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Severance Season 2 Decoded · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Raised by Giants special episode follow up
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  Speaker 1: to the last Schizospiracy the Mega Burrito Hour. But this
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  Speaker 1: isn't a Maga Burrito ho, this isn't a Maga Burrito episode.
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  Speaker 1: Those are on the third Monday of every month. This
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  Speaker 1: is a special episode where we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about Severance Season two. The final episode of season two
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  Speaker 1: just dropped last week, and here to talk about it
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  Speaker 1: with us, the host of the one on one podcast
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  Speaker 1: to Get Weird one A Alla, how's it going?
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  Speaker 2: My friend was, how do I sound? I sound like
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  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to sound, and like not like last time?
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  Speaker 1: You sound good? Okay, coming through loud and clear with
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  Speaker 1: the micael cool.
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  Speaker 2: We're here and we're queer right, Oh okay whatever, We're
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  Speaker 2: here to talk about Severance.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. It got pretty crazy, man, I'm ready and there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. There's a lot of Easter eggs too,
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  Speaker 3: bro that people.
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  Speaker 2: I was like watching theory videos on it and all
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  Speaker 2: the craziness that people are coming up with, like the
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  Speaker 2: conspiracies within the show, and it gets wild, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Like first season, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Be honest, they ain't have me Like the first half
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  Speaker 2: but it's one of these shows that you watch it
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  Speaker 2: and it all starts to make sense towards the end.
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  Speaker 2: You go, oh, that's why that happened, or that's why
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  Speaker 2: that's happening. You start to connect the dots after the fact,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't really appreciate it because it is a
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  Speaker 2: slow burn, dude. It's like a really really slow burn.
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  Speaker 2: You're just grinding through the entire thing. And then season
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  Speaker 2: two was like boom bro it went crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It went crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It did get really crazy, and one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: episodes of the whole thing was the Corbel episode. I
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  Speaker 1: think that the Corbell I really like that one. It
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  Speaker 1: was kind of off, it was kind of different. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like the Breaking Bad episode with the fly.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch Breaking Bad? The Fly episode where it's
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  Speaker 1: like super freaking random and doesn't make any sense and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like an episode where they're trying to kill
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  Speaker 1: a freaking fly the entire episode. But that's what this
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  Speaker 1: episode felt like. But I thought that it was. It
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  Speaker 1: brought the character of Corbell and wrapped it all together
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  Speaker 1: really nicely, and we figure out the Corbell all in.
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  Speaker 1: Spoiler warnings for anybody that hasn't seen season two or
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  Speaker 1: it hasn't even seen the first season. We covered the
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  Speaker 1: first season and the schizospiracy episode number two. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be covering the second season here because is
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  Speaker 1: all caught up. And I just thought that it was
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  Speaker 1: a really good fleshing out of the character because we
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  Speaker 1: didn't really get any information of exactly what was going
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  Speaker 1: on with her. And it turns out that she essentially
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  Speaker 1: created all of the technology of the Severance, like technology
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  Speaker 1: that they use, and they stole it from her. Well
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  Speaker 1: they sort of QUASEI stole it. They kind of told
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  Speaker 1: her to like, shut shut up, and you know, you
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  Speaker 1: got to serve Kiera during this whole thing and take
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  Speaker 1: a back seat to this, but we'll give you a
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  Speaker 1: management position, you know, and then they kind of like
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  Speaker 1: screw her over and then she's like, oh, well, you
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  Speaker 1: guys just screwed the wrong person on this thing, which
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  Speaker 1: I think that they were going to kill her. Remember
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  Speaker 1: whenever she went to meet with Elly at the Luman
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, come on up to the thing,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure that that's where they were going
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  Speaker 1: to kill her. But she knew that they were going
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  Speaker 1: to kill her, so she turned around and got in
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  Speaker 1: her car and left. And that's whenever she went to
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  Speaker 1: this orphanage type place, which I'm not it seems like
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  Speaker 1: an orphanage. Did not look like an orphanage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly, but she was she was.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't severed the entire time she was there, right, right?
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  Speaker 3: Or was she?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she was now right.
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  Speaker 2: Because like it started, like these things start to make
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  Speaker 2: sense after the fact where you go because and they did.
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  Speaker 3: They did a really good job.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is, you have to pay attention when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to shows like this because if you're not
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  Speaker 2: paying attention, it can get a little crazy, right, especially
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  Speaker 2: in the in the last episode when they're going up
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  Speaker 2: through floors and they're switching between the innye and the audi,
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  Speaker 2: and then the the episode where he's having a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with his any with the camera. But then it's a
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  Speaker 2: special lodge, the birthing lodge, that they have to be
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  Speaker 2: in in order to do that, which is bro that
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  Speaker 2: that's Masonic, like that concept of a Pythagorean palace, which
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  Speaker 2: I've talked about. It's a Now again, this is technology, right,
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  Speaker 2: but any technology indistinguishable from magic, right, any sophisticated technology
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  Speaker 2: is indistinguishable from magic, right, That's the whole thing. And
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  Speaker 2: a Pathagoora and Palace says that if you build a
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  Speaker 2: structure to certain geometric restrictions, it can elevate the consciousness
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  Speaker 2: of a person within it, or a group of people.
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  Speaker 3: This is why masonicologies are built. The way that they're built.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that you can elevate someone's consciousness, you
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  Speaker 2: can also suppress someone's consciousness. So think about it and
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  Speaker 2: the severed way where once they go in, they're tapping
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  Speaker 2: into a different part of themselves, a different personality. And
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  Speaker 2: then it all starts to come full circle when they
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  Speaker 2: reveal what the numbers were, what all the names of
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  Speaker 2: the files were, and I was just like, this is
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  Speaker 2: too much. And then it starts to get into the
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  Speaker 2: ethics of it all, which the whole show was sort
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  Speaker 2: of about the ethics of this is it? And the
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  Speaker 2: question that we asked on the last episode, can would
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  Speaker 2: you sever yourself? Would you go that far to get
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  Speaker 2: a paycheck or whatever it is? We don't know why exactly, well,
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  Speaker 2: we do know why in the in the story in
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  Speaker 2: the show why he did that. He kind of wanted
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  Speaker 2: to separate himself from the death of his wife. Right,
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  Speaker 2: he was depressed. He tried to be the professor or
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  Speaker 2: the teacher that he was, but he just kept seeing
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  Speaker 2: her everywhere. Like that's what they said, that he kept
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  Speaker 2: seeing her everywhere and he couldn't get over it. So
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  Speaker 2: he did it in a way to kind of shut
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  Speaker 2: off for however many hours, was it like nine to five?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they work like nine to six, like really late hours,
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  Speaker 2: and he was disconnected. You go out, you go home.
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  Speaker 2: He was drinking a lot when he was home. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So again, depressed guy who just wanted to just get by,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. And so the ethics of it really got
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  Speaker 2: to me where I'm like, I forgot which which scene
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  Speaker 2: it was where all the two gay dudes, the guy
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  Speaker 2: that what's that actor's name he's really famous from from Click.
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Walking, Christopher Walking, Oh my god, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Brain Christopher Walking and his husband right when they're talking
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  Speaker 2: about which by the way, was weird because he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when we went to church, and the guy's like,
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  Speaker 2: you guys went to church, you know.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we went to church so that his
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  Speaker 3: any would be saved.
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  Speaker 2: Because then it starts to get into the whole concept
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  Speaker 2: of do anyes have souls? And if they do have souls,
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  Speaker 2: can they be saved? And bro this is directly out
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  Speaker 2: of like fifteenth century homunculous talk where it's like do
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  Speaker 2: homunculus have souls? Can they be saved? Did God die
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  Speaker 2: for that creation?
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  Speaker 3: Sin?
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  Speaker 2: And essentially when you create in any you're creating another
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  Speaker 2: life form, but it's yours, right, So it's so weird
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  Speaker 2: where you see you know, you got the perspective of
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  Speaker 2: the ny where he's arguing his case, like, hey, help
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  Speaker 2: me save my wife, and then he's like, I think
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  Speaker 2: that once you save your wife, you're going to forget
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  Speaker 2: all about me, right, And then obviously we have how
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  Speaker 2: the series ended, which I wasn't expecting it to end
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go through with it.
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  Speaker 2: But again, then what where do they think they're going?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know that's a really confusing part. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting too with Christopher walking
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  Speaker 1: and Irving whenever they were talking about that, because that
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  Speaker 1: brings a different, completely different aspect to it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a spiritual type of consciousness aspect in there. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of mirroring stuff that was going on as well,
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  Speaker 1: Like with Kobel, whenever she is in the weird area
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  Speaker 1: at the home or whatever, whenever she goes upstairs and
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  Speaker 1: she grabs that mask that her mom was supposedly on,
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  Speaker 1: like a ventilation mask, like well, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a respirator or whatever it is that helped people breathe
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  Speaker 1: whenever their you know, their lungs or they have a
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  Speaker 1: really bad upper respiratory infection ventilator and she was breathing
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  Speaker 1: through it. But if you remember at the end of
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  Speaker 1: season one, whenever she gets fired from Lumen and she
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  Speaker 1: goes into the she's on the Masonic floor and she
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  Speaker 1: destroys all the stuff that's in our house, she's gripping
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  Speaker 1: a hold of that exact same ventilator mask.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, really, i't Yeah, whenever she's.
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  Speaker 1: Laying on the Masonic check her board floor at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the first season, she's gripping onto the the
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  Speaker 1: same type of ventilation mask that she has in her house.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's the exact same thing whenever she's in
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  Speaker 1: season two and at the home, whenever her mom, that
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  Speaker 1: lady that works there or lives there or whatever supposedly
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  Speaker 1: killed her mom or whatever, and she's upstairs in her
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  Speaker 1: bed working on the ventilator.
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  Speaker 2: So the theory with the whole thing is that the
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  Speaker 2: main Eagan guy, which is, let me find his name here,
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  Speaker 2: the main guy, James Egan. They're kind of hinting at that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess he was married to her mom, and then
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  Speaker 2: that she might be I could be getting I could
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  Speaker 2: be mixing all this up. But anyways, point being that
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  Speaker 2: Corbell might be Mark's mom and this is the reason
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  Speaker 2: why she was kind of involved with the labor process
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  Speaker 2: of like one, you know, what was she doing there?
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  Speaker 2: She was pretending to be the selactation nurse, was kind
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  Speaker 2: of caring for the child, and the theory goes that
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  Speaker 2: she might be Mark's mom. In this series of they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to and this is where it gets weird, bro,
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  Speaker 2: because they were trying to birth like the perfect almost
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  Speaker 2: almost like a moon child, but with the Kier spirit.
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  Speaker 2: And this comes into play when James Egan walks in
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  Speaker 2: on Helly the any of his daughter and he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know he was when she goes to kind of
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  Speaker 2: stab him, she goes he goes, oh, there it is,
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  Speaker 2: you know the spirit of Kiera or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The fire. He says something along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: And what they're hinting at is that Helly's any has
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  Speaker 2: this kier spirit, but her Audi doesn't. So James Egan
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  Speaker 2: prefers that any of his daughter and loves that any
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  Speaker 2: of his.
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  Speaker 3: Daughter, but not her Audi. Bro.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all tied in with the mom of Corbel
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  Speaker 2: and everything, and I want to say that the way
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  Speaker 2: they broke it down, and I forgot how it went,
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  Speaker 2: that Corbell's mom might have been one of these, because
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  Speaker 2: James Egan hints at kind of sort of spreading his
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  Speaker 2: seat around and having many Deeter Egan right, The is
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  Speaker 2: an anagram for AI generated. So they have this other
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  Speaker 2: weird aspect of like the story of Kiera and his
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  Speaker 2: brother and then his brother dying in the what.
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  Speaker 3: Do they call that other realm that was frozen? Was
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  Speaker 3: it the planes?
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  Speaker 2: It's not, it's it's a place that they're they're speculating
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  Speaker 2: that that's a place that exists in the in the
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  Speaker 2: Innis world, in the Innies reality.
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  Speaker 3: So the entire.
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  Speaker 2: Building of Bro, the entire building of Lumen is kind
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  Speaker 2: of like a portal, and these Innis are able to
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  Speaker 2: access other places, and this is where the Hall comes
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  Speaker 2: into place, and these liminal spaces that we talked about
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  Speaker 2: before comes into place. So I'm gonna find the outdoor
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  Speaker 2: retreat place of where where it is?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that that was like a real place.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that was inside.
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  Speaker 2: Of Peter Egan National Force, the men Minawaska State Park
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  Speaker 2: Reserve and this is in ker Honk Stint ker Honk Sin.
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  Speaker 3: New York.
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  Speaker 2: H So yeah, the Ortbow the outdoor retreating team building
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  Speaker 2: occurrence by Milchick. And by the way, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think I think Milchick's my favorite character Shadow. When he
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  Speaker 2: gives them the paper, he just like runs out, Dude,
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny. And then when he's doing the dancing
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  Speaker 2: with the with the band, he's like breaking it down
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  Speaker 2: doing the choreography and everything with the with the wand
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  Speaker 2: or whatever he was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I joked whenever I was watching it, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: is this what Milchik has been doing this entire time?
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  Speaker 1: Is preparing all this freaking choreography. That's why he's not
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  Speaker 1: getting anything done and he's behind because he's doing all
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  Speaker 1: this dance choreography and preparing for the final Cold Harbor completion,
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  Speaker 1: which that part is kind of confusing to me as well.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of open ended things. We still needs hollow.
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  Speaker 1: What was hell That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the here and here's the thing, so Deeter
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  Speaker 2: Egan National Forest and the waterfall being Woe's hollow. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna look up to see if Deeder Egan National Force
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  Speaker 2: exists in the Severance universe, because if it doesn't, then
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  Speaker 2: it's this liminal space outside of reality that.
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  Speaker 3: Only existed for them in that time being. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of seemed like a simulation because it
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  Speaker 1: started out with I think Irving like out on the ice,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, are they in a simulation? But
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  Speaker 1: then they made it seem like it was actually real
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  Speaker 1: the further the episode went into it and the further
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  Speaker 1: things went in because they were talking about like dying
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  Speaker 1: out there, if they could die out there, and then
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  Speaker 1: Irving is essentially like lost and like after Helly and
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  Speaker 1: then he attempts to kill Helly. So it's it seems
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  Speaker 1: like it was really happening. So I don't really know
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  Speaker 1: how that works and how they even got them there.
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  Speaker 2: This part is reminding me of like, uh, that show
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  Speaker 2: that movie that we watched, What the hell is it
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  Speaker 2: called Cattle Lake? Where it's like super confusing here, pull
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  Speaker 2: up my screen here real quick. So I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out if Deeter Egan National Force is an actual place.
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  Speaker 2: So ker Pe is that where we're at?
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  Speaker 3: Fictional town?
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  Speaker 2: So it is an actual place in the town a
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  Speaker 2: corporate town built by illumin Industries for its employees and name.
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  Speaker 2: The town is named after Kir Egan and several locations
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  Speaker 2: also named for other members of the Egan family. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess it is a real place, but it did
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  Speaker 2: seem it did seem like simulation esque for a little
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  Speaker 2: while there. Yeah, And here's a forested wilderness area and
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  Speaker 2: kere Pe named after Kier Egan's twin brother Deeter Egan,
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  Speaker 2: which again is an anagram for AI generated in the
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  Speaker 2: area contains several landmarks, including Scissor Cave, where Kier Egan
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  Speaker 2: was said by Seth Miltrick to have tamed the four tempers,
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  Speaker 2: and Woe's Hollow, where Kir claims to have met the
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  Speaker 2: temper Woe for the first time. It also contains a
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  Speaker 2: lake overlooked by a rocky promontory which resembles a scene
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  Speaker 2: depicted in the Kere cycle painting. Kier invites you to
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  Speaker 2: drink his wa, drink his water, I mean drink of
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  Speaker 2: his water, which in al chemical terms that's semen bro
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  Speaker 2: that's that's uh, the water is semen. So here we
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  Speaker 2: have Kier invite you to drink his water. People are
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  Speaker 2: saying this resembles the the the Michigan Lakes right the
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  Speaker 2: Grand Lakes. And also this painting reminds me of this
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  Speaker 2: other painting could have swore was related to oo, this
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  Speaker 2: one right here starting today, let's see it reminds me
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  Speaker 2: of have you seen this painting before?
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  Speaker 1: No, but it looks very similar.
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  Speaker 3: It does.
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  Speaker 2: Here you go Casper David Frederick The Soul of Nature.
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  Speaker 2: You imagine European landscampaigning by portraying nature as a setting
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  Speaker 2: for a profound, spiritual and emotional encounters, working in the
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  Speaker 2: Van Oud of German Romantic movement, which campaign So the
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  Speaker 2: Soul of Nature. Let's look up to see if there's
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  Speaker 2: any esoteric, esoteric meaning for this particular and for those listening,
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  Speaker 2: it's a painting of a man overlooking a cliff essentially,
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  Speaker 2: and he's looking into the wilderness. And essentially and this
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  Speaker 2: is Ai by the way, so just take it for
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  Speaker 2: whatever it's worth. An esoteric context, the soul of nature
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  Speaker 2: often refers to the belief that nature possesses a fundamental,
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  Speaker 2: interconnected and spiritual essence mirroring our own souls, and that
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  Speaker 2: connecting with nature can lead to deeper self awareness and
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  Speaker 2: spiritual growth. Which that's not wrong. I mean, when you
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  Speaker 2: go out into nature, you're supposed to connect with I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say reality, but it kind of in
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  Speaker 2: a way, you're connecting to reality a little bit more. Right,
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  Speaker 2: you meditate, you do if you do yoga, then you
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  Speaker 2: you know, you stretch out there, look at this. Nature
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  Speaker 2: is the portal to the soul, a gateway to the self.
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  Speaker 2: So again this show is getting very kind of Youngion
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  Speaker 2: in a way.
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  Speaker 3: It was about.
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  Speaker 2: Looking within and the end is the any. Right, the
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  Speaker 2: ani is your I don't want to say dark self,
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  Speaker 2: but kind of r it's your ego. And when your
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  Speaker 2: ego sometimes as a want to let go, which was
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  Speaker 2: the whole problem that Mark was having when he's trying
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  Speaker 2: to convince his any to help him save his wife,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like no, no, no, no, no, I'm in love
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  Speaker 2: with Helly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's who I'm in love with him.
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  Speaker 2: And if I save your wife, that means I won't
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: be with the person that I want to be with.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: So again, now the whole.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: After the season ends, now people are getting into the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: theory of perhaps James Egan is gonna have a way
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for Helly's any to be permanent, because that's the one
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that has.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: That Kier fire, that Kier spirit.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Which I don't know if they're trying to manifest something
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: bro like in reality. Because the weird animatronic scene where
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Milchik is talking and kind of arguing with the animatronic
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: where it's kind of going off script, people are speculating
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that that might still have Kierre's consciousness to a certain level.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: If it was and by the way, that was Ben
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Steller's voice the Kier animatronic, that that was and that's.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: What it was. We were looking that up on the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: last show. Mm hm. We saw who was Keanu Reeves.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Was the building in the video that they showed him
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: where it's like here at lowin we care about what
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: youth and like they were showing them the tribute to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: their department.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was so weird. Dude, like, why would
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you why would you go ahead first and deep into
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the uprising at Lumen? Dude, Like that was so strange.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: That must only be for the people inside of Lumen,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: because there's no way that they made that for people.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: There's normal, everyday people. For a commercial that you would show.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: To the like the audis, yeah, this is the this
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: is the video where they're thinking that they're like thanking
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: them for for doing the uprising and kind of doing
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: this video of like making them feel that they made
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a difference. That was Keanu Reeves's voice.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was wondering where they were, but I binge
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: them kind of back to back to back to back.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Me too and that, And this is gonna be one
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of those shows where you're gonna have to go back
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and rewatch. So what I'll probably do is have to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: rewatch season two when season three comes out to get
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a fresher, like a refresher on the whole lore because honestly,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it kind of goes deep. And I was asking you,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, is there any books on this, like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: cause it's kind of interesting once you start getting into it,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you want to learn more about the the lure because
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what interests me the most about this particular.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Show was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: That, mind you, I talk about the esoteric and the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: occult and things of this nature, and the reason that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this name, you know, nature is the portal to the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: self and all this sort of stuff interests me because
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: also I've seen this painting in reference to Nietzsche, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, I don't remember exactly where I saw
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: it in relation to Nietzsche. It might have been like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you know, when you're staring out into the abyss, the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: abyss starts to stare back into you sort of thing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So I've seen this particular painting in reference to him.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And what interests me the most about this show is
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: as I'm watching, I'm looking for this occult connotation to everything.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for this occult aspect, and this show kind
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of wanted to go there. It wanted to get a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: cult and it kind of did you know at the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: end of season one with the whole choreograph masonic flooring,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: weird ritual that they were doing where Dylan sits on
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the bed and puts on the head of Kier and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: watches the tempers exactly is essentially what he was watching, right,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the tempers. That was kind of a cult, and then
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in season two it kind of gets a cult when
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it comes to the goats. Now, mind you, a baby
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: goat is called a kid, and the kid symbolism is
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: throughout the whole Egan thing. It was like their mascot
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: for the school. And also you see the you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the the.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Kid.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I have to pull it up here, so Egan kid
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: school book. It was like a school book that you saw.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So the baby goat stuff is right here, So go
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: go fighting kids.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And this is like a baby goat, right, go fighting kids.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And this is I believe look at this, look at
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: this theory, bro, bro it gets crazy. But point being
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that the goats right and you know which scene I'm
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: talking about where they present the goat as a sacrifice,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: which was so weird.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't really understand. I mean, he was like explaining it, Drummond,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Mister Drummond was explaining like why they had to do it,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: but it was kind of like out of love Field,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and it makes you believe that it's sort of like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a like what they're trying to do with the humans
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: as well. They're essentially trying to form humans, but they're
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: also trying to form goats to find like the perfect
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: goat to them.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing goats in certain Druidic and other cultures,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the goat is the cycle pomp. The goat is the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: spirit that guides the person in the afterlife. Okay, And
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up the symbols on the table.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Mark safe from becoming a sacrifice for Kir.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the table in which they put
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the little baby goat in because it has some symbols
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on it and it shows like the steps into what
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. But again, right, you have the
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: black goat, this guy here, you have this whole department
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: where they're like raising these goats. But they kind of
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: seem like like heathens, you know, like they seem like
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: kind of uh, it's the girl from Game of Thrones,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: by the way, that big tall one. They kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: seem like like heathens. And I'm just thinking about the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: we will fight that heathens. We will fight that Hethn's
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a system of a down, you know, the whole thing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: So the here she is right here, Severn's finally reveals
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the dark purpose for Luman's goat. So anyways, they're they're
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: asking for sacrifices. Now what I thought was gonna happen
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know what that that gun did. What
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I thought was gonna happen. This is what I was
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: thinking as I'm watching the show. I'm thinking that they're
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: gonna take Gemma's soul or consciousness and transfer it into
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this goat this kid. That's what I thought was gonna happen,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: because he didn't know what the gun was gonna do
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: until he's got it up to Drummond's neck and they.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite part, dude. That was my favorite
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: part of the entire season two when they're going down
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the elevator and Mark turns into his audi and he
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: stabs Drumming in the neck with the gun. Dude, so ah, man,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that was classic.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: The name Drummond has a certain connotation. It's got a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: meaning behind it, and I'm trying to find it because
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it meant something along so Druman meaning ridge or hill
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: into kntting, connection to the land, to pography of Scotland.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And they again they broke it down really interesting in
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the in the video that I was watching that didn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: take any notes from.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: But that part got kind of a cult in a
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: little way.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find a picture of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the right because we've been wondering what the hell the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: goats were since the very beginning, like, yo, is this
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a connection to like mind control what exactly is going on?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But what was so weird that they didn't follow up
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: on is in the first couple of episodes, whenever Mark
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is going around looming with Helly and then they stumble
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: back into the goat lodge, Uh, they asked to see
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: their belly buttons, to lift up their shirts to show
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: their belly buttons. Yeah, And I'm like, okay, well, this
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: means that there's like they're cloning people here. Oh yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: because if you didn't have a belly button, then that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: would mean that you were essentially birthed outside of the womb,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that you were like your clone, because the ambilic accord
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to the belly button means that you were born of
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a natural birth. So I was like, okay, well, this
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: definitely has something to do with cloning as well, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: then they didn't really follow up on that. I'm guessing
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that in season three they're going to do some kind
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of uh follow up with the cloning stuff, because why
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: would they put that in there? Oh, let me see
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: your lift up your shirt and let me see you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: see your belly button. And Helly lifts up her shirt
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and Mark lifts up their shirt and they both have
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a belly button. And then the one guy was like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: well that doesn't mean anything.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it didn't make sense to him.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But maybe this is what they're hinting at here where
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: they're actually growing sheep.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is you know, this is a sheep, not.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: A goat, but where they're growing sheep in artificial matrixes,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: this is this is real, like this is.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: The first cloned animal was a sheep, Dolly the sheep.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so maybe they're hinting at that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe they put in a goat because the goat symbolizes
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: like the.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You know, the cycle pomp, so we find it here.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You also have the Greek god Pan, Roman god Mercury,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: which are kind of goat. Baphomet is a freaking goat.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: The dude wearing the horns. So again, were they kind
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of getting satanic? People were saying that her her outfit
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: right in all black was kind of satanic. And then
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: maybe this is mirroring like the again Druidic kind of
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: sort of origins and is that the new interpretation of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: like corporate America, corporate greed, we're all sheep, you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: being sacrificed to molocc essentially. I mean I don't because
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: there's you got to remember that this show also has
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of that underlying theme of the overreaching of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: corporations and things of this nature. So it might not
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: be one hundred percent a cult and like oh look
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they're sacrificing goats whatever it might have like hey, you're
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the goat, Like you're getting sacrificed, like you're the sheep
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: being led to the slaughter, right, Because that's also another
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: interpretation of the whole show, which was let me look
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: up the so now we can read the whole wiki
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: page without without spoilers.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Without spoilers. So let me pull it up here.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So reception, a viewership, critical response, Let's see what we
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: keep ideas saying about the symbolism behind it because marketing release,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Oh hold on, what's going on here? Writing, casting, set design, filming. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was so interesting. Ben Stiller is like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: One of the main.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: The main people behind this show, which you wouldn't think
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that about him, right.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a comedian, he I mean, they
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: might have this type of sense of humor in him,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like we talked about it with Zulander one and Zulander two,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: which is essentially like mk ultra stuff. So he's kind
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of had this. I feel like he's had this in
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: his chamber for a while and he's trying to spit
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: all this because the only this kind of blew up
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: through like audience, like grassroots type of thing, Like I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: don't think that they were expecting it to go over
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: this well. It seemed like it was a really niche thing,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: sort of like I know I've referenced From like so
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: many times on MGM plus, but that's what happened with
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: From as well. Like some people watched the first season,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: there wasn't any promotion for it, no one really cared
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: about it, and then it got this like big audience
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: reaction like what the fuck is going on in the show,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and it kind of blew up from there. And that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what I feel like that happened with this show, because
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: like you were mentioning the first five episodes, like you're
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: just like we just keeping Yeah, we just keep doing
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and over again, Like
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: what is going on? With this thing.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So here we have some free Masonic symbolism, the beehive.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: The beehive is right, and free Masonic symbology is the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: whole thing. They say that it represents camaraderie, structure, working with.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Your people, like you know, a team sort of thing.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Right, the beehive and this particular guy here at Russell
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Net he's talking about I think the writers and visual
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: artists behind Severn's had quite a bit of fun playing
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: with Masonic imagery. I don't mean that in a satanic
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: panic sense. I mean that they're doing it intentionally as
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a hint to the audience about what they're trying to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: say with the show. For the purpose of this article,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm lumping Freemasonry, the Illuminati, and Luciferianism into one big pile. Normally,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you can go way off track by looking too deeply
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: into minute details of TV shows. Severance is not like that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Severance seems to invite the viewer to freeze frame everything,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to examine it closely. That was one thing I didn't
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: enjoy about the show, because a lot of the things
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: that I didn't catch.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Was the Helly's.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I guess Employee I D was the same as Cold Harbor.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So they're trying to say that she is kind of Gemma.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: She kind of says that too. She's like, I'm her.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: What the hell did she mean by I'm her? I
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: took that as that she was Gemma or maybe Helly's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: any is one of the consciousnesses of the files that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: they created, and they put it into Helly and that's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: why he falls in love with her.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: That's right, That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: because that didn't make any sense, because they want you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to relate that part where she says I'm her as
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm the any version of her AUDI version. But I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's exactly what's going on. I think
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that because the whole thing doesn't really make too much
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: sense as to because it seems like Mark is the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: only They basically explain that Mark is the only one
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: that can do this to her. He's the only one
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that can get rid of all of her, like the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: things to create a super consciousness for her to like
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: go into. Right. Yeah, but Pete pe D in the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: beginning of the series was the head of the Severed Floor. Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: before Mark wasn't always the head of the Severed Floor.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: So what was he working on when he was the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: head of the Severn floor down there? Was he? Because
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. How could Mark have been
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the only one that can do this for however many
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: years that they've been there when he hasn't been the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: head person that's employed down there when it was PD
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: up into the point that we started in, and he
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: had already been there for like how many years, like
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: two years up into that point.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and somebody did the math, by the way, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: this show would take place in twenty thirty five, And yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that part didn't make sense to me because the magnum
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: opus was Cold Harbor, which they hinted at Cold Harbor
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: in the episode where they're looking back at Gema and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Mark's relationship and the baby crib on the box. If
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you read the box, it had the letters that would
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: spell out Cold Harbor. So again, if you're not watching
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the show, how this guy's saying freezing it frame by frame,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna understand it. And that was That's one
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: of the mistakes I made when I was watching the show,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: because I was watching it while I was working, So
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I'm paying attention, but I'm not paying like attention, You
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying, Like.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And bro, who the fuck is the young Asian girl?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a young Gemma, maybe a cloned
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: version of Gemma, because they kind of sort of kept
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: her with the same not the same job. But it
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: was weird that there was a child there. That's why
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Dylan was like, hey, are you sure?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Like are you here?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Do you want to be here? You're not being kept
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: here by you know, against your will? She was an intern,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: but I think right in turn internal maybe it was
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: another consciousness of Gemma because she comes into play after
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: they're almost already done. So maybe they bred no pun
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: intended one of those consciousnesses and they put it into
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a little girl because we still don't know who the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: hell she is.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And then they got rid of her right whenever Cold
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Harbor was getting ready to be complete.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, because they were all gonna die once Cold Harbor.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: So again the magnum Opus was finish this thing, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: what they wanted to do was what they were trying
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to achieve. They were trying to see which how far
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: this shield could go, right, this shield that separates all
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the innies and all these different because when Jemma was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: being tested on in all these different rooms.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: They would always ask her like, hey, who are you
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: and she.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't remember what was happening in the previous rooms, And
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: mind you, every single room was a different file that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: they were working on. So what they wanted to achieve
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: at the very end with Cold Harbor was if they
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: could make somebody who is diassembling their dead child's crib,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: if they could make that person forget that trauma and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: it wasn't able to bleed through, they were successful. And
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: that's why James Egan went into that weird room that
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he went into, and they were watching it all in
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: because then they're magnum opus or their last experiment, whatever
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: this is, because mind you, it seems like there's a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: bigger plot and the board almost seems like they're interdimensional.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Like the Watchers or how this guy is talking about
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the Illuminati, because they're always present. You can only tap
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: into them through that one girl where she's like, is
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the board here?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, they are.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It's like you want to talk to them and then
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you have to kind of sort of do it through
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: like a medium.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: They're like a priest, a priestess.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: She's talking them through this person so they're doing all
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: this for the quote unquote board. We still don't know
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if the board is even actual people, or if the
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: board might be some sort of AI bro Like what
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: if the board is a sort of AI algorithm with
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the whole Deeter Egan, which is AI generated.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: We don't know where that plays a role.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And maybe there's a bigger scheme behind everything, and that's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that might be where they're taking the whole show. Because
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: we got a lot of answers, but we still don't.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: We still have a lot of questions, right, like the
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: hell was the little girl?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: What the hell is the point of it all? Like
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: what's the point of the whole thing?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Because once Cold Harbor was done, they were all gonna die.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: What does that even mean?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Whether it's just you know.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: This is what I thought was going to happen. As
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, Okay, Mark is
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: going to decide to go down there, He's going to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: rescue her. But whenever they completed Cold Harbor, because they
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: talked about it several times that whenever Cold Harbor was
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: going to be complete, she was going to die, like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Jimma was going to cease to exist. But that was
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a metaphor that wasn't real. It was that she wasn't
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: going to physically die.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: She was going to be reborn.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: As a supper consciousness, okay, and that was going to
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: be the final consciousness. So what I thought was going
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to happen was Mark was going to get down there
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: rescued Jemma. But Jemma was permanently going to be this robot.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: She was going to be perma burnt. She wasn't going
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to be able to have any of the emotions, she
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to She's going to essentially be a brand
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: new human adult and not know anything. And I thought
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: she was going to be like that forever. So whenever
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he took her back up the elevator, I thought that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: she was going to stay the way that she was
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: whenever she was in there disassembling the baby crip. So
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: she was going to be like But but that defeats
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the purpose of this big, huge, cold harbor thing, because
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was going to erase all of
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the other segments of the consciousness that had been created, okay,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And I thought that she was just going to be
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that individual from the very beginning, I mean, like from
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: there on out. So whenever she walks into disassemble the crib,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, Mark's going to walk in there, He's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: going to recognize her. She has absolutely no idea who
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: he is. He convinces her to come with him, should
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: they go up the elevator, and then whenever they go
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: back into their any I thought she was going to
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: stay the exact same and that he was going to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: have a really big problem. I thought she was just
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: going to be Perma burn.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I thought she was going to be Perma fried. And
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, that would have been really interesting
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: to do. Because they essentially want to from what I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: gathered and watching it through one time, is that they
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: want to create this like robot type of person. Right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: They want to clear out all of these They want
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to clear out fear, they want to clear out envy.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: They when I get rid of all the normal emotions
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of a human being, exactly all the woes, and they
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: want to create a person that has no emotions so
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: they can essentially do this task all the time twenty
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: four to seven, and then they're not considered a human
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: being anymore, so they can work here forever and never
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: have to leave. Okay, and that's what I was, That's
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: what I kind of gathered was the goal. And I
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: thought whenever Cold Harbor was going to be complete, that
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that was going to erase all the other separations of
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: consciousness whenever she goes into the the room and she
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: was going to be permanently like that individual. And that
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: made sense to me. I was like, Okay, well that
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: makes more sense than because it doesn't really make a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: lot of sense as to why that this version of
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: her was so important, Like why would that have to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: be the end? Why couldn't they separate and do another
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: consciousness after this consciousness?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think so there's a few things going on.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: And you have to also remember, right at the end
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: of the day, they can sever these people whenever they want.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: They already prove that that they can do this whenever
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: wherever they are. They don't have to be right, this
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: overtime contingency right that they're able to tap into where
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: they're able to shift these people's consciousness wherever they are,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: no matter the time, no matter the place, which kind
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of Hey, they don't have to be at Lumen for
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: them to be a severed person. They could be out
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: in the real world, which you know, that's the whole
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: thing that happened when he was out in the book
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: reading party. But also another part of me is telling
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: me that the innies might have a special ability, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: that's why it needs to be them in order to
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: birth these other innies into existence, because why not just Hey,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: if you already have the technology and you already know
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: how to do this, and you can already sever people,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: why not just do it on your own?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Why do you need people to do it for you?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And that's the part that's weird, because they have to
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: be these worker bees for the man, for the corporation,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: for Lumen that has to conduct this task. Now they say, oh,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: it's because he can feel the numbers and the numbers
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: are what the numbers are different aspects of in this
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: in this particular, since Jemma's mind, right, that that that
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: was the way that her mind works, and that they
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: were able to deconstruct and reconstruct other consciousnesses of Gemma. Right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: But is that true for everybody else? Because how you
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: were saying, Pete, what the hell was he doing? Was
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: he also building ulterior innis or other other any's for Gemma?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Like who was he working on?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What was he doing?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: There.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: That's that's like one of the seems like a continuity
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: are but maybe they'll I think the whole thing with
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Pete is like just done. They scrapped it, the whole
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: thing with Pete on they're going to go back to that.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: But that was my question because it kind of seemed
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: like it all centered around Mark and his relationship with
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: his wife, and he's the only one that can do
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the task. So it's like, what was Pete doing there?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Was he working on his wife like or his relative
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: of his But then that means, well, how are they
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: working on two people at the same time. It doesn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: but I was really close in my theory. But that
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I said last time before I had watched season two
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: was that I thought that they were keeping the severed
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: people severed, and I was kind of close. It was
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: just for one individual, but it wasn't for everyone. But hey,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I was just semi semi had it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm reading into Pete to see what his
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: whole backstory was, and I'm not seeing why he was
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: there like his we because we saw his wife and
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: his daughter, So he wasn't there because of like he
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: was missing somebody, Like how Mark was where he was
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: missing his wife because she had passed, and then well
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: we thought she had passed. So to tie this into
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: like the bigger picture of the grand conspiracy of people
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: like oh, did did old Jeffrey really die? Or where
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: we presented this concept that he died and maybe he's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: on some remote island somewhere, you know, his any self,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: or maybe they transferred the consciousness to you know you guys,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: b drive whatever and they answered it, you know, in
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: some other body like another vessel. Because that's what this
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: is kind of sort of getting into. If you're able
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to uh compartmentalize someone's mind, what are you then able.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: To do with that?
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: If you're able to break it down and store it
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: into a computer essentially or a hard drive or something.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: What do you?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: What do you?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: What can what else can you do with that? You
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying like, there's a bigger there's a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: bigger conspiracy at the end of all this, And I
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: want to look into this particular article here where seven
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: season two finales last shot is a warning about season three,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: ben Stiller said, So, they said that this shot here
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: where it ends, is a warning about season three. Now,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: ben Steller explains the significance of the freeze frame and
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the color red. At the end of the seven season
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: two finale, the episode concludes with a freeze frame of
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Mark and Helly running down a Lumen hallway highlighted in red.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: This occurs after Marks and he chooses to go with
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Helly instead of his Audi's wife, Gemma. Apple TV Plus
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: has already renewed seven season three, ensuring that the fall
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of this decision will be explored and that the stories
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: of Mark, Helly and Gemma will continue. So maybe in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the next season, people were contemplating that they were gonna
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: that Gema was gonna be picked up by Mark's sister
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: and her husband, and that they were then able that
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: they were going to then try and save Mark from
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: inside of Lumen. But then maybe perhaps Helly is going
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to have a permanent any because that's the one with
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the kier spirit, right, That's the one that has that
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: fire that her dad was talking about. In an interview
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: with Indy Wire, Stiller explained that the freeze frame is
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: meant to be reminiscent of nineteen seventies movies, which sometimes
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: use freeze frames to show that the movie is over,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: but that the story will continue. As for the color red,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Stiller discussed how the color has been used minimally in
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: this series so far, and that it was introduced to
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: visually mark a distinct turning point towards seven season threes,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: tone and story. And again, I didn't really realize the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: red all that much, to be honest, throughout the whole thing,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: he revealed. He also revealed how the scene was shot
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: to make it feel like it was a scene out
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: of an older movie, and he says, for me, that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: image was just in my head from the beginning when
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: we said, Okay, we're going to go for this. We're
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: gonna go this far, and this is where we're going
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: to take it. You don't see freeze frames at the
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: end of movies that often these days, but it's used
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: to be. It used to be done a lot more.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It's just kind of this moment in time where you're like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: oh wow, this is the end of the movie, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: it's going to keep going. We just don't know where
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: it's going to go. You marinate in this moment and
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: reminded me of movies that I watched growing up. This
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: slow zoom in on the freeze frame reminded me of
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: seventies movies a little bit.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: We actually like all the Rocky movies.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Did that really? I never I've never seen Rocky movies.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: We shoot this show digitally, but we transferred that last
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: shot to film and retransferred it because we wanted to
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: have the grain to zoom in on.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: So it felt like a movie that would have been
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: shot on film, where they would have had an optical
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: printer that would have zoomed in on it. And it
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: goes to red, which we haven't really gone to before.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of signaling, Hey, we're going into
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a different tone here. Now we are going into a
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: different reality for these people. Boom bro right there, They're
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a different reality for these people. So they're gonna be again,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: what happens if the Lumen building gets destroyed?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Do the anies go with it?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Do those consciousness go with it? Because how far could
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: they get away?
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: And we know that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing that I'm not liking about this
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: ending of this show was that they could easily be
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: turned off whenever they want to. Again, we have the
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: overtime contingency. They have full control over these people at
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: any given point, so they could easily shut this whole
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: thing down if they truly want it too. Now, who's
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: left to do that? I mean, James Egan or Milchick
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: is still out there too, you know. Milchick is is
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: kind of the guy running things now with his uh
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: what is his verbose vocabulary or whatever it was.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Man, stop using big words, mister Milchik.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mister mister milkshake.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably my favorite character, especially after the band
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: part of it all, which that was super weird too,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the scene where they kind of run in. They're celebrating
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: and then Milchik does his thing where he's like dancing
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: and so he's breaking it down. Bro, I'm like, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: they were also, I don't know if you remember when
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Corbel sang that song for them in front of the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: of the office. She did like an acapella like a song.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: So they played the band played that song. I don't
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: know if you caught onto that now again, I don't know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: let me see here the which song.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: It was, to see if it's relevant. Lads severance. Again,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: there's so many strings to pull out, so.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: All the songs in several in season two from Who
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: to Ella Fitzgerald, Let's see here episode that was what
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: episode ten right here? So they have Cirrus Serious by
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Alan Park, the Alan Parsons Project, I'll Be Seeing You
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: by Billie Holiday, and the Windmills of.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Your Mind by mel to MEI or tourm What is
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: this hum all on?
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: They were also drawing from a What's that one?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Twilight Zone?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: They were also drawing from a from a twilight Zone
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: episode two I saw and one of these songs was
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: about to was supposedly about like mind control the Windmills
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: of your Mind?
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Is this one?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think? So let's see here. What's the song?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I forgot the name of the song that they played?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just a wild That was just a
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: wild scene. And the whole time I was like, man, Mark,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: you need to be getting out of here, like quick, dude,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Like you can't be just you just completed the file, bro,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you gotta be trying to figure out how to get
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: out of here, quick dude.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: So they played a version of the Kier Anthem, the
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: same song that Corbel scenes in MDR season one when
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: the group is back from O and D. The song
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and a song called Ballad of amber Rose and gonell.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I watched the episode once. Yeah, so I think this
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Ballad of amber Rose and Gonell is a Twilight Zone
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: show Amber Amberrose, Egan and Gnell Egan. What somebody said
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: low key the Ballad of Ambrose and Ganell slaps slaps, Yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: bro again, There's there's so much here. I'm I'm gonna
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: have to watch it again. Bro, There's there's just no way, like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: there's no way we could like, there's so many things
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I miss looking back at these, like theory uh uh
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: video season three severance theories. So here, oh, look at that,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: he says. Ben Stiller admits he enjoys wild Severn fan theories.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: That was twenty four hours ago. There you go, so theories.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: After watching season two finale, wanted to share some theories
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: about where the season next season could go. Have a
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: different ideas theories if it picks up where season two
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: left off and goes in a new direction. I want
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: to expect specs. Also love season two finale. It was
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: funny and sad in tragic all at the same time.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: The best parts of the band Helly hitting Milchick with
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: a with I think a trombone, the season with the
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: scene where the band was classic Milchick and what you
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: would expect from what was to be Leuman's finest day.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: It also added to the suspense of rescuing Gemma. It's
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: a lot, I know, but I would love to hear
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: what you guys think and where you think the show
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: could go from here. All of this is why I
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: think this show should go on for as long as
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: it can. Hell a great story, whether three, four and
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: five seasons all right, So, I know some people think
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: just three is enough, but it should go on as
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: long as it keeps us engaged.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't be limited to just three seasons. That there's
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: more left to tell us about, and there is a
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: lot we still don't know about Lumen Irving and jam
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: or Kiir Egan, James and Luhman try to make so
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: this is one of the theories Jame and Luhman try
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: to make Helly are more like Kier, or perhaps try
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: to make Helena more like Helly r. I say it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: because when James talks to Helly, he says she has
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: the fire of Kier and that he saw this in
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Helena when she.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Was a kid.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: James seems impressed with how Helly tricked him into thinking
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: she was Helena.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: So that's what I was.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Saying about him preferring his daughters. He loves his daughters
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: any and not his actual daughter. And now I don't
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: know that's gonna get like pdf bilish, like I don't
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: know if that's like part of this whole thing. How
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: there's some crazy theories. Maybe perhaps not, because that's kind
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: of wild and that's kind of out there.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: But what's weird is that heley R as the Any
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: is in love with Mark. And then it also sees
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: sounds like and feels like that Helena.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Is she really though, bro Like, is Helena truly in
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: love with Mark? Because she did have relations with him
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: on her own behalf.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. Both of them seem like
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: they're both in love with Mark. When whenever she wasn't severed, whenever,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: like in the first like two episodes or three episodes,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: when she wasn't severed, whenever she was working at lumin
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: they tried to pull a fast one on everyone, and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Irving exposed her. She slept with Mark as her audi
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: as Helena, meaning that we like, why would she do
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that if she didn't have any feelings for him? So
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: it seems like both of them. And then whenever she
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: met him outside, like as there Audi's at that restaurant,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: whenever Mark went to Saddan at the restaurant, and then
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: she saidden at the other table across from him.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, there's a there's a bunch of people in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: this family, the Egan family. There's a bunch of people
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: in it. I'm looking up Severn's family tree. You have
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Kier Egan, Deeter Egan, you have Emoji Egan, Ambarrose Egan,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Myrtle Egan, uh Baird Egan, Gerard Egan, Philip, Pip Egan,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Leonora Egan. There's a ton of them, Bro James Egan,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Helen Egan. There's there's a ton like this is this
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: is wild. I'm trying to see if I can find
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: a picture.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't even know how many other lumen type
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: buildings that there are in the world. I mean, it
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: made it sound like that they were wanting that there's
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of them, that we're just focusing on one
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: building out of maybe hundreds.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rather, this is getting into Cattle Lake territory with
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: this family tree.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: All right, So.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Here's sister, is their brother, and their brother's cousin, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: then their stepsister has a wife with a kid that
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: is actually their father.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: So check this out. We have all these egans. Is
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: this the board? Is this the consciousness of these egans
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: that they're tapping into when they talk to the board?
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Right with Natalie because her last name is redacted, right,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: So what yea is she He's the one that kind
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: of sort of transmits the board to them, right, She's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: like this priestess that's able to tap into the board
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and she's like they've logged off now or whatever it is, like,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: so it's super weird.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: They have ended the call.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have ended the call, right, So another thing,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: perhaps lumin activates the OTC for Helly on the outside
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: world so James can groom her for CEO or make
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: her more cure like. If not one above, we at
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: least need to learn more about James Egan's conversation with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Helly and what it meant and why it's important in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: the next season. Yeah, we're probably gonna get more background
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: on this. We see the indies in the first episode
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: or two refusing to leave the seventh floor as the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: macro data's uprising spreads to other departments. Helena will get
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: pregnant as a resort as a result of the ort bow,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: which yet I wasn't she sick in one of the episodes?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Didn't she feel weird in one of the episodes? Or
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: was that after she had learned that they had relations?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: That was after she found out that her audi had
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: had sexual relations with Mark, and then she didn't get
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: their experiences, so then they had they had.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: To pitch the tent. Yeah, okay, all right? Because I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: thought she was like throwing up on one season.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Maybe not.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I thought that was like morning sickness or something, right,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: again hinting at that she might be pregnant, Which what
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: happens then?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Like? Whose kid? Is that? Really?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: If it was created by and this is where you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: get into different almost like a liminal baby because it
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: was created within any and an audi, So what does
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: that make the kid? You get what I'm saying, because
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: obviously there are still people, but their consciousness wasn't all there.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: So is that like a severed baby? You know what
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, well, the baby have two consciousnesses? Or
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: like what is the plural for consciousness? Lural form of consciousness?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Am I saying it? Correctly. Yeah, consciousness is Yeah, that's weird.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Gemma will try to rescue Mark from the severed floor.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I talked about earlier. We will find out
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: that while Cold Harbor failed, when Gemma's any trusted Mark,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: it was only a setback and gives them an opportunity
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: to progress towards whatever their ultimate goal is. We will
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: see what Revolving is helen to become CEO, maybe in
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: a twist Helly after seeing James talk with her not
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: as just as a normal any we finally see what
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the board is. My guess it is that it's recent
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: past CEOs consciousness.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: There you go, dude, I think so too.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: We see Irving come back to join Devin, Mark and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Gemma as they try to expose Lumin and get Mark back.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That kind of seems weird because I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: think that they just gave Irving a good accent. I
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: think they just toss this character out.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Have I been calling him?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Irving is the guy that's in love with Chris Kin? Yeah?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Dylan is Okay, I was getting Devin and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Dylan mixed up.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Dylan, Dylan is the one that his wife
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: keeps coming back to the Lumen and his wife is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: catching feelings for his any and not liking his Audi.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: That was so weird. Dude was so weird. And then
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: he got so salty with her whenever she told him
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that he had she had made out with his any.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we learned more about Irving, perhaps that he was
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: on the testing for himself. At one point, we learned
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: who Irving was talking to on the phone trying to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: bring down Lumen, perhaps someone on the inside.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I don't remember that part.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: We learn more about Lumen's ultimate goal or endgame, perhaps
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: to live forever, and the chips are a way to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: achieve that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: I think so too.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: This is all about transhumanism and achieving this quantum immortality,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: if you will. Cobell might turn on Mark and Devin.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: She only joined them because she's angry at Luman for
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: firing her and not getting credit for designing.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Did she kiss her brother, Dude, By the way.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: She did make out with that guy, But I'm not
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: sure if that was was that her brother.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Was that her brother, was that her ex husband?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of thought it was her
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: brother in the in the beginning of it, and then
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: whenever they made out. I don't know, it might have been.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: You.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: We're getting some Game of Thrones ask stuff going on here.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Let's see. I don't know if it was. I know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: he was. I know he was a Cobell for sure,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: because she says his name.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: But if they were like good friends, or if they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: both were at the weird orphanage place together, or if
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: they were a family.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Or who did Cobel kiss?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: So Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's father, Hampton
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: after they both have ether together. Harmony's father. Who the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: hell's Harmony was that that girl, the one at the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: bottom floor.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who Harmony is.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: It might be the lady that she was talking about
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: that killed her mom. So Harmony Cobell, I'm so confused
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: right now, Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's brother Hampton.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Who the hell is Hampton Cobell right because she says
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: his name. Hampton is a childhood friend of Harmony Cobell. Okay,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: so I was a friend. It wasn't her brother.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: They kind of made it seem like that it was
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: her brother though a little.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Bit all right.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: So as a child Hampton worked at the Ether factory
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: owned and operated by Lumin Industries, alongside his friend Harmony Cobel.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: There they both became addicted to ether. When they grew up,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Harmony left and began working for Lumen Severed Floor. When
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: she returned to Salt's Neck, Hampton initially refused to help her,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: but ultimately decided to drive her to her aunt's.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: House at her request.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: He waited outside for her for several hours before going
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: inside to get her. He brought ether and they got
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: high together, and then he helped her out of the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: storm shelter on the property where she found what she
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: was looking for. She was confronting her aunt when Hampton
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: called her to tell her someone was coming.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: He let her take the truck to help her escape.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: So they were close friends. I thought it was her brother,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: but I was like, what is happening here? So Coba
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Mike turn on them.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: We see a flashback and learn how PD and or
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Irving both new about the testing floor. Like a couple
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: others have said, we see Mark continuing to have to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: make choices that pin his Audi against his any. Helena
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: continues to try to get with Mark, whether OUTI or any.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Helena starts to betray her father James Eagan as he
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: becomes more like Helly.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: She already.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Seems to be having somewhat of an arc as she
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: when she's with Mark at the Ortbow and apologizes for
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: distracting him finding his wife. She doesn't make a distinction
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: between Indian audi. As the stakes rise, we learn about
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: grund debates about whether to outlaw or to keep severance
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: w This is in Kier, the state or Congress. Along
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: with nineteen maybe, we see Helena a congressional hearing testifying
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: against Mark and Gemma about what they've experienced. We see
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: backstory on James Eagan or even Ker himself, and see
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Helena as a kid being groomed to be CEO of Lumen,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: especially after the animatronic Kere saying his grand agenda is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: closer to being so he does say this, that the
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: agenda is closer to being fulfilled.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Where the hell is all this going?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like from my theory, and I mentioned
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: this on the last episode of The Schizospiracy Hour, that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: it seems like they just want to breed people to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: work here like permanently so they don't have to deal
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: with these people anymore. Like they don't have to deal
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: with severing these people. They don't have to deal with
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: innies and autis. They just have full time in ease
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: that are essentially robots that have no emotions and they
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: work there forever. I mean, that seems like the end
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: goal and is like what they want. It's kind of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: like the version of the Ananaki story right where the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Anonachi come down. They you know, create this version of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: like work her bees, which is in turn us to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: mine all this gold and mine all this stuff for them,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: for their whatever. It's That's what it seems like and
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: like what they're trying to accomplish. And I think that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: that is the goal. Now whether they actually it doesn't
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: seem like they're going to complete that because of this
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: hiccup that they're having with Mark right now. So but
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: that seems like what they're what the whole end goal is,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: and it might have been because of the goat that
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: didn't get sacrificed. Is the reason, is the reason why
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the rest of her consciousness is didn't get separated from her.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: So that's why it couldn't be complete. That's why she
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't permanently be you know, perma burnt in that new
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: section of consciousness, so she wouldn't be like that forever
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: because the goat didn't get sacrificed, So all the consciousness
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: is that had been split that they had been working
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: on for years stayed in there because the way to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: get rid of all those was to kill the goat.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: So they would essentially have all of those split consciousnesses
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: that were inside of her inside of the goat. So
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: whenever they killed the goat, that would get rid of
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: all those and then she would permanently be like that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: emotionless entity that was taking apart the crip.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: And check this out, bro, Queen bees use mind control
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: to keep young workers online. A queen bee needs to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: keep her subjects common quiet, and she does this so
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: by seek secreting a scent that prevents worker bees from learning.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: According to you, this is two thousand and seven, Bro.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: What that's wild?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: The study published This is from two thousand and seven.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: The study published this week in the journal Science found
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: that a component in the queen's pheromone inhibits inhibits the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: sterile worker bee's ability to learn from negative experiences. That's wild,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and that kind of sort of ties into this hole, right,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the beehive, the Masonic symbolism, this whole thing where the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: outside real person whatever that is, doesn't really know what's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: going on on the inside, so they're not learning from
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: the negative experiences of like the uprising and everything else.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: And it's like, hey, you hurt your hand. Yeah, they
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: told me I fell off a cliff or something, right,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: like I remember when he had hurt his back or
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: something or other. So again they're kind of hinting at
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: this sort of a b thing. So by preventing aversive learning,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: the queen ensures that her youngest offspring will stay in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: the hive and not use their things even if something
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: unpleasant occurs. The active scent element is very similar to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the brain compound dopamine, which is involved in learning and
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: memory and humans as well as I wonder, dude, if
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: within the hive these bees are under this mind control
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: and then outside of the hive they're not, that'd be
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: very interesting because the bees are severed.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: The bees are severed inside the hive, And that's why
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: the Freemasons use the hive symbolism, not the bees, right,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: but with the Wakerman and everything. And then outside the hive.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: When they're not next to the queen, they're a different
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: They're the audi version of like, Hey, I just got
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: to go collect pollen and do all this other stuff.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Then I come back and I'm in I'm a drone again,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: you know, Like.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: That's bro.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Evers learning is when the animal makes an association between
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: a particular odor and a nasty experience. A senior study author,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Alison Mercer, a neurobiologist at the University of Otago and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: New Zealand, ought to go The nasty experience in the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: study was a mild electric shock accompanied by a particular smell.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Honey Bees separated from the queen extend their stings when
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: they detected the odor, but young honey bees exposed to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the queen's fermone did not respond to the smell. Bro
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Outside the hive, they're not severed inside, They're severed while
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: they're in contact with that queen's fermone. The young bees
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: that groom the queen are exposed to very high levels
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: of her pheromone. Older bees, which forge for food outside
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: the hive are capable of averse learning, Otherwise they would
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: have a little chance for survival.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: There.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: It is, dude, like you got into the real world.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: You take care of your any by eating, resting, Right,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: That was the whole thing. With the end, He's like, hey,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: how do you guys distinguish between a weekend and the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: next day. We just show up here again, and he's like, no,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: you'll learn the effects of when you get a good
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: night's sleep.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Is you know something along those lines.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: It's like, you'll learn to appreciate the effects of sleep
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: because they never slept, and then when they finally do sleep,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: we see that they dream. Remember with Irving and his
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: weird dream that he had with the with one of
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: the Woes or whatever it was, that he saw the lady,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: the short lady. He had like some weird, trippy ass dream.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: So that the homunculous dude dream writer, What does that mean?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I say, not the bees.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Roh.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. I never never knew about that.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: And that's from two thousand and seven, so imagine how
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: far the study is probably gone.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Right, I didn't know that about bees. I mean, I
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: knew that the queen bee had everything to do with
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: like their behavior, but I didn't know that that was
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: only inside of the hive. So this does that makes sense?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: So the closer the bees to the queen bee. The
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: more that it's controlled, the further that it is a way.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Fringe research suggests that the insects that are essential to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: agriculture have emotions, dreams, and even PTSD they're talking about
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: probably talking about.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Bees ptsdbs having dreams and everything.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Bro. So Nick Cage was right, not the bees, not
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: that bees anyways, Bro, this is uh, this goes deep. Man.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for season three.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: To what I'm not liking is I hate when I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: start a new show that has like little bits of
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: episodes that are like recent, because then I have to
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: wait for the next season come out.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Well, at least we didn't have to wait for a
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: season two because some people have been waiting three years
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: for this season.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the writers strike or whatever it was contributed to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: it being delayed, which we're not gonna hopefully not have that.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: But season three severance.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Stiller said that it wasn't going to be
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: another three years, so hopefully it'll be.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: So this is three days ago seven season three release
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: date speculation. So let's see here what it says.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: It'll be two years like every other standard.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Oh man, that's the lame, dude. I can't wait three years.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait three years to talk about
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  Speaker 2: this again.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to rewatch the whole thing again.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, they might surprise us and be like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: next year or whatever. We we already recorded it and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: they like drop it, right. I mean that could also be.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be dope if they maybe like the same time
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  Speaker 2: next year, dropped it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happened to me with Yellow Jackets. I watched
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  Speaker 1: the id binge the first two seasons of Yellow Jackets,
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  Speaker 1: and then the third season just came out like, I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: don't know, a month ago, and I couldn't remember anything
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: We shot the show, so it took us a little
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: bit to regroup because there was the sag Aftra and
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Riders Guild of America strikes, so that was delayed because
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: of that. And then it says here it took us
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit to regroup in the show. We shot
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: for one hundred and eighty six days on season two.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Editing takes a while, but thank goodness, the audience was
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: there when we came back. The challenge was to get
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: people who hadn't seen the show to watch the first season,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: so Apple did a really good job getting the word
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: out and we did as much press as we could. Also,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: three years later, Apple TV is actually a different it's
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: a different situation there now because they have more viewers.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: When we started out, we were one of the first shows.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: So one hundred and eighty six days. That's like essentially
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  Speaker 2: that's almost five six months a half a year, So
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  Speaker 2: half a year, let's say if they start now, that's
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  Speaker 2: the editing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah a year, bro, a year to two years, damn
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  Speaker 3: we get wrecked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be around two years. That's the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: standard for all of the TV shows, which I've never
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: understood why it takes that long. They need to shorten
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: that time up. I remember back in the day when
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: it was every year. Every year was the next season
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: of a show. But it's not like that anymore.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: So I guess we'll see you guys in another year now.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Probably two years. Good, two years, two years and we'll
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: be talking about season three or sevens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I mean again, dude, you want to add
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: anything else, I think that just watch the show people.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, but watch it, like, give your attention to it,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: because if not, you're gonna struggle. Because I struggled with
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: some other things. I'm like, what the hell is that?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I had to replay some parts over because I either
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention when was playing or whatever to really
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: capture it. And I missed a ton of stuff. And
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: there's a ton of stuff in season one I missed
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: because again I know it is going to play a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: role later on. So pay attention.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: It's important.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Pay attention. You can binge all of the first season
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: and the second season together. You don't have to wait,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: but then you got to, unfortunately wait for the third season,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to wait. But yeah, just if
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: you get a chance, throw it on. Pay attention. Watch
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: every episode and see what you guys think. And if
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: you've already watched, to leave a comment down below and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: let us know what you thought of the series.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: One. Where can people find you?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Brother www dot t j o JP dot com, YouTube
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: dot com, slash at t j o JP, Patreon dot com,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: slash the one on one podcast, all that good stuff.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, my website find all my stuff on there.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Cool, thank you, And if you're listening to this on
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: one show, you can find me at Raised by Giants
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and an all podcast platforms. All right, guys,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the next show with One will be next month for
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: the MAGA Conspiracy Hour Schizospiracy number three, so be looking
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: forward to that one. All right, see you guys next time.
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  Speaker 2: Bye bye,