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F1 2025 British GP Recap - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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get laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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the boys welcome back to banter with the boys
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fast laps things are happening off camera as
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always up here but don't worry the mics are always
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running um anyway You guys knew that, right?
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Yeah. Oh, God. All right. Let's just move on
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then. Sweet. Awesome. I got that out of the way.
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Housekeeping stuff. That was it. Kev's here behind
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the cameras. Hi, Kev. We had to introduce him
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last, so I figured we'll introduce him first
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this time. Mike? Wow, way to throw him for a
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twister. Look at him. Keep him guessing. Yep,
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every week. Hi, I'm back. Hello. Mike's back.
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He's wearing an Aston hat this week. I'm wearing
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my Aston hat. Of course I'm wearing my Aston
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hat. Big Lance Stroll fan. Yeah, obviously. Oh,
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man, I couldn't find the Aston Marty hat. I was
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going to wear that one. Is that just a team hat
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or is that a driver hat? No, it's a hat that
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he made me. No, I'm saying that one. Oh, this
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one? This is just a team hat. No, okay. Just
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a team hat. Just a team hat. It's okay. It's
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okay. It's good. Joe, you dialing your mom? Oh,
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he's calling her right now. Hello, 911? Oh. They're
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being mean to me again. It happens every week.
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The 911 operator, Joe, you can't keep calling
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us. You're a little late this week with the call.
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All right, anyway, that landed. You're wearing
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the warm chat this week. It took like 20 seconds.
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You guys were talking, so for 20 seconds I was
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looking at my phone as if it takes me that long
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to tell about it. I was saying, like, what is
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he doing? That should make us feel good. That's
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how long it took him to contemplate whether he
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should do it or not. Yeah. So, unfortunately,
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you still landed on the wrong answer. Dumb. Yeah,
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it was. No, you're right. It was dumb. It was
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100%. Anyway, welcome, Joe. Thanks. I'm glad
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to be here. It was a good race. It was a great
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race. Wild race. A lot of interesting stuff.
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You know, Carlos Sainz winning the race. A lot
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of weird things happening. A lot of weird things
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happening. Did we watch the same race? Not the
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same one. Him being knighted at the end of the
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race. We really didn't watch the same race. It
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was wild. Carlos Sainz' dad just punched it.
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NBS in the face? That's what we meant by signs.
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It was actually Carlos Sainz Sr. driving the
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car. Oh, Carlos Sainz Sr. won the race. That
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makes more sense to me, actually. Anyway, nonsense
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is over. Kev, let's head right into our British
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recap. And we're live! That was great. Joe, I
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just... Oh, God. All right. Anyway, where are
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we at here? I love Silverstone. I love this race.
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It's such a fun race. It is a really fun track.
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I like it a lot. It never fails to. I mean, I
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feel like the percentage for safety cars, like
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60%, like just year by year. It's just super
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high. Doesn't surprise me. The wet always helps
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make it. George Russell wouldn't be on the podium.
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He finished, though. He hasn't finished two of
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the last three. That's true. Before this one.
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And that's why I didn't put him on the podium.
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But he still didn't do it. I put him on my podium,
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and that was just to keep the British dream alive.
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I could have, I guess, put Bearman on the podium.
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Hey, you never know. He's also, I mean, he has
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now finished one, but beforehand he hadn't finished
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an F1 race at Great Britain. Can he just not
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carry the torch from Lewis? Is he going to be
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a Mercedes driver in 2026? Oh, Russell? Russell.
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Russell. I think, come on, man. There's no way
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he's not driving for Mercedes next year. There's
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just no way. Well, Mercedes is going to get Verstappen,
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and then Red Bull is going to steal Piastri from
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McLaren. Yep. Because Piastri wants to go to
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Red Bull right now, for sure. Red Bull's definitely
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the place to be. Wouldn't it be crazy if we do
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get three straight seasons or something of just
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McLaren? I don't want three straight seasons
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of McLaren dominance, but at least three straight
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seasons of... Hold on. Calm down, Joel. Let me
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finish the thought. I have the floor. No, sure.
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Go ahead. Dang it. Now I can't remember the thought.
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I'll let you finish. Just great battles between
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Piastri and Norris. If it's going to be like
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this... as far as racing for the WDC for the
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next couple of years. I mean, I guess sign me
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up, but for, you know. Obviously, I'm a McLaren
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fan. I love that they're having a Dominus arc
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right now. But I do want to see them fighting
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other teams. Like, I don't love the Max Verstappen
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effect, no matter who's getting hit with it.
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It is nice, at least, that it's not a single
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person. It is two people. It's not, okay. It's
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two people, not just a single person. McLaren
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weren't bad at the start of last season. bad
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not so not straight seasons of dominance right
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so far this year i'm saying if we were to see
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now like the next three years i don't think so
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next year's it's like a toss -up i a lot of people
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think mclaren are going to come onto the gate
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swinging i hope they do i doubt it's going to
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be with the level of dominance they're having
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now though i feel like they put so much into
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this i'm worried they put so much into this year's
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car that next year's car might be a tiny bit
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lacking but we'll see yeah yeah we'll see Just
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like Kik Salver probably will come out swinging
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next year, right? I mean, Audi. I mean, Kik won't,
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yeah. McLaren, anyway. Okay, so let's do the
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reverse of what we've been doing. So might as
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well just stay on McLaren, pure dominance from
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McLaren. I mean. I mean, remember that rant I
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had? Was it? It was last week. We were all here
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for it. Copy and paste podcast to podcast. They
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were in a league of their own. Truly, no one
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was racing them the entire time. They had Max
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to deal with at the start, but once he spun,
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it was over. It was just a McLaren race. At one
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point, in fact, it wasn't even a McLaren race.
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It was a Piastri race, and then it was a Norris
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race, and that was pretty much it. They didn't
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even get next to each other to really fight that
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much. And then, yeah, they had, I think at the
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end of the race, like a 20 -second gap maybe.
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I thought it was like 28 seconds. It was a healthy
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chunk. It was a healthy chunk. It was a Max Verstappen
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chunk. I mean, okay. We have some conversation
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to have about some of the drivers, our podium
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more or less. So I'll just. We'll talk about
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it. Norris' first home win. An amazing feat.
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Super, super height. Driving an almost flawless
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race. Cars going nuts. I honestly think that
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the one issue for his race is that he had a bad
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pit stop, but that was pretty much it. I don't
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think he went off once. I think he was pretty
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stable the entire time. Piastri, unfortunately.
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I when it first happened, I think I was defending
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him a little more after sleeping on it, watching
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it a few more times. I definitely think he was
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probably in the wrong there. Not even probably.
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I definitely think he was in the wrong there.
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That was pretty dangerous. Not just seeing Max
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kind of like jump forward him, but also seeing
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Nico get up close to him, too. Like that was
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it was dangerous. It was wet. Like no one could
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see in front of them. So a car all of a sudden
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being there, it was it was bad for him, unfortunately.
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And it cost him the win. This is his third year.
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He will learn. I understand why he's upset because,
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like he said, he did the same thing, just it
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was under different conditions. And I think the
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commentator said at one point, if it was in the
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dry, it probably wouldn't have been a penalty.
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I think I asked Mike this. I'd love to hear your
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take. Do you think it was too severe, the penalty
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that he got? 10 seconds? And two penalty points
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on his license. Yeah, honestly, I do. I think
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10 seconds is a little much for that. I don't
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know. It's tough because Max, when he restarts,
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is so disgustingly good at it that it feels illegal,
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but I feel like he does such a good job that
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it's just not. So I feel like Oscar tried, and
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it just didn't work out. Do I have something
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on my face? No, you're good. Oh, okay. I feel
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like you looked at me weird. No, I just moved
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away from it. Oh, okay. All right, cool. Did
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I answer the question? No, yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, you basically said you only deserved it.
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Immediately, I think it was a little too harsh.
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We made the comparison of last year, China, Stroll
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hitting Danny from the rear and getting the exact
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same penalty, 10 seconds, two penalty points.
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No one hit each other, but it was still a very
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dangerous move. The penalty points seem a little
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wild to me. Because, yes, it was a dangerous
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move, but you didn't hit anyone. A collision
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was not caused. A 10 -second penalty I think
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I can probably be more okay with. But at the
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same time, I also would have been okay with a
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5 -second. So maybe they just defaulted to what
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happens when you make an infringement under safety
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car. And you know what? Can't really be angry
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at that, I guess. Are you going to say something?
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Yeah. What's interesting is that I have been
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seeing a lot of F1 fans, and even I've seen some
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comments coming out from drivers and team principals
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and stuff like that talking about the penalty.
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And the general echo that I've been hearing is
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everyone saying it was too harsh. Everyone has
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been like, oh, this was bad. He shouldn't have
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taken 10 seconds. Maybe five seconds would have
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been a more suitable penalty. He should have
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gotten a penalty for what he did, but 10 seconds
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felt a little severe. something that we're going
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over it's like i feel like of all the people
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who are like like you know upset or happy that
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you know oscar got the penalty it really only
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affected lando and oscar those are the only two
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who had any effect on sure and i feel like mclaren
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in a way we're kind of happy that he got 10 seconds
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and not five because if he got a five second
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penalty chance for more when they came out uh
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when they both had finished their pits they were
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five point something seconds away from each other.
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If it was a five -second penalty, they would
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have been tenths from each other. And we know
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that Oscar was mad. He was super mad. He was
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driving angry, and Lando wants to win this race
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more than anything. Those drivers would have
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been driving out of their mind, doing whatever
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they could to win that race, and I think that
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that is the breeding ground for a crash to happen.
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And Hulkenberg could have won. And Hulkenberg
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could have won! Okay, that's beside the point.
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But I feel like McLaren... is taking a sigh of
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relief. Thank God they didn't get to fight each
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other. Because if they did, there was a good
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chance that I think they might have even have
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crashed. This is where the season is going. And
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it's going to be a battle between these two the
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whole way. Max probably won't have a chance to
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catch them at this point, especially with where
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the car's at. So this could just be two drivers
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on the same team battling it out for the championship.
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It would still be a great... Great race. Yeah.
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Towards the end. Jeez. Absolutely. Yeah. I was
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just going to echo the same thing pretty much.
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Yeah. Just for the rest of the season. I mean,
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I don't think that their form is going to hold
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up to the rest of the season. I think, like,
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every team, every year, someone else is going
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to find a way to get pretty close to the top.
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I mean, besides 23. 23 was just a Red Bull dominance
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the entire year. I don't think McLaren's going
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to hold. I think McLaren's going to be dominant
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the entire year, but I don't think they're going
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to be this dominant. I think someone's going
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to catch up eventually. They'll just probably
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take a second. I also think that this. I mean,
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Ferrari's getting better and better, right? I
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think it's probably Ferrari. Ferrari more than
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Mercedes. Mercedes seemed to be losing a little
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bit of form, but who knows? I do think that also
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the issue of them worried about them colliding,
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I think they're more concerned about it in this
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scenario where it was just how heightened everything
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was. Oscar was... The most upset we've ever seen
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him. I've never seen Oscar Emote this much. And
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this is Lando's home race. Lando has said this
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is his dream as an F1 driver is to win this race.
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Just a lot of energy. Those two colliding against
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each other is just a recipe for disaster. It
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could be a thunderstorm. Any other track, they're
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free to race. I'm not as concerned about them
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crashing. They're going to keep it clean. They're
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going to do their best. I'm less concerned. This
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scenario, I would be more concerned if I were
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McLaren. What about Oscar's outlandish request
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at the end of the race? Requesting that they
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swap spots and kind of put the team in a spot
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by being like, oh, well, if you think it wasn't
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right, then you should swap places. I don't know.
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That's a pretty wild thing to say to me. For
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me. Yeah, I do not. But he said it with emotion.
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He was upset in the moment. He's very clearly
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upset. So you would think it's that, but I wonder
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if they have a conversation with him about...
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I don't know. I feel like they should. No, I
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feel like they should. I mean, if it were my
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decision, I'd be like, no, that open communication
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asking. I think that's fine. I think any driver
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should be in their right to ask if that's going
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to happen. I think it's up to the team, obviously,
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and I think the team made the right decision.
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No, we're not going to swap you. Unfortunately,
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we're not going to tell you right now because
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it'll piss you off more, but it was your fault
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that you put yourself in this position. We're
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not going to take Lando's home win away from
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him, even if it was. I don't know, like Canada.
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We're not going to take his win away from him.
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This is the position that you're in because of
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the actions that were made. I understand you're
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upset, but no, we're not going to do team orders
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just like we wouldn't do team orders normally
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anyway. But I don't fault him for asking. He's
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driving an F1 car at the moment. He was leading
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the race and probably would have won the race
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if that didn't happen. I mean, good chance you
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would have. I do not blame him one bit for asking.
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I think he's probably cooled down by now. I mean,
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it's been two days. For sure. I'm hoping he reflects
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on that and just gets better and better, you
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know? I mean, I wish I talked to him. You game
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with him. I wish I gamed with him. I wish. No,
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he does. He does. He's being modest. All right.
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Kick Sauber. I mean, just go for it. This is
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my time to pop off. I'm so stoked. I am beyond
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excited. I spent, like, the entire race I was
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watching, and I saw Nico, like, early in the
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race, like, up in, like, eighth or something.
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And I was like, what? And just watched. him slowly
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climb up and up and up and i was like losing
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my mind the next thing i knew i'm sitting here
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i'm like we're looking at nico in fifth position
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fourth position we could be looking at a nico
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podium and i like messaged that to jokes we were
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watching the race at the same time we just weren't
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watching it together and that was where joe was
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like oh you're right holy cow and like it was
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insane like that was another drive that i say
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was dominant absolutely absurd drive out of Nico,
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best drive we've ever seen out of him. It was
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so good, so well -deserved. And even he himself
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was saying that in his post race interview, he's
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like, I was not expecting this. He's like, it
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has been a roller coaster of a weekend. He's
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like, I had a season. I had a terrible day yesterday
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placing almost dead last to end up on one of
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the best drives of my entire career. He's like,
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it has been a roller coaster of a weekend. And
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so it's super exciting. I went and bought a kicks
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over hat. So it's a Nico Hulkenberg hat. I just
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pulled the trigger. I was already thinking about
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it, and that was all the excuse I needed. So
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I'm super stoked. And this only makes me even
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more excited for Audi. I mean, he didn't win.
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No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just
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kidding. Imagine. The audacity. Hey, question.
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Where does your Alpine drive around again? A
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P6. Oh, yeah. Which I'm very happy about, by
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the way. Yeah, that's right. Only three positions
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lower than him. That's fine. Oh, that's right.
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And where did he start on the grid again? I don't
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care. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't
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matter. Yikes. You remember that part where Nico
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overtook him? I do. He has to make two positions.
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Excuse me. Speaking of... Sorry, I don't know
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what came over me there. Speaking of overtaking,
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yeah, you black out for a second. I saw red.
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Just multiple great drives from Nico throughout
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the season. Just to recap for some people that
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may be just joining this season, Australian GP
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went from P17 to P7. Spanish GP, P15 to P5. Austrian
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GP, P20 to P9. British GP, P19 to... Third. Three,
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yeah. Dude is really good at racing. Dude's having
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a great season. Yeah. Been super fun to watch.
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Yeah, I can't imagine the emotion you would feel
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after that many career races and not getting
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that chance until then. And then people are having
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an issue with the McLaren drivers, not going
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crazy with them. I think it's reading into it
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way too much. I can't expect Lando. Do they know?
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Do either of those guys know that Nico's never
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scored points ever in his career? Look into the
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context here. Lando just won his home Grand Prix,
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something he's been dreaming of since he was
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a child. Piastri's angry. He's just not going
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to be in a good mood. Who went up there for McLaren?
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Uh, it was their technical director, I believe.
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Yeah, because he was, like, getting shot in the
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face. Yeah, they always shoot their technical
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director. They always shoot their teacher. No,
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I know. Shoot, sorry, spray, champagne. No, he
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was, like, shooting in the face. They do that
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all the time. Yeah, I don't know. It just seemed
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really a lot more direct. Yeah, no, I definitely
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think people are reading too much into it. It's
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like, when they weren't celebrating Nico, it
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was like, well, because they did something really
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cool for themselves, too. And I'm sure they do
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acknowledge Nico had an amazing race, but McLaren
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also had an amazing race. I promise that's not
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McLaren. I'm so incredibly happy for Nico. Kevin,
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did you see the celebration? What did you think?
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on their own they definitely were on their own
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yeah definitely that's a that's a great call
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but also to be fair i feel like nico probably
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doesn't interact with those two super often he's
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never raced with them probably there's a huge
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age gap between the two of them it's literally
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like i want to talk about that for a second after
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this because there's a comment made that i thought
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was hilarious but uh nico had a generational
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drive yeah um oh yeah it was insane and and i
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i'm really happy you brought up previous races
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because i didn't realize like the steps he'd
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been making for the team and i think bordoletto
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just needs a little more refinement and he's
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kind of he's probably not right there but he's
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he's in the mix so yeah yeah that was it was
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great driving it was really really fun to see
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a kick salver that far up yeah dude crazy yeah
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after watching kick salver last year literally
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do so badly Seeing them on the podium this year
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was not on my bucket list. I put Alpine on the
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podium before I put Cakes. Oh, yeah, me too.
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100%. Yeah. If we're done talking about Hulkenberg
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specifically, I'd like to ask a question of Cake
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in general. Yes. Go for it. I think I ask this
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every single week with a single team. Does this
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momentum carry? To next week? Yeah. I keep on
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wanting to say no. Yeah. I keep on wanting to
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say no, but then they just keep on doing it.
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They keep, like, finishing either in points or
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getting better, and now they're podium. Right.
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I don't think they're going to podium again this
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season. I've noticed Nico seems poor on the one
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-lap pace, but he makes it up for his race craft.
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Right. And I feel like Gabby seems to be faster
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in quality. Yeah, Gabby does seem to be faster
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in quality. He needs a refinement in experience.
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I think if I remember correctly, it's... They're
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6 -6 right now, actually. I think they're 6 -6
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in qualifying. I think he definitely needs to
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work on his one pace. I feel like he was the
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same way in Haas, too. He was struggling with
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his one pace. But yeah, he's just super good
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on track. His race craft is so good. I don't
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know if we see the kick continue to do better.
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I know... they made some small upgrades to their
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car was really all they were doing they haven't
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had any major upgrades because kickstarter has
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been focused on audi that's their big focus right
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now so they've made some small adjustments fixed
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their pit stops and that's basically all they've
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done and everything else is just kind of coming
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together so i mean maybe it does keep up i don't
20:54
think we see them on the podium again Another
20:56
top five? Can Hulkenberg sneak another top five
20:59
in there? I could see him sneaking another fifth
21:01
in there. We can't really put it past him right
21:04
now. This is his second one in the last four
21:06
races. He went 15 to fifth, you said. Just pure
21:12
dominance. I mean, you're right. Pure dominance
21:15
from Hulkenberg into Kix Albert. The math does
21:19
not add up for him to be in fifth, but he's been
21:23
doing it. He's been doing it. Yeah, I feel the
21:26
same way. I don't know. Do we ask him the question
21:28
that I asked you? Oh, yeah, actually, I would
21:31
like that. So I brought up, and he disagrees
21:35
with me on this. I believe that in this race,
21:37
I think Nico drove the best race out of anybody
21:40
on the track. And I refuted that while he did
21:44
drive an incredible race, and maybe, maybe even
21:48
the best race, I think I can't in good conscience
21:52
say it was the best race. Because Lando had pretty
21:54
much a flawless race as well, right? I think
21:59
that's our argument, because I also think Lando
22:01
probably drove the second best. Like, if we're
22:02
taking the cars out of it. And I'm not saying
22:04
Lando did the best. But still, going from P19
22:07
to podium is wild, to in a kick, again, but trying
22:12
to take the cars out of it, that's tough. Yeah.
22:14
That's tough. Who got driver of the day? Nico.
22:17
Resoundingly. It was like 40 -something percent.
22:21
I'm not giving it to either Lando or Nico. I'm
22:23
just saying I'd probably need to watch. Absolutely.
22:27
I'd need to watch every single driver's perspective,
22:29
I think. My big argument, because I also think
22:32
that Lando drove basically a flawless race, and
22:35
so the only thing that puts Nico Hulkenberg ahead
22:37
for me is the fact that all Lando did was just
22:42
drive clean. And that was it. Like, second place
22:44
he got gifted because Max spun out. First place
22:47
he got gifted because Oscar had a penalty. And
22:50
then he just kept it clean, which is, like, great.
22:53
That's all, like, you can't ask for more out
22:54
of your driver, right? Versus Nico also drove
22:57
incredibly clean all race but had to fight through
23:00
the field the entire way. He had to overtake
23:02
better cars than his. And then he had to defend
23:05
against better cars, including against a driver
23:08
like Lewis Hamilton, who... The lap that Nico
23:12
overtook Lance Stroll, two corners later, Hamilton
23:16
overtook Stroll. So Hamilton was right on his
23:19
tail. But Nico was still able to keep him behind.
23:23
Hamilton was not right on Nico's tail. It was
23:26
over a second. Towards the end, he couldn't catch
23:29
him. Towards the end, he couldn't catch him.
23:31
And then Lando did overtake Max legitimately,
23:34
then lost the place in the pit stop, and then
23:36
got gifted it once he spun. So he did overtake
23:39
him once. Oh, I don't remember him overtaking
23:40
Max. He did overtake him once. That was an overtake.
23:43
He spun after he overtook him, right? He overtook
23:46
him, and then Max got the place back through
23:50
pit stop shenanigans. So Lando had an overtake,
23:54
and aside from that, got the rest of his positions
23:56
through. gifting, and he just drove a really
23:59
clean race. The rest of his positions being two.
24:01
Right, yeah. As opposed to Nico Hulkenberg, who
24:04
was effectively gifted a handful of positions
24:07
due to the frontrunners. Well, he was ahead of
24:11
most of those drivers before they DNF'd. He was...
24:14
He was gifted positions from drivers in front
24:17
of him being on slicks when they should have
24:19
been on enters, when he was on enters, and so
24:22
he got a huge advantage from that, and I will
24:24
give that as an argument of like, you know, that's
24:29
not the most impressive thing, but he still did
24:30
overtake two Ferraris, the Williams, which are
24:33
outperforming him. And I think the Haases were
24:37
on slicks, but like he overtook better cars and
24:41
Mercedes. He overtook both Mercedes. And this
24:44
was, he had overtaken Kimi Antonelli prior to
24:48
Kimi getting crashed. My only argument for Lando
24:51
is like, you can't fault the guy. for running
24:56
a good race. And I'm not. He got handed some
24:59
stuff, for sure, but took full advantage of what
25:03
was given to him. I can definitely see both sides,
25:07
for sure. See, my thing is they both drove a
25:09
flawless race, except Nico just had to do more
25:12
for his flawless race to give him more. I would
25:15
agree that one was drastically different. It
25:17
was a different race, but it was still flawless.
25:20
I think both were flawless, but I just think
25:23
Nico did more. For sure. Joe, I'm about to move
25:25
on. This is my TED Talk. I know you were looking
25:27
up some stuff. No, no, no. I'm about to pop off
25:29
real quick. Oh, no. Him and I have already had
25:32
our... You guys already... They were just swinging
25:34
on each other before we hit record. I'm happy
25:35
with my point. I've had to break them up. It
25:38
was pretty wild. Yeah, anyway. So now, I guess,
25:44
Red Bull. No, I'm sorry. Ferrari. Ferrari. We
25:47
mentioned them real quick. Hamilton finishing
25:50
P4, having a great race at Silverstone, to be
25:54
expected. But actually, at the end, he really
25:57
couldn't catch the kick, which is still crazy
26:01
to say. Second time this season. Couldn't catch
26:03
the kick. This is the second time this season
26:05
that he couldn't catch Nico Hulkenberg. And then
26:09
Charles, just real crappy. Crappy weekend in
26:11
general, but just real crappy. really hard on
26:16
himself too the last two weeks like extremely
26:18
like beating himself up hard so hopefully this
26:21
little break in July and then summer break in
26:24
in August does Charles some good what's funny
26:27
go back to Monaco and sit on the yacht for a
26:29
little bit yeah just do nothing what's funny
26:31
I don't know if you've heard my mom has gotten
26:33
into starting to watch some of the races like
26:34
she'll watch it at like whatever and she's become
26:37
like a big Charles Leclerc fan makes sense I'm
26:39
mom I assume you're gonna watch this you know
26:41
this makes sense but like Yeah, it's just so
26:45
funny because she texted me. She's like, oh,
26:47
Charles is doing so poorly. I was like, oh, you
26:51
know. Sorry. I forgot. That's right, that she
26:54
likes Charles. Yeah. Who doesn't? Who doesn't?
26:58
I mean, he's good. We like Charles. I mean, yeah,
27:00
he's good. He's okay. I don't know. It's still
27:03
one of the greatest moments for sure. My short
27:06
F1 watching lifespan is Charles winning at Monaco
27:09
will always forever be one of the greatest things
27:11
I've ever seen. but yeah Ferrari uh yeah Ferrari
27:17
fans message like the Facebook page or something
27:19
or put comment on YouTube or something like let's
27:22
let's get your we want to know your your opinions
27:24
as a Ferrari fan you know or any of you other
27:26
fans out there but um definitely Ferrari we've
27:29
got to hear from you because none of us are um
27:32
Ferrari fans so like yeah anyway who's next uh
27:37
Verstappen yeah Well, Verstappen. The Verstappen
27:40
Bulls? Sonota's kind of like, just kind of just...
27:44
Tough? You know. I think he was another one that...
27:46
You know, you go get a Big Mac with fries, Sonota's
27:48
the fries right now. You know what I mean? Like,
27:50
he's not what you're excited about. I think Sonota
27:53
was another one of those ones that started on
27:54
slicks, right? You know what? I have that list,
27:59
actually. Oh, you do? Yeah. I thought... I know
28:01
LeClaire was... It was... LeClaire and George.
28:05
Slowapinto, and then stayed there. George Russell,
28:08
Charles LeClaire, Hajar, and Bortoletto. Okay.
28:12
I stand corrected. So, yeah. I mean, realistically,
28:15
probably should have done better. I mean, that's
28:16
the AI overview anyway. Sure. That's via Google.
28:20
That's fine. That's probably... Probably close
28:22
enough. Yeah. Yeah. We're official. Probably
28:26
should have done better, but... Sponsored by
28:27
Google. Oh, my gosh. Not yet, but hey, Google.
28:33
He probably should have done better, but, you
28:35
know, car's bad. Track conditions are tricky.
28:39
Like, car was really bad this weekend. Unless
28:43
you're Max Verstappen. No, car was even bad.
28:45
Wait, who are we talking about? Oh, yeah, Red
28:46
Bull. I mean, he was running up front, you know,
28:48
so... He was running up front, but he was not
28:50
holding it. Like, it was... I mean, he's Max
28:54
Verstappen. He got down to 10th, and he made
28:58
it back up to 5th, which is still crazy. Especially,
29:01
he was fighting that car hard. Yeah, the interviewer
29:04
was like, that was a pretty good recovery. He
29:06
was like, yeah, but I was struggling so much.
29:09
It was such, I had literally no pace. I was watching,
29:12
I was like, brother, you made 5th. Yeah, I can't
29:15
remember what turn it was, but he was always
29:17
sideways. The whole race, he was consistently
29:19
sideways. I was going to figure out what turn
29:21
that was, but I can't remember. Yeah, so Red
29:22
Bull, I can't remember if it was. for both cars,
29:25
but definitely for max, they brought a slimmer
29:26
wing. Um, I don't think they realized how wet
29:29
it was going to be. I think he's even said in
29:31
his interviews, like the forecast, they were
29:33
just not expecting it. So he brought a slimmer
29:35
wing and it really, really caused them to struggle
29:37
in the corners. Yep. Well, I hope, I hope they
29:40
keep the same wing for the next race. Just no,
29:44
in terms. No, I mean, well, spa is spa has a
29:49
couple of, I'm trying to remember what kind of
29:52
set up spot. Does it need a lower wing or a higher
29:55
wing setup? Because there are some crazy corners,
29:58
but there are also some crazy straights. There
29:59
are some pretty crazy straights. I think it probably
30:02
needs more of a balance setup, maybe. I'm not
30:04
sure. We'll find out next week. I think it actually
30:07
does need more slip. We'll find out next week
30:09
before we do our preview show. Because next week's
30:12
our time trials. That's true. Oh, boy. That's
30:14
true. We should do Spa as one of them. Oh, yeah?
30:17
Oh, no. I mean... He looks at me. Oh, no. I mean,
30:21
I could do Spa. I'll be in the gravel. I don't
30:23
know if I'll complete a lap. I like Spa. We'll
30:25
see. I've been practicing, though. Good. So I
30:28
don't look like a complete fool. I will get third
30:30
out of the three of us. I plan on getting third
30:33
out of the three of us. You'll come in first
30:34
when I crash out Joe. Perfect, yes. Okay, I like
30:37
this idea. All right, moving on. I like this
30:39
idea. Yeah, Yuki just, again, rough. Joe put
30:43
in here, Yuki with another weekend to forget.
30:46
Could have been said better. Alpine, yes. Look
30:51
at that. Pierre, I like your note in here, Joe.
30:54
That's actually kind of funny. Gasly reported
30:56
with a broken back after carrying the entire
30:58
team on his shoulders. Couldn't be more true.
31:03
I mean, he continues to prove that week in and
31:05
week out for Alpine. There are a couple times
31:07
he is in the back of the pack, but usually Cole
31:10
Pendle's right there with him as well. Cole Pendle
31:13
didn't even get out of the pits this week. Not
31:14
quite his fault, per se. No, not his fault. It
31:18
ended up being a driveline issue is what it was.
31:20
That's all I could find, driveline issue. Okay.
31:24
For whatever it's worth, too, because we were
31:26
talking about best drives of the day, Pierre
31:28
was up there, too, for me. Had a great day. He
31:30
was up there all day, too. Him and Hulkenberg,
31:32
too, were both up there all day. Fabulous drive
31:35
out of him. I can't say anything negative about
31:38
him. His overtake on Lance. That's fine. Don't
31:40
talk about him. Don't talk about him. No. I'm
31:42
giving him his flowers. No. I don't even want
31:44
you to give him his flowers. Okay, fine. I don't
31:45
want to talk about Alpine anyways. You guys both
31:46
had your chance to give him flowers before, and
31:50
you didn't. Before what? When you wanted to talk
31:52
about Alpine. Alpine before, and you didn't.
31:54
What are you talking about? When I wasn't here.
31:58
What are you talking about? I don't even know
31:59
what you're talking about right now. Who's Alpine?
32:02
I have no idea. I've never heard of this team
32:04
before. Good, good. Move on. Some kind of Renault
32:08
engine? Actually, no. While we're on Alpine,
32:10
though, while we are on Alpine, I am kind of
32:12
curious about how you feel about all these rumors
32:15
about Valtteri and whatnot. I mean, at this point,
32:20
I mean, again, this race is tough. I don't really
32:22
count this against Colapinto. Not his fault.
32:25
Right. But had another rough few practices leading
32:28
up. He pretty much gets in the car, and it's
32:31
rough right now. I mean, at the moment, Alpine's
32:37
not catching nobody. Right. Good chance they
32:41
won't catch Haas either. I mean, even though
32:43
Haas didn't finish in points this week either.
32:45
God, Haas is down to nine. I know. Yeah, right.
32:49
I don't know. Unless Gasly can have a couple
32:52
P5s or better, I don't see it getting any better
32:56
for Alpine, so why not? Throw Botas in there,
32:59
whatever. And if he does well enough, well, geez,
33:01
does he just get the seat for 2026? God, I hope
33:04
not. Why? Because I would rather see him in a
33:08
Cadillac. Oh, fair enough. That's fair, that's
33:11
fair, that's fair. I'll still be an Alpine fan,
33:13
even when Cadillac comes to the grid. That's
33:15
good, I appreciate that. I'll be a Cadillac fan,
33:16
but I'll still be... I'll be Alpine until Gasly
33:21
leaves. If he retires Alpine, I'll just be Alpine
33:24
forever. But if he leaves Alpine, depending on
33:28
who else is there, I might just kick them to
33:30
the curb. Interesting. I'm loyal to Gasly, not
33:34
necessarily Alpine. Okay. That's fair. That's
33:36
fair. But if they bring in a second driver, that's
33:38
awesome. And they can, you know, come out of
33:40
the gate swinging next year. That'd be great.
33:42
That would get me to buy another hat. I wouldn't
33:45
hold your breath. Yep. I'm not. I'm not. That's
33:49
why I'm buying a Mercedes hat. Yeah, nice. Anyway.
33:53
Speaking of Mercedes. I'll still be Alpine. Yeah,
33:56
I mean, screw it. Well, actually. It is actually
34:00
next time. Yeah, actually. Stroll, like... Lands
34:04
a lot, Stroll. Okay, no, hold on. I'm going to
34:07
start on Fernando because I need to talk about
34:08
Stroll. Oh, geez. Fernando, good race. Like,
34:12
he struggled with strategy, but aside from that,
34:15
he recovered really well, put himself back into
34:17
some points. Like, keeping his point record going,
34:21
he's continuously making points every weekend.
34:23
This is what he needs to see, so that's good.
34:25
He's 12th in driver standings. He... No, Alonso
34:30
is 14th. Oh, I'm talking about Stroll. My bad.
34:33
Sorry. Which is crazy, by the way. Sorry. My
34:37
bad. Stroll had a good drive. He's really good
34:42
in these conditions. He's like mixed conditions,
34:44
right? He had a good drive. He had perfect strategy
34:47
handed to him. Strategy could not be better.
34:49
He was running in the top three for a good portion
34:51
of the race. And then just fell off at the end.
34:54
The Aston really struggles with tire degradation.
34:56
That's fine. That's kind of expected. Yeah, Gasly
35:00
passed him really easily at the end. Super handily.
35:03
Yeah. So... He really, really fell off. And I
35:07
think part of that reason is because he was fighting
35:09
way too hard to try and keep Nico behind him
35:11
when really Nico wasn't trying that hard to get
35:13
past him. So he should have just given up third
35:16
and just tried to conserve his tires. Maybe he
35:18
could have held sixth. But my problem is they
35:23
didn't air it on the actual race, but after he
35:27
crossed the line, his... The engineer came online
35:32
and was like, great race. That was a great job.
35:35
It was an awesome showing. And he immediately
35:38
cracked back saying, no, that was awful. This
35:40
was terrible. This was an awful race for me.
35:42
And then when he went to the news pen, he was
35:45
complaining about the car and how this is the
35:46
worst car he's ever driven. And I'm like, dude,
35:50
you were in third. What are you talking about?
35:52
For a minute, too. This is one of the best drives
35:56
I've seen out of you. And sure, you fell back.
36:00
Yeah, right here in this part of the race. This
36:04
is like lap 14 in the pure downpour, and he's
36:06
sitting at fourth right now. Exactly, yeah. So
36:08
I'm like, you should not be crying and whining
36:11
and lashing out to your engineer right now. You
36:14
should be feeling good. You scored points. It
36:17
was a good showing. You should be proud of yourself
36:20
and the team right now, and he just is making
36:23
Aston look bad per usual. Are you saying that
36:27
you want Stroll out of Aston? I can't even say
36:32
what this shirt is. Breaking news. Oh, my God.
36:34
Take my hat off. I tried. Oh, well. All right.
36:40
Actually, you might as well just talk about Haas
36:41
now. No. Just stay with him. No. Why not? Because
36:44
it's Williams first. No. He's got to talk about
36:47
Williams. Oh, you're right. It is Williams first.
36:49
I'm sorry, Joe. I'm kind of bummed you didn't
36:50
wear your Williams hat. Joe. Where are my Williams
36:52
hats? You scored points. God, you should do that.
36:55
Woo! If that's the case, you're never going to
36:57
wear your Williams hat. No, I mean, if Williams
36:59
have a good race, that's how McLaren won, so
37:02
I have to wear a McLaren hat. We'll just solve
37:04
it. Just come back from break wearing an Alpine
37:07
hat. No. I'm not going to buy an Alpine hat right
37:10
now. That's a waste of money. Crazy. When and
37:17
why did Sainz retire? Not Sainz. Yeah, Sainz.
37:24
I don't know. Technical problem, I'd have to
37:26
assume. I don't even remember him retiring, honestly.
37:28
I don't either. I remember him racing against
37:32
Max at one point. Because, oh my gosh, there
37:36
was a comment. That the commentators made after
37:38
Max spun out and came back in. And they're like,
37:41
Max Verstappen is in a William sandwich. The
37:43
AI says, Colonel Sines left the British GP in
37:47
2025 after a light collision. Dropped him from
37:49
points, leaving him frustrated and fed up. It
37:52
was the collision with Yuki. It was Yuki's family
37:56
collision. Oh, and Yuki got that. 10 seconds,
37:58
right? Williams was a broken car. I don't think
38:03
either driver loved driving it. Albon just scraping
38:06
some points, getting some, and then calling it
38:09
a day. Eighth is really, I think, what they can
38:11
hope for. Obviously, they want both cars to finish.
38:13
I think both cars can still finish in points.
38:16
Kind of like an Aston thing, 9 -7 type deal.
38:19
Oh, yeah, both cars can. They just need to finish
38:22
a race. Yep. Okay. Now we can go to Haas. That's
38:25
it for Williams? Okay. That was it. Actually,
38:27
technically, Mercedes is next. Oh, we can all
38:31
go to Mercedes then. That's fine. Nah, they can
38:33
wait. Okay. Go for it. Mercedes had... Okay.
38:38
They did their old -timey hat thing. It was very
38:40
funny to watch Toto get so angry in those old
38:42
-timey hats. Oh, yeah. I love it, dude. I remember
38:45
on DTS specifically, they were wearing their
38:47
old -timey garb, and they did horrible that weekend.
38:50
Yeah. And they brought it back this year, and
38:51
they did horrible again. I bet your Mercedes
38:54
never does it again. They're like, we can't.
38:57
It's cursed. Yeah, they were all in their orange
39:00
to celebrate their historic orange car, whatever
39:02
it is. Yeah, it was fun. I don't have anything
39:04
else from Mercedes. Russell had a bad strategy
39:08
and therefore got a bad place. I saw a comment
39:11
on a video I was watching where it's like amidst
39:13
all of the drama about George Russell potentially
39:15
not re -signing with Mercedes and does Max maybe
39:19
go to Mercedes? And they're like, and Mercedes.
39:22
and the most genius scene they could have done
39:24
amidst all this drama is put orange on their
39:26
car. Oh, that was so funny. Yep. Anyways, Haas.
39:33
Haas. I'll keep it tootsweet, too. It was us
39:37
showing. It was the race of all time. They both
39:41
stayed on track, which is better than other teams,
39:43
I suppose. Well, Berman was the only rookie to
39:46
stay on the track, right? Berman was the only
39:48
rookie to finish. Specifically, not DNF. They
39:51
went off track a couple times. A couple times.
39:53
Sometimes together. Yeah. In beautiful fashion.
39:57
In a beautiful spin. One that rivals the nutcracker.
40:01
I did want to mention Bearman, his home race.
40:07
He had an excellent qualify. He got into Q3.
40:11
He was very quick, but it was all ruined by a
40:14
very stupid mistake he made in FP3. He got on
40:18
the radio right away. He was like, that was so
40:19
stupid. I can't believe I did that. Immediately
40:21
handed a 10 -place grid penalty. As he was going
40:26
into the pit lane, he was taking too much speed,
40:28
hit the brakes too hard, spun and hit the pit
40:30
lane wall. That was during a red flag already.
40:34
I think Bearman could have gotten some actual...
40:37
points i think he could have done it i just i
40:39
i understand why that penalty came down it leaves
40:42
a bad taste in my mouth it might just be haas
40:44
bias i don't know i don't think so i don't you
40:46
don't think it was deserved i don't think it
40:48
was deserved it's like like how was like like
40:53
what was unsafe to anyone but ollie in that situation
40:56
was right behind him was he he was like and he
40:59
was like i think he technically kind of i mean
41:01
he He was going really fast to the pit lane during
41:05
a red flag and then spun because he tried stopping
41:09
too hard. I mean, he was basically doing what
41:10
Piastri did during the safety car restart, if
41:13
you think about it. Okay. And to Max behind him.
41:15
Okay. Poor Max. I think, I think, no, I mean,
41:18
Max was fine. Max laughed. He was like, what
41:20
the heck? That was weird. Like on radio. He was
41:23
like bewildered by it. It's, it was a stupid
41:27
mistake. It was a red flag infringement. We could
41:31
go back and forth on if it was too harsh or not.
41:33
Maybe it was too harsh, but if I'm going with
41:36
the line of they're going to keep consistent
41:38
with their penalties, then he takes a 10 second.
41:41
You might need to give me the hat for this. Carlos
41:45
finished 12th, by the way. He didn't DNF. That's
41:51
my bad. I just looked it up and it said he did
41:54
too, but now I'm looking up standings and I didn't
41:57
trust ESPN. For good reasons. Good reasons, yeah.
42:00
And so I went and checked again, and no, I'm
42:02
seeing somewhere else, too, that he did actually
42:04
finish P12. Why did I? Sorry, I just had to get
42:06
that out real quick. Because I was like bugged
42:08
for a second. I was like, this is wrong. Did
42:11
he? I completely missed it. That's my bad. You're
42:14
right. He was totally in 12th. Yeah, where did
42:16
I get that he DNF'd? I don't know. But he did
42:18
get in that crash, and he dropped. He must have
42:20
climbed back up. I don't know. I'm blanking,
42:22
but anyway, sorry. Yeah, so if it was dry, if
42:27
the track was dry, scene. Oh, jeez. That was
42:31
so aggressive. I'm going to break the hat. We
42:33
got summer break. Yeah, we got to put it back
42:34
together. If it were dry, right? We saw the crazy
42:39
pace that Oli had. Well, you're going to hear
42:41
the take first. We saw the crazy pace that Oli
42:45
had in qualifying, making it to Q3, pretty handily
42:48
at that. The Haas is really bad in the rain.
42:51
If it were dry, I think Oli gets as high as sixth.
42:58
No, I don't think that's too crazy. I think it's
43:02
a lot. Seeing how fast he was in quali, how comfortable
43:07
he is on this track, if it wasn't raining, if
43:13
it were dry, because this Haas is just undriveable
43:15
in the rain, and it's always been bad in the
43:17
rain. If it were dry, we could have seen, and
43:20
we see him very consistently as the driver who
43:23
has the most positions gained. Potentially best
43:29
track. Yeah. I think there's a very real chance
43:32
we see him race up to a decent point position.
43:34
P7. That's on the low side, I feel. Let me pitch
43:40
this to you, though. If it's not raining for
43:42
him, it's not raining for other drivers, too,
43:44
which means that they're not making those bad
43:45
strategy calls because they're not dropping so
43:48
far back. I just don't. I think he's fighting
43:50
a lot more, and because of that, I think he's
43:53
probably getting 9th or 10th, but hopefully still
43:57
points. It would be cool. You're right, though.
44:00
He did really well during qualifying. He was
44:03
really good. He was really fast during qualifying.
44:05
I would like to see him up. there more but i
44:07
mean so many drivers got caught up by the rain
44:10
i mean i go as far as to say and i don't know
44:11
if you guys agree with me this if it wasn't raining
44:13
and the strategies didn't happen nico wasn't
44:16
gonna get third i think you're right yeah yeah
44:18
so i have to say that bearman probably would
44:20
have i think he would have gotten points i just
44:22
think they wouldn't have been six uh i'd say
44:25
like seven to ten probably it's a little more
44:27
realistic it's a good thing i'm wearing the hat
44:29
yeah okay but it wasn't that bad of a take you
44:31
can put on here okay thank you Just remember
44:35
what you want. Let's see. Real quick. The only
44:37
other team we got to talk about we don't really
44:39
need to talk about. Racing Bulls. That was indeed
44:43
a double DNF. It was. I do feel bad. Like the
44:47
Liam thing we were watching before the pod started.
44:50
And yeah, that was just. Classic Liam Lawson,
44:53
just rookie mistake. Isaac Kadjar, I feel really
44:57
bad for him because watching his onboard, man.
44:59
It was nothing but spray, and then he was in
45:03
the back of Kimi. There was no time to react
45:07
to that. And even if he did react to it, he's
45:10
in the wet. What is he going to do? He's going
45:12
to hydroplane and run into the back of Kimi.
45:14
It's tough. You know, it is what it is. It is
45:19
what it is for the Rising Bulls. Yeah, that pretty
45:24
much wraps up the recap. Joe, what do you have
45:27
for calm call -outs? I only have one. It's not
45:29
really a calm. I only have one as well, but it's
45:33
so short and simple, but the context is so funny.
45:37
So on lap eight, Russell says, it's raining,
45:40
brilliant, while he's on slicks. That was it.
45:45
It's raining, brilliant. Perfect. Such a good
45:49
call -out. I laughed at that, too. That was pretty
45:50
funny. My only one was one of the commentators
45:54
was talking about Gasly. Of course, this is the
45:57
one I catch. Just like last week where it's like
46:00
taking candy from a baby or whatever. But this
46:04
one he called ghastly. Another Red Bull reject
46:07
looking like the real deal these days. Yeah,
46:09
I saw that. I was actively laughing out loud
46:13
at that. That was so funny, dude. That's crazy.
46:17
Oh, that was so good. Also, shout out to Fernando
46:22
Alonso being frustrated when the strategy wasn't
46:26
working halfway through the race. And he got
46:28
on. He's like, seriously, you guys just can't
46:30
get it right for me, I swear. Who said this?
46:35
There's another George Russell one where I think
46:37
they're asking about his tires. I think this
46:39
had to be later in the race. This might have
46:41
been when he spun on lap 41 or whatever. Thinking
46:46
about what tires to run and Russell's like, depends
46:50
how brave you want to be. We're running P7. And
46:54
they responded, brave, but not suicidal. We're
46:56
still looking. Also, I just saw a new thing there
47:02
that was spin. I think it was Russell where he
47:04
was going through maggots and beckets. He, like,
47:07
did the full, like, spin, spin, spin, and then
47:10
got going straight again, and then just went
47:12
through the grass the rest of the way through
47:14
Magnuson Beckett's, and I was like, oh, we're
47:15
playing Mario Kart now. Yeah, yeah. Like, this
47:19
is a Mario Kart shortcut. That was when he just
47:21
took on Slicks. Yeah. Yeah, it was so funny,
47:23
because they just told him, not suicidal, and
47:26
then, yeah. He went off like a helicopter, bro.
47:29
It was crazy. Well, we kind of got a little break
47:34
between this show and the next show. A little
47:37
bit, yeah. We're going to be trying to run some
47:39
time trials on F125, and hopefully we can share
47:43
that with you. That's the part that we're also
47:46
trialing, is to be able to share that with you.
47:49
Excuse me. That is the goal. Otherwise, we're
47:52
not back until... That's the 22nd? Is that when
47:56
we're recording? That'll be when we're recording.
47:58
We're pretty good about... Kev's pretty good
48:00
about getting it... Kev is pretty good about
48:03
getting it same night, so possibly the 22nd,
48:05
maybe, if not the 23rd. Yeah, for sure. Any quick
48:09
thoughts? We got these printed out. You know
48:12
what? Let's do that and let's also bring up our
48:17
standings. I'll bring those up. Don't worry about
48:19
it. Oh, my friend. It's looking bad for both
48:24
of us, but it's looking a little better for me.
48:27
Shut up. Just slightly. I mean, is there much
48:32
to talk about in driver team standings? I mean,
48:35
driver, obviously, there's the battle. There's
48:37
Piastri and Lando. That's going to come down
48:40
to it. Yep. There was a couple things I wanted
48:43
to state. The points between the bottom teams
48:47
so much closer than last season, where we had
48:51
a kick below 10 points for the entirety of the
48:55
season, and now the lowest is 19, which is very
48:58
good. So it's really nice to see bottom teams
49:02
doing so well. Hulkenberg jumping to ninth with
49:06
37 points. He's in the top 10 currently. Do we
49:10
have top 10 predictions? Hulkenberg with 37 points
49:12
is great. Yeah, we do. We do have top 10 predictions.
49:14
Yeah, Hulkenberg's not in any of ours. It's hilarious.
49:18
Oh, no, we have top five. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
49:20
okay. He's not up there either. I got my whole
49:24
20 still saved. Williams is still in the fifth.
49:27
Somehow, okay, Sauber's now in sixth with 41
49:30
points, followed by Racing Bulls and Aston Martin
49:32
tied at 36. Haas is getting closer and closer
49:35
to, I think I put Haas in ninth, didn't I? You
49:38
did, yeah. And I put Kick in last. I think we
49:40
all put Kick in last. I also had Haas and Kick,
49:43
9 and 10. Yeah, so Haas is unfortunate. I mean,
49:47
they're not super far from Aston, and Aston's
49:50
not having a good run. I'm trying to think if
49:52
there's anything. Haas hasn't even been that
49:53
bad this year. No. It's still like one race,
49:57
as we saw for Kick, can completely change that
50:00
bottom half of the standings. Russell is weirdly
50:03
close to Verstappen. I know. That's crazy. And
50:08
Leclerc is a little further away, but right up
50:10
there with Hamilton. And then Antonelli is seventh,
50:13
which is all things considered pretty good. Highest
50:15
of the rookies. Yep. Kind of right about where
50:18
I was kind of expecting him, I think. Wow. A
50:20
lot higher than any rookies. 22 points higher
50:23
than any rookie. Yeah. I mean, he's in a Mercedes.
50:25
I expect no less. If he wasn't that much higher
50:28
than the rest of the rookies, I would. And Hadjar's
50:33
a solid. Hadjar's a solid 21, which is the second
50:36
best of all the rookies. I would say he's the
50:38
best of the rest for sure. Third is Liam at 12.
50:40
Like Hadjar. Interesting. Hadjar and Liam might
50:44
lose a job. It's possible. I put Kimmy at 8th
50:48
in my predictions. Oh, he's pretty close. So
50:51
that was pretty close. I also had... Crazy. I
50:55
had... I had Esteban in 9th. He's in 10th. George
51:00
in sixth. He's in fourth. I put Lewis Hamilton
51:05
in fourth. That didn't age very well. Yeah. And
51:13
then two of the three Alpines with zero points.
51:16
Okay. I thought Gabriel Bordaleta wasn't going
51:18
to score any points this season. I mean, to be
51:21
fair, I didn't either. He had a crazy good race
51:23
last weekend. And it's still only the two Alpine
51:27
drivers that have yet to score. I also put Isaac
51:28
Kajar in 18th. I was not feeling the hype for
51:31
him going into this season. Boy, was I wrong.
51:34
I did not expect him to have more points than
51:36
Yuki Tsunoda on the season. At any point in the
51:39
season. To his defense, he got to stay in the
51:41
V -car. True. The better car. Let's see. Our
51:48
points. We'll start with Mike. He picked Oscar
51:52
George Max in that order for Silverstone. He
51:57
got one point. This close. For so long during
52:01
the race, I was slotted to get six points. And
52:05
by so long, I mean like 18 laps. But that's beside
52:07
the point. He got sucked into that. It was George
52:09
anywhere near the top. Wait, I thought I said
52:12
Oscar Lando Max. You said Oscar George Max. I
52:15
did Oscar. You both took George. Well, you know
52:18
what? It's crazy that you didn't put Lando in
52:21
there. Yeah. Well, no, because remember I was
52:23
saying I was going to have Lando to win, and
52:25
then I decided to change it to Oscar because
52:27
I was like, I won't be different from you. Gotcha.
52:30
Because I did think Lando was probably going
52:32
to win this race. He did say that. He wanted
52:35
to be different. That's why he changed it. See?
52:37
You got to do it for the sake of the standings
52:39
next time. You know what? Content. Unbelievable.
52:42
Yeah. Yeah. Woo -hoo. Sorry. That was weird.
52:49
His inner demon came out. Joe, picking Lando,
52:54
Lewis. Oh, I'm sorry. Mike got one point from
52:56
those picks. So Mike is now at 28 points on the
53:00
C zone. Joe, going with Lando, Lewis, and George.
53:05
All British podium. The dream is dead. The dream
53:10
is dead. Joe got two points. Moves to 29 points.
53:13
One ahead of Mike. Carson! Small T, that's me.
53:19
I went Lando, Oscar, Lewis. In that order, I
53:24
picked Lando and Oscar were getting me the four
53:26
points, and Lewis coming up short at four. Pete
53:29
four. Moves me to 33 points. Almost my second
53:33
six of the season. Do you remember what I said
53:35
when we were picking predictions? I was like,
53:37
I'm going to put Lewis in second because I actually
53:39
think Oscar's going to get second, but I think
53:41
Russell's more likely to get third, and so that's
53:43
why I'm doing it in that order. But if Oscar
53:46
was more likely to get second. I knew Oscar.
53:52
Oscar, I think, is probably actually going to
53:55
get second, but I want to put George in the place.
53:58
I think George is going to get third. I wanted
54:01
to get four points, and then Lewis was just a
54:03
wild card for me, essentially. That whole episode,
54:05
I was going to pick George in P3 as well. Seriously,
54:09
but I don't know. Obviously, it didn't matter
54:12
because I went with Lewis, and that wasn't it
54:14
either. Like I said, I did it for the dream.
54:16
Dream's dead. Man, I should have known better.
54:21
I should have put Nico Hulkenberg in third. Yeah,
54:22
I should have known. We got plenty of races left,
54:26
plenty of more picks to come. Never know what's
54:30
still going to happen in our... I mean, Joe's
54:33
only four points back and Mike's within five.
54:35
And he could get a six. It's true. You had six
54:40
going during the race. It was close. Like 18
54:44
laps. Have you had a six yet this year? No, I've
54:50
had plenty of fours, I think. Yeah, you have
54:51
had a lot of fours, yeah. I think I'm, like,
54:54
usually, like, I'm not scoring basically anything,
54:56
or I'm getting four. I think it's been my trend.
54:59
I'm getting, like, either one or four. No, that's
55:02
not true. No? Have any of us gotten zero? No,
55:05
you've gotten two fours. None of us have gotten
55:08
zero. I was just curious. None of us have gotten
55:11
zero? That's pretty impressive, actually. I'm
55:12
happy with that. I got a couple zeros last season.
55:17
We're all voting on McLaren. You got two, two,
55:21
three, two, four, four, three, one, three, one,
55:23
two, one. Recently, you've been on the backswing.
55:27
Your buttons recently is what he's saying. That's
55:31
crazy. You've hit every single point possible.
55:33
None of us have gotten five. There's no fives.
55:37
Only one of us have gotten six. I'll change that
55:41
next week. But that's six. We can't get five.
55:44
What am I thinking? That's impossible. No, you
55:47
can't. You'd have to get two perfect in the next
55:50
one. It's either four or six. He's right. You
55:53
can't get five. So every single score possible.
55:58
And that's with the boys. I swear we all graduated.
56:03
I promise. I know. As soon as you said it, I
56:06
was like, dang, yeah, you're right. How can you
56:08
get five? And then I started moving it around.
56:12
I was like, I still can't get five. All right,
56:20
we got to get out of here. All right. Yeah, next
56:22
show, not for, what, two weeks to be established.
56:25
We're going to run some time trials in F125.
56:27
Look for that, hopefully, to be released sometime
56:29
by end of next week or something like that of
56:33
the sort, if we can figure out technology. Mike,
56:38
thanks for being here, of course, as always,
56:39
one of our co -hosts. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. Heck
56:43
yeah. You hit that good. Nice. Joe, you can...
56:48
You can call mom now. I was just about to say,
56:50
might as well get your mom on the horn. Oh, she's
56:52
been waiting outside for the past 40 minutes.
56:54
Yeah, well, we got to go. This is supposed to
56:55
be a short one. Her and the police are outside.
56:58
Kev, as always, getting it done behind the cameras
57:01
and the microphones and the cables. Okay, yep.
57:05
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57:18
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57:21
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