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  Speaker 2: It's nicely through like conspiracy theories and music. So this
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  Speaker 2: although after we kind of get our foot in, we're
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of different documentaries. But for this initial run
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  Speaker 2: This is the first introduction to documentaries was getting into
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that's the first thing I've ever seen. Was like Hey,
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  Speaker 3: did you know that the government's corrupt?
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  Speaker 2: every scene and all that. And then I started watching
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  Speaker 2: sort of History Channel or Nature documentaries a little Ants
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  Speaker 2: and the Bees and stuff. But yeah, the first time
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  Speaker 2: that I saw legitimate conspiracy documentary, it kind of blew
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  Speaker 2: my mind because it felt like it's got that educational flair,
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  Speaker 2: but this is something that I'm actually interested in, not
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  Speaker 2: just because it happens to be in front of me,
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  Speaker 2: but it also wasn't that well produced either, and that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a thing that happens with conspiracy documentaries.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, they're not always top quality, but they have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of information that intrigues you.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess you're right.
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  Speaker 3: The first documentary is probably like when I'm young in
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  Speaker 3: those Disney look at ants and this is how a
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  Speaker 3: snake eats a rat. That's probably the first introductions of documentary.
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  Speaker 3: But when I chose to watch it, it was interesting
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  Speaker 3: conspiratorial cover ups and you know, kind of what we're
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  Speaker 3: doing today.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of that low production quality, this first one
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  Speaker 2: that we picked out is a great example of this one.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned that already when we were talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: but also when I first mentioned this, out of all
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  Speaker 2: of the hundreds, like infinite possibilities of what documentaries should
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  Speaker 2: we cover for the first episode under the Docks, and
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  Speaker 2: I just went right to Money Masters and you were like, yeah, Bet,
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  Speaker 2: like you immediately agreed, and I'm just curious, like what
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  Speaker 2: is it about Money Masters that you were like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good place to start too.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's relatable because some of the conspiratory ones
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  Speaker 3: we might dip down later on. It's not for everybody, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: this is something that a person that's not necessarily into
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  Speaker 3: conspiracies could enjoy, minus the production value maybe, but enjoy
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  Speaker 3: the actual knowledge that there's a lot of information in there.
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  Speaker 2: A good point too, is that I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I would advocate everyone go and watch this entire four
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  Speaker 2: hour thing. I mean, I hope you will. I hope
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  Speaker 2: anyone watching or listening ends up checking out the entire
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  Speaker 2: three and a half hour documentary. But it's also a
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  Speaker 2: really good example for this series because I got faith
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  Speaker 2: in everyone, right. I trust everyone listening. You're smart, You've
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  Speaker 2: got you know your priorities, right, But I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna figure out how to get four hours
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  Speaker 2: of your life to actually dedicate the attention. This was
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  Speaker 2: kind of perfect if you were you know, younger, or
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  Speaker 2: you know, someone was rolling up and you were just like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, this is gonna be the rest of my afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything else to worry about. But we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna do you the service of watching and
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  Speaker 2: analyzing this long, long documentary that you might have the
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  Speaker 2: time to watch in its entirety, and we're gonna give
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  Speaker 2: you all of the most important takeaways from it. So
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  Speaker 2: let's plot the course for Money Masters. This again, it's
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  Speaker 2: a three and a half hour documentary. It covers so
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  Speaker 2: much different area. I got to just pick the top ten,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, in this series, we might not always do
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  Speaker 2: like the top ten. Sometimes it'll just be three or
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  Speaker 2: four talking points introducing the documentary. This one's a heavy hitter.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of came out and took like a big
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  Speaker 2: old bite, like straight out of this piece of steak.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the top ten claims made by Money Masters.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go through all of them. The first
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  Speaker 2: one was that private central banks control world economies, and
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  Speaker 2: they kind of highlight the Federal Reserve as one of
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  Speaker 2: these examples. But it makes this claim. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the first thing that blew my mind when I
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  Speaker 2: saw Money Masters or late nineties, early two thousands, that
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  Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve is neither federal nor necessarily a reserve
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  Speaker 2: and it's named intentionally to sound like it's this official
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  Speaker 2: government entity while it's in reality a private financial sort
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  Speaker 2: of corporation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they point out in the film that it's
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  Speaker 3: just like FedEx, it's just in name alone, and it's
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  Speaker 3: not in the government blue pages for like you said,
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  Speaker 3: this is the nineties, is not where you can just
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  Speaker 3: google it, but it was in the blue not in
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  Speaker 3: the blue pages, not in the governmental and I think
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  Speaker 3: this really put it on the map in mainstream of
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  Speaker 3: Federal Reserve not being a federal agency.
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  Speaker 2: And I've read this before in books and everything, but
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  Speaker 2: really this documentary made that that particular claim so accessible,
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  Speaker 2: and that was one of the first things was like
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  Speaker 2: that can't be true. That just sounds like some conspiracy nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: But it checked out, and that leads into all these
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  Speaker 2: other ones were all similar in how big of an
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  Speaker 2: impact they made when I first heard all of these.
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  Speaker 2: The next one is one of the claims the movie
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  Speaker 2: makes that the Federal Reserve is unconstitutional and that therefore
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  Speaker 2: it's some sort of like an illegal entity. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how I feel about that. In particular, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a bold claim. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: all the legales. I'm sure that it's come up in
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  Speaker 2: court before, but that's a claim made by this particular documentary.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds good, but like you said, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: back it up going through unless some of that actually
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  Speaker 3: has a knowledge. And if someone's listening, maybe you have
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  Speaker 3: the knowledge let us know. But from my standpoint too,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm kind of like, yeah, sounds good,
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  Speaker 3: I don't actually know if that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I'm also a believer of living in the
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  Speaker 2: reality that we've actually got and not the one that's
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  Speaker 2: on like some theoretical sort of like academic paper. So
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  Speaker 2: the reality that we're sharing at this moment, as far
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  Speaker 2: as I know the Federal Reserve is real and it
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been taken down by a constitutionalist, so de facto,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's here to stay regardless.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: The next claim is that debt based money systems are
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  Speaker 2: typically always enslave the public. This one's hard to argue against.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, Potato patato on, like, what do you
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  Speaker 2: consider enslavement? I don't know if I would consider me
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  Speaker 2: or you enslaved entirely. I mean, yeah, like slaves to
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  Speaker 2: the dollar, but it's a pretty charged word in order
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  Speaker 2: to make that kind of a claim. And money he
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  Speaker 2: has this like abstract concept. But I mean this, this
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  Speaker 2: is where the conspiracy angle really hits hard. And I
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  Speaker 2: know I was vibing with this particular claim when I
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  Speaker 2: first saw, like hell, yeah, man, we're all slaves to
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  Speaker 2: this system.
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  Speaker 3: Now, being older seeing it, I think I have a
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  Speaker 3: different perspective. But yeah, being in you know, eighteen nineteen,
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  Speaker 3: because I saw it like in the two thousands, nine,
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  Speaker 3: the nineties, but like about eighteen ninety watching this and
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  Speaker 3: being like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like the dogs now?
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  Speaker 3: Man like, and I could see where they come from
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  Speaker 3: with that aspect of like, yeah, we have to make
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  Speaker 3: money and we can only get a certain amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: But then it gets it's tough because we kind of
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  Speaker 3: enslave ourselves, right because we could figure out our own
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  Speaker 3: way to make money and we don't have to be
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  Speaker 3: a slave. But I'm like loose on it, right, Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the middle, right there. I get it, I
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  Speaker 3: get the point you're driving home. I just don't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: see it as that way anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Another claim is that bankers fund war for profit, and
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  Speaker 2: they get They make a very very specific claim in
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  Speaker 2: this one. They basically say that the raw Child family
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  Speaker 2: funded both sides in the Napoleonic Wars, and that this
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  Speaker 2: is one of just many examples, and that war is
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  Speaker 2: always profitable for bankers in some capacity. So we'll get
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  Speaker 2: we'll do a slightly deeper dive on that particular claim,
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  Speaker 2: but this overall concept that wars create money for bankers,
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  Speaker 2: that does seem like it's held true for me over
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  Speaker 2: my just personal observation over the last few decades, So
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  Speaker 2: that one really hit home.
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  Speaker 3: And if you just go through film and TV throughout
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  Speaker 3: the years, Game of Thrones is a perfect example where
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  Speaker 3: you're seeing everybody fight for the crown, and at the
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  Speaker 3: same time there's a banker that's like, hey, I'll give
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  Speaker 3: you this side this money and this side this money,
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  Speaker 3: because it's kind of obvious that like someone's going to
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  Speaker 3: profit off of it.
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  Speaker 2: Another. This is one of the biggest claims too, is
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  Speaker 2: that pretty much all of the main presidents that opposed
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  Speaker 2: these banking elites found up on the wrong side of
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  Speaker 2: a gun. At some point. They mentioned JFK, they mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson, they mentioned Abraham Lincoln, and that all three
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  Speaker 2: of those guys were publicly pushing against the banking system
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  Speaker 2: and we're essentially trying to convert us back over to
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  Speaker 2: some sort of non fiat currency examples, And that they
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  Speaker 2: all got taken out right around the times in which
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  Speaker 2: they would have gotten some traction on some of these things.
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  Speaker 4: That's where they lose me a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Like I do think there's conspiracies within maybe their deaths,
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  Speaker 3: but I think also it's kind of there's no actual
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  Speaker 3: proof that they were going to do this. It's all
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  Speaker 3: like some imaginary thing like you, behind the scenes that
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  Speaker 3: nobody really knows about.
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  Speaker 4: That only the guy that knew, the guy that knew
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  Speaker 4: the guy that he was about to do this.
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  Speaker 2: It's nearly impossible to prove intent. I mean even someone
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  Speaker 2: might lie to themselves about why they're doing something, so
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  Speaker 2: it's really hard to really point that out. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the examples JFK Right, there's a very specific one
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  Speaker 2: that he had this executive order one eleven eleven zero,
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  Speaker 2: and this was supposed to change the way that we
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  Speaker 2: acted with silver and silver certificates. Although from everything I
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  Speaker 2: could look into, this wouldn't have been like a make
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  Speaker 2: it or break it. This wouldn't have ended the Federal
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  Speaker 2: Reserve or global banking or fractional it wouldn't ended any
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  Speaker 2: of that. It was very like tiny little footne into
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  Speaker 2: something where they were just trying to recapture silver for
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  Speaker 2: industrial means versus monetary. So that particular one felt a
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  Speaker 2: little bit loose, But again it's in conspiracy classic fashion,
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  Speaker 2: these grandiose claims that every living president that has ever
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  Speaker 2: gone up against the bankers has been killed by the bankers.
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  Speaker 2: Like that whole premise is what makes me like conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 2: But you get older and you've heard these claims over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, you kind of realize that's part of
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  Speaker 2: the storytelling. Aspect, and yeah, they don't drop. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the proof we've got that shows all this is true.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't prove a negative, right, like you can't
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  Speaker 3: prove a negative. So that's why those theories go like wildfires.
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  Speaker 2: Another one was that the Great Depression was engineered. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the other claims in this one. I've heard
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  Speaker 2: this one a lot too, that the nineteen twenty nine
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  Speaker 2: crash in America was essentially triggered in order to consolidate wealth.
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  Speaker 2: Now again, I prefer to live in the world of
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  Speaker 2: reality instead of academics, and like you know, sort of
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  Speaker 2: just like theories, that's kind of what happened, right, The
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  Speaker 2: Great Depression did end up consolidating wealth. In fact, every
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  Speaker 2: major global or even national tragedy tends to consolidate wealth.
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  Speaker 2: Even the last like big event from twenty nineteen to
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two consolidated wealth. And you see the amount
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  Speaker 2: of money that's being controlled in the assets by the
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  Speaker 2: most rich. It just it goes up after these huge tragedies.
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  Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to debate even if I
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  Speaker 2: had a point to debate this that the Great Depression
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  Speaker 2: was engineered. Why wouldn't it if you were a banker,
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  Speaker 2: and you had the resources, and you knew that this
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  Speaker 2: was a move that would improve your standings. It would
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  Speaker 2: almost be fiscally irresponsible of you not to engineer a
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  Speaker 2: great depression.
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  Speaker 4: It's impossible to argue against.
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  Speaker 3: Like I see it the same with the crash in
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  Speaker 3: the eighties, the two thousand and eight, Like that it
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  Speaker 3: seems to be a theme that, hey, we kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of made a couple of mistakes, let's adjust and.
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  Speaker 3: If some other people have to lose their wealth and
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  Speaker 3: lose money and land, so be it, so we can
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  Speaker 3: prosper in the end. That it seems like a human theme,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's not like something far fetched.
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  Speaker 2: This one is one that I immediately blew my mind,
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  Speaker 2: and I one hundred percent believe this one, and I
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  Speaker 2: would love to hear if anyone's got an alternate sort
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  Speaker 2: of view on this one. But that inflation is just
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  Speaker 2: a hidden tax, and man like, once you understand how
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: that particular thing works, one of the ways that it
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  Speaker 2: kind of gets describing this movie and elsewhere is that
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  Speaker 2: if you go on to you know, like a payroad,
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  Speaker 2: for example, you go on an expressway, like at that
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  Speaker 2: moment you're deciding I want to go faster, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to use Option A instead of Option B, and
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  Speaker 2: Option A costs whatever seven bucks or two bucks depend
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  Speaker 2: on where you're going and that you're consciously making that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're actively getting taxed based on the thing that
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  Speaker 2: you want to do with that moment. Or if you
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  Speaker 2: go and decide to buy gas, you're getting taxed that moment.
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  Speaker 2: If you buy a pack of cigarettes, you're getting taxed
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  Speaker 2: at that moment. Inflation is a way to still add
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  Speaker 2: tax to people, but do it in such a slow,
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  Speaker 2: ubiquitous way that you don't get to opt in for.
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  Speaker 2: It's this like hidden tax that you don't have a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of say over, and it'll just so gradually
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  Speaker 2: become part of everything you buy. So there's no way
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  Speaker 2: to opt out of inflation in the same way that
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  Speaker 2: there is that I just won't get gas. I just
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  Speaker 2: won't buy a pack of cigarettes. I just won't use
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  Speaker 2: that expressway.
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  Speaker 3: No, I absolutely agree with you because we see an
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  Speaker 3: example of that after the twenty twenty stuff, and everybody
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  Speaker 3: got checks, and I was like, yeah, this is great
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  Speaker 3: that we got checks, But you do realize that everything
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  Speaker 3: will become more expensive because they always get their money back.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's like a way of taxing where they
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  Speaker 3: don't know, and they've even taken a step further where
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  Speaker 3: they now call it shrink flation, where now it's less
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  Speaker 3: like you used to buy ten bucks for eight ounces
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  Speaker 3: of something.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's ten bucks.
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  Speaker 3: For four half ounces or six ounces, so on and
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  Speaker 3: so forth.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine if there was a sequel to or like a
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  Speaker 2: reshoot of money Masters that took all of that into account,
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  Speaker 2: like the price of eggs in twenty twenty five versus
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: the price of eggs in like nineteen ninety five when
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: this movie came out, he would have been able to
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  Speaker 2: drive this one.
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  Speaker 4: All the way home, I think easily.
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  Speaker 2: Number eight was that alternative economic systems have been suppressed.
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  Speaker 2: And this is kind of goes directly up against the
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: different presidents that got assassinated. So the examples was that
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  Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln tried to issue greenbacks, he gets taken out.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy tries to issue this executive order eleven eleven zero,
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  Speaker 2: and supposedly he gets taken out. Although both of those
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: things were I think originally temporary, there were stop gaps
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  Speaker 2: for something else that was currently happening. Even for Lincoln's greenbacks.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of war related. So neither of these
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  Speaker 2: felt like they would have been permanent solutions to the
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  Speaker 2: Federal Reserve or to these central banks that we've got today.
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  Speaker 2: But it does make sense that any alternate system would
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  Speaker 2: be suppressed. Again, ninety five, they didn't know about bitcoin
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  Speaker 2: and bitcoin. Yeah, I think that a lot of countries
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  Speaker 2: seem like they've given up trying to suppress it now
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  Speaker 2: they're all in. Now, they've all got strategic reserves. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this one does this statement still
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  Speaker 2: hold true that all other economic systems are going to
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  Speaker 2: be suppressed, because bitcoin seems to disprove that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it only counts for a financial system
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't work for people that are already making the money, right,
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  Speaker 3: the people that already have difference, Like they're like, yeah, cool, now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we got our bitcoin. No, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is the new thing. I got it all right.
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  Speaker 2: The last two are heavy hitters. So the next last one,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I kind of say one of the best for last.
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  Speaker 2: But money Masters in particular made a whole general of
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  Speaker 2: people familiar with this last name Rothschild or the red Shield,
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  Speaker 2: and that one of the claims is made is that
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  Speaker 2: they were one of these families that were hidden financial
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  Speaker 2: controllers of the entire world for the last few generations,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: if not a couple centuries, and in particular that they
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: ran both sides of that Napoleonic War, and that was
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: how big they were, is they could determine whether or
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: not you won or lost the war based on whether
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: or not they were going to loan you money. We'll
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: get into that particular claim, but this is I think
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the first time that I ever heard the name Rothschild
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and they dropped so many of those quotes. One of
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: them is something like I care not who issues the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: country's laws. It's only like who gets to issue the currency.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't have the exact quote in front of me,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but it is like one of the most timeless quotes
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: in all conspiracy that I've heard.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: You got it pretty close, and you are absolutely right
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: to me in this. Like I said earlier about the
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Federal Reserve bringing into the mainstream, same thing with the Rothschilds.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: This particular document is very important because them bringing up
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the roth challenge, which has connected like if it was
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: like a coaching tree, like an NFL they call it
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a coaching tree when you have like, oh, this coach,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: and now he has ten other guys that became head
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: coaches from him. This documentary probably has sprouted so many
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: documentaries because and books because the roth Childs. After this documentary,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I've seen so many things on the roth Childs, but
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: this was what I first was introduced to them.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And then the final note that this documentary puts forth
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: as sort of a solution, and the solution that Bill
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: still mentioned was that a gold backed currency is really
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the only solution, and that if we were to just
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: go back to some sort of a gold standard, it
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: would solve most of the problems mentioned. I'm not really
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: convinced on that either way, again because I'm not educated
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: enough to really understand it. But it just seems like
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the world that we live in is far too complicated
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: for anything that simple to ever really be true.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Like it's one of those things that I used to
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: believe in as a young adult, but now I don't
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: know how you change it from all these systems, from
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: what we work now, Like it just seems like it
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: would be very very bad if it'd be like a
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: great depression again, to be like maybe it would pick
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: back up, but I don't know there's any guarantee of
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it working.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: It sounds really good and I like the idea of it,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: but how do you implement it?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Right? I mean? And they almost make a case in
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Money Masters that the tally sticks was even a better supply.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: But I don't know about you. I want to roll
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: up to the bank with a whole bunch of broken
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: pieces of wood and you know one of them was
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: left out in the rain or like you dropped one,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and how does it match up with the other side
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: of the TALLI stick? And so it does seem And
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I hope I'm not just out of myself as an
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: absolute shill, But like this whole Fiat fractional reserve thing
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: has some kind of usefulness to the like us slaves, right.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It obviously benefits the elite like banking class, but it
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: is just beyond convenient in a practicality sense. I don't
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: want to just be carrying actual gold everywhere with me.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Oh and then nowadays, like I said, the system, how
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it works, We're you get in shape, I'm gonna get
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: some Dourrido's man, how much what is that like save
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: some gold off for you?
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I just don't think it works in the current state
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: of how we live. I like the idea.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: It's just one of those conspiratorial like wish lists that
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: like we fantasize about, but nobody actually has come up
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: with a way to actually implement it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So we could keep going on, I had to limit
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it somewhere, so we'll stop that at ten. They go
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: into all these different financial sort of philosophies throughout this documentary.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: It's well worth the watch if you want to get
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: up the speed on them. All right, this is time
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: for the hidden treasure and overboard moments. We'll figure out
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the names as we go. Here's got to have some
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: sort of a nautical theme, and I think that these
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: ones do kind of fit because even to myself, if
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking when I'm watching a documentary and they make
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a huge claim where they obviously make a huge leap
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: of logic for the sake of storytelling, I even think
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: to myself, like the kind of went a little overboard.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They jumped the shark a little bit, So the nautical
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: theme is already on point. So the hidden treasure of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: this one is really I can't think of a single
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: other documentary that'll give you this amount of knowledge about
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: financial systems. Even if it's almost four hours long. Even
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: though it's that long, it's basically the perfect one stop
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: shop to get all of that plus that conspiratorial tone.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Without that conspiratorial tone, this would be one of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: more boring documentaries you could ever suggest someone watch. Hey,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: here's a four hour movie about financial systems that doesn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: hit as much as like, here's a four hour documentary
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: about the secret banking elites that are controlling your life
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: that has that extra flare to it that makes you
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: want to watch it. So it's either this or you
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: got to read the Creature from Jacko Island and Money
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Masters is away faster and less painful experience. I suggest
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you do both. I've done both. But that's really the highlight,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: that's the hidden treasure of this of this documentary for me,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is that nothing else comes close to matching this amount
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of information.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And the way that he the information not may not
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: be like all perfect. There's stuff that we could debate,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: but yes, a ton of it is accurate. It's it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: on point. It's just that maybe they're suggestions of things
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: that have happened. Yes it's been said, but then how
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: is it interpreted? What roth Child's really meant by that,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and they may have control. There's things debatable, but there's
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: so much information about central banking and the Federal Reserve
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and how it actually works, the history of currency, which
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: is interesting. Like you brought the tally sticks like things
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that were traded beyond. So it gives you a feel
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: of where we've come from to where we are now.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And I remember having to learn about tally sticks in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: school way way back when, but it was boring. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: didn't really, it didn't the same way that it was
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: being presented here. And it's kind of crazy because then
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it made me go back and like, name, maybe if
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I should have paid Probably not, though, like the class
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: was just boring anyways, the teacher probably didn't care. Bill
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: still cares about this stuff. You won't find someone else.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: He's still doing podcasts right now in twenty twenty five
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: talking about banking fraud and like financial sector stuff. So
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you will not find another documentary from this particular point
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of view from someone that cares as much as Bill's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: still about this topic.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And like you said, it gives it the spice where
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the elites are enslaving you with currency.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: It gives you that feel.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: That's what keeps you going to watch it, and the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: information is thorough like it's not like he didn't go
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: through the information and like miss stuff. Again, there's debatable points,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: but there is so much information even you could take
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: bits and pieces and use it with your own life,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or your own financial system
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: or what you want to build. But it's very good
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: example of how banking works.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: The next section is the deep dive. This is we're
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: gonna take one of the major claims from the movie
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and just figure out is this real or not. This
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: is one of the mind blowing claims, and we'll try
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and do this for all these for money Masters. We
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: could have picked, like you know, ten or twenty of
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: these things, but I'm gonna laser focus on one in particular,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and this is the claim that the Rosschilds financed both
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: sides of the Napoleonic Wars, that they financed both brand
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and Britain in order to basically make profit no matter
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: who won or lost the war, kind of putting their
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: eggs in both of those baskets. And one of the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: things that makes it harder to kind of accept is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that the Napoleonic Wars start in eighteen oh three, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they last until like eighteen fifteen. The ross Childs didn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: even have their Paris bank set up until eighteen eleven,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: so this is like seven or eight years into the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Wars they don't even have that bank set up. And
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: essentially in eighteen oh five is when Napoleon was at
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: his peak. Jacob or James Rothschild he was only eleven
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: years old at that time, and even when Napoleon was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: at his peak, he was like thirteen or fourteen. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know how closely that particular branch of the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Rothschild family had their involvement. It seems that, according to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Rockefeller accepted, you know, history lessons, that Napoleon got a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: lot of his money just from local finances. He didn't
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: necessarily have to reach out to the Rothschilds. Now, the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Rothschild's backing Britain is absolutely documented. Fact. It's so odd
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that there's a plethora of evidence that shows, yeah, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely funded Britain, but almost nothing compared to them funding France,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: especially when that arm of the family was like eleven
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: or thirteen years old.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean thirteen year olds. I mean you could
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: throw their money around. Look at these sweet sixteen MTV things, right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I want to believe this one. And if anyone has
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: more information about the Rothschilds, specifically funding Napoleon during the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Poleonic Wars, post them of the comments and email them
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or we'll have a number that you can call in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. I want to believe that. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it's one of those claims that I just kind of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: accepted as gospel when I watched this and believed it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: for the last two decades, and then when I actually
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: looked into this one particular claim, like Okay, what was
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: how much? What date was the check cut? Like what
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: were all the different terms of this, it kind of
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: gets a little bit murky and it turns into the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: trust Nebro sources. So I would say that that's sort
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of the uh, you know that's in the deep dive.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: This is kind of what falls flat a little bit agreed,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: all right, Ripples and Waves or this is going to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: basically be like the historical and the cultural impact of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: these different documentaries, And like you mentioned, we wouldn't have
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: had a lot of other mentions about the red Shield
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: family if this one hadn't popularized it first to a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: whole different generation. This was also a movie that was
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: released right as the Internet was starting to get somewhat popular.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: There were server rooms, there were people that were digitizing
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: vhs and DVDs and uploading them in the late nineties
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to early two thousands. So this one kind of found
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: itself just in that big group of weird torrents of
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you know, next to the whole conspider man, you might
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: get a money masters who knows, and thank God for
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the people that were sneaking into those places. But it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was this unique moment in time where you could have
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: this on VHS and DVD and have downloaded on the Internet,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and none of those would have been out of the ordinary.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: So it appealed to three completely different demographics. Right, Grandpa's
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: not loading up napster LimeWire and downloading documentaries, but he
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: might have come across this at the pawnshop or wherever
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the hell you got this on vhs.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And like you said, it kind of bring back the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Fed with the Jecko, the creature of Jacko Aile. But
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: it also sparked the rom Paul Revolution kind of like
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the base of it, right, his was and the Fed
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: and central bankers and the Federal Reserve.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Being the main enemy of it not being an entity.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: So in pop culture, I'm not saying that they caused it,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: but I feel like a lot of the people that
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: were in that Ron Paul revolution really based a lot
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: of their stuff on these principles, whether they saw this
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: documentary or something that was inspired of it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And I would say that without this movie, you don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: get Zeitgeist, or at least if you go and watch Zeitgeist,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: which was the two thousands generations version of one of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: these kind of movies. So I guess, you know, Bill
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: still Walks, so that Zeitgeist could run in a way.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Zeitgeist is money mastered with good editing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So let's do like a final verdict here, sink or swim?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Does the documentary hold water? And the way that we're
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: gonna do this, we got three different levels we can
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: rate one of these documentaries. There's gonna be like the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: surface level, this is just very shallow, maybe just skims
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the surface a little bit. Then there's deep dive, which
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: means you know, it gets into it. This is like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you should probably watch it. Maybe you can just listen
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to us talking about it. And then, for lack of
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a better rating system, I'm gonna say, like, twenty thousand
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: leagues is as deep as you can possibly go. So
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I want to hear what your rating is between those
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: three on Money Masters.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Mine is twenty thousand leagues because of the information that
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: it gets, it's the highest rating. It's it's off the walls,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: off the charts, like you can use this documentary to
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: go all types of places roth Child's to JFK, to
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: what happened with Lincoln to what the Federal Reserve. It's
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: like a bunch of conspiracies caked into one giant film.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And that's how I get the only my only critique
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: of the film is the product value.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: But you could tell Bill Steele was.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Doing it all on his own in nineteen ninth, like
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: what ninety four ninety five, there's not a lot of technology.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Doing it by yourself. That probably costs a pretty penny.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But as far as the information, it goes deep, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: like I said, it's just a counterpag powder keg of information.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. I give this
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: one the twenty thousand leagues. I was a little conflicted
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: just because there are some major major claims that are
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: made without a lot of backup, But at the same time,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the amount of real estate that this particular documentary covers,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: it would have been an eighty hour documentary if every
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: single claim was like and here's all the research that
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: kind of backs that up. Although if Bill still had
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: done that, maybe he would have cut or editorialized some
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: of this stuff in or out, because now it's it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: kind of funny, like, for example, I think in this
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: documentary they erroneously mention it as Jacob Child in Paris,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: but really that was his middle name, and he kind
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of went by James, not Jacob, and Jacob is another
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: person that lived later on in life. But you see
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that particular claim and the claim about the Napoleonic Wars
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: being funded restated in so many other conspiracy theories and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: documentaries and music and all over the place. So you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: can almost pinpoint that it was either this documentary, it
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: was money masters that paved the way for all those
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: things to come, or that they were at least all
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: reading from the same source material. So for that reason alone, though,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is definitely twenty thousand leagues. It's why
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: we picked this one as number one. It's a hard hitter.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: It's one that everyone should probably watch, although we've just
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: given you a pretty good summary of the whole movie.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you could just listen to us and then
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: just tell your friends like, yeah, I've seen it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: On the horizon. Next, I think that we're gonna focus
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: on mostly conspiracy theory documentaries for the first few episodes,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: maybe eight, maybe ten, who knows, But we'll stay in
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: our wheelhouse, and then we're gonna get into some very
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: other topics sports, music, social kind of things. But I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was thinking, we've got a list. We'll cover Zeitgeist, will
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: cover Loose Change. We're gonna cover a Noble Lie America,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Freedom the Fascism by Aaron Russo. You mentioned one called
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: All for Floyd, So we'll do some more recent ones.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go all over the place, and then as
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: we start getting more and more people paying attention watching,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: we'll start doing some live streams and get some direct
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: feedback and maybe suggestions on what documentaries to watch next.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: No, definitely, because I think it's good to start with
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the pillars, right, like Money Masters, Loose Change, like everything
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: that you named. Those are like the foundation of the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: spiratorial documentary section.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said in the intro, everyone
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: wants to ask what our favorite conspiracy theories are, just
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: because we've been into this for so long, but no
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: one really asks what were the documentaries that you saw
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: when you're growing up that made you want to watch
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories? Period? And money Masters is one of those
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: heavy hitters. If you remove me seeing money Masters in
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the late nineties or early two thousands, I might be
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: like a normal, functioning adult out in the real world
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: right now, like my life would have been on a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: completely different trajectory. So I blame money Masters for that,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: but I also thank it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it because I could also have blue
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: hair and the screaming that everybody's a Nazi, So.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you guys on the next Under
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the docks peace Peace, funny tune, But.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Couldn't they erase all the shots?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: They connect the dog sets under the.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Docks, under the dogs, yell under the dogs, Under the dogs.