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Navigating Neurological Mysteries with Dr. Carolyn Taylor · Skirts Up!

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What's
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up?
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Skirts
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up,
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squad.
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Did
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you
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just
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take
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my
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wine?
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I
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did.
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It's
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Samantha
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and
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Melissa.
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I'm
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going
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to
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actually
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tell
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you
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guys
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how
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it
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is
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right
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now.
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It
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was
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so
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fun.
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We
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couldn't
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even
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make
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it
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up.
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I'm
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gonna
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do
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it.
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I'm
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gonna
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wear
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it
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in
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public.
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And
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then
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she
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looks
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at
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me
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and
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she
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goes,
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that's
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what
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Jesus
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is
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for.
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We
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are
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about
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normalizing
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things
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that
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are
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hard
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to
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talk
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about.
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I
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was
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like
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deer
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in
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headlights.
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Skirts
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out,
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but
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keep
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your
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pant.
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Hey
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guys,
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it's
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Samantha
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and
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Melissa
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and
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we
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are
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going
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to
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keep
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this
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intro
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really
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short
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because
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we
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are
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going
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to
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be
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sharing
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with
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you
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guys
0:44
a
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conversation
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that
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we
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had
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with
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an
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amazing
0:48
woman.
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And
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there
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was
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just
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not
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a
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single
0:51
thing
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that
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was
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even
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worthy.
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Yes.
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I
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mean,
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not
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even
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cut
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worthy,
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like
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if
0:57
that
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sounds
0:58
bad,
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but
0:59
like
0:59
not
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even
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a
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single
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thing
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that
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like
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just
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could
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have
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been.
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Like,
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it's
1:03
just.
1:03
It
1:04
was
1:04
all
1:05
so
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great.
1:07
It
1:07
was
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nothing
1:07
non
1:08
inconsequential.
1:09
It
1:09
was
1:10
all
1:10
like
1:11
valid
1:12
good
1:12
information
1:13
and
1:13
she
1:14
is
1:14
just
1:14
a
1:14
genius.
1:15
Like,
1:16
yes,
1:16
she.
1:17
She
1:17
diagnosed
1:18
me,
1:18
I
1:18
swear.
1:19
And
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I
1:19
know
1:19
technically
1:20
she
1:20
wouldn't
1:20
like
1:20
it
1:21
probably
1:21
if
1:21
I
1:21
said
1:21
that
1:22
because
1:22
she's
1:23
like,
1:23
no,
1:23
I'm
1:23
not
1:23
your
1:23
doctor
1:24
and
1:24
I
1:24
didn't
1:24
see
1:24
you
1:24
in
1:25
person,
1:25
but.
1:26
So
1:26
I'm
1:26
not
1:26
saying.
1:27
But
1:27
I'm
1:27
saying,
1:28
yeah,
1:28
it
1:28
was
1:29
like
1:29
a
1:29
little.
1:30
Yeah.
1:30
But
1:30
anyway.
1:31
Oh,
1:31
that's
1:32
so
1:32
funny.
1:32
Yeah,
1:32
it
1:32
kind
1:32
of
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reminded
1:33
me
1:33
of
1:34
something
1:34
that
1:35
like
1:35
Melissa
1:35
Walker
1:36
would
1:36
say.
1:36
I'm
1:36
not
1:36
saying,
1:37
I'm
1:37
just
1:37
saying.
1:40
That'S
1:41
hilarious.
1:42
But
1:43
it's
1:43
true.
1:44
So.
1:44
Yeah.
1:45
So
1:45
did
1:45
you
1:45
have
1:46
any
1:46
A
1:46
fail
1:46
this
1:47
week?
1:47
We'll
1:47
try
1:47
to
1:47
keep
1:47
it.
1:48
Not
1:48
really
1:49
a
1:49
fail.
1:51
It's.
1:52
We
1:52
both
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have
1:53
had
1:53
a
1:53
hectic
1:54
couple
1:54
of
1:54
days.
1:56
My
1:56
cat
1:57
that
1:57
I'm
1:57
in
1:57
love
1:58
with,
1:58
he
1:59
passed
1:59
away
2:00
a
2:00
couple
2:00
of
2:01
days
2:01
ago.
2:01
So
2:01
I
2:01
didn't
2:02
get
2:02
a
2:02
lot
2:02
of
2:02
time
2:02
with
2:03
him,
2:03
which
2:03
was
2:03
a
2:03
bummer
2:04
because
2:04
he
2:04
was
2:05
so
2:05
cool.
2:06
But
2:06
that's
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okay.
2:07
He
2:08
just.
2:08
I
2:08
don't
2:08
even
2:08
know
2:09
what
2:09
happened.
2:11
And
2:11
that's
2:11
okay.
2:11
We
2:11
buried
2:12
him
2:12
in
2:12
the
2:12
front
2:12
yard
2:12
near
2:13
my
2:13
flowers.
2:14
And.
2:17
I
2:18
mentioned
2:18
last
2:19
last
2:19
week
2:19
that
2:20
we
2:20
were
2:20
going
2:20
to
2:20
see
2:20
if
2:20
Simon
2:21
remembered
2:21
our
2:21
anniversary.
2:22
And
2:24
I
2:24
was
2:24
convinced
2:25
he
2:25
did
2:25
not
2:25
remember
2:26
it
2:26
until
2:27
last
2:27
night
2:28
before
2:28
bed
2:28
he
2:28
made
2:29
a
2:29
comment.
2:29
Is
2:30
today
2:30
your
2:30
anniversary?
2:31
Today
2:31
is
2:31
the
2:31
anniversary,
2:32
yeah.
2:32
Oh
2:32
my.
2:32
Shoot,
2:33
I
2:33
see.
2:33
I
2:33
said
2:33
that
2:34
already.
2:34
Happy
2:35
anniversary.
2:36
Thank
2:37
you.
2:37
Yeah.
2:38
So
2:38
he
2:38
did
2:39
not
2:39
forget.
2:39
And
2:40
we
2:40
are
2:40
going
2:40
to
2:40
have.
2:41
I'm
2:41
going
2:41
to
2:41
make
2:41
a
2:42
chicken.
2:43
Like
2:43
a
2:43
Cajun
2:43
chicken
2:44
Alfredo
2:45
with
2:45
like
2:45
sausage
2:45
and
2:46
spinach
2:46
tonight.
2:47
And
2:47
then
2:47
we're
2:47
going
2:47
to
2:47
do
2:47
a
2:48
chocolate
2:48
fondue
2:48
at
2:49
home
2:49
with
2:49
the
2:49
kids.
2:50
That
2:50
is
2:50
so
2:51
sweet.
2:51
That
2:51
was
2:51
his
2:52
idea.
2:52
It
2:52
was
2:52
my
2:53
idea.
2:54
But
2:54
he
2:54
did
2:54
say
2:55
last
2:55
night,
2:55
it's
2:56
our
2:56
anniversary
2:56
tomorrow.
2:57
Yeah.
2:57
Because
2:58
I
2:58
was
2:58
like,
2:58
what
2:58
do
2:58
you.
2:58
What
2:59
do
2:59
you
2:59
want
2:59
to
2:59
do.
3:00
Do
3:00
for
3:00
dinner
3:00
tomorrow?
3:02
And
3:02
he
3:03
was
3:03
like,
3:03
I
3:03
don't
3:04
know.
3:04
What
3:04
do
3:04
you
3:04
want
3:04
to
3:04
do
3:04
for
3:04
dinner?
3:05
And
3:05
then
3:05
I
3:05
just,
3:05
like,
3:06
looked
3:06
at
3:06
him,
3:06
and
3:06
he,
3:07
like,
3:07
is
3:07
looking
3:07
at
3:07
me.
3:08
And
3:08
he
3:08
goes,
3:09
I
3:09
asked
3:09
you.
3:10
And
3:10
I
3:11
was
3:11
like,
3:11
why
3:11
did
3:11
you
3:11
ask
3:12
me?
3:13
Then
3:13
I
3:13
was
3:13
like,
3:13
okay,
3:14
I
3:14
get
3:14
it.
3:15
You
3:15
didn't
3:15
forget.
3:16
That's
3:16
cute.
3:18
That's
3:18
cute.
3:19
Yeah.
3:19
Yeah.
3:20
And
3:20
you
3:21
had
3:21
a
3:21
really
3:21
hectic
3:22
morning.
3:22
It
3:22
sounds
3:23
like
3:23
I
3:23
did,
3:24
Oliver.
3:24
We
3:25
were
3:25
at
3:25
a
3:25
friend's
3:26
house,
3:26
and
3:27
we
3:27
slept
3:27
over.
3:28
And
3:29
this
3:29
morning,
3:31
I
3:31
was
3:32
out
3:32
in
3:32
the
3:32
living
3:33
room
3:33
just
3:33
kind
3:33
of,
3:33
like,
3:33
picking
3:34
up
3:34
my
3:34
stuff,
3:34
getting
3:35
ready
3:35
to
3:35
go.
3:35
And
3:36
he
3:36
ate
3:37
what
3:37
I
3:37
found
3:38
out
3:38
later
3:38
was
3:38
a
3:38
roach
3:39
trap.
3:40
A
3:41
little
3:41
bait
3:41
motel
3:41
thing.
3:43
And
3:43
long
3:43
story
3:44
short,
3:45
we're
3:45
just
3:45
gonna
3:45
monitor
3:46
him.
3:46
But
3:48
it
3:48
was
3:49
a
3:49
good
3:49
two
3:49
hours
3:50
of
3:50
stress
3:50
and,
3:51
like,
3:51
phone
3:51
calls
3:52
and
3:52
googling
3:53
and.
3:55
Which
3:55
you
3:55
also
3:55
learned
3:56
the
3:56
really,
3:56
like,
3:57
stupid,
3:57
unfortunate
3:58
part
3:58
of
4:01
when
4:01
they're.
4:01
Poison
4:02
control.
4:02
Yes.
4:03
Poison
4:03
control.
4:04
I
4:04
was
4:04
gonna
4:05
share
4:05
that,
4:05
but
4:05
I
4:05
was
4:05
afraid
4:06
of
4:06
taking
4:06
too
4:06
long.
4:06
Okay.
4:07
No,
4:07
I
4:08
think
4:08
that.
4:08
That
4:09
a
4:09
lot
4:09
of
4:09
people
4:09
don't
4:09
actually
4:10
know,
4:10
like,
4:10
how
4:11
shitty
4:11
that
4:12
whole
4:12
thing
4:12
is.
4:12
So.
4:13
Yeah.
4:14
So
4:14
basically,
4:15
I
4:15
was
4:15
talking
4:15
to
4:15
my
4:16
vet,
4:16
and
4:16
she
4:16
was
4:17
just
4:17
like,
4:17
look,
4:18
if
4:18
it's
4:18
this
4:18
one
4:18
ingredient,
4:19
then
4:19
this
4:20
is
4:20
what
4:20
we
4:20
would
4:20
do.
4:20
But
4:21
since
4:21
it
4:21
was
4:21
this
4:21
other
4:22
ingredient,
4:22
it's
4:23
more
4:23
toxins.
4:24
Toxic.
4:24
You
4:24
should
4:25
call
4:25
Poison
4:25
Control.
4:25
Or
4:26
we
4:26
can
4:26
do
4:26
it
4:26
for
4:26
you.
4:27
It
4:27
is
4:27
$95.
4:28
You
4:29
can
4:29
call
4:29
them
4:29
yourself.
4:30
So
4:30
I
4:30
called
4:31
myself,
4:31
and
4:31
then
4:32
on
4:32
the
4:32
phone,
4:32
it
4:32
was
4:32
g.
4:32
It
4:33
was
4:33
like
4:33
a
4:33
recorded
4:33
message,
4:34
and
4:34
it
4:34
said,
4:34
okay,
4:34
it's
4:35
going
4:35
to
4:35
be
4:35
$85.
4:36
And
4:36
I
4:36
was
4:36
like,
4:36
okay.
4:36
So
4:37
I
4:37
saved
4:37
myself
4:37
$10.
4:38
Great.
4:39
But
4:39
then
4:39
it
4:39
said,
4:40
but
4:40
if
4:41
you're
4:41
not
4:41
an
4:42
actual
4:42
vet,
4:42
like,
4:43
we
4:43
in
4:43
the
4:43
state.
4:43
No,
4:44
it
4:44
said,
4:44
if
4:44
you
4:44
live
4:45
in
4:45
the
4:45
state
4:45
of
4:45
Georgia,
4:46
we
4:46
cannot
4:47
talk
4:47
to
4:48
you
4:48
about
4:48
your
4:48
pet.
4:49
We
4:49
have
4:49
to
4:49
talk
4:49
to
4:49
your
4:50
vet
4:50
so
4:50
we
4:50
can
4:50
start
4:50
a
4:51
case
4:52
and
4:52
send
4:52
it
4:52
to
4:52
your
4:52
vet.
4:53
And
4:53
I
4:53
just
4:53
hung
4:53
up.
4:53
Because
4:54
I
4:54
was
4:54
like,
4:54
this
4:54
is
4:54
ridiculous.
4:55
I'm
4:55
not
4:55
paying
4:56
$85.
4:58
If
4:58
I'm
4:58
gonna
4:58
pay
4:58
the
4:59
money,
4:59
I'll
4:59
just
4:59
have
4:59
my
4:59
vet
5:00
do
5:00
the
5:00
whole
5:00
thing.
5:01
Right.
5:02
Because
5:02
they
5:02
won't
5:03
talk
5:03
to
5:03
me.
5:04
Yeah,
5:04
and
5:04
you're
5:04
gonna
5:04
have
5:05
to
5:05
do
5:05
a
5:05
visit
5:05
anyways.
5:06
Like.
5:07
Well,
5:07
and
5:08
that
5:08
pissed
5:08
me
5:08
off,
5:09
too,
5:09
because
5:09
it's
5:09
an
5:09
emergency
5:10
number.
5:11
How
5:11
is
5:11
it,
5:11
like,
5:12
treating
5:12
anything
5:13
like
5:13
an
5:13
emergency
5:14
if
5:14
you're
5:14
like,
5:14
oh,
5:14
we're
5:14
starting
5:15
a
5:15
case.
5:16
Yeah,
5:16
pay
5:17
us.
5:17
Yeah.
5:18
It's
5:19
bizarre.
5:19
I
5:19
never
5:20
understood.
5:20
I
5:21
never
5:21
understood
5:21
it
5:21
because
5:22
there's
5:22
poison.
5:23
Control
5:23
for
5:23
humans,
5:24
and
5:24
it's
5:24
free.
5:26
Oh,
5:26
yeah.
5:27
That's
5:27
how
5:27
I
5:28
ended
5:28
up
5:28
in
5:28
the
5:28
hospital
5:28
the
5:29
very
5:29
first
5:29
time.
5:31
But
5:32
that's
5:32
another
5:32
story.
5:32
You
5:33
guys
5:33
have
5:33
heard
5:33
that
5:33
story,
5:34
but
5:34
yeah.
5:36
Yeah.
5:36
It's
5:37
just
5:37
crazy
5:38
because
5:38
it's.
5:40
It's
5:40
your
5:40
baby.
5:41
You're
5:41
all
5:41
stressed.
5:42
It's
5:42
an
5:42
emergency.
5:43
Poison
5:44
control
5:44
needs
5:44
to
5:45
be,
5:45
like,
5:45
a.
5:47
A
5:47
501C
5:48
type.
5:49
I
5:49
think
5:49
so.
5:50
Yeah.
5:50
Because
5:51
it's
5:51
not.
5:52
If
5:52
it's
5:52
an
5:52
emergency,
5:53
it's
5:53
an
5:53
emergency.
5:53
We're
5:54
not
5:54
sitting
5:55
here.
5:56
Pay
5:56
for
5:56
us
5:56
to
5:56
tell
5:57
you
5:57
if
5:57
it's
5:57
toxic.
5:58
Like,
5:58
that's.
5:58
That's
5:59
stupid.
5:59
Even
5:59
if
6:00
I
6:00
had
6:00
to
6:00
pay,
6:00
sure,
6:01
whatever.
6:01
But
6:01
don't
6:02
say,
6:02
like,
6:02
I
6:02
can't
6:03
even
6:03
talk
6:03
to
6:03
you.
6:03
We're
6:04
just
6:04
going
6:04
to
6:04
start
6:04
a
6:04
case,
6:04
and
6:05
then
6:05
we'll
6:05
start,
6:05
like,
6:06
a
6:06
whole
6:06
bureaucratic
6:06
chain
6:07
of
6:07
events.
6:07
Like,
6:08
that's
6:08
just
6:08
ridiculous.
6:09
Yeah,
6:09
it's
6:09
wild.
6:10
Anyway,
6:11
I'm
6:12
glad
6:12
he's
6:12
doing
6:12
well
6:12
now,
6:13
and
6:13
I
6:13
hope
6:13
that
6:13
he
6:13
continues
6:14
to
6:14
do
6:14
well.
6:15
Thank
6:15
you.
6:15
And
6:16
I'm
6:16
glad.
6:16
You
6:17
probably
6:17
need
6:17
to
6:18
tell
6:18
us
6:18
who
6:19
you're
6:19
holding
6:19
in
6:19
your
6:19
arms,
6:20
because
6:20
you
6:21
mentioned
6:21
that
6:22
Jinx
6:23
has
6:23
passed,
6:24
but,
6:24
yes,
6:25
Jinx
6:26
died.
6:26
And
6:27
then
6:28
the
6:28
other
6:28
kitten
6:29
that
6:29
had
6:29
shown
6:29
up,
6:29
Karma,
6:30
she
6:31
just
6:32
got
6:32
really,
6:33
really
6:33
needy,
6:33
like,
6:34
loud,
6:35
following
6:35
us
6:35
around,
6:35
scratching
6:36
at
6:36
the
6:36
door,
6:37
meowing.
6:38
But
6:38
then
6:38
if
6:38
we
6:38
pick
6:38
her
6:39
up,
6:39
she
6:39
doesn't
6:39
want
6:39
to
6:39
be
6:39
held.
6:40
She
6:40
just
6:40
wants
6:41
down
6:41
and
6:41
then
6:41
just
6:41
Merls
6:42
at
6:42
us
6:42
again.
6:42
And
6:42
it's
6:42
like,
6:42
I
6:43
don't
6:43
know
6:43
what
6:43
you
6:43
want.
6:43
So
6:44
Simon
6:44
goes,
6:44
I
6:44
think
6:45
she
6:45
needs
6:45
another
6:45
friend.
6:46
And
6:46
so
6:46
he
6:46
made
6:46
me
6:47
get
6:47
another
6:47
kitten.
6:47
And
6:48
this
6:49
is
6:49
Cosmo.
6:50
I
6:50
mean,
6:51
Cosmo
6:51
is
6:52
freaking
6:52
amazing.
6:54
I.
6:56
Most
6:57
cats
6:57
or
6:57
kittens,
6:58
yes,
6:58
there's
6:59
some
6:59
cuddly
6:59
ones,
6:59
but
6:59
it's
7:00
more
7:00
on
7:00
the
7:00
rare
7:01
side.
7:01
Usually
7:02
they're
7:02
cuddly
7:03
on
7:03
their
7:03
terms
7:04
when
7:04
they
7:04
want
7:04
to
7:04
be
7:05
held.
7:05
And
7:06
I
7:06
feel
7:06
like
7:06
you're,
7:06
like,
7:07
the
7:07
one
7:07
in
7:07
charge
7:08
of
7:08
this,
7:08
and
7:08
you're
7:08
like,
7:09
hey,
7:09
I
7:09
want
7:09
to
7:09
hold
7:09
you.
7:10
Come
7:10
fall
7:10
asleep
7:11
in
7:11
my
7:11
arms.
7:11
And
7:11
he
7:11
did.
7:13
Yeah.
7:14
He's
7:14
so
7:14
sticky.
7:15
Cute,
7:15
Sam.
7:15
He
7:16
loves
7:16
you.
7:16
Pretty
7:16
sure
7:16
he's
7:17
out,
7:17
so.
7:19
What
7:19
do
7:19
you
7:19
mean
7:19
out?
7:19
Oh,
7:20
sleep.
7:20
Yeah,
7:20
yeah,
7:21
yeah,
7:22
yeah.
7:23
So
7:23
anyway,
7:24
well,
7:24
I'm
7:24
glad
7:25
that
7:25
you.
7:26
So
7:26
we're.
7:26
We're
7:26
all
7:27
in
7:27
a
7:27
good
7:27
place
7:27
for
7:27
a
7:27
minute.
7:28
Yeah.
7:30
Yeah.
7:30
Probably
7:30
a
7:31
good
7:31
time
7:31
to
7:31
turn
7:31
it
7:31
over
7:31
to
7:32
the
7:32
doctor,
7:33
the
7:33
professional.
7:34
That's
7:35
right.
7:43
I
7:43
don't
7:43
think
7:43
there's
7:44
anything
7:44
more
7:44
interesting
7:45
than
7:45
neurology
7:46
and
7:46
the
7:47
brain
7:47
and,
7:47
you
7:47
know,
7:48
how
7:48
the
7:48
brain
7:48
and
7:48
emotions
7:49
work.
7:50
No,
7:50
but
7:50
it
7:50
is
7:50
mainly
7:51
interesting.
7:52
Oh,
7:52
I
7:52
think
7:52
she's
7:52
being
7:52
serious.
7:54
I
7:54
am,
7:55
Yeah.
7:55
I
7:56
thought
7:56
you
7:56
were
7:56
being
7:56
facetious,
7:57
and
7:57
I
7:57
was
7:57
like,
7:57
no,
7:58
it
7:58
is.
7:59
Yes,
8:00
it
8:00
is.
8:01
So
8:01
riveting.
8:02
Had
8:02
a
8:02
neurologic
8:03
symptom
8:03
then,
8:03
you
8:04
know,
8:04
and
8:04
you've
8:04
been
8:04
down
8:05
that
8:05
road
8:05
of
8:06
trying
8:06
to
8:06
find
8:07
a
8:07
doctor.
8:07
Yeah,
8:08
exactly.
8:09
You've
8:09
got
8:09
enough
8:09
neurologists
8:10
and
8:10
some
8:11
people
8:11
wait
8:12
three
8:12
to
8:12
six
8:12
months
8:13
to
8:13
get
8:13
a
8:13
consult,
8:14
and
8:15
it's.
8:15
It.
8:15
It
8:16
can
8:16
be
8:16
challenging.
8:17
Ooh,
8:18
that's
8:18
interesting
8:18
you
8:19
say
8:19
that,
8:19
because
8:19
I
8:19
forgot
8:20
I
8:20
was
8:20
going
8:20
to
8:21
meet
8:21
with
8:21
a
8:21
neurologist,
8:22
and
8:22
it
8:23
was
8:23
that.
8:23
Long
8:23
out
8:24
of
8:24
a.
8:24
Of
8:24
a
8:26
weight.
8:28
In
8:28
the
8:29
end,
8:29
my
8:30
insurance
8:30
didn't
8:30
cover
8:31
what
8:31
I
8:31
was
8:31
hoping
8:31
it
8:31
would,
8:31
and
8:32
I
8:32
didn't
8:32
go,
8:32
but
8:35
wow.
8:36
Yeah.
8:37
I
8:37
guess
8:37
there's
8:37
just
8:37
not
8:38
as
8:38
many
8:38
of
8:38
you.
8:39
Yeah,
8:40
there's
8:40
not
8:40
as
8:40
many
8:40
of
8:41
us.
8:41
Right.
8:42
Is
8:42
it
8:42
because
8:42
it's
8:43
just
8:43
so
8:43
demanding
8:44
and
8:44
it's
8:45
my.
8:45
Yeah,
8:46
yeah.
8:47
I
8:47
just
8:47
remembered
8:47
my
8:48
cousin's
8:48
a
8:48
neurologist.
8:49
Oh,
8:50
okay.
8:51
Well,
8:51
you
8:51
know,
8:52
neurology
8:53
is
8:53
one
8:53
of
8:53
those
8:55
fields
8:55
in
8:55
medicine
8:56
where
8:56
you
8:57
either
8:57
love
8:57
it
8:58
or
8:58
you
8:58
hate
8:58
it.
8:59
And
8:59
people
9:00
often
9:00
hate
9:00
it
9:00
because
9:01
of
9:02
the
9:03
intricacy
9:04
of
9:04
knowing
9:04
the
9:05
whole
9:05
nervous
9:05
system
9:06
and
9:07
studying
9:07
it.
9:07
And
9:08
there's
9:08
a
9:08
certain
9:09
kind
9:09
of
9:09
brain,
9:10
I
9:10
think,
9:11
that
9:11
is
9:12
drawn
9:12
to
9:12
neurology.
9:13
It's
9:13
people
9:14
that
9:14
like
9:14
to
9:14
solve
9:14
puzzles
9:15
and
9:16
people
9:16
that
9:17
like
9:17
to
9:18
intellectualize
9:19
concepts,
9:20
as
9:20
opposed
9:20
to
9:21
a
9:21
surgeon
9:22
that
9:22
wants
9:22
to
9:22
do
9:22
something
9:23
with
9:23
their
9:23
hands
9:23
and
9:24
start
9:24
something
9:24
and
9:24
finish
9:25
it
9:25
and
9:25
then
9:25
be
9:25
done
9:25
with
9:26
it.
9:26
Right.
9:27
I
9:28
talk
9:28
about
9:28
different
9:29
personalities.
9:30
There's
9:30
a
9:31
dermatology
9:31
personality.
9:32
There's
9:33
a
9:33
surgeon's
9:33
personality.
9:34
There's
9:35
a
9:35
personality
9:36
that
9:36
likes
9:37
more
9:38
complex
9:39
intellectual
9:39
pursuits,
9:40
where
9:40
you're
9:41
going
9:41
to
9:41
spend
9:41
an
9:41
hour
9:42
just
9:42
getting
9:42
a
9:43
history
9:43
from
9:43
the
9:43
patient
9:44
to
9:44
put
9:44
things
9:44
together
9:45
and
9:46
more.
9:46
The
9:47
oncologist,
9:47
the
9:48
rheumatologist,
9:48
the
9:49
infectious
9:49
disease
9:50
specialists,
9:50
neurologists,
9:51
they're
9:52
people
9:52
that
9:52
are
9:53
using
9:53
their
9:53
brains
9:54
as
9:54
opposed
9:55
to
9:56
being
9:56
more
9:56
procedure
9:57
oriented.
9:58
Yeah.
9:59
Neurology
10:00
would
10:00
drive,
10:00
for
10:01
instance,
10:01
a
10:01
person
10:02
with
10:02
a
10:02
typical
10:02
surgeon's
10:03
personality.
10:03
It
10:03
would
10:04
probably
10:04
drive
10:04
them
10:04
crazy.
10:06
They
10:06
just
10:06
want
10:06
to
10:07
fix
10:07
it
10:07
and
10:08
can
10:08
always
10:09
just
10:09
fix
10:09
it.
10:09
In
10:09
neurology,
10:11
it's
10:12
interesting.
10:12
There's
10:12
probably.
10:13
There's
10:13
so
10:13
much
10:14
still
10:14
research
10:14
going
10:15
on
10:15
even
10:16
that
10:16
we
10:16
don't
10:17
know.
10:17
Right.
10:18
Tremendous
10:18
amount
10:18
of
10:19
research
10:19
going
10:19
on.
10:21
Every
10:21
day
10:21
there's
10:21
something
10:22
new
10:22
in
10:22
neurology,
10:22
and
10:23
we're
10:23
learning
10:23
more.
10:23
And
10:24
our
10:24
MRIs
10:25
are
10:25
getting
10:25
more
10:25
and
10:25
more
10:26
sophisticated,
10:27
so
10:27
we
10:27
can
10:27
see
10:27
things
10:28
that
10:28
we
10:28
couldn't
10:29
see
10:29
before.
10:29
You
10:30
know,
10:30
we
10:31
can
10:31
see
10:31
functional
10:32
problems
10:32
with
10:32
the
10:33
brain.
10:33
We
10:33
can
10:33
see
10:34
where
10:34
one
10:35
part
10:35
of
10:35
the
10:35
brain
10:36
isn't
10:36
lighting
10:37
up
10:37
as
10:37
well
10:37
when
10:37
you
10:37
do
10:38
a
10:38
task
10:38
as
10:38
another.
10:39
So
10:39
you
10:40
can
10:40
kind
10:40
of
10:40
see
10:41
connectivity
10:42
in
10:42
a
10:42
brain,
10:43
and
10:43
not
10:43
everybody's
10:44
connectivity
10:44
is
10:45
the
10:45
same.
10:46
Okay.
10:47
And
10:49
whereas
10:50
before,
10:50
when
10:50
we
10:51
only
10:51
had
10:51
structural
10:52
MRIs,
10:53
like
10:53
in
10:53
the
10:53
early
10:54
years
10:54
of
10:54
MRIs,
10:55
we
10:55
could
10:56
see
10:56
if
10:56
there
10:56
was
10:56
a
10:56
structural
10:57
abnormality,
10:58
if
10:58
there
10:58
was
10:58
a
10:59
tumor,
10:59
if
11:00
there
11:00
was
11:00
a
11:01
stroke,
11:01
we
11:01
could
11:01
see
11:02
those
11:02
things.
11:02
But
11:03
now
11:03
with
11:03
functional
11:04
MRIs,
11:05
we
11:05
can
11:06
see
11:06
what
11:07
part
11:07
of
11:07
the
11:07
brain
11:08
you're
11:08
utilizing
11:08
when
11:09
you
11:09
do
11:09
a
11:09
task.
11:10
Oh,
11:10
my
11:11
goodness.
11:11
The
11:11
connectivity
11:12
between
11:12
parts
11:13
of
11:13
the
11:13
brain.
11:14
And
11:15
it's
11:16
interesting
11:16
when
11:16
we
11:17
talk
11:17
about
11:18
something
11:18
like
11:19
functional
11:20
seizures.
11:21
These
11:22
are
11:22
seizures
11:22
that
11:23
occur
11:24
that
11:24
are
11:24
not
11:24
epileptic.
11:25
In
11:25
other
11:26
words,
11:28
they're
11:28
very
11:28
real,
11:30
just
11:30
as
11:30
real
11:30
as
11:31
any
11:31
seizure.
11:32
They're
11:32
out
11:32
of
11:33
the
11:33
control
11:33
of
11:33
the
11:33
patient
11:34
like
11:34
any
11:34
seizure,
11:35
but
11:35
they're
11:36
not
11:36
due
11:36
to
11:36
an
11:36
electrical
11:37
disturbance.
11:38
And
11:38
these
11:38
are
11:39
what,
11:39
Sam,
11:40
you
11:40
were
11:40
having,
11:40
right?
11:42
I
11:43
think
11:43
so.
11:43
Right.
11:44
Psychological,
11:44
Non
11:45
epileptic.
11:46
Yes.
11:47
Yeah.
11:47
Wow.
11:48
Yes.
11:48
So.
11:49
But
11:49
they
11:49
are
11:49
real
11:50
seizures.
11:50
They're
11:50
just
11:50
not
11:51
coming
11:51
from,
11:51
like,
11:52
misfiring
11:53
neurons
11:53
or
11:53
what
11:53
would.
11:54
Maybe
11:54
I
11:54
just
11:54
completely
11:55
butchered
11:55
that
11:55
whole
11:56
sentence.
11:57
Coming
11:58
from
11:59
abnormal
12:00
electrical
12:00
activity.
12:01
So,
12:01
okay,
12:02
filled
12:02
with
12:02
electrical
12:03
activity.
12:04
And
12:04
when
12:04
someone
12:04
has
12:05
a
12:05
seizure
12:06
and
12:06
there's
12:06
a
12:06
spark,
12:08
and
12:08
then
12:08
the
12:09
whole
12:09
brain
12:09
goes
12:10
up
12:10
in
12:10
this
12:10
electrical
12:11
storm.
12:11
And
12:11
if
12:12
we
12:12
are
12:12
doing
12:12
an
12:13
EEG
12:13
where
12:13
we're
12:14
recording
12:14
brain
12:15
waves,
12:15
all
12:16
of
12:16
a
12:16
sudden,
12:16
instead
12:16
of
12:17
like
12:17
this,
12:17
it
12:17
starts
12:17
to
12:18
fire
12:18
like
12:18
this,
12:19
and
12:20
it
12:20
makes
12:21
all
12:21
the
12:22
motor
12:22
nerves
12:22
in
12:23
your
12:23
body
12:23
start
12:23
to
12:24
contract
12:24
and
12:24
shake
12:25
and
12:25
you
12:25
lose
12:25
consciousness.
12:26
When
12:27
you
12:27
say
12:27
like
12:27
this,
12:27
you're
12:27
talking
12:28
like
12:28
fireworks.
12:29
Yes,
12:29
like
12:30
fireworks.
12:30
So
12:31
when
12:31
someone
12:31
has
12:31
an
12:32
epileptic
12:32
seizure,
12:33
which
12:33
is
12:33
a
12:33
seizure
12:34
due
12:34
to
12:35
abnormal
12:36
electrical
12:36
activity
12:36
of
12:37
the
12:37
brain,
12:38
our
12:38
brain
12:38
is
12:38
filled
12:39
with
12:39
electrical
12:39
activity.
12:40
So
12:40
that's
12:40
how
12:40
we.
12:41
We
12:41
function.
12:42
We
12:42
have
12:42
more
12:43
electrical
12:43
activity
12:44
when
12:44
we're
12:44
awake.
12:45
When
12:45
we're
12:46
asleep,
12:46
it
12:46
slows
12:47
down.
12:47
Okay.
12:48
And
12:49
when
12:50
someone
12:50
has
12:50
a
12:50
seizure,
12:52
there's
12:52
a
12:52
disruption
12:53
in
12:53
this
12:53
electrical
12:54
circuit.
12:54
And
12:54
all
12:54
of
12:55
a
12:55
sudden
12:55
there's
12:55
a
12:55
spark.
12:56
Like
12:56
a
12:57
short
12:57
circuit.
12:59
That
12:59
spark
12:59
happens,
13:00
keeps
13:00
going.
13:01
The
13:02
whole
13:02
circuit
13:02
goes
13:03
up
13:03
in
13:04
this
13:04
electrical
13:04
storm.
13:05
And
13:06
that's
13:06
not
13:06
compatible
13:07
with
13:07
consciousness.
13:08
Interesting.
13:09
I
13:10
actually
13:10
would
13:10
have.
13:11
I
13:11
don't
13:11
know
13:11
why
13:11
I
13:12
would
13:12
have.
13:12
Thought
13:12
it
13:12
would
13:12
be
13:12
the
13:13
opposite.
13:13
Like,
13:14
oh,
13:14
there's
13:14
a
13:14
spark
13:15
and
13:15
then
13:15
it
13:15
goes
13:15
dead.
13:16
Like,
13:17
but
13:17
really,
13:18
it's
13:18
like,
13:18
maybe
13:18
Too
13:19
much
13:19
is.
13:19
Yeah.
13:20
Electrical
13:21
storm.
13:21
People
13:21
start
13:21
to
13:22
shake
13:22
and
13:22
have
13:22
what
13:23
you
13:23
see
13:23
as
13:23
a
13:24
convulsion.
13:24
Okay.
13:25
Okay.
13:26
Yeah.
13:26
What
13:27
was
13:27
really
13:27
fun
13:27
when
13:27
I
13:28
had
13:28
the
13:28
video
13:28
EEG
13:29
is
13:29
like
13:30
those
13:30
things
13:30
pick
13:31
up
13:31
every
13:31
little
13:32
movement.
13:32
So
13:33
like
13:33
if
13:33
I
13:34
picked
13:34
up
13:35
a
13:35
pen,
13:35
like
13:35
you
13:35
would
13:36
see
13:36
like
13:36
changes
13:37
in
13:37
the,
13:38
in
13:38
the,
13:39
I
13:39
don't
13:40
know.
13:40
The
13:40
brain,
13:41
the
13:41
motor
13:41
area.
13:42
Yeah.
13:43
Wow.
13:44
Every
13:44
blink,
13:45
like
13:45
it
13:45
would
13:45
like
13:46
make
13:46
another
13:46
like
13:46
tick
13:47
of
13:47
some
13:47
sort.
13:47
And
13:47
I
13:48
was
13:48
like,
13:48
whoa,
13:48
that's
13:49
interesting.
13:49
I
13:49
don't
13:49
know
13:49
how
13:50
anyone
13:50
could
13:50
read
13:50
this.
13:53
That
13:54
amazing
13:55
burst
13:55
of
13:55
electrical
13:56
activity,
13:56
it
13:57
stops
13:58
and
13:58
then
13:58
the
13:58
brain
13:59
has
13:59
to
13:59
recharge.
14:00
So
14:01
the
14:01
electrical
14:01
activity
14:02
that
14:02
was
14:02
like
14:02
this
14:02
gets
14:03
really
14:03
slow
14:04
because
14:04
it's
14:05
recharging.
14:06
And
14:06
that's
14:06
what
14:06
we
14:07
call
14:07
a
14:07
postictal
14:08
state
14:08
where
14:08
after
14:09
seizure
14:09
people
14:10
are
14:10
very
14:10
tired
14:11
and
14:11
they
14:11
want
14:11
to
14:12
sleep.
14:12
Their
14:12
brain
14:13
is
14:13
almost
14:14
asleep,
14:14
they're
14:15
tired
14:15
and
14:15
they've
14:15
got
14:15
to
14:15
recharge.
14:18
How
14:18
come
14:18
I
14:18
experience
14:19
that,
14:19
like
14:21
pre.
14:22
Precal
14:23
brain,
14:23
like
14:24
where
14:24
I'm
14:24
very
14:25
tired,
14:25
I'm
14:25
very
14:25
cold,
14:27
like
14:27
I
14:27
got
14:27
to
14:28
sleep
14:28
it
14:28
off,
14:28
warm
14:28
up.
14:29
That's
14:29
a
14:29
good
14:29
question.
14:30
If
14:31
it
14:31
wasn't
14:31
from
14:31
neurons
14:32
in
14:32
your
14:32
brain.
14:33
Yeah,
14:33
well,
14:34
it's.
14:35
They
14:35
can
14:35
absolutely
14:36
mimic
14:37
100%
14:38
a
14:38
true
14:38
epileptic
14:39
seizure.
14:40
And
14:40
we
14:40
don't
14:41
exactly
14:41
know
14:42
exactly
14:43
why.
14:44
But
14:44
getting
14:44
Back
14:45
to
14:45
the
14:45
MRIs,
14:46
now
14:46
that
14:47
we
14:47
have
14:47
functional
14:47
MRIs,
14:48
they
14:49
have
14:49
shown
14:50
that
14:50
in.
14:50
People
14:50
then
14:53
manifest
14:53
their
14:54
stress
14:55
in
14:55
the
14:55
form
14:55
of
14:55
something
14:56
like
14:57
what
14:57
we
14:57
call
14:57
a
14:58
functional
14:58
or
14:58
non
14:58
epileptic
14:59
seizure.
15:00
That's
15:00
like
15:01
a
15:01
stress
15:02
response.
15:04
We
15:05
find
15:05
in
15:05
these
15:06
functional
15:06
MRIs
15:07
that
15:07
the
15:08
emotional
15:09
part
15:10
of
15:10
the
15:10
brain
15:10
where
15:10
you
15:11
feel
15:11
emotions
15:12
and
15:12
you
15:12
deal
15:12
with
15:12
emotions
15:13
isn't
15:14
connecting
15:15
well
15:15
to
15:16
the
15:17
area
15:17
of
15:17
the
15:17
brain
15:18
responsible
15:18
for
15:19
consciousness.
15:20
Okay.
15:21
You
15:21
can
15:21
be
15:22
stressed
15:23
and
15:23
not
15:23
know
15:24
you're
15:24
stressed.
15:25
You
15:25
know,
15:25
some
15:26
of
15:26
us
15:26
will
15:26
say,
15:26
oh,
15:27
I
15:27
just
15:27
feel
15:27
so
15:27
stressed
15:28
right
15:28
now,
15:28
I
15:28
just
15:29
want
15:29
to
15:29
scream.
15:29
Or
15:30
I'm
15:30
going
15:30
to
15:30
go.
15:31
Or
15:31
I'm
15:32
going
15:32
to
15:32
find
15:32
some
15:33
other
15:33
kind
15:33
of
15:33
coping
15:34
mechanism.
15:35
People
15:36
that
15:37
would
15:37
have
15:37
this
15:38
type
15:38
of
15:38
response,
15:39
they
15:40
don't
15:40
know
15:40
that
15:40
they're
15:41
stressed.
15:41
Or
15:42
maybe
15:42
they
15:42
might,
15:44
they
15:44
don't
15:44
realize
15:45
they're
15:45
at
15:45
the
15:46
brink
15:46
of
15:47
overload.
15:48
Overload
15:49
where
15:50
it's
15:50
like
15:50
a
15:50
circuit
15:51
breaker
15:51
is
15:53
thrown
15:53
and
15:53
they're,
15:54
they're
15:54
overloaded
15:55
and
15:56
they're
15:56
not
15:56
consciously
15:57
aware
15:57
of
15:57
it
15:58
because
15:58
their
15:58
emotional
15:59
part
15:59
of
15:59
the
15:59
brain
15:59
isn't
16:00
communicating
16:00
well
16:01
with
16:01
consciousness.
16:02
Oh,
16:02
that
16:02
makes
16:02
sense.
16:03
Because
16:03
it
16:03
did
16:03
take
16:04
a
16:04
while
16:04
to
16:05
figure
16:05
out
16:06
before
16:06
you
16:06
get
16:07
to
16:07
this
16:07
level,
16:08
how
16:09
can
16:09
we
16:09
de.
16:09
Escalate.
16:10
And
16:10
I
16:10
was
16:10
like,
16:10
I
16:10
don't
16:11
know.
16:11
I
16:11
Feel
16:11
calm.
16:12
I.
16:12
Like,
16:12
I
16:12
don't
16:12
know.
16:13
Yes,
16:14
exactly.
16:14
You
16:14
don't,
16:14
you
16:14
don't
16:15
know.
16:15
Whoa.
16:16
It
16:16
reminds
16:16
me
16:16
of
16:17
like,
16:17
people
16:17
who
16:17
don't
16:18
have
16:18
the
16:18
sense
16:18
of
16:19
like,
16:19
touch
16:19
and
16:19
feel
16:20
and
16:20
they
16:21
touch
16:21
a
16:21
burner
16:21
or
16:22
whatnot.
16:22
That's
16:22
the,
16:22
like,
16:23
you
16:23
hear
16:23
that
16:24
all
16:24
the
16:24
time.
16:24
Like
16:24
they'll
16:24
touch
16:25
a
16:25
burner
16:25
and
16:25
they
16:25
won't
16:25
know
16:25
and
16:26
they'll
16:26
have
16:26
a
16:26
burnt
16:27
hand.
16:27
And
16:27
it's
16:28
like
16:28
you
16:29
have
16:29
no
16:29
idea
16:29
what's
16:30
going
16:30
on
16:30
until
16:30
it's
16:30
already
16:31
too
16:31
dangerous.
16:32
Yeah.
16:32
No
16:32
one
16:33
has
16:33
ever
16:33
explained
16:34
that
16:34
because
16:34
it
16:35
was
16:35
really
16:35
confusing
16:36
how,
16:38
like,
16:38
literally
16:39
I'm
16:39
calm.
16:40
But
16:40
like,
16:41
one
16:42
of
16:42
the
16:42
things
16:42
that
16:42
I
16:43
was
16:43
able
16:43
to
16:43
pick
16:43
up
16:43
is
16:44
even
16:44
though
16:44
I'm
16:44
calm,
16:45
is
16:45
noticing
16:45
that,
16:45
like,
16:46
if
16:46
I'm
16:46
at
16:46
a
16:46
table
16:47
with
16:47
a
16:47
bunch
16:47
of
16:47
people,
16:48
all
16:48
of
16:49
a
16:49
sudden
16:49
I
16:49
realize
16:50
that,
16:50
like,
16:50
everyone's
16:51
moving
16:51
slower
16:51
than
16:52
I
16:52
know
16:52
they're
16:52
moving
16:53
and
16:53
I
16:53
see
16:53
their
16:53
mouth
16:54
moving,
16:54
but
16:54
I'm
16:55
not
16:55
able
16:55
to
16:55
process
16:55
what
16:56
they're
16:56
saying.
16:57
And
16:57
so
16:58
I
16:58
was
16:58
able
16:58
to
16:58
start
16:59
being
16:59
like,
16:59
oh,
16:59
that's
16:59
not
16:59
normal.
17:00
Oh,
17:00
I
17:00
probably
17:01
need
17:01
to
17:01
remove
17:01
myself.
17:02
Yeah,
17:03
exactly.
17:04
Like,
17:04
you're
17:04
not
17:04
conscious
17:05
of
17:05
it,
17:05
but
17:05
something's
17:06
happening
17:06
to
17:06
you.
17:07
And
17:07
now
17:07
you're
17:08
recognizing
17:08
the
17:09
symptoms
17:09
and
17:09
signs
17:10
as
17:10
it's
17:10
happening.
17:12
And
17:12
you
17:13
can
17:13
try
17:13
to
17:14
develop
17:14
other
17:15
coping
17:15
mechanisms.
17:17
Okay,
17:17
I'm
17:17
overloaded.
17:18
You
17:18
might
17:18
not
17:18
even
17:18
know
17:18
why
17:19
you're
17:19
overloaded.
17:20
You
17:20
might,
17:21
you
17:21
might
17:21
be
17:21
in
17:21
a.
17:22
It's
17:22
like
17:22
when
17:22
someone
17:22
has
17:22
a
17:23
panic
17:23
attack.
17:24
They're
17:24
not,
17:24
they
17:25
don't
17:25
usually
17:25
have
17:25
a
17:25
panic
17:26
attack
17:27
when
17:27
they're
17:27
in
17:27
the
17:27
throes
17:28
of
17:28
an
17:29
argument.
17:30
They're
17:30
going
17:30
to
17:30
have
17:30
that
17:31
panic
17:31
attack
17:31
when
17:32
they're
17:32
sitting,
17:33
eating
17:33
popcorn,
17:33
watching
17:34
a
17:34
movie
17:34
with
17:34
a
17:35
friend.
17:36
So
17:36
true.
17:37
Yeah.
17:37
And
17:38
they
17:38
were
17:38
like
17:38
before
17:38
going
17:39
to
17:39
meet
17:39
the
17:39
person
17:39
maybe
17:40
you've
17:40
had
17:40
an
17:40
argument
17:41
with
17:41
before.
17:42
Yes.
17:44
But
17:44
they're
17:44
overloaded
17:45
for
17:46
a
17:46
variety
17:46
of
17:46
reasons.
17:47
It
17:47
can
17:47
be
17:47
low
17:48
grade
17:48
stress
17:48
in
17:48
your
17:48
life.
17:49
It
17:49
can
17:49
be
17:49
old
17:49
trauma
17:50
that
17:50
you
17:50
never
17:51
consciously
17:52
dealt
17:52
with,
17:52
but
17:53
it's
17:53
still
17:53
there.
17:54
It's,
17:54
it's
17:54
in,
17:54
it's
17:55
in
17:55
your
17:55
subconscious.
17:57
And
17:57
it
17:57
doesn't
17:57
take
17:58
much
17:58
then
17:58
to
17:59
tip
17:59
you
17:59
off.
17:59
Some
18:00
little
18:00
thing
18:00
could
18:00
happen,
18:01
something
18:01
in
18:01
traffic
18:02
or.
18:02
Things
18:02
didn't
18:03
go
18:03
well
18:03
this
18:03
morning
18:03
with
18:04
getting
18:04
your
18:04
kids
18:04
off
18:04
to
18:05
school.
18:05
And
18:06
it's
18:06
just
18:06
like
18:06
the
18:07
straw
18:07
that
18:07
broke
18:07
the
18:07
camel's
18:08
back.
18:09
Some
18:09
little
18:09
thing
18:09
happens
18:10
and
18:10
you.
18:11
Somebody
18:11
might
18:11
fly
18:12
off
18:12
the
18:12
handle
18:12
and
18:13
why
18:13
did,
18:13
why
18:13
are
18:14
you
18:14
so
18:14
angry?
18:14
And
18:15
they
18:15
don't
18:15
know,
18:16
but
18:16
it's.
18:17
They
18:17
just
18:17
got
18:18
to
18:18
the,
18:18
the
18:18
edge
18:19
and
18:19
they
18:19
couldn't
18:19
take
18:19
anymore.
18:20
And
18:21
so
18:21
this
18:21
person
18:22
has.
18:22
We
18:22
all
18:22
have
18:22
a
18:23
circuit
18:23
breaker
18:24
that's
18:25
going
18:25
to
18:25
tip
18:25
us
18:26
off.
18:26
And
18:26
everybody
18:27
has
18:27
a
18:27
different
18:28
threshold
18:28
and
18:29
a
18:29
different
18:29
way
18:29
of
18:29
feeling
18:30
it
18:30
or
18:30
manifesting
18:31
it.
18:31
But
18:32
most
18:32
of
18:32
us
18:32
can
18:33
consciously
18:34
feel,
18:35
oh,
18:35
I've
18:35
got
18:35
to
18:36
de.
18:36
Stress,
18:36
I've
18:36
got
18:36
to
18:37
do
18:37
something
18:37
else
18:38
to
18:38
remain
18:39
calm.
18:40
But
18:40
someone
18:41
that
18:41
has
18:41
one
18:41
of
18:41
these
18:42
reactions,
18:43
we
18:43
call
18:43
them
18:44
functional
18:44
because
18:44
they're.
18:47
It's
18:47
functioning
18:48
as.
18:49
Functioning
18:49
as
18:49
exactly.
18:50
That's,
18:50
that's.
18:50
That's
18:51
such
18:51
a
18:51
good
18:51
way
18:51
to
18:51
say
18:52
it.
18:52
Sam.
18:52
Yeah.
18:53
And
18:54
so
18:54
I
18:54
was,
18:54
I
18:55
was.
18:55
Had
18:55
a
18:55
conversation
18:56
with
18:56
Sam
18:56
the
18:57
other
18:57
day
18:57
and
18:57
I
18:58
was,
18:58
you
18:58
know,
19:00
sharing
19:01
with
19:01
her.
19:01
I've
19:02
family
19:02
members
19:02
that
19:03
I
19:03
have.
19:04
I
19:04
have
19:04
a
19:05
brother
19:06
who
19:06
has
19:06
two
19:07
children,
19:07
three
19:08
children.
19:09
And
19:09
two
19:09
of
19:10
them
19:10
have
19:10
had
19:10
this
19:11
kind
19:11
of
19:11
reaction.
19:12
And
19:13
so,
19:13
you
19:13
know,
19:13
you
19:14
might
19:14
think
19:15
one
19:15
of
19:15
them
19:15
was
19:16
the
19:17
non
19:17
epileptic
19:17
seizures
19:18
when
19:19
she
19:19
got
19:19
stressed.
19:20
The
19:20
other
19:20
one
19:21
developed
19:22
blindness.
19:23
So
19:24
he
19:24
was
19:24
functionally
19:25
blind,
19:25
but
19:26
yet
19:26
he
19:26
wouldn't
19:26
bump
19:26
into
19:27
things.
19:27
But
19:27
he
19:27
really
19:28
couldn't
19:28
see.
19:29
And
19:29
he
19:30
was
19:30
in
19:30
Afghanistan
19:31
and
19:31
saw
19:31
his
19:32
best
19:32
buddy
19:32
blown
19:33
up
19:33
by.
19:35
And
19:35
it
19:35
started
19:35
after
19:36
that
19:36
and
19:37
so
19:37
he'd
19:37
go
19:37
through
19:37
periods
19:38
where
19:38
he
19:38
was
19:38
doing
19:38
okay
19:39
and
19:39
then
19:39
all
19:39
of
19:39
a
19:39
sudden
19:39
he
19:40
couldn't
19:40
see.
19:41
That's
19:41
awful.
19:41
It
19:42
would
19:42
be
19:42
when
19:42
he
19:42
was
19:42
stressed
19:44
and
19:44
I'm
19:44
thinking.
19:45
And
19:46
his
19:46
sister
19:46
would
19:47
develop
19:47
these
19:47
seizures
19:49
and
19:49
she
19:49
went
19:49
for
19:50
years
19:50
and
19:50
years
19:50
without
19:51
them.
19:51
And
19:52
then
19:52
she
19:53
went.
19:53
Her
19:53
father
19:54
died
19:54
and
19:54
she
19:54
went
19:55
through
19:55
a
19:55
divorce
19:56
and
19:56
all
19:56
of
19:56
a
19:56
sudden
19:57
they
19:57
started
19:57
up
19:57
again.
19:59
So
19:59
she
19:59
had
19:59
these
19:59
extra
20:00
stressors
20:00
and
20:00
it
20:01
wouldn't
20:01
take
20:01
much
20:02
to
20:02
tip
20:02
her
20:02
over
20:03
back
20:03
into
20:03
these
20:03
seizures.
20:04
But
20:05
once
20:05
you
20:05
recognize
20:06
it
20:07
and
20:07
you
20:07
know,
20:08
and
20:08
I'm
20:08
wondering
20:09
if
20:09
it
20:09
isn't
20:09
something
20:10
genetic
20:10
where
20:11
both
20:11
of
20:11
them
20:11
didn't
20:12
have
20:13
the
20:13
right
20:13
connectivity
20:14
between
20:14
their
20:14
emotions
20:15
and.
20:15
And
20:16
their
20:16
conscious
20:16
awareness
20:18
that
20:18
they.
20:18
Yeah,
20:18
because
20:19
that's
20:19
interesting
20:19
that
20:19
it's
20:20
the
20:20
same
20:20
family.
20:20
Two
20:20
children.
20:21
It
20:21
is
20:21
two
20:22
children,
20:22
but
20:22
different
20:22
reactions.
20:24
And
20:24
they're
20:24
both
20:24
completely
20:25
normal.
20:26
I
20:26
mean
20:26
they're
20:26
normal
20:27
psychologically.
20:28
They
20:28
have
20:29
jobs
20:29
and
20:29
families
20:30
and
20:30
everything
20:31
else
20:31
is
20:31
normal.
20:32
Right.
20:32
Well,
20:33
I
20:33
feel
20:33
like
20:33
the
20:33
sun
20:33
makes
20:34
sense
20:34
because
20:35
I
20:35
feel
20:35
like
20:36
that
20:36
is,
20:37
you
20:37
know,
20:37
a
20:37
normalized
20:38
like
20:38
big
20:39
trauma.
20:39
And
20:39
like
20:40
I,
20:40
I
20:40
feel
20:40
like
20:41
that
20:41
reaction
20:41
makes
20:42
sense.
20:42
But
20:43
there's
20:44
nothing
20:44
that
20:44
you
20:44
know
20:44
of
20:45
in
20:45
the
20:45
daughter
20:45
that
20:46
would
20:46
have
20:47
been
20:47
a
20:48
normal
20:48
quote
20:48
unquote
20:49
trauma.
20:50
Correct.
20:52
Except
20:52
you
20:53
did
20:53
say
20:53
divorce,
20:54
father
20:54
dying.
20:55
But
20:55
that
20:55
was
20:55
the
20:56
second
20:56
round
20:56
of
20:56
it.
20:57
Got
20:58
you
20:59
the
20:59
first
20:59
round
20:59
of
21:00
it.
21:00
Her
21:00
parents
21:00
went
21:01
through
21:01
a
21:02
terrible
21:02
divorce
21:03
like
21:03
the
21:03
war
21:04
of
21:04
the.
21:05
And
21:05
I
21:05
think
21:06
the
21:06
kids
21:06
were
21:06
kind
21:06
of
21:07
caught
21:07
in
21:07
the
21:07
middle
21:08
and
21:09
she's
21:09
the
21:09
youngest
21:10
and
21:10
she
21:10
just
21:10
all.
21:11
She's
21:11
a
21:11
big
21:11
stressor.
21:12
Yeah.
21:12
She
21:12
just
21:13
had
21:13
started
21:13
having
21:14
these
21:14
seizures
21:14
and.
21:15
And
21:15
I
21:15
think,
21:16
you
21:16
know,
21:16
there
21:16
would
21:16
be
21:16
another
21:17
argument
21:17
or
21:17
there'd
21:18
be
21:18
another,
21:18
you
21:18
know,
21:18
having
21:19
to
21:19
go
21:19
to
21:19
court,
21:19
and
21:19
she
21:20
would
21:20
just
21:20
have
21:20
a
21:20
seizure.
21:23
They
21:23
looked
21:23
real,
21:24
and
21:24
to
21:24
her
21:24
they
21:24
were
21:24
real.
21:25
She
21:25
would
21:25
lose
21:25
consciousness
21:28
and,
21:28
you
21:29
know,
21:29
she
21:29
ended
21:29
up
21:29
in
21:30
Bellevue
21:30
in
21:30
New
21:31
York.
21:31
And
21:31
they
21:32
did
21:32
all
21:32
kinds
21:32
of
21:33
tests
21:33
on
21:33
her,
21:34
and
21:35
they
21:36
finally
21:36
discovered
21:37
doing
21:37
the
21:37
video
21:37
EEG
21:38
where
21:38
she
21:38
had
21:39
seizures
21:39
while
21:40
they're
21:40
recording
21:41
the
21:41
brain
21:41
waves.
21:42
And
21:42
lo
21:42
and
21:42
behold,
21:43
there
21:43
was
21:43
no
21:43
abnormal
21:44
electrical
21:44
activity.
21:45
Wow.
21:46
Clearly
21:47
coming
21:47
from
21:48
emotions.
21:49
But
21:49
they're
21:49
real.
21:49
They're
21:50
as
21:50
real
21:50
as
21:51
the
21:52
epileptic
21:52
seizures.
21:53
The
21:53
difference
21:53
is
21:54
you
21:54
can't
21:54
throw
21:55
antiepileptic
21:56
drugs
21:56
at
21:56
them
21:57
and
21:57
cure
21:57
them.
21:58
They
21:58
calm
21:59
down
21:59
the
21:59
electrical
21:59
activity.
22:01
What's
22:01
going
22:02
on?
22:03
You
22:03
have
22:03
to
22:04
develop
22:04
new
22:05
coping
22:05
mechanisms.
22:06
Yes.
22:07
And
22:07
I
22:07
shared
22:08
with
22:08
you
22:08
how
22:08
devastating
22:09
it
22:09
was
22:09
when
22:10
the
22:10
neurologist
22:10
was
22:11
like,
22:11
yeah,
22:12
no,
22:13
you're
22:13
having
22:13
seizures,
22:14
but
22:15
it's
22:15
not
22:15
epilepsy.
22:17
I
22:17
guess,
22:18
see
22:18
a
22:18
psychiatrist.
22:19
So,
22:19
like,
22:20
that's
22:20
gotta
22:20
feel
22:21
so.
22:21
Like.
22:22
Like
22:22
a
22:23
unmoored
22:23
boat.
22:24
Like
22:24
what?
22:25
Yeah,
22:25
like,
22:25
Melissa,
22:26
I
22:26
think
22:26
you
22:26
saw
22:26
me
22:26
the
22:27
day
22:30
that
22:30
I
22:30
was
22:30
told
22:30
that,
22:31
and
22:31
I
22:31
was
22:31
just
22:31
like
22:31
a
22:32
hot
22:32
mess.
22:32
Like,
22:32
we
22:32
couldn't
22:32
even
22:33
record
22:33
because
22:33
I
22:33
was
22:33
just
22:33
so
22:34
devastated
22:34
and
22:34
crying.
22:35
I
22:35
was
22:35
like,
22:35
I
22:35
don't
22:35
even
22:35
know
22:35
how
22:36
to
22:36
take
22:36
this.
22:36
Like,
22:36
I'm
22:36
just
22:37
crazy.
22:37
So
22:38
how
22:38
do
22:38
you.
22:40
I'm
22:40
hearing
22:40
you
22:40
say
22:40
that
22:41
it's
22:41
more
22:41
common,
22:42
or
22:42
at
22:42
least
22:42
in
22:42
our
22:42
first
22:43
conversation,
22:43
that
22:43
it's
22:43
more
22:44
common
22:44
than
22:44
we
22:45
realize.
22:46
So
22:46
how
22:46
do
22:46
you
22:46
deliver
22:46
that
22:47
message
22:47
in
22:48
a
22:48
way
22:48
that
22:48
doesn't
22:48
make
22:49
us
22:49
feel
22:49
more
22:49
isolated
22:50
and
22:50
more
22:50
crazy
22:51
and
22:51
just
22:51
more
22:52
of
22:53
something?
22:54
Well,
22:56
I
22:56
don't
22:57
dismiss
22:57
the
22:57
patient.
22:58
I
22:58
think
23:00
there
23:00
are
23:00
situations
23:01
where
23:01
someone's
23:02
had
23:02
a
23:02
traumatic
23:03
brain
23:03
injury
23:03
or
23:04
they
23:04
have
23:04
ptsd,
23:05
like
23:05
my
23:06
nephew,
23:08
from
23:08
seeing
23:08
something,
23:09
or
23:10
they
23:10
have
23:10
PTSD
23:11
from
23:11
something
23:12
they
23:12
don't
23:12
remember
23:13
because
23:13
they're
23:14
so
23:14
good
23:14
at
23:14
dissociating
23:15
their
23:16
emotions
23:16
from
23:17
conscious
23:17
awareness.
23:18
You
23:18
hear
23:19
that
23:19
all
23:19
the
23:19
time.
23:19
Where
23:20
someone
23:20
had
23:20
a
23:21
traumatic
23:21
event
23:22
and
23:22
they
23:23
don't
23:23
remember
23:23
it
23:23
because
23:24
they
23:24
dissociate.
23:25
It
23:25
was
23:25
so
23:25
traumatic
23:26
that
23:27
their
23:27
brain
23:27
refused
23:28
to
23:28
remember
23:29
or
23:29
be
23:29
consciously
23:29
aware
23:30
that
23:30
something
23:30
was
23:30
happening
23:31
to
23:31
them.
23:31
They
23:32
would
23:32
put
23:32
self
23:33
somewhere
23:33
else.
23:33
Like
23:34
a
23:34
woman
23:34
who's
23:34
raped
23:35
and.
23:35
And
23:36
she
23:36
just
23:36
dissociates
23:37
and
23:37
pretends
23:38
she's
23:39
off
23:39
doing
23:39
something
23:40
else.
23:40
And
23:40
then
23:41
later
23:41
she
23:41
can
23:42
even
23:42
see
23:42
her
23:43
attack
23:43
her
23:44
and
23:44
not
23:44
realize.
23:45
She
23:45
knows
23:45
there's
23:45
something
23:45
about
23:46
that
23:46
person,
23:47
but
23:47
she
23:47
doesn't
23:47
Remember,
23:49
and
23:49
these
23:50
people,
23:53
they
23:53
just
23:53
have
23:54
that
23:54
ability
23:54
to
23:54
dissociate.
23:56
And
23:56
so
23:57
someone
23:57
could
23:57
have
23:57
had
23:58
a
23:58
trauma
23:58
that
23:58
they
23:59
don't
23:59
remember.
24:00
They
24:00
could
24:00
have
24:01
PTSD
24:02
from
24:02
something
24:02
else.
24:03
It
24:03
could
24:03
be
24:03
their
24:04
personality
24:05
where
24:06
they're
24:06
absolutely
24:07
have
24:07
to
24:08
be
24:08
in
24:08
control
24:08
of
24:09
things
24:10
and
24:10
something
24:11
happens
24:11
in
24:11
their
24:12
life
24:12
that
24:12
they
24:12
couldn't
24:13
control
24:14
and
24:14
so
24:14
they
24:15
just
24:15
dissociated
24:16
from
24:16
that.
24:17
I
24:17
had
24:17
a
24:17
very
24:18
interesting
24:18
patient
24:19
that
24:19
would
24:20
go
24:20
into
24:21
status
24:21
epilepticus
24:22
where
24:23
she'd
24:23
have
24:23
a
24:23
seizure
24:24
that
24:24
wouldn't
24:24
stop,
24:24
they'd
24:25
go
24:25
on
24:25
for
24:25
hours.
24:27
And
24:27
she
24:27
was
24:27
admitted
24:28
to
24:29
an
24:30
intensive
24:30
care
24:30
unit
24:31
multiple
24:31
times.
24:31
Because
24:31
status
24:32
epilepticus
24:33
from
24:33
epilepsy
24:34
can
24:35
kill
24:36
you.
24:36
Yeah,
24:36
yeah.
24:38
You
24:38
know,
24:38
this
24:38
happened
24:39
several
24:40
times.
24:40
She
24:40
was
24:40
admitted
24:41
to
24:41
the
24:41
hospital
24:42
and
24:43
nothing.
24:44
There
24:44
was
24:44
no,
24:45
you
24:45
know,
24:48
confirmation
24:49
that
24:49
this
24:49
was
24:49
actually
24:49
a
24:50
seizure.
24:50
And.
24:50
But
24:51
what's,
24:51
what
24:51
is
24:51
it
24:52
about
24:52
this
24:52
person?
24:52
She
24:52
was
24:53
in
24:53
military,
24:54
she
24:54
was
24:54
very
24:54
highly
24:55
functioning.
24:55
She
24:55
was
24:56
like
24:56
in
24:56
a
24:57
high
24:57
level
24:57
of
24:57
the
24:57
military.
24:59
And
24:59
what
24:59
it
24:59
turned
25:00
out
25:00
to
25:00
be
25:00
with
25:00
psychotherapy
25:02
was
25:02
this
25:02
woman
25:03
was
25:04
diagnosed
25:04
years
25:05
ago
25:06
with
25:06
an
25:06
aneurysm
25:08
in
25:08
her
25:08
brain
25:09
that
25:09
was
25:09
inoperable
25:12
because
25:12
of
25:12
where
25:12
it
25:12
was.
25:13
So
25:14
this
25:15
was
25:15
something
25:15
she
25:15
couldn't
25:16
control.
25:16
She
25:16
had
25:16
the
25:17
knowledge
25:18
that
25:18
at
25:18
any
25:19
time,
25:19
a
25:19
certain
25:20
percentage
25:20
per
25:20
year,
25:21
it
25:21
could
25:21
rupture
25:22
and
25:23
your
25:24
aneurysm
25:24
ruptures,
25:25
that
25:25
could
25:25
be
25:25
sudden
25:25
death.
25:27
And
25:28
she
25:28
knew
25:28
this
25:28
because
25:29
she
25:29
had
25:29
a
25:29
family
25:30
member
25:30
that
25:30
died
25:31
of
25:31
a
25:31
ruptured
25:31
aneurysm.
25:33
She's
25:33
diagnosed
25:34
and
25:34
then,
25:34
well,
25:35
there's
25:35
nothing
25:35
we
25:35
can
25:35
do
25:36
about
25:36
it.
25:36
We're
25:36
just
25:36
going
25:36
to
25:37
make
25:37
sure
25:37
your
25:38
blood
25:38
pressure
25:38
never
25:38
gets
25:39
too
25:39
high.
25:40
But
25:40
this
25:40
is
25:40
something
25:41
she
25:41
had
25:41
no
25:41
control
25:41
over.
25:42
And
25:43
so
25:43
she
25:44
couldn't
25:45
deal
25:45
with
25:45
that.
25:45
Not
25:46
something
25:46
that
25:47
I
25:47
can't
25:47
manage.
25:47
I
25:48
can't
25:48
do
25:48
this
25:49
on
25:49
my
25:49
own.
25:49
And
25:50
so
25:50
she
25:50
started
25:51
having
25:51
these
25:52
seizures.
25:53
And
25:54
so
25:54
what
25:54
happened?
25:54
And
25:55
was
25:56
found
25:56
a
25:56
neurosurgeon
25:57
that
25:57
would
25:57
go
25:58
in
25:58
and
25:59
try
25:59
to
26:00
attempt
26:00
to
26:01
oil
26:01
that
26:02
seizure,
26:02
that
26:03
aneurysm.
26:04
So
26:04
she
26:04
didn't
26:05
have
26:05
a
26:05
risk
26:05
of
26:06
sudden
26:06
death,
26:07
but
26:07
she
26:07
has
26:09
now.
26:09
She's
26:10
aware
26:11
of
26:11
her
26:11
personality
26:12
of
26:12
needing
26:12
to
26:12
control,
26:14
to
26:14
learn
26:14
how
26:14
to
26:15
give
26:15
up
26:15
some
26:15
of
26:15
that
26:15
control
26:16
that
26:17
you
26:17
can't
26:17
control.
26:17
Everything
26:18
in
26:18
life
26:19
right
26:21
about
26:21
where
26:21
I
26:21
am.
26:22
Yeah,
26:22
everybody's
26:23
different.
26:24
So.
26:25
But
26:26
you
26:26
have
26:26
to
26:26
with,
26:27
with
26:27
patients
26:28
that
26:28
have
26:29
these
26:30
non
26:30
epileptic
26:31
seizures,
26:31
some
26:32
of
26:32
them
26:32
have
26:32
real
26:33
seizures
26:33
as
26:33
well.
26:34
And
26:35
we're
26:35
not
26:35
capturing
26:36
all
26:36
the
26:36
seizure
26:37
events.
26:37
So
26:38
neurologists
26:39
will
26:39
often
26:39
hold
26:39
on
26:40
to
26:40
them
26:40
and
26:41
work
26:41
with
26:42
them
26:42
to
26:42
be
26:42
sure
26:43
that,
26:43
you
26:43
know,
26:43
there
26:43
isn't
26:44
anything
26:44
else
26:44
wrong.
26:45
Yeah.
26:45
While
26:46
they're
26:46
going
26:46
through
26:47
psychotherapy
26:48
because
26:48
ultimately,
26:48
psychotherapy
26:49
is
26:49
the
26:49
treatment.
26:50
Yeah.
26:51
I
26:51
feel
26:51
like
26:52
when
26:53
I
26:53
talk
26:53
to
26:53
people,
26:54
I
26:54
tell
26:54
them
26:54
that
26:56
I.
26:56
I
26:56
get
26:57
that
26:57
this
26:57
is
26:57
caused
26:58
by
26:58
some
26:58
sort
26:59
of
26:59
ptsd,
27:00
which
27:00
I
27:00
have
27:01
been
27:01
diagnosed
27:01
with,
27:01
and
27:02
anxiety,
27:03
with,
27:03
on
27:03
and
27:03
off
27:04
depression.
27:04
Like,
27:04
I
27:05
get
27:05
it.
27:05
But
27:06
what
27:06
I
27:06
found
27:07
interesting
27:08
was
27:09
that
27:09
the
27:09
first
27:09
time
27:10
it
27:10
happened,
27:11
I
27:11
was
27:12
on
27:12
a
27:12
boat
27:13
with
27:14
the
27:14
humpback
27:15
whales,
27:16
like,
27:16
in
27:16
the
27:16
middle
27:16
of
27:16
the
27:16
ocean.
27:17
That
27:17
I
27:17
can
27:17
dream.
27:18
Yes.
27:18
I've
27:19
been
27:19
waiting.
27:19
I
27:19
was
27:19
trying
27:20
to
27:20
do
27:20
that
27:20
for,
27:20
like,
27:21
years,
27:21
two
27:21
years.
27:22
And
27:22
so
27:23
I
27:23
was
27:23
finally
27:23
there,
27:23
watching
27:24
the
27:24
moms
27:24
bring
27:24
the
27:24
babies
27:25
up,
27:25
getting
27:25
their
27:26
first
27:26
breath.
27:26
And,
27:27
like,
27:27
it
27:27
was
27:27
just
27:28
magical.
27:28
And
27:29
I
27:29
just
27:29
remember,
27:29
like,
27:30
just
27:30
being
27:31
in
27:31
this,
27:31
like,
27:31
overload
27:32
of
27:32
awe.
27:33
And
27:33
I
27:33
remember
27:34
crying
27:34
and
27:34
just
27:34
being
27:35
like,
27:35
oh,
27:35
my
27:35
God,
27:35
this
27:36
was
27:36
worth
27:36
the
27:36
wait.
27:36
Like,
27:36
oh,
27:37
my
27:37
gosh,
27:37
it's
27:37
finally
27:37
happening.
27:38
And
27:38
then
27:38
all
27:38
of
27:39
a
27:39
sudden,
27:39
I
27:39
crashed.
27:40
And
27:40
so
27:41
I
27:42
really.
27:43
I
27:43
think
27:43
that
27:43
that
27:43
was
27:44
a
27:44
real
27:44
one.
27:44
Like,
27:45
how
27:45
could
27:45
something
27:45
so
27:46
magical
27:46
to
27:47
all
27:47
of
27:47
a
27:47
sudden
27:47
be,
27:47
like,
27:48
crying
27:48
and
27:49
then,
27:49
like,
27:50
nothing?
27:50
Like,
27:50
how
27:50
could
27:51
have
27:51
that
27:51
been
27:52
an
27:52
overload?
27:53
You
27:54
were.
27:54
I
27:55
watched
27:55
that
27:55
podcast.
27:56
I
27:57
know
27:57
a
27:57
little
27:57
about
27:57
this
27:58
history.
27:58
You
27:59
were
27:59
stressed.
27:59
You
28:00
were
28:00
thinking,
28:00
you
28:01
know,
28:01
your
28:01
marriage
28:01
was
28:01
over,
28:02
and,
28:02
you
28:02
know,
28:03
this
28:03
was
28:03
it.
28:04
You're
28:04
going
28:04
to
28:04
be
28:04
together.
28:05
And
28:06
that
28:06
was,
28:07
you
28:07
know,
28:07
right
28:08
under
28:08
the
28:08
surface.
28:09
Oh,
28:10
so
28:11
now
28:11
you're
28:11
letting
28:11
go.
28:12
Oh,
28:12
this
28:12
is.
28:12
Isn't
28:13
this
28:13
wonderful.
28:13
But
28:13
that
28:13
stress
28:14
is
28:14
right
28:14
there,
28:15
just
28:15
enough
28:16
to
28:16
tip
28:16
you.
28:17
No,
28:18
she
28:18
was
28:18
actually
28:18
in
28:19
touch
28:19
with
28:19
her
28:19
emotions
28:20
first
28:20
for
28:20
a
28:21
minute.
28:22
Yeah.
28:22
Maybe
28:23
because
28:23
she
28:24
trusted
28:24
those
28:24
good
28:25
feelings.
28:25
And
28:25
then
28:25
the
28:25
others
28:26
came
28:26
out.
28:27
Yeah,
28:27
because
28:27
they.
28:28
They
28:28
were
28:28
there.
28:28
They
28:28
were
28:28
underlying,
28:29
and
28:29
that
28:29
was,
28:30
you
28:30
know,
28:31
that
28:31
was
28:31
tipping
28:31
you
28:31
over.
28:32
Yeah.
28:33
Interesting.
28:34
A
28:35
safe
28:35
situation,
28:35
because
28:36
you're
28:36
not
28:36
taking
28:36
care
28:37
of
28:37
your
28:37
kids.
28:37
You're
28:38
there
28:38
with
28:38
your
28:38
husband,
28:39
and
28:40
now
28:40
it
28:41
can
28:41
come
28:41
out.
28:43
Okay.
28:44
Seizures
28:44
are
28:44
funny
28:45
because
28:45
they.
28:46
They
28:46
are.
28:49
Your
28:50
brain
28:50
is
28:50
going
28:50
to
28:51
protect
28:51
you.
28:51
So
28:52
I
28:52
like
28:52
to
28:52
tell
28:53
people
28:53
that,
28:54
like,
28:56
the
28:56
example
28:57
of
28:57
my
28:57
nephew,
28:58
that
28:58
would
28:58
get
28:58
blind,
28:59
and
29:00
that
29:00
you're
29:00
not
29:00
going
29:00
to
29:01
burn
29:01
yourself.
29:01
You're
29:02
not
29:02
going
29:02
to
29:02
fall
29:03
over
29:03
something.
29:04
You're
29:04
not
29:04
going
29:04
to
29:04
hurt
29:04
yourself.
29:05
Like
29:05
someone
29:05
who
29:06
really
29:06
can't
29:06
see.
29:06
You
29:07
can't
29:07
see
29:07
consciously.
29:09
Mind
29:09
is
29:10
seeing,
29:11
so
29:11
you're
29:11
not
29:11
going
29:12
to
29:12
be
29:12
in
29:12
danger
29:12
of
29:12
hurting
29:12
yourself.
29:13
But
29:13
we've
29:14
got
29:14
to
29:14
find
29:14
out
29:14
why.
29:15
Why
29:15
this
29:15
is
29:15
happening
29:16
to
29:16
you
29:16
so
29:16
that
29:16
it
29:17
stops
29:17
happening.
29:18
I.
29:18
Can
29:19
I
29:19
share
29:19
something
29:19
really,
29:20
really
29:20
quick?
29:21
I
29:21
had
29:22
a
29:22
situation
29:23
probably,
29:24
like.
29:25
Probably,
29:25
like
29:25
15
29:26
years
29:26
ago
29:26
now,
29:27
where
29:28
it
29:28
happened
29:28
on
29:29
two
29:29
different
29:29
occasions
29:30
where
29:30
I
29:31
did
29:31
went
29:32
blind,
29:32
and
29:32
I
29:33
was
29:33
once
29:33
this.
29:34
I
29:34
was
29:34
in
29:34
Walmart
29:35
and
29:35
it.
29:35
It
29:36
scared
29:36
me
29:36
then.
29:36
But
29:37
the
29:37
second
29:37
one
29:38
and
29:38
I
29:39
never
29:39
until
29:40
this
29:40
moment
29:40
when
29:41
you
29:41
were
29:41
talking
29:41
realized
29:42
the
29:42
second
29:43
one
29:43
happened
29:43
when
29:43
I
29:43
was
29:43
driving
29:44
on
29:44
a
29:44
highway,
29:46
like
29:46
a
29:46
back
29:46
roads
29:47
old
29:47
highway,
29:47
but
29:47
it
29:48
was
29:48
still
29:48
busy.
29:48
It
29:49
was
29:49
four
29:49
lanes
29:50
and
29:51
I
29:51
don't
29:51
know
29:51
how
29:52
I
29:52
pulled
29:52
over.
29:53
And
29:54
I
29:54
think
29:54
what
29:55
you're
29:55
saying
29:55
is
29:55
I
29:56
could
29:56
still
29:56
see
29:57
on
29:57
an
29:57
unconscious
29:58
level
29:59
and
29:59
my
29:59
brain
30:00
protected
30:00
me,
30:00
I
30:00
was
30:01
able
30:01
to
30:01
get
30:01
off
30:01
the
30:01
road.
30:03
Yeah,
30:04
yeah,
30:04
it
30:04
sounds
30:05
like
30:05
it,
30:05
but
30:06
that's
30:06
insane.
30:06
Sounds
30:07
like
30:07
a
30:07
migraine.
30:08
That.
30:09
That's
30:09
what
30:09
we
30:09
figured
30:10
out
30:10
in
30:10
the
30:10
very
30:10
end.
30:11
Yeah.
30:12
I
30:12
had
30:12
to
30:12
go
30:13
to
30:13
a.
30:14
Yes,
30:14
it
30:14
was
30:14
a
30:15
lot
30:15
of.
30:15
I
30:16
went
30:16
to
30:16
every
30:16
eye
30:16
doctor
30:17
and
30:17
then
30:17
they
30:17
sent
30:17
me
30:17
to
30:17
an
30:18
eye
30:18
neurologist.
30:21
Yeah,
30:23
a
30:24
what?
30:25
A
30:25
neuro
30:25
ophthalmologist.
30:26
Yes.
30:27
Thank
30:27
you.
30:28
So
30:28
many
30:29
sub
30:29
characters.
30:31
I
30:31
love
30:31
it.
30:32
Oh
30:32
yeah,
30:33
yeah.
30:33
Okay.
30:34
Interesting.
30:35
Okay,
30:36
so
30:36
I
30:36
know
30:37
that
30:37
we
30:37
talked
30:37
about
30:37
this
30:37
briefly
30:38
and
30:38
in
30:39
that
30:39
episode
30:39
I
30:40
also
30:40
mentioned
30:41
just
30:41
how
30:42
common
30:44
epilepsy
30:45
is
30:46
misdiagnosed
30:47
with
30:47
these
30:47
functional
30:48
seizures.
30:49
So
30:49
how
30:49
can
30:50
someone
30:50
who's
30:50
experiencing
30:51
these
30:51
in
30:53
doesn't
30:53
really
30:53
feel
30:54
like
30:54
they're
30:54
getting
30:55
the
30:55
results
30:55
that
30:56
they
30:56
need.
30:56
Like
30:57
how
30:57
do
30:57
we
30:58
rule
30:58
that
30:59
out
30:59
so
30:59
that
30:59
we're
30:59
not
30:59
on
31:00
Keppra
31:01
for
31:01
eight
31:01
years
31:02
before
31:02
we're
31:02
like,
31:03
oh,
31:03
this
31:03
just
31:03
isn't
31:04
working.
31:05
It's
31:05
very
31:05
important
31:06
because
31:06
the
31:07
longer
31:07
you
31:07
go
31:08
on
31:08
with
31:10
medication
31:11
for
31:11
seizures
31:12
that
31:12
are
31:12
non
31:13
epileptic
31:13
seizures
31:15
and
31:15
they
31:15
keep
31:16
happening,
31:17
the
31:17
harder
31:17
it
31:17
is
31:17
down
31:18
the
31:18
road
31:18
to
31:18
treat
31:18
them
31:19
with
31:19
psychotherapy.
31:20
So
31:21
you
31:21
lose
31:21
a
31:21
little
31:21
time
31:22
just
31:22
like
31:23
someone
31:23
that
31:24
might
31:24
be
31:24
having
31:24
symptoms
31:25
of
31:25
cancer
31:25
and
31:25
someone
31:26
says,
31:26
oh
31:26
no,
31:26
you're
31:27
just
31:27
stressed
31:27
and
31:27
then
31:28
come
31:28
back
31:28
in
31:28
a
31:29
year
31:30
if
31:30
you
31:30
don't
31:31
listen
31:31
to
31:31
yourself
31:32
and
31:32
go
31:32
see
31:33
another
31:33
doctor.
31:34
You
31:34
know,
31:35
you
31:35
might
31:35
have
31:35
waited
31:36
too
31:36
long.
31:37
Whoa.
31:37
Is
31:37
it
31:37
because
31:38
your
31:38
body
31:38
just
31:39
starts
31:39
to
31:39
like
31:40
it's
31:40
just
31:40
going
31:40
through
31:41
the
31:41
motions
31:41
in
31:41
its
31:41
habit?
31:42
Like
31:43
why
31:43
is
31:43
it
31:43
harder
31:44
to
31:44
treat
31:44
something.
31:45
A
31:45
seizure
31:45
like
31:45
that.
31:48
Those
31:49
pathways
31:49
get
31:49
more
31:49
ingrained.
31:50
Okay.
31:51
In
31:52
your
31:52
brain
31:52
and
31:52
you.
31:53
It's
31:53
like
31:54
you
31:54
develop
31:54
a
31:55
defense
31:55
mechanism.
31:56
Okay.
31:57
Or
31:57
you
31:57
do
31:57
it
31:58
that
31:58
you
31:58
more.
31:59
You
31:59
just
31:59
automatically
32:00
revert
32:00
to
32:00
that
32:00
defense
32:01
mechanism.
32:02
Got
32:02
you.
32:03
Wow.
32:04
It's
32:04
a
32:05
coping
32:05
mechanism
32:06
for
32:06
stress.
32:07
And
32:07
you
32:07
don't
32:07
want
32:08
to
32:08
learn
32:08
that
32:09
coping
32:09
mechanism.
32:10
You
32:10
want
32:10
to
32:11
understand.
32:12
Okay,
32:13
I'm
32:13
feeling
32:13
it
32:13
now.
32:14
I'm
32:14
not
32:14
going
32:14
to
32:15
be
32:15
scared
32:15
because
32:15
I
32:15
know
32:16
what
32:16
this
32:16
is.
32:17
And
32:17
like
32:17
you're
32:18
out
32:18
with
32:18
your
32:18
friends.
32:18
You
32:18
just.
32:19
I
32:19
think
32:19
I
32:19
need
32:20
to
32:20
remove
32:20
myself
32:20
because
32:21
I'm
32:22
starting
32:22
to
32:22
feel
32:23
that
32:23
stress.
32:24
I'm
32:24
getting
32:24
Cold.
32:25
You
32:25
know,
32:25
things
32:25
are
32:26
starting
32:26
to
32:26
get
32:26
distant.
32:27
I
32:27
think
32:27
I'm
32:28
going
32:28
to
32:28
go
32:28
outside
32:28
and
32:28
just
32:28
take
32:29
some
32:29
deep
32:29
breaths.
32:31
And
32:32
what
32:32
I
32:32
think
32:32
I'm
32:32
learning
32:33
also
32:33
is
32:34
so
32:34
being
32:35
overstimulated
32:36
is
32:36
a
32:36
good,
32:37
good
32:37
trigger.
32:38
So,
32:38
like,
32:39
if
32:39
I
32:39
tell
32:40
myself,
32:40
okay,
32:40
I'm
32:41
going
32:41
to
32:41
a
32:41
concert
32:41
with
32:41
my
32:42
friends
32:42
today,
32:42
there's
32:42
going
32:42
to
32:42
be
32:43
a
32:43
lot
32:43
of
32:43
flashing
32:43
lights,
32:43
a
32:44
lot
32:44
of
32:44
people,
32:44
a
32:44
lot
32:44
of
32:45
noise.
32:45
Oh,
32:46
I
32:46
hope
32:46
I
32:46
don't
32:46
have
32:46
a
32:47
seizure.
32:47
Like,
32:48
that's
32:48
already
32:48
pre
32:48
telling
32:49
my
32:49
brain,
32:50
like,
32:50
oh,
32:50
when
32:50
you
32:50
hear
32:51
all
32:51
these
32:51
noises
32:51
and
32:52
see
32:52
all
32:52
these
32:53
lights,
32:53
have
32:53
a
32:53
seizure.
32:54
And
32:54
so
32:55
it's
32:55
trying
32:55
to
32:56
be
32:56
conscious
32:56
about.
32:59
I
32:59
can
32:59
handle
32:59
this.
33:00
Exactly.
33:02
Someone
33:02
has
33:03
a
33:03
panic
33:03
attack
33:03
in
33:04
the
33:04
grocery
33:04
store,
33:05
then
33:06
when
33:06
they
33:07
go
33:07
to
33:07
the
33:07
grocery
33:07
store
33:08
again,
33:08
that's
33:09
where
33:09
they're
33:09
likely
33:09
to
33:09
have
33:09
a
33:10
panic
33:10
attack
33:10
because
33:10
they're
33:10
thinking,
33:11
oh,
33:11
no,
33:11
oh,
33:11
no,
33:11
I'm
33:11
afraid
33:12
to
33:12
go
33:12
in
33:12
here.
33:12
Don't
33:13
happen
33:13
again.
33:13
Yes.
33:14
And
33:15
so
33:16
someone
33:16
that's
33:16
in
33:16
an
33:17
automobile
33:17
accident,
33:17
they're
33:18
afraid
33:18
to
33:18
get
33:18
back
33:18
in
33:18
the
33:18
car
33:19
because
33:19
they're
33:19
afraid
33:20
in
33:20
that
33:20
car
33:21
is
33:21
when
33:22
I
33:22
might,
33:22
you
33:23
know,
33:23
just
33:23
freak
33:23
out.
33:25
So
33:25
it's
33:26
putting
33:27
yourself
33:27
back
33:27
in
33:27
that
33:27
situation.
33:28
And
33:28
at
33:28
certain
33:29
point,
33:29
you
33:29
need
33:29
to
33:29
keep
33:30
going
33:30
into
33:30
those
33:31
situations
33:31
to
33:31
prove
33:31
to
33:32
yourself
33:32
that,
33:33
oh,
33:33
I'm
33:33
fine,
33:34
nothing's
33:34
going
33:34
to
33:34
happen.
33:35
And
33:35
so
33:35
a
33:35
concert,
33:36
bright
33:36
lights,
33:37
flashing
33:37
lights,
33:37
none
33:38
of
33:38
those
33:38
things
33:38
should
33:39
induce
33:39
a
33:39
seizure.
33:40
It
33:40
all
33:40
has
33:40
to
33:41
do
33:41
with
33:41
your
33:41
stress
33:41
level.
33:43
And
33:44
so
33:44
doing
33:45
everything
33:45
you
33:45
can
33:46
to
33:47
manage
33:47
that.
33:48
And
33:48
for
33:49
someone
33:49
like
33:49
you,
33:50
you've
33:50
got
33:50
to
33:50
be.
33:51
Learn
33:51
to
33:51
be
33:52
more
33:52
conscious
33:52
of
33:53
what
33:53
stresses
33:54
you,
33:55
because
33:56
consciously,
33:56
you're
33:57
not
33:57
aware
33:58
until
33:58
you.
33:59
That
33:59
circuit
34:00
flips.
34:00
So
34:01
is
34:01
psychology
34:01
what
34:02
makes
34:02
you
34:02
become
34:02
aware?
34:03
Or,
34:04
like,
34:04
is
34:05
it
34:05
just
34:05
something
34:05
that
34:06
will
34:06
just
34:06
maybe
34:06
never
34:07
connect?
34:09
Psychology.
34:10
Do
34:10
you
34:10
mean
34:10
getting
34:11
therapy?
34:12
Yes.
34:12
Yeah.
34:13
Okay.
34:13
Therapy.
34:14
If
34:14
it's
34:15
a.
34:15
A
34:16
stress
34:16
that
34:16
you've
34:16
had
34:16
in
34:17
the
34:17
past.
34:18
So
34:18
a
34:18
lot
34:18
of
34:19
people,
34:20
you
34:20
know,
34:20
you
34:20
probably
34:21
have
34:21
no
34:22
more
34:22
stress
34:23
now
34:23
than
34:24
you
34:24
always
34:24
did.
34:24
You
34:25
know,
34:25
you're
34:25
managing,
34:25
you
34:26
have
34:26
three
34:26
kids
34:26
and
34:27
marriage
34:28
podcast.
34:29
And,
34:29
you
34:29
know,
34:29
life
34:30
is
34:30
stressful.
34:30
It's.
34:31
It
34:31
just
34:31
is.
34:32
But
34:33
if
34:33
there's
34:34
something
34:34
else
34:34
going
34:35
on,
34:35
like
34:35
you're
34:36
not
34:36
getting
34:36
along
34:36
with
34:36
your
34:37
husband,
34:37
you
34:37
think,
34:37
this
34:38
might
34:38
be
34:38
it,
34:38
this
34:39
might
34:39
be
34:39
the
34:39
end
34:39
of
34:39
our
34:39
marriage.
34:40
That's
34:40
an
34:40
extra
34:40
stress.
34:41
And
34:42
you
34:42
might
34:42
not
34:42
be
34:42
talking
34:43
about
34:43
it
34:43
instead
34:44
of
34:44
talking
34:44
about
34:44
it
34:45
getting
34:45
out
34:45
in
34:45
the
34:45
open,
34:45
you're
34:46
both
34:46
thinking,
34:46
you
34:47
know,
34:48
when
34:48
is
34:48
this
34:48
going
34:49
to
34:49
end?
34:49
You
34:49
know,
34:49
what
34:50
am
34:50
I
34:50
going
34:50
to
34:50
do?
34:52
For
34:52
some
34:52
people,
34:53
you're
34:53
just
34:53
going
34:53
along,
34:54
and
34:54
there
34:54
isn't
34:54
anything
34:55
Extra.
34:56
But
34:56
you
34:56
might
34:57
have
34:57
had
34:57
a
34:57
trauma
34:57
in
34:58
the
34:58
past
34:59
or
34:59
grief
35:00
from
35:00
the
35:01
loss
35:01
of
35:01
something
35:01
that
35:02
you
35:02
never
35:02
dealt
35:03
with.
35:05
Gonna
35:05
come
35:05
out.
35:06
It
35:06
always
35:06
has
35:06
to.
35:07
That's
35:08
in
35:08
your
35:08
subconscious.
35:09
Yeah.
35:09
Can
35:10
I
35:10
ask
35:10
a
35:11
kind
35:11
of
35:11
a
35:12
para.
35:12
A
35:13
close
35:13
question,
35:13
but
35:14
it
35:14
might
35:14
not
35:14
have
35:15
anything
35:15
to
35:15
do.
35:15
I
35:15
don't
35:15
know.
35:17
You're
35:18
talking
35:18
about
35:18
things
35:19
happening
35:19
in
35:19
the
35:19
past,
35:20
us
35:20
repressing
35:21
them
35:23
or
35:23
not
35:23
remembering
35:24
them.
35:24
Is
35:25
that
35:25
the
35:25
same
35:25
thing?
35:26
Is
35:26
like
35:26
when
35:27
a
35:27
young
35:27
child.
35:27
Something
35:28
happens
35:28
bad
35:29
to
35:29
a
35:29
young
35:29
child,
35:30
and
35:30
then
35:31
like
35:31
later
35:31
they
35:31
start
35:32
having
35:32
memories
35:32
of
35:33
it,
35:33
of
35:33
it
35:34
as
35:34
they
35:34
get
35:34
older.
35:35
And
35:35
it's
35:35
like,
35:35
where
35:35
are
35:35
these
35:36
coming
35:36
from?
35:37
This
35:37
happened
35:38
to
35:38
me.
35:39
And
35:39
so.
35:39
Okay,
35:40
it
35:40
is
35:40
the
35:40
same
35:41
because.
35:41
And
35:41
it's
35:42
not
35:42
just
35:42
because,
35:42
oh,
35:42
I
35:42
was
35:42
too
35:43
young
35:43
to
35:43
remember.
35:44
No,
35:44
no,
35:44
no.
35:44
It's
35:45
the
35:45
same
35:46
that
35:47
happens
35:47
all
35:48
the
35:48
time.
35:49
And
35:50
patients
35:50
that
35:50
I
35:51
deal
35:51
with,
35:51
and
35:51
I'm.
35:52
I'm
35:52
a
35:52
neurologist,
35:53
not
35:53
a
35:53
psychiatrist,
35:53
but
35:54
there's
35:54
real
35:54
interplay
35:55
between
35:56
two
35:57
specialties.
35:58
And
35:58
we're
35:58
actually
36:00
both
36:00
psychiatrists
36:01
and
36:01
neurologists
36:02
are
36:02
double
36:02
board
36:02
certified
36:03
in
36:03
both
36:03
fields.
36:04
Oh,
36:05
we
36:05
have
36:05
to
36:05
take.
36:06
We
36:06
have
36:06
to
36:06
take.
36:08
Do
36:08
our
36:08
residency
36:09
in
36:09
both
36:10
mine.
36:11
It's
36:11
concentrated
36:12
in
36:12
neurology,
36:12
but
36:12
we
36:12
have
36:13
to
36:13
do
36:13
so
36:13
much
36:13
psychiatry
36:14
and
36:14
take
36:14
a
36:14
double
36:14
board
36:15
because
36:15
there's
36:16
so
36:16
much.
36:16
There's
36:16
so
36:16
much
36:17
interplay.
36:18
So
36:20
when
36:21
you
36:21
have
36:21
a
36:21
trauma,
36:22
you.
36:23
Especially
36:23
kids,
36:24
you
36:25
know,
36:25
they
36:25
don't
36:26
have
36:26
the
36:26
coping
36:26
mechanisms
36:27
yet
36:27
to
36:27
deal
36:27
with
36:27
it.
36:27
When
36:28
you're
36:28
really
36:28
young,
36:29
they
36:29
will
36:30
dissociate.
36:31
They
36:31
will
36:31
just
36:34
brush
36:34
it
36:34
off,
36:35
go
36:35
somewhere
36:35
else
36:36
in
36:36
their
36:36
brain
36:36
and
36:37
not
36:37
realize
36:37
it.
36:38
Because
36:38
you
36:38
hear
36:38
all
36:39
the
36:39
time,
36:40
you
36:40
know,
36:40
a
36:41
woman
36:41
is
36:41
more
36:41
likely,
36:42
for
36:42
instance,
36:42
to
36:43
develop
36:43
later
36:43
in
36:43
life,
36:44
chronic
36:45
pain,
36:45
and
36:45
they
36:45
don't
36:45
know
36:45
where
36:46
it's
36:46
coming
36:46
from
36:48
or
36:48
some
36:48
other
36:49
problem.
36:50
And
36:50
they
36:51
find
36:52
out
36:52
by
36:52
intense
36:53
psychotherapy
36:54
that
36:54
they
36:54
were
36:54
molested,
36:55
maybe
36:55
by
36:56
their
36:56
stepfather,
36:57
by
36:57
a
36:57
brother,
36:58
by
36:58
someone
36:58
that
36:59
they
36:59
trusted,
36:59
and
37:00
they
37:00
had
37:00
no
37:01
memory
37:01
of
37:01
it.
37:02
They
37:02
might
37:02
be
37:02
afraid
37:03
of
37:03
men,
37:03
but
37:03
they
37:03
don't
37:04
know
37:04
why.
37:05
And
37:05
it
37:05
all
37:05
has
37:06
to
37:06
do
37:06
with
37:06
something
37:06
that
37:07
happened
37:07
to
37:07
them.
37:07
And
37:07
we
37:07
know
37:08
that
37:08
that's
37:08
more
37:08
likely
37:09
to
37:09
happen
37:09
to
37:09
a
37:09
woman
37:10
than
37:10
a
37:10
male,
37:11
although
37:11
it
37:12
has
37:12
happened
37:12
to
37:12
males.
37:13
But
37:13
this,
37:14
this
37:14
is
37:14
common.
37:15
I
37:15
talked
37:16
to
37:16
friends
37:17
of
37:17
mine
37:17
that
37:18
do
37:19
therapy
37:20
on
37:20
college
37:20
campuses.
37:21
And
37:22
people
37:22
come
37:22
in,
37:22
they're
37:22
having
37:22
trouble,
37:23
and
37:23
they
37:23
have
37:23
no
37:23
memory
37:24
that
37:24
anything
37:25
ever
37:25
happened
37:25
to
37:25
them.
37:26
And
37:26
it's
37:26
only
37:26
through
37:27
intense
37:28
psychotherapy
37:28
or
37:29
hypnosis
37:30
that
37:30
we.
37:30
I
37:30
was
37:30
about
37:31
to
37:31
ask
37:31
if
37:31
are
37:32
you
37:32
like,
37:32
a
37:32
big
37:32
component
37:33
of
37:33
hypnosis?
37:33
Like,
37:34
do
37:34
you
37:34
really
37:34
believe
37:35
that
37:35
that's
37:36
a
37:36
Helpful
37:37
tool.
37:38
I
37:38
do.
37:38
I.
37:38
I
37:39
don't
37:39
do
37:39
it,
37:39
but
37:40
I
37:40
do
37:40
believe
37:40
it.
37:40
It's
37:41
a
37:41
helpful
37:41
tool.
37:42
I
37:43
had
37:43
this
37:43
patient
37:45
that
37:45
I
37:46
saw
37:46
that
37:47
was
37:47
sent
37:47
to
37:47
me
37:48
because
37:48
he
37:48
looked
37:50
just
37:50
like
37:50
he
37:50
had
37:51
multiple
37:51
sclerosis.
37:53
Mine
37:53
suddenly.
37:54
And
37:54
he's
37:54
young,
37:55
and
37:55
this
37:55
is
37:55
the
37:56
population
37:56
that
37:56
it
37:56
comes
37:57
in,
37:57
and
37:57
he's
37:58
otherwise
37:58
completely
37:59
normal
37:59
and
37:59
healthy
38:00
and
38:01
psychologically
38:02
healthy.
38:02
He
38:03
had
38:03
been
38:03
engaged
38:03
to
38:03
be
38:04
married.
38:04
He
38:04
was.
38:05
Had
38:05
a
38:05
good
38:05
job
38:05
in.
38:06
In
38:09
construction,
38:10
and
38:11
just.
38:12
Just
38:13
happened.
38:13
And
38:13
all
38:13
of
38:13
a
38:14
sudden,
38:14
he.
38:14
He
38:14
couldn't
38:15
walk,
38:15
and
38:15
he
38:15
got
38:15
more
38:16
and
38:16
more
38:16
stiff,
38:16
and
38:16
his
38:17
limbs
38:17
were
38:17
spastic.
38:18
And
38:18
he
38:18
woke
38:18
up
38:19
one
38:19
day
38:19
and
38:19
he
38:19
could
38:19
barely
38:20
move
38:20
his
38:20
legs.
38:21
And
38:21
then
38:21
he
38:21
was
38:21
having
38:22
trouble
38:22
moving
38:22
his
38:22
arms,
38:23
and
38:23
he
38:23
was
38:24
getting
38:24
numb.
38:24
And
38:25
when
38:25
you
38:25
watched
38:26
him
38:26
and
38:26
walking
38:27
and
38:27
trying
38:27
to
38:28
function,
38:28
he
38:28
looked
38:29
just
38:29
like
38:29
he
38:30
had
38:30
multiple
38:31
sclerosis.
38:32
And
38:33
so
38:34
the
38:35
bad
38:35
thing
38:35
was
38:35
he
38:36
had
38:36
lost
38:36
his
38:36
job,
38:37
and
38:37
so
38:38
he
38:39
had
38:39
no
38:39
insurance.
38:40
And
38:41
so
38:41
I'm
38:41
trying
38:41
to
38:41
figure
38:41
out.
38:42
I'm
38:42
calling
38:42
the
38:42
MRI
38:43
facility
38:43
where
38:44
you
38:44
just
38:44
do
38:44
this
38:44
for
38:45
free.
38:45
This.
38:46
This
38:46
guy
38:46
really
38:47
need
38:47
help.
38:47
We
38:47
have
38:47
to
38:47
get
38:47
a
38:48
diagnosis
38:48
right
38:49
away
38:49
and.
38:49
And
38:50
get
38:50
him
38:50
care.
38:50
And
38:52
we
38:52
did
38:52
all
38:53
the
38:53
tests.
38:54
Nothing
38:55
was
38:55
there.
38:55
Nothing
38:56
was
38:56
there.
38:57
And
38:57
so,
38:58
you
38:58
know,
38:58
one
38:59
thing
38:59
about.
38:59
People
39:00
that
39:00
would
39:00
be
39:00
devastating,
39:01
too,
39:01
I
39:01
bet
39:01
for
39:01
him.
39:02
Because
39:02
of
39:02
play.
39:03
Yeah,
39:04
it
39:04
was
39:04
devastating
39:05
for
39:05
him.
39:06
And
39:06
so
39:06
he.
39:07
He
39:07
lost
39:07
his
39:08
job.
39:08
And
39:08
so
39:09
he
39:09
decided
39:09
he
39:09
wanted
39:10
to
39:10
become
39:10
a
39:11
firefighter.
39:11
And
39:12
he
39:12
couldn't
39:12
pass
39:13
the.
39:15
The
39:15
physical.
39:15
And
39:16
he's
39:16
a
39:16
big,
39:16
you
39:16
know,
39:17
healthy
39:17
guy,
39:17
couldn't
39:18
pass
39:18
the
39:18
fiscal
39:18
for
39:18
firefighting.
39:20
So
39:20
then
39:20
he
39:20
decided
39:20
he
39:21
was
39:21
going
39:21
to
39:21
be
39:21
a
39:21
policeman.
39:22
And
39:22
he
39:23
went
39:23
through
39:23
all
39:23
the
39:23
training.
39:23
Couldn't
39:24
pass
39:24
the
39:24
physical
39:25
for
39:25
a
39:25
policeman.
39:26
It
39:26
was
39:26
crazy.
39:27
And
39:27
then
39:27
he
39:28
started
39:28
developing
39:29
all
39:29
these
39:29
symptoms.
39:31
So
39:31
I
39:31
thought,
39:32
you
39:32
know,
39:32
he's
39:32
not
39:33
as
39:33
concerned
39:33
as
39:33
he
39:34
should
39:34
be
39:34
about
39:34
it.
39:35
He's
39:36
like,
39:36
has
39:36
this
39:38
dull
39:38
affect.
39:38
You
39:39
know,
39:39
I'd
39:39
be
39:39
screaming
39:40
up
39:40
and
39:40
down
39:40
and,
39:41
you
39:41
know,
39:41
help
39:41
me.
39:41
Help
39:42
me
39:42
do
39:42
something.
39:42
I
39:42
can't.
39:43
I
39:43
can't
39:43
move.
39:43
I
39:43
can't
39:44
walk.
39:44
I'm
39:44
only.
39:44
Yeah,
39:45
so
39:45
I'll
39:45
do
39:46
something.
39:46
He
39:47
wasn't
39:47
that
39:47
alarmed.
39:49
And
39:49
that's
39:49
like
39:50
a
39:50
little
39:50
tip
39:50
off
39:50
that
39:51
maybe
39:51
this
39:51
is
39:52
functional.
39:53
And
39:54
so
39:55
I
39:55
talked
39:55
to
39:56
him
39:56
at
39:57
length.
39:58
What
39:58
happened?
39:58
Did
39:59
anything
39:59
ever
39:59
happen
39:59
to
40:00
you?
40:00
What
40:00
precipitated
40:01
this?
40:01
Well,
40:01
nothing.
40:02
Absolutely
40:03
nothing.
40:03
I
40:03
just
40:04
wanted
40:04
to
40:04
change
40:04
careers,
40:06
and
40:06
I
40:06
couldn't
40:06
get
40:07
anything.
40:07
So
40:07
I
40:08
sent
40:08
him
40:08
to
40:09
this
40:10
therapist
40:10
that
40:10
I
40:11
know
40:11
who's
40:12
just
40:12
fabulous,
40:13
and
40:13
they're
40:14
hard
40:14
to
40:14
find.
40:15
Fabulous
40:17
trauma
40:18
at
40:18
ptsd.
40:20
And
40:22
she
40:22
said,
40:22
well.
40:23
And
40:23
I
40:23
said,
40:23
you've
40:23
got
40:24
to
40:24
see
40:24
him
40:24
for
40:24
free.
40:25
And
40:26
said,
40:26
when
40:26
you
40:26
see
40:27
him,
40:27
you'll
40:27
understand.
40:28
He's
40:28
such
40:28
a
40:28
nice
40:29
guy.
40:29
You
40:30
got
40:30
it.
40:30
You
40:30
can't
40:30
put
40:31
any
40:31
more
40:31
stress
40:31
on
40:31
him
40:32
because
40:32
I'll
40:33
see
40:33
him
40:33
once.
40:34
But
40:34
then
40:34
he's
40:35
got
40:35
to
40:35
borrow
40:35
the
40:36
money
40:36
or
40:36
something,
40:36
otherwise
40:37
he
40:37
won't
40:37
appreciate
40:38
the
40:38
visit.
40:38
Exactly.
40:39
So
40:40
I
40:40
get
40:40
this
40:40
call
40:40
from
40:40
her.
40:41
Oh,
40:41
I'm
40:41
going
40:41
to
40:41
see
40:41
him
40:42
every
40:42
week.
40:42
I
40:42
don't
40:43
care
40:43
how
40:44
much
40:44
time.
40:45
He's
40:46
such
40:46
a
40:46
nice.
40:46
I
40:46
just
40:47
really
40:47
want
40:47
to
40:47
help
40:47
this.
40:48
This
40:48
kid.
40:49
And
40:50
so
40:50
finally,
40:51
she
40:51
was
40:51
convinced,
40:52
too.
40:52
Something
40:52
happened
40:53
to
40:53
him.
40:53
He
40:54
didn't
40:54
know
40:54
what
40:54
it
40:54
was.
40:54
Nobody
40:55
knew
40:55
what
40:55
it
40:55
was.
40:56
So
40:57
she
40:57
enlisted
40:58
hypnosis.
41:00
And
41:00
as
41:00
it
41:00
turned
41:01
out,
41:02
right
41:02
before
41:02
he
41:02
quit
41:03
his
41:03
job,
41:03
he
41:04
was
41:04
digging
41:05
underground
41:06
into
41:06
a
41:07
big
41:08
sewer
41:08
pipe
41:09
was
41:09
blocked,
41:09
and
41:10
they
41:10
were
41:10
trying
41:10
to
41:10
clear
41:11
it
41:11
out.
41:12
And
41:12
as
41:12
he
41:12
got
41:13
under
41:13
in
41:13
there,
41:14
he
41:14
got
41:15
stuck.
41:16
Oh.
41:16
And
41:16
he
41:17
was
41:17
stuck
41:17
inside
41:17
this
41:18
little,
41:18
dark,
41:19
wet
41:19
pipe.
41:20
And
41:20
there
41:20
were
41:20
rats,
41:21
and
41:22
he
41:22
couldn't
41:22
move.
41:22
He
41:23
was
41:23
under
41:23
there
41:23
for
41:23
eight
41:24
hours.
41:24
Holy
41:25
smokes.
41:27
And
41:27
he
41:27
totally
41:28
dissociated.
41:29
He
41:29
came
41:29
out
41:30
and
41:30
he
41:31
was
41:31
okay.
41:31
And
41:31
he,
41:32
you
41:32
know,
41:32
he
41:32
survived
41:33
it.
41:33
But
41:34
then
41:34
a
41:34
few
41:34
weeks
41:34
later,
41:35
he
41:35
said,
41:35
you
41:35
know,
41:35
I
41:35
don't
41:35
want
41:35
to
41:36
do
41:36
this
41:36
job
41:36
anymore.
41:36
I
41:37
think
41:37
I
41:37
want
41:37
to
41:37
be
41:37
a
41:37
firefighter.
41:38
I
41:38
think
41:38
he
41:39
didn't
41:39
remember
41:39
being
41:39
stuck
41:40
for
41:40
eight
41:40
hours.
41:41
No.
41:42
He
41:43
just
41:43
remembered
41:43
he
41:43
had
41:43
a
41:44
bad
41:44
experience
41:44
at
41:44
work,
41:45
and
41:45
he
41:45
just
41:45
did
41:45
not
41:46
remember.
41:47
He
41:47
blocked
41:47
that
41:48
out.
41:49
Wow.
41:49
And
41:50
that's
41:50
not
41:50
like
41:50
a
41:50
long
41:51
time
41:51
gap.
41:51
That's
41:52
just.
41:53
No,
41:53
that
41:53
was
41:54
said
41:54
just,
41:54
like,
41:55
two
41:55
months
41:55
earlier.
41:57
What?
41:58
Yes.
41:58
Yes.
41:59
And
41:59
so
41:59
with
42:00
hypnosis,
42:00
he
42:01
remembered
42:01
it
42:02
because.
42:02
Hypnosis,
42:03
your
42:03
subconscious.
42:04
Yeah.
42:05
And
42:05
as
42:05
it
42:06
turned
42:06
out,
42:06
this
42:06
kid
42:07
was
42:07
brought
42:07
up
42:07
to,
42:08
you
42:08
know,
42:09
you're
42:09
a
42:09
guy,
42:09
be
42:09
a
42:09
man.
42:10
You
42:10
know,
42:10
don't
42:11
talk
42:11
about,
42:12
you
42:12
know,
42:12
you
42:13
have
42:13
a
42:13
headache
42:13
or
42:13
anything.
42:14
You
42:14
don't
42:14
get
42:14
out
42:14
there.
42:15
Yeah.
42:15
And
42:16
it
42:16
was
42:16
the
42:16
family
42:16
dynamics
42:17
where
42:18
none
42:18
of
42:18
them
42:18
talked
42:18
much
42:19
about
42:19
their
42:19
feelings.
42:20
And
42:21
so
42:21
he
42:21
just
42:21
learned
42:21
to
42:22
suppress
42:22
those
42:22
things.
42:23
And
42:24
he
42:24
had
42:24
forgotten.
42:25
He
42:25
had
42:25
completely
42:26
forgotten
42:27
this
42:27
event
42:28
until
42:28
it
42:28
came
42:28
out
42:29
in
42:29
hypnosis.
42:30
Wow.
42:31
Took
42:31
months
42:32
once
42:32
he
42:33
remembered
42:33
it.
42:34
And
42:34
in
42:35
hypnosis,
42:35
they
42:35
said,
42:35
you're
42:36
going
42:36
to
42:36
remember
42:36
this
42:37
when
42:37
you
42:38
wake
42:38
up.
42:38
And
42:38
he
42:39
remembered
42:39
it,
42:40
and
42:40
it
42:40
was
42:41
frightening,
42:41
but
42:41
he
42:42
then
42:42
knew
42:43
what
42:44
was
42:44
wrong.
42:45
Yeah.
42:45
That's
42:46
amazing,
42:46
because
42:46
it
42:46
was
42:46
like
42:47
he
42:47
was
42:47
in
42:47
a
42:48
tube.
42:48
He
42:49
couldn't
42:49
move
42:50
his
42:50
arms
42:50
or
42:50
his
42:50
legs.
42:51
They
42:51
were
42:51
just
42:51
stiff.
42:52
And
42:52
until
42:53
he
42:54
remembered
42:55
it
42:55
and
42:55
dealt
42:55
with
42:56
that
42:56
trauma,
42:56
those
42:57
feelings
42:57
didn't
42:58
get
42:58
better.
42:59
And
43:00
he
43:00
came
43:00
to
43:00
see
43:00
me
43:01
like,
43:01
six
43:01
months
43:01
later,
43:02
and
43:02
he
43:02
was
43:02
walking
43:02
and
43:03
feeling
43:03
great,
43:03
and
43:04
he.
43:04
I
43:04
just.
43:05
He
43:05
had
43:05
a
43:05
new
43:05
girlfriend
43:06
and
43:06
he
43:07
was
43:07
going
43:07
to
43:07
be
43:07
an
43:08
EMT
43:08
and
43:09
got
43:09
into
43:09
school
43:09
and.
43:10
Wow.
43:11
His
43:11
hypnosis
43:12
and
43:12
psychotherapy
43:13
really
43:13
cured
43:14
him.
43:15
Wow.
43:15
It's
43:16
another.
43:16
Another
43:16
example.
43:17
There's
43:17
so
43:17
many.
43:18
Yeah.
43:19
Things.
43:19
But
43:20
it's
43:20
real.
43:21
It's
43:21
very
43:22
real.
43:22
And
43:22
if
43:22
you
43:22
don't
43:23
get
43:23
help
43:24
right
43:24
away
43:25
and
43:25
get
43:25
to
43:26
the
43:26
bottom
43:26
of
43:26
it.
43:27
So
43:27
if
43:27
somebody
43:27
said
43:28
to
43:28
him,
43:29
okay,
43:29
I
43:30
think
43:30
you
43:30
have
43:30
ms,
43:31
but
43:31
it's
43:32
just
43:32
not
43:32
showing
43:32
up
43:32
on
43:32
your
43:33
MRI
43:33
yet,
43:33
we'll
43:33
put
43:34
you
43:34
on
43:34
Ms.
43:34
Drugs
43:35
and
43:35
we'll
43:35
say,
43:35
the
43:36
rest
43:36
of
43:36
his
43:36
life,
43:38
the
43:38
rest
43:38
of
43:38
his
43:38
life,
43:39
he
43:39
would
43:39
have
43:39
been
43:39
like
43:39
that.
43:40
Oh,
43:40
my
43:40
gosh.
43:42
If
43:42
you
43:42
know
43:42
something's
43:43
wrong,
43:43
if
43:43
you
43:43
feel
43:44
it
43:44
in
43:44
your
43:44
gut
43:45
and
43:45
you
43:45
don't
43:46
feel
43:46
like
43:46
your
43:47
doctor
43:47
is
43:47
listening
43:48
or
43:49
your
43:49
doctor's
43:49
frustrated
43:50
because
43:50
they
43:51
don't
43:51
know
43:51
what's
43:51
wrong,
43:52
you
43:52
know,
43:52
it's
43:53
frustrating
43:53
for
43:54
the
43:54
doctor,
43:54
too,
43:54
that
43:55
they'll
43:55
say,
43:55
well,
43:55
it
43:56
must
43:56
be
43:56
this,
43:57
and
43:57
let's
43:58
just
43:58
proceed
43:58
like
43:58
it
43:58
is
43:59
that,
43:59
because
44:00
they
44:00
did,
44:01
too.
44:02
So
44:02
that's
44:02
how
44:02
we
44:02
end
44:03
up
44:03
on
44:03
the
44:03
drugs
44:04
for
44:04
so
44:04
long.
44:05
Because
44:05
even
44:05
though
44:05
it's
44:05
not
44:06
showing
44:06
up,
44:06
like,
44:06
it
44:06
has
44:07
to
44:07
be
44:07
this,
44:07
because
44:08
that's
44:08
exactly
44:09
what
44:09
it
44:09
looks
44:09
like.
44:10
Exactly.
44:11
Exactly.
44:12
Okay.
44:13
Your
44:13
case,
44:13
they
44:14
thought,
44:14
well,
44:14
it
44:14
could
44:15
be
44:15
frontal
44:15
lobe
44:15
seizures,
44:16
too,
44:16
because
44:16
we
44:16
don't
44:16
pick
44:17
those
44:17
up
44:17
as
44:17
well
44:18
on
44:18
the
44:18
eeg.
44:19
Yeah,
44:19
that's
44:19
what
44:19
we
44:19
thought
44:19
it
44:19
was.
44:20
Partial
44:20
frontal.
44:21
Yeah.
44:22
And
44:22
they
44:22
are.
44:23
You
44:23
know,
44:23
these
44:24
things
44:24
are
44:24
very
44:24
difficult
44:25
to
44:25
diagnose
44:25
because
44:25
they
44:25
look
44:26
exactly
44:26
like
44:27
the
44:28
real
44:28
thing.
44:29
They
44:29
really
44:29
do.
44:29
And
44:29
people
44:30
manifest
44:30
the
44:30
same
44:31
symptoms
44:31
and
44:32
they
44:32
get
44:32
the
44:32
aura.
44:33
And
44:34
you
44:34
cannot
44:34
differentiate
44:35
these
44:36
by
44:36
symptoms
44:36
alone
44:37
or
44:38
even
44:38
someone.
44:39
It's
44:39
just
44:39
wild
44:40
that
44:40
you
44:40
would
44:40
get
44:41
the
44:41
same.
44:41
Like,
44:41
I
44:41
didn't
44:42
know
44:42
anything
44:42
about
44:42
seizures.
44:43
So
44:43
it's
44:43
really
44:43
weird
44:44
how
44:44
they
44:44
would
44:44
manifest
44:45
when
44:45
I
44:45
don't
44:46
know
44:46
anything
44:46
about
44:46
seizures
44:47
or
44:47
symptoms
44:47
or,
44:47
like,
44:48
what
44:48
they
44:48
look
44:48
like
44:48
and
44:48
what's
44:49
typical
44:49
or
44:49
whatever.
44:50
So
44:50
it's
44:50
like,
44:50
how
44:50
does
44:51
our
44:51
brain
44:51
just
44:52
not
44:52
make
44:52
it
44:52
up?
44:52
But
44:53
how
44:53
does
44:53
our
44:53
brain,
44:53
like,
44:54
act
44:55
like
44:55
that
44:55
when
44:55
they
44:55
don't
44:56
even
44:56
know
44:56
it's
44:56
a
44:56
thing?
44:57
It's
44:58
kind
44:58
of
44:58
like
44:59
your
44:59
emotions
45:00
short
45:00
circuit
45:01
the
45:01
consciousness
45:01
center
45:02
and
45:02
they
45:03
feed
45:03
neural
45:04
input
45:04
right
45:04
into
45:04
the.
45:05
The
45:05
motor
45:06
center,
45:06
which
45:06
causes
45:07
you
45:07
to
45:08
shake
45:08
and
45:08
have
45:08
seizures,
45:09
beaten
45:09
up
45:10
and
45:10
get
45:10
all
45:10
these
45:11
feelings
45:12
like
45:12
you
45:12
were
45:12
having
45:13
a
45:13
seizure,
45:13
but
45:13
it's
45:14
not
45:14
due
45:14
to
45:14
an.
45:14
It's
45:15
not
45:15
due
45:15
to
45:15
an
45:15
electrical
45:16
disturbance.
45:16
It's
45:17
due
45:17
to
45:17
an
45:17
emotional
45:17
disturbance.
45:18
An
45:18
emotional.
45:19
Sounds
45:20
scary
45:20
because,
45:20
like,
45:20
well,
45:21
I'm.
45:21
Are
45:21
you
45:21
telling
45:22
me
45:22
I'm
45:22
crazy?
45:22
But
45:23
no.
45:23
Yeah.
45:24
Emotionally.
45:25
Just
45:25
short
45:25
circuiting
45:26
consciousness.
45:27
Yeah.
45:28
Your
45:28
brain
45:28
didn't
45:28
make
45:28
it
45:29
up
45:29
like
45:30
your
45:30
body
45:31
was.
45:31
Yeah,
45:32
yeah.
45:33
Taking
45:33
on
45:33
all
45:34
the
45:34
stress.
45:37
Yeah,
45:38
I.
45:38
Yes,
45:39
you're.
45:40
That
45:40
is.
45:41
It's
45:42
a
45:42
lot.
45:43
It's
45:43
still
45:43
overwhelming
45:44
and
45:44
it's
45:44
still
45:44
like
45:45
one
45:45
of
45:45
those
45:45
things
45:45
where
45:45
it's
45:46
like
45:47
kind
45:47
of
45:47
something
45:48
that
45:48
you
45:48
don't
45:48
want
45:48
to
45:49
talk
45:49
about,
45:49
which,
45:49
like,
45:49
I
45:49
feel
45:49
like
45:50
is
45:50
probably
45:50
going
45:50
to
45:51
add
45:51
more
45:51
trauma.
45:52
That's
45:53
gonna
45:53
have
45:53
to
45:53
get
45:53
worked
45:53
out.
45:54
When
45:54
it's
45:54
something
45:54
that,
45:54
like,
45:55
I
45:55
still
45:56
am
45:56
very
45:56
uncomfortable
45:57
talking
45:57
about
45:57
because
45:58
it's
45:58
like,
45:59
it's
45:59
still
46:00
very
46:00
uncomfortable
46:00
to
46:01
explain
46:01
to
46:01
people.
46:02
Like,
46:02
yeah,
46:02
yeah,
46:03
I.
46:03
I
46:04
had
46:04
seizures,
46:04
but
46:06
I
46:06
don't
46:07
anymore.
46:07
Are
46:07
you
46:07
on
46:07
meds?
46:09
Sure.
46:11
Yeah.
46:12
Just
46:12
drop
46:12
it.
46:13
What
46:14
I
46:14
tell
46:14
people
46:15
is
46:15
it's
46:16
better
46:16
not
46:16
to
46:16
talk
46:17
about
46:17
it
46:17
to
46:17
people
46:18
because
46:18
they
46:18
don't
46:19
understand.
46:20
Yeah,
46:20
yeah.
46:21
Thing
46:21
to
46:21
understand.
46:22
And
46:22
so
46:22
if
46:22
you
46:23
tell
46:23
somebody,
46:24
it's
46:24
like
46:24
when
46:24
someone
46:25
is.
46:25
I
46:25
tell
46:26
people
46:26
when
46:26
they're
46:26
first
46:26
diagnosed
46:27
with
46:27
Ms.
46:28
And
46:28
they
46:28
look
46:28
normal,
46:29
they
46:29
look
46:30
just
46:30
fine.
46:30
And
46:30
we're
46:30
going
46:31
to
46:31
get
46:31
them
46:31
on
46:31
medication
46:32
and
46:32
they're
46:32
going
46:32
to
46:32
do
46:33
well
46:34
today
46:34
because
46:34
we
46:35
have
46:35
these
46:35
wonderful
46:35
medications.
46:36
If
46:36
you
46:36
get
46:37
it
46:37
early,
46:38
I
46:38
said,
46:38
don't
46:39
tell
46:39
people
46:39
right
46:40
away
46:40
because
46:40
as
46:41
soon
46:41
as
46:41
you
46:41
do,
46:41
they'll
46:41
say,
46:42
oh,
46:42
I
46:42
knew
46:42
somebody,
46:43
they
46:43
were
46:43
in
46:43
a
46:43
wheelchair
46:44
in
46:44
a
46:44
year
46:45
and
46:45
my.
46:45
My
46:46
aunt
46:46
had
46:46
it
46:46
and
46:46
she
46:47
died
46:47
of
46:47
it.
46:47
And
46:48
because
46:48
they
46:49
don't
46:49
understand
46:49
it
46:50
and
46:50
they're
46:50
going
46:50
to
46:50
scare
46:51
you,
46:51
they're
46:51
going
46:51
to
46:51
say
46:52
suggestions,
46:53
and
46:53
you're
46:53
going
46:53
to
46:54
get
46:54
terrified
46:55
because
46:56
you
46:56
need
46:56
to
46:56
understand
46:57
it
46:57
first.
46:58
Yeah.
46:58
Once
46:59
you
46:59
understand
46:59
it
47:00
and
47:00
you
47:00
understand
47:01
you're
47:01
going
47:01
to
47:01
be
47:02
fine,
47:02
then
47:03
you
47:03
can
47:03
easily
47:03
share
47:04
it
47:04
with
47:04
people
47:04
if
47:04
you
47:04
want
47:05
to,
47:05
because
47:05
what
47:06
they
47:06
come
47:07
back
47:07
and
47:07
say
47:07
to
47:07
you,
47:07
well,
47:07
you
47:08
should
47:08
be
47:08
on
47:08
medication
47:09
or
47:09
you
47:09
shouldn't
47:09
drive
47:10
or
47:10
you
47:10
shouldn't
47:10
do
47:11
this
47:11
because
47:11
they
47:12
don't
47:12
understand.
47:13
Oh,
47:13
that
47:13
makes
47:13
sense.
47:14
It
47:14
won't
47:14
bother
47:14
you
47:15
because
47:15
you
47:15
do
47:15
understand.
47:16
It
47:16
says,
47:16
no,
47:16
no,
47:16
no,
47:17
it's
47:17
not
47:17
that
47:17
kind
47:17
of
47:17
seizure.
47:18
And
47:18
she
47:19
can
47:19
educate
47:20
them.
47:21
Yeah.
47:22
But
47:22
until
47:22
you're
47:22
comfortable
47:23
with
47:23
it
47:23
and
47:24
you
47:24
understand
47:25
it,
47:25
it's
47:26
kind
47:26
of
47:26
just
47:28
not
47:28
let
47:29
other
47:29
people
47:29
affect
47:30
you.
47:30
Does
47:30
that
47:30
make
47:31
sense?
47:31
Right.
47:31
It's
47:32
like,
47:32
don't
47:32
go
47:33
straight
47:33
to
47:33
Google
47:34
and
47:34
get
47:34
all
47:34
of
47:34
the.
47:35
Yeah.
47:36
I
47:36
don't
47:36
know.
47:37
It's
47:37
not
47:38
exactly
47:38
the
47:38
same,
47:38
but
47:39
yeah.
47:40
Okay.
47:40
So
47:42
I'm
47:42
sorry,
47:42
I
47:43
have
47:43
got
47:43
to
47:43
run
47:43
to
47:43
the
47:43
restroom
47:44
really
47:44
quick,
47:44
but
47:47
Carolyn
47:48
has.
47:50
That's
47:50
what
47:51
I
47:51
was
47:51
gonna
47:51
say,
47:51
but
47:52
then
47:52
I
47:52
was
47:52
like,
47:52
too
47:52
soon.
47:53
Seriously,
47:53
my
47:54
friends,
47:54
like,
47:54
my
47:54
best
47:55
friend,
47:55
she
47:55
has
47:56
always,
47:56
always,
47:56
always
47:57
made
47:57
fun
47:57
of
47:57
me
47:57
for
47:57
my
47:57
tiny
47:58
bladder.
47:58
And
47:58
she's
47:59
like,
47:59
I
47:59
just
47:59
don't
47:59
know
47:59
anyone
48:00
who
48:00
has
48:00
this,
48:01
like,
48:01
tiny
48:01
bladder.
48:02
And
48:02
I
48:02
literally,
48:02
when
48:03
I
48:03
start
48:03
getting
48:03
stressed
48:03
or
48:04
overwhelmed,
48:04
like,
48:04
I
48:04
have
48:05
to
48:05
pee.
48:05
And
48:05
I
48:05
have
48:05
to
48:05
pee
48:05
right
48:06
now.
48:07
Cannot
48:08
wait.
48:08
But,
48:09
Melissa,
48:09
I
48:10
want
48:10
you
48:10
to
48:10
hear
48:11
Carolyn's
48:12
personal
48:12
story
48:13
of
48:13
how
48:14
she
48:14
had
48:14
to
48:14
fight
48:14
for
48:15
herself
48:16
to
48:17
get
48:17
a
48:17
correct
48:17
diagnosis
48:18
and
48:19
how
48:19
she
48:19
now
48:19
advocates
48:20
for
48:20
people
48:20
and
48:20
helps
48:21
people
48:21
advocate
48:22
for
48:22
themselves.
48:22
Thank
48:23
you.
48:23
Yeah.
48:24
You
48:24
hear
48:24
that
48:24
story?
48:24
I'll
48:25
be
48:25
right
48:25
back.
48:25
Okay?
48:25
Okay.
48:26
Yeah.
48:27
Carolyn,
48:27
please,
48:27
because
48:29
as
48:29
we've
48:29
been
48:29
talking
48:30
about,
48:30
like,
48:30
if
48:30
you
48:30
don't
48:31
advocate
48:31
for
48:31
yourself,
48:32
sometimes
48:32
you're
48:32
just
48:32
going
48:33
to
48:33
get
48:33
lost
48:33
in
48:33
the
48:34
hole.
48:35
You
48:35
are.
48:35
And
48:36
it's
48:36
so
48:36
hard
48:36
for
48:37
someone
48:37
who's
48:38
doesn't
48:38
have
48:39
the
48:39
medical
48:39
background
48:40
because
48:40
you
48:40
just,
48:41
you
48:41
know,
48:41
there
48:42
might
48:42
be
48:42
a
48:42
little,
48:43
like,
48:43
smirk
48:44
or
48:44
a
48:44
little
48:45
just
48:45
blank
48:46
look
48:46
on
48:46
the
48:47
face
48:47
of
48:47
the
48:47
doctor
48:47
talking
48:48
to
48:48
you,
48:48
and
48:48
they
48:48
just
48:48
say,
48:48
no,
48:48
no,
48:49
you're
48:49
fine.
48:49
Just
48:49
lose
48:50
weight.
48:50
Yeah,
48:51
yeah,
48:51
just
48:51
lose
48:52
weight.
48:52
You're
48:53
just
48:53
stressed.
48:54
Yeah.
48:54
So.
48:55
So
48:55
as
48:55
a
48:55
physician
48:57
who's
48:57
been
48:58
healthy
48:58
all
48:58
her
48:58
life,
48:59
I
48:59
went
48:59
for
49:00
my
49:00
routine
49:01
gynecological
49:02
checkup.
49:02
Okay.
49:03
That's
49:03
probably
49:04
the
49:04
only
49:04
doctor
49:04
I
49:04
ever
49:05
saw
49:05
I
49:05
would
49:06
see
49:06
regularly
49:07
was
49:07
once
49:07
a
49:07
year
49:08
I
49:08
would
49:08
go
49:08
for
49:08
my
49:08
Pap
49:09
smear
49:09
and.
49:10
And
49:10
just
49:11
to
49:11
take
49:11
care
49:11
of
49:11
myself.
49:12
And
49:13
I
49:13
saw
49:13
for
49:14
many
49:14
years,
49:14
for
49:15
20
49:15
years,
49:16
another
49:17
female
49:17
physician
49:18
who
49:18
was.
49:18
She
49:19
was
49:19
about
49:19
my
49:19
age,
49:20
and
49:21
we
49:21
had
49:21
a
49:21
good
49:21
relationship.
49:22
And
49:23
so
49:23
it's
49:23
physician
49:23
to
49:23
physician.
49:24
Yeah.
49:25
Went
49:25
to
49:26
her,
49:26
this
49:27
is
49:27
five
49:27
years
49:27
ago
49:27
now,
49:28
and
49:28
said,
49:29
you
49:29
know,
49:29
I
49:29
have.
49:30
I'm
49:31
not
49:31
fine
49:31
now.
49:32
I
49:32
said
49:32
I
49:32
was.
49:33
I
49:33
know
49:34
I
49:34
always
49:34
come
49:34
in
49:34
for
49:34
a
49:34
routine
49:35
checkup,
49:35
but
49:35
now
49:35
I'm
49:35
having
49:36
a
49:36
symptom
49:37
and
49:37
I
49:37
have
49:38
postmenopausal
49:39
bleeding,
49:39
which
49:39
is
49:40
not
49:40
normal,
49:41
right?
49:41
No,
49:42
no,
49:42
it's
49:42
not.
49:42
We
49:42
need
49:43
to
49:43
do
49:43
a
49:43
uterine
49:44
biopsy
49:45
for
49:46
uterine
49:46
cancer.
49:47
So
49:48
it's
49:48
a
49:48
procedure
49:48
you
49:48
have
49:49
in
49:49
the
49:49
office.
49:49
It's
49:49
quite
49:50
painful.
49:51
It
49:51
is.
49:52
I
49:53
had
49:53
a
49:53
different
49:53
one,
49:53
but
49:54
it
49:54
was
49:54
similar
49:55
biopsy
49:55
up
49:55
in
49:56
there.
49:56
And
49:56
it
49:56
was
49:56
painful,
49:57
very
49:57
painful.
49:58
And
49:58
so
49:59
I
49:59
went
49:59
through
49:59
that,
50:00
and
50:00
she
50:00
said,
50:01
you
50:01
know,
50:01
I'll
50:01
call
50:01
you
50:01
as
50:01
soon
50:02
as
50:02
I
50:02
have
50:02
the
50:02
results.
50:02
And
50:03
results
50:03
came
50:03
back
50:03
and
50:04
they
50:04
were
50:04
normal.
50:04
And
50:04
I
50:04
was
50:05
relieved.
50:05
I
50:05
thought,
50:05
well,
50:06
fine.
50:06
And
50:06
she
50:07
goes,
50:07
yeah,
50:07
you're
50:07
fine.
50:07
And
50:08
it
50:08
stopped.
50:09
Six
50:09
months
50:10
later,
50:10
it
50:10
came
50:10
back.
50:11
So
50:11
I
50:11
said,
50:11
well,
50:12
I'm
50:12
going
50:12
to
50:12
go
50:12
back.
50:13
So
50:13
I
50:13
went
50:13
back
50:13
to
50:13
see
50:14
her
50:14
and
50:14
I
50:15
Said,
50:15
you
50:15
know,
50:15
you're
50:15
not
50:15
used
50:15
to
50:16
seeing
50:16
me
50:16
more
50:16
than
50:16
once
50:16
a
50:16
year,
50:17
but
50:17
the
50:17
bleeding
50:17
is
50:17
bad.
50:19
So
50:19
she
50:19
said,
50:19
well,
50:19
do
50:20
another
50:20
biopsy
50:21
and
50:21
this
50:21
time
50:21
I'm
50:22
going
50:22
to
50:22
get
50:22
an
50:22
ultrasound,
50:23
okay?
50:24
Biopsy
50:24
was
50:24
negative
50:25
and
50:25
the
50:25
ultrasound
50:26
showed
50:26
a
50:26
polyp.
50:28
And
50:28
she
50:28
said,
50:28
well,
50:28
it's
50:29
just
50:29
a
50:29
benign
50:29
polyp,
50:29
we
50:30
don't
50:30
need
50:30
to
50:30
do
50:30
anything
50:30
about
50:31
it.
50:31
And
50:32
the
50:32
bleeding
50:32
went
50:32
away.
50:33
So
50:33
I
50:33
thought,
50:34
well,
50:34
I
50:35
put
50:35
this
50:35
in
50:35
her
50:35
hands,
50:36
I'm
50:36
fine.
50:37
Okay.
50:38
Six
50:38
months
50:38
later,
50:39
she's
50:40
about
50:40
to
50:40
retire
50:41
and
50:41
leave
50:42
here
50:43
and
50:43
I
50:43
walk
50:43
in
50:44
and
50:45
she
50:45
wasn't
50:46
prepared,
50:46
wasn't
50:47
prepared
50:47
for
50:47
this.
50:47
She's
50:48
getting
50:48
ready
50:48
to
50:48
go.
50:48
She
50:49
didn't
50:49
want
50:49
to
50:49
see
50:49
anything
50:49
that
50:49
wasn't
50:50
routine
50:51
couple
50:52
days.
50:53
And
50:54
I
50:54
said,
50:54
I'm
50:54
back
50:54
because
50:55
that
50:55
bleeding
50:55
is
50:56
back.
50:56
And
50:56
she
50:56
said,
50:56
well,
50:57
I'm
50:57
not
50:57
doing
50:58
another
50:58
biopsy.
50:58
She
50:59
said,
50:59
you're
50:59
fine,
51:00
you're
51:00
just
51:01
stressed
51:02
and
51:02
you
51:03
don't
51:03
need
51:03
to
51:03
see
51:03
a
51:03
gynecologist
51:04
again
51:04
for
51:04
a
51:05
year.
51:05
I'm
51:05
going
51:05
to
51:05
give
51:05
you
51:06
some
51:06
names
51:06
of
51:06
other
51:06
people
51:07
you
51:07
can
51:07
see
51:07
next
51:07
year.
51:07
Here.
51:08
What?
51:09
Okay,
51:12
I'm
51:12
stressed.
51:13
We
51:14
all
51:14
live
51:14
stressful
51:14
lives,
51:15
but
51:15
no
51:15
more
51:15
stressed
51:16
than
51:16
I've
51:16
ever
51:17
been.
51:17
Yes,
51:19
everyday
51:19
life
51:19
stress.
51:19
And
51:20
I,
51:21
and
51:21
I
51:21
thought,
51:21
well,
51:21
okay.
51:22
And
51:22
I
51:22
wished
51:22
her
51:22
well.
51:22
And
51:23
I'm
51:23
thinking
51:23
about
51:23
it
51:24
as
51:24
the
51:24
week
51:24
went
51:24
by
51:25
and
51:25
I
51:25
thought,
51:25
you
51:25
know,
51:27
something's
51:28
wrong,
51:28
I
51:28
know
51:28
something's
51:29
wrong
51:29
and
51:30
I'm
51:30
just
51:31
gonna
51:31
take
51:31
myself
51:32
now
51:32
to
51:32
see
51:32
somebody
51:33
else.
51:33
So
51:34
I
51:34
went
51:34
and
51:34
saw
51:34
someone
51:34
else
51:35
and
51:36
they,
51:36
they
51:36
looked
51:36
at
51:37
all
51:37
my
51:37
records.
51:37
They
51:37
said,
51:38
oh,
51:38
you
51:38
should
51:38
have
51:38
had
51:38
a
51:39
hysteroscopy,
51:40
which
51:40
is
51:40
a
51:40
scraping
51:40
of
51:40
the
51:40
uterine
51:41
lining
51:41
and
51:41
removal
51:42
of
51:42
that
51:42
polyp
51:43
as
51:43
soon
51:43
as
51:43
they
51:43
saw
51:44
that,
51:45
which
51:45
was
51:46
now
51:46
eight
51:47
months
51:47
ago,
51:48
we're
51:48
going
51:48
to
51:49
do
51:49
that
51:49
right
51:49
away.
51:50
So
51:50
she
51:50
does.
51:52
And
51:55
so
51:55
it's
51:55
another
51:55
woman
51:56
physician.
51:56
I'm
51:56
thinking,
51:57
yeah,
51:58
if
51:58
there's
51:58
anything
51:59
there,
51:59
I'll
51:59
get
51:59
a
52:00
call
52:00
because
52:00
I
52:01
have
52:01
a
52:01
two
52:01
week
52:01
appointment
52:03
call.
52:03
And
52:04
nobody
52:04
called.
52:05
So
52:05
I
52:05
went
52:05
in
52:05
for
52:05
my
52:05
two
52:06
week
52:06
appointment
52:06
for
52:06
the
52:06
results.
52:07
And
52:07
the
52:07
interesting
52:08
thing
52:08
was
52:08
the
52:09
night
52:09
before
52:09
I
52:09
went
52:09
in,
52:09
I
52:09
had
52:10
a
52:10
dream
52:11
that
52:12
I
52:12
was
52:12
in
52:12
the
52:13
office
52:13
with
52:13
her.
52:13
You
52:13
know,
52:14
we'll
52:14
often
52:14
dream
52:14
about
52:14
something
52:15
we're
52:15
going
52:15
to
52:15
do
52:15
the
52:15
next
52:15
day.
52:17
Anxious
52:17
about
52:17
it.
52:18
And
52:18
I
52:19
said,
52:19
you
52:19
were
52:19
telling
52:19
me
52:20
that
52:20
I
52:20
had
52:20
a
52:20
malignancy
52:21
and
52:22
I
52:23
know
52:23
that
52:23
I
52:23
don't.
52:24
And
52:24
she
52:24
says,
52:25
no,
52:25
you
52:25
don't.
52:25
And
52:26
I
52:26
said,
52:26
he
52:26
would
52:26
have
52:27
called
52:27
me.
52:27
And
52:27
she
52:27
said,
52:27
oh,
52:28
absolutely.
52:28
And
52:29
we
52:29
were
52:29
laughing.
52:30
And
52:30
so
52:30
she's
52:31
looking
52:31
at
52:31
the
52:31
computer
52:31
as
52:32
we're
52:32
laughing
52:33
and
52:33
she
52:33
said,
52:34
oh,
52:34
wait
52:34
a
52:34
minute.
52:35
She
52:36
said,
52:36
your
52:36
results
52:36
aren't
52:37
here
52:38
and
52:38
they
52:38
should
52:38
have
52:38
been
52:39
on
52:39
the
52:39
computer.
52:40
So
52:40
she
52:40
had
52:40
to
52:40
call
52:40
for
52:41
them
52:41
to
52:41
get
52:41
them
52:42
faxed
52:42
over.
52:43
So.
52:43
I'm
52:43
so
52:44
sorry.
52:44
Oh,
52:45
no.
52:46
Yes.
52:47
She
52:47
said,
52:47
I'm
52:47
so
52:48
sorry.
52:48
You
52:48
do
52:49
have
52:49
a
52:49
malignancy.
52:50
That
52:50
polyp
52:50
was
52:50
malignant.
52:53
Oh,
52:53
my
52:53
gosh.
52:55
I
52:55
was
52:55
in
52:55
the
52:55
or,
52:57
like,
52:57
within
52:58
the
52:58
week
52:59
having
52:59
a
52:59
complete
53:00
hysterectomy.
53:02
And
53:03
the
53:03
thing
53:03
is
53:04
that
53:04
if
53:04
that
53:04
cancer,
53:05
it's
53:05
uterine
53:05
cancer,
53:06
if
53:06
it
53:06
gets
53:07
through
53:07
the
53:07
wall
53:08
of
53:08
the
53:08
uterus,
53:10
then
53:10
your
53:11
risk
53:11
of
53:11
being
53:11
alive,
53:12
you
53:12
only
53:12
have
53:12
a
53:12
25%
53:13
chance
53:14
of
53:14
still
53:14
being
53:14
alive
53:14
in
53:15
five
53:15
years.
53:16
It's
53:16
a
53:16
devastating
53:16
cancer
53:17
for
53:17
women.
53:19
And
53:19
if
53:19
it
53:20
hasn't.
53:20
If
53:20
it's
53:20
still
53:21
stage
53:21
one
53:21
and
53:21
hasn't
53:22
gone
53:22
through
53:23
the
53:23
wall
53:23
of
53:23
the
53:24
uterus,
53:25
then,
53:25
you
53:25
know,
53:25
there's
53:26
only.
53:26
There's
53:27
a
53:27
95%
53:28
chance
53:28
you'll
53:28
be
53:28
fine
53:28
in
53:29
five
53:29
years.
53:29
And
53:29
I'm.
53:29
Five
53:29
years.
53:30
I'm
53:30
fine.
53:31
Yeah.
53:32
Wait
53:33
a
53:33
year.
53:34
And
53:35
I'd
53:35
already
53:35
been
53:35
symptomatic
53:36
for
53:36
eight
53:36
months.
53:37
Whoa.
53:40
And
53:40
so
53:40
that's
53:41
a
53:41
woman
53:42
physician
53:42
treating
53:43
a
53:43
woman
53:43
physician.
53:44
I
53:44
mean,
53:44
she
53:45
was
53:45
in
53:45
a
53:45
hurry.
53:46
I
53:46
understand
53:46
she
53:47
was
53:47
in
53:47
a
53:47
hurry.
53:48
She
53:48
didn't
53:48
want
53:48
to
53:49
be
53:49
bothered
53:49
with.
53:50
We've
53:50
got
53:50
to
53:50
work
53:51
this
53:51
up
53:51
more.
53:51
What
53:51
am
53:52
I
53:52
going
53:52
to
53:52
do?
53:52
I'm
53:52
leaving.
53:53
You
53:54
know,
53:54
so
53:55
maybe
53:55
a
53:55
little
53:55
bit
53:55
of
53:55
it
53:56
was
53:56
unconscious,
53:56
but
53:56
to
53:57
say
53:57
to
53:57
someone,
53:57
oh,
53:58
you're
53:58
just
53:58
stressed.
53:59
I
53:59
never,
54:00
never
54:00
say
54:01
that
54:01
to
54:01
a
54:01
patient.
54:02
Because
54:02
we
54:03
are.
54:03
You
54:03
know,
54:03
people
54:04
can
54:04
be
54:04
stressed,
54:04
but
54:05
it
54:05
doesn't
54:05
mean
54:05
that
54:06
that's
54:06
causing
54:06
your
54:07
symptom.
54:07
That's
54:08
the
54:08
common
54:08
thing
54:08
to
54:09
brush
54:09
it
54:09
off,
54:09
too.
54:09
It's
54:10
stress
54:10
or
54:10
overweight.
54:11
And
54:11
those
54:11
are
54:11
the
54:11
things
54:12
that
54:12
doctors
54:12
always
54:12
say.
54:13
Yeah,
54:15
they
54:15
always
54:15
say,
54:16
wow.
54:18
Yeah.
54:19
Which
54:19
makes
54:19
it
54:19
really
54:19
hard
54:20
to
54:20
get
54:20
treated.
54:20
How.
54:22
When
54:22
do
54:22
you
54:23
know
54:23
to
54:23
push
54:24
back?
54:25
Kind
54:25
of.
54:26
Because
54:26
I
54:26
feel
54:26
like
54:27
there's
54:27
the
54:27
fear
54:27
of
54:28
doctors
54:29
not
54:29
listening
54:29
to
54:30
you
54:30
and
54:30
not
54:30
reacting.
54:31
But
54:31
then
54:31
there's
54:32
the
54:32
fear
54:32
of
54:32
the
54:32
doctors
54:33
that
54:33
are
54:34
overreacting
54:35
just
54:35
because
54:35
they
54:36
want
54:36
to
54:36
make
54:37
some
54:37
extra
54:37
money.
54:38
And
54:38
so
54:38
it's
54:38
kind
54:39
of
54:39
hard
54:39
to
54:39
know
54:41
where
54:41
you
54:41
fall.
54:42
Yeah.
54:43
And,
54:44
you
54:44
know,
54:44
I
54:44
don't
54:44
think
54:45
so
54:45
much
54:45
that
54:45
they're
54:46
trying
54:46
to
54:46
make
54:46
extra
54:47
money.
54:47
Some.
54:47
Some
54:48
doctors
54:49
overreact
54:50
out
54:50
of
54:50
inexperience.
54:53
Younger
54:53
doctors
54:54
are
54:54
likely
54:54
to
54:54
do
54:55
more
54:56
testing,
54:57
whereas
54:57
an
54:57
older
54:57
doctor
54:58
that's
54:58
got
54:58
a
54:58
lot
54:58
of
54:59
experience
54:59
is
54:59
going
54:59
to
55:00
be
55:00
targeted
55:00
right.
55:01
At
55:01
the
55:01
right
55:01
test.
55:02
And
55:02
we
55:03
kind
55:03
of
55:03
sense
55:04
when
55:04
something
55:05
is
55:05
wrong
55:07
that
55:07
we
55:07
can't
55:08
quite
55:08
figure
55:08
out.
55:08
But
55:08
we
55:09
know
55:09
that
55:09
there's
55:09
something
55:10
to
55:10
it.
55:10
And
55:11
maybe
55:11
that
55:11
person
55:11
is
55:12
stressed,
55:12
but
55:13
there's
55:13
usually
55:13
something
55:14
else
55:14
there
55:15
that's
55:16
driving
55:17
their
55:17
symptoms.
55:18
And
55:18
maybe
55:18
they're
55:18
anxious.
55:19
They're
55:19
an
55:19
anxious
55:20
personnel.
55:21
So
55:21
maybe
55:21
they're
55:21
really
55:22
anxious
55:22
because
55:22
they
55:23
have
55:23
a
55:23
symptom.
55:24
And
55:24
how
55:25
do
55:25
you
55:25
tease
55:25
that
55:25
out?
55:26
You
55:26
have
55:26
to
55:26
find
55:26
out
55:27
what's
55:27
causing
55:27
that
55:27
symptom,
55:28
and
55:28
you
55:28
have
55:28
to
55:29
be
55:29
sure
55:29
you're
55:29
not
55:29
missing
55:30
something.
55:30
That
55:31
just
55:31
reminded
55:31
me
55:32
that
55:32
you.
55:32
You
55:33
mentioned
55:33
that
55:33
you
55:33
used
55:34
your
55:34
intuition
55:34
a
55:35
lot
55:35
with
55:36
your
55:36
work
55:36
and
55:36
what
55:37
you
55:37
do,
55:37
and
55:38
that
55:38
you
55:38
used
55:39
your
55:39
intuition
55:39
and
55:40
listened
55:40
to
55:40
your
55:40
dog
55:41
one
55:41
time.
55:42
Yes.
55:42
Yes.
55:43
What
55:44
incredible
55:44
story.
55:46
Should
55:46
I
55:46
tell
55:47
that
55:47
story?
55:47
Yeah,
55:48
I
55:48
know
55:48
Melissa
55:49
would
55:49
want
55:49
to
55:49
hear
55:50
about
55:50
it.
55:51
When
55:51
you
55:51
said,
55:51
like,
55:52
you
55:52
know,
55:52
you
55:52
have
55:52
to.
55:53
You
55:53
have
55:53
this,
55:53
like,
55:53
knowing
55:54
with
55:54
your
55:54
experience,
55:54
I
55:55
was
55:55
like,
55:55
oh,
55:55
my
55:55
God,
55:56
I
55:56
forgot
55:56
about
55:56
that
55:56
story.
55:57
And
55:57
that's,
55:57
like,
55:57
that's
55:58
really
55:58
cool.
55:59
Yeah.
56:00
I
56:00
had
56:00
this
56:00
patient.
56:00
I
56:00
had
56:01
a
56:01
therapy
56:01
dog.
56:02
So
56:02
Prancer
56:03
is
56:03
a
56:03
golden
56:04
retriever,
56:05
and
56:06
she
56:06
started
56:06
coming
56:07
to
56:07
work
56:07
with
56:07
me
56:07
as
56:07
a
56:08
puppy
56:08
because
56:08
she
56:09
was
56:10
chewing
56:10
up
56:11
my
56:11
house,
56:11
and
56:11
she
56:11
had
56:11
separation
56:12
anxiety.
56:12
And
56:13
so
56:13
I
56:13
thought
56:13
I
56:14
could
56:14
just
56:14
put
56:14
her
56:14
in
56:14
my
56:15
office.
56:15
She
56:16
had
56:16
toys,
56:16
and
56:16
she
56:16
could
56:17
look
56:17
at
56:17
the
56:17
secret.
56:18
He'd
56:18
be
56:19
fine.
56:19
I
56:19
could
56:19
run
56:19
in
56:20
between
56:20
patients
56:20
and
56:21
take
56:21
her
56:21
out
56:21
every
56:21
chance
56:22
I
56:22
got.
56:23
And
56:23
then
56:23
I'm
56:24
doing
56:24
that
56:24
right
56:24
now
56:25
with
56:25
a
56:25
puppy.
56:25
He
56:25
comes
56:26
to
56:26
work
56:26
with
56:26
me
56:26
every
56:27
day
56:27
because
56:27
he's
56:27
so
56:28
much.
56:29
Yes.
56:29
Yes.
56:30
So
56:31
she
56:31
would
56:31
howl
56:32
when
56:32
I
56:32
wasn't
56:33
with
56:33
her
56:33
and
56:33
all
56:33
this.
56:34
And
56:34
patients
56:34
started
56:34
hearing,
56:35
what's
56:35
that?
56:36
What's
56:36
that?
56:37
Everybody
56:37
heard
56:38
I
56:38
had
56:38
a
56:38
golden
56:38
retriever
56:39
puppy.
56:39
Everybody
56:40
wanted
56:40
to
56:40
see
56:40
the
56:41
puppy.
56:41
So
56:41
I
56:41
thought,
56:42
how
56:42
am
56:42
I
56:42
going
56:43
to
56:43
stay
56:43
on
56:43
time?
56:44
Yeah,
56:44
everybody's
56:45
going
56:45
to
56:45
be
56:45
playing
56:45
with
56:45
the
56:45
puppy,
56:46
and
56:46
I'm
56:46
trying
56:46
to
56:46
get
56:46
an
56:47
exam
56:47
done.
56:48
So
56:49
sure
56:49
enough,
56:50
she.
56:50
She
56:50
sensed
56:51
it,
56:51
and
56:52
she
56:52
would.
56:52
Just
56:53
as
56:53
soon
56:53
as
56:53
I
56:53
started
56:54
talking
56:54
to
56:54
the
56:54
patient
56:55
and
56:56
getting
56:56
a
56:56
history,
56:56
she
56:57
quiet
56:57
right
56:57
down.
56:57
She
56:58
lay
56:58
right
56:58
by
56:58
their
56:59
feet
57:00
and
57:00
was
57:00
as
57:00
good
57:01
as
57:01
gold.
57:02
And
57:02
before
57:02
long,
57:03
I
57:03
couldn't
57:03
go
57:04
to
57:04
work
57:04
without
57:04
her
57:05
because
57:05
my
57:05
patients
57:06
wouldn't
57:07
come
57:07
in
57:07
if
57:08
she
57:08
wasn't
57:08
there.
57:08
They'd
57:09
call
57:09
me.
57:09
Wow.
57:10
Answered
57:10
there
57:10
today.
57:11
If
57:11
not,
57:11
I'm
57:11
rescheduling
57:12
my
57:12
appointment.
57:13
Oh,
57:14
wow.
57:15
I
57:15
took
57:15
her
57:15
and
57:16
got
57:16
her
57:16
tested
57:17
through
57:17
Pet
57:17
Partners,
57:18
because
57:18
you
57:18
have
57:18
to
57:18
get
57:19
official
57:19
testing,
57:20
and
57:21
it's
57:21
like
57:21
a
57:22
insurance
57:22
umbrella
57:23
where
57:23
they.
57:23
They
57:24
will
57:24
cover
57:25
your
57:25
dog
57:25
in
57:26
case
57:26
anything
57:26
happens,
57:27
and
57:27
they
57:27
have
57:27
to
57:27
have
57:27
the
57:27
right
57:27
temperament.
57:28
And.
57:29
And
57:30
we
57:30
got
57:30
all
57:30
the
57:30
testing
57:31
done,
57:31
so
57:31
I
57:31
could
57:31
actually
57:32
literally
57:32
Bring
57:32
her
57:32
in
57:32
the
57:33
hospital
57:33
with
57:33
me.
57:33
I
57:34
could
57:34
have
57:34
her
57:34
legally
57:35
in
57:35
my
57:35
office.
57:36
Yeah.
57:37
She'd
57:37
been
57:37
with
57:38
me
57:38
now,
57:38
working
57:38
with
57:39
me
57:39
for
57:40
10
57:40
years.
57:42
And
57:42
I
57:42
would
57:43
always.
57:43
She'd
57:43
always
57:43
gently
57:44
scratch
57:44
at
57:44
the
57:45
door
57:45
when
57:45
I
57:45
was
57:46
with
57:46
the
57:46
patient
57:46
to
57:47
ask
57:47
if
57:47
she
57:47
could
57:47
come
57:47
in.
57:48
Oh,
57:48
wow.
57:49
I
57:49
would
57:49
ask
57:49
the
57:49
patient,
57:50
and
57:50
95%
57:51
of
57:51
the
57:51
time
57:51
they
57:52
said,
57:52
yes,
57:52
let
57:52
her
57:52
in.
57:53
Every
57:53
once
57:53
in
57:53
a
57:53
while,
57:54
someone
57:54
wasn't
57:54
comfortable,
57:56
and
57:56
they'd
57:56
say,
57:56
no,
57:57
I
57:57
prefer
57:58
not.
57:58
And
57:58
then
57:59
if
57:59
I
57:59
didn't
57:59
answer
57:59
the
58:00
door,
58:00
she'd
58:00
just
58:00
lay
58:00
down
58:00
outside
58:01
the
58:01
door.
58:03
But
58:03
she
58:03
didn't
58:04
like
58:04
it
58:04
if
58:04
somebody
58:04
didn't
58:05
want
58:05
to
58:05
see
58:05
her.
58:05
Yeah,
58:06
I'd
58:06
walk
58:07
out
58:07
and
58:08
she'd
58:08
see
58:08
the
58:08
patient.
58:09
Then
58:09
she'd
58:09
get
58:09
up
58:09
and
58:09
walk
58:10
away.
58:11
She'd
58:11
be
58:11
like,
58:12
it
58:12
was
58:12
you.
58:14
You
58:14
didn't
58:14
want
58:14
to
58:14
see
58:15
me.
58:15
I'm
58:15
going
58:15
to
58:16
walk
58:16
away.
58:16
So
58:17
I
58:17
had
58:17
this
58:17
lovely
58:18
patient
58:18
one
58:18
day
58:21
from
58:21
Africa.
58:22
She
58:22
had
58:23
emigrated
58:24
here
58:24
from
58:24
Africa
58:25
about
58:25
a
58:25
year
58:25
or
58:26
two
58:26
earlier,
58:27
and
58:27
she
58:28
had
58:28
a
58:28
book
58:28
with
58:28
her
58:28
of
58:29
all
58:29
the
58:30
doctors
58:30
she'd
58:30
seen,
58:31
and
58:31
little
58:31
tabs.
58:32
And
58:32
these
58:32
are
58:32
the
58:33
rheumatology
58:33
evaluations,
58:34
these
58:34
are
58:34
the
58:34
orthopedic
58:35
evaluations,
58:36
These
58:36
are
58:37
the
58:38
rehab
58:39
evaluations.
58:39
And
58:39
I've
58:40
seen
58:40
all
58:40
these
58:40
doctors.
58:41
Nobody
58:41
can
58:41
figure
58:41
out
58:41
what's
58:42
wrong
58:42
with
58:42
them.
58:43
And
58:43
she
58:44
said,
58:44
you're
58:44
the
58:44
last
58:45
stop
58:45
before
58:46
I
58:46
go
58:46
to
58:46
psychiatry.
58:48
She
58:48
said,
58:48
and
58:49
she's
58:49
very
58:49
intelligent.
58:50
And
58:50
she
58:51
said,
58:51
I
58:52
had
58:52
a
58:52
lot
58:52
of
58:53
sexual
58:53
trauma
58:54
growing
58:54
up
58:54
in
58:55
Africa,
58:56
and
58:56
I
58:57
know
58:57
that
58:57
I
58:57
can
58:58
put
58:58
that
58:58
into
58:58
my
58:58
body
58:59
and
58:59
that
59:00
that
59:00
could
59:00
be
59:00
what's
59:01
wrong,
59:01
but
59:02
I
59:02
just
59:03
feel
59:03
like
59:05
somebody's
59:06
missing
59:06
something
59:06
and
59:06
I
59:06
don't
59:07
know
59:07
her
59:07
gut.
59:08
Yeah.
59:10
So
59:10
I
59:10
spent
59:10
an
59:10
hour
59:10
with
59:11
her,
59:11
and
59:11
I
59:11
went
59:11
through
59:11
all
59:12
the
59:12
tests,
59:12
and
59:12
there
59:13
wasn't
59:13
anything
59:13
neurologic,
59:14
really.
59:15
Normal
59:16
exam.
59:16
She'd
59:16
had
59:16
MRIs
59:17
of
59:17
her
59:17
brain,
59:18
spinal
59:18
cord,
59:18
everything.
59:19
And
59:19
I
59:19
went
59:20
through
59:20
everything
59:20
very
59:20
carefully,
59:21
and
59:21
I
59:21
said,
59:21
you
59:21
know,
59:21
I'm
59:22
really
59:22
sorry.
59:22
I
59:22
wish
59:24
I
59:24
could
59:24
be
59:24
more
59:24
helpful
59:25
here,
59:25
but
59:25
I
59:26
think
59:26
maybe
59:27
you
59:27
should
59:27
go
59:27
at
59:27
this
59:28
point
59:28
to
59:28
psychiatry.
59:29
You've
59:29
identified
59:30
something
59:30
else.
59:30
And
59:30
I
59:31
think
59:31
all
59:31
the
59:31
testing
59:32
really
59:32
is
59:32
complete.
59:34
And
59:34
so
59:35
she
59:35
hadn't
59:36
wanted
59:36
Prancer
59:36
in
59:37
there,
59:37
and
59:37
she
59:37
was
59:38
very,
59:38
very
59:38
nice.
59:38
And
59:38
she
59:39
was
59:39
leaving.
59:40
As
59:40
she
59:40
walked
59:40
out
59:41
the
59:41
door
59:42
and
59:42
saw
59:42
this
59:43
dog,
59:43
she
59:43
said,
59:44
oh,
59:44
my,
59:45
she's
59:45
so
59:45
beautiful.
59:46
I'm
59:46
so
59:46
sorry
59:47
I
59:47
didn't
59:47
let
59:47
her
59:47
in.
59:48
And
59:48
I
59:48
pet
59:49
her,
59:49
and
59:49
I'm
59:50
thinking,
59:50
oh,
59:50
no,
59:50
Prancer's
59:51
gonna
59:51
just
59:51
run
59:51
away.
59:52
Answer.
59:53
Let
59:53
her
59:53
pet
59:53
him.
59:54
Pet
59:54
her.
59:55
And
59:56
then
59:56
she.
59:56
We
59:56
said
59:56
goodbye,
59:57
and
59:57
she
59:57
went
59:57
out
59:57
to
59:57
the
59:58
room,
59:58
waiting
59:59
room,
59:59
to
59:59
sit
1:00:00
there
1:00:00
with
1:00:00
the
1:00:02
patient
1:00:03
coordinator
1:00:03
and,
1:00:03
you
1:00:04
know,
1:00:04
finish
1:00:04
up,
1:00:05
and
1:00:05
Prancer
1:00:06
just
1:00:07
followed
1:00:08
her
1:00:08
out.
1:00:08
And
1:00:09
I
1:00:09
tried
1:00:09
to
1:00:10
call
1:00:10
her
1:00:10
back
1:00:10
and
1:00:10
get
1:00:10
her
1:00:10
back
1:00:11
in,
1:00:11
and
1:00:11
she
1:00:11
wouldn't
1:00:11
come.
1:00:11
Wouldn't
1:00:12
come
1:00:12
to
1:00:12
me.
1:00:13
She
1:00:13
went
1:00:13
underneath
1:00:13
this
1:00:14
woman's
1:00:14
chair
1:00:15
and
1:00:15
did
1:00:15
not
1:00:16
leave.
1:00:16
This
1:00:16
woman.
1:00:17
No
1:00:17
way.
1:00:18
She
1:00:18
said,
1:00:18
you
1:00:19
have
1:00:19
to
1:00:19
do
1:00:19
something
1:00:19
for
1:00:20
her.
1:00:21
Something
1:00:21
for
1:00:21
her.
1:00:23
And
1:00:23
I
1:00:23
have
1:00:23
lots
1:00:23
of
1:00:24
stories
1:00:24
about.
1:00:24
This
1:00:24
is
1:00:25
just
1:00:25
one.
1:00:26
So
1:00:26
I
1:00:26
knew
1:00:26
Prancer.
1:00:28
Well.
1:00:28
Prancer
1:00:29
senses
1:00:29
something.
1:00:30
I
1:00:30
don't.
1:00:32
So
1:00:32
I
1:00:32
went
1:00:32
out
1:00:33
and
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
said,
1:00:33
you
1:00:33
know,
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
changed
1:00:34
my
1:00:34
mind.
1:00:35
I
1:00:35
said,
1:00:35
you
1:00:35
saw
1:00:35
a
1:00:36
rheumatologist
1:00:37
six
1:00:37
months
1:00:37
ago.
1:00:37
And
1:00:37
I
1:00:38
said,
1:00:38
why
1:00:38
don't
1:00:39
we
1:00:39
do
1:00:39
some
1:00:39
of
1:00:39
that
1:00:39
blood
1:00:40
work
1:00:40
again?
1:00:40
Because
1:00:40
maybe,
1:00:41
you
1:00:41
know,
1:00:42
you
1:00:42
weren't
1:00:42
in
1:00:42
a
1:00:43
flare
1:00:43
then,
1:00:43
and
1:00:43
you're
1:00:43
in
1:00:44
a
1:00:44
flare
1:00:44
now.
1:00:44
Maybe
1:00:44
we'll
1:00:45
pick
1:00:45
something
1:00:45
up.
1:00:46
Oh.
1:00:47
So
1:00:47
I
1:00:47
just
1:00:47
repeated
1:00:49
the
1:00:49
studies,
1:00:50
all
1:00:50
the
1:00:50
blood
1:00:50
tests
1:00:50
the
1:00:51
rheumatologist
1:00:51
did,
1:00:52
and
1:00:52
it
1:00:52
came
1:00:52
back.
1:00:53
She
1:00:53
had
1:00:53
florid
1:00:54
lupus.
1:00:56
And
1:00:56
when
1:00:56
she
1:00:56
had
1:00:57
the
1:00:57
saw,
1:00:57
the
1:00:57
rheumatologist,
1:00:58
she
1:00:58
just
1:00:58
was
1:00:58
in
1:00:59
remission,
1:00:59
so.
1:01:00
Whoa.
1:01:01
And
1:01:02
that
1:01:02
dog
1:01:02
knew.
1:01:04
Told
1:01:04
the
1:01:04
woman.
1:01:04
The
1:01:05
dog
1:01:05
diagnosed
1:01:05
her.
1:01:06
And
1:01:06
you
1:01:06
never
1:01:06
did?
1:01:08
Because
1:01:09
I
1:01:09
didn't.
1:01:09
Because
1:01:10
it
1:01:10
wasn't.
1:01:10
It
1:01:10
wasn't
1:01:11
neurologic.
1:01:11
But
1:01:11
I
1:01:11
called
1:01:12
her.
1:01:12
I
1:01:12
said,
1:01:12
we're
1:01:12
getting
1:01:12
you
1:01:12
right
1:01:13
back
1:01:13
to
1:01:13
the
1:01:13
rheumatologist.
1:01:14
You've
1:01:14
got
1:01:14
something.
1:01:15
Wow.
1:01:16
All
1:01:16
these
1:01:17
symptoms.
1:01:18
And
1:01:18
so
1:01:19
that
1:01:19
was.
1:01:19
That
1:01:19
was
1:01:20
my
1:01:20
dog.
1:01:20
And
1:01:21
she.
1:01:21
What
1:01:21
a
1:01:21
good
1:01:22
girl.
1:01:23
I
1:01:23
know.
1:01:23
But
1:01:24
that's
1:01:24
still.
1:01:24
You
1:01:24
can
1:01:25
take
1:01:25
credit
1:01:25
for,
1:01:25
because
1:01:25
it's
1:01:26
still.
1:01:26
You're
1:01:26
like,
1:01:26
oh,
1:01:27
I
1:01:27
should
1:01:27
listen
1:01:27
to
1:01:28
the
1:01:28
dog.
1:01:29
It's
1:01:29
true.
1:01:29
It
1:01:30
was
1:01:30
your
1:01:30
intuition
1:01:31
as
1:01:31
well.
1:01:31
You're
1:01:31
like,
1:01:32
no,
1:01:32
I
1:01:32
need
1:01:32
to
1:01:32
listen
1:01:33
to
1:01:33
this.
1:01:33
Like,
1:01:33
you
1:01:34
aren't
1:01:34
too.
1:01:36
I
1:01:36
don't
1:01:36
know,
1:01:37
too
1:01:37
prideful,
1:01:37
I
1:01:37
guess,
1:01:38
to
1:01:38
hear.
1:01:39
Hear
1:01:39
the
1:01:39
small
1:01:40
people.
1:01:41
Yes.
1:01:41
Yes.
1:01:42
And
1:01:42
I
1:01:42
was
1:01:42
so,
1:01:42
you
1:01:43
know,
1:01:43
so
1:01:43
glad
1:01:43
that
1:01:43
I
1:01:43
did
1:01:46
another
1:01:46
story.
1:01:47
She
1:01:47
was
1:01:48
less
1:01:48
Prancer
1:01:49
story.
1:01:49
No,
1:01:49
I
1:01:50
love
1:01:50
them.
1:01:51
She.
1:01:51
I
1:01:52
was
1:01:52
seeing
1:01:52
this
1:01:52
young
1:01:52
man
1:01:53
one
1:01:53
day
1:01:54
who
1:01:54
was
1:01:54
quadriplegic
1:01:55
from
1:01:56
his
1:01:56
neck
1:01:56
down
1:01:56
from
1:01:56
a
1:01:57
motorcycle
1:01:57
accident,
1:01:58
and
1:01:58
there's
1:01:58
nothing
1:01:59
I
1:01:59
can
1:01:59
do.
1:02:01
And
1:02:01
his
1:02:02
family,
1:02:02
whole
1:02:03
family
1:02:03
was
1:02:03
there,
1:02:04
and
1:02:04
they
1:02:04
were
1:02:04
bringing
1:02:05
him
1:02:05
to
1:02:05
yet
1:02:05
another
1:02:06
doctor.
1:02:06
Is
1:02:06
there
1:02:06
anything
1:02:07
you
1:02:07
can
1:02:07
do
1:02:07
for
1:02:07
us?
1:02:08
They
1:02:09
knew
1:02:09
I
1:02:09
couldn't
1:02:09
make
1:02:09
them
1:02:09
walk
1:02:10
again.
1:02:10
But,
1:02:11
you
1:02:11
know,
1:02:11
you.
1:02:11
You
1:02:12
deal
1:02:12
with
1:02:12
their
1:02:12
bowel
1:02:13
and
1:02:13
bladder
1:02:13
issues
1:02:14
and
1:02:14
depression
1:02:15
and
1:02:15
make
1:02:15
sure
1:02:16
they
1:02:16
have
1:02:16
all
1:02:16
the
1:02:16
social
1:02:16
services
1:02:17
they
1:02:17
need,
1:02:17
and
1:02:18
it's.
1:02:18
It's
1:02:18
all
1:02:18
very
1:02:19
sad.
1:02:20
Yeah.
1:02:20
And
1:02:21
that
1:02:21
day,
1:02:22
I
1:02:23
hadn't
1:02:23
closed
1:02:24
the
1:02:24
door
1:02:24
to
1:02:24
the
1:02:25
exam
1:02:25
room
1:02:25
because
1:02:25
there
1:02:26
was
1:02:26
all
1:02:26
these
1:02:26
people
1:02:26
in
1:02:27
there,
1:02:27
and
1:02:27
it
1:02:27
was
1:02:27
a
1:02:27
little
1:02:27
Claudic.
1:02:28
And
1:02:29
this
1:02:29
young
1:02:29
man
1:02:29
was
1:02:29
sitting
1:02:30
in
1:02:30
the
1:02:30
middle
1:02:30
of
1:02:30
the
1:02:30
room
1:02:31
in
1:02:31
this
1:02:31
wheelchair,
1:02:33
and
1:02:33
I'd
1:02:34
forgotten
1:02:34
to
1:02:34
tell
1:02:34
them
1:02:34
there
1:02:35
was
1:02:35
a
1:02:35
therapy
1:02:35
dog
1:02:35
on
1:02:35
premises.
1:02:37
So
1:02:37
all
1:02:37
of
1:02:37
a
1:02:37
sudden,
1:02:38
this
1:02:38
young
1:02:38
man
1:02:38
looks
1:02:38
past
1:02:39
me,
1:02:40
and
1:02:42
I
1:02:42
look
1:02:42
and
1:02:42
I
1:02:42
see
1:02:42
Prancer.
1:02:43
I
1:02:43
go,
1:02:43
oh,
1:02:43
I'm
1:02:44
so
1:02:44
sorry.
1:02:44
I
1:02:44
forgot
1:02:45
to
1:02:45
tell
1:02:45
you.
1:02:46
And
1:02:46
he.
1:02:46
He
1:02:47
just
1:02:47
stopped
1:02:47
me,
1:02:48
said,
1:02:49
I
1:02:49
love
1:02:49
dogs
1:02:50
so
1:02:50
much,
1:02:51
I
1:02:51
would
1:02:51
give
1:02:51
anything
1:02:52
if
1:02:52
I
1:02:52
could
1:02:52
just
1:02:53
pet
1:02:53
that
1:02:53
dog.
1:02:55
And
1:02:55
with
1:02:55
that,
1:02:56
I
1:02:57
didn't
1:02:57
say
1:02:57
anything.
1:02:59
Prancer
1:02:59
just
1:03:00
locked
1:03:00
eyes
1:03:00
with
1:03:00
him.
1:03:01
She
1:03:01
got
1:03:01
up
1:03:02
and
1:03:02
she
1:03:02
slowly
1:03:03
walked
1:03:03
over
1:03:03
to
1:03:04
him,
1:03:04
sat
1:03:05
down
1:03:05
next
1:03:05
to
1:03:05
his
1:03:06
wheelchair,
1:03:06
put
1:03:07
her
1:03:07
muzzle
1:03:07
right
1:03:08
on
1:03:08
his
1:03:08
hands,
1:03:10
ate
1:03:10
there
1:03:10
for
1:03:11
the
1:03:11
entire
1:03:11
hour.
1:03:12
That's
1:03:13
beautiful.
1:03:14
Everybody
1:03:14
in
1:03:15
that
1:03:15
room
1:03:15
was
1:03:15
in
1:03:15
tears.
1:03:16
He
1:03:17
was
1:03:17
in
1:03:17
tears,
1:03:17
I
1:03:18
was
1:03:18
in
1:03:18
tears,
1:03:19
and
1:03:19
that
1:03:19
dog
1:03:20
just
1:03:20
didn't
1:03:20
leave
1:03:20
him.
1:03:21
Oh,
1:03:22
gosh.
1:03:24
So.
1:03:25
The
1:03:25
power
1:03:25
of
1:03:25
animals.
1:03:26
I
1:03:26
really,
1:03:27
really
1:03:27
believe
1:03:28
it.
1:03:28
Yeah,
1:03:29
I
1:03:29
do,
1:03:30
too.
1:03:30
I
1:03:30
do,
1:03:31
too.
1:03:31
Yeah.
1:03:32
That's
1:03:32
why
1:03:32
I'm
1:03:32
so
1:03:32
excited
1:03:33
with
1:03:33
what
1:03:33
we're
1:03:33
doing
1:03:34
this
1:03:34
year,
1:03:34
Melissa.
1:03:35
Yeah,
1:03:36
I
1:03:36
am,
1:03:36
too.
1:03:38
For
1:03:38
people
1:03:38
and
1:03:38
provide
1:03:39
for.
1:03:39
Did
1:03:40
you
1:03:40
tell
1:03:40
Carolyn
1:03:40
about
1:03:41
Dr.
1:03:41
Taylor?
1:03:42
About
1:03:42
that?
1:03:43
I
1:03:43
think
1:03:43
we
1:03:43
talked
1:03:43
about.
1:03:43
It's
1:03:45
a
1:03:45
wonderful,
1:03:45
wonderful
1:03:46
idea.
1:03:46
Yeah.
1:03:47
Thank
1:03:47
you.
1:03:48
Well,
1:03:48
it
1:03:48
was
1:03:48
Sam's.
1:03:50
It
1:03:51
skirts
1:03:51
up.
1:03:53
I
1:03:53
have,
1:03:53
like,
1:03:53
a.
1:03:54
I
1:03:54
don't
1:03:54
know
1:03:54
if
1:03:54
you
1:03:54
want
1:03:54
it
1:03:54
to
1:03:55
be
1:03:55
the
1:03:55
closing
1:03:55
question
1:03:55
or
1:03:56
not,
1:03:56
but
1:03:56
I
1:03:56
have,
1:03:56
like,
1:03:57
one
1:03:57
final,
1:03:58
like,
1:03:58
real
1:03:58
burning
1:03:59
question.
1:04:01
How
1:04:02
do
1:04:02
we
1:04:04
source
1:04:04
out
1:04:05
a
1:04:05
doctor?
1:04:06
Because
1:04:06
you
1:04:06
talked
1:04:06
about,
1:04:07
you
1:04:07
know,
1:04:07
there's
1:04:07
some
1:04:07
doctors
1:04:08
that
1:04:08
are
1:04:08
inexperienced.
1:04:08
There's
1:04:09
some
1:04:09
who
1:04:09
have
1:04:09
been
1:04:10
doing
1:04:10
tests
1:04:10
for
1:04:10
years,
1:04:10
and
1:04:11
they're
1:04:11
more
1:04:11
tuned
1:04:11
in.
1:04:12
But
1:04:12
I
1:04:12
also
1:04:13
feel
1:04:13
like
1:04:13
there's
1:04:13
some
1:04:13
who've
1:04:13
been
1:04:14
doing
1:04:14
tests
1:04:14
a
1:04:14
year
1:04:14
that
1:04:15
are
1:04:15
jaded.
1:04:16
How
1:04:16
do
1:04:16
you
1:04:17
just
1:04:17
find
1:04:17
the
1:04:18
doctor?
1:04:18
How
1:04:18
do
1:04:18
you
1:04:18
know?
1:04:19
What
1:04:19
are
1:04:19
the
1:04:19
things
1:04:19
to
1:04:20
look
1:04:20
for
1:04:20
in
1:04:20
a
1:04:20
doctor?
1:04:21
To
1:04:21
think,
1:04:21
all
1:04:22
right,
1:04:22
this
1:04:22
one's
1:04:22
going
1:04:23
to
1:04:23
work
1:04:23
for
1:04:23
me.
1:04:24
Or
1:04:24
is
1:04:24
there
1:04:24
just
1:04:25
no
1:04:25
way
1:04:25
to
1:04:25
know?
1:04:25
And
1:04:26
that's
1:04:26
why
1:04:26
we
1:04:26
have
1:04:27
to
1:04:27
be
1:04:27
able
1:04:27
to
1:04:28
advocate
1:04:29
for
1:04:29
ourselves.
1:04:30
Well,
1:04:31
you
1:04:31
want
1:04:31
to
1:04:31
feel
1:04:31
like
1:04:32
you're
1:04:32
being
1:04:32
listened
1:04:32
to,
1:04:33
okay?
1:04:34
Very,
1:04:34
very
1:04:34
important.
1:04:35
If
1:04:35
you
1:04:35
don't
1:04:35
feel
1:04:35
like
1:04:36
you're
1:04:36
being
1:04:36
listened
1:04:36
to,
1:04:37
if
1:04:37
they're
1:04:37
typing
1:04:38
away
1:04:39
and
1:04:39
not
1:04:40
asking
1:04:40
you
1:04:40
any
1:04:40
questions
1:04:42
or
1:04:42
not
1:04:43
letting
1:04:43
you
1:04:43
get
1:04:43
it
1:04:43
all
1:04:44
out,
1:04:45
then
1:04:45
that's
1:04:45
a
1:04:46
bad
1:04:46
sign.
1:04:46
So
1:04:46
you
1:04:46
want
1:04:47
to
1:04:47
feel
1:04:47
like
1:04:47
you're
1:04:47
listened
1:04:48
to.
1:04:49
You
1:04:49
want
1:04:49
to
1:04:50
feel
1:04:50
like
1:04:51
they
1:04:51
validate
1:04:52
you,
1:04:53
that
1:04:53
they
1:04:54
not
1:04:54
only
1:04:54
hear
1:04:55
you,
1:04:55
but
1:04:55
they're
1:04:56
present
1:04:57
and
1:04:57
they
1:04:58
seem
1:04:58
to
1:04:58
understand
1:04:59
how
1:04:59
you
1:04:59
feel.
1:05:00
Okay.
1:05:01
You
1:05:02
don't
1:05:02
want
1:05:02
to
1:05:02
be
1:05:02
dismissed
1:05:03
at
1:05:03
all
1:05:03
you
1:05:04
don't
1:05:04
want
1:05:04
to
1:05:04
say,
1:05:04
well,
1:05:05
this
1:05:05
really
1:05:05
isn't
1:05:06
that
1:05:06
serious
1:05:06
of
1:05:06
a
1:05:07
thing.
1:05:07
To
1:05:07
you.
1:05:07
It's
1:05:08
serious
1:05:09
if
1:05:09
you're
1:05:09
feeling
1:05:09
some
1:05:10
symptom,
1:05:10
you're
1:05:10
feeling
1:05:11
pain
1:05:11
or
1:05:11
you're
1:05:12
feeling
1:05:12
weakness
1:05:12
or.
1:05:13
Or
1:05:14
twitching
1:05:14
or
1:05:15
something.
1:05:15
To
1:05:15
you,
1:05:15
it's
1:05:16
very
1:05:16
serious.
1:05:17
You
1:05:17
want
1:05:17
to
1:05:17
feel
1:05:17
validated.
1:05:18
You
1:05:18
want
1:05:18
to
1:05:18
feel
1:05:18
listened
1:05:19
to.
1:05:20
It's
1:05:20
very,
1:05:20
very
1:05:21
important
1:05:21
that
1:05:21
they
1:05:22
examine
1:05:22
you
1:05:23
so
1:05:23
often.
1:05:25
You
1:05:25
will.
1:05:25
They'll
1:05:26
won't
1:05:26
even
1:05:26
put
1:05:26
a
1:05:26
stethoscope
1:05:27
to
1:05:27
your
1:05:27
chest
1:05:28
or
1:05:28
they'll
1:05:29
er.
1:05:30
And
1:05:30
they'll
1:05:30
just
1:05:30
maybe
1:05:30
listen
1:05:31
to
1:05:31
you
1:05:31
through
1:05:31
a
1:05:31
gown.
1:05:32
And,
1:05:33
you
1:05:33
know,
1:05:33
you
1:05:33
can't
1:05:34
really
1:05:34
hear
1:05:34
that
1:05:34
well
1:05:35
if
1:05:35
you
1:05:35
dealt
1:05:35
with
1:05:35
this
1:05:35
stethoscope
1:05:36
to
1:05:36
the
1:05:36
skin.
1:05:37
Oh,
1:05:37
interesting.
1:05:38
Yeah.
1:05:39
You
1:05:39
want
1:05:39
to
1:05:39
be.
1:05:39
If
1:05:40
you.
1:05:40
They
1:05:40
didn't
1:05:40
even
1:05:40
examine
1:05:41
you,
1:05:42
or
1:05:42
they
1:05:43
just
1:05:43
didn't
1:05:43
examine
1:05:44
you
1:05:44
and
1:05:44
they
1:05:45
just
1:05:45
ordered
1:05:45
some
1:05:46
tests
1:05:46
and
1:05:47
said,
1:05:47
oh,
1:05:47
well,
1:05:47
we'll
1:05:48
call
1:05:48
you
1:05:48
and
1:05:48
let
1:05:49
you
1:05:49
know.
1:05:49
That
1:05:49
has
1:05:49
happened
1:05:50
so
1:05:50
many
1:05:50
times
1:05:50
to
1:05:50
me.
1:05:51
Yeah.
1:05:52
Interesting.
1:05:53
Very.
1:05:53
It's
1:05:53
very
1:05:54
important.
1:05:54
And
1:05:54
if
1:05:55
you
1:05:55
just
1:05:55
don't
1:05:55
feel
1:05:57
like
1:05:57
their
1:05:58
answer
1:05:58
made
1:05:58
sense
1:05:59
or
1:05:59
you
1:05:59
don't
1:06:00
feel
1:06:00
like
1:06:00
you
1:06:00
were
1:06:00
listen
1:06:01
to
1:06:02
or
1:06:02
they
1:06:03
told
1:06:03
you
1:06:04
it's
1:06:04
just
1:06:04
stress
1:06:05
without
1:06:06
examining
1:06:06
you
1:06:07
or
1:06:07
explaining
1:06:08
to
1:06:08
you
1:06:08
why
1:06:09
you
1:06:09
have
1:06:09
symptoms.
1:06:10
If
1:06:10
I
1:06:10
get
1:06:11
to
1:06:11
that
1:06:11
point
1:06:11
with
1:06:11
a
1:06:11
person,
1:06:12
I
1:06:12
usually
1:06:13
try
1:06:13
to
1:06:13
say,
1:06:14
you
1:06:14
know,
1:06:15
the
1:06:15
twitching
1:06:15
of
1:06:16
your
1:06:16
muscles
1:06:16
or
1:06:16
the
1:06:17
tingling
1:06:18
you're
1:06:18
feeling
1:06:18
is
1:06:19
because
1:06:19
your
1:06:19
muscles
1:06:20
are
1:06:20
tightening.
1:06:20
And
1:06:20
that
1:06:20
might
1:06:21
be
1:06:21
tightening
1:06:21
because
1:06:21
you're
1:06:22
stressed,
1:06:22
but
1:06:23
validate
1:06:23
their
1:06:24
symptoms
1:06:24
because
1:06:24
your
1:06:24
symptoms
1:06:25
are
1:06:25
almost
1:06:26
always
1:06:26
real.
1:06:27
Okay,
1:06:29
listen
1:06:29
to.
1:06:30
In
1:06:30
my
1:06:30
case,
1:06:31
I
1:06:32
just
1:06:32
knew.
1:06:33
I
1:06:33
knew
1:06:33
something
1:06:34
was
1:06:34
wrong.
1:06:35
And
1:06:35
when
1:06:35
someone
1:06:35
turns
1:06:36
to
1:06:36
me,
1:06:36
especially
1:06:36
a
1:06:37
woman,
1:06:37
to
1:06:37
a
1:06:37
woman,
1:06:37
because
1:06:38
a
1:06:38
woman
1:06:38
should
1:06:39
understand
1:06:41
stressed.
1:06:41
Well,
1:06:42
stress
1:06:42
doesn't
1:06:43
necessarily
1:06:43
cause
1:06:44
bleeding.
1:06:44
And
1:06:44
I
1:06:44
knew.
1:06:45
Right.
1:06:45
Much
1:06:46
more
1:06:46
stressed
1:06:46
in
1:06:46
my
1:06:47
life
1:06:47
than
1:06:47
I
1:06:47
had
1:06:47
been
1:06:47
then.
1:06:48
I
1:06:48
knew
1:06:48
in
1:06:48
my
1:06:49
gut
1:06:49
something
1:06:49
was
1:06:49
wrong.
1:06:50
Yeah.
1:06:51
And
1:06:51
so
1:06:52
you,
1:06:52
you
1:06:53
don't
1:06:53
have
1:06:53
to
1:06:53
necessarily
1:06:54
call
1:06:54
your
1:06:54
doctor
1:06:55
out.
1:06:55
They
1:06:55
might
1:06:55
be
1:06:56
rushed,
1:06:57
they
1:06:57
might
1:06:57
be
1:06:57
frustrated
1:06:58
because
1:06:58
they
1:06:58
don't
1:06:58
really
1:06:58
know
1:06:58
what
1:06:59
to
1:06:59
do.
1:07:00
You
1:07:01
get
1:07:01
a
1:07:01
second
1:07:01
opinion.
1:07:03
Yeah.
1:07:03
And
1:07:03
you
1:07:04
don't
1:07:04
have
1:07:04
to
1:07:04
be
1:07:04
afraid
1:07:05
of
1:07:05
offending
1:07:06
anybody
1:07:07
because
1:07:07
it's.
1:07:07
This
1:07:08
is
1:07:08
your
1:07:08
life
1:07:08
and
1:07:08
your
1:07:09
body.
1:07:10
And
1:07:10
a
1:07:10
doctor
1:07:10
should
1:07:10
never
1:07:11
be
1:07:11
offended.
1:07:11
You
1:07:11
get
1:07:12
a
1:07:12
second
1:07:12
opinion.
1:07:12
I'm
1:07:13
glad
1:07:13
you
1:07:13
said
1:07:13
that.
1:07:14
Someone
1:07:14
says
1:07:15
that
1:07:15
to
1:07:15
me,
1:07:15
I'd
1:07:16
say,
1:07:16
well,
1:07:16
you
1:07:16
know,
1:07:16
I
1:07:17
think
1:07:17
that's
1:07:17
a
1:07:17
good
1:07:17
idea
1:07:18
because
1:07:18
I'm
1:07:18
not
1:07:19
finding
1:07:19
exactly
1:07:20
what
1:07:20
it
1:07:20
is.
1:07:21
And
1:07:22
someone
1:07:22
else
1:07:22
might
1:07:22
have
1:07:22
different
1:07:23
experience
1:07:23
than
1:07:24
I
1:07:24
do,
1:07:24
and
1:07:24
they
1:07:24
might
1:07:24
have
1:07:25
seen
1:07:25
this
1:07:25
before.
1:07:26
So
1:07:26
I
1:07:26
welcome
1:07:26
a
1:07:27
second
1:07:27
opinion.
1:07:27
Okay.
1:07:28
Heads.
1:07:29
And
1:07:29
the
1:07:29
more
1:07:30
brain
1:07:30
power
1:07:30
you
1:07:31
put
1:07:31
into
1:07:31
a
1:07:31
problem,
1:07:31
the
1:07:32
more
1:07:32
Likely
1:07:32
you
1:07:32
are
1:07:32
to
1:07:32
solve
1:07:33
it.
1:07:33
So
1:07:34
it
1:07:34
shouldn't
1:07:34
be
1:07:34
insecure.
1:07:35
They
1:07:35
should
1:07:36
welcome
1:07:36
that.
1:07:36
Or
1:07:37
they
1:07:37
should
1:07:37
say
1:07:37
to
1:07:37
them,
1:07:38
to
1:07:38
you,
1:07:38
you
1:07:39
know,
1:07:39
I,
1:07:39
I
1:07:39
just
1:07:40
not
1:07:40
sure
1:07:41
I
1:07:41
want
1:07:41
to
1:07:41
present
1:07:42
this
1:07:42
at
1:07:42
the
1:07:42
next
1:07:43
conference.
1:07:43
Oh,
1:07:44
yeah.
1:07:44
Or
1:07:45
I
1:07:45
have
1:07:45
a
1:07:45
colleague
1:07:46
that
1:07:46
might
1:07:46
have
1:07:46
more
1:07:47
experience.
1:07:47
Or.
1:07:48
Yeah,
1:07:48
I'm
1:07:48
going
1:07:49
to
1:07:49
give
1:07:49
them
1:07:49
a
1:07:49
call
1:07:50
and
1:07:51
see
1:07:51
if
1:07:51
they
1:07:51
would
1:07:51
suggest
1:07:52
doing
1:07:52
an
1:07:52
additional
1:07:53
test.
1:07:53
And
1:07:53
I'll
1:07:53
get
1:07:53
back
1:07:53
to
1:07:54
you.
1:07:54
You
1:07:55
want
1:07:55
to
1:07:55
feel
1:07:55
like.
1:07:56
And
1:07:56
at
1:07:56
the
1:07:57
end
1:07:57
of
1:07:57
an
1:07:57
exam
1:07:58
or
1:07:58
patient
1:07:58
has
1:07:58
a
1:07:59
problem,
1:07:59
I
1:07:59
always
1:07:59
say,
1:08:00
do
1:08:00
you
1:08:00
have
1:08:00
any
1:08:01
other
1:08:01
concerns
1:08:02
or
1:08:02
do
1:08:02
you
1:08:03
feel
1:08:03
like.
1:08:03
I
1:08:03
answered
1:08:03
all
1:08:03
your
1:08:04
questions
1:08:04
and
1:08:04
if
1:08:05
they
1:08:05
have
1:08:05
concerns,
1:08:06
they
1:08:06
don't
1:08:06
feel
1:08:06
like
1:08:06
their
1:08:07
questions
1:08:07
were
1:08:07
answered
1:08:08
or
1:08:08
they
1:08:08
feel
1:08:09
like
1:08:09
they're
1:08:09
dismissed.
1:08:10
That
1:08:10
makes
1:08:11
me
1:08:11
feel
1:08:11
bad.
1:08:11
I
1:08:11
want
1:08:12
to
1:08:12
make
1:08:12
sure
1:08:13
that
1:08:13
I've
1:08:13
answered
1:08:14
all
1:08:14
their
1:08:14
concerns
1:08:14
because
1:08:14
that's
1:08:15
what
1:08:15
they
1:08:15
came
1:08:15
to
1:08:15
me
1:08:15
for.
1:08:16
And
1:08:16
you
1:08:16
do
1:08:17
actually
1:08:17
care.
1:08:17
And
1:08:18
so
1:08:18
I
1:08:18
think
1:08:18
you're
1:08:19
saying,
1:08:19
just
1:08:19
listen
1:08:20
to
1:08:20
yourself
1:08:20
when,
1:08:21
you
1:08:21
know,
1:08:21
when
1:08:21
you're
1:08:21
being
1:08:21
heard
1:08:22
or
1:08:22
being
1:08:22
dismissed.
1:08:24
Exactly.
1:08:24
You
1:08:25
do.
1:08:25
And
1:08:26
women
1:08:26
get
1:08:26
that
1:08:27
so
1:08:27
often
1:08:27
that
1:08:28
I
1:08:28
think
1:08:28
we're
1:08:29
afraid
1:08:29
to
1:08:32
challenge
1:08:32
them.
1:08:32
We're
1:08:32
afraid
1:08:33
to
1:08:33
challenge
1:08:34
to,
1:08:35
you
1:08:35
know,
1:08:36
because
1:08:36
women
1:08:36
are
1:08:37
at
1:08:37
that.
1:08:38
Hysterical.
1:08:40
Yes.
1:08:41
Yeah.
1:08:44
Stereotype.
1:08:45
Yes,
1:08:46
Stereotype.
1:08:47
You
1:08:47
know,
1:08:47
you're
1:08:47
just
1:08:47
being
1:08:48
a
1:08:48
hysterical
1:08:48
woman
1:08:49
and
1:08:49
you're
1:08:49
just
1:08:49
being
1:08:50
too
1:08:50
anxious.
1:08:52
By
1:08:52
small.
1:08:55
To
1:08:55
the
1:08:56
mic,
1:08:57
my.
1:08:58
My
1:08:58
son
1:08:58
did
1:08:58
that
1:08:58
with
1:08:59
his
1:08:59
girlfriend
1:08:59
and
1:09:00
he
1:09:00
was
1:09:00
saying,
1:09:00
oh,
1:09:01
she's
1:09:01
just
1:09:01
anxious.
1:09:01
She,
1:09:02
you
1:09:02
know,
1:09:02
she
1:09:02
got
1:09:03
these
1:09:03
feelings
1:09:03
and
1:09:03
she
1:09:04
gets
1:09:04
this
1:09:04
chest
1:09:04
pain
1:09:04
and
1:09:05
she,
1:09:05
I
1:09:05
think
1:09:05
this
1:09:06
anxious
1:09:06
mom.
1:09:09
I
1:09:09
said,
1:09:09
well,
1:09:09
let
1:09:10
me
1:09:10
talk
1:09:10
to
1:09:10
her.
1:09:10
I
1:09:10
didn't
1:09:10
see
1:09:10
her
1:09:10
as
1:09:11
a
1:09:11
patient.
1:09:11
I
1:09:11
said,
1:09:11
yeah,
1:09:12
and
1:09:13
she'd
1:09:13
seen
1:09:13
all
1:09:13
these
1:09:14
doctors,
1:09:15
mostly
1:09:15
heart
1:09:15
doctors,
1:09:16
because
1:09:16
she
1:09:16
goes
1:09:16
to
1:09:16
the
1:09:16
er.
1:09:17
She
1:09:17
gets
1:09:17
these
1:09:17
chest
1:09:17
pains.
1:09:18
Yeah.
1:09:19
She
1:09:19
keeps
1:09:19
going
1:09:19
to
1:09:19
doctors.
1:09:20
He
1:09:20
keeps
1:09:20
saying
1:09:20
that
1:09:20
things
1:09:21
wrong.
1:09:21
They
1:09:21
do
1:09:21
echocardiogram.
1:09:22
She's
1:09:22
young
1:09:23
and
1:09:23
healthy.
1:09:23
Yeah.
1:09:24
Oh,
1:09:25
you're
1:09:25
just,
1:09:25
you're
1:09:25
just
1:09:25
stressed.
1:09:26
This
1:09:26
is
1:09:26
just
1:09:26
panic
1:09:27
attack.
1:09:28
And
1:09:28
so
1:09:28
I
1:09:28
really
1:09:29
listen.
1:09:29
She
1:09:29
took
1:09:30
her
1:09:30
partner
1:09:30
over
1:09:30
for
1:09:30
dinner.
1:09:31
I
1:09:31
really
1:09:31
listened
1:09:32
to
1:09:32
her.
1:09:33
I
1:09:33
said,
1:09:33
okay,
1:09:34
stand
1:09:35
up.
1:09:35
And
1:09:35
I
1:09:35
had
1:09:35
her
1:09:35
put
1:09:35
her
1:09:36
arms
1:09:36
out
1:09:36
and
1:09:36
I
1:09:36
took
1:09:36
her
1:09:37
pulse.
1:09:38
And
1:09:38
I
1:09:38
said,
1:09:39
turn
1:09:39
your
1:09:39
head
1:09:39
this
1:09:39
way
1:09:39
and
1:09:40
turn
1:09:40
your
1:09:40
head
1:09:40
that
1:09:40
way.
1:09:41
And
1:09:41
I
1:09:42
said,
1:09:42
I
1:09:42
think
1:09:42
you
1:09:42
have.
1:09:43
Because
1:09:43
I'm
1:09:44
experienced
1:09:44
too.
1:09:45
Yeah.
1:09:47
This
1:09:47
isn't
1:09:47
stress.
1:09:48
This
1:09:48
isn't
1:09:48
heart.
1:09:49
You
1:09:49
have
1:09:49
vascular
1:09:49
thoracic
1:09:50
outlet
1:09:53
and
1:09:53
it'll
1:09:53
give
1:09:54
you
1:09:54
chest
1:09:54
pain.
1:09:55
And
1:09:55
when
1:09:55
you're
1:09:55
stressed,
1:09:56
those
1:09:56
muscles
1:09:57
are
1:09:57
going
1:09:57
to
1:09:57
tighten
1:09:57
up
1:09:57
and.
1:09:58
And
1:09:58
decrease
1:09:58
blood
1:09:58
flow.
1:09:59
She's
1:09:59
getting
1:09:59
numbness
1:09:59
and
1:10:00
tingling
1:10:00
down
1:10:00
her
1:10:00
arm.
1:10:01
That's
1:10:01
what
1:10:01
I
1:10:01
get.
1:10:03
And
1:10:03
I
1:10:03
said,
1:10:03
that's
1:10:03
what
1:10:04
it
1:10:04
is.
1:10:04
She
1:10:04
goes,
1:10:04
well,
1:10:04
I've
1:10:04
seen
1:10:05
all
1:10:05
these
1:10:05
doctors.
1:10:06
How
1:10:06
could
1:10:06
you
1:10:06
do
1:10:07
this
1:10:07
in
1:10:07
five
1:10:07
minutes?
1:10:07
I
1:10:08
said,
1:10:08
trust
1:10:08
me.
1:10:09
Go
1:10:09
back,
1:10:10
tell
1:10:10
them
1:10:11
you
1:10:11
want
1:10:11
a
1:10:11
vascular
1:10:12
thoracic
1:10:12
outlet
1:10:13
outlet
1:10:14
study.
1:10:14
An
1:10:14
ultrasound.
1:10:16
What
1:10:16
can
1:10:16
they
1:10:16
do
1:10:17
for
1:10:17
that?
1:10:17
That's
1:10:18
what
1:10:18
it
1:10:18
was.
1:10:18
Physical
1:10:18
therapy.
1:10:20
But
1:10:20
have
1:10:21
a
1:10:21
diagnosis
1:10:22
and
1:10:22
then
1:10:22
you
1:10:22
go
1:10:22
to
1:10:23
a
1:10:23
physical
1:10:23
therapist
1:10:23
to
1:10:23
know
1:10:24
exactly
1:10:24
what
1:10:24
to
1:10:24
do.
1:10:26
Interesting,
1:10:27
because
1:10:27
that's
1:10:27
actually
1:10:28
the
1:10:28
thing
1:10:28
I
1:10:28
went
1:10:28
to
1:10:29
the
1:10:29
neurologist
1:10:29
for.
1:10:29
But
1:10:30
then
1:10:30
my
1:10:30
insurance
1:10:30
wasn't
1:10:31
covering
1:10:31
it.
1:10:31
They
1:10:31
wanted
1:10:32
to
1:10:32
do
1:10:32
some
1:10:32
kind
1:10:32
of
1:10:32
a
1:10:33
test,
1:10:33
like
1:10:33
to,
1:10:34
I
1:10:35
don't
1:10:35
know,
1:10:35
see
1:10:36
what
1:10:36
was
1:10:36
firing.
1:10:38
What'd
1:10:38
you
1:10:39
say?
1:10:39
Nerve
1:10:40
conduction
1:10:40
study
1:10:40
test.
1:10:41
Yeah,
1:10:42
but
1:10:42
you
1:10:42
know,
1:10:43
that's
1:10:44
only
1:10:44
going
1:10:44
to
1:10:44
be
1:10:44
positive
1:10:45
if
1:10:45
you've
1:10:46
got
1:10:46
nerve
1:10:46
damage,
1:10:47
so
1:10:48
symptoms
1:10:48
are
1:10:48
constant.
1:10:49
The
1:10:50
nerve
1:10:50
conduction
1:10:50
test
1:10:51
might
1:10:51
show
1:10:51
something,
1:10:52
but
1:10:52
if
1:10:52
they
1:10:53
come
1:10:53
and
1:10:53
go,
1:10:54
it's
1:10:54
not
1:10:54
going
1:10:54
to
1:10:55
show
1:10:55
anything
1:10:56
interesting.
1:10:58
But
1:10:59
it's
1:10:59
vascular
1:11:00
thoracic
1:11:00
outlet,
1:11:01
and
1:11:01
a
1:11:01
young
1:11:01
person's
1:11:02
underdiagnosed
1:11:04
because
1:11:04
there's
1:11:04
nothing.
1:11:05
You
1:11:05
know,
1:11:05
X
1:11:05
ray
1:11:05
will
1:11:05
look
1:11:06
fine,
1:11:06
your
1:11:06
studies
1:11:06
look
1:11:07
fine.
1:11:07
But
1:11:07
they
1:11:07
have
1:11:08
to
1:11:08
do
1:11:08
that
1:11:08
ultrasound
1:11:09
with
1:11:10
provocative
1:11:10
studies.
1:11:11
Turn
1:11:11
your
1:11:12
head
1:11:12
this
1:11:12
way
1:11:12
because
1:11:12
the
1:11:12
muscles
1:11:13
will,
1:11:14
will,
1:11:14
will.
1:11:15
Yes.
1:11:18
That's
1:11:18
literally
1:11:18
what
1:11:18
happens.
1:11:19
Certain
1:11:20
positions.
1:11:21
Yeah.
1:11:24
What
1:11:25
is
1:11:25
it
1:11:25
called?
1:11:26
Vascular.
1:11:27
She
1:11:27
was
1:11:28
blown
1:11:28
off
1:11:28
by
1:11:28
every
1:11:29
doctor
1:11:29
she
1:11:29
saw.
1:11:31
And
1:11:31
even
1:11:31
my
1:11:32
son
1:11:32
said,
1:11:32
oh,
1:11:32
mom,
1:11:33
she's
1:11:33
just
1:11:33
anxious.
1:11:34
I
1:11:34
said,
1:11:35
now
1:11:35
let.
1:11:35
Let
1:11:36
me
1:11:36
listen
1:11:36
to
1:11:37
her.
1:11:37
Don't
1:11:37
just
1:11:37
say
1:11:38
she's
1:11:38
anxious
1:11:38
before
1:11:39
for
1:11:39
you.
1:11:39
That's
1:11:40
incredible.
1:11:41
Yeah,
1:11:41
before,
1:11:42
you
1:11:42
know.
1:11:43
Okay,
1:11:43
I
1:11:44
do
1:11:44
have
1:11:44
to
1:11:44
say
1:11:44
one
1:11:44
more
1:11:44
time,
1:11:44
what
1:11:45
did
1:11:45
you
1:11:45
call
1:11:46
that
1:11:46
again?
1:11:46
Vascular
1:11:47
thrust.
1:11:47
Vascular
1:11:48
thoracic
1:11:50
outlet
1:11:50
syndrome.
1:11:51
Outlet.
1:11:52
Okay.
1:11:54
Because
1:11:55
one
1:11:55
thing
1:11:55
that
1:11:55
you
1:11:56
said
1:11:56
is
1:11:58
stressed
1:11:58
or
1:11:59
tired.
1:11:59
And
1:11:59
my
1:12:00
chiropractor
1:12:01
said,
1:12:01
well,
1:12:01
yeah,
1:12:01
you
1:12:01
stayed
1:12:02
up
1:12:02
working
1:12:02
all
1:12:02
night.
1:12:02
It's
1:12:03
gonna.
1:12:03
You're
1:12:04
gonna
1:12:04
feel
1:12:04
it.
1:12:04
And
1:12:05
so
1:12:05
that
1:12:06
I
1:12:06
started
1:12:06
paying
1:12:06
attention.
1:12:07
And
1:12:07
it
1:12:07
does
1:12:07
come
1:12:09
when
1:12:09
I'm
1:12:09
more.
1:12:11
It's
1:12:11
with.
1:12:11
It's
1:12:12
certain
1:12:12
postures,
1:12:12
certain
1:12:13
people
1:12:13
that
1:12:13
have
1:12:13
a
1:12:13
certain
1:12:14
anatomy
1:12:14
to
1:12:14
their
1:12:14
neck.
1:12:17
Sometimes
1:12:17
you're
1:12:17
doing
1:12:18
exercises
1:12:18
wrong.
1:12:19
If
1:12:19
you're
1:12:19
sitting,
1:12:19
like
1:12:20
typing
1:12:20
a
1:12:20
lot,
1:12:21
that
1:12:21
can.
1:12:22
That
1:12:22
can
1:12:22
kind
1:12:22
of
1:12:23
make
1:12:23
these
1:12:23
muscles
1:12:24
tighten
1:12:24
up.
1:12:25
And
1:12:25
if
1:12:26
these
1:12:26
muscles
1:12:26
here
1:12:27
tighten
1:12:28
up,
1:12:28
they
1:12:29
can
1:12:29
put
1:12:29
pressure
1:12:30
on
1:12:30
the
1:12:30
vasculature
1:12:31
that
1:12:32
feeds
1:12:32
the
1:12:32
arm.
1:12:33
Just
1:12:33
get
1:12:33
chest
1:12:34
and
1:12:34
get
1:12:35
numbness
1:12:35
and
1:12:35
tingling.
1:12:36
It
1:12:36
gets
1:12:37
bad.
1:12:37
I'll
1:12:37
drop
1:12:38
things.
1:12:38
Like,
1:12:38
I
1:12:38
can't
1:12:39
shave
1:12:39
my
1:12:39
legs
1:12:39
sometimes
1:12:40
or.
1:12:42
Yeah.
1:12:43
So
1:12:44
that
1:12:44
I.
1:12:45
First
1:12:45
thing
1:12:45
I
1:12:46
would
1:12:46
do
1:12:46
with
1:12:46
you
1:12:46
is
1:12:46
be
1:12:46
that
1:12:47
ultrasound.
1:12:47
The
1:12:48
nerve
1:12:48
conduction
1:12:48
study
1:12:49
would
1:12:49
be
1:12:49
the
1:12:50
last
1:12:50
thing.
1:12:51
Interesting.
1:12:51
I'm
1:12:51
so
1:12:52
glad
1:12:52
I
1:12:52
didn't
1:12:52
go
1:12:52
through
1:12:52
with
1:12:52
it
1:12:53
then.
1:12:54
Just
1:12:54
money
1:12:55
because
1:12:55
it
1:12:55
comes
1:12:56
and
1:12:56
it
1:12:56
goes.
1:12:56
So
1:12:57
that's
1:12:58
a
1:12:58
possibility.
1:12:59
Interesting.
1:13:01
Women
1:13:01
have
1:13:01
abdominal
1:13:02
pain
1:13:02
and
1:13:03
it
1:13:03
could
1:13:03
be
1:13:04
a
1:13:04
ovarian
1:13:05
cyst.
1:13:06
And
1:13:06
they
1:13:07
don't
1:13:07
look,
1:13:07
they
1:13:08
just
1:13:08
say,
1:13:08
oh,
1:13:08
it's,
1:13:08
it's
1:13:09
your
1:13:09
menstrual
1:13:09
period.
1:13:10
Or
1:13:10
they,
1:13:11
they
1:13:11
blow
1:13:11
you
1:13:11
off.
1:13:12
But
1:13:13
you
1:13:13
want
1:13:13
to
1:13:13
make
1:13:13
sure
1:13:13
you're
1:13:14
heard,
1:13:14
you're
1:13:15
heard,
1:13:15
you're
1:13:15
examined.
1:13:16
If
1:13:16
you're
1:13:16
comfortable
1:13:17
that
1:13:17
they
1:13:18
listen
1:13:18
to
1:13:18
you
1:13:19
and
1:13:19
you
1:13:19
addressed
1:13:20
all
1:13:20
your
1:13:20
concerns.
1:13:21
If
1:13:21
you're
1:13:21
not,
1:13:22
they
1:13:22
should
1:13:23
be
1:13:23
comfortable
1:13:24
with
1:13:24
you
1:13:24
getting
1:13:24
a
1:13:25
second
1:13:25
opinion.
1:13:26
Okay.
1:13:26
Well,
1:13:26
even
1:13:27
when
1:13:27
they
1:13:27
see
1:13:27
assist,
1:13:28
they
1:13:28
just
1:13:28
say,
1:13:28
oh,
1:13:29
yeah,
1:13:29
it's
1:13:29
just
1:13:30
going
1:13:30
to
1:13:30
be
1:13:30
painful,
1:13:30
but
1:13:30
it'll
1:13:31
rupture
1:13:31
eventually
1:13:32
and
1:13:32
it's
1:13:33
just,
1:13:33
you
1:13:33
know,
1:13:33
go
1:13:34
with
1:13:34
the
1:13:34
flow.
1:13:34
So
1:13:35
I
1:13:35
don't
1:13:35
know.
1:13:36
Well,
1:13:37
it
1:13:37
depends.
1:13:38
Sometimes
1:13:38
they
1:13:38
can
1:13:39
operate
1:13:39
on
1:13:39
a
1:13:40
cyst
1:13:40
if
1:13:40
it's
1:13:41
really
1:13:41
painful.
1:13:41
And
1:13:41
you're
1:13:42
in
1:13:42
and
1:13:42
out
1:13:42
of
1:13:43
the
1:13:43
ER
1:13:43
all
1:13:43
the
1:13:43
time.
1:13:44
Yeah,
1:13:45
but
1:13:46
you
1:13:46
have
1:13:46
to
1:13:46
believe
1:13:47
that
1:13:47
that's
1:13:47
what
1:13:47
it
1:13:48
is
1:13:48
and
1:13:49
know
1:13:49
that
1:13:49
they
1:13:49
really
1:13:50
looked
1:13:50
and
1:13:50
they're
1:13:51
not
1:13:51
just
1:13:51
saying,
1:13:51
it's
1:13:52
just
1:13:52
this.
1:13:53
Yeah.
1:13:53
And
1:13:53
maybe
1:13:54
ask
1:13:54
more
1:13:54
questions,
1:13:55
like.
1:13:56
Yes,
1:13:56
ask
1:13:57
questions.
1:13:58
Yeah.
1:13:58
Like
1:13:59
can
1:13:59
you
1:13:59
operate
1:14:00
on
1:14:00
this?
1:14:00
Or
1:14:00
why
1:14:00
do
1:14:01
you
1:14:01
say,
1:14:02
is
1:14:02
there
1:14:02
a
1:14:02
time
1:14:03
when.
1:14:04
I
1:14:04
don't
1:14:04
know.
1:14:04
I
1:14:04
guess
1:14:04
just
1:14:05
get
1:14:05
more
1:14:05
deep.
1:14:07
Yeah.
1:14:07
Interesting.
1:14:10
Okay.
1:14:10
Sometimes
1:14:11
going
1:14:11
in
1:14:11
there
1:14:12
with
1:14:12
your
1:14:12
questions
1:14:13
in
1:14:13
advance,
1:14:14
sometimes
1:14:14
you
1:14:14
won't
1:14:15
have
1:14:15
any
1:14:15
questions
1:14:15
yet,
1:14:16
but
1:14:16
they'll
1:14:17
talk
1:14:17
to
1:14:17
you.
1:14:18
And
1:14:19
maybe
1:14:19
later,
1:14:20
if
1:14:20
some
1:14:20
question
1:14:20
comes
1:14:21
up,
1:14:21
ask
1:14:21
them.
1:14:22
Okay,
1:14:23
my
1:14:23
chart
1:14:23
today.
1:14:24
You
1:14:24
can
1:14:24
usually
1:14:24
email
1:14:25
somebody
1:14:26
if
1:14:26
you
1:14:26
don't
1:14:26
have
1:14:26
a
1:14:27
follow
1:14:27
up
1:14:27
or
1:14:27
if
1:14:27
you
1:14:28
don't,
1:14:28
you
1:14:28
still
1:14:29
symptomatic.
1:14:30
You
1:14:30
could
1:14:31
contact
1:14:31
them
1:14:31
and
1:14:31
say,
1:14:31
I'm
1:14:32
still
1:14:32
symptomatic.
1:14:32
Do
1:14:33
you
1:14:33
want
1:14:33
me
1:14:33
to
1:14:33
come
1:14:33
back
1:14:33
or
1:14:33
should
1:14:34
I
1:14:34
get
1:14:34
another
1:14:34
opinion?
1:14:35
And
1:14:37
they,
1:14:37
they
1:14:37
want
1:14:38
you
1:14:38
to
1:14:38
take
1:14:39
care
1:14:39
of
1:14:39
you.
1:14:39
They
1:14:39
want
1:14:39
you
1:14:40
to.
1:14:40
Yeah.
1:14:41
That's
1:14:41
good
1:14:42
advice
1:14:42
too,
1:14:42
because
1:14:42
Sam,
1:14:43
I
1:14:43
think
1:14:43
you
1:14:44
are
1:14:44
kind
1:14:44
of
1:14:44
like
1:14:44
that
1:14:45
where
1:14:45
you
1:14:45
have
1:14:45
to
1:14:45
process
1:14:46
things
1:14:46
and
1:14:46
then
1:14:47
the
1:14:47
questions
1:14:47
come
1:14:48
to
1:14:48
you
1:14:48
later.
1:14:49
So
1:14:49
like,
1:14:50
no.
1:14:50
Yeah.
1:14:50
And
1:14:50
then
1:14:50
I
1:14:50
just
1:14:51
kind
1:14:51
of
1:14:51
shrug.
1:14:51
I'm
1:14:51
like,
1:14:52
oh,
1:14:52
it's
1:14:52
too
1:14:52
late.
1:14:54
Yeah,
1:14:55
but
1:14:55
it's
1:14:55
not
1:14:55
too
1:14:56
late.
1:14:56
We
1:14:56
can
1:14:56
email
1:14:57
them,
1:14:57
I
1:14:57
guess
1:14:57
like.
1:14:58
You'Re
1:14:58
saying,
1:14:59
yeah,
1:15:00
it's
1:15:00
not
1:15:00
too
1:15:00
late.
1:15:01
And
1:15:01
well,
1:15:02
this
1:15:02
has
1:15:02
been
1:15:02
a
1:15:02
great.
1:15:03
The
1:15:03
doctor
1:15:04
wants
1:15:04
to
1:15:04
know
1:15:04
if
1:15:05
your
1:15:05
symptom,
1:15:05
because
1:15:05
they,
1:15:06
they're,
1:15:06
if
1:15:06
they
1:15:06
think
1:15:06
it's
1:15:07
something
1:15:07
and
1:15:08
they're
1:15:08
wrong,
1:15:09
then
1:15:09
they're
1:15:10
thinking
1:15:10
you're
1:15:10
going
1:15:10
to
1:15:10
get
1:15:10
better.
1:15:11
So
1:15:11
if
1:15:11
you
1:15:12
don't
1:15:12
get
1:15:12
better,
1:15:12
the
1:15:12
symptoms
1:15:13
get
1:15:13
worse,
1:15:14
then
1:15:14
they
1:15:15
would
1:15:15
want
1:15:15
to
1:15:15
know
1:15:15
that
1:15:16
because
1:15:16
they
1:15:16
would
1:15:16
probably
1:15:16
want
1:15:16
to
1:15:17
do
1:15:17
more
1:15:17
tests.
1:15:18
Okay.
1:15:19
Okay.
1:15:19
You're
1:15:19
helping
1:15:21
because
1:15:21
doctors
1:15:22
help
1:15:23
you,
1:15:24
but
1:15:24
sometimes
1:15:25
they're
1:15:25
rushed
1:15:26
or
1:15:26
they.
1:15:27
They
1:15:27
really
1:15:27
think
1:15:27
it's
1:15:27
something
1:15:28
and
1:15:28
they're.
1:15:29
They're
1:15:29
missing
1:15:29
the
1:15:29
diagnosis.
1:15:30
And
1:15:31
unless
1:15:31
you
1:15:31
come
1:15:32
back
1:15:32
with,
1:15:32
well,
1:15:32
it's
1:15:33
still
1:15:33
not
1:15:33
better.
1:15:33
Doctor,
1:15:34
they
1:15:35
don't
1:15:35
know.
1:15:35
And
1:15:36
they
1:15:36
don't
1:15:36
know
1:15:36
to
1:15:37
keep
1:15:37
looking.
1:15:38
Yeah,
1:15:39
it's
1:15:40
a
1:15:40
partnership
1:15:40
with
1:15:40
your
1:15:41
doctor.
1:15:41
You're
1:15:41
both
1:15:41
trying
1:15:41
to
1:15:42
figure
1:15:42
out
1:15:42
what's
1:15:42
wrong.
1:15:43
Well,
1:15:43
thank
1:15:43
you.
1:15:44
Yeah.
1:15:45
This
1:15:45
has
1:15:45
been
1:15:45
so
1:15:45
enlightening.
1:15:46
Oh,
1:15:46
good,
1:15:47
good.
1:15:47
Absolutely.
1:15:49
Well,
1:15:49
thank
1:15:49
you,
1:15:49
Carolyn.
1:15:50
Or
1:15:51
Dr.
1:15:51
Taylor.
1:15:52
I'm
1:15:52
so
1:15:52
sorry.
1:15:52
I
1:15:52
was
1:15:53
probably
1:15:53
too
1:15:53
informal.
1:15:54
You.
1:15:54
You
1:15:55
can
1:15:55
call
1:15:55
me
1:15:55
Carolyn.
1:15:56
Okay.
1:15:56
Okay.
1:15:57
We're
1:15:57
on
1:15:57
BFF
1:15:58
level
1:15:58
now.
1:15:59
Are
1:15:59
we,
1:16:00
though?
1:16:00
I
1:16:00
hope
1:16:00
so.
1:16:03
Yes,
1:16:04
absolutely.
1:16:04
So.
1:16:05
Thank
1:16:05
you,
1:16:05
ladies.
1:16:05
I
1:16:05
really
1:16:06
had
1:16:06
fun.
1:16:07
Thank
1:16:07
you.
1:16:08
And
1:16:08
you
1:16:08
have
1:16:08
a
1:16:08
beautiful
1:16:09
day.
1:16:09
You,
1:16:10
too.
1:16:10
Thank
1:16:10
you.
1:16:11
Bye.
1:16:11
Bye.
1:16:12
Did
1:16:12
you
1:16:12
like
1:16:12
the
1:16:13
episode
1:16:13
that
1:16:13
you
1:16:13
heard
1:16:14
today?
1:16:14
Great.
1:16:15
Share
1:16:15
it
1:16:16
with
1:16:16
a
1:16:16
friend.
1:16:16
And
1:16:17
don't
1:16:17
forget
1:16:17
to
1:16:18
rate
1:16:18
and
1:16:18
reveal
1:16:20
Sam.