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  Speaker 1: In this episode of Disguise Coverage, we will be diving
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  Speaker 1: into the Buffalo Bills free agency rankings and priorities in
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  Speaker 1: terms of which position groups need to be towards the
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  Speaker 1: top of the priority list, which players in those position groups,
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  Speaker 1: the hows and the whys behind it all. If you
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  Speaker 1: did not know, free agency is roughly about a week away.
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  Speaker 1: Next Monday, we'll start to get news starting to get
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  Speaker 1: noon of all the deals that are coming through. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: is official until Wednesday at four o'clock. But next Monday,
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  Speaker 1: the bullets will start flying in terms of deals that
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  Speaker 1: are going down, who's signing Awlayer for how much the
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  Speaker 1: house and whys and all that happening. So, with that
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  Speaker 1: being said, figured this episode kind of set us off
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  Speaker 1: into the sunset regarding free agency priorities and all of
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  Speaker 1: those things as we go through in this episode. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: RJ says free agency game up extra quick. That is true.
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  Speaker 1: Oh great comment here from Joe Jo says I would
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  Speaker 1: You're fantastic. Thank you for doing the lord's work here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: free agency did come quick, as our j said, And
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  Speaker 1: you know, before we know it, free agency will be here,
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  Speaker 1: the draft will be here, and then before we know it,
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  Speaker 1: rookie Minnieamp will be here the preseason and then we
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  Speaker 1: back in the regular season for the twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 1: But we Charles says, I'd like to order one Miles Garrett, please.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: That would be nice. I recognize Garrett. If I could
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  Speaker 1: pick someone to trade for, it would be Max Crosby,
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  Speaker 1: just not a personal preference, because I love his play
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  Speaker 1: style and what he is and how he goes about
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  Speaker 1: his business. So if I had to pick one, it
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  Speaker 1: would be Crosby. But obviously I would not complain to
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  Speaker 1: field Miles Garrett. And you could make the case that
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  Speaker 1: Garrett is probably the better player, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Crosby's awesome. So it fits what my brain wants, but
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  Speaker 1: it also fits with my heart wants, as Charles kind
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  Speaker 1: of just put into the comments there. For those of
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  Speaker 1: you playing at home live with us in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: or if you're watching later, listening later, whatever, have you
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  Speaker 1: put a comment in who you want the able to target,
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  Speaker 1: why you want them to target them, or if you
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  Speaker 1: think a certain position group needs to be the focus,
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  Speaker 1: or if you have a specific question. Again, for those
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  Speaker 1: of you riding live with us here, any question, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: put them up into the live chat. I will get
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  Speaker 1: to anything and everything as much as humanly possible throughout
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  Speaker 1: this episode. Super chats, of course get a priority because one,
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  Speaker 1: like a cat with a laser pointer, and it pulls
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  Speaker 1: me away from my notes. So what I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: doing here, I've got eight free agents that I've ranked,
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  Speaker 1: and I've also got a couple of honorable mentions and
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  Speaker 1: some little detail pieces with that. Some of these will
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  Speaker 1: tie into the film rooms that Eric and I have
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  Speaker 1: done in the film room the past. Couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: in terms of our offensive defensive priorities. We're not doing
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  Speaker 1: an individual wish list or rankings episode tomorrow. We're focusing
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  Speaker 1: on some players in relation to the Bills and how
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  Speaker 1: they're combined will affect their draft status, tying it into
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  Speaker 1: skill set, what we're seeing on tape, all of those things.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted to kind of put a nice bow
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  Speaker 1: on things from a free agency perspective for myself, thought
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  Speaker 1: it will be a nice fun episode. And again, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: if you like my rankings, if you hate them, if
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  Speaker 1: you've got questions on why I omitted someone else, or
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  Speaker 1: why I picked this guy, or why I prioritize this position,
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  Speaker 1: kind of going through there, put it up into the
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  Speaker 1: chat and I will go through things accordingly. R J says,
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  Speaker 1: what's the price difference between Garrett and Crosby. It probably
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make up the difference of talent between them. Crosby
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  Speaker 1: is great, Garrett may break Bruce's sack record, that's legendary.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine, oh man, I haven't looked at there
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  Speaker 1: or not, but I would imagine Garrett will cost more
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  Speaker 1: just because of the age. But you know, what's funny
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  Speaker 1: is I actually don't think they're I was looking this
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  Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: too far off. Miles Garrett is twenty nine and Max
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  Speaker 1: Crosby is twenty seven. Interesting, So that's a really fun
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  Speaker 1: fact that I just learned. Huh. Yeah, wow, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why I thought Crosby was older. Yeah, Max's twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: I think the price difference, I don't think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think Crosby being a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: younger doesn't necessarily skew things too much. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: just the overall production that you do get. For me,
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  Speaker 1: the big thing with Crosby is just how little he
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  Speaker 1: leaves the field, which, again you could make the case
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  Speaker 1: while he's got to proceee a rotation for the bills,
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  Speaker 1: so how much does that matter, YadA YadA, But him
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  Speaker 1: just really going like one hundred miles an hour, one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time, not really leaving the field,
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  Speaker 1: playing the run and the pass like he does. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the big thing is and I see your
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  Speaker 1: comment there, r J, and I'm going adding that into
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  Speaker 1: Argie says, I should say price difference being the trade value.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Garrett is two first round picks plus something else.
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  Speaker 1: Crosby maybe a first and next year's third. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's two pieces. One it's the price difference of the
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  Speaker 1: resources you have to allocate to get them from a
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  Speaker 1: trade perspective, but then also the financial commitment from a
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  Speaker 1: Garrett perspective, who's looking for a contract extension. So there's
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  Speaker 1: kind of two price differences in relation to Garrett. The
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  Speaker 1: price that you have to pay to acquire him and
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  Speaker 1: then the price that you have to pay to keep
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  Speaker 1: him in wherever he is long term. So there's two
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  Speaker 1: price differences really there for Garrett. But I think what's
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  Speaker 1: interesting with Crosby is how much he's been double teamed
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  Speaker 1: and never really having a true running mate there in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Putting him in Buffalo, ideally with Greg Russeau on the
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  Speaker 1: other side, that opens things up for Rousseau, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: it opens things up for Crosby, even with ad Oliver
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  Speaker 1: on the inside too. Just Crosby start to see more
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  Speaker 1: one on ones. I would just and this isn't even
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  Speaker 1: a Buffalo thing, but I would like to see Crosby
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere where he has a running mate where he's
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  Speaker 1: not the only guy on that line. They drafted Tyree
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  Speaker 1: Wilson a couple of seasons ago to be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: He really wasn't that they brought in Christian Wilkins. He
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  Speaker 1: was a nice boon to that line, but it's still
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  Speaker 1: really Crosby and friends, and it probably would be that
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo as well. But I think he's got an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to not have to just put everybody in his
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  Speaker 1: U haul or in his backpack every single week and
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  Speaker 1: have to play defense. So I do think it would
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  Speaker 1: be That's kind of like a big thing for me
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  Speaker 1: with Crosby, Like I don't know if we've really seen
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  Speaker 1: his maximum no pun intended production because of how much
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  Speaker 1: of a focal point he is for opposing offenses, because
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  Speaker 1: he's really been the only guy on that defense. But
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  Speaker 1: Artie says or and hear me out, we trade all
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  Speaker 1: our picks for both Garrett and Crosby. If one of
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  Speaker 1: them could play defensive tackle regularly, I guess you could
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  Speaker 1: put Garrett defensive tackle and then you're just all gas,
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  Speaker 1: no brakes, penetration, attack offenses, one gap, get upfield and
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  Speaker 1: kind of see what happens. But that would be very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Treck reviewer says, what do you think of prospect defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 1: tight end, fullback JJ? I always don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: pronounce his last name, Pegwist from ole Miss. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: watched this tape yet. Good question, but I haven't gotten
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  Speaker 1: there yet him. I watched Walter Nolan from ole Miss
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit of Princely from ole Miss as well,
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  Speaker 1: and Trey Amos, but I have not watched JJ. I
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  Speaker 1: will He's in my next group. I've kind of been
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  Speaker 1: rotating through different position groups, and then I get bored
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  Speaker 1: with certain position groups, I'll jump to another position group.
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  Speaker 1: My process is very arbitrary in terms of how I
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  Speaker 1: go through guys and teer them and what I do
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  Speaker 1: from a scouting perspective before I rank everybody. But I
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  Speaker 1: will get to him every pretty much every defensive line,
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  Speaker 1: and I need to look at because defensive line is
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  Speaker 1: a priority. That is a nice segue into kind of
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  Speaker 1: my focus and first piece for the free agency rankings
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  Speaker 1: if we're looking at this team right now and again.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to put this within the backdrop of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the conversation I think has always had around
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  Speaker 1: free agency of you know, put money into this or
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  Speaker 1: sign this guy, or go after this position in free
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  Speaker 1: agency and then take this other guy in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: or go after this position in the draft. And my
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  Speaker 1: big thing with all that is that sounds nice and
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  Speaker 1: it is ideal, but you can never guarantee how the
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  Speaker 1: draft boards are going to fall, even from a positional standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: If you think, like, okay, say you love the defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles in this class, and you're saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: they don't really have to adjust defensive tackle and free
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  Speaker 1: agency because they can get a great one at thirty
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  Speaker 1: and they can get another one one with their first
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  Speaker 1: second round pick or their second second round pick, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to do. Maybe the board doesn't fall that way,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe the guys that you thought were gonna be
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  Speaker 1: perfect and they're at thirty suddenly aren't there. And now
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  Speaker 1: the best guys that are there are a corner or
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  Speaker 1: an edge, or maybe it's a wide receiver or maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a safety or something like that. So I say
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  Speaker 1: all that to say, the free agency aspect of things,
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  Speaker 1: I'm using this as if they need to feel like
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  Speaker 1: as a right now, like what they need to fill
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  Speaker 1: right now? What are the biggest holes where are they,
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  Speaker 1: why do they exist? How can they be addressed? That's
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  Speaker 1: how I'm attacking free agency right now. From that perspective,
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  Speaker 1: and from a Bills perspective, we know Brandon Bean likes
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  Speaker 1: to fill as many holes as possible in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: That way they can really go best player available in
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  Speaker 1: the draft. And what I think is really exciting if
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  Speaker 1: you're a Bills fan is the positions of need for
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  Speaker 1: this team. Defensive tackle, edge, corner, safety maybe to a degree,
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  Speaker 1: maybe wide receiver one of those, if not multiple, if
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  Speaker 1: not really all of them is going to have somebody
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  Speaker 1: suite available. Will pick thirty, and it just depends on
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  Speaker 1: are they a scheme fit? Are is the value right?
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  Speaker 1: What have you done in free agency? How do you
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  Speaker 1: balance everything else? So on and so forth. But I
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  Speaker 1: think there will be a really nice player. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say this and jinx it, so my fingers
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  Speaker 1: are crossed here, but I don't want to jinx the
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  Speaker 1: al out of that. But there will be really nice
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  Speaker 1: pieces available to help the Bills at thirty. But from
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  Speaker 1: a free agency conversation perspective, for my priorities and rankings
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  Speaker 1: right now, if we're talking about the needs for this team,
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  Speaker 1: I addressed it from what do you have to do
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  Speaker 1: in free agency? And there will be some caveats to
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  Speaker 1: some pieces. I will sit here and say like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's have you know my idea is to
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  Speaker 1: sign this guy and then draft someone in this range
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  Speaker 1: at this point, you know, kind of pair things together.
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  Speaker 1: But that draft is never a guarantee. You never know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you are going to get. So I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to address things as they need to be
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  Speaker 1: addressed right now on this team. And with that being said,
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  Speaker 1: I was going back and forth and debating if I
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  Speaker 1: should start with number one or if I should start
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  Speaker 1: with number eight. But I'm going to start with number one.
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  Speaker 1: Save the best for first is what we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do right now. And this should be no surprise if
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  Speaker 1: you watch the film Room, if you listen to me
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  Speaker 1: on the show, if you follow me on Twitter, this
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  Speaker 1: position shouldn't really be a surprise, and this player shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: really be a surprise. Also, I'm seeing some several comments
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  Speaker 1: that are coming through. I will be pulling those up
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  Speaker 1: after kind of do it after each person that I
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  Speaker 1: talk about here. So this first person, mister DJ Jones,
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  Speaker 1: defensive tackle from the Denver Broncos formerly of the San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, and this is twofold one. I
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  Speaker 1: think defensive tackle is the biggest need on this team
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  Speaker 1: right now, not even from a player standpoint. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't like at Oliver, if you don't like Daikwon Jones,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't like Dwayne Carter, if you know, if
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  Speaker 1: that's your thought process, I'm not even taking that into
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  Speaker 1: account right now. They need, they really need four defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 1: They've got two. And I'm saying that too, not to
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  Speaker 1: be disrespectful to Dwayne Carter, but I'm not counting Dwayne Carter.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I know, pardon me. I know Joe
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  Speaker 1: DeRosa in the chat loves Dayne Carter, so will forgive
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  Speaker 1: me for this, Joe. But I never give a full
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  Speaker 1: concrete judgment on players until after year three. But Carter
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  Speaker 1: was super disappointing. It's a freaking Joe Just's pain in
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  Speaker 1: all gaps. Carter was super disappointing as a rookie, both
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  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher and as a run defender, just
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  Speaker 1: constantly getting blown off the ball, not really having any impact.
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  Speaker 1: A pastor's productivity of around four I believe, which is
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  Speaker 1: just really, really, really bad. You saw some flashes against
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  Speaker 1: Houston and it was like, oh, okay, And I know
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  Speaker 1: the injury may have potentially derailed him, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: completely writing him off in any way, shape or form,
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  Speaker 1: right although I do think he is somewhat closer to
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  Speaker 1: his ceiling already now than he is further away from it,
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  Speaker 1: which is another scary notion with him. But that being said,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at this defensive tackle right in this
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  Speaker 1: defective defensive tackle room right now, who's on the team,
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  Speaker 1: who being paid? Who's in this group? It's ed Oliver,
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  Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones, Dwayne Carter, Zion Loge, and Branson Dean. If
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at it, you really have your top three
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  Speaker 1: in the rotation of ed Oliver, Daikwon Jones, and Dwayne Carter.
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  Speaker 1: I still like Daikwon Jones. I think he had a
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  Speaker 1: better year last year than he's being given credit for.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was a drop off in effectiveness and production,
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  Speaker 1: especially compared to twenty twenty three, But again twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: before he went down, he was playing it legitimately, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, an all pro level. What he was doing
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  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. What he was doing as a
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  Speaker 1: run defender was a tier S tier higher whatever is
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  Speaker 1: your top tier. In twenty twenty three, I think he
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  Speaker 1: had a better year, especially on tape, than he got
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  Speaker 1: credit for. I think a lot of the positives that
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  Speaker 1: he had and the good reps that he made that
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  Speaker 1: were on tape, I think some of them flew under
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  Speaker 1: the radar a bit. So I do think he had
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  Speaker 1: a better year then he's being given credit for. But
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  Speaker 1: I think at this point he's better suited as the
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  Speaker 1: defensive tackle three. And if Daikwon Jones is your defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle three, if you can get someone to be a
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  Speaker 1: running mate with Ed Oliver, then I think you're in
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  Speaker 1: a really good spot. That's what DJ Jones would be,
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  Speaker 1: And especially from a run defense standpoint eleven point three
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  Speaker 1: run stop percentage last year, that was fourth in the league.
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  Speaker 1: What he is inside a little bit from my scouting report,
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  Speaker 1: violence and juice. Inside. He's more athletic than he gets
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  Speaker 1: credit for. He plays with good leverage and lean. He's
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  Speaker 1: able to hold his ground and anchor versus the run.
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  Speaker 1: He can limit displacement versus double teams and also win
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  Speaker 1: against them. You'll see him drop that knee and kind
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  Speaker 1: of shimmy his way through and cause some disruption with penetration.
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  Speaker 1: He pairs good hand usage, and when I say good
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  Speaker 1: hand usage, I mean both in terms of the placement
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  Speaker 1: and the pop and the strength in them. He pairs
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  Speaker 1: good hand usage with play diagnosis and recognition to disrupt,
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  Speaker 1: oh fourteen minutes in first flow man to disrupt blocking
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  Speaker 1: schemes and shed blocks. You will see him engage and
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  Speaker 1: peak and see a double team come and he'll drop
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  Speaker 1: that knee. You will see him go forward and see
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  Speaker 1: a down block coming and work opposite it. You will
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  Speaker 1: see him attack or read the running backs track and
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  Speaker 1: then operate accordingly. Just how he plays against the run
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  Speaker 1: really high level. And then he displays a high level
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: of competitive toughness and play strength. If you are the Bills,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: and this isn't even necessarily unique to the Bills, but
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: obviously we're focusing on the Bills here. If you are
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the Bills and you want to play numbers and coverage,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and you want a light box, and you want to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: play nickel, and you want to have your linebackers be
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Matt Malono and Terre Bernard, who are both on the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: smaller side, of things, especially Terreau Bernard. You need guys
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: up front who can win upfront. You need guys who
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: cannot displace get displaced. This is my biggest thing. And
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: for those who don't know, displacement is just getting moved
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: off the ball. Can happen in two ways. You can
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: get displaced vertically north and south, so literally like driven back.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Or you can get displaced horizontally east and west and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: knocked you know, sideways, knocked over a couple of gaps
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the hole opens that way.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That was happening too much on the interior of the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Bills defensive line in twenty twenty four. Happened to Dwayne Carter.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: A ton happened to Austin Johnson, A ton happened to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips Ton, Quentin Jefferson wasn't really on the field
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: to kind of get run defense snaps, but it happened
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: to him a little bit as well. Didn't happen to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Daikwan too much, but you weren't really seeing too much
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: effectiveness aside from that, and then ed Oliver's play style
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: time from time time, Yeah, from time to time, just
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: because of his play style upfield, one gap penetrating. You're
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: gonna see him kind of get knocked a little bit,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen as much as you think. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Ed is a solid run defender. He's better player than
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: he's gotten credit for a lot of times. In Bill's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Mafia Circles, had a great game in the AFC Championship
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Really was strong upfront against the run
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and the pass in Kansas City there. Give him a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: running mate. DJ Jones is that guy. Gives you a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of juice and pop. As a pass rusher,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he can compress the pocket, he can knock some dudes back,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: but just that strength as a run defender to occupy
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: blockers to win one on ones, you need guys up
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: front that can win one on ones and also be
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a force multiplier and protect other guys and have a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: positive domino effector chain reaction effect on the defense. DJ
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Jones is that guy. His average annual average annual value
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: per spot Track right now is eleven point two. I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to get that. I'd be comfortable
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: giving him any anywhere kind of pushing double digits. I'll
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: give him nine. I'll give him ten if it's a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: one or two year deal. I think he is signif
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I think this role in this type of player is
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: significantly important to the Bill's defense. Now, if you could
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: guarantee me that they could fill this role in the draft,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I would take that. But again, there's no guarantee that
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the guys you want there are going to be there
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: one two. There is the idea of kind of having
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that known quantity DJ Jones represent That represents that. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: even if you have somebody who you love is a prospect,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't care who it is, from the from you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: whoever is number one on your big board, all the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: way to whoever's last, it's still a projection. There are
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: no known quantities in the draft. Prospects are still prospects
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: are very much the mystery boat and family guy. So
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: will I want the known quantity. I want somewhat of
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: an assurance in terms of what the Bills are going
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to get, and then using that as the starting point,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I think DJ Jones is the closest thing to a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: kind of a splash that the Bills would make in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: free agency. I think they can, and they can. This
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: isn't even I think they can afford somebody around a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: double digit average annual value. Could be a corner, could
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman, it could be an edge, could
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: be defensive tackle. However, you kind of want to slice
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that up. But Jones for me would be the splash
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: or the splurge financially because of the force multiplication. And
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he's just good as an individual player. Having a guy
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: on the inside who can just win these one on
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: ones and handle double teams and not get knocked off
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the ball is going to be a tremendous additive to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that defensive line and then force multiplier to the rest
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of the defense. It gives them the opportunity to succeed
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with light boxes and keep numbers in coverage and have
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that benefit. And if you can defend the run from
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: two high coverages and defend the run with light boxes
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and keep numbers in coverage as much as possible. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: when I say numbers in coverage, I mean if you're
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, doing things with lighter boxes, you got more
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: guys on the back end. It gives you the opportunity
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to have more bodies and coverage. Then the offense can
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: put out into the route distribution. If you have the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: numbers advantage. Sometimes it's just basic math. If you've got
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: seven guys in coverage versus what five guys out in
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the route distribution, that's an advantage every time. And sometimes
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: there's not five, sometimes there's four, sometimes there's three. So
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you kind of go from there. R J said, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if you told the type out here. You
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: said Ed didn't have an amazing AFC Championship game. He
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was also being choked out and held on almost every
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: single plates and saying he did what he was able
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to do in that game. I don't know if your
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: didn't was a typo and was supposed to be did.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I thought he had a very good game. Penetration against
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the pass, penetration against the run, taking on blockers, shedding guys. Again,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: he wasn't going up against Tony this time. I forget
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: who was even there at left card for them, because
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they had Tony at left tackle. But I thought he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: had a really strong game and flash a ton within that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Charles saying DJ is going to be Yeah, that's kind
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: of the like again, the top tier would be of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that level. I don't think they're gonna spend money on
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: got someone who's gonna be like fifteen sixteen average annual value.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I think it would be okay. R J Stid said, sorry,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I did have amazing g dick you argie. I I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: was like, I know you're usually very not even usually
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you are very pessimistic, but I was like, really even here,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, he had a really good game. Okay,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to clarify. That's the only reason
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I did. I figured it was a typo, but knowing
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you as a person, I wanted to make sure. But yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and to go back to Charles's comment, Yeah, I think
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: DJ would kind of be that that that's what a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: splash is gonna be. Maybe they go crazy and they
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: signed Sweat or they do something a little bit out
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of the box. But I want to keep this realistic.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do too much and say, if
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they do these ten moves, they can open up like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars worth of cap space and they could
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: sign this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. You
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: want to keep it somewhat realistic, and I think DJ
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Jones is that type of splash that could be had
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: on the market there. That's my first one. Number two
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: is also so on the defensive line. Number two for
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: me is Dante Fowler, junior edge defender of the Washington
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Commanders so last season, and then from several of the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: teams before that, the Cowboys, the Falcons at some point.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Again another conversation piece on the defensive line. If we
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: are looking at edge right now, the edges on the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: roster right now. Von Miller, Greg Russo, a Japanessa, Javon Solomon.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I do like Javon Solomon. I think he had encouraging
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: moments as a rookie. I would like to see what
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: he can do in year two. I don't want to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: bank on seeing what he can do in year two.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Hope is not a plan. I don't want to operate
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in that way. Von Miller, I think he had a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: fine year last year. He really kind of played to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: what my expectations were. I thought he would be like
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a high end three load to mid tier edge two
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: at times, and I think he was that for the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: majority of the year. Was I think a lot of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: his wins and successes came against the run, which wasn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: talked about enough. And I think some of his advanced
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: metrics from a pass rush perspective were blown up a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: little bit from a positivity standpoint, especially the playoff ones.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But again, I think he had a fine year. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: talked about this on the Salary Cap Extravaganza show. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: don't like what he's being paid. He doesn't have a
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: lot of leverage on the market. I think Brandon Bean
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and company should approach him for a pay cut if
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he's not willing to take that pay cut. I know
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: it sucks and there's a lot of dead cap inherited
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: with it, but I am voting for the von Miller
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: cut aspect. But whether Von stays, whether Von goes, whatever
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: have you. I think this edge grouping needs more athleticism.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They need more juice. They need more dudes who can
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just hunt. And I liked the Leonard Floyd signing a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I like the idea of bringing
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in a known mercenary off the edge. I would take
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that anywhere, really on the defensive line and follower is that,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: especially as a pass rusher. Even if you want to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: kee Von Miller, that's fine. I'll take another dude with
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: juice and ben and athleticism. Vaughn isn't that same level
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that he was when he signed here, but he's still
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: more in that mold than Rousseau or Apanessa are some
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: pieces for Dante Fowler. Last year, he was sixteenth out
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty two qualifying edges in pass
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: rus productivity. He was tied for twelfth in the league
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: in sacks with ten point five. He was tied for
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: thirty eighth out of those one hundred and twenty two
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: edges in total pressures. He brings juice and athleticism. He
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: is a slasher getting to the quarterback. He wins with
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that juice in athleticism, that slashing style, and also his hands.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He's not a pocket compressor, which again is an outlier.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The Bills love pocket compression at the edge spot, but
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I do think that's needed and maybe they are moving
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit in that direction. Given to Von Solomon,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: given von Miller, we'll see he can get a bit
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: over aggressive at times, particularly versus the run, which will
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: leave himself a bit out of position. But he does
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: play the run with effort, and again I'm trying to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: use him more in known passing situations known downs as
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a just an assassin off the edge when they need him.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: He's really good with those bootleg, counter and reverse responsibilities.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You'll see him come off the edge and see what's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: going on. Is the ball coming back his way as
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: somebody cutting back? Is the quarterback booting out? And then
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism to chase them down and do
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: something about it. He displays a good surf technique. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: broke down several plays on Twitter, but can watch Washington
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: play Baltimore last year and Baltimore's running the read option
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and he's using that surf technique and he sees Lamar
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: keeps it and Lamar takes off to the sideline and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Follower takes a good angle and with his athleticism is
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: able to make him really go horizontal. He chases Lamar
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: down and he brings him down, And that athleticism to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: close down on mobile qbs in space is a really
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: nice piece. He can also rush from either side, So
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: if you want to put him with Groot or Epanessa
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: or Vaughn or whoever the hell whatever side is their
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: best side, he can operate from either side. He's effective
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: on stunts and slants and games. He's crafty as a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: spiker and as a looper. He knows how to game
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: up tackles and guards. He knows how to clear space
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: for his running mates and also kind of work off
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of that and use that space against offensive linemen. He's
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: got good situational awareness and play recognition. You'll see him
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: calling out adjustments based on offensive formation and alignment. Really
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: good snap timing and anticipation, especially off motion. You'll see
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: him kind of he and figure out what's going on,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, after doing that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, or in the first half, in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the second half of games, or in high leverage situations,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he's using that snap timing and anticipation and he's shooting
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: gaps or he's just jumping through right as the ball
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: snaped and he's breaking through, and he's making a tackle
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: on a full back dive right as the quarterback is
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: handing the ball off good rush transitions, you know, first
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: touch to rip or spin or swipe. He's able to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: flatten with core strength. He is kind of that guy
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: for me of again an assassin or a mercenary at
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that edge spot. And I also, again I'm going to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: continue to clamor for this every single year. They need
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: more juice and athleticism off the edge. Pocket compression is nice, Well,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you need some dudes with some kind of bend, some
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: kind of athleticism, some kind of change of direction. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think the edge grouping is very much like the wide
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: receiver room in terms of you need a basketball lineup there,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and the Bill's edge grouping is pretty much just power
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: forwards at this point and some small forwards. You need
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: some point guards or two guards. You need some slashers,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you need something like that. His average annual value per
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: spot track is only five point two million dollars. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: would gladly, gladly, gladly gladly pay that, but my thought
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: is that he might not get that much. Again, that's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: more of like a hope than anything. Potentially, but he
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is coming off of a where my contract detail notes
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he's coming off a one year, three point twenty five
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: million dollar deal with the Commanders. So he had a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: good year last year, so I could see that spiking
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: up to five. Maybe he signs he's thirty years old.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He'll be thirty one this August, so maybe he signs
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a two year, ten million dollar deal and that pushes
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: up to eleven or twelve. Either way, I don't think
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that is too expensive, given the juice that he provides
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and the need that he fills on this team. Again,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you need you need somebody who can give you some
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: kind of edge one ability as a pass rusher. I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if Foulwer is necessarily that. Again, the sacks
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and the pressures and the productivity will kind of give
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that to you. I think, you know, he's more of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a high end two as a pass rusher, or maybe
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a low tier one on his best day. But that's fine.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Paranom with Greg Russo, who I think is an edge
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: two as a pass rusher and obviously a one as
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a run defender, and that just bullies the room. So
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: whether it's Fowler and von and Groot and Epanessa and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Solomon or Von goes and Fowler takes Vonn's spot, we
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: kind of go from there. I think I would like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that very much, very much. David says signed Chase Young.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He's only twenty five years old. I just think Chase
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Young is gonna get paid big time on the open market.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't develop into the player people thought
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he was going to be coming out of Ohio State,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: but you know, even his time with Washington and then
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: San Francisco and then the Saints of this past year
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: there are some real positives that you see on tape.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But I think he's going to get paid more because
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: of that that piece, the age, the traits that are
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: still there. I think you're going to see some team
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: give him, Oh, I don't know, like twelve to fifteen million.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think he gets more. Maybe some team really
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: kind of overshoots and gives that to him. But I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: don't think the Bills have that financial flexibility, And if
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: they do, I don't want them to do it for
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Chase Young. But I mean, if his market value isn't
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: what it is, I would take again athleticism and youth
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and juice, you know, in some moves and plan. I'll
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: take that. But I think the known quantity of Fouler,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the age, the veteran experience, what he brings to the room,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and the cost, all of this is relative to cost.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That's really kind of why I'm sticking there on Fowler.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Noah say, how about a flyer on de Marcus Lawrence.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I like Lawrence. I just don't know how great the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: fit is and what he is now at this point,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I especially coming from Dallas's defense and how he operated
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: there having some injury concerns the past couple of years. Again,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: if it's a flyer and it's a cheap flyer, I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: don't mind. I just want more known quantities on this
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: defensive line. So I don't hate that idea. I just
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: think Fouler tracks better and fits better and is more
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of a cleaner fit and need and given everything that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he is, and I think Fowler again. Edge is another conversation,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: similar to defensive tackle, of there's some really good edges
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: in this draft class. What if one falls at thirty one,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: if one falls in the second round, you know both
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of their second round picks, they don't have a third,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and then they have a fourth. I would love that too.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: There's several really good edges I like in this draft class.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I just don't know who's going to be there and when,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: especially with how some of these guys have tested at
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the combine. We'll see how their pro days come out.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: But there's some really good tape on some dudes. This
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: draft class is very deep on the defensive line, both
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: especially in the interior defensive tackle. But I do think
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: an edge as well. But stylistic fit is so important
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and schematic fit is so important as well, So I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: would like to address that. Now, get yourself a known quantity,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and if somebody falls at thirty, fantastic. If somebody falls
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: in the second round, that's fantastic. I will take a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: There is never a downside to having too many good
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: players on your defensive line similar to the offense line.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I will never have a problem drafting offensive line or
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: drafting defensive line unless it's Boogie Basham. You know. Sorry
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: for taking advantage of that low hanging fruit there, but yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Follower is very much another drop in that bucket of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you know, turning that edge grouping into a basketball lineup.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see if they continue to move
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in that direction with some of the moves they made
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the past couple of years, or is it more just
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: sprinklings of athleticism within the pocket, compression in size and length,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: type of conversation, and aspects. So I'm very interested to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: see kind of how that schematic archetype continues to trend.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: But Follower is somebody who takes a lot of boxes
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: for me. Ooh Roy says Epanessa is better than Chase
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Young as a pass rusher. I don't think so, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, Chase Young is not expectation, which
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: is unfortunate. Coach Chapman says, the Bills see the advantage
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of the athletic edgebender to go with their pocket compressors.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: They have shown the adjustment with getting Bomb and Floyd
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and Solomon. They want a mix, I believe, yeah, I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: could see that. I don't know if they necessarily want
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: more of a mix or do they Again is it
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: just those smatterings or are they trying to bring more
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: balance to it. I am interested to see kind of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: what they do within that this offseason. David says, maybe
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Hoyt from the Rams. It's funny, maybe Michael Hoyt will
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: be on this list. Who knows he is actually coming
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: up in a little bit. So yeah, again, give me
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: an assassin off the edge with some juice, some athleticism,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: some bend. A known quantity follower is that he is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a proven pass rusher with productivity. He adds what I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: would like to see added to this edge grouping, and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: he's got the track record in pedigree to kind of
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: go with it, which I think would be a really
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: nice boost and add to this grouping. Number three, this
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is someone that I don't think is gonna get talked
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: about a lot. He's a favorite of mine in this
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: free agent class because of cost and because of role
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that he will occupy. It is Roy Lopez, defensive tackle
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals. Played some straight up nose tackle
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: right over the center when the Cardinals will be in
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: their odd front type of looks. But he does have
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: some one tech experience. He's just a straight up plugger,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: uses his hands and leverage to keep himself clean and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: discard blockers again, displacement, displacement, displacement. He doesn't get displaced
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: horizontally or vertically. Even against double teams. You can see
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: him drop the knee, He'll reduce his surface area. He's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: able to hold his ground again similarly similarly to DJ Jones,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: hold his ground with lean and leverage. Also, like DJ Jones,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the ability to recognize blocking schemes, polars, doubles, down blocks, etc.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You are seeing him come off the line, off the snap,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: read what's happening in front of him, or read what's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: happening around him peripherally and act accordingly. And despite the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: fact that he's a bigger dude and a plugger in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: round three hundred and twenty pounds, he has enough burst
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and juice on the snap to be effective enough upfield.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: He's got enough lateral explosion to go from a gap
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to a gap. He's able to make plays laterally versus
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the roane, versus the rone. Oh make plays laterally versus
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: zone runs. You'll watch him kind of shoot the back
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: door and chase something down to the sideline. You'll watch
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: him run dudes down on tuttle screens. Overall, though, he
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: does have minimal pass rush pop. This isn't a big
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: moves guy. If he's winning, it's either with a push
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: pull or you know, you'll watch him get off the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: line with some good explosion. He'll shake a little bit
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and then he'll rip and he'll get into the backfield again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It's not just pure huge mountain of a man. Stick
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: him in the middle and just have him occupied bodies
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and he won't give you anything. He is skewed more
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: towards the run. I would say it's like seventy thirty
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: or seventy five twenty five, but I think that's fine.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: He is more of the rotational guy in an ideal world.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So this will probably mean if you're signing Roy Lopez,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Daikon is probably your starter, or maybe Roy
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Lopez is getting worked into some starter reps at some point.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I think Daikon gives you more of some pass rush pops.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So maybe Daikwan is the three guy or a third
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: man in the rotation. However you want to kind of
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: work through that. I know the Bills, and this is
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: even within my philosophy a little bit as well. The
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Bills like their interior defenders to be able to play
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the but also get to the quarterback. They want guys
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: who again I use this phrasing all the time. We
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: say it on the film room, say it on social
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. One gap penetrating guys, guys who
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: can get upfield. They want, not necessarily at Oliver, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: guys like that. They want guys who get upfield and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: get into their gaps. Attack. You know you're responsible for
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: this gap on the snap, Get off, go hunt, get it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: They don't lean towards kind of pluggers. And you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I would have taken ilan Ku last year because of
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: their struggles to kind of hold up against the run
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: on the interior. But Ilianku doesn't really give you any
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: pass rush pop, so that's why they kept him on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the practice squad. My argument with that, though, is despite
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: him not giving you pass rush pop, I didn't think
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: anyone else's combinations of pass rush pop and run defense
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was doing anything. Like Austin Johnson wasn't helping you as
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher or as a run defender. Dayne Carter
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't helping you as a pass rusher or a run defender.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So even though Ilianku is skewed like ninety nine to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: one in terms of run defense, I would have taken
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that because at least it's somebody who's effective at something.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Roy Lopez is in that mold, but a little bit
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: more athletic, does have the ability to get to affect
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the quarterback and compress the pocket. Again, he can get upfield,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: can penetrate a little bit. But this is somebody who's
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: trying to go through dudes and he's going to defend
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the run. He is going to occupy blockers up front.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: He will keep your second level defenders clean by disrupting
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: flow and gum up the works. He can one gap,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he can play gap in a half, he can play
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: two gap. So I really do think there's a lot
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of potential for him. His average annual value is three
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: point five million which I would or projected average annual
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: value is three point five million, which I would gladly
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: sign him for right now. I do think he can
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: be a valuable piece. He's coming off of a contract
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: with the Cardinals for two years two million dollars, so
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that's an average annial salary of like one million. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: think he could be had for even less than three
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: point five. I think he's a good rotational body, a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: good rotational piece, somebody to plug the middle, plug the interior,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: who can also get a little bit sidelined a sideline,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: also get a little bit Upfield's nasty. This is somebody
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: who just there needs to be more you know, sandpaper,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: more grit, more tenacity, more violent and anger on the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: interior of the defensive line here, and I think Roy
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Lopez is a big move in that direction. Charles asked
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: if there's any wide receivers on the list. Yes, there is.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that as we start to go forward. Yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: so Roy Lopez is a big favorite of mine just
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: because I like his play style, I like his tape,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and I like the cost. And again the only downside
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is he is more rotational. DJ Jones, I think if
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you signed him he's a starter. You plug him in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: right away. Daikwon Jones becomes the third man in the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: rotation behind Ed and DJ Jones. I think if you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: signed Lopez, it's still more day Kwon and Ed and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: then Roy Lopez. But I could see a world where
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Roy Lopez is the starter just because of how good
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: he's going to be against the run and how much
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of a force multiplier he is. And so if we
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: also go within that conversation, these first three options defensive
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: line defense. This is where I think the majority of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the work needs to be done. This offense was very
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: good last year. I think there's some little tweaks that
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: can happen offensively that can be addressed in free agency
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in the draft, But good chunk of this list is defense.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And then starting off again, three defensive linemen, because I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: think the defensive line needs to be retooled. And even
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: if you're not even just talking about retooling of the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: defensive line, they just need bodies at this point, like
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: they just don't have a rotation or a stable of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: dudes ready to go and get it on the defensive line.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: So that defensive line needs focus and needs work. This
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: next pick is going to be a shout out to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: David who earlier said maybe Hoyt from the Rams, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: my number four is Mike Hoyt Edge from the Los
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Eric and I talked about him a couple
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: of weeks in the film room. He's coming off one year,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: two point nine to eighty five million dollar deal. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: think he could be had for something similar with the Bills.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: My big thing with him is his versatility and his
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: skill set, his play style, on his tenacity, I think
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: he gives you a bit more of a flexible chess
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: piece on your defensive line. He caught my eye a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: bunch this year just watching RAMS tape. I always watch
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of Rams offensive tape every year, is because
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I like to study Sean mcvahin and see what he's doing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: But defensively, they have some players who I really, really
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: really like. I loved Kobe Turner coming out a couple
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of years ago from Wake Forest, so I watched the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Rams from time to time to see what he's doing.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: The Rams drafted Cam Kitchens Safety from Miami last year,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: so I wanted to watch them see how he was doing.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And then Jared Vers was just crushing numbers and stats
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: every week, and dude, so I was watching RAMS tape
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: throughout the year and probably watched about six or seven
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: games of RAMS tape throughout the year, and even before
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: getting into free agency and doing studying an individual kind
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of evaluation, so I already had a good bank of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: RAMS defense stuff in my brain and in my notes.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And even when you're watching for something else, Hoyt is
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: just always flashing and the first thing, and not always flashing,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but flashing a bunch in each game. And the thing
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that really caught me was how he was flashing. Sometimes
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he's coming off the edge and it's a pass rush rep.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he's coming off the edge and it's a run
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: defense rep. Sometimes he's lined up in the A gap,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: sometimes he's dropping into coverage in the hook curls or
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the flats. Like He's just used all over the place.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And part of that is the RAMS defense and what
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: they're able to do, and the Bills wi't necessarily operate
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: with the same schematic structure, but I like what hoy
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: can do. And if you know, we're trying to lean
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: into some more simulated pressures and some creeper pressures, you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: want defensive linemen, especially edges who can rush a quarterback
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and also can maybe drop into coverage from time to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: try and drop in is like a you know, a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: robber underneath or a low hole player, I should say,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: or drop to the hook to curls play some zone
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and not be completely lost out there in space, but
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: then also have the ability to rust a quarterback play
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the run, do traditional defensive lineman stuff. Ooh could comment
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: there from David saying a big Byron Young fan from
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, he's a they just they hit out
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: so many dudes up front on that defensive line. We're
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: really good for them. And I just like what Hoyt
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: brings the tenacity, the chest piece ability, the athleticism. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: think he's a smart dude. I think he can function
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: in a variety of roles, in a variety of situations
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and leverage spots depending on what you want to do.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: He's got good hand usage and he uses that to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: his benefit. Just good motor on top of it as well.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy who ticks a lot of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: boxes from a cost effective standpoint, But then also somebody
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: who can wear a lot of hats. You can line
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: them up inside and known passing downs and distances again,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: simulated pressures, creepers, what you can do with him, where
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you can move them around, how you can deploy him,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and then what he brings from a mentality standpoint, a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: play style, size, athleticism frame all of this in one
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he I think kind of ticks those boxes of trying
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to add more to the basketball lineup at defensive line,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: but also just increasing your overall versatility or adding to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the basketball lineup at the edge grouping, i should say,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: but also just adding more to your overall versatility and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: then helping the defense out schematically as well. I do
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: want to see this team move towards more simulated pressures,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: more creepers, disguising more of their fronts like they do
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: coverage on the back end. I'd like to see some
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: more creativity on the back end in general, but they
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: do do some of that on the back I'd like
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that more upfront. I would like more pressure packages and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: different looks on third downs and known passing situations to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: confuse offenses. And Hoyt is a move in that direction
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: because he could rush from the outside, he could rush
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: from the inside, he could drop into coverage, he could
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: drop into coverage, and the hook to curl. He could
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: drop from the curl the flat. He could just be
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a low hole player. You could have the spy your QB.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: That depending on how athletic or mobile the QB is.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: That's the type of athleticism that he brings. So he's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a big move in that direction for me. And again,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think the cost is going to be too much.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: These next two players a little more on the expensive
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: side from an anticipated market value, but I don't think
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: they're going to get it on the open market. And
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I will tell you why. So Number five cornerback Sante
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Samuel Junior from the Los Angeles Chargers. So I want
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to address one thing first. If the Bills go corner
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: in free agency, I likely think it will somebody be
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: somebody that is more cost effective and more in line
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to kind of battle with a rookie corner for a
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: starting spot. For example, when we talked in the film
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: room a couple of weeks ago, I think, like a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: corner that makes a lot of sense schematically, but also
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: from a price standpoint and like realism standpoint, like Benjamin
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Saint Juice. I think you signed Saint Juice. And then
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: maybe if a really good corner falls to thirty, you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: draft them, or you take a corner in round two.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: They battle it out. If they don't, you still got
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Saint juice as you're three or your four, depending on
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: what you think of Kyer Elam. Either way help bully
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the room a little bit. I think the most realistic
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: corner option, because again, the Bills need a corner two,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and this is being talked about a little more as
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: we've gone forward in this offseason. They need a corner two.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm still not completely out on Kyer Elam, although I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: do not have high hopes. I didn't really like his
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: fit coming out of Florida. I didn't even really like
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: him as a prospect. I thought he was too grabby
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: despite the athleticism in the traits. But you know, hey,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I thought if anybody could kind of coach him out
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of it, it would be the Bills. It appears they
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: could not, So I'm not necessarily out on Elam, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I am. I don't have really any confidence in him
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: at this point. So maybe he can turn it around
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: with new coaches in the Bill again, like we had
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: this conversation last year, But I definitely am not ready
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to have him as the CB two conversation. I'm kind
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of okay with him being CB three. I'd rather him
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: be CB four. But I say all that to say
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I think them addressing the corner room this offseason likely
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: comes in the form of signing a very cost effective
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: corner who can give you some corner two reps opposite
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of Christian Benford, and then you draft someone on day
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: one or day two. You have that competition and go
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: from there. The reason I bring up a Sante Samuel Jr.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Is because of what he offers and what his anticipated
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: costs would be. So his market value on spot track
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Is eleven point five million dollars average annual value. I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: don't think he is going to get that. I see him.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Some of these contracts are super inflated. And again, I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: know corners sometimes get overpaid, but with his size and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: his frame and one issue in particular that I'm going
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about here, but why could be course corrected.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So again I'm kind of talking about both sides of
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: my mouth a little bit. I don't think he's gonna
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: get eleven million dollar a half million dollars average a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: new value. I could see him pushing like nine. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: really do think eight is more in line there. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: could see him getting three years twenty four million, two
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: years sixteen million, something like that. The reason I want
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: him is what he offers the bills from a coverage standpoint,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and his skill set being added to that secondary. First
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: of all, he's sticky in man coverage. He understands leverage
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and help. He doesn't play a ton of press, but
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: he's comfortable in press both you know, press right at
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the line, and comfortable in offman coverage as well, so
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: pressman and offman. When he's pressing, it's usually that soft,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: soft shoe press, so he's mirroring. He's not necessarily getting
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on the line and jamming guys and re routing. He's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: using more body presence and footwork to press. He keeps
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: his eyes on the QB and zone. He's able to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: maintain spatial responsibility by while reading the QB. I put
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: out some clips a couple of weeks ago. The playoff
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: game against Jacksonville is a great example. He's got three
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: interceptions in that game. The second interception it's covered two,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: so he's got the flat. He's a cloud corner on
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the far side of the field. He reroutes his man jams,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: re routes him, sinks a little bit, sees a drag
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: coming from the other side of the field from the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: number one. He sees it, he plants, he already starts
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: getting up field, and he jumps it kind of on
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the hash because he reads the play, sees where Trevor
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is going, sees the route distribution develop and makes
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: an interception. His ability again to maintain his responsibility but
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: also fall off and coverage collect from the route distributions.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Read the quarterback's eyes, read the route distribution and then
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of you know, playing with some
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: anticipation and playing with a little bit of risk reward.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You see that benefit the Chargers, or you've seen that
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: benefit the Chargers time and time again. And I pull
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: up my phone because I didn't write down this stats,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: but I have it saved and my drafts on my phone.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: So Santa Samuel Junior came into the league in twenty
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: twenty one that from that time, from twenty twenty one
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: through twenty twenty four, he's tied for twenty third with
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it for in terms of forced in completions. He's tied
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: for the twenty third most forced in completions with thirty seven. Also,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he was hurt last year, so he only played four
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: games in twenty twenty four, so this isn't even a
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: full set of games last year, and he's still tied
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: for the twenty third most forced in completions. And then
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that's a thirteen point nine percentage or thirteen point nine
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: percent forced in completion rate when you ratio it versus
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: his coverage targets. He will jump routes, he will make
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: plays on the ball. He's got good hands, he's got
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: good ball skills. He's a willing tackler. This is as
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: big as issue. He's a willing tackler, but he needs
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to be more responsible. Mistackles is definitely an issue for him.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Part of it is due to his size. He's a
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: smaller guy, shorter arms, not the biggest frame, but it
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is more technique than anything. He is a willing tackler.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Watch him tackle Carson Steel last year against the Chiefs guy,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the guy who is just running over everyone, who is
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a hammer as a running back. Samuel comes up, gets
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: him down to the ground one on one and gets
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: him on the upper body, doesn't even go low, gets
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: him up top, eats a stiff arm hangs on, drags
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: him down. He is a willing tackler. He'll finish guys,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you know, in coverage. From a receiver standpoint, he'll pass
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: someone off, jump the flat route, pin a running back
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: down on the ground right away. But he will miss tackles. Again,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: part of it is due to his size, but I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: do think it's more technique than anything. And because he
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: is a willing tackler, that's something that I think the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Bills can coach up. They like you to have more
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of a good sound tackling foundation when you come in,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: but I do think what he offers from a coverage
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: standpoint balances that a little bit. And because he is willing,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I think you can coach him up in that regard.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: He's a good coverage and adjustment communicator pre snap. He
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: looks to jump routes like I talked about, which is,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you know, a risk reward aspect. But he anticipates breaks
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and he diagnoses really well. He's got a quick trigger,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: good short area burst and quickness. He collects and passes
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: off well from route distributions. Again, say you know he's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: carrying his man upfield. He sees another guy coming to
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: his own. He lets that first man go to the safety.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: He comes up like he's very good horizontally and vertically,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: variety of coverages, passing guys off, recognizing where he needs
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to go, how to space routes out, and then on
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: top of it again, reading the quarterbacks, diagnosing, anticipating breaks,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: reading route distributions, collecting and passing off. Especially as a
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: cloud corner. I really like him as a you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a cover two corner. But again, he does have man
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: coverage ability. You can put him impress a little bit.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think he is a move despite the fact that
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: he's a smaller guy. I think he has moved towards
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: restricting air space for offenses and wide receivers with his
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: man coverage. Really good feet. Again, he's not bullying guys
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: because he's a smaller dude, but he's got good feet,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: he's got good fluid hips, and he understands leverage, he
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: understands coverage, he understands how to read receivers, and he's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: tenacious and tough as hell. He wants he wants to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: battle with guys. He wants to restrict that airspace in
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a variety of ways. Again, good ball skills. He's able
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to stay in phase versus various body types. The size
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and frame will get the best of him at times
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: at the catch point, even if he is in good positions.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: But again, like I talked about the forcing completions, this
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is the dude interceptions PBu. He's just in and around
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the ball all the time, and usually it's because he's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: in phase in man coverage, or because he knows how
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to flow to the ball and read the play and
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: diagnose it properly if he's in the zone. Last year,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he was put on injured reserve after four weeks with
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: what was called a shoulder injury. He said that he
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: suffered a recurrence of stinger symptoms that have been bothering
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: him at other points in his life. I don't know
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: how much that's going to impact the contract situation. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: think because of the injury last year, being a bit
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: on the smaller side, I don't think he's gonna get
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that double digit average annual value. He is another move
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that I could see kind of being a splash somewhere
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: around eight million, nine million average annual value. I would
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: be a fan of this if you gave me the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: choice of giving him this money or DJ Jones that money.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I'm one thousand percent giving it to DJ Jones. But
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I think Samuel, again, his coverage ability meshes really well
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: with what the direction I want the Bills to go
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: in from a coverage standpoint. And then some of his deficiencies,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: especially the tackling, I do think can be coached up
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: because he is a willing tackler. I would like him
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: on this team. Let me go through real quick with
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: some note. Zach of all Trades says side note, what
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: system does Elam look the best in Jacksonville? Maybe I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: think it's got to be a system that plays a
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: lot of press man and it's just man coverage in general.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: The issue with it is, and this is what I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: said as soon as he was drafted, because the thing was, Oh,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: he's a man coverage corner, and he's got this athleticism
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: and he's got these trades. He was grabby as hell
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: at Florida. I remember, I forget who it was. Somebody
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: really liked Elam during the draft process, because I was
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: down on him. The corners I wanted when if you
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: know me, you know this. I wanted Trent McDuffie, and
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted Roger McCreery McDuffie has become an all pro
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: McCreary has become a really good nickel corner for Tennessee.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: But I thought he could still live on the outside,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: especially in man coverage, even though he had shorter arms.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: But I digress. My biggest thing with Elam I remember
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of people referencing like, oh, watch him against Bama.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: You know he's locking up Jamison Williams. And he wasn't
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: really locking up Jamison Williams. He was just grabbing the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: hell out of them. There's no legal in college football.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: There's past interference, but there's no illegal context, so you
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: can just beat the hell out of a receiver kind
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of as much as you want before the ball is
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: in the air. And he took advantage of that, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that doesn't work in the NFL. We know that story.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: As soon as he r J says mccreer in his
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: t Rex arms. Yeah, him and his t Rex arms.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: He's become a legit nickel for Tennessee. Again, part of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: it is because of the size and the frame. He
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: gets some work outside from time to time. I still
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: think he can live as a man corner there. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: again I digress. Yeah, shout out to Roger McCree in
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: his t Rex arms there. But going back to Zach, Yeah,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I just thought even when he was in man coverage,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: he was overly grabby. And we know that story in
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: his rookie training camp where they had to put boxing
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: gloves on him because he was grabbing so much like
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and I think they had to do it again in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: year two. He's just too gravvy. He doesn't bring his feet.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know where and what the disconnect is. I
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: think he is best suited for a man coverage system,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: particularly pressed, but he's so grabby. And again this goes
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: back to my initial evaluation. He's so grabby that he's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: gonna draw a ton of flags and they're like egregious
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: type of flags. And his feet aren't great and they
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: haven't improved too much, and you seem kind of panic
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: at the top of routes from now and from now
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and again in time to time, it would be more
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: of a man coverage and pressman system. But even then
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's so grabby that it kind of almost
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: cancels it out. I I just don't see him working.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't like I forget where I had him in
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: my draft. I think I had like a third round
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: grade on him because of the traits. Maybe a late too,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I wasn't the biggest fan coming out.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I hope he could turn around. He's a smart dude,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Eric and I had him in the film room. He
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: understands coverage, he understands shoulder angle for QBS and how
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to read and how to process so and he's got
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the physical tools and traits. So I don't know. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: truly don't know where the disconnect is. Like, I find
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it confusing because he is a smart dude and he
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: has the tools physically. I just don't know why he
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: can't connect the two. But yeah, David says Samuel Ward
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: or Carlton Davis. I would take a Sante Samuel or
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Shaberius order Carlon Davis Ward. I don't think he has
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the athleticism or the juice that I want at the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: corner spot. Davis has a little more, but there's injury
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: stuff with him, and I think the cost would be more.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: A Sante Samuel Junior would be my guy because of
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: his age, because of his play style. That would be
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: pretty sweet comment here saying it would be cool for
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: McDermott to coach both Samuel and his son. That's right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I think he did. He did coach a Sante Samuel
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the dad when he was a Philly good call, good call,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: good call. And Charles said his daddy was a ball. Yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Sante Samuel j or Sante Samuel Senior couldn't tackle either,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't really willing. He was a bad tackler
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and also didn't try. But dude would jump routes and
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: pick six stuff all day. Yeah, that's that's a good call.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Ardie says, I just don't get why Elim is bad.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: He really puts in the work. He has the physical tools,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: he's super smart, great attitude. I just don't get it.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I agree, I don't. I don't get it. And again
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not just saying it because we had him on
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: the show, because he's a bill. Like we were talking
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to him offline before the show started. Dude was super smart.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: And then we did the show and you can see
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in that show, if for anybody who wants to watch it,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: just type in like cover one film room kyer Elam
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and you can see again he's breaking down route concepts
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and he's you know, hey, these routes were over here,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: but I knew the quarterback was going to go to
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the deeper one because I could tell by the plane
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and angle of his shoulders that he was going to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: look deeper. So that's why I peeled off. He's talking
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: about the the interception in the playoffs against the Dolphins.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: It's cover two, so he's that cloud corner and he
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: sinks underneath. I believe it's a smash concept. He sinks
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: underneath the corner route and he gets an interception. And
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: he does that because he's reading the QB. But he
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: can see the quarterback change his angle and his plane
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: on his shoulders, and he can tell he's going to
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: go for the deeper route. So Elom just keeps sinking
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: and he sinks underneath it and he picks it off.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: He's smart, and he's got the physical tools and trades.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: He's big, he's long, he's strong, he's fast, he's smart.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: He's been around ball his whole life with his family.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I truly don't. I don't know
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: where the disconnect is. Yeah, I don't. It's it's perplexing.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: NOA says Benford needs to teach elm if there's any
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: hope left, which I doubt. Man. I yeah, I don't know.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: At this point, Charles says, do you think the addition
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: of the coach from Jacksonville means more man coverage next year? Yes,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and I think more. I think more press as well.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I broke it down in the film a couple weeks ago.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I think so Nielsen. Ryan Nielsen was the defensive coordinator
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of the Falcons in twenty twenty three, and then he
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator of the Jags in Pardon Me in,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator of the Jags in twenty twenty four.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, the Falcons, I don't want to
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: say the specific rankings, I hey, don't remember off the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: top of my head. I actually know. I think they
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: had like the second or seventh most press reps of anyone,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty four Jacksonville was either second
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: or seventh. And then in twenty twenty three a j
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Terrell was towards the top of the league in press reps.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: He was their number one corner, and then there's the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: second corner was like seventeenth or something. And then with
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the Jags, I think Monterret Brown had the most reps,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: his second most reps in press, and their second corner
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: was like top ten as well. I expect more man
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: coverage and I expect more press man, but Sean McDermot
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: did say that Ryan Nielsen would be focused more on
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, like that's his forte, that's that's where
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: he comes from. So I don't know. Maybe it won't
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: affect anything, but I just given all the connection pieces
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: bringing in the coach from New England, where New England
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: plays a ton of cover, one plays a ton of
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: man coverage like Nielsen coming in as a defensive assistant.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: What McDermot said at the end of Kansas City game,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I do expect more man and I do expect more press.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: How much, I don't know. It could be a one
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: percent increase, could be a five percent increase, but I
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: do expect more man. I do expect more press as well,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: so more man coverage, more press, and then I also
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: expect more simulated pressures and creeper pressures. Again, I don't
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: know how much from a percentage standpoint, but my favorite
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: thing about Ryan Nielsen to seasons ago with Atlanta was
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: his simulated pressure packages and his creeper pressures. I was
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: watching before this past season, the twenty twenty four season started.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I was watching tape on Jesse Bates, the safety for
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, because I love Jesse Bates.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Watched like five or six games for the Falcons, and
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: one of the big things I came away with was
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the simulated and creepers that Atlanta was running. And that
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: was without having a ton of talent or dudes in
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: their front seven. No disrespect, but they were just scheming
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: teams up left and right on third downs and in
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: no passing downs in situations. So with Ryan Nilsen being added,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I think more man, more press and I do think
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: more simulated and creepers, especially with the simulateds and creepers,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: because even if he is focusing more on the defensive line,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that ticks into that world. But we will see, we
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: will see. Alex says, what is the compensation for DJ Jones?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be anywhere from eight to
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: nine and a half million dollars. He's put as eleven
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and a half on spot track. I don't think he's
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: going to get that much. I think it's going to
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: be somewhere between eight and nine and a half and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I would gladly play it. Question from mister Spunky, Mister
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: spunky Lama, do you think it's a confidence issue with
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Elim guy clearly knows Paul, knows how to Paul.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I do think it's a confidence that. I just think
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: it's something mental. There's some disconnect. I think he doesn't
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: bring his feet, he gets grabby, he lunges at the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: top of routes. And I don't know if it's a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: confidence issue. I don't know if it's a you know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: panicky kind of forget my technique, heat of the moment
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: type of issue. But I wouldn't expect that, considering, you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: playing at Florida and playing those high leverage games against
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: high leverage you know, or high high level talent. I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't expect that. I think it's got to be confidence.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: But again, I don't know, and I don't want to
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: speculate too much. It's it's just tough. It's just tough.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: It's just tough. Nicky says, Elim's a kid who once
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: he loses his confidence at a game, he just gets
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: way too much cushion. Yeah, there was also some schematic
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: stuff as well, like a I don't know man like it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I'm still just genuinely perplexed, Like I don't get it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I thought I thought it would take time for him
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to adjust. I thought he needed time on task to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: adjust to the Bill system because of how much man
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: he played and because of how much you know, less
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: grabby he needed to be than he was at Florida.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: But we've seen some really nice flashes. We just haven't
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: seen it kind of come together overall. I let me
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: take a drink real quick, But yeah, say all that
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to say, Santi Samuel Junior is number five for me.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of making a splash at either
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: corner or defensive tackle. Again, I would rather do it
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. There are several corners that I really
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: really like who I think are going to be available
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: at thirty, and the only thing that holds me back
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: from fully committing to a Sante Samuel Junior in free
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: agency is just some of those tackling pieces. Again, he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: is willing, and I do think a lot of it
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: is technique, but again some of it is due to frame,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: and you can't coach size. You can't coach frame, you
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: can coach the technique, and he does have the want too.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: He does have the desire, he is willing, but some
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: of that just worries me a little bit, and then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: some of the size and frame stuff at the catch
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: point again all the things that were concerns coming out
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: of Florida State. But I do think he's a good corner.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I do think he would fit the defense. I do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: think he can play more press than he gets credit for,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: because he has the footwork to play soft shoe and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: be a problem. Then the ball skills on top of it,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: plus the mentality, I would gladly take him another corner.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Next up on my list, number six is Paulson Adebo
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Corner from the New Orleans Saints, another one who if
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: you look at market value projections, I think are a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: bit too high. Market value projection per spot Track is
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: eleven point one million dollars. I don't think he's gonna
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: get that. The main reason I don't think he's going
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: to get that is he broke his femur last year
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: in week seven. I think that would drop his price
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: tag to somewhat of an affordable corner two range or
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a one year type of kind of prove it deal
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: with a winning team to show teams like, hey, I'm fine,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I'm good to go. It's a shame that he got
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: hurt because with the Saints trading Latimore, he had the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: opportunity to be like the CB one for the Saints
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: last year and could have earned himself a big payday
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: on the open market. He still might like he's got
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: some fun tape, he's got some production which I'm going
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: to talk about here. But I don't think he's necessarily
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: going to cash in on this deal. Maybe he gets
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: if he signs a multi year deal. I do think
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: it's similar to the Nante Samuel deal. I think it's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: more around eight to nine and a half maybe ten
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: average annual value. But I don't think it's gonna hit there.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be more between like seven and a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: half to nine, maybe nine and a half pushing it tops.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And if that's a multi year deal, cool. Maybe he
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: signs one year ten, a one year nine. Again, maybe
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: he signs one year, maybe a one year six or seven,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: one year prove it and then he's gonna prove it
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and then next year he cashes in the three year
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: thirty three million dollar deal or the three year thirty
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: eight million dollar deal, something like that. The reason I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: like him again, I've talked about it this offseason. I've
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: talked about it a bit on this show. I want
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: corners who are comfortable in press. That's my big thing
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: with looking for guys in the draft this year. So
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: not to kind of get into much, but part of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the reason I really like Trey Amos from Ole Miss
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: is because of his comfortability and press and what he's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: able to do. So guys who are comfortable restricting air space.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I want guys who are comfortable in press, who are
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: comfortable in man either way, both of those things, especially together,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: but both of those things constrict airspace. That is what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. Squeeze passing windows, constrict airspace, re
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: route receivers, disrupt their timing, disrupt the timing with the quarterback,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: affect route distributions. That is what I would like. Just
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: get mean and nasty and get into dude's kitchens left
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and right. A Diebo is very comfortable in press. So again,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: he broke his femur in week seven last year, so
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: that means he only played weeks one through seven, But
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: those seven weeks last year he had the seventeenth most
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: reps impress out of everybody in the league. You'll see
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: him play press man, offman. He can play match coverages.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: He's a good cloud corner. He needs to be better
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: at the collision point and in undercutting inbreakers, digs, especially
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: or those ten yard inns. He allows wide receivers to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: lean into him and kind of snap it off on
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: those inbreaker routes. Again, especially on digs. But similar to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a Sante Semuel Junior. He's got good space awareness and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: ability to drive and close on routes. You will watch
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: him space routes evenly. He's reading the quarterback. He understands
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: the route distribution. He's got the ability to read again
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: those route distributions, but also collect guys coming off. He
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: can pass off and collect. He's sound and responsible in coverage.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: You'll watch him, you know again when he's impressed. It's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: similar to Santi Samuel Junior. Some more soft shoe press,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: some catchman when he's playing offman, some scooch technique. He's got,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: you know, fine feet, but he is a little bit
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: stiff in his lower body. And I don't think it's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: necessarily because I'm talking about both sides of my mouth here.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think its necessarily because it's stiff. He just
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: has longer legs. So I think he's fluid enough in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: his hips, but because he has longer legs, there is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: some kind of stiffness to his game there in the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: lower body, but not enough that it's a huge hindrance.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: He's good versus outbreaking routes. He's susceptible to double moves
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: because he looks to jump routes on the break. He
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: is an aggressive corner, and then you know if he's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: running deep, if he's got guys running deep comebacks against
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: him when he's impressed, man, it will take him multiple
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: steps needed to break down. He always aims to stay
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: over the top of route, so that leaves him a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: bit susceptible there. I am he needs better hip SNC,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and again I don't think it's because he's not fluid.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's just because he has longer legs and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: it's harder for a dude with longer legs to kind
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: of get that type of sink. If they are going
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: to sign a corner in this offseason, those are kind
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: of my picks from a high value standpoint, and also
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: to tie it back into that as Sante Samuel stats.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: So again I mentioned from twenty twenty one through twenty
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: twenty four forced in completions, A Sante Samuel Junior, despite
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: only playing four games last year, was tied for the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: twenty third most forced in completions in that time. Paulson
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Dedebo same guy or same guy, same time frame, because
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: he came to the league in twenty twenty one, So
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty one through twenty twenty four. Again he
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: only played seven games last year, he has the seventh
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: most forced in completions since he's been in the league,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: forty nine forest in completions from twenty twenty one through
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And again that's with only playing seven
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: games last year. That is a fourteen point eight percent
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: forced in completion rate. So Samuel and a Deebo, both
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: of these guys are people that I am looking for
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: to constrict airspace, to play some man coverage, to play
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: some press, but also still be able to function in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: zone both in terms of spot drop and in terms
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: of match coverage stuff. That is the big thing you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: can't and not to bag on Elam again, but tying
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it into the Kiri Realam conversation, you can have hope
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to take. Okay, we can take it's usually and you're
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: not really gonna take his zone corner and turn them
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: into a man corner. It's that's usually a bit harder.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to take kick the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Kyriealm example, right man, look at this corner. He's got
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: all these physical tools and traits, and he can play man.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: We can coach him up to play zone. Maybe you can't.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking for guys in free agency who can
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: play man, who can do those things to restrict airspace
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: that I think this defense needs and that I personally
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: want for this defense and just how I operate philosophically
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: for defenses. But they also have to be able to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: still play zone. They need to have good spatial awareness.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: They need to have good zone awareness. They need to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: be able to play match covers. They need to know
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: how to read routes, read route distributions, not lose guys
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: in their blind spots. They need to understand how to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: collect and how to pass off when in zone. Be
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: able to play match all of these things, understand rules, communicate,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: be smart, be able to play fast physically and mentally.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: In addition to the man coverage stuff. You can't just
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: look for a guy, well, let's just get this guy
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: who's big, long and fast and have him playing man coverage.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: One that doesn't just work. Man coverage is hard too.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: You're still going to end up playing zone. No team
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and I shouldn't say no, but most teams are not
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: going to be, you know, predominantly man coverage playing teams,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and the Bills are one of them. They're still going
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to play a lot of zone. I expect them to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: play more man, but these corners are a move in
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the direction of being able to play man more successfully,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: being able to play press more successfully, and not losing
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the ability to play zone. So it's kind of a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: win win win across the board. The only hindurance again
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: is going to be the cost. With some of the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: concerns with Samuel and the injury last year, with some
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: of the concerns with the debo coming back from that
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: broken femur, I do think they're an opportunity for both
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: of those guys to have their price tag knocked down
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit. It just depends on how much are
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: they are they going to cost? Are they really going
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: to get those market value projections? Are they going to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: sign eleven or twelve you know, million dollar a year
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: deals or is it going to be less? Is it
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a one year, is it a two year, is it
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: three to four years? You know, are do they cash
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: in cash in or do they sign some prove it
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: deals or go somewhere to win and then try and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: bag in you know, the following year. The cost is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: really the only thing that hinders me from these guys.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: If they were to sign Samuel or a debo, I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: would still like them to go Corner, probably early day
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: three with one of their fourth round picks. But if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: someone dropped to thirty again, I know it's kind of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: you know, adding on too much, but if someone dropped
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: at thirty or someone's there in the second round, I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: would not be opposed to going with another Corner, especially
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: if they take Samuel. But I think these are the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: guys that are kind of towards the higher end of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the market. I know, people thrown out, you know, DJ
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Reed or Sarvarius Ward or Carlton Davis kind of what
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: that market looks like for those guys. I think those
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: guys are going to be too rich for the Bill's blood.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: This would be kind of the splash at corner that
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I could see them going for realistically, like I mentioned earlier,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I do think it'll be someone towards the bottom end
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: from a cost protective, more like a Benjamin Saint juice,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: and then you take a corner in round one or
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: round two and you let them compete and go from there.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: But I really do like Samuel and Adebo just because
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: of the boxes they tick and they check. Let's go back.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Alex says, what can you tell me about DJ Jones?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Why would it be a good addition to the defense.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be that guy, but I let
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: off with DJ Jones in this episode, So if you
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: want go to around like the ten minute mark. I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: spoke on him for like seven eight minutes for everything
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: that he does and what he offers. What David says, Yes,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I forgot about a debo love them coming out of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Stanford Gain. I remember I remember him coming out same
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, that's cool that he went
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to the Saints and he had a couple of really
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: really really good years. Mm hmmmmm. See in some comments,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Charles said, I watched Gabe Davis cooka debo when they
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: played in college. It was awesome. Nicky says, am I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the only one who watchs oh telling Noah Funga, especially
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: with how often Rap is injured. I really love Fufunga.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the fit is in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the defense given how he plays and how Bishop plays,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: or what the pairing is. But I love him as
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: just an individual player. I liked him coming out of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: college too. M Charles says free agencies should be after
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, you know what, I've heard some people
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: say that, and I'm not against it. I do like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: using free agency as the way to kind of, you know,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: fill in the cracks a little bit and then use
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the draft to elevate that. But I understand, I understand
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: your sentiment there and your feelings there, and I'm not
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: completely against that. Number seven for me on this list,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: John Kaminski Edge from the Detroit Lions, another person who
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I think can be somewhat cost effective. Kaminski is a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: move in the current archetype of what the Bills like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: in their defensive ends, slash edges and the defensive line
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: in general. So he tore his mcl in camp last
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: year twenty twenty four, missed all of twenty twenty four.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: She'll be fine coming back in here. Big thing with
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: him is what he is as a defensive lineman someone.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: He's a bigger bodied edge us really in Detroit's system
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: when he was playing as kind of like more of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: a four ey like a defensive end in an odd
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: front type of system, but you would watch him get
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: flexed out the edge. And he has the ability to
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: work out there, mainly for the Bills because when he rushes,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: he is a pocket compressor. He can compress the pocket
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: from the outside, you can he can drive tackles into
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the backfield. But he does have enough athleticism to kind
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of make some plays aside from that, and then the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Lions would kick him inside on known passing downs and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: situations and let him just bull rush centers and guards
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: and just go through them. There are a lot most
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: of his best reps are on third downs and he's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: just pinning his ears back and running through guards and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: running through centers and driving them back into the quarterback slabs.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: That's what his move is. He is a pocket compressor.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: He's a speed to power guy. You will literally watch
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: him on the snap like load up and drive into
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: your offensive linemanback He's got a good enough get off
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Again, he didn't play in twenty
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: twenty four, but in twenty twenty three he had a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: zero point ninety seven get off that was around the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: same time as Daniel Hunter, Nomindy Metabique, Kenny Clark, and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins. He has some moves aside from the compression
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: push pull, push to rip and a long arm. He's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: got a good motor, really really hustles, a lot of
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: relentless reps, good hand usage just well, both in terms
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: of pop and placement versus the run. He uses his
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: hands to establish first touch and he works to extend
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: while reading the running backs track, and then he'll shed
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: make the play. Not a ton of dip, not a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: ton of bend. But he's not unathletic. He again, though,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is in that mold of kind of what the Bills
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: have used at their archetype at edge. So I had
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Dante Fowler up there earlier as number two. I had
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyt as four. Those guys are more of the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: departure Kaminsky is more of in the same vein, like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: if you keep this room as is and it's groot
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: and Epanessa and Vaughn and Solomon. You signed Kaminsky and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: then he becomes kind of like the Duan smooth player
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: from last year. A little more upside for me though.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: And you get someone who can compress the and he's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: a much better run defender. I should say thandwant smooth.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: So you get somebody who can compress the pocket from
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: the outside, who can line up and kick inside on
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: known passing downs and distances. But he plays the run
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: really well. He adds to the run defending value of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the edge grouping and then the ability to rush the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: passer from the inside on third downs. And again he's
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: in that pocket compression archetype mole that the team has
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: used and loved really since being and McDermott took over.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: So he's another guy again. It's cost effective as well,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: projected a two point five average annual value. I feel
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: like he'll probably get somewhere around there, maybe even gets
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: less because of coming off that torn MCL. He's a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: really solid rotational dude. I would like a higher level
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: person at edge. I would like, like I mentioned with follower,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I want a mercenary or an assassin known quantity as
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher. But Kaminski, I think is a really
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: nice kind of edge three, edge four, versatile piece who
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: can be lined up in a bunch of spots on
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, who can be used in a multitude
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: of ways, plays the run, can compress the pocket and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: go through dudes. I think he gives you just again,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: more sandpaper and grit with some athleticism, but a lot
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: of sand paper and grit and some value at multiple
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: spots for a pretty good cost. Again, I want more
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: of the mercenary or assassin. This pick is more let's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: go with the trends we've seen for years. Let's think
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: about the money and the trends and the archetype. Let's
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: put those two things together, and that's where you get
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: John Kaminsky. But I liked this tape really. Since when
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: did Vauntereira's ACL twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: don't remember. Everything kind of blurs together. Whatever year the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Bills played the Lions on Thanksgiving, I was watching Lion's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: tape getting ready for that game, and Kaminsky just kept
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: flashing and making play, flashing and making play. So he's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: somebody I've kept my eye on for a couple of years.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I felt bad for him that he tore his mcl
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: in camp, but I feel which is also kind of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: like a bad omen for the Lion's defense, where everybody
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: was hurt for like the entirety of the year. So
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: it just really started with Kaminsky and kind of went
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: from there. But I like Kaminsky, and then again, cost
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: effective can wear a lot of hats on that line.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Zach. Zach and the Comments says twenty twenty two. Yeah,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I like Kaminsky. I like what he offers. I like
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: the versatility. I like the physicality. I like the tenacity.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I like the ability to push the pocket, go speed
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: to power and also play the run and do something
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: and still have a little bit of athleticism. Walter says,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Justin Simmons. He seems to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: me to be the perfect blend of still playing at
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: a high level plus being a veteran shouldn't break the bank.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, he'd give us the most stability of
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: any option of free agency. I really wanted Justin Simmons
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: last year. I have not watched any Falcons defense tape
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: from last year and paid too much attention to Simmons,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what he was in twenty twenty four.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: I will say I was surprised that he signed for
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: as much as he did as a free agent. I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: think he came off of I don't know why I'm saying,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: like I have to question it, Like I can't just
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: go look it up right now. I thought it was
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: like a one year, five million dollars deal with the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Falcons late in the offseason. Oh no, it was one
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: year seven point five million with the Falcons late. Man.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I have to see what he still offers from a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: range perspective. But if you're thinking of a guy who
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: again can play on the back end, who understands coverage,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: who knows leverage, who knows responsibility, he takes a lot
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of boxes from that free safety post, you know, center
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: field type of safety, single high safety, to pair with
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: a Bishop or a rap I wouldn't be opposed to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: him coming in on like a one year five million
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: dollar deal and being safety three. I would actually really,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: really really love that. I do agree with you. I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: think he'd give the Bills a lot of stability, especially
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: from the neck up. I just don't know what he
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: has physically and what he looked like in Atlanta, because
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch too much of their tape this past
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: year with what they were I actually watched some of
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: their offense but didn't watch some of the defense, so
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he really offered too much. But
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: in theory, I like it. I still yeah, I still
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: found it. I thought he would kind of not cash
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: in but signed like a two year, fifteen sixteen million
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: dollar deal with someone last year, and he signed with
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: the Falcons late for one year, seven point five million,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: So I think that's interesting if they could get him
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: maybe Adam to the competition, or if it's like a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: safety three type of scenario that he'd be involved in,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: but or I really liked the idea of Cole Bishop
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: being the dime linebacker on third downs and then maybe
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Justin Simmons is coming on the field and it's wrapped
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Simmons and Bishop on third downs. I don't know how
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: much you pay for that, what the rotation looks like, YadA, YadA,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: But I like the idea. I just don't know what
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: the practical application looks like because I haven't watched Falcons
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: defense tape from last year. But I could take a peek.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Good comment, Walter. I appreciate you for that. All right.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: This next one is for I forget who asked me earlier.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: I thought it was CHS who asked me. Yeah, it
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: was Charles. Charles asked if there are any wide receivers
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: on the list. There are wide receivers on the list
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: number eight. For me, it's DeMarcus Robinson, receiver from the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. I want to preface this and say
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: something first though, I want Matt Collins back. I'm not
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: including bills free agents on this list. I would like
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Collins back. I'll appreciate you Walter. Of course, I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate the question, Walter, and yeah, I'm sorry I haven't
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I don't have. Walter said that's fair. Thanks, but yeah,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: so I appreciate you for that, and I like the question.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I had the exact answer, but I don't
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: want to talk out of my ass and be like, oh, yeah,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I think this justin soon. I think too many people
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: talk out of their ass when they actually haven't watched
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and don't understand how what a player actually is, or
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: what evaluation is, or what scheme instructure actually is. So
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to just talk and mislead you. But
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I will go back and take a peek at that's
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: a fair question. But yeah, I appreciate the question. Thank
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: you for being here, and thank you for the Thanks
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: to Marcus Robinson. I want to preface this by saying
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I want Matt Collins back. I loved what he was
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: last year. Again obviously more of a depth receiver. He's
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: not a number one, he's not a number two. He
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: is from a snapshare perspective. I guess like as a
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: blocker and you can function and spread a little bit.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: He was the Bill's cover zero answer before they brought
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Amari Cooper in. I like Matt Collins. If you bring
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: back Mac Collins and you signed to Marcus Robinson, you're
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: still not addressing the biggest concerns that I have in
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: this wide receiver room, which are more juice, more vertical presence,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: more athleticism, more shake, more wiggle something right. But I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: just like to Marcus Robinson I have for the beast
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons. The biggest thing for me with DeMarcus
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Robinson is, and these are some pieces I've talked about,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: there are two things I want more of in this
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver room. I want juice, athleticism, speed. I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: want a field stretcher, right, somebody who can push vertical,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: take the top off the defense, you know, run those
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: for the love of the game, routes just to pull coverage.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Or who can actually who actually have the juice to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: beat guys vertically one on one and get open downfield.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: So I would like that, or and or someone who
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: can win with route running and separate as a route runner.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Now you don't have to have juice and speed to
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: separate via route running. I think one of the biggest
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, things that get conflated is that in order
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: to have separation you need speed. It does help, but
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: route running is such a huge piece. And when I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: say route running me and everything like you release, how
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: you pace your routes, how you run your stems, your
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: body language, your eyes or deception. Like Adam Feelin separates
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: year after year and he's never been the fastest dude,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: but he's just such a technician as a route runner,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: and he knows how to separate. DeMarcus Robinson is in
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: that category. Different style than feeling, but in terms of
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: a guy who is not a burner, who is not
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: this ultra fast person. But he's so precise with his
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: route running, and he operates with such specificity in his
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: body movements, in his footwork, in his stems, in a
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: variety of routes that he's somebody who I would add
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: to this team. If you need confirmation of that, watch
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Actually I put a tweet out a couple of weeks
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: ago and post on Blue Sky same thing. The touchdowns
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: that he had this past year in the low red
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: zone against Philly, against the Saints, against the Packers, I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: think there was four of them. He runs this it's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: just one stab inside and he runs a little arrow
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: route to the flat and the low red zone. It's
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: usually for anywhere from like the two of the three
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: guard line, and he just creates so much stuff because
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: on the snap it's this stab that he sells with momentum,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: with body language, with flow and just bank and he
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: snaps it right off and he's out on the arrow
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: route and he's wide open in the flat and Stafford
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: hits him a bunch. He the one against the Saints
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: is from the slot. The other three are just from
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: him as the outside to the right of the formation
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: and tight to the formation. Though condensed so that way
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: he can operate for the space outside and just what
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: he's able to do as a route runner, the technicality
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and the precision that he operates with. This the route
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: runner or something that I'm very, very very attracted to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: and have been for years and again, especially in the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: low red zone, even just that somebody who can consistently
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: win in the low red zone, who can just give
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: another option because you know you're gonna get man coverage
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: down in and around the goal line because you have
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And maybe you don't care too much because
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: you're like, we're gonna spam Josh Allen and he'll get
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: in from inside the five. But it's nice to have
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: a dude that can win so consistently outside in those
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: one on ones as another option down there in that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: red zone, especially if you pair it with Kean Coleman
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: the running game in general, and Josh Allen. Again, even
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: though he isn't a burner and he isn't a big
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: deep threat, he still can get vertical because he is
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: a crafty route runner, because he understands how to pace
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: his routes, he understands releases, he understands stem work. This
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: is someone who I think exhibits a lot of those
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: traits of kind of like the true X. The ability
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: to get off press, the ability to go up high
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: point the football, bring it down. He can make contest
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: to catch us, he can separate, he can run a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: variety of routes in the route tree. He's somebody who,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: again I think, ticks a lot of the boxes that
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: you are looking for in that true type of X
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, that kind of guy six foot one, two
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: hundred and two pounds. He doesn't have that speed. He's
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: not a burner. He's not going to threaten you vertically
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: all the time. Just oh like, we can't cover this
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: guy one on one because of how fast he is.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: But he can still get over the top and win
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: with physicality, or separate on the release, fool you in
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: the stem and get vertical. He's coming off of a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: one year, four million dollar deal with the Rams. I
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: think he could be had for something similar. He's going
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: into his age thirty one season. He's somebody who I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: think just increases the technicality in the wide receiver room,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: gives you the route running ability, some juice. Obviously not
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: a ton proven veteran ability played with Mahomes with the Chiefs,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: played with Stafford and McVeigh and the Rams. This is
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a smart dude who understands systems and concepts. He blocks,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: he can win in the red zone. He's going to
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: add to the leadership and the mental side of the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: game in the wide receiver room. And then again I
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: think he operates in that niche role of being a
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: separator and can win some one on ones and win
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: you some battles there. He understands pacing. He understands concepts
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: and spacing, I should say, in addition to pacing, also
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: really good successful production off of Play Action last year.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Just smart knows how to find space and operates in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: a variety of ways that I think the Bills would
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: need for him. Another guy, So honorable mention to Charles,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: and I think a couple comments came in for this.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Charles said, check out Josh Palmer, good separation EPA numbers
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: last year. He can beat that vertical threat. We talked
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: about him in the film room last week. Josh Palmer
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: and Noah Brown are two of my honorable mentions in
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: terms of guys who have a little bit of a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: route running ability, a little bit of some size a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: little bit of some athleticism or some you know, physicality
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: after the catch. Guys who just tick different boxes and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: have skill set pieces in different buckets. Overall, those are
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: two of my honorable mentions. Clauses the same thing. I'm
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: a Josh Palmer guy, have been since the University of Tennessee.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I like that Diami Brown, but those two playoff games
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: scare me. He's going to get overpaid. Yet we spoke
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: about Deambie Brown last week. Those are the wide receivers
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: that I think the Bills need to operate with. Caleb says,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: thoughts on to to at Well. We talked about to
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: to at Well last week, and I would say where
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: is this comment? Dex from earlier says, these are the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: free agent wide receivers I want the Bills to look
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: at too, too at Well, Diambi Brown, Arcus Robinson, Josh Palmer,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Justin Watson and Noah Brown all cheap, good options. I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: feel like everybody here is trolling me, but these are
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: are Maybe not, but like these are who all of
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: these receivers Eric and I talked about last week in
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: the film room, and for a variety of reasons, guys
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: who can separate with speed, route running size yards after catch,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: work underneath block, do perform a variety of functions and roles.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Watson was one who I threw out there. Just a
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: big body dude who can block but also get vertical
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: and has done that in Kansas City for several years.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Watson's a good guy as well. Yeah, good comment there,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Caleb says again to go back their thoughts on too
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: to that, well, I like to to. I like the
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: gadget aspect of him. Somebody who you can, you know,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: hit a quick little bubble too, or a little RPO
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: route and all of a sudden you hit him on
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: a glance, or you hit him on an RPO bubble,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: or you take advantage of the numbers outside and if
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: it's you got three and they got two. Man, My
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: only thing with him is is again so I like
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to too. I like one even though he's a smaller guy,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: he is Domini in his stature. He is a willing
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: blocker and he blocks better than he gets credit for.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: You have to with your the rams. They expect every
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: receiver to block like Cooper Cup and Poopina cool. That's
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: just how they operate. But I like him as just
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: another you're rounding out the basketball lineup of the room.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think Tutuo at will becomes like I just
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: don't know how many snaps SS right, I don't know
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: what snapsher usage or rate looks like. So it's kind
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: of that idea of if you're putting him on the field,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: is he just going deep? Is he going short? If
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: he's on the field, is the ball going to him?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Are you kind of siloing yourself and building in some tendency?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: But I do like a skill set. I do think
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: his skill set is needed on this team. I wish
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: it came in an overall package. I wish you could
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: put two two at well speed into DeMarcus Robinson's body
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: and I would love that. But even though he is
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: kind of a a more of a niche player, I
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: like the idea of his skill set and how he
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: can be used. I wish it came in a package
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: with other things, UH to make it more of a
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: complete player and not have to I want to round
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: out the basketball lineup in the wide receiver room, but
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have to do it with so
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: many players. I don't want to have six guys and
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: it's like this guy is this, this guy is that.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I'd like to have some more overlap for some of
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: the more important skill set pieces. But I do think
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: what he brings is not present currently in the Bills
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: lineup at wide receiver, and I wouldn't mind that. David says,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: how about Hollywood Brown. I talked about him last week
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: in the film room. I'm out on Hollywood Brown. I
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: was really disappointed with just how he operates. Let me
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: go pull up my notes. He's got the speed to
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: stretch the field and run pass defenders, but his small
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: stature and frame hinders his contested catchability and ability to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: play through contact. He's got long legs, not much wiggle
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: or shake to his game. He lacks deception in his routes,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: both in the break and in the stem. He's a
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: one gear route runner, not much pacing to his routes.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: He does have some of that long speed still to
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: stretch the field, but he lacks sharpness and precision in
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: his routes. He struggles versus physicality both true press or
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: reroutes in his stems, and he has minimal hip sync
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: so flexibility his lower body. I did not like his
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: tape from twenty twenty four too much. Again, he was hurt,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: so he didn't have a ton of it. I went
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty three, watch what he did with Arizona.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I think he's purely a field stretcher. I don't think
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: he's his like I would rather. I would rather give
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: that his money to two two at Well than I
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: would Hollywood Brown. That's how I feel. I just don't.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's really living off the name more than
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: anything else. And maybe I don't know. There was a
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: reason why he's been down the past couple of years,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: and I will say it's I'm not looking at the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: numbers and looking at the tape like he did get
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: open in Arizona and their QB situation in twenty twenty three,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: just didn't get him the ball when he was getting open.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: But I mean, if he wants to come here on
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: like a one year, three or four million dollar deal,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it. But he's smaller dude. He's not
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: going to block like you need him to. He's really
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: just a one trick pony, and I think that one
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: trick is somewhat diminished. So I'm not a huge fan.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: That's kind of my issue. Walter said, please note it
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: two to at Well, we've tried this type of wide
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: receiver just about every year to no success. I think
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: they couldn't maximize in four years. I'm not gonna expect
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Brady to be able to I think McVeigh started to
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: use him well these past couple of years though, and
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: again to Tu tou in La was a supporting cast guy.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: It was Puka, and it was Cup and then it
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: was Robinson and then it was two two at Well.
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  Speaker 1: So like him performing is your wide receiver three or
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: wide receiver four. That's what I'm looking at him for.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking for him to be this, you know,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one or wide receiver two. I'm looking him
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: for him to be an additive to the lineup, like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: a six man guy coming off the bench who can
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  Speaker 1: do a variety of things for you and offers you
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: things that you don't have. There is no wide receiver
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: they have with that level of juice and shake at
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: the spot who can stretch the field but also be
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: a problem underneath and shake guys underneath and create his
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: own space and do that kind of stuff. But both
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: in the route and you know, after the catch a
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: little bit. But Again, the size are is a concern.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: How much is it going to cost? Then and again
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: you're adding him to the rotation, not necessarily making him
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: kind of a of a focused guy, or just says
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think they should look at any mid level
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: or lower wide receivers. They need a wide receiver one
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: or at least a wide receiver two. Unfortunately, they are
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: severely difficult to come by. Plus this draft, the wide
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: receiver class isn't great. I agree with you. My only
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: issue is if they don't have a wide receiver that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: can either stretch the field at speed or has some
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: of those true X capabilities like the ability to win
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: on one, win on the outside, win in your stem,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: or win on your release, or win in the break,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: they are they're going to struggle a little bit, I
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: do think. And again it was early in the year,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. I think you will see more struggles
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: they like they had against the Texans and Ravens. If
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: they don't have a true guy on the outside who
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: can win in some form or fashion, whether it's over
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: the top or just winning one on one. If they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: don't have somebody who allows the outside and above to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: open up a little bit, they're going to struggle. We
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: saw what the Texans and the Ravens did, which was
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: if you've got athletic or good corners, we're just gonna
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: play single high. We're gonna play man coverage. We'll play
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: cover one, single high obviously, we'll play cover one single
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: high man. We'll play cover three, single high zone because
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: we're not scared of anybody beating us one on one
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: on the outside. We're gonna flood bodies in between the
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: numbers to take away Kincaid and Shakir and what Allen
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: wants to do there. And we're gonna dare you to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: beat us on the outside or beat us over the top,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: because we don't think you have the speed to beat
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: us over the top, and we don't think you have
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: the ability to beat us one on one in the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: stems and one on the way and in those isolated situations.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Cooper alleviated that a bit. And that's a problem if
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: you can't succeed in those areas or should backtrack them
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: minute because not only is that a struggle for the
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: past game, but the more teams feel comfortable just leaving
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: a single high safety and crowding, you know, in between
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: the in between the hashes, in between the numbers crowding
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: the box, then your run game is gonna start to
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: struggle because now teams are just loading up in the
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: box against you, the run game will get a bit
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: more slug. It's just all these problems compound. So I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I think I do think they need a true wide
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: receiver one or a high end wide receiver two. The
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: issue is, like you said, those are severely difficult to
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: come by. So unless you're grabbing T Higgins or you're
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: getting Ted McMillan or something like that, or sign in
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, depending on how feel, I think it's harder
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: to come by just based on cost and based on
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: the resources you have to allocate to get a true
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: one or a high end two. Right, it either costs
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: money or a cost significant draft capital. I don't think
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: the Bills are in the position to do either, given
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: their needs on defense and what their team looks like currently.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: But I do think they need a speed element or
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: a route running some semblance of a true X element
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: to open things up and prevent them from being able
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: to be isolated and be siloed. That's kind of my
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: thought with that things will compound. The running game is
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: what makes this team go. But if they can't have
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: guys who can win one on one, if they don't
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: have guys who can be man coverage or beat one
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: on one in zone. Again, even if it's cover three
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: in its zone coverage on the outside one on one,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: it's it's still essentially kind of playing out like man,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: if you don't have those guys who can win at
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: the release, or win in the stamb, or win on
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: the break or threatened vericlear, threatened verticlear, have some combination
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: of those, everything starts to get tight, everything starts to
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: get compounded a little bit, and then that becomes a
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: problem and it makes things harder overall for the offense.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: That's kind of like my biggest concern. And again, not
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: every team will be able to give them those problems,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: but it kind of trickles down a little bit. And
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: especially with the whole season of tape. You had this
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: really good offense that kind of bullied a lot of
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: teams last year and beat them in a lot of ways.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Now you've got a full season's worth of tape, teams
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: are going to course correct. You need to be able
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: to course correct. You need to be able to have
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: some answers to the questions the defenses are going to compose.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: And something else I've talked about all throughout last year,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the instructure passing game struggled more than was talked about,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: and I think that was due to the lack of
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: separators either in terms of route running in terms of speed.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: So you need some semblance of an element, and again
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: ideally it comes in a true one or a high
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: end two. If you can't get that, you need smatterings
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: of it in some way. That's again why my wish
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: list here rankings here. Your priority here has DeMarcus Robinson
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: at eight because even though he doesn't have that vertical
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: stretch speed ability, he's got some of those true act
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: capabilities the size the frame, the ability to win on
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: the release, win in the routes, win in the stem, separate,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: win with precision he offers you. Then he can block
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: up a little bit as well. That's those are my
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: thoughts there. But good question. M court Chester says Christian Kirk.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna be too expensive. I like
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: him as a player, I just think he's gonna be
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: too expensive. Dexi says, I think it might have been
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: your vid I saw talking about them. Guys. I've been
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: telling other Bills fans about that list, and it's opened
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: their eyes because they were just looking at Hollywood. Thank
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you very much. Appreciate you using some word of mouth
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about the channel on the brand. Thank you
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: very much. That's awesome. Yeah, I think a lot of
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: people are kind of throwing Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, and I
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: was really disappointed in his tape. Nicki says, I still
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: like this offense with Amari Cooper. We can somehow get
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: him back for ten mil or less what he adds
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: even in mentorship for Coleman. His late hands and ability
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: to get open is still there.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the speed anymore. It depends on
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: what he's gonna what he's gonna cost. I thought he
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: helped and opened up the offense last year. It depends
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: on what he costs. If it's if it's anywhere around ten,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I am out. If it's six, If it's seven, I'm
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: willing to have that conversation. Uh it, says crap I
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: commented an the wrong video. Nathan says Darius Slayton. I
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: think Slayton's gonna cost a bit too much on the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: open market. I do like the speed that he has,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: but me I'll read my notes because I did him
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: in the film room last week. He's a depth at
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: working to corners blind spots to run them off on
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: deep pitches. Speed is obviously an influence. He's a vertical
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: stem runner. He'll push outside with paced and snap it
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: off and roughly four to five steps. His deep comeback
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: is his best route. He'll sell vertical, which is nice,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: inefficient movement at the top of his routes, digs in
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: some hitches and in his stems. He has more flailing
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: movement slash motion than coordinated deception. Ninety percent of his
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: routes are hitches, slants, or nines. He has long speed,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: but not a lot of suddenness or sharpness to his movements.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: He's fine and comfortable versus press. Not a ball winner,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: does not maximize his catch radius or win at the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: catch point. Decent ball tracking, ten point seven career drop
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: rate and a season high fifteen point two percent drop rate.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, he had seven drops. His yards
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: per reception last year were nineteen point seven, which was
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: thirteenth for qualifying receivers. And fourteenth overall. He had a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: zero point sixty six EPA per target last year, which
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: was sixteenth for qualified wide receivers and twenty first overall.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Both all of those are off play action, and then
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: overall yards per reception seventeen. He thought of one hundred
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: and fifty two qualifying players in air yards per target,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: eleventh out of one hundred and fifty two. I think
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get a little bit paid on the open
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: market because he's got really good size and length and
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: wingspan and hand size. Again, he doesn't play to that
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: size and frame, but that with the speed I think
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: will cost a little bit more and make teams want
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: to invest in him a little bit more. I just
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna cost too much. Try says, what about Kon?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I like Keon. I just think we're still very much
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: in the trajectory of Kon, And that's a toss up,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: like what is Keon going to be? We don't know.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: We don't know what year two Kon looks like. He
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: could look exactly like he did this year. In year one,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: he could be much improved, he could be marginally improved.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: He in theory could be worse. Like we just don't know.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: My biggest thing with Keon, and I've continued to say
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: it a lot, like I had him as my wide
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: receiver nine last year coming out of the draft, but
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: I thought he had arguably the most varied set of
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: outcomes of any receiver in the class. If you told
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: me he was a wide receiver too, legitimately at the
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: end of his rookie contract, I believe. If you told
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: me he was a low end wide receiver one, I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: believe it. If you told me he was out of
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: the league, I believe it. If you told me he
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: was going to be a career one year contract guy
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: into his thirties, because different teams kept thinking they could
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: finally be the ones to tap into a skill set,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I would believe you. I just think because of how
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: raw he is and unpolished as a player, there is
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of room for variability in what or who
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: he becomes as a player. And I just don't think
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: you can bank on any known quantity of year two
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: keyon which is which is annoying for the group? Right,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: it would be nice to have more of a known
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: quantity in him, again, which can be good or bad. Right,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: he could surpass expectations. He could fall below them again.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned with this, he could be the exact
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: same player in year two, or he could be significantly better,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: or he could be marginally better. Like it, It's really
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: kind of who knows at this point.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Anything.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Mister Spunky Lamas's prayer circle for Matthew gold In at thirty,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Kay Morrey said, I was out. I missed the episode
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: that I missed the Javon Holland segment. I didn't do
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Javon Holland in this one just because I think he's
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: gonna cost way too much. I think I think he's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: out of splurge territory and realistic splash territory. But I
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: would sign up for Javon Holland in a heartbeat, which
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: is part of the reason why I would sign up
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: for Malachi Starks at pick thirty. But I appreciate you
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: knowing who I am as a person. Appreciate you, Troy Choices,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks Aunt, Go Bills, Go Bills. I appreciate you. Thank
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: you very much. Joe says, as far as the draft,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: are there any non first round options that you think
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: can help them against Man and be productive. First few
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: that come to mind are Higgins, No Royals, and Horton.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I really like Tory Horton from Colorado State. He's somebody
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: I've had my own for a couple of years. I
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: haven't watched tape on Royals. I like Noel, and I
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: like Higgins from broadcast in the season just because I
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: watched a bunch of Iowa State I did. I have
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: not watch tape on Higgins or no I haven't done
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: wide receivers yet in any if. I've done Matthew Golden
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver as of now, and I have a
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: couple others that I'm gonna do before the film room tomorrow,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: but I haven't dived into wide receivers too much at
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: this point. Noel, I think, is more slot juice speed guy,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: which definitely would help because his speed is real and
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: is after the catchability is real. Higgins I'm really interesting
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: because I think Higgins doesn't have the juice, But I
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: think he's somebody who offers you some of that true
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: ex skill set. If you can line him up outside,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: he can bully dudes, he can body guys, he can
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: dunk on guys a little bit. But I also think
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: his route running is a little bit better than he
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: gets credit for he can win on in breakers. He's
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: not just a jump ball kind of contested catch target
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: kind of guy. So yeah, the two Iowa State dudes
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: are in the forefront of my mind. I obviously will
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: be watching them, and then I'll get through Royals and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Horton as well. But you know, Horton is Horton's a
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: dude who banged up last year, but his twenty twenty
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty two were super productive. He also
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: offers you some punp return value as well, which is nice.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Slayton is going to cost a lot of money. Yep,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. A lot of thoughts there. Yeah,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of just overall with my list here.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: It was based on cost effectiveness. It was based on
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: who can fit a need, whether it's large scale, whether
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: it's niche, and everything again tied into relative cost. My
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: value and hope for free agency is to kind of
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: set the table so they truly can And I know
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: it always says this, but I really want them to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: go best player available at thirty because I think it
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: could be. It really could be anyone, Like the best
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: player available at thirty could be a wide receiver. It
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: could be a corner, it could be defensive tackle, it
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: could be an edge, it could be a safety. Safety
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: isn't the biggest need, right I think rapid Bishop are fine.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: I've talked about them a ton individually and also why
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I don't really like them as a pair and why
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I have questions about it. But it's not a huge need.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: But if Malachi Starts is there at thirty, I have
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: no problem take Malchi Starks. But if they go, there's
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: a multitude of defensive tackles that I could take at thirty.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: There's a multitude of edges. There's a multitude of corners.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say multitude. There's some corners I would take
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: at thirty. There's a couple of receivers who I would
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: take at thirty if they somehow fell. I just want
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: the Bills to be set up to a spot where
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: to do two things, where they can go best player
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: available in the draft, but also they are maximizing the
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: known quantity pieces at positions of need in free agency.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: And that is why again, if we go through my
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: list number one, DJ Jones, number two, Dante Fowler, number three,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Roy Lopez. Let me go with positions. Number one, DJ
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Jones defensive tackle, number two, Dante Fowler edge, number three,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Roy Lopez defensive tackle, number four, Michael Hoyt edge, number five,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: A Sante Samuel Junior corner, number six, Paulson Dedebo corner,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: number seven, John Kaminski edge, and number eight DeMarcus Robinson
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Give me some known quantities in free agency
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: to round out the roster and fill needs, but at
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: the same time, give you the opportunity to draft best
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: player available at your positions of need with your first
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: three picks. Having you know, three picks in the top
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: of what sixty two or whatever it is in a
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: deep draft where there's a lot of value on Day
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: two is awesome. I also wouldn't be opposed. I don't
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: know if anybody's gonna yell at me or not for
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: this like they did last year. I would not be
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: opposed to the Bills trading out of thirty and trading
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: into like the mid or high thirties and acquiring another
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: second round pick, or like a day or a round
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: three pick. That's how deep I think the first two
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: days are at various spots. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Also,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: in case anybody cares or anybody asks, I'm not opposed
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: to trading James Cook if you can get a Day
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: two pick, if you can get a round three pick
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: back for James Cook. Again, you create a hole that
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: you essentially have to address right away, either in free
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: agency or in the draft. But I'm not completely opposed
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: to it. And there are some really good running backs
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: that you compare with Ray Davis in this class. Take
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: one of them. Reset your running back contract clock, get
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: some effectiveness on top of it. I think that's something
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: could have to be done. But overall thoughts in this
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: free agency episode, yeah, it's based on cost effectiveness. It's
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: back on they're built on I should say, need schematic fit,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: the film, the metrics, a lot of film, i should say,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: and a lot of metrics, and then all of it
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: again tide relative to cost. But I do think the
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: focus on this team right now needs to be the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: defensive line, starting with defensive tackle, then going to edge,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: then you go to corner, then you go to receiver.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: That is what this team needs right now. It's unfortunate
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: that Nathan says Cook for the three is nonsense. I'm
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: not saying it would happen. I'm saying, if you could
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: get that, I'm fine with it. I don't think you're
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: gonna get that, but you know, if they could get it,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: I would take it. Oh exactly, Walter. Walter says, you
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: would trade the best, Oh I forgot how adamant you
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: are about Cook. You would trade the best non Allen
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: offensive player being ever drafted in hopes of what exactly.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Picks are only nice if you hit on them. Agreed.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: My thought is, with the offensive line and the system
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: that they have a combination of another high value running
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: back would be able to get the job done in
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: another way. And Cook's pass protection stuff is still a
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: little questionable on third downs, and it's really just the
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: monetary value that he's going to ask for as a
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: free agent. Now, again, that doesn't mean you have to
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: jettison him now. The only way I'm even trading Cook
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: is if the relationship has soured to the point that
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: they think it's going to be a problem on or
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: off the field within the team, or they just get
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: some amazing value, like someone offers them a two or
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: a three and they're like, Okay, we'll do this, and
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: then they think they can get something out of it.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not trading Cook unless the value is there for
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: what you are getting in return. I'm just saying I'm
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: not opposed to the idea of if they can get
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: a two or a three, I'm not opposed to trading him.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: I think he had a tremendous year last year. I'm
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: not basing that on the touchdowns. I think touchdowns are
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: kind of an arbitrary way to justify someone's value in general.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: But his speed and juice matter a lot. He added
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of physicality to his game, his ability to
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: fall forward and kind of run through should last year
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: and run through dbs, but also add some physicality against
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: some defensive lineman. I don't know how many runs that
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: he made last year, just because he made those on
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: his own, whether it was on the duo runs where
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: he's beating a corner to the edge or he's beaten
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and kind of making things happen on
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: his own. I think his skill set is very important
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: to the offense. I just don't think they're gonna pay
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: him what he wants, which again, it's fine, play out
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: your rookie contract and if you go elsewhere, go elsewhere.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, kind of go forth and prosper.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: But I just I'm not getting rid of him again
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: unless the value is there, or if the relationship is
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: sour to the point where you feel like you need
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: to get rid of him. I'm a big fan of
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: James Cook. I just don't think he's gonna get what
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: he wants from the Bills. I don't know if he's
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: gonna get it in general, but kind of go from there.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Nathan says, to Saquon or Henry pass block, Saquon most
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: definitely does without a shadow of a doubt. Saquon is
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: on the for all three downs and can run, can receive,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: and pass block like crazy. Henry necessarily not so much.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean Henry has been just such a monster
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: as an individual runner that I think you kind of
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: get that less. But Saquon absolutely.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Just I feel the team's value is more important than
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: the league value. If the Lions, Ravens, Eagles cared about
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: the league thought about running back, they would never have
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: the offenses they have. True, but you know, signing Saquon
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: to that deal in free agenc the way the Eagles
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: team was already set up, Saquon kind of put them
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: over the hump. I'm not opposed to paying a running back.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: It's different of how again, how your team is built.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Saquon put the Eagles over the top. Their offensive line
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: was amazing, the receivers they have, the quarterback they have,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: the defense they have. He was kind of like the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Von Miller move. The Bills thought that they were getting
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: where that was the last drop to kind of make
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: everything overflow and pop right Ravens, I think a similar situation.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: You've got Lamar, You've got this mauling offense. Cooker Cook
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Henry is a tremendous fit for it, and we saw
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: that kind of jump. The Lions, I think is a
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: bit different as well, just because schematically how they operate.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: I also think Gibbs is just on another planet in
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: terms of a runner with what he is. Again, I
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: really like Cook, I just don't think he's in the
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: same conversation as Gibbs. Gibbs is an absolute monster and
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: a freak as a runner, just with the like Cook
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: is fast, I don't know what Gibbs Gibbs is. Gibbs
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: his sonic like the sonic and Knuckles like name for
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: him in Montgomery is super legit Walter says, I get
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: your point. I just feel like where the caliber of team,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: where we create the standards in terms of how we
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: operate instead of following the league. No, and I think
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: that's fair. I and so I say, like this too,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: right the run scheme they have, with the line that
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: they have with Chromer as coach, with Josh Allen, with
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: the condensed formations in Brady, I think Cook Cook definitely
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: plays above Uh, come on, come back and focus. I
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: move too much and then the camera tries to follow
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: me and gets out of focus. It'll come back. I
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: think there are times where Cook there we go, where
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Cook played above the scheme and made things happen, where
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: he made the offense right even when they were potentially wrong.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: But I think the offense does so much to help
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: him that, oh that's good. Pison says, and James Cook
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: a shadow. If Sonic is his gibs, that's really good.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: I just think you could operate with a different back,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: like if they got Treveon Henderson for example. I'm not
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: saying he's Cook. And again, prospects are not a guarantee.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I said that to lead off the show. It's not
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: like you can just it's not a like for like,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: it's not a replacement replacement. I just think you could
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: mitigate that loss while helping yourself get financial flexibility in
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: some way because of what Cook's contract has jumped up
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: to this offseason, because of all the little additives of
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl, it was, his cap hit is
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: around like five million dollars this year. Again, I'm not
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: saying they should. I'm just saying I'm not opposed it
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: if you can guarantee me they can get a two
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: or a three, which I don't really think they were
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: get anyway, But I wouldn't be opposed to that. And again,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: even just considering that it has to get to the
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: point of the relationship has to have sour I like Cook,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: I like his fit for the offense. I really do
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: think he wants to get super paid, and I do
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: think he's good, but I don't think he's worth that
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: kind of contract that he's looking for. But which again
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to get rid of him. Now,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: play out the rest of your rookie deal, and if
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: you want to go sign somewhere else as a free
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: agent and another year or whatever, go ahead, do your thing.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Mary says, trade Cook to the Cowboys for Parsons. Phony
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: were that simple? It's only that. What do you mean?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Nathan Nathan said, that's almost tempting. Mary, hold on, Nathan, Nathan,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't trade James are you? I don't know if
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: you're jogging, you wouldn't trade James Cook to the Dallas
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: cow if the if the trade was James Cook for
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, Nathan, would you do that trade? I need
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: to know this because you said that's almost tempting. I
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: don't know if you said that sarcastically or you're saying
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: that because you wouldn't do that deal. I really hope
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: you're still here. I would like I would like to
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: know your response. You would would you do James Cook
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: for Michaeh Parsons? I would like to know that answer.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: Cameron says, who's the number one of cook leaves right now?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: It would I guess it would be Ray Davis, but
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: they would they would look to bring in another running back.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: You're either drafting a running back or you're signing one
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: in free agency. Maybe it's Javonta Williams or something like that.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Walter says, I would would cherry Cook on my back
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: and deliver him for Partisons. Who Nathan, what are we doing?
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Nathan says, I'd consider it and ruminate on it. That's
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: to each their own. That's a hard yes. If the
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: trade is James Cook for Michael Partisons, Nathan, that's a
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: hard yes. Michael Parsons is one of the top ten
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: players in football, not not even defensively, just football. Goodness, goodness.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're kind of trolling or playing a
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: little bit, which is fair, and I like this. Joe
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: has ponder it. Perhaps Archie says, I would throw James
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Cook at Jerry Jones for that deal. I like Walter's answer.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: I would carry Cook on my back to deliver him
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: for Parsons. I like that. Mister spunky Lama says, realistically,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: what else would we have to offer with him to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: get Parsons?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: All?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: I don't even know a lot picks. I don't even
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: know if Cook is the starting point as a player.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know Jerry Jones values running backs, but
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he values the type of running
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: back that Cook is. Plus Zach Martin just retired. Their
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: offensive line has some questions. You'd have to offer a
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: lot for Michael Parsons, a lot of picks and then
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: money on top of it to kind of give him
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: the deal that he wants and the money that he has.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: So it would it would take a lot, not even
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: off the top of it, it would take a lot
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: to get off, Nathan says, with bad knees for Michael Parsons.
• 1:53:51
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