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- 0:09Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from Newstalk ZB. Follow this
- 0:13Speaker 1: and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. Sam Dickey,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Fisher Funds is with us. Hello, Sam. Good evening here. Now,
- 0:20Speaker 1: we have America going to the polls in four weeks
- 0:22Speaker 1: for the midterms. What do you reckon is at stake
- 0:24Speaker 1: here for investors? Yes, November 3rd, every seat in the House,
- 0:30Speaker 1: about a third of the Senate and 35 to 40 governorships.
- 0:34Speaker 1: And the betting markets, the prediction markets have swung hard.
- 0:38Speaker 1: So the Democrats are now heavily favoured to take the House,
- 0:40Speaker 1: more than 90%. And in recent weeks, they have moved
- 0:44Speaker 1: from behind to favourites to take the Senate. And that's
- 0:48Speaker 1: largely because Trump's approval rating is less than 40%. And
- 0:51Speaker 1: that's pretty textbook that when a president's approval rating falls
- 0:56Speaker 1: so low, two years into the presidency, the president's party
- 1:00Speaker 1: usually gets punished. So the likely outcome is gridlock, a
- 1:04Speaker 1: president facing a lawmaking body, so the House and the Senate,
- 1:08Speaker 1: controlled by the opposition, which is not ideal for President Trump. No,
- 1:12Speaker 1: not at all. Do elections actually move markets? No, almost
- 1:17Speaker 1: never for any meaningful period. And we've talked about this before.
- 1:20Speaker 1: And the best example is Donald Trump himself. And in 2016,
- 1:24Speaker 1: the market was certain he would not win and certain
- 1:27Speaker 1: that in the unlikely event he did, stock markets would crash.
- 1:32Speaker 1: He won, and the U.S. market rose over 20% over
- 1:34Speaker 1: the next 12 months, the lesson being that politics is
- 1:38Speaker 1: often the loudest thing in the room, but usually the
- 1:41Speaker 1: least important thing for markets, ideally. Hasn't Trump changed that
- 1:45Speaker 1: in recent days? He certainly tried to move markets in
- 1:48Speaker 1: the last year or so, so a trade war, a
- 1:50Speaker 1: shooting war, oil near $ 100 and openly leaning on the
- 1:53Speaker 1: Federal Reserve, but yet share markets are near all-time highs
- 1:58Speaker 1: in the U.S., And that's because what actually drives markets
- 2:02Speaker 1: is much more boring. So it's corporate profits, interest rates,
- 2:05Speaker 1: and economic growth. And two of those three things, company
- 2:08Speaker 1: profits and economic growth, have been remarkably resilient. So what
- 2:12Speaker 1: does this mean for investors then? I think markets don't
- 2:17Speaker 1: really have a favourite party. They have a favourite outcome,
- 2:20Speaker 1: which is less uncertainty. And gridlock can actually deliver that.
- 2:24Speaker 1: So fewer big policy changes, fewer surprises. And... as you
- 2:29Speaker 1: and I have talked a lot about, watch the bond market.
- 2:32Speaker 1: America's $ 40 trillion of debt is critically important, much more
- 2:36Speaker 1: important than politics. And the fact that investors are demanding
- 2:39Speaker 1: higher interest rates to finance it is important. So a
- 2:42Speaker 1: divided Congress or a divided lawmaking apparatus makes another big
- 2:48Speaker 1: government spending splurge harder. So political paralysis could actually be
- 2:51Speaker 1: good news for bonds. So The next four weeks, look
- 2:54Speaker 1: out for an enormous amount of noise and probably very
- 2:58Speaker 1: little new information about long-term corporate profits which drive stock markets. Interesting. Hey,
- 3:02Speaker 1: thank you very much. As always, Sam, it's good to
- 3:04Speaker 1: talk to you. Sam Dickey of Fisher Funds.