this? I
- 53:05Speaker 2: feel like I know where you're gonna go. So maybe
- 53:10Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Marian Harris on the offensive line.
- 53:14Speaker 2: I think he brings toughness. I think he brings some experience.
- 53:19Speaker 2: I think that you can lock down, you know, between
- 53:23Speaker 2: him and fo j you can really find that right
- 53:27Speaker 2: side of the offensive line, and this offensive line will
- 53:30Speaker 2: get a lot of focus if it increases, especially with
- 53:34Speaker 2: the star power that you have up there. A lot
- 53:36Speaker 2: of people like what EPL does. A lot of people
- 53:38Speaker 2: like you know, Michael Vasousi as a guy who is
- 53:41Speaker 2: a five star. If he makes his jump, you know
- 53:43Speaker 2: people are gonna start, you know, having the whispers of
- 53:45Speaker 2: him being you know, a first round draft pick and
- 53:48Speaker 2: another OU offensive liner. So yeah, I mean I would.
- 53:52Speaker 2: I would say Marion Harris the right the six seven,
- 53:55Speaker 2: three seventy tackle, that's a big boy.
- 53:59Speaker 1: As a big boy, that's an interesting pick up. I'm
- 54:03Speaker 1: be honest. I don't know if Marion takes to starting
- 54:06Speaker 1: spot away from Fogie yet. I don't know. Well, I
- 54:10Speaker 1: have to see when I say that, and I'll due
- 54:12Speaker 1: respect to Marian Harris, but Foge and FASUSI they've done
- 54:17Speaker 1: enough to me to where they're gonna it's gonna be
- 54:20Speaker 1: hard to take the spot to me. I think the
- 54:23Speaker 1: sleeper pick and I'm right there with you, true, Okay,
- 54:25Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Rocky Beers. We put a lot
- 54:29Speaker 1: of good talent in Treil Harris is Treil Harris is
- 54:32Speaker 1: gonna do some things. He's gonna I think he'll be
- 54:34Speaker 1: another Isaiah Satana, but more possession wise and offense. The
- 54:40Speaker 1: question to me is how much do we actually throw
- 54:42Speaker 1: this year? And not that we can't throw, just how
- 54:45Speaker 1: much do we do throw? Like if our goal is
- 54:46Speaker 1: gonna be to run it down people's throats, take advantage
- 54:49Speaker 1: of that burn clock, you may end up having to
- 54:53Speaker 1: spread around a lot of catches, similar to what Texas
- 54:55Speaker 1: A and M did. They had You had conception own
- 54:59Speaker 1: as well as Craver, both at nine hundred yards receiving
- 55:02Speaker 1: really sixty something catches, but no one was able to
- 55:06Speaker 1: go higher because he was able to spread it around
- 55:08Speaker 1: a lot. I see that here too, But I see
- 55:11Speaker 1: Trail really doing some big stuff. But I think Rocky
- 55:12Speaker 1: Bears is gonna end up being a Geryon Cannick with
- 55:16Speaker 1: a lot more tight end this to.
- 55:18Speaker 2: Him tight end skill sets, tight end, I like it.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Tight end.
- 55:22Speaker 1: This tight end skill set to me is that like
- 55:26Speaker 1: I think that his skills, he's gonna go in and
- 55:29Speaker 1: people are gonna underestimate him, like you're gonna see Hayden
- 55:31Speaker 1: Hansen as your starting tight end. He's gonna be the
- 55:33Speaker 1: one to block, and he's gonna be the one hit
- 55:35Speaker 1: the flats. He's gonna be one right in the middle short.
- 55:37Speaker 1: I think Rocky's gonna go run right past the linebacker
- 55:40Speaker 1: and be wide opening across the middle, catching like Jerry
- 55:41Speaker 1: Cannon did on a regular basis, but also break tackles
- 55:44Speaker 1: and keep going for touchdowns. I think you're gonna get
- 55:47Speaker 1: that out of Rocky Bears and he's older. It hurts
- 55:50Speaker 1: when you're older and you have that type of skill set.
- 55:52Speaker 1: That's the offensive guy I'm looking at the most because
- 55:54Speaker 1: I already know you're probably gonna see a lot like
- 55:58Speaker 1: I like some of the pickups we got, like the
- 56:00Speaker 1: Peyton Joseph was a great depth pickup. He's young, and
- 56:04Speaker 1: in time, he's gonna end up pushing his way to
- 56:05Speaker 1: a starting spot. No concerns about him whatsoever. I think
- 56:09Speaker 1: he does end up starting here in the next year
- 56:11Speaker 1: or two. Same thing with Caleb. I think he may
- 56:15Speaker 1: end up being your starting center next season. And then
- 56:18Speaker 1: you know, you go work with your young guys Ace Hodges,
- 56:21Speaker 1: Owen Hollendback, who we're hoping to really turn out into something.
- 56:25Speaker 1: You may see them come in twenty seven or even
- 56:29Speaker 1: twenty eight. But I do think that Rocky's gonna be.
- 56:36Speaker 2: That dude.
- 56:37Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the one that's gonna show
- 56:38Speaker 1: up and be what Satannia was for us last year,
- 56:42Speaker 1: not playing like Satanna but being a very impactful player,
- 56:46Speaker 1: defense portal guy. I'm gonna go ahead and just say,
- 56:48Speaker 1: Cole Sullivan is your next quote unquote Danny Stutsman, hierarchy duke.
- 56:54Speaker 1: They're about the same size. I know Danny looks ginormous
- 56:58Speaker 1: because he looks like a gentleman's human being. Cole is
- 57:00Speaker 1: also six three thirty five ish. He's a big dude.
- 57:04Speaker 1: He's about what Danny is in the NFL right now,
- 57:08Speaker 1: and Cole has to me a faster first step. That
- 57:14Speaker 1: to me, is gonna be the one player that keeps
- 57:17Speaker 1: the defense consistent and keeps it strong in the hands
- 57:22Speaker 1: of Cole Solon But you got, yeah, I.
- 57:25Speaker 2: Mean that's a that's it. So if I if I
- 57:29Speaker 2: had to say, there's somebody that is extremely intriguing to
- 57:33Speaker 2: me because the the raw talents. It's Kenny Ozawalu.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Oh man, God, yeah, I was gonna pick him, but
- 57:41Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get it to Coop. Then
- 57:42Speaker 1: Coop's got some stuff to say about him.
- 57:45Speaker 2: I think that he is so versatile in how you
- 57:48Speaker 2: can use him. I think that he can play inside.
- 57:50Speaker 2: I think he can play inside in a g baby
- 57:53Speaker 2: type of you know, he's up umber two eighty already
- 57:57Speaker 2: and sitting there at six four. So I think he's
- 57:59Speaker 2: a guy who you can bring in on the inside
- 58:02Speaker 2: and kind of do that that that that's that speed rush.
- 58:06Speaker 2: You know, he can factor in there. I also think
- 58:09Speaker 2: that in a lot of the sets where we run
- 58:12Speaker 2: to where we have the edge drop out, I think
- 58:15Speaker 2: that he can stunt to the outside and really put uh,
- 58:20Speaker 2: you know, a decision and put the the guard in
- 58:23Speaker 2: conflict because I think that the guard tackle combination, they're
- 58:27Speaker 2: going to try to pass him off or pay attention
- 58:29Speaker 2: to what he's doing. And I think that he can
- 58:31Speaker 2: win against the guard. I think he can win against
- 58:33Speaker 2: the tackle. So if I say on the offensive, you know,
- 58:37Speaker 2: bringing him in like that, that's that's one that I'm
- 58:40Speaker 2: really really intrigued to see from UTSA like he's we
- 58:43Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of guys from UTSA get the
- 58:46Speaker 2: transfer portal, go places and actually do some great things. Yep.
- 58:51Speaker 1: From there, keny Ozawalla was a very good pick and
- 58:58Speaker 1: coming in at his side, I think he's like two
- 59:00Speaker 1: aventy something when he you know what he was listed
- 59:03Speaker 1: as in the portal, he's probably bigger than that. But
- 59:06Speaker 1: if he's there, him and Nigel Smith going to be
- 59:10Speaker 1: terrifying on the interior at the two ninety range is
- 59:14Speaker 1: where he's probably gonna be playing it. Yeah, that's terrifying
- 59:17Speaker 1: for a dude as athletic as he was watching him
- 59:19Speaker 1: on tape, I mean terrifying.
- 59:22Speaker 2: He's a guy that a lot of people were recruiting
- 59:24Speaker 2: at edge and that's a giant damn edge. And so
- 59:27Speaker 2: that's where I think that, like I said, you got
- 59:31Speaker 2: you got a lot of people, and you got a
- 59:33Speaker 2: lot of toys to play with on this defensive line.
- 59:36Speaker 2: And right now I would say that you know, going
- 59:39Speaker 2: into this past year, you knew that you had Dom,
- 59:41Speaker 2: you knew that you had g Baby, you knew that
- 59:44Speaker 2: you had Jaden, and then you were hoping that David
- 59:47Speaker 2: Stone took a jump. Well, David Stone took a jump.
- 59:49Speaker 2: David soon is going to be the best defensive tackle
- 59:52Speaker 2: on this team, and Jaden Jackson is going to continue
- 59:54Speaker 2: to do what he does. And I think that when
- 59:57Speaker 2: you have the options with the Nigel Smith, with the
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Trent Wilson, with a Kenny Ozawalu, Like, you've got a
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: lot of those guys who if you see a jump
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: in again the coaching, you know, he's gonna be working
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: with Javison Bates and Brent Venables, you know, really just
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: getting them coached up a little bit better. Yep. I
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: mean you if Nigel Smith turns into a really good
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: player and Kenny turns into a really good player, and
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: Trent Wilson continues his progression, like, yeah, you're back to
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: rotating five or six dudes there in the middle.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Oh man, that's the interior rotations got me excited. I'm
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: ready to see Nigel breakout. I'm ready to see Kenny
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: mixed into their trip Wilson Ready is he that dude?
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Is Jacob Henry ready to make his way up the
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: chart and show us why he's the son of the
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: world's strongest man. I am very intrigued to see how
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: that moves up the edges. Man, we're young, but we
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: got a lot of dudes that could do something at
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: the edge spot, Like you're the front seven to me
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: is not I'm not as I'm not concerned about the
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: front seven as I thought I would be when I
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: came into the season, when I really started digging into
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: the roster, I'm like, Oh, I mean PJ and Danny
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: on one side, going, you got Taylor, Taylor Wine as
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: well as why Gilmore. Don't sleep on why Gilmore? He
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: could be your next Taylor Haunt set up, because I
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: remember when when he came in and some clean up
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: duty and he got his first sack early this year,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's exactly what Wine did
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: last year. And we were like, Oh, this dude could
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: give us something not gonna be not gonna be bothered
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: or afraid about that. So very excited on that end.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Let's look at some of these questions we've got and
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: then we'll wrap him get of here. Rymu Lemon asked
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: a quick question of strength coach, how do you feel
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: about the new strength coach? But he also had his
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: question shout out Lemon, how we have we heard if
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: there's any change at the head of the med staff.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: So uh, First, I like the James Dobson pick up.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Talked about it earlier in the in the Stream. But
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: the one thing I appreciate is that he worked at
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: Nebraska and he had in Donna can Sue. He also
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: has worked in the SEC. He was at Vanderbilt with
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: Derek Mason for a few years. They weren't all that great,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: but they were still a physical team and people talked
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: about how there was a pain in the butt to
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: deal with. He uses modern medicine. He's very progressive in
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: how he does things. Still has an old school flare
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: we should be tougher and we should hopefully be more healthy.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: I'm here for it. Cool.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, you now let someone
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: who is going to you know, he's been in here
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: for a little bit, he's seen and heards, you know,
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: the positives. Now you get you know, he's going to
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: do a lot of the stuff that Jerry Schmidt did
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: because he was he's been with him. You also get
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: your chance to be the man to do some new
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: and young things, some new new options there. So yeah,
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: that's uh. I mean again, it's it's will we know.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if we go out and we see,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: you know, a drop off in the toughness, like maybe
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: that would be a red flag. But I mean we'll
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: see here pretty soon. You want to see those gains happen.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: I personally think that, and I've had this conversation with
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: uh with a couple of people, but you know, you
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: got you got to make sure that the gains are
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: measured and happen in a way that your body, the
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: body can tolerate it. Not every single person's that, you know,
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: the same if you have guys throwing on twenty five
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: pounds in an offseason, yeah they've gained more muscle, but
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: it takes a little bit of time for the ligaments
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: for the joints to catch up too. And so I'm
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: wondering if that's led to some of the injuries. And
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: so I'm really interested to see how how that kind
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: of plays out and a new sports science methodology on it.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: As far as like the head of the medstaff, I
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: know they made some changes last year, and you know,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: I've heard some people. You know, we talked to coach Dent,
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Isaiah try Dent's dad, not super you know, you know
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: against the med staff, even though that he was a
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: guy that's that you know, his son had been injured
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: a lot. But they have started making changes and you know,
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: we'll see if there's a little bit more because I
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: don't think that you saw like the slew of injuries
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: like you did two years ago, happened this past year
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: exactly same same cats, stayed injured, stayed injured.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that is the thing I did notice
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: as well, is it seemed to be recurring as well.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: Do you think Roger Denny will bring back the spring game? No,
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: because it's not in Roger Denny's wielhouse. That's Ober Inventables.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say they'll have another spring screamage like
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: last year the combine quote unquote. I had fun. I
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: got to watch the drills and stuff and got some
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: good b roll footage, and I'm hoping to do that
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: once again. So yeah, I thought it was cool. I
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: don't think but I don't think they bring it back.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that I.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: Think they do. I think they do it in the manner,
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: not that it's going to be like it was two
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: years ago and beyond. I think it's gonna be a
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: situation to where they still call it like the combine
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: type of a deal. But when it all boils down
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: to it, I mean you really get the people that
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: were there to see, you know, the team, Like, do
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: you get to see good on good go at it
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: for a half. Now we're not going to see that.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to, especially with the previous
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: you know, a topic on the depth. But let's see
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: what happens with you know, some of the younger guys.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: Let's you know, I want to see what happens when
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: you get those out there, so maybe you see more situational.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: But I mean last year wasn't too much different than
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: the previous years. They just didn't call it spring game.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Yep. Who's the defensive end from Wagner That alex Xander
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: shield Knight. Nice and I've heard good things about him.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Alexil Knight. Why get War's from Minnesota. He's the Minnesota kid,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: be honest, surprising in Portal and go cleat closer to home.
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: But he probably didn't want to deal with the snow
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: that's up there. You know he's got snow here too.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Just you know that's funny. But no, I've heard good
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: things about Why Give More and Alyx Chield Knight, so
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: keep your eyes open on both. Another good question here
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: from Chewe ok is there any word on Owen's situation. It's, Oh,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: you need to get a judge in Oklahoma to rule it.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: He ain't coming back that dude Gown. It sounds like
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: that situation for him. What hurts him is is that
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: context wise, he doesn't have the same argument as everybody
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: else that keeps getting this stuff, getting these additional years
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: of eligibility. He hasn't had a season ending injury that
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: ended his season multiple times very early before the season
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: got going. That's how TJ. Finley has gotten like nine years.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: It's because he's had multiple season ending injuries that has
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: held him from being able to finish the year. Owen
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: has it. Owen had his year and lacrosse they don't
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: have a red shirt rule, and then he's played, you know,
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: he's played four years of collegiate sports fully and unfortunately
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: that counts. So I don't think he's gonna get that.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: All the other players, like I said that we're seeing it,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: are getting these they're getting it because they've got other
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: they they have legitimate medical red shirt arguments, and that's
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: what they're giving him his medical red shirts, which sucks.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: But the same time, you know, games a game plus.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I think that at this point, Owen, you know, from
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: what I'm understanding, Owen got a pretty favorable draft grade,
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: and so I bet he's gone regardless. But you know,
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: right now, you're you're waiting, and you know he's gotta
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: he's got to you know, he's had to mentally be committed,
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: you know, to you know, prepping himself for the nfl
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: R for hell, the past month, and so you know
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: it'd be hard for him to come back.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: So yeah, and Trinidad, Chambler says, is different because it's
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: they're using the JUCO rules similar to what Diego Pavia
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: did even though he played D two. They're they're they're
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: playing that one. I don't know if Chamberliss ends up,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: he may get like an injunction. For now, I don't
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: think he plays next season. I'm just gonna be honest.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to say, now you
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: play D two ball JUCO. There's arguments that can be
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: made there because it's only two years of ball. Anyway,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: you have to transfer out to play, uh, additionally, and
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: so I got how they gave Pabia's extra year because
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: of the Juco piece. I don't think that Chamblis is
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: gonna actually finish out like that. How will we grade
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: Naggie's first full cycle cooped? I love this question because
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. How would
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: I actually rate how Naggy did this time around in
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: the portal. I'm gonna give him a I'm gonna give
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: him a I'm gonna give him a B plus, and
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: I give him a B plus specifically because he hit
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: the main spots we needed, which was really all on
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: offense ye receivers. He has some additional wide receivers. After
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: most of your wide receivers bounced out, you grab tight
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: ends because we needed more tight ends, and you got
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: yourself a running back that's a really good returner, so
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Satania didn't have to focus on return game. He could
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: focus on being just the wide receiver that you need
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: every game. I didn't slide it into an A because
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: I B plus Cole Sullivan was huge. I wanted one
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: more defensive player, possibly a safety, but we didn't get that,
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: or actually one more linebacker. We haven't got that yet,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: so I gave it to a B plus. I think
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: he's right there at the cuss of an A. If
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: we add one more linebacker, then I can give a
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: what about you? Cool?
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm going with a bat like. Listen,
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to look at did
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: we go get one of the marquee guys like a
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: cam Coleman. No, we did not, And I will be
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: honest with you. I think I think that when you
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: spend that egregious amount of money, like if if all
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: oh you needed was a wide receiver, I think that
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: that's a play that you have. I think we needed
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: to get so much more talent in that room, and
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: we had so many more needs in several different areas,
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: getting some experience and some depth, you know, behind the
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: for the offensive line. But you know, you go get
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Cole Sullivan. I think that that is an absolutely just
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: phenomenal pickup. I like Trel Harris, I like the youth
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: with partner her living zone. But I think that the
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: only thing I could say is like if if we
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: would have somehow just made a steer at defensive tackle,
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: which I still you know, as you just heard me
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: talk about Kenny Oswalow earlier, like, I think that he
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: ends up maybe being that. I mean, I think that
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: we just didn't see that. But I think for the
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: money that we went out and spent, like we we
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: we got a good good amount of stuff, And so
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: I'll give him a bat now giving you know, transfer
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: portal and freshman classes like grades, it's based off of
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: what people are telling us about them. If you know,
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: and Oswala comes in here and ends up as like
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: an all conference type of a player, if Cole Sullivan
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: ends up as you know, an all conference you know
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: type of a player. You know, those that that that
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: potentially like that grade goes up to an A to
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: an A minus. So you know, we'll see what happens.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: Same. I'm I'm waiting to see what the actual production
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: looks like. But I'm comfortable with given to be plus
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: because I really do like the wide receiver pickups. I'm
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: very very very very excited about Trail Parker right, Like,
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: I like how we built we're building up in that
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: additional room and then but it also leaves space for
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: the young receivers that we've been excited about getting to
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: actually play as well too. That to me is very critical.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: So I like, I'm in alliance with you. All B
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: plus is where I'm at. But uh yeah, Boomer sooner
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: Setana's numbers is actually better. Cam Coleman's Cam is just
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: a freak. He's a freak. And I don't know why
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: owen t you say aiming for big names. Big names
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: don't mean shit. It's production and we got production. You
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: got players that can go in and and it can start.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: You brought in a new linebacker that's gonna start and
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: who's really good. Uh, who was a part of a
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: top fifteen defense. You took their starting linebacker from Michigan.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: They weren't happy about that. I promise you that Trail
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: was one of the best wide receivers in the ACC.
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: You got a big, big play player in that Satania's back.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: I always remember, retention is just as expensive as acquisition. Actually,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: retention can be a little bit more expensive nowadays, because
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: as these players get to you start bringing in new kids.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: Your current players know what they're being paid, and they're
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: just like, because it's always out there, the people put
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: that in. People put the portal information out the way
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: more than the freshman information. And so your current roster's like, hey,
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: make sure I'm taking care of too, and this staff
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: does that. So I don't care about big names. I
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: don't want big names. I want players that produce. I
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: want you to show me what you done production. Give
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: me some dudes that you I also have ridiculous upside
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: to go with it. That's what's most important to me.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: Trail Parker, fantastic pickups to go along with Satanga who
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: had nine hundred yards and eight touchdowns seven touchdowns this
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: past season. You you just put yourself in a situation
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: as big Rocky Beers seven touchdowns as a tight end
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Hayatee Hansen who's built to block right coop. You know
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You look at the players we brought in.
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: We brought in the ones that we need because we've
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: got good players on our roster. Now we went ten
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: to two four reasons.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't need you didn't need massive names
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: on the offensive line, you didn't need you didn't need,
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: I mean hardly anything except for a starting linebacker on defense.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: That's that's hard. I mean, we weren't going to the
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: If David Stone would have hit the transfer portal, it
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: h'd have been one of the top two or three
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: names in the portal and definitely offensive lineman, definitely the
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: time defensive lineman. Uh, Jayden Jackson, same thing. If Kip
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: lewis same thing. We essentially we got him back. And
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: so there's that portion there too, because yeah, I mean
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: I would say retention wise, I would give us an
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: a on retention.
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you, if you, if you add in
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: the players that we were able to retain. PJ hit
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: the portal for like thirty five seconds and game back out.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. We retained a lot of the
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: players that we really needed to retain. Like I would
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: have loved to had Samuel Maseigu stay. But you know
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: the problem with the situation with the Sami he had
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: one year left. He wasn't going to start. You're not
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: starting him over Kip who came back. If Kip didn't
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: come back, Sammy stakes.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because he's probably potentially so. But like
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: I said, I think with Kip coming back when it
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: comes time to twenty twenty six season, Kip coming back
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: with humongous it was massive. Same thing with Jometier, Like
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: you didn't have to go start that back over again.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Let's also be honest, there were criticize the critic criticisms
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: about Jometier prior to breaking his thumb, but he also
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: was the favorite for the Heisman Trophy until he broke
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: his throat. And so you go do that, this team
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: got stronger. I don't you know, I think that if
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: you go out and get a cam Coleman, you probably
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: don't get Cole Sullivan. You probably don't get any other
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: wide receivers worth of damn. You probably don't get some
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: of the younger pieces guys.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: You know guys that we got like Jack Van Doorslayer,
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: you know, the tight end. He's young. You needed to
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: get him in here. Cole Sullivan, if I'm not wrong,
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: he's going to be a sophomore. You know, you got
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of those guys. And so
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: we've got younger folks that you know can come in
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully earned them a spot for you know,
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: two years from now. So it's uh, I think that
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: you look at a Texas, Texas really feels like they
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: crushed it because they got a cam Coleman, because they
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: got a Hollywood smothers. I mean, who are they? I
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: mean their offensive line is a is a massive, massive
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: question mark. I mean they did not addrect that at all.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: I mean at all. So if you can't block, House
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: came going to catch the ball, arch Manning was bouncing
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: balls into all the his guys and all his receivers.
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: This past year, they didn't do that. They didn't really
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: get get great on you know, on the defensive side either,
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: and they lost some They're gonna lose some players. So
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: I would rather have a solid straight through and listen, guys,
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: I like Hollywood's mothers. I said it in our chat
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: long before he ever went even committed to Alabama. I'm
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sold on him. He had a
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: couple of good games and then against you know, other
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: teams like Miami, he was a no show. And so
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: let's press pause on Hollywood smothers. I don't think Texas
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: actually upgraded like they feel that they did. Let's press
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: pause on that, because I think he's going to do
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: well against some weaker competition. But we'll see in week
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: two when he goes against Ohio State. What will those
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: numbers look like then, Because if he's the same as
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: Trey Wisner, you just paid a lot more for the
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: same dude.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why to even let
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: Trey Wisner go. But you know, I'll gladly clown Texas
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: for what they've done in some other time. Uh, blue
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: Collar has a good question. Do we see some improvement
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: from tight end room and year one of Witten? I mean,
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: you got Rocky Bears, Hayden Hanson, you got Jake Van Dorsselaire.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: And then.
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that room's gonna be a lot
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: better in comparison. He still got John Locke out there.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: He's still got Kate McIntyre. You got Trenee Washington, who
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: I think that's what I want to see what he
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: does with Trenee Washington. Yes, Troop be told. That's gonna
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: tell me a lot about Witten. Trenee has all of
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: the physical tools play. I want to see what he
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: does with him. Heck, CJ. Nixon can't play tight end
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: or edge. They may try to yank Kimbuck over there
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: former Hooper. I'm curious to see what that looks like
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: as well. So I'm truly intrigued with what he does
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: with the young players more so than the transfers that
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: came in. So year one you're gonna see improvement because
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Hayten Hansen as well as Rocky Bears are definitely an
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: improvement as tight ends. So we'll see where that goes.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: And I mean, you've got forgive me, we got Rutster
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: and mix. I think both of those guys are going
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: to be good. One of them is. One of them
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: is just recovering from a late injury. Uh, So I
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: think that there's going to be you know, some unavailability there.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: But I mean, I will say this is Jason Witten's
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: already having conversations with people that we weren't having conversations
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: with the past several years with Joe John Finley. So
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: I think from just the recruiting his name, there's a
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: lot of parents who are going to know who the
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: hell Jason Witten is and they're going to be pretty
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: excited for that. Yep, it's a low bar. It's a
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: low bar for the improvement. I mean a very very
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: low bar because the last I mean, you would say,
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: maybe the last year that we had a tied end
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: that did really really well was probably cal Kata, Yeah, Stogner.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: Stogner prior to was it was it was either well
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: he was more of an h back Willis was true.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: But I mean, like but with Calcultarra. Stogner was. You know,
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: we went from Andrews to Calcultara. Calcultarra started the concussion
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: stuff and that kind of what reiled him, and then
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: he retired and then you know, went to SMU and
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: it's nice still in the league. But I would also
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: say that like Stogner, prior to getting that hit, it
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: was against Kansas or Baylor, and he got the staff
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: infection and it was kind of it kind of stunted
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: his growth and we just didn't see anything. We saw
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: a lot of bad luck with injuries and immaturity. So
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: I think that the bar is really really low for
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: Jason Whitten and all you have to do is make
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: it that it's not an absolute you know, Uh, the
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: tight end room is just not a deficit to your
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: damn team like it has been for several years.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: Yeah, see the thing that that that also hurts him.
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: And this can had a really good year life year
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: he did. He was a top three tight end in
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: the SEC. Like, just keep that going. And then to me,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: my judgment on him will is one hundred percent on
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: how do we do with the is how does the
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: young players come along next year? Can we get them
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: in the game and get them producing. The blocking should
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: be better because you got two guys that know how
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: to block three guys actually, so we'll see where that goes.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: Like this, when Owen asked another good question, Owen asks
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: who replaces Owen? Owen asked, who replaces Owen in the
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: linebacker room? Easy? Solely Sully cos Sulivan's your starting linebacker.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: But I think Nessa is the one that comes up
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: as the next big one at linebacker. I want Marcus
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: James to hurry up. I'm just gonna be honest. And
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: that's nothing on him, Like, that's not even even in shade.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: I I was excited about Marcus James as a crew
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: six three two twenty. He comes in about a little
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: bit bigger, taller. I want to see Marcus James ball out.
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: He balls out, be afraid, be very afraid.
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's got one year under his
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: belt now, and like you said, it's it's that's a
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: hard room to I mean, if he has snaps, I
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: would say it'd be less than twenty.
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: But I think he read. I think he actually got
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: a chance to retch. He I don't even think they
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: put him on special really either. This year. Yeah, he
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: only played one game, Yes.
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: One game, so yes, and that was the Kent stated
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: Kent State.
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: He's listed cool. He's listed at six four two thirty
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: five mm hm wow.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: And he's going to a sophomore year, so he's he's
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: he is a stud. It's the mental port. It's the
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: mental part and it's always going to be when you
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: play this game is if you want to be on
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: the field as a linebacker. The reason why Owen Heineke
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: was there is because he knew where he was supposed
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: to be.
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: Where guys like Goby McKenzie and Samuel Masigo really struggled
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: was the fact that when you get out of position
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: and something pops that, I mean, Brent's not gonna like that.
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: That's the first place we all see. We all see
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: how it's not an issue with our defense. Why we're
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: you know, in a tight game. It's the issue with
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: the offense. Brent Vinnible is gonna coach like, we're gonna
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: win the game on on defense every single week. And
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: so you've got to you gotta be in the right spot,
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: so be trustworthy.
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: Yeah. At his size, dal he's I mean nessa six ish,
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: he's six four five. That two ginormous linebackers. That's gonna
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: be fun to see running around taking dudes heads off.
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: Stevie asked a very good question, Jay, how much does
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: inline blocking tight end help with the run game? It
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: changes at all. It creates new holes, it creates new opportunities,
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: It creates new things that go down. So yeah, that
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: to me is probably one reason why I expect to
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: run getting to be a lot better. Cannck had his moments.
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: He would get into a hole, he in the way
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: the way you needed a tight end that it's not
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: a great blocker yet to do. He'd get in the way,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: and then you'd see material run. You'd saw a Blaylock run,
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: you saw ext rob run, and they get yards and go.
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: That will change when you have dudes that are really
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: good at blocking to where those holes open up even
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: more a field, they open more, they're gonna be gone.
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: So yeah, that changes everything for us.
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: When you got a good inline blocking tight end, it's
- 1:24:57Speaker 2: not going to be the difference between it is when
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: you got an inline talk tight end, that's that's doing well.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: He takes out somebody where somebody else is going to
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: be vacating and so what that happens is it allows
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: your offensive lineman to get out to the second level,
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: and that leads to more explosive plays downfield. And as
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: much as we want to say about like maybe the
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: Joonte Barnes, we haven't had great tight end blocking, you know,
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: in his tenure here, and so what happens. He's always like,
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: you know, one on one with a linebacker after he's
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: made a cut. And that's how most of these backs
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: Tory Blaylock. I mean, how many times did he have
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: one more guy to get past and he was gone?
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: You know, x Rob We saw him sneak out on
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: a few. If you get good tight ends blocking on
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: the in line instead of a defensive end or a linebacker,
- 1:25:48Speaker 2: you know, tackling guy in the middle of the hole
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: from behind, he clears him out. Your offensive line can
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: make it to the next level. And it turns a
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: four yard carry into a twenty four yard carry exactly.
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: And that's what you're hoping for. You want to turn
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: those smaller carries into bigger ones just by having additional
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: blocking and a little bit a little bit more of
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: a crease. And I think CJ. Nixon could be a
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: special tighty end things is gonna be specially the edge too.
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: I really intrigued to see how he's developed. I actually
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: think he may end up being one that moves up there,
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: because remember, you know what's funny when I went through
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: and looked at this, and I'm actually getting I put
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: this way, I was a little nervous about twenty seven
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball coop because I
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: was like, man, you're gonna lose all these these good players,
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: all these dudes that so much, so much veteran talent
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: on the defensive side that we got up there. You're
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: gonna lose a lot of it potentially at the end
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: of this year. I wonder what it's gonna look like
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: after that. But then when I started looking, I'm like,
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Dang Stone and Jane Jackson only sophomore and they should
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: be their junior year. If they come back, you got
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: them as seniors. Reggie Powers to be a junior. He'll
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: be back as a senior. Eli Bowen, same thing. Only
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: one you're really losing on your defensive line in your
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: defense next season, Peyton Bowen. He's the only one guaranteed
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: to be gone. And Kip Lewis Bowen kip lois only
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: to a guaranteed to be gone. That's huge. That moves
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: Nigel Smith in as your red shirt junior. Why Gilmore
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: red shirt junior, Koya red shirt junior. PJ actually would
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: be gone too because he's a junior. He'll be going
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: in as a senior this year, so you lose him,
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: but you got Danny coming back potentially. You have CJ.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: Nixon coming in as a red shirt sophomore in twenty seven. Like,
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: You've got a lot of people backloaded that. I'm just like, oh,
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: this is a lot better than I thought it was
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: gonna be. Nesta, Marcus James both coming in. Nesta is
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: going to be a red shirt sophomore next season, Marcus
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: Jans to be a red shirt freshman next season. We're
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: actually loaded up better now. I just need to see
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: them produce, but I think they can. That to me,
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: they got me a lot more excited than I thought.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, now I just got to see him
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: on the field. We've seen all these other players. You've
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: seen Bowanowski, You've seen you know, a lot of the
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: players that are playing. Now you just got to see
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: the young players going there and actually play and take
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: the spot. It's gonna be a lot better than we think.
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: That actually encourages me as I look through this roster.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: Well, you've got you got a lot of tools that
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: you can work with and if you get to good
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: blocking and Jimmy ja John Finley actually was six six
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: sixty seven to when he played, so he's he's a giant.
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: But I mean, you just got a lot of you
- 1:28:36Speaker 2: got a lot of tools. And this is a year
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: to where I mean, let's not get it twisted. If
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: you are a Sooner fan, the goal for this team
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: every year is going to be go win conference championships,
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: go try to win a national championship. Like this year
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: it really does need. I mean, it is going to
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: be a national championship push. That's that's everybody. That's what
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: everybody is lined up for.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a push for that. And to answer
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: that question, there, is he the tallest? Yeah, yeah he
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: would because he's six's eight, so he's legitimately the talst. Yeah,
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Boomer, I think that they
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: probably trust the wide receiver room more now and they're
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: probably ready to rotate a ton more. That's the good thing.
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: Like I said, the young players are probably gonna get
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: a lot more rep than y'all anticipate, like a lot
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: more REP, so I gotta do his push. I do
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: think MARKL four can be a cheetah. He's got the
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: hype for it and the size for it. He hits
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: like a young Reggie. I think I think a Marion
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: Robinson man Man is gonna end up being another cheatah
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: roll type guy too, Like he's gonna be another RP three.
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: To me, there's there's a reason why they let Hardy go,
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: and it's because of how they feel about a Marion Robbinson.
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: Yeah, they really like Mario Robinson, like they wanted to
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: keep Hardy. They gave him an open invitation to come back.
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: But Hardy wants to start. And if Peyton Bowen had
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: been going, if Peyton had left, Hardy's your other starter
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: with Boganowski. But he didn't he come back for senior year.
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: That takes that away. So that being I'm okay, I'm okay.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: I'm okay with man Man Man playing more now and
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: losing Hardy. Even though I really liked having jayde Hardy
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: out there with the three.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: He's a great he's a great teammate, very very close
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: to both Boganowski and if you talk to Big Mike Boganowski,
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: if you talk to Reggie, Reggie his dad, I mean
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: he he was the hard and soul that that room.
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: And so you know, that's that's it's it's it's a
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: hard and it's a tough loss. But understood, understood, Yeah,
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: because he's going to he would rotate in again just
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: like he did this past year and we saw a
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: lot of good plays from him. They just think that
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: where Omarian could be this next year would be uh,
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: you know, pretty unusial to where Harty is. And if
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: you get the younger guy, that's that's that's a leg
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: up because I think Hardy's been hearing this. This would
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: been your four for him or is it your three
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: friend this year?
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: Harty? This this he's been here two years, he's been
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: here him, Reggie and and Bo have been only been
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: here two years together. Next season will be your three.
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: They're all be they're all they're all true juniors together
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: because none of them rich shirt. They all play them
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: a lot, especially in the special team side, which is
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: usually what burns a lot of their red shirts. But
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: question for this team is not gonna be defense, it's
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: one hundred percent what does the offense turn into going forward?
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: So and I'm actually encouraged at the way we made moves.
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