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Buckeyes vs. Longhorns: 4 Reasons Ohio State Will (Or Won't!) Beat Texas · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeye Tomorrow Morning for Friday, August twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 1: vibes on today's show are going to depend on which
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  Speaker 1: half you're listening to first, and depending on which team
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  Speaker 1: you're rooting for. In Saturday's big game between number one
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  Speaker 1: Texas and number two Ohio State, we're gonna be doing
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  Speaker 1: four reasons Ohio State will beat Texas and four reasons
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  Speaker 1: Texas will beat Ohio State because honestly, this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a pretty good, pretty competitive game, and really
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should be all that confident they
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  Speaker 1: know exactly who's gonna win. But we're gonna be talking
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  Speaker 1: about it both sides of things. Are doing it with
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  Speaker 1: our buddy Kevin Noon of buckeyehde Huddle dot com. Kevin,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to start here with four reasons Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: will beat Texas. If you're watching this on YouTube, you
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  Speaker 1: can just search for for in Texas will beat Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be out in just a few hours. You can
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  Speaker 1: get the other side of things there on YouTube, on
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  Speaker 1: your podcast platforms, this will all be one big show.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, Kevin, let's start with if Ohio State's
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  Speaker 1: going to beat Texas. You can look through and there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of areas where you go, Yeah, that's a real
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  Speaker 1: area of strength to this team. That's a real area
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  Speaker 1: of strength of this team. And then you get to
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  Speaker 1: Texas's offensive line, and between some turnover and some injuries
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  Speaker 1: and guys who aren't going to play or guys who
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  Speaker 1: are going to play but maybe not be one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: that feels like that's not a strength for Texas. And
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  Speaker 1: that's an area where if you're on the road in
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  Speaker 1: a hostile environment, you want to be feeling good about
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  Speaker 1: your offensive line. And I'm not sure how great Texas
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  Speaker 1: is feeling about theirs.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to three different Texas people kind of off
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  Speaker 2: the record, and the varying concern about the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: is from concern to quite concerned. I guess It just
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  Speaker 2: depends on what the tolerance of each person is. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they only really have one true returning starter. That doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean they don't have any starts on their offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: but they really only have one true starter who's coming back.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you couple that with some injuries, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of their tackles is going to be playing apparently
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  Speaker 2: with a cast on his hand. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: not ideal. And as you mentioned, you know, first start
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  Speaker 2: as a unit on the road. Say what you will
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  Speaker 2: about a noon game. Maybe it's going to be sleepy,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think it's going to be completely sleepy.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are going to get into it. It
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  Speaker 2: is problematic. Got a quarterback who's really making his first
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  Speaker 2: high leverage start. He you know, Arch does have some starts,
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  Speaker 2: but his first high leverage start. If Ohio State is
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  Speaker 2: able to speed him up because the offensive line isn't
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  Speaker 2: able to slow things down, that's not going to bode well.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, on the flip side, Ohio State can't allow
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  Speaker 2: him to just get out there and start improvising with
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  Speaker 2: his legs. That sometimes happens when pocket breaks down, when
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  Speaker 2: you're not comfortable in the pocket, you know, things of
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  Speaker 2: that nature. But that Texas offensive line, I think is
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  Speaker 2: I think the concerns are real. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: something that the media is is jitting up to just
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  Speaker 2: get people talking, you know, another talking point. Let's you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's sell some subs or whatever. No, it's real, it's real.
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  Speaker 2: It is, it is. It is a concern there. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, because even if one of three people would
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  Speaker 2: come back to me, it's like, oh, that's just a
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  Speaker 2: load of hooey. That's just too much. None of them
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  Speaker 2: did it. And I mean and one of the three
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  Speaker 2: brought it up before I could bring it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that does feel like a concern. They lost someone
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  Speaker 1: for the season, I mean a while ago, so this
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  Speaker 1: is not like a sudden thing. But one of the
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  Speaker 1: projected starters at tackle out for the year, Trevor Goosby,
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  Speaker 1: is the one who may have a club on his
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  Speaker 1: hand or a wrapped hand or something like that that's
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  Speaker 1: going to impact your ability to maybe do a little
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  Speaker 1: selective grabbing of guys coming around the edge. Like all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff is. This is a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: concern before, and it feels like it's sort of become
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more of a concern for Texas as
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  Speaker 1: they've kind of gone through through the preseason camp in
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  Speaker 1: the last month or so. So next up, And this
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  Speaker 1: is going to sound weird when you remember that he
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  Speaker 1: only had one catch versus for three yards in the
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  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl the last time these two teams played earlier
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  Speaker 1: this year. But Texas has had some turnover in that secondary,
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  Speaker 1: and they lost a couple very very talented players, one
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  Speaker 1: at corner, one at safety, and so now you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to replace those guys, and now you might not be
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  Speaker 1: able to do all the things you did against Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: Smith in the Cotton Bowl. I think Texas that's ted.
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  Speaker 1: Secondary is another area where I don't think Texas is
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  Speaker 1: as concerned as offensive line, but I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: they're feeling great. And when you're going up against Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: Smith and the rest of the Ohio State receiving Corps,
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  Speaker 1: that's another area where you would want to maybe be
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  Speaker 1: feeling a little better about things when you're walking into
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  Speaker 1: the Horseshoe on Saturday morning exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they do have Malik Muhammad back, they got
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  Speaker 2: Michael Taffy back. I mean, they do have some talent
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  Speaker 2: in that secondary, but you do lose a lot then,
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  Speaker 2: and while Ohio State loses a Mecca Buga, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you had Smith, Buca and Tate, you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: certainly made things a little bit more complicated. You know,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be the third receiver for Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a you know, committee type of situation, whether it's Ennis
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  Speaker 2: or Bryce and Rodgers or Ylon Graham or whoever whoever
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  Speaker 2: it may be. But can Texas. You know, Texas certainly
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  Speaker 2: understands conceptually how to take Jeremiah Smith maybe out of
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  Speaker 2: the game a little bit, but that's easier said than done.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't have the Jimmies and the Joe's
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  Speaker 2: necessarily to do that, it's it's it's problematic for them now.
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  Speaker 2: I also think that Jeremiah is going to remember very
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  Speaker 2: vividly that Texas game and he's good. He's good. Not
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  Speaker 2: that Jeremiah doesn't give one hundred and ten percent in
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  Speaker 2: every game, but I think that this one is going
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  Speaker 2: to be personal for him, and I think we're really
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  Speaker 2: going to see, you know, it's not going to be
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  Speaker 2: from a lack of effort from Jeremiah to try and
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  Speaker 2: get open and try and have some plays. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've gone back and I've watched that Texas games multiple
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  Speaker 2: times and I've seen the little three yard play to
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah is like, can you believe it? That was it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, I'm not saying that Jeremiah
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  Speaker 2: is going to go for a buck seventy five and
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  Speaker 2: three Teddies, But i am saying I'm going to take
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  Speaker 2: the over of one reception and whatever it was, three yards,
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the over now.
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  Speaker 1: You don't, as someone who is that is, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to play in that sandbox every week. That is
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  Speaker 1: Tony and I do. Again, you can find that in
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  Speaker 1: the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed. And we did have some
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  Speaker 1: stuff on exactly what we're expecting from Jeremiah Smith on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: So next up talked about the Texas offensive line well,
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  Speaker 1: hire State also turning over the number of players from
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  Speaker 1: its offensive line from last year, but they also you've
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of these guys doing it at a
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  Speaker 1: high level, not all at the same position, but you
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  Speaker 1: saw four of these guys playing on last year's team
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs against Texas and they won. So you've
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  Speaker 1: got potentially an advantage there and Texas. We'll get in
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  Speaker 1: the reasons to feel optimistic for Texas half of the
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  Speaker 1: programming on some of the guys, but you know, the
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  Speaker 1: interior that Texas defensive line, they're replacing a lot of guys,
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  Speaker 1: they lost a lot of talent. It feels like this
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  Speaker 1: could be a game where Ohio State wins on the
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  Speaker 1: trenches on both sides of the ball. And if you
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  Speaker 1: do that, that becomes a tougher game to.
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  Speaker 2: Lose, right exactly. I mean, we've talked about Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: maybe having seven eight guys game ready on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: You generally only play five unless you're getting really you know,
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  Speaker 2: exotic with your moves and everything else. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: what does it look like for Ohio State the interior
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  Speaker 2: line is you know, that's where the depth of talent
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  Speaker 2: is in terms of Ohio State experience. Whereas you know,
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  Speaker 2: you may you know, with a Philip Daniels or with
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  Speaker 2: you know, with the Rice transfer. I mean, they have
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  Speaker 2: experience at their programs. But you know, with the lack
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  Speaker 2: of depth that Texas has on the interior line coupled
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  Speaker 2: with Ohio State's interior line, you know, I think that
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  Speaker 2: that's a good situation. Now you know what happens out
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  Speaker 2: of the tackle position. I think that's going to tell
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  Speaker 2: us a lot of stuff there. But when you have
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  Speaker 2: an inexperienced quarterback in Julian saying, getting him an extra second,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe even two mississippis out there is not
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  Speaker 2: going to hurt, you know, for him to be able
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  Speaker 2: to scan the field, maybe have some more complex routes
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  Speaker 2: being run, things of that nature. Let Jeremiah Smith do
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  Speaker 2: some Jeremiah Smith type of things. All of that's important.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can give Jeremiah Smith a chance to
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  Speaker 1: get down there, you can run the Jeremiah down there
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  Speaker 1: somewhere play guessing that is going to be in the
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  Speaker 1: playbook somewhere on Saturday. Last thing, And you sort of
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  Speaker 1: touched on this earlier a little bit. Ohio State does
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  Speaker 1: have the home field advantage, and yeah, I know it's
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  Speaker 1: a noon game and it's not going to be quite
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  Speaker 1: as oh spirited, zesti whatever you want to say, as
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  Speaker 1: a primetime game might be. But we've seen Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: make opponents run silent count. This kind of goes in
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  Speaker 1: hand in hand with some of the offensive line stuff
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  Speaker 1: we talked about. It just makes life a little more difficult,
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  Speaker 1: and in a game where the talent is really pretty
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  Speaker 1: equated in a lot of spots, something like just having
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  Speaker 1: to take that extra half a second when to you know,
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  Speaker 1: look down the line for the silent count or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, that might be a difference maker. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you would rather play this, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know exactly how much it's going to help, but you'd
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  Speaker 1: rather play this game in Columbus than Austin if you're
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Ohio State at no point was going to
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  Speaker 2: sign up to play back to back years in Austin.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're going to take your home game again. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of feelings, a lot of anger that this isn't
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  Speaker 2: a night game or even a three thirty game, do
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  Speaker 2: you know, to split the difference? It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a it's a noon game.
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  Speaker 2: I guess your choice is if you're that mad about it,
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  Speaker 2: don't watch it. I don't think that that's going to happen, though,
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to watch it. But yeah, Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State can get out there and then create some havoc
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  Speaker 2: with the fans and force you know, force the silent counts.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think it's going to do
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  Speaker 2: anything in terms of getting Ohio State any benefits in
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  Speaker 2: terms of getting holding calls going in its direction, because
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  Speaker 2: we saw that was an issue last year. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a new year. Maybe maybe things will be different.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're watching this and you have a ticket
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  Speaker 2: to the game, I'm sure that Ryan Day would really
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  Speaker 2: want Tom and myself to say be loud, you know,
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  Speaker 2: from from opening kickoff until Carmen Ohio at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the game. But yeah, I think it certainly is
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  Speaker 2: a benefit because if you look at this, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the line on Thursday was still one and a half
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  Speaker 2: two depending on the book. So honestly, if you go
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  Speaker 2: with the true number this or at a neutral site,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, be a pick them, maybe edging slightly
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  Speaker 2: toward Texas if you believe that home field is three
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  Speaker 2: three and a half or something like that, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is a chance that you know, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to get one of those Buckeyes that they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Issuing to the to the crowd is part of their
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  Speaker 2: new stadium game day experience situation. Be drinking some hot tea,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on Friday, just to make sure that the
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  Speaker 2: vocal cords are clear and everything else that you can
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  Speaker 2: be as loud as possible.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So you've heard four reasons that Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: will bet Texas. Now we're going to look at four
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  Speaker 1: reasons why Texas will beat Ohio State. So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: I think the first one to me is arch Manning
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  Speaker 1: is the real deal, and he has another year of
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  Speaker 1: experience above and beyond Julian Saying. Just the pure quarterback
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  Speaker 1: versus quarterback matchup. These are both five star recruits from
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  Speaker 1: the high school days, two of the most sought after
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  Speaker 1: quarterback prospects to come into college football in the last
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  Speaker 1: few years. But Julian Saying was five for twelve last year.
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  Speaker 1: That's the extent of his experience. He's only been on
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  Speaker 1: campus for a little over a year and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Arch Manning has been on campus for a longer. He
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  Speaker 1: had a couple starts last year and that extra those reps.
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  Speaker 1: He also, maybe most importantly, was the number one guy
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  Speaker 1: all year. He was not splitting reps all spring. He
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  Speaker 1: was not splitting reps all fall camp in the way
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  Speaker 1: that Julian Sane was for most of the year. If
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  Speaker 1: Texas is going to win this game, I think Arch
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  Speaker 1: Manning has got to be the Arch Manning that has
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  Speaker 1: been promised for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to see the Arch Manning that was
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  Speaker 2: going to come in and Bino Cook style win three
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  Speaker 2: Heisman's or whatever, and so on and so forth. And
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  Speaker 2: the jury is still out. And that's not an anti
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  Speaker 2: art statement. He was backing up when yours last year.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we did get to see arch when
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  Speaker 2: he did when yours was a little banged up and
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  Speaker 2: he got to come in. We got to see him
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  Speaker 2: in some situational situations. Situational situations, I guess that's true.
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  Speaker 2: But you you go forward with that. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: does have the deeper depth of experience, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: by all accounts, Arch is a really good player. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's in vogue right now to like
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  Speaker 2: diminish what he's done because he's going against Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure that's what our listeners want to hear
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  Speaker 2: is me saying, well, he ain't. He ain't all that great.
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  Speaker 2: But that's I'm not doing anybody any favors by saying
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  Speaker 2: that he's very talented and you know, the experience edge
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  Speaker 2: at quarterback is going to go to Texas, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: if if Arch balls out, it's you know it game on,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna it's going to be a you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That is going to be a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is also worth having the conversation
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  Speaker 1: up front. This is this is not one of our
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  Speaker 1: four four reasons Texas will be to Ohio State. This
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  Speaker 1: is just sort of more general life advice. These are
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  Speaker 1: both five star, very talented quarterbacks playing under very very
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  Speaker 1: talented quarterback developing head coaches. They're both probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be pretty darn good at some point, so one making
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  Speaker 1: his first career start against a top five team, one
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  Speaker 1: making his first career start against any team. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: go too far with the hot takes in the wake
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  Speaker 1: of this that whoever loses this game is a bust
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  Speaker 1: and is never going to do anything that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a great way to get yourself freezing cold.
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  Speaker 1: Take probably in a matter of six to ten weeks
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  Speaker 1: or so, as these guys continue to build up their
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  Speaker 1: experience and be able to more, you know, capitalize more
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  Speaker 1: on there. They're physical talents and they're you know, all
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  Speaker 1: the things that made them five stars. So these two
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  Speaker 1: this might not even be the last time these two
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  Speaker 1: teams play each other this year. And as we saw
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  Speaker 1: last year in the case of Ohio State in Oregon,
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  Speaker 1: there were a lot of hashtag takes from Oregon fans
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  Speaker 1: that did not age real well right about the time
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  Speaker 1: the sun was setting in Pasadena, California on New Year's Day.
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  Speaker 1: So you never, how the first game goes does not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily have a whole lot of bearing on how the
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  Speaker 1: second game goes in situations like that, so maybe keep
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  Speaker 1: your powder dry whether your team is the one that
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  Speaker 1: wins or loses on Saturday. So all right, so there's
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  Speaker 1: one one reason that Texas will beat Ohio State on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another one when you look at the Ohio State defense,
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State defense that beat Texas, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: really the defense beat Texas because it got down, Texas
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  Speaker 1: got about as close as you could to time the game,
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  Speaker 1: and then Jack Sawyer made a play that you may remember,
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  Speaker 1: but you know the rest of the Ohio State defense.
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  Speaker 1: There was a play before that, but laythan Ransom that
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  Speaker 1: really kind of they've they really kind of blew up
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  Speaker 1: a blip pay play and pushed Texas back out of
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  Speaker 1: the first and goal at the one and set up
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  Speaker 1: that big Jack Sawyer play. But I'm saying a lot
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  Speaker 1: of names of guys who are not on Ohio States
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  Speaker 1: defense anymore. State returns just three starters. They also have
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  Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator and Kevin. I think it's reasonable
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  Speaker 1: to wonder with all the turnover at the on the
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  Speaker 1: field and with the turnover with the guy with the
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  Speaker 1: headset up in the box, that's something that can take
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: a little while to work out some kinks and and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: sort of find you find your flow and find your
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: strength during the course of the season. And they don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: have the luxury of ramping up.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, fortunately, they're not going from running like a
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: dime base to going to an odd odd man front
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like a three four. I mean, it's going to be
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a decent amount of carryover in
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: terms of what the package is, but still getting plays
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: in you know, maybe you know some some tendencies and
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: do you really have tendencies week one? I mean, I
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: guess it's in theory, you do, I mean, based on
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: what you've been calling in practice, but it's still a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: new operation. I mean, it's a new operation with you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with with a new coordinator, and things happen, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: things happen, So Ohio State is going to have to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: be that much more on it. They're going to have
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to have good communication, you know, as it goes down
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to the green dot. They're going to have to be
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: able to get the play you know, completely, you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: disseminated to everybody on the field. It's it's another fail point.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: It's another point that can fail. Now just because they're
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: multiple fail points in the chain doesn't mean you're going
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to have that many breaks. But it's just somewhere else
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that something can get loose and steam can come out
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: of and that's could create issues. So yeah, I think
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that that that's a very you know, very realistic, you
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: know statement that that that is a concern.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Another thing that has been a concern going back to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: even spring ball for Ohio State is the interior of
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, and particularly the depth of the interier
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: of the defensive line. Feels like, you're feeling pretty good
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: about Caiden McDonald and you're feeling pretty good about Edwarck Houston,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: who may or may not be one hundred percent on Saturday.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a concern. But then the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: depth at the interior of the defensive line position, that's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a spot where if Texas can take advantage of that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: If Edward Houston is not able to play more than
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: twenty five thirty snaps, for example, and you're playing depth
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: guys that you're not quite as comfortable with, and Texas
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is able to run the ball, well, that opens up
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff. If they can run the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: ball between the tackles, that opens up all sorts of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: stuff for arch manning in the passing game, and that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: really could be something that really swings the game to Texas.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and even look at Kayden McDonald, he's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: somebody I mean what, I don't know off the top
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: of my head, what the most you know, snaps that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: he's had in a game. But I'm going to I'm
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: going to assume that it's not a gigantic number. I mean,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: there were a lot of times that he was out
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: there a significant amount of time, you know, Tyler Williams,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: what have you. But it is a concern.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: One thing I will say is, and this is coming
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: out on my Friday by the numbers piece, that Texas
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: is averaging just ninety nine yards a game against Ohio State. Now,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: what does the two thousand and five game have to
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: do with a twenty twenty five game. Nothing, by the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: numbers is looking at trends things of that nature. I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it's not always going to be as you know, as
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: black and white. But you know, there is the concern
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of the depth. I you know, I'm I'm still a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: little surprised that we are talking as much about Will
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Smith Junior right now as we are, because I thought
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that it might take him a couple of years before
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: he would be a rotational piece. And if you're looking
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: at a situation of where Edwick Houston isn't able to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: go as much as you would like or whatever, suddenly
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we're talking a lot more about Will Smith U and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you're suddenly we're talking in a lot more about Jason Moore.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: We're talking about guys like that, and for feeling pretty
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: good about Ohio State's edge. J Hicks isn't playing tackle.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Bo Atkinson isn't playing tackle. There are a lot of
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: guys that aren't playing tackle and kind of need those guys.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely need those guys. And you mentioned not
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: knowing the exact snap counts. I looked him up while
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you're talking. Kate McDonald played two hundred and fourteen snaps
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: last season, Edward Houston one hundred and forty one. That
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: sounds like a lot until I tell you that ty
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Hamilton played six hundred and sixty eight and Tyler Williams
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: played five hundred and eighty three. Will Smith, who was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: potentially that next man up at one of those interior spots,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: thirty five snaps all last year, so could potentially play
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: as many in a game as he did all season.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: That is not out of the realm of possibility. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: did injury. The defensive line definitely a little bit of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a question mark on the Ohio State side of things.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: One thing that's not a question on the Texas side
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of things is a couple of those guys who might
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: be coming off the edge at a tremendous amount of
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: speed directly at Julian saying Colin Simmons and Anthony Hill,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I mean they have some Texas It's easy to for
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Ohio State people to go, yeah, they're not going to lose.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They've got Jeremiah Smith and they've got Caleb Downs. Texas
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: has some dudes as well on the defense. And while
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's easy to look and go, yeah, Ohio States should
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: be okay. In terms of the offensive line, you don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: know until you see it on the field. And Texas
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: has guys who are really going to put that Ohio
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: State offensive line to the test.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have Anthony Hill junior at linebacker, when
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you've got Colin Simmons, you know kind of as you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: as your edge guy, I mean they are, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: very concerning. I mean they're both you know, super talented players.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean All SEC caliber, all All America caliber type
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of players. And yes, Ohio State practice is super hard.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So practice is tougher than games. Well, I'm here to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: tell you that this Texas game is probably going to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: be tougher than practice. It just it just is because
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: in practice, you you know, you're not generally taking people
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to the ground, so there's not the injury factor. You're
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: not you know, kind of what the other the other
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: side of the ball is doing, because you know, you're
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a team. Now you're going against somebody who's going to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: do kind of whatever, you know, whatever they need to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: do to win. So yeah, I just think that that
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: creates all sorts of issues.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Well, we will find out on Saturday which team has
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: more issues. You have now heard the four reasons Ohio
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: State will win and the four reasons that Texas will win.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We will all find out together on Saturday afternoon which
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: one actually does win, but again might not be the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: last two times last time these two teams play this season,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and if it's half as good as the last time
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: these two teams played down in Texas, sign me up.
• 22:49
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• 22:51
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