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Broken Arrows, Part 2: In Which Actions Have Consequence · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in. Shout out to super producer Max Kiloton Williams.
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  Speaker 1: This is part two of a continuing series I'm been
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  Speaker 1: your milk.
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  Speaker 2: How is he gonna like mc kiloton or like DJ
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  Speaker 2: kill It.
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  Speaker 1: Surely, surely there's an the nineties or early two thousands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not from the eighties, because you know, they
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  Speaker 2: were genuinely living a feared of nuclear war.
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  Speaker 1: Duck and cover and all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But do you remember me? Isn't that interesting? Occurred to
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  Speaker 2: me recently? I think I was listening to an interview
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  Speaker 2: with a writer I believe it was on a podcast
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  Speaker 2: I like, and he was talking about how, you know,
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  Speaker 2: distinctly he remembered the Cold War as a kid and
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  Speaker 2: like going through drills like where you'd hide under your
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  Speaker 2: desk as if that was going to protect you from
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  Speaker 2: a nuclear blast.
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  Speaker 1: I had been, Yeah, I'd been in some of those drills.
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  Speaker 1: There were still around, you know, because you had the
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  Speaker 1: tornado drill where you had to go in the hallway
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  Speaker 1: and get like face down into the base boards. But
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear drills felt almost more like propaganda, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What, like this one, if I'm not mistaken, Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is from the.
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  Speaker 3: Fifties, to be fair, yeah, Cover, Yeah, but there were
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  Speaker 3: more modern versions of this type of it was it
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  Speaker 3: was more mental than it was actually going to help
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  Speaker 3: you physically.
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  Speaker 4: I remember in my APUs class back in high school,
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  Speaker 4: we did all like a whole thing about Cold war propaganda,
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  Speaker 4: and Duck and Cover was one that we watched varying detail.
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  Speaker 5: I love these things, and dun Cover.
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  Speaker 4: Is the one's infamous because it has like there a
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  Speaker 4: family out on a picnic and the dad put the
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  Speaker 4: newspaper on his head. It's like even something as thin
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  Speaker 4: as a newspaper canna help protect you.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, no, it won't.
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  Speaker 1: It will kill you, will die, prevent you from seeing
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  Speaker 1: the arrival of your death. Correct. But something that burns
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  Speaker 1: so hot and so bright that it can make shadows
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  Speaker 1: on a wall permanent is not going to be not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be stopped by a desk or newspaper. But it's
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  Speaker 1: weird too, nol Because in an effort to make those
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  Speaker 1: things more approachable for children, they made the messages one
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  Speaker 1: hundred times more creepy, you know what I mean. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's this anthropomorphic cartoon turtle who's telling you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hide from the nuclear weapons. Anyway people knew they were
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  Speaker 1: a threat. This this is part two. Listen to Part
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  Speaker 1: one of Broken Arrows. In today's episode, we're diving into
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  Speaker 1: some more specific cases of lost nukes. The first one
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about is the only one
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  Speaker 1: that is not lost in some kind of body of water.
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  Speaker 1: This one is in the ground, which you would think
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  Speaker 1: would make it way easier to find, right, Like, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need a submarine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think that. I guess you could just
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  Speaker 2: use like, you know, one of those things that beachcombers use,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like a metal detector, you know, for like
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  Speaker 2: a a hobbyist treasure hunter. Surely there's like a large
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  Speaker 2: scale version of that, right yeah, right, Or at the
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  Speaker 2: very least, couldn't you do some kind of radar situation
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  Speaker 2: where maybe light ar where you could like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sort of like those things they have on fishing boats
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  Speaker 2: where you can kind of see the shape of a
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  Speaker 2: thing like there has to be that's also part of
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  Speaker 2: the way they find dinosaur fossils. I believe these things
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  Speaker 2: so what's the deal, Ben, Why was it that the case?
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Heather Lea for WRAL dot com,
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  Speaker 1: who points out is not one but two nuclear bombs
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  Speaker 1: lost in North Carolina because of a crashing military airplane
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  Speaker 1: and they're in a field somewhere near Goldsboro. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: some Wayne's World flashback.
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  Speaker 5: There is there.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, Okay, So now we're back. It's nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty one. The bomber carrying these nukes has a fuel leak,
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  Speaker 1: and before it manages to land at Seymour Johnson Air
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  Speaker 1: Force Base in Goldsborough, the pilot says, all right, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep flying. We want to try to burn off
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  Speaker 1: some gas. Hopefully this will prevent the plane from exploding
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  Speaker 1: if I try this risky land in.
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  Speaker 2: The event that it doesn't go as expected. Anytime you're
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  Speaker 2: gliding into a landing link that any number of things
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  Speaker 2: could go wrong. So that is a standard operating procedure
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  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So he's burning off the gas.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, though, the leak gets a lot worse, and so
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  Speaker 2: the crew turns around and start to approach Seymour Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Five of these crewmen ejected out of a hatch you know,
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  Speaker 2: one by one, and the B fifty two could be
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  Speaker 2: seen by each of them from their parachutes, and it
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  Speaker 2: could be seen blowing up, breaking apart in mid air,
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  Speaker 2: and the two hydrogen bombs along with it, separated from
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  Speaker 2: the plane falling, falling, falling into the North Carolina fields.
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  Speaker 1: And this is swampy land too. It's really important for
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  Speaker 1: the story. So one of the bombs has a parachute
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  Speaker 1: guiding its fall and it lands intact. The other one
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  Speaker 1: slams into the mud, like I said, going hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: miles an hour. It is wormed deep into the swamp
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  Speaker 1: and officials aren't able to get all of the pieces
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  Speaker 1: of this bomb. Some pieces are still there, according to
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  Speaker 1: the story, nearly two hundred feet beneath the grid, and
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  Speaker 1: only a single switch prevented this bomb from detonating. In
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  Speaker 1: our last episode we talked about mega tons. That's a
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  Speaker 1: million ton metric tons of TNT. This bomb was a
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  Speaker 1: two point four megaton bomb, and of course they tried
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  Speaker 1: to keep it secret, but it got declassified and if
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  Speaker 1: you look at the photos of the scene, it is terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: We got to introduce a hero to the story, Noel,
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  Speaker 1: Lieutenant Jack revel who was the bomb disposal expert who
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  Speaker 1: got the call to try to stop and disarm a nuclear.
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  Speaker 2: Weapon, right, which I believe involves removing either the detonator
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  Speaker 2: or the explosive.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have someone yelling at you about colors
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  Speaker 1: of wires, Okay, got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or if you're in a leading tune, start tain
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  Speaker 2: just hitting it with a hammer right.
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  Speaker 1: On the Yeah, and obviously the tenant jack is done.
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  Speaker 1: All of these. But yeah, you're you're right. The serious
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  Speaker 1: answer you gave is is correct. He would later say,
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget hearing my sergeants say, Lieutenant, we found
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  Speaker 1: the arm safe switch. That's the switch that you know
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  Speaker 1: decides whether or not the bomb can detonate. And he thought,
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  Speaker 1: oh great, okay, something good happened. And then.
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to mime out what it is. One
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  Speaker 4: way arm blows up, other way it doesn't blow up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: gave me the stranger just looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was a strange thing to be doing, Max,
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  Speaker 2: So luckily, luckily for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Luckily, it's weird between us, and I'm in a weird place,
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  Speaker 1: so I have to turn to see between you guys.
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  Speaker 1: But it's immensely fortunate that they were able to find
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  Speaker 1: this switch. The lieutenant is thinking, great, finally something's going right.
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  Speaker 2: But the switch was armed, so it could have blown ups.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big yikes. Max, I'm gonna need you to.
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  Speaker 2: Keep your hands to yourself, buddy yourself. Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 2: mega yikes. Another potential whoopsie resulting from an original whoopsie
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  Speaker 2: that was already a massive whipsie. Which these are official
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  Speaker 2: military terms, by the.
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  Speaker 1: Way, Yes, these are official terms of nuclear nomenclature, engineering jargon. Whoopsies.
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  Speaker 1: So this could have easily killed tons and tons of people,
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  Speaker 1: and we're talking like thousands of folks could have died
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  Speaker 1: in the blasts. There would have been a radioactive cloud.
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  Speaker 1: Without knowing which direction the wind blew, we can still
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  Speaker 1: say that long term cancer rates would have skyrocketed in
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  Speaker 1: the area over time. If it hit in Raleigh, it
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  Speaker 1: would have taken out Raleigh, Chapel Hill, all the surrounding cities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Indie Rock would have been decimated.
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  Speaker 1: These bombs are more powerful than the ones that were
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  Speaker 1: dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I mean, I'm I'm joking, but it's true. Raleigh
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  Speaker 2: Chapel Hill, the Research Triangle. It's the seat of Merge Records.
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  Speaker 2: And also I believe, well maybe now the mog Factory
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  Speaker 2: is in Ashville, but there used to have a presence
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  Speaker 2: there as well, or at least mog Fest that I
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  Speaker 2: went to once, but also incredible seats of academia, which
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  Speaker 2: I believe our buddies Will and Mangesh went to Duke University,
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  Speaker 2: which is in that general neck of.
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  Speaker 1: The whip time at Duke as well, is pretty pretty
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  Speaker 1: cool place, and I'm glad it's still around.
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  Speaker 2: Glad it didn't get decimated by an accidental atomic whoopsie,
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  Speaker 2: which I know is redundant to say an accidental whopsie.
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  Speaker 1: But now you can go see evidence of this. There
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  Speaker 1: is a sign marker in Eureka and North Carolina, three
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  Speaker 1: miles away from the site of the nuclear mishap. The
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  Speaker 1: only evidence of this brush with disaster is a small
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  Speaker 1: patch of trees, some weird colored dirt in a field.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the only reminders of that fate full night.
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  Speaker 1: And this, of course is just one example. We have
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  Speaker 1: another example of a nuclear weapon falling off an aircraft
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  Speaker 1: carrier and politicizer, so totally disappeared. It might be out
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  Speaker 1: there right now. It might be.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I pictured it like living a weird secret life.
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  Speaker 1: Until this went in Hanniballectre. You find out that your
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  Speaker 1: best friend is a nuclear bomb disguised as a person.
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  Speaker 1: How do you proceed? You were at my daughter's wedding.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you how you proceed with caution? Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so oopsie off the back of him. Sorry, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna stop saying that and make no apologies for it.
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  Speaker 2: Off the back of an aircraft carrier. How does that
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  Speaker 2: even happen?
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  Speaker 1: You know, you get in situations.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody had a little slipperoo and their hand graized the
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  Speaker 2: deploy nuke.
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  Speaker 1: Which let's go to Mario Alvaro Limos for Esquire magazine.
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  Speaker 1: He says, no one knows where this bomb is. It's
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  Speaker 1: somewhere at the bottom of the Philippine Sea. In December
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, that aircraft carrier mentioned the USS Taekwonderoga,
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  Speaker 1: left the Subic Naval Base. This was at the time
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  Speaker 1: the largest overseas military base in the world for the US,
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  Speaker 1: and the Taekwonderoga sailed to the Philippine Sea. It participated
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  Speaker 1: in a naval exercise, so wargame basically, and during the exercise,
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  Speaker 1: the Navy aboard the Taekwonder Roga tried to move one
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  Speaker 1: of their fighter aircraft. And these carriers, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they can launch planes is amazing, but also the space
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  Speaker 1: is like crazy tight. It's always interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And you know in a movie if someone like a
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  Speaker 2: scientist or whatever gets picked up by an aircraft carrier
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  Speaker 2: and they're like the only one in there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Is serious, right exactly? Yeah, And the aircraft they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to move is what's called a Douglas A four E Skyhawk.
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  Speaker 1: It's being piloted by a guy named Lieutenant Douglas M. Webster.
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  Speaker 1: No relation to Douglas the Skyhawk or the firm, the
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  Speaker 1: tree or the firm, Yes, and no relation in Douglas Firm. Now,
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  Speaker 1: while they're moving this aircraft out of the hangar bay,
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  Speaker 1: it rolls over the side of the carrier, and it
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  Speaker 1: rolls over with the pilot still in it. The plane
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  Speaker 1: falls into the sea along with its payload, a B
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  Speaker 1: forty three nuclear bomb. It's tragic to report that the pilot,
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  Speaker 1: the plane, and the bomb, all three were lost and
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  Speaker 1: never recovered. To this day, there's somewhere four thy nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred meters at the bottom of the ocean.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty wild. So that's that is Titanic level depths.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, It's yeah, it's way deeper than the other stuff
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about. And this is something a point you
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  Speaker 1: brought up in episode one. Man, this is not a big,
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  Speaker 1: big story the US, like a carrier, is a small city,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a small city where every resident is directly
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  Speaker 1: controlled by the US got totally.
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  Speaker 2: So they happened in isolation, or at least far enough
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  Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere that it wasn't like
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  Speaker 2: there were any Look you.
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  Speaker 1: Lose right, right, and so Uncle Sam was able to
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  Speaker 1: keep this a secret from the rest of the world
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  Speaker 1: until nineteen eighty nine, and the accident was nicknamed Broken
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  Speaker 1: Arrow Incident of nineteen sixty five.
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  Speaker 2: It's really creative.
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  Speaker 1: It's super creative. For decades.
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  Speaker 2: They were obviously working on that name totally. We're work
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  Speaker 2: shopping at you know, work. I gotta say that I
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  Speaker 2: do whatever, Yeah, one hundred percent. Filling out comment cards.
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  Speaker 2: I do love the the name.
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  Speaker 1: Taekwonda Roga. There's a really good you're going to say.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about dread.
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  Speaker 2: Drinks kind of club and they call it. I haven't been,
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  Speaker 2: but I've heard it's really good. It's great, and I
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  Speaker 2: love the name. It's very Western sounding, isn't it old Taekonderoga.
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  Speaker 4: Just to bring back fall Out again, that is one
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  Speaker 4: of the main railroad hideouts and Fallout four or you
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  Speaker 4: meet high Rise and unfortunately does not end well for
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  Speaker 4: all of them there. But you know, I want to
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  Speaker 4: force in as many Fallout four references as I can.
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  Speaker 2: There's a force I believe, the first defensive victory for
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  Speaker 2: American forces in the Revolutionary War.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: And the and the Fallout thing and the restaurant and
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft carrier of notes in this particular tail.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I can't hear you over my excitement of looking
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  Speaker 1: looking back at the Taekwonda Roga menu. Yeah, I gotta go.
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  Speaker 5: They're good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, did you hear that we're getting a
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  Speaker 2: Michelin guide here in Atlanta?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, Michael Michael Jordan, the guy one of
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  Speaker 1: the food writers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I just saw it. It came out and
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  Speaker 2: eat or whatever, but went to.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I think he went to our live panel with
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  Speaker 1: the lava for good guys, Oh, very cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think I met him, but I did
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  Speaker 2: not realize Ben, that the Michelin system is city by city.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 2: I've always wondered how come we don't have any Michelin
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  Speaker 2: Star restaurants in Atlanta? Who because we were not part
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  Speaker 2: of the system. And now Atlanta has been deemed by
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  Speaker 2: the weird staypuffed marshmallow man guy to be worthy of
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  Speaker 2: Michelin Stars, Great food City Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: Which if you want to learn more about that, check
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  Speaker 4: out our episode on the Michelin.
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  Speaker 2: Man Yes, which also goes into why the hell is
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  Speaker 2: this weird cartoon tire guy responsible for bestowing the crown
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  Speaker 2: jewels of restaurant accolades?
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  Speaker 1: Why is this tire mascot an unhinged alcoholic clearly drives drunk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's weird fingers and cigars at one.
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  Speaker 1: POINTZ Anyway, so the taikonderrok awesome name. They really should
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  Speaker 1: try the restaurant. It's great man. When you guys get
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  Speaker 1: a chance.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 1: The secret does eventually come out and Japan, remember they
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  Speaker 1: were participating in this training exercise. They launch a diplomatic
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  Speaker 1: inquiry into the incident and they're saying, hey, we should
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  Speaker 1: know if there's a nuclear weapon in the ocean near US.
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  Speaker 1: The carrier have been present in Japanese waters when this
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  Speaker 1: mishap occurred, and Japan does not allow nuclear weapons in
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  Speaker 1: its territory at all, full stop. And this is very sensitive.
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  Speaker 1: Remember it's nineteen sixty five. It's just a couple decades
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  Speaker 1: after America dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan. So they're
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  Speaker 1: feeling like the US misled them, which is totally true
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  Speaker 1: and valid, and they're feeling like they can't trust these
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  Speaker 1: people who are supposed to be there allies now. So
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  Speaker 1: this had huge geopolitical implications. Uh, the nuclear bomb, the
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  Speaker 1: B forty three that fell into the sea, was forty
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  Speaker 1: three times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima,
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  Speaker 1: and the military denied that there would be any lasting
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  Speaker 1: environmental impact due to this. You could just put it
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  Speaker 1: there and they're like, hey, don't worry, it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of water.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Now we're going to take this nuke party?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
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  Speaker 5: It is?
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Can you have an would be got to be kind
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  Speaker 2: of fun, Yeah, like.
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  Speaker 6: A party thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you've got biohazard suits, maybe got the little
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  Speaker 1: nuclear symbols.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps a centerpiece in the shape of a warhead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And the snacks alone are
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  Speaker 1: all pun based. Yeah, like uh uh oh, let me
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  Speaker 1: let me like plutonium popcorn. You know what, what's a
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  Speaker 1: good play on crew today? Even though I really don't
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  Speaker 1: like there has to be one chromium rude to boom.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's not good, Max. I will workshop this for
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  Speaker 2: a while, but this could be a fun theme party.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna take this, this nuclear themed cocktail
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  Speaker 2: party to as promised in episode one.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Savannah Jojo.
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  Speaker 2: Savannah Jojo, which is right in our neck of the woods,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful coastal spot here in our mainly landlocked state, really
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  Speaker 2: really really lovely place to visit, great food city as well,
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  Speaker 2: and the site of a broken arrow incident on the
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  Speaker 2: lovely Tybee Island. Literally refers to here as the Tybee
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  Speaker 2: Island broken arrow site.
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  Speaker 1: That is amazingly creative, it really is. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how long they spent on that one, you know, so, okay,
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  Speaker 1: twelve foot long thermonuclear bomb. This is a true story,
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  Speaker 1: and we all if you live in this area, you
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  Speaker 1: hear some version of this inevitably. Growing up, there was
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  Speaker 1: an accident in nineteen fifty eight that resulted in the
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  Speaker 1: bomb being not accidentally but intentionally jettisoned from a B
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  Speaker 1: forty seven bomber in the wee hours sometime after midnight,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: right after they had crashed in mid air against an
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: F eighty six fighter jet. A lot of you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a disturbing amount of planes running into each other. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like, no, we're not pilots, and of.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Course yes not air traffic controllers.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: We're not ATC. So I think, like a lot of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: land lubbers, we make the assumption that there's so much
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: sky out there and planes are so small in comparison
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that they could just sort of whiz by each other.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean the visibility is an issue obviously.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And anyway, again, I don't know enough information about this world.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Even conjecture, but turns out more common than you'd think.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Be Have you happened to catch the recent or so
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: ongoing Apple TV show Hijack.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. It's very good.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of those like two thousand's kind of
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: ABC NBC the Ticking Clock kind of action shows like
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: twenty four and things like that. But it's indris Elba
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and it's a commercial flight from Dubai to I believe
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: London is hijacked and it's it's a scenario you've seen
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a million times, but they do it really, really cleverly,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and at one point, which I believe is practice procedure
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: for this, if there is an unresponsive plane, you get
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: some attention from fighter jets.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, that is.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Given the potential for that plane to be in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: commission of a terrorist act. So that that's a very
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and not not spoiler. I won't go into what happens
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: at all, but it's a I didn't really think about that,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and it does make sense.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You got to have the comms and also unrelated to anything,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I just want to point this out. This is credit
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: where it's do. These new studios are great. There's a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: guy right outside. He's operating a leaf blower Max a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: leaf blower, Holy cow, And yeah, yeah you can see him.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, I wouldn't you know what I wouldn't.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: There is there is so and then we all know
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: how much you love leaf blowers.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I love how much of your life you've.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Spent, yeah, trying to record a podcast showing blowing leaves outside.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Your window to the point where he wrote a hit
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: piece on leaf flowers. Yeah, but check that episode out. Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you can check that out. You can also check out
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: what Noel, what you're talking about with these the importance
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of communication amid aircraft, civilian, commercial, and of course military.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: The B forty seven again it feels like tale as
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: old as time in this series. It's on a simulated
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: combat mission flying out a Homestead Air Force Base in Florida,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and when it gets to Savannah, it's like three point
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: thirty am. They hit an F eighty six and three times.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The B forty seven tries to land at Hunter Air
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Force Base in Georgia with that nuclear weapon on board,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: but the aircraft has just been walloped and this is weird.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They couldn't slow down enough to land safely.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So game time decision, you know, do we get rid
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of this weapon, you know, rather than potentially exposing Hunter
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Air Force Base to this high explosive detonation, right mm hmm.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it's it's a it's a
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: very tense and last minute call.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, And it's it's a call you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: have to make because you don't want to risk innocant
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: lives there, and so the weapon gets jettisoned a few
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: miles from the mouth of the Savannah River in Wassau
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Sound on Tybee Beach. Nobody knows exactly where it hit
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the water. We know it has dropped from a pretty
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: high altitude seventy two hundred feet. No detonation occurred. The
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: B forty seven did land safely, and the search for
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the thing began, a search that remains unsuccessful even now.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, they searched three square miles. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: can only imagine they used Bayesian inference. One would hope
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna name drop that constantly. I'm gonna do that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It definitely makes us sound like smarty pants is or
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: frauds either way.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it just.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be hilarious when we run into someone who
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: has studied it or understands it. Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I mean even the description that I read off of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: wiki whatever, I completely can't wrap my head around.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So they search for this, and regardless of what methods
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: they use, they come up with bup gus and by
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: April sixteenth, nineteen fifty eight, get this. They give up.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: They say, They just say, well, you know, Savannah is fine.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It seems that way.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Let's just leave well enough alone what he said. Let's
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: go chrit semescargo at the pirates house.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Let's get smescargo. Let's go dance in the Weeping Willows
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with the Spanish most.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go watch Midnight in the Garden of Good
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and Evil and other Savannah reference.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Let's see.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the weird Let's go to some
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of the weird history museums. There's a few there are.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's a very historic, beautiful street brun great real brunch city,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: oh my god, and thankfully one that has not yet
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: been wiped off the map by this buried nuke.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so go get those eggs, Benedict. Gather ye eggs, Benedict,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: while you may so, Okay, people have been searching for
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: this for a while. It's nineteen ninety eight. There's a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: retired military officer and his partner who decide they are
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: going to discover this bomb. They're gonna find it for
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the guts, for the glory, right, And they interview the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: pilot who originally jettisoned it. They interviewed all the people
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: they could find who searched for the bomb. Decades ago,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and they said, all right, it's got to be somewhere
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: with saw sound. And for years they just went back
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and forth by via boat. They had a Geiger counter
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: behind them, hoping they could find.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: There.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It is, Oh no, just a little bit max to say,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, just a little bit. But anyways,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: so they their thought is pretty solid. They say, okay,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: if we detect us spike and radiation from the Geiger
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: counter on the boat, that will help us find what
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we're looking for. And one day they find it in
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the spot the pilot had described. There's a patch with
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: radiation ten times the level of anywhere else. Makes that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: clickie clickie sound. Right, the clickety clackety right of the witch.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I just rewatched the Witch.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Excellent picture.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think those twins were witches?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Well, they were at very least under the sway of
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the witch.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And the degree. Yeah, I think that's right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So at this point the government intervenes and sends out
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a cracked team of investigators to check out the scene,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately they didn't find the nuclear weapon. It turns
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: out that this was as there was this clickety clackety
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: they were talking about, was as a result of naturally
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: occurring radiation from seabed minerals.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, I didn't see that coming, No, I didn't.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: That's a world twist. Makes you reconsider swimming, but it
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: sure does.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Like what if you just end up over a pocket
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: of radioactive seabed minerals.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Random, Yeah, radiation emitting minerals. So that's a heck of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a red herring. And that's that's a real uh, that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a real bummer. There have been more and more official
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: attempts to locate this, most recently in two thousand and four. Again,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: as we said at the top, none have succeeded. The
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Air Force believes that thankfully, the nuclear capsule, the part
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of that makes it a nuclear bomb, was not in
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: this device when it was lost, but no one's really sure.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So right now, when you go get brunch in Savannah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: look out across the water and think about the seventy
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: six hundred pounds Mark fifteen bomb just waiting there Kuthulu
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like in the deep.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Indeed, it slumbers slumbers, yes, and with strange eons, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: death may die.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And so before we end today's episode, we want to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: note again the broken arrowcases we know about are probably
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: there's probably way fraction. Yeah, fraction.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I mean seriously again, because we know how close the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: government likes to play their whoopsies to the vest, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it is only when their hand is forced because of
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: deepclassification that they release any information.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Even then it's.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Usually highly redacted. So surprising that we know what we know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to look at Also, we
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: don't know for sure about even US allies, like other
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: countries also play this close to the chest. What about France?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: What about the United Kingdom? Not to mention things that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: are not part of five eyes, like what about the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Soviet Union? How many do they lose? What about the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: PRC of China? We don't know much which about them,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: We don't have a full accounting. We know that the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: biggest mystery there is going to be the Soviet Union's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: nuclear past. They had a stockpile of forty five thousand
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons as of nineteen eighty six, and we know
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that there are cases where the Soviet Union lost nukes
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that has yet to retrieve. But unlike with the US incidents,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the ones we know about occurred in submarines, which makes
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it way trickier to figure out what happened. To them.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And then also because the ocean's a dynamic environment, these
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: subs can drift after they disappear. In nineteen sixty eight,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: a Soviet K one nine sank in the Pacific Ocean
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just northwest of Hawaii with three nuclear missiles, and they
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: there's a whole other story here. I think it's its
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: own episode, absolutely, yeah, because this they said, we're going
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to try to retrieve this and see and they contact
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Howard Hughes, like billionaire Tony starkish Howard Hughes before he
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: goes full crazy, and they say, you need to pretend
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to be interested in deep sea mining. And it's also
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about this on stuff they want.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's right. Yeah, gosh, the old brain cloud
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: is starting to set in at the end of the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: day here, but it does ring a bell.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And I think we should, you know what, This is
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: such a strange story. I think we're gonna save this
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: one and maybe explore it in the future. And let's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: ring the bell on the episode. What do you say?
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, remain in DAWs.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Remain in DAWs.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Grab your newspaper and cover your head.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Queen's Broadcast. You know, it's funny, just
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: just one last little thing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I wasn't looking up duck and Cover because I sort
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of misspoke, I think conflating.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I mean the eighties.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: You know, obviously there was a period during the Cold
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: War where nuclear attack was definitely still top of mind
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: for a lot of For sure, duck and cover the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: original propaganda video we're talking about with YOURDLD, the turtle
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: From the fifties.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But I found an article saying how the intent and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the actual result of a lot of those videos was
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: just to have people remain indoors, to shelter in place,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you know, and that you could actually just by not
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: going outside ultimately save a lot of lives.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: You could.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And also, did you clock what I was referring to?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I said, welcome to the quiz broadcast made indoors.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Well, remain indoors is just from Michelin wellt Yes, yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the quiz broadcast is.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So it's really really great.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They're always referring to the event.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, don't think about the event exactly, and they're
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: always trying to guess at remnants of human civilism. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: want to rewatch that, but for now I think We're
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: going to roll out some thank yous, a cavalcade of
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: thank yous to super producer Max kill Aton Williams, also
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: our research associate for this series. Who else stole? Who else?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: The j man old chromedome himself? Are our broken Arrow?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Oh he had longer hair? Yeah, our broken era Yeah?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh yeah. Jonathan Strickland, the aka the Quist. Wait
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: did we say his name?
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Freak?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: You said the whole thing while looking into a mirror,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: because technically this glass here is a mirror, and I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: believe you just spun around in your seat in reverse
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: a few times. So what does it mean, Ben? What
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: does it mean?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Well, it means when need to wrap up this outro
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: quick fast and in a hurry or else. Oh it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Jonathan strickly Ak, the Wuister. How could this happen? How
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: could this happen?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like that you ever read The Mangler
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: by Stephen k You know how that the the laundry
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: machine becomes possessed because somebody accident spills their jello into hemlock.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And it's just this exact perfect storm of Oopsie's sorry
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that we've been talking about today.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop using that term.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: This is what happened with you. We looked into the mirror,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: we said your name three times or something, and then
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Ben spun around his chair backwards and here you are.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: Look me and uh, bloody Mary and Candy Man been waiting,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: We've been snacking waiting and uh it's been been a
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: real good time. How are they they could we're all
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: we've all been at Pont City Market. No one told
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: us that you moved, and uh that's floor is really
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: there's a different group there. They are not as much fun.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was by design man. Yeah, but you've outwitted
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: us and found our new office clearly with no help
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: from many one.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Know it's it took me a long time to walk here.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: It is not convenient.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And I mean those healings really helped you.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: To see you see him scoot I see.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll say this that ever since the cab avenue,
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: they've repaved it and they got rid of that that
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: suicide lane. Yeah, that's really helped out quite a bit.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Like it really a smooth out. But I can just
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: take that all the way up to Marrietta Street.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You've gotta you've got to tell us, Jonathan, Sure, long time,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: listeners will know that this is what you've described as
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the most cringe worthy segment in podcasting.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: That's your description, it is, in fact my description.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: What is the quister? What is what is this thing
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that's happened? It's been like, how long has it been? No?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I mean possibly a year, possibly more than.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Me a year?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Is I think so? And that's again yeah, I mean
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: he just nowhere to find it. I thought we mentioned
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you every episode though, which is part of me. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: think part of both of us.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Missed you a little bit.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I missed you, guys.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So much like the way you miss a tumor is
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: sort of.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, or you know, you miss it when you when
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: you have a tooth knocked out and you can't help
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: but put your tongue in the root and just root around,
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: even though it kind of hurts too, you sort of
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: still have to do it, Or.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Like when you're trying to shoot someone and you miss
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I have missed you several times.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Or like when you talk to a reporter and you
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: explain that your whole tactic is to hold out until
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: October and all the riders are no longer able to
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: pay mortgages and rent and then you can force them
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: to come back to your own terms like that, kind
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: of like.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: That swinging a miss, swinging a miss, because there are
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: some levels of villainy that even you, the quizt would
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: not see.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah that's low, man, that's pretty low. Yeah. So this segment,
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: I guess to finally get around to answering your question.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, is when I the quizz stir
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Stricklett appear and quiz the two of you upon
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: something possibly tangentially related to the episode topic at hand,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: No promise, And I give you three scenarios oh boy,
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: two mean goose pot, two of which i'll reeal in
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: one which I made up. Season it is your duty
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: to find the one I made up. And and I decided,
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: since you were talking about arrows what had been broken
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: and nuclear packages what had been misplaced, that I would
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: go with sort of a precursor what used to be
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: considered one of the big weapons of the military age,
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: far before nuclear age, and that would be ships.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Ships.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: So the three scenarios which you'll be presented are all
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: about ships what sunk. So I will read out the
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: scenarios and then at the end I will give you
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: the arbitrary rule I use where you can ask me
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: a question, but you have to follow the arbitrary rule
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: before before I'll accept it. All right, So here we go.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Here are the scenarios. Come here the sad tale of
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: the Jumpin' Java, an ill fated ship originally belonging to
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: the Cunard Line. The jumpin Java reportedly got its name
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: for the way the ship responded to particular choppy seas,
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: and it did not enjoy a positive reputation. But that
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: reputation absolutely sunk when the Java did as well in
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: eighteen ninety five while on a voyage from San Francisco
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: to New York. Of course, by then it was called
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: the Lord Spencer of Jay Heron and Company, having undergone
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: multiple name changes over the years. Scenario two listen unto me.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: The Morning Star was a ship originally launched by the
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: British at Calcutta in eighteen thirteen, but her tenure was
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: not long. She sadly met her and in eighteen fourteen,
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: wrecking off the coast of Queensland. Later, another ship called
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: the Eliza found five survivors marooned on wait for it,
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Booby Island.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And get this, but the Booby's like it's a bird, right, Yes, yes,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they ruined something.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: They explained that their captain, whose name I am not
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: kidding was Robert Smart, had left earlier in a longboat
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: with some men to row to time more. Only they
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: never made it. So out of the crew of more
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: than thirty, only five are known to have survived. The
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Morning Stars eighteen fourteen voyage scenario three. Hawk and hear
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: the Sad Tale of the Campania.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: No hark, not hocket.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: Hawk and here the Sad Tale of the Campania. A
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: ship that took inspiration from luxury liners such as the Titanic,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: but before she was to be fitted for luxury she
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: had a more morbid purpose. The ship's maiden voyage was
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: to transport soldiers remains post World War One from Turkey
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: after the Brits had failed to invade Gallipoli. She would
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: never get the chance to serve as a true luxury liner,
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: as the ship hit wreckage off the coast of Southampton
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: and sunk. All hands aboard were accounted for as survivors,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: and yet the dead numbered the living. Of course, that
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: had been true since they had left Port.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Oh come, oh Come, And now that seems like a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: real potential for a ghost ship pretty good.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: So the.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Arbitrary rule this time, if you do wish to ask
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: me a question while you're deliberating, is that you must
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: quote some sea shanty beforehand. You don't have to sing it,
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: but you do.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Have to quote it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: We got what was the one? We got this? Well?
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: We got weller soon made the welleman come to bring
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: us sugar into.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: So Okay, so we have three minutes is how that's.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: Usually how it goes. I don't remember. It's been a
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: long time.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna we thankfully got the grandfather he brought
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it over. Yeah, great expense, which is true because it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like ninety percent of our budget every year just to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: mate it. So we're gonna run over here and start
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: this and go okay, okay, I'm gonna be honest.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I think I know which one I thinks. I think
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it's two. Oh you think too is not true? I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: think two is. Oh wait, I think two is true.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Just completely zoning out. When I was spinning elbow.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I was listening, I was soaking it in. What can
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: you do the singing thing for me?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I don't remember how.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: It goes.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Soon me the wellaman, come, uh, do you realize how
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: badly you don't played yourself?
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: How's that?
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: The quizter? The jump in Java?
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: Are you kidding? That's a coffee house? It is, in
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: fact a coffee house.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Sometimes names come from other things. Sometimes someone takes a
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: name and then they'll reuse that name names from Allow
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: me to introduce you to the concept of the British monarchy.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Your game mark is making me question my question.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe you're right, maybe that is the wrong one.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Is that the one you walked through?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: It was way easier to miss you when you were gone?
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: How can I miss you if you never leave?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: So?
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, you can do we know? All right?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: So uh mister Bowlin.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So in scenario three.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: Yes, scenario three the Campania.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: The US fails to conquer, like the fails in the
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: conflict with Turkey.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Well, it was really the UK.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: It was the UK.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: The Brits attempted to invade the the Gallipoli the peninsula
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: of Gliboli in Turkey to get an area of operations,
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: but the Turks were able to repel them at great cost.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Because they were beefed with the Ottomans.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Well, it was more that it was just trying to
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: find another way to perhaps lessen the incredible pressure of
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: the Western Front where things were not going well. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: don't know if you know about World War One, but
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Western Front was pretty rough.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Hey man, I don't like your attitude. You can't talk
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: to Ben like that.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: There are numbers to world wars.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: Well not at the time. They called it the Great War.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: They want so pessimistic as to call it World War
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: One while it was happening.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: They're learning so much.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: What is a war? Really? You don't know what a
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: war is.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I have no clue. I don't even speaking child.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: What are you?
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Why are you doing that? You're just wasting time? Now,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: that's true.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Happy to do it? The war?
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: When when a when a mommy nation and the daddy
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: nation really hate each other?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, put it out there.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident. Yeah, jumping job, I give me.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You think it's one? Yeah, all right, I got your back.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Let's look.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: The idea of a jumping coffee bean is so corny
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and hokey. I do not believe that it is a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: construction of the past that was then repurposed by coffee shop.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: All right, well we are at.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Time, so, uh there's the weirdest grandfather ever.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Again, it's very expensive.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: It's a custom job to grandfather's clock, for sure.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So uh well, we'll maybe have Max put in a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: more prestigious so my grandfather clock. Uh no, I've got
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: your back. Let's lock it in. Three. Two what scenario one?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: We'll go it with.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: It feels so good to be back on.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: So what.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: One is true? It was a jumping Java. It was
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: officially named the Java, but passengers referred to it as
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: the Jumping Java. There was also there was sized jumping Java.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: In fact, yes, it's what it was called. And then
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: it was for a while the SS Zealand it moved
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: to the Red Star Line, not the White Star, the
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Red Star Line, and then it was known as the
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Electric before finally becoming Lord Spencer.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Was this scenario three?
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: That was three is taken from a Japanese anime, And
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: it absolutely is not true.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I knew it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I am so sorry. I feel like you absolutely fool.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I was so confident about it. I'm not gonna lie
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: to you, guys. I'm gonna go ahead and cop to something.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I googled jump in Java and all I.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Got was coffee shop.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is why this is what if you
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: typed in Java eighteen sixty five you would find the
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: ship referra.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done that. That would have been a
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: bridge too far.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's worth it, though, because we got that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: awesome line from the quizz which is sometimes names come
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: from other things, which was just peak snart.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: I mean it really is if every name out there
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: has only been used to one and one time.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Only, So you know what this means.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: You see where I'm coming from, though, guys, I mean this,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: these these goofy coffee shop names like just sentience Bean,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or like the I literally
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: saw one that was called Cafe Campusino a million percent,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean that jittery Joe's frankly quister. It was a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: stroke of brilliance because you really that was a very
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: good red herring.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Mugshot is a great name for a coffee place.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: That's a fantastic you can get in a mug or
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: as a shot, right right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Uh So with that, gentleman, Max, you're part of this
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: decision as well. I proposed to you, guys that we
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: start a new chapter in the quistor beef, and we start.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: We read, and so you're ahead one one not I think.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: I think without that I would have been maybe two
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: or perhaps even three behind.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: You think I thought we were going to propose.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Since we're talking about lost nukes, like losing Jonathan in
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: the bottom of a Mediterranean sea or something, I.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Feel like legally that counts as either hate speech or
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: a threat.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Also, what do you think of the name Chrome Doom.
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan of it. I mean, it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: I'll respond to it, because honestly.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: People.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: Offensive as long as I get attention, really.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Whatever it takes.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: A true story. Once I was at a grocery store
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: and a little boy turned to his mother and said
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: that man has no hair and pointed at me, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: she was mortified, and I said, trust me, this is
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: not how I learned.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Well. Plus, we live in Atlanta, where I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: always try to explain this to people who are not
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: from this country or this this part of this country,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: especially if you're from a place like Scandinavia or small
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: talk's not really a thing, you know. I always have
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to make it clear to my friends, like, hey, when
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you come to this city. Strangers are going to talk
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to you as though they're vaguely related to you. Everybody
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: kind of is going to treat you like a first
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: or second cousin.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: We take that for granted. I think living here and also,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: but you know, I think you and I are the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: three of us. The four of us are in other
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: cities and other parts of the universe enough to see
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: places where that is just not the case that all
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: people make contact.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: But here you'll have you'll you'll be walking down like
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: our old alma matter of post lea or something, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: someone might be This happened to me. This is the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: true story. I was walking home from work in our
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: old office one day and a person I've never seen
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: before since it was like.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Kubrick, Kubrick, like Stanley Kubrick.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And so finally I turned and he was like, yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that's a nice fit man, you look like a director
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: full metal jacket.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Was good.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Like, I think it's just because I had a cardigan. Okay,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it's really for his cardigan. No, it doesn't make any sense,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And that's just the kind of city we live in.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: So hopefully I say all that to say, hopefully, Jonathan
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: think it was not trying to.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: Be a not at all. He was just surprised. And
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: again it didn't didn't bother me at all. It was
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: an observation that happens to be true. I don't base
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: my identity off my folicular deficiencies.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: There we go, Well, we do.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: Well, that's fair considering how I just trounced you.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: All right, that's the spirit. So now that now we
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: are officially uh what we've we've turned the tables. No,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to summon the quiztor again. So we
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: because you know what, bro this injustice will not.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Stand, no question about it. I'm ready to bring our
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: a game. And it does seem like now since the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: questor knows where our physical location is, that this might
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: be happening a little more frequently.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I embrace yourselves.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be realistic and say, like, let's aim for
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: a B plus game and maybe we'll impress ourselves.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: That's fine. Listen, there's like a Fox Brothers right next door,
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: So I am cool coming in as often as I
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: need to. They got great smoked chicken wings. I don't
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: know if you know, but man, Fox Withers is great.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been talking a lot about restaurants this week.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: Well, I am trying to narrow cast the show. Did
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: you not know that I am narrow casting as hard
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: as I can so that only people not just in Atlanta,
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: but a very specific wedge of Atlanta will get the references.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually gonna have a little date night with
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: my lady tonight, so I'm gonna maybe try something new.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: But thank you, yeahs, Ben, thank you, thank you NOL
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: for this nuclear fantastic voyage that we've taken together.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And also with you Max Williams. Thanks, of course, I
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: think we said it earlier to Alex Williams. Thanks to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: everybody for tuning in. That's the week for us. We
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: hope you have a great weekend and we can't wait
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: for you to join us next week when we put
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: some animals on trial.
• 49:25
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