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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
- 0:17Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff, Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully everyone
- 0:21Speaker 1: is doing well. I think this is the longest Sunday
- 0:23Speaker 1: of my football career. I woke up right as Dom
- 0:29Speaker 1: was escorting Jeremiah Trotter Jr., the son, to the locker
- 0:34Speaker 1: room getting ejected. Watched that game, then watched the next
- 0:39Speaker 1: sets of games in the morning and the afternoon, then
- 0:41Speaker 1: the night game, recorded a podcast with Coward. Now we're
- 0:45Speaker 1: going to record a podcast on the Sunday night game.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Props to Snoop Huntley. My man got hot. Fighting Utah Utes.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Some thoughts there. The Falcons and everything that transpired today.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Coaching blunders. The Niners-Seattle game. Ben Johnson, a little humble
- 1:05Speaker 1: pie from LeFleur. Don't sleep on the Vikings. They're playing
- 1:12Speaker 1: some ball. 5-0. What else? We got a lot going
- 1:16Speaker 1: on today. Mike Ditka, RIP. Just a couple quick college thoughts,
- 1:22Speaker 1: and we'll get ready for the big Monday night football game,
- 1:25Speaker 1: Bills at the Rams, which is a fantastic Monday night game.
- 1:31Speaker 1: And my Sooners, well, I adopted them about a decade ago.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Got a big win against Texas in the Red River.
- 1:38Speaker 1: So you guys know the drill. I recorded a podcast
- 1:41Speaker 1: with Colin. You can hear that on the feed. If
- 1:44Speaker 1: you listen on the feed to hear this podcast, subscribe
- 1:47Speaker 1: to 3 and Out. We're up on Netflix. I did
- 1:50Speaker 1: an instant reaction video on YouTube right after the Niner-Seattle
- 1:53Speaker 1: game as well. So you can check that out. And
- 1:58Speaker 1: let's just dive right into the Fighting Ravens without Lamar.
- 2:05Speaker 1: And I think the most fascinating thing about backup quarterback
- 2:09Speaker 1: play is some individuals get overhyped because the coach really
- 2:15Speaker 1: likes them. And part of being a backup quarterback... is
- 2:20Speaker 1: like your character and who you are as a person,
- 2:23Speaker 1: because you don't play, starts to outweigh what you actually
- 2:28Speaker 1: play like. Because as a head coach, especially a lot
- 2:31Speaker 1: of these head coaches are now play callers, spend so
- 2:35Speaker 1: much time around that human being. And it's easy. It's like,
- 2:39Speaker 1: look at all these backup quarterbacks. They're really easy to like.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And then they have to play as people. They're just
- 2:46Speaker 1: usually married, first guy in the building, great teammates, know
- 2:51Speaker 1: the security guard and the cafeteria worker. They're just guys
- 2:54Speaker 1: that if they weren't doing what they were doing, it's like, ah,
- 2:57Speaker 1: they'd probably be the CEO at the bank. They're just
- 3:01Speaker 1: high-level cats. But there's NFL football. It's like, can you
- 3:05Speaker 1: actually play? And so a lot of them get the
- 3:08Speaker 1: opportunity to play And then they struggle. And some of
- 3:12Speaker 1: these guys are former failed starters that transition. But Huntley
- 3:18Speaker 1: is just, you're rare. I watched him in college for Whittingham,
- 3:23Speaker 1: and I never thought in a million years he could
- 3:25Speaker 1: play in the NFL. And then if you're just watching
- 3:28Speaker 1: him at a certain time when he's filling in for Lamar,
- 3:31Speaker 1: which is a problem for the Ravens. I know they
- 3:34Speaker 1: won tonight, and it's a fantastic win. But the gap,
- 3:39Speaker 1: and this is the same, you know, Mahomes, Josh Allen.
- 3:42Speaker 1: It's like when Steph Curry's out for the Warriors. It's
- 3:45Speaker 1: like if they're playing a real team, they don't have
- 3:47Speaker 1: a snowball chance in hell. Like this thing's over before
- 3:51Speaker 1: it even begins. And it feels like that with Lamar,
- 3:54Speaker 1: the gap when Snoop or they've had other backup quarterbacks
- 3:57Speaker 1: over the years. Snoop's been there for a while. It's
- 4:00Speaker 1: like this is pretty dramatic. Because I think if Lamar
- 4:04Speaker 1: plays tonight, they win that game by 10 points pretty easily.
- 4:07Speaker 1: You know, we're in control of the game instead of
- 4:09Speaker 1: playing catch-up. And listen, he had some balls dropped on him.
- 4:13Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, and being the backup for Lamar
- 4:17Speaker 1: is like, you probably aren't just going to have Mac
- 4:19Speaker 1: Jones as your backup. It's always weird with the Eagles
- 4:21Speaker 1: who just cut Andy Dalton, partly because they're going to
- 4:24Speaker 1: keep Lane Johnson in the 53 so they can not
- 4:27Speaker 1: eat the dead cap. You have to talk to a capologist,
- 4:30Speaker 1: but clearly they got rid of Andy Dalton. And for
- 4:34Speaker 1: other guys, Andy Dalton's not going to be Lamar's backup.
- 4:37Speaker 1: So Snoop Huntley is like... The way, way shittier version
- 4:42Speaker 1: of Lamar. And if you're watching a certain series like
- 4:44Speaker 1: this guy is not very good. No feel for the pocket.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Just not a very good player. And then the games
- 4:51Speaker 1: on the line on the road against a team who
- 4:54Speaker 1: over the last two weeks has looked like a 100%
- 4:56Speaker 1: playoff team. Leads him right down to the field for
- 4:59Speaker 1: a touchdown. Send him into overtime. It was like, did
- 5:03Speaker 1: he really just do that? And then in overtime, boom,
- 5:07Speaker 1: right down the field for the game winner. You're like,
- 5:12Speaker 1: how did this just happen? And I think sometimes, and
- 5:15Speaker 1: it used to be like this when I worked in
- 5:17Speaker 1: personnel and I talked to my buddies. Sometimes you get
- 5:20Speaker 1: buttheads with coaches because they really value, listen, this guy
- 5:25Speaker 1: fits our system slash we really like this guy. And
- 5:29Speaker 1: personnel people by nature, it's like a dude who hits
- 5:33Speaker 1: the clubs or the bars every night. You're always looking
- 5:35Speaker 1: for the next best thing. Like you're always trying to upgrade.
- 5:40Speaker 1: literally the job of a front office. But there's a
- 5:43Speaker 1: balance of like the right type people in your building
- 5:45Speaker 1: and not every player upgrade is necessarily an upgrade because
- 5:49Speaker 1: maybe he lacks the intangibles. But for whatever reason, Huntley
- 5:55Speaker 1: with the Ravens I mean, just kind of works. And
- 5:58Speaker 1: I think if you put him anywhere else, like for
- 6:02Speaker 1: as bad as Hurts is, you'd go, yeah, there's some similarities.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Like could Huntley just be Hurts' backup? If you think
- 6:08Speaker 1: the Eagles offense is bad with Jalen, if you put
- 6:10Speaker 1: Huntley there, they could have a game where they had
- 6:13Speaker 1: negative yards. Like total. Over the 60 minutes. So it's
- 6:18Speaker 1: just incredible, the fit, clearly the intangibles, right? Because it's
- 6:23Speaker 1: not like John Harbaugh's long gone. Declan Doyle's his coach.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And when push came to shove, the organizational competitive character
- 6:33Speaker 1: that they've built for 25 years just shows itself. And
- 6:38Speaker 1: he's a guy that they've developed over the years that
- 6:40Speaker 1: just fits in. And no matter what you're saying about
- 6:42Speaker 1: him or tweeting about him in the middle of the game,
- 6:45Speaker 1: When all the cards were on the table and everything's
- 6:50Speaker 1: on the line, he just came through. He flipped a
- 6:55Speaker 1: royal flush and got them a massive win, and now
- 6:58Speaker 1: they're 4-1. Anytime you win when you have one of
- 7:00Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the league who's on the side
- 7:03Speaker 1: in street clothes, which again, they're going to have to
- 7:06Speaker 1: find a way, big picture. I thought Lamar was playing
- 7:09Speaker 1: so well this season. of just keeping them on the
- 7:12Speaker 1: field because they're clearly really dangerous. One of the reasons,
- 7:15Speaker 1: and I took the Ravens tonight, is I'm like, well,
- 7:18Speaker 1: Jesse Minter's so good that he's just going to be
- 7:21Speaker 1: able to slow down Bijon. And I was texting with
- 7:24Speaker 1: an assistant coach earlier this week, and his team played Bijon.
- 7:29Speaker 1: And he was telling me, this is an offensive coach,
- 7:32Speaker 1: but he's like, even if I was, I don't know
- 7:35Speaker 1: what you can really call, he's that good. He thought
- 7:37Speaker 1: he was the best player in the league. And you
- 7:40Speaker 1: could argue against them. He kind of was. But, you know,
- 7:43Speaker 1: you watch him tonight. When Jesse Minter, a lead defensive coach,
- 7:46Speaker 1: he's not going to run for 180. And he didn't. Now,
- 7:50Speaker 1: it could have been worse if Penix would have hit
- 7:52Speaker 1: him on the little dump off, you know, late in
- 7:54Speaker 1: the game when, you know, you pressured him. And that's,
- 7:57Speaker 1: you know, the one thing you see with Penix is like,
- 8:00Speaker 1: clearly he is, I don't know where if he peaked,
- 8:05Speaker 1: he would end up in the league like, Could he
- 8:08Speaker 1: ever get to like the DAC, Jared Goff? Probably not.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Could he be like what Tua was pre-concussions? When we
- 8:15Speaker 1: all acknowledge like this guy's a starter who can take
- 8:18Speaker 1: you to the playoffs, probably put him in there. And
- 8:19Speaker 1: I was a pro-Penix guy. But once I see you
- 8:24Speaker 1: against NFL people and just for whatever reason, like, He
- 8:28Speaker 1: clearly got hit really hard. I'm not trying to be
- 8:30Speaker 1: a hard-o. But if you just watch football today, Saturday,
- 8:35Speaker 1: the entire season, a lot of quarterbacks get tackled like that.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And one major question mark with him, twice so many
- 8:43Speaker 1: people I knew on the scouting trails, that I'd be like, yeah,
- 8:47Speaker 1: this was before he went eighth. But I was like,
- 8:49Speaker 1: I think he's a first-rounder. Most of my friends who
- 8:52Speaker 1: have Super Bowl rigs, they're like, bro, I wouldn't touch
- 8:56Speaker 1: this guy in the first round. And it all got
- 8:58Speaker 1: back to, he had a million injuries. He was just
- 9:01Speaker 1: not a very durable player throughout the course of his career.
- 9:05Speaker 1: And you watch him tonight, like, he gets hurt, and
- 9:10Speaker 1: they unravel. Tua's got to come in, and in overtime,
- 9:12Speaker 1: he throws a pick, which felt like one of the
- 9:15Speaker 1: most predictable things you will ever see. And I would
- 9:18Speaker 1: say their quarterback room, because of the question mark of, like,
- 9:22Speaker 1: how many games Michael Panik's going to be able to play?
- 9:24Speaker 1: And even Collinsworth and Tirico said it, like, that... The
- 9:28Speaker 1: question mark with this guy, because he's proven, like, he's
- 9:30Speaker 1: a solid NFL player. Can he just stay on the field?
- 9:34Speaker 1: And then when he's finally on the field, it's like, God,
- 9:36Speaker 1: he's kind of just getting his career going. Can't even
- 9:40Speaker 1: finish the game because he gets lit up. And then
- 9:42Speaker 1: it's just like, did he just break his ribs? Is
- 9:43Speaker 1: now he going to miss a ton of games? Are
- 9:44Speaker 1: they going to have to start Tua? They will not
- 9:47Speaker 1: win any games without Tua. No team in the league
- 9:51Speaker 1: who could be a playoff team. Maybe I'm wrong. I
- 9:54Speaker 1: have to do a deeper dive on this. But I
- 9:57Speaker 1: don't feel there's a bigger drop off to like Pennix
- 10:00Speaker 1: is in there's a solid team they could win 9-10
- 10:03Speaker 1: games they're clearly pretty solid right we all agree with
- 10:05Speaker 1: that when Pennix is playing you remove Pennix you'll be
- 10:08Speaker 1: like I'll pick them to lose every week like if
- 10:11Speaker 1: you tell me I don't even know who they're playing
- 10:12Speaker 1: next week but like if two is their starter we'll
- 10:15Speaker 1: all just pick them to lose right Whether they're playing
- 10:18Speaker 1: the Bills or the Niners or, well, the Titans. We'd
- 10:22Speaker 1: have a discussion on that one. But just middle-of-the-road team, right?
- 10:26Speaker 1: You would pick them to lose. And it's a problem.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I was wondering if Collinsworth, because I was eating dinner inside,
- 10:33Speaker 1: and I usually record a little inside baseball. Do a
- 10:38Speaker 1: bunch of recording. By the time I got off, even tonight,
- 10:40Speaker 1: it was like mid-second quarter. So I usually go into
- 10:44Speaker 1: the house, sit down, see the family, have a game on,
- 10:47Speaker 1: eat dinner probably after halftime. And Collinsworth dropped a, Drake
- 10:53Speaker 1: London reminds me so much of Mike Evans. And my wife,
- 10:56Speaker 1: who loves the 49ers, she's like, he's like Mike Evans?
- 11:00Speaker 1: I'm like, I said he was like Mike Evans. That
- 11:02Speaker 1: was my comp. Which is a good comp. I like
- 11:05Speaker 1: Drake Lennon a lot. And the problem for him is
- 11:07Speaker 1: if Penix isn't playing, I don't know if the ball
- 11:10Speaker 1: is going to find him as much. So congrats to
- 11:13Speaker 1: the Ravens. That was a gritty... That was impressive. You know,
- 11:18Speaker 1: your backup quarterback on the road. Place was rocking. You're down.
- 11:23Speaker 1: You must have drive. And they just got it done.
- 11:26Speaker 1: So I was... I didn't have the Ravens making the
- 11:29Speaker 1: playoffs when the season started. If Lamar's healthy, they're clearly
- 11:34Speaker 1: a playoff team. And if Huntley's got to play, I mean,
- 11:38Speaker 1: they could lose any game, but they could also win them.
- 11:40Speaker 1: They're just a complete unknown. And I got a lot
- 11:42Speaker 1: of respect for that guy. I really do. Because not
- 11:45Speaker 1: in a million years when I was watching him play
- 11:47Speaker 1: at Utah, I would have envisioned that. That was a
- 11:51Speaker 1: long time ago. Definitely not envisioned this many years into
- 11:54Speaker 1: his career. There's something to be said. We talk a
- 11:57Speaker 1: lot about organizations. It's a powerful thing. We've all been
- 12:02Speaker 1: young people after college, after high school. Your environments really
- 12:07Speaker 1: shape you. Most human beings, I've said this forever, are
- 12:10Speaker 1: not leaders. Most people don't just like graduate college and go,
- 12:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna start my own company, right? Even if you
- 12:17Speaker 1: end up with an entrepreneurial side to you, you usually
- 12:21Speaker 1: get your feet wet and figure things out. Most people
- 12:23Speaker 1: don't have the balls, the self-assurance, just the, I would say,
- 12:31Speaker 1: the cojones. I'm gonna take some balls. Most of us
- 12:34Speaker 1: just kind of follow early on and the majority of
- 12:37Speaker 1: us our whole life. And I'm just blown away by
- 12:43Speaker 1: the culture that the Ravens create of a bunch of badasses.
- 12:47Speaker 1: They've been doing it for a long time. Let's dive in.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Let's fire around the league because a lot happened today. Overall, today,
- 12:58Speaker 1: if you remove Niners Seattle... And the endings of like Jags, Eagles,
- 13:07Speaker 1: and I'll give the Giants commanders the fourth quarter. Steelers-Colts
- 13:13Speaker 1: was not bad. Jalen Warren made that pretty exciting. A
- 13:17Speaker 1: lot of bad football today. I mean, there was Jets-Browns.
- 13:22Speaker 1: If you aren't a fan of either one of those
- 13:24Speaker 1: two teams and didn't have anyone in fantasy and didn't
- 13:26Speaker 1: gamble on the game, You will never know that game happened.
- 13:30Speaker 1: They can erase that from NFL films. Titans, Texans, I mean,
- 13:36Speaker 1: today was rough. But it is going to be defined
- 13:40Speaker 1: by two endings, two games. We'll dive into the Niners,
- 13:46Speaker 1: Seattle here in a second. I did, it's a reaction,
- 13:48Speaker 1: we threw that up on the YouTube page on Sunday
- 13:52Speaker 1: night at halftime of the Sunday night game. But, I
- 13:56Speaker 1: do think that Sirianni, we'll start with him, because I
- 14:00Speaker 1: actually think Sirianni's was the less egregious of the two
- 14:04Speaker 1: NFC coaches, which were both pretty insane. One was Dan
- 14:09Speaker 1: Quinn's fireable offense. If by the time you're listening to this,
- 14:13Speaker 1: if Dan Quinn is unemployed, would make total sense. That
- 14:17Speaker 1: is something that gets people fired who are already on
- 14:20Speaker 1: the hot seat. That wouldn't get John Harbaugh fired. it
- 14:25Speaker 1: wouldn't get Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay fired. But if
- 14:28Speaker 1: you are on shaky ground, that is like a major
- 14:33Speaker 1: earthquake coming, splitting it and you falling down and it
- 14:36Speaker 1: being over. But I want to start with Sirianni, who...
- 14:41Speaker 1: The Eagles are a really tough watch as well. I mean,
- 14:44Speaker 1: the amount of series they have where it is just
- 14:47Speaker 1: like no yards, negative five yards, two yards... It is
- 14:52Speaker 1: just tough. And I understand they got new offensive linemen
- 14:55Speaker 1: in there. I understand they're missing some key offensive pieces.
- 15:01Speaker 1: But holy cannoli are they just like watching paint dry.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I mean, it is rough. And the tush push is dead.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Like that is just retired. It's just like put that
- 15:15Speaker 1: thing six feet under and it ain't never coming back.
- 15:19Speaker 1: But at the end of the game, with whatever, was
- 15:23Speaker 1: it nine, ten seconds left, when they kicked off, you
- 15:26Speaker 1: can't tell me, especially inside that building, the Cowboys situation
- 15:31Speaker 1: is just top of mind. Even though it's like, well,
- 15:34Speaker 1: that was actually a different situation because they had a timeout.
- 15:39Speaker 1: This is not college. Like anyone that watched a lot
- 15:42Speaker 1: of football, even just yesterday, you get in some of
- 15:45Speaker 1: these late game situations. Even if you only have one timeout,
- 15:49Speaker 1: you actually got more than that because the clock stops
- 15:51Speaker 1: at every first down. Well, even if I kick the
- 15:54Speaker 1: ball out of bounds, so not into the end zone,
- 15:57Speaker 1: I'm talking out of bounds, which I'm pretty sure not
- 15:59Speaker 1: Dean Blandino here, they get the ball at the 40-yard line.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Even if I just shake it out of bounds, you
- 16:04Speaker 1: get the ball at the 40-yard line. I don't think
- 16:07Speaker 1: you can beat me. Because unless I give up like
- 16:10Speaker 1: a 15 yard out route, which I would guard against,
- 16:14Speaker 1: be like, I'll give you a middle of the field completion.
- 16:17Speaker 1: I will tackle you in the middle of the field
- 16:19Speaker 1: and you won't be able to get up on the
- 16:21Speaker 1: line and spike it. You won't have enough time. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: obviously Sirianni wore it because how could he not? It's
- 16:27Speaker 1: clearly his mistake. Jake Elliott, I saw the clip said
- 16:30Speaker 1: after the game that I just did what I was
- 16:31Speaker 1: told to do. And it's just one of those that
- 16:37Speaker 1: I do wonder, we talk a lot about players with this.
- 16:40Speaker 1: When I recorded the podcast earlier today with Colin, we
- 16:43Speaker 1: talked a lot about Drake May. And I heard this
- 16:47Speaker 1: saying a long time ago. When you have confidence, you
- 16:50Speaker 1: never feel like you're going to lose it. Especially with
- 16:53Speaker 1: young players. And once it's gone, you never feel like
- 16:56Speaker 1: it's coming back. And it can ebb and flow fast.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I think most human beings in most roles... especially pressure-packed roles,
- 17:06Speaker 1: public roles. Isn't that kind of true? Like, you gain
- 17:11Speaker 1: confidence through having success when things are going well. Now,
- 17:17Speaker 1: once you hit a little adversity, if you have a
- 17:20Speaker 1: lot of experience having success and having confidence, you can
- 17:23Speaker 1: reach back on that and not lose it and battle through. Right?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Kalen Dubor losing that game to Kirby. It's not going
- 17:31Speaker 1: to derail their season. Or if Kirby had lost. Not
- 17:34Speaker 1: going to ruin him. Whoever lost over Kyle Shanahan and
- 17:38Speaker 1: Mike McDonald today in the game, it's not going to
- 17:40Speaker 1: derail their season. But you can't convince me that it's
- 17:44Speaker 1: Sirianni now. Because, I don't know if you saw these clips,
- 17:48Speaker 1: there's like El Nino coming in. And it was actually
- 17:52Speaker 1: raining when I walked out to the office after the
- 17:53Speaker 1: Sunday night game. Or before the game, like coming from overtime.
- 17:57Speaker 1: So the hurricane is actually working its way up to Arizona,
- 18:01Speaker 1: up to Vegas. And there were these clips on like
- 18:05Speaker 1: Saturday of these huge waves in like Long Beach, Laguna Beach,
- 18:11Speaker 1: Newport Beach getting crushed because of the storm. And I
- 18:17Speaker 1: think anytime you get the storm wave, the power of it, right,
- 18:21Speaker 1: of negativity when it comes to a coach, like LaFleur
- 18:25Speaker 1: kind of just put a Band-Aid on that right now
- 18:28Speaker 1: that stopped all the bleeding. Now, it doesn't end it all.
- 18:32Speaker 1: But right now, it just stops. You can't say anything.
- 18:34Speaker 1: He just beat the shit out of the Bears. Sirianni
- 18:37Speaker 1: has had this tidal wave of negativity since the middle
- 18:41Speaker 1: of last season. They've changed coaches under him and all,
- 18:47Speaker 1: but he's still the head guy. He's still the guy
- 18:49Speaker 1: that does a press conference. Conference call Monday, press conference Wednesday,
- 18:53Speaker 1: press conference Friday, press conference after the game. He literally
- 18:56Speaker 1: speaks for the team all season long. He's the head coach.
- 19:00Speaker 1: So you go off last season when nothing's working. And
- 19:02Speaker 1: you're just a CEO, like Dan Quinn, right? So you're not,
- 19:07Speaker 1: it's not like you're making these crazy moves in game.
- 19:11Speaker 1: You're just not. You're just kind of standing there. But
- 19:14Speaker 1: the result of the game, which is the opposite of
- 19:16Speaker 1: anyone that's watched any of Nick Saban's stuff, and you
- 19:20Speaker 1: don't need to watch the documentary to know his number
- 19:22Speaker 1: one thing is like a whole thing about football is
- 19:23Speaker 1: the process, the process, the process. Sirianni's success right now
- 19:27Speaker 1: is all determined by Off wins and losses. And right now,
- 19:31Speaker 1: it's just constant losses. The way the season ended and
- 19:34Speaker 1: really unraveled last year, all the way into this season,
- 19:38Speaker 1: it's like a carbon copy. So then, I've been in
- 19:42Speaker 1: this situation. When I get really worked up or I
- 19:46Speaker 1: get down on myself, we've all been there. You just
- 19:49Speaker 1: have to straight. Because anyone with just like a working
- 19:55Speaker 1: brain would go, don't kick this thing in the end zone. Now,
- 19:58Speaker 1: maybe the kicker fucks up and does it anyway. Or,
- 20:01Speaker 1: I mean, don't kick this thing to the return. Just
- 20:03Speaker 1: blast it in the end zone. But what if all
- 20:05Speaker 1: this losing and lack of success, he's just lost any
- 20:10Speaker 1: clarity what he had up top? Because to me, that
- 20:13Speaker 1: was like, I feel like he's just lost. Like anyone
- 20:17Speaker 1: that plays golf, like when you've just lost your swing,
- 20:19Speaker 1: you know, or it's like you're having a date in
- 20:21Speaker 1: a while. You're like, I don't even know how to
- 20:22Speaker 1: talk to chicks. That's what it feels like Sirianni right now.
- 20:25Speaker 1: It's like, what does he even do? He's at a
- 20:27Speaker 1: loss for answers on a weekly basis. And then you
- 20:30Speaker 1: get him in an in-game situation. It's like, I don't
- 20:33Speaker 1: even think he knows what's going on now. And even
- 20:35Speaker 1: if he did, his brain can't process it. Because that
- 20:38Speaker 1: was insane. That's one of the worst losses I've ever
- 20:44Speaker 1: seen until I saw the following loss. I need to
- 20:54Speaker 1: tell you about this new sports trading app called Polymarket.
- 20:58Speaker 1: It's the best way to trade in sports. In the past,
- 21:01Speaker 1: if you wanted some action on the game, you'd put
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- 22:37Speaker 1: I didn't have any cash on the game, so I
- 22:39Speaker 1: was just the first probably three quarters. I'd be lying
- 22:41Speaker 1: if I was breaking that thing down closely. I got
- 22:45Speaker 1: Giants fans and Washington fans on the three and out operation.
- 22:50Speaker 1: I got group texts talking about cutting Jameis, talking about
- 22:58Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. So it's like every once in a while
- 23:00Speaker 1: I'd look over when the negativity, because I kind of
- 23:03Speaker 1: feed off that on football Sundays. And then I look
- 23:06Speaker 1: up and Jaden has a sweet run. They're up 14 points.
- 23:08Speaker 1: And you're just thinking like, Jameis Winston, this thing's over.
- 23:12Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, I kind of watched the last couple...
- 23:15Speaker 1: Jameis was fantastic. I mean, his final drive was Electric City.
- 23:20Speaker 1: I mean, the touchdown pass he threw to Likely. The
- 23:22Speaker 1: pass he threw to Neighbors. Now I'm getting confused. Might
- 23:25Speaker 1: have been the two-point. He didn't do a two-point. He
- 23:28Speaker 1: threw one to Neighbors, one to Likely. He just had
- 23:30Speaker 1: excellent throws to keep drives alive. He was moving in
- 23:34Speaker 1: the pocket. Like, he was fantastic. But, like, Dan Quinn
- 23:37Speaker 1: is a defensive guy. The way he got back in
- 23:40Speaker 1: the mix... to become a head coach after Atlanta was
- 23:45Speaker 1: resurrecting his career as the Cowboys defensive coordinator. Unlike Sirianni,
- 23:50Speaker 1: who's never been a play caller. It's not like, well,
- 23:53Speaker 1: remember when Sirianni used to be linked up with Phillip
- 23:55Speaker 1: Rivers and dialing up all those? No, he never did that.
- 23:58Speaker 1: But Dan Quinn, and he'd been a defensive coordinator before,
- 24:02Speaker 1: but most recently, the Cowboys and McCarthy, their defenses were
- 24:05Speaker 1: excellent until they weren't at that last game against Green Bay.
- 24:08Speaker 1: But that's kind of his thing. You're up 14 points
- 24:12Speaker 1: at home in a weird weather game, and Jameis just
- 24:15Speaker 1: starts lighting you up like a Christmas tree. Likely a
- 24:18Speaker 1: neighbor's just were just like, I mean, do you guys
- 24:20Speaker 1: realize these are their two best weapons? You're playing Jameis
- 24:24Speaker 1: fucking Winston, not Eli Manning or Phil Sims here. So
- 24:27Speaker 1: just before we even get to the end of the
- 24:29Speaker 1: game situation, 14 points in the fourth quarter, Jameis Winston,
- 24:34Speaker 1: who in fairness has looked a lot better the last
- 24:37Speaker 1: couple weeks than he did in that first Rams operation.
- 24:41Speaker 1: But what I will never be able to understand, because
- 24:45Speaker 1: with about 50 seconds to go, whatever, I think they
- 24:47Speaker 1: hit a 13-yard pass to get to the 26-yard line
- 24:49Speaker 1: with under a minute to go. I was like, I
- 24:53Speaker 1: had to pee really bad. And I don't have a
- 24:55Speaker 1: bathroom in the office, so I got to leave. And
- 24:58Speaker 1: I just assumed they're just going to kick the field
- 24:59Speaker 1: goal and I'll come back and it'll have missed and
- 25:02Speaker 1: it'll end in a tie or they'll have won by
- 25:04Speaker 1: three points. And then I come back and the you know,
- 25:09Speaker 1: channel had changed or it was like, you know, the
- 25:11Speaker 1: YouTube TV frozen thing and my text messages were just flooded.
- 25:15Speaker 1: So I had to go back and watch like everybody.
- 25:18Speaker 1: My first thought was, I was almost confused. I was
- 25:21Speaker 1: like Sirianni. I'm like, do I not know what I'm thinking?
- 25:24Speaker 1: Because at 50 seconds, like once you get to the 26,
- 25:28Speaker 1: why don't you just call the field goal right there?
- 25:30Speaker 1: This isn't the fourth quarter. It's not like if you
- 25:33Speaker 1: kick a field goal, they get the ball back. Everyone
- 25:35Speaker 1: had already had the ball multiple times. This field goal fumbles.
- 25:38Speaker 1: I mean, it was a disaster. Now, you could argue
- 25:41Speaker 1: there's no... Maybe you're at the 50 seconds, 26. Could
- 25:46Speaker 1: you get into the teens and make the field goal shorter?
- 25:52Speaker 1: But why wouldn't you just kick a field goal right
- 25:54Speaker 1: then and there? And obviously, the way it ended, which...
- 25:59Speaker 1: My blame pie goes like this. In those type situations,
- 26:03Speaker 1: it's always on the coach. He sets the tone. He
- 26:07Speaker 1: literally could just yell at Jaden, spike the fucking ball.
- 26:12Speaker 1: He's on the sideline. It's a home game, so this
- 26:15Speaker 1: isn't Seattle. You can just tell him to spike the ball.
- 26:19Speaker 1: So to me, it's 100% on the coach. and then
- 26:23Speaker 1: the coordinator who was talking to him. Because he could
- 26:25Speaker 1: also go to the coordinator, tell Jaden to spike it
- 26:28Speaker 1: right now. I'm not even talking about the 10s once
- 26:30Speaker 1: they got way down. I'm talking the first play. And
- 26:35Speaker 1: then to me, the Jaden reaction, the clips going viral
- 26:39Speaker 1: of him smiling, just not going, because clearly, and I
- 26:43Speaker 1: think the players are very hesitant to do this, it's
- 26:46Speaker 1: pretty obvious what happened. They called a pass. They tried
- 26:49Speaker 1: to get a little greedy. He brain farted and then
- 26:53Speaker 1: just took off. And obviously, what happened, happened. But I
- 26:59Speaker 1: know this. He looked good enough today where he went, damn.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Is Jaden kind of back? Now, can he stay healthy
- 27:06Speaker 1: with the elbow? There were some reports that if it
- 27:09Speaker 1: happens again, it could be a nightmare. He's going to
- 27:11Speaker 1: need surgery no matter what. But the way he played
- 27:14Speaker 1: today was like his legs, the guy can fly. Made
- 27:17Speaker 1: some really, really nice passes. For a guy that missed
- 27:20Speaker 1: a couple weeks, it was impressive. You went, okay, this
- 27:25Speaker 1: is a guy that I remember from a couple years ago.
- 27:27Speaker 1: That right before he got injured was starting to come
- 27:29Speaker 1: on against the Cowboys. But to me, you got to
- 27:33Speaker 1: come out as the quarterback because I just don't. I
- 27:36Speaker 1: think you could tell all these different players, all the
- 27:40Speaker 1: offensive linemen, some of the skilled guys, and just say,
- 27:43Speaker 1: I fucking brain farted. And this, I hate to say it,
- 27:48Speaker 1: but it's all connected to what happened to start the season.
- 27:51Speaker 1: It's all about him, the number five. It's like, come on, bro.
- 27:55Speaker 1: And again, my blame chart always starts with the coach.
- 27:58Speaker 1: You're either coaching or allowing it to happen. That's the
- 28:00Speaker 1: way football works. but once he allowed that to happen,
- 28:05Speaker 1: the quarterback has to have the instincts and the know-how
- 28:10Speaker 1: of like, just snap the ball or just spike the ball.
- 28:15Speaker 1: I wouldn't even run a play. I I'm baffled by that.
- 28:18Speaker 1: By the time you're listening to this, Dan Quinn, 100%
- 28:19Speaker 1: could be fired. I would put it at over 50%,
- 28:23Speaker 1: especially when you factor in that, that the owner is
- 28:27Speaker 1: a basketball guy. They're, they're used to firing coaches. Uh,
- 28:32Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a long time, and I
- 28:34Speaker 1: will say this until the day I die. I will
- 28:37Speaker 1: never apologize for one of the things I love most
- 28:43Speaker 1: about football is the violence, is the pure violent nature
- 28:49Speaker 1: of the sport, which obviously leads to guys getting injured,
- 28:56Speaker 1: head stuff that is not ideal, clearly, which none of
- 29:00Speaker 1: us would wish upon anybody. But I know exactly what
- 29:03Speaker 1: I'm watching. And I don't feel bad. I had someone
- 29:07Speaker 1: DM me the other day. I'm in the medical business.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Do you ever feel a little... No, I don't. Not
- 29:13Speaker 1: at all. And that will never change. So when I
- 29:19Speaker 1: am watching a game like today and the violence of
- 29:23Speaker 1: the Seattle and 49er game is something we just don't
- 29:25Speaker 1: get as much anymore in the NFL. It's just the
- 29:29Speaker 1: sport has changed so much. The rules... So many players
- 29:34Speaker 1: have it, I would say, removed from kind of their
- 29:38Speaker 1: playing style at a young age. age because of the penalties.
- 29:42Speaker 1: You just don't see it as much anymore. And there
- 29:45Speaker 1: was a play in that game where Mike Mustafa, I
- 29:49Speaker 1: don't think his name's Mike. That's Mike, I'm thinking the
- 29:52Speaker 1: baseball player. But Mustafa's the safety for the Niners. And
- 29:56Speaker 1: he lights up a receiver. And it was probably helmet
- 30:01Speaker 1: to helmet, but the flag wasn't called. And Tom Brady
- 30:04Speaker 1: immediately chimes in. Tom hates Sam Darnold. Not personally, but
- 30:09Speaker 1: as a player. Tom has legitimate disdain for Sam Darnold.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I haven't noticed it. Maybe this year, I just... I
- 30:21Speaker 1: haven't been as critical of all these broadcasts. I saw
- 30:24Speaker 1: a bunch of people in the morning freaking out about Kelsey.
- 30:28Speaker 1: I have a pretty standard operating procedure when it comes
- 30:32Speaker 1: to the London games. It used to happen with Rich
- 30:34Speaker 1: Eisen forever. My expectation is zero. You could have two
- 30:40Speaker 1: two-year-olds call me. I'm unfazed. It's on the West Coast.
- 30:44Speaker 1: It's super early in the morning. I don't even have
- 30:46Speaker 1: the volume up that loud. I'm just drinking my coffee,
- 30:49Speaker 1: just watching some football. So my standard of how good
- 30:53Speaker 1: they are, I do not care. The Rich Eisen being
- 30:56Speaker 1: terrible never bothered me. My expectations for Monday night, historically,
- 30:59Speaker 1: years ago, when they had all those revolving crews, that
- 31:02Speaker 1: used to piss me off. Sunday night football, having to
- 31:06Speaker 1: see Jason Garrett looking like the Joker in the smile
- 31:08Speaker 1: ear to ear, that can piss me off. Lending game,
- 31:11Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. But I typically, you know, in the afternoon,
- 31:15Speaker 1: especially if it's a good Romo game, who's gone now,
- 31:18Speaker 1: or the Fox game, I'm going to listen to that audio.
- 31:22Speaker 1: In the morning with a bunch of games, I'm bouncing around.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I'm at the Steeler game, then down to the Bears game.
- 31:27Speaker 1: I'm just kind of, the only audio I had on
- 31:29Speaker 1: was Brady. So I like really took it in that
- 31:32Speaker 1: Sam Darl is like, My big takeaway is he does
- 31:34Speaker 1: not like him as a player. And I do wonder
- 31:36Speaker 1: if there's something that goes back. To the Jets, maybe?
- 31:41Speaker 1: I don't know. But he, like, loves Purdy. Darnold threw
- 31:45Speaker 1: this ball, this late Mustafa, and he essentially called it
- 31:48Speaker 1: a hospital ball, which honestly made me feel good inside
- 31:52Speaker 1: because no one says that anymore because there's no such
- 31:55Speaker 1: thing as a hospital ball. You can just throw any
- 31:58Speaker 1: ball whenever you want, and if they tackle him too hard,
- 32:01Speaker 1: they'll call him a defenseless receiver, and if he drops
- 32:03Speaker 1: it or doesn't make the catch, they'll give him a
- 32:04Speaker 1: 15-yard penalty. If he does catch it and he also
- 32:08Speaker 1: gets hit hard, they'll usually add 15 yards onto it.
- 32:11Speaker 1: So it'll be like 15 plus another 50. It'll be
- 32:12Speaker 1: a 30-yard game. Tom Brady grew up in a league
- 32:15Speaker 1: where if you were off or you left a guy
- 32:19Speaker 1: out to dry, he might go to the hospital. Literally.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Those days are done. And I also think he got
- 32:26Speaker 1: a little aggressive to Sam because I've met Sam one
- 32:29Speaker 1: time at a hotel at the Super Bowl. Again, super
- 32:31Speaker 1: nice guy who's with his then fiance, I think. Couldn't
- 32:34Speaker 1: have been any nicer, actually. I've never heard a bad
- 32:37Speaker 1: thing about Sam. Not one. So I actually think if Sam,
- 32:41Speaker 1: if Tom hung out with Sam, he might change his mind.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Sam was kind of hit or miss today, but Tom
- 32:47Speaker 1: does not like him as a player at all. Meanwhile, Purdy,
- 32:51Speaker 1: who I think Tom fucking loves, because Purdy throws what
- 32:54Speaker 1: looked like, at least sitting on the couch, a terrible pick.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Tom goes, yeah, that was this inverted cover two rover
- 33:01Speaker 1: defense that you never really see. Just a great play
- 33:05Speaker 1: by the defense. I'm like, I don't know, Tom. To me,
- 33:07Speaker 1: it looked like the... The DB was just sitting on it.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Maybe you're right. Maybe you're just a football genius. But
- 33:12Speaker 1: it did feel like he was protecting him. And in fairness,
- 33:15Speaker 1: Purdy outplayed him. And the violent part of these violent games,
- 33:20Speaker 1: and I thought George Alabama was a lot like this,
- 33:23Speaker 1: is you're going to go through ruts in the middle
- 33:26Speaker 1: of the game. It might be a turnover. It could
- 33:30Speaker 1: be just a three and out. It could be someone
- 33:32Speaker 1: just getting decleted and injured and KO'd. Crazy shit is
- 33:36Speaker 1: going to happen in violent games. Can you mentally withstand it?
- 33:41Speaker 1: After Purdy threw a pick, which again, to the average
- 33:44Speaker 1: person podcaster, I'm like, that looked bad. Tom called it
- 33:47Speaker 1: the crazy secret defense, so it's on the defense. I
- 33:50Speaker 1: don't know. But regardless, after that point, he went 10-10.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Led them on a touchdown drive and led them on
- 33:55Speaker 1: a field goal drive, and they won. There was also
- 33:58Speaker 1: a play at the end of the game with Cooper
- 34:00Speaker 1: Cup that I always assumed everyone in my text message assumed,
- 34:06Speaker 1: everyone involved with the Three and Out podcast assumed that
- 34:09Speaker 1: when you are in the air and not out of
- 34:11Speaker 1: bounds and you reach the ball, that wherever that ball is,
- 34:16Speaker 1: is where the ball, like where it's spotted. Well, Blandino
- 34:21Speaker 1: comes on the mic and is like, actually, it's where
- 34:24Speaker 1: the ball crosses out of bounds. Doesn't matter what you
- 34:29Speaker 1: do in the air as you're flying through. I'm like,
- 34:32Speaker 1: are you serious? Then why is everybody over my entire
- 34:36Speaker 1: life always reach the ball out in the middle of
- 34:38Speaker 1: the air, not counting the goal line? I'm still confused
- 34:43Speaker 1: because that means then no one knows that rule. And
- 34:47Speaker 1: none of these players would continue to do that if
- 34:49Speaker 1: the coaches knew the rule because the coaches would tell
- 34:52Speaker 1: them to stop doing it in case it got hit
- 34:54Speaker 1: and came back in and was a fumble or something.
- 34:56Speaker 1: You would just hold the ball close to yourself because
- 34:59Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to risk it. Especially on a non-fourth down.
- 35:03Speaker 1: But turns out that was the rule, I guess, and
- 35:07Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. But the Purdy, like Colin and I, the
- 35:13Speaker 1: stats in a game like that are not going to
- 35:15Speaker 1: look like some of these other games. Purdy didn't throw
- 35:18Speaker 1: 400 yards a day. But every single time he went back,
- 35:23Speaker 1: the violence that everyone... No one was defenseless because they
- 35:27Speaker 1: all knew where the violent defenders were for Seattle. And
- 35:30Speaker 1: they were literally everywhere. When you play the Niners and
- 35:34Speaker 1: you're running the ball, Fred Warner is coming with a
- 35:37Speaker 1: Mike Tyson-like punch to get that ball out. The intensity
- 35:43Speaker 1: of that game was... There were two games played in
- 35:45Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. Yesterday, there were 10 turnovers. for Oregon
- 35:50Speaker 1: and UCLA. That was a tough game to watch. That
- 35:54Speaker 1: was rough. This one was not. This is one of
- 35:58Speaker 1: those rare, there were a bunch of turnovers. Niners had
- 36:00Speaker 1: a couple. I mean, hell, it looked like Debo pulled
- 36:02Speaker 1: his hamstring, freaked out in the middle of the air
- 36:05Speaker 1: and dropped the ball. At first, you're like, it's kind
- 36:08Speaker 1: of Caleb Williams-y. You're like, did he just blow out
- 36:11Speaker 1: his ACL or something? But clearly, he just felt pain
- 36:14Speaker 1: and then let go and it was a bad turnover.
- 36:16Speaker 1: But same thing with Seattle. And Um, I, I, I just,
- 36:22Speaker 1: if every game I miss and I understand like you,
- 36:26Speaker 1: you couldn't just have eighties and nineties football playing like that.
- 36:30Speaker 1: It wouldn't be as entertaining. There has to be some balance,
- 36:34Speaker 1: but I, I do miss when guys would just go
- 36:35Speaker 1: over the middle and you knew if your quarterback laid
- 36:38Speaker 1: them out, you were just going to get killed and
- 36:40Speaker 1: everyone would be like, that's the quarterback's fault. You never
- 36:43Speaker 1: hear that anymore. Um, That's on the quarterback. And I'm
- 36:46Speaker 1: not even, like, I'm not anti-Sam. Today was hard for him.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Today was hard for him. Today was hard for Purdy.
- 36:53Speaker 1: I mean, the game's hard. You know, when you play
- 36:55Speaker 1: the best defenses, the best coordinators, the most violent players,
- 37:00Speaker 1: it is really difficult. You know, watching, well, I'll dive
- 37:03Speaker 1: into this game next, but, like, it wasn't that hard
- 37:06Speaker 1: for Jordan Love, Christian Watson, and Matthew Goldin. They look
- 37:09Speaker 1: like Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, and Rich Gannon in their
- 37:12Speaker 1: prime today. It was like, Jesus. They didn't have to
- 37:15Speaker 1: worry about getting hit because they knew they weren't because
- 37:17Speaker 1: those guys on the other side weren't playing violent. But
- 37:21Speaker 1: I just, I could watch football like that every single weekend.
- 37:25Speaker 1: We just don't get it very often. You guys know
- 37:30Speaker 1: where I stand on Ben Johnson as a play caller,
- 37:34Speaker 1: but also a personality. You know, we'll dive into Ditka
- 37:37Speaker 1: here at the end, but like, Coaches and big personalities really,
- 37:41Speaker 1: really matter for sports. We've lost that in baseball. When
- 37:44Speaker 1: I was a kid, a lot of managers in the
- 37:47Speaker 1: 90s were big personalities. They were really famous people. Now
- 37:53Speaker 1: managers in baseball, no one can point them out of
- 37:56Speaker 1: a lineup. They make less than a running back coach
- 37:59Speaker 1: in the SEC. Basketball still has a couple, but not
- 38:03Speaker 1: as many 20, 30 years ago. And football... It still
- 38:09Speaker 1: has big personalities, but I think because of social media,
- 38:13Speaker 1: guys are just hesitant to say some kind of crazy stuff.
- 38:17Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson, I appreciate him just openly talking shit
- 38:21Speaker 1: about LeFleur, the Packers. But when you talk a big game,
- 38:27Speaker 1: you got to back it up. And today they got shellacked.
- 38:32Speaker 1: I like the Bears big. Maybe because I bought into
- 38:34Speaker 1: all their words. I'm like, listen, I'm just believing in Ben.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Backup quarterbacks, doesn't matter. And they stepped into Lambeau today
- 38:42Speaker 1: and got slapped around. I mean, Jordan Love looked like
- 38:45Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Christian Watson was fantastic. Christian Watson and Matthew Golden,
- 38:49Speaker 1: if they're going to play like that, this team is
- 38:51Speaker 1: not dead. Now, I don't know if they can sling
- 38:54Speaker 1: it around as much as the weather turns, but as
- 38:57Speaker 1: long as they're in good weather game, Jordan, just throw
- 39:00Speaker 1: it to those two guys because they are balling. Golden looks...
- 39:04Speaker 1: Watson's going to take a lot of oxygen. I think
- 39:06Speaker 1: I saw a stat today that the two of them
- 39:08Speaker 1: are both top five in statistical categories, like yards. They
- 39:13Speaker 1: look awesome. But if you're going to talk shit and
- 39:17Speaker 1: get embarrassed, that sucks. That's not ideal. And for the
- 39:25Speaker 1: first time in a while, he kind of had to
- 39:28Speaker 1: put his tail between his legs and go back home
- 39:31Speaker 1: you know and if you watch the clip when they
- 39:33Speaker 1: shook hands Ben stared a little bit longer on the
- 39:36Speaker 1: floor like he still tried to maintain the dominance like
- 39:38Speaker 1: bro you just you just got embarrassed really really bad
- 39:44Speaker 1: and they're also this like Tyson Bajent got benched today
- 39:47Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because Riola got benched yesterday
- 39:49Speaker 1: as well There were like two tight benchings, right? Sometimes,
- 39:54Speaker 1: it's like we just need a spark. It's kind of
- 39:56Speaker 1: like the two Jalen Hurts, Saban thing. Obviously, Jalen was
- 40:00Speaker 1: playing bad, but that was more like we need a spark.
- 40:04Speaker 1: And even Saban on the clip you see, like we're
- 40:06Speaker 1: going to play both quarterbacks. He was trying to be nice.
- 40:10Speaker 1: Saban's known as this major asshole, but even in that moment,
- 40:13Speaker 1: if you notice what he says, like we'll still play
- 40:15Speaker 1: both quarterbacks, which wasn't even true. But he was trying
- 40:18Speaker 1: to ease the blow. It's like throwing a pitch hitter almost,
- 40:23Speaker 1: hoping you get a little life, which happens every once
- 40:26Speaker 1: in a while. Less and less when you have established quarterbacks,
- 40:30Speaker 1: but it used to happen in college a lot. And
- 40:33Speaker 1: then there are the benchings where it's like, this guy
- 40:37Speaker 1: is so bad today. This guy is so horrendous. We've
- 40:42Speaker 1: already probably lost the game because of his poor play,
- 40:45Speaker 1: but I have to yank him out of the game.
- 40:48Speaker 1: And that's what happened. For as good as Jordan Love
- 40:51Speaker 1: was today, Tyson was equally as bad. Like on the
- 40:56Speaker 1: complete opposite end of the spectrum. Like wherever the middle is, like, oh,
- 41:00Speaker 1: he's just kind of solid. No, it couldn't have been
- 41:02Speaker 1: any worse. I kept watching like, is this guy really
- 41:06Speaker 1: this bad? Is it really? How's he playing? It was awful.
- 41:11Speaker 1: I mean, awful. So you've got to give him respect. Because,
- 41:17Speaker 1: and this is what you can do as a play caller.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Like the difference of LaFleur, who everyone was shitting on,
- 41:23Speaker 1: I'm guilty. I'm like, this is not going well. I'm
- 41:27Speaker 1: the play caller. So like, yeah, maybe I'll never be
- 41:29Speaker 1: Kirby Smart in the locker room. Like, I don't have
- 41:32Speaker 1: that type gravitas. Like, I don't have that type juice
- 41:35Speaker 1: in me. But you know what? I can spend a
- 41:37Speaker 1: week dialing up some sweet plays against the Bears and
- 41:41Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. And that's what he did today. Because...
- 41:46Speaker 1: I mean, the one Jordan Love bomb, I think it
- 41:48Speaker 1: was like 55, 53 yards, where Love caught it. That
- 41:51Speaker 1: was the most beautiful play of the day. I mean,
- 41:53Speaker 1: the ball, Jordan threw that thing to the sky, dropped
- 41:56Speaker 1: right in a bucket in the cover. He was covered
- 41:59Speaker 1: pretty well. It was beautiful. So props to the Packers.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Props to the Vikings. I will never, ever, ever again
- 42:08Speaker 1: have any– Any. It could be 10 cents on the Saints.
- 42:13Speaker 1: So anytime I got a little money on you, I'm
- 42:15Speaker 1: paying attention. The Vikings were never losing that game. That was...
- 42:19Speaker 1: And I get the Saints aren't very good. That was
- 42:21Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Kyler looked good running around. Jefferson being back
- 42:25Speaker 1: at a sweet touchdown catch. You know, Flores blitzes literally
- 42:30Speaker 1: every play. I don't think you can blitz anymore. They
- 42:33Speaker 1: were just... They were shook. Literally. I mean, they were
- 42:38Speaker 1: Tyler shook. That's exactly what they were. So... You know,
- 42:41Speaker 1: I think you watch 49ers in Seattle. They feel like
- 42:44Speaker 1: they're on a higher level. But you're 5-0, you're 5-0.
- 42:47Speaker 1: And that was by far their best offensive performance because
- 42:51Speaker 1: Kyler's legs, I think it was 24-30, made some really
- 42:55Speaker 1: big runs. And again, if Jefferson's there, just throw it
- 42:58Speaker 1: up to him every once in a while. It's like
- 42:59Speaker 1: Randy Moss. Just give him a fucking chance. Anything else
- 43:03Speaker 1: that I wanted to hit on before we dive into
- 43:05Speaker 1: a couple college things? I did want to end on this.
- 43:09Speaker 1: is Mike Ditka died this weekend. Obviously, I was born
- 43:13Speaker 1: in 84. I don't even remember the 85 Bears. But
- 43:17Speaker 1: that franchise and that team was clearly, I would say,
- 43:21Speaker 1: one of the most famous champions any sport of my lifetime.
- 43:26Speaker 1: They are still referenced, right? I say it all the time.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Play defense like the 85 Bears. And a huge part
- 43:33Speaker 1: of it was, I mean, we have other champions that
- 43:35Speaker 1: no one remembers. Maybe they lack personality. Maybe they lack
- 43:39Speaker 1: some just memorable characters, moments. They didn't have as many moments, right?
- 43:50Speaker 1: And I was thinking about, like, I've always said that
- 43:53Speaker 1: Peyton and Tom are the Magic and Larry Bird of football.
- 44:00Speaker 1: And I was thinking, like, maybe that's not quite true.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Because Magic and Larry were in the 80s. If you
- 44:07Speaker 1: think about it, in the 60s and 70s, baseball was
- 44:10Speaker 1: by far the biggest sport in America. In the 80s,
- 44:13Speaker 1: football was big, but if you look at a lot
- 44:15Speaker 1: of the champions in the 70s, it wasn't necessarily the
- 44:21Speaker 1: big markets. It was like Oakland Raiders. The Pittsburgh Steelers
- 44:25Speaker 1: were winning a lot. The Minnesota Vikings were really good. Now,
- 44:30Speaker 1: they were historic people and players and individuals in the
- 44:35Speaker 1: sport that are remembered forever. But then the 80s hit
- 44:39Speaker 1: and Mike Ditka took over the Bears, Bill Parcells took
- 44:42Speaker 1: over the Giants, and Bill Walsh was running the 49ers.
- 44:49Speaker 1: So you have Chicago, San Francisco, and New York City.
- 44:54Speaker 1: And you also, I forget what year Gibbs took over Washington,
- 44:57Speaker 1: but same thing for the 80s. So you have our
- 45:00Speaker 1: biggest city and three of the other top four or
- 45:03Speaker 1: five cities in America were all unreal at football. They
- 45:06Speaker 1: basically won the Super Bowl every single year, beside a couple.
- 45:10Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Parcells, Ditka, and Walsh played
- 45:15Speaker 1: each other essentially twice a year because they were all
- 45:18Speaker 1: winning the division all the time. So they would play
- 45:20Speaker 1: each other in the regular season and they would literally
- 45:23Speaker 1: play each other constantly in the playoffs. So football, because
- 45:27Speaker 1: by the time Manning and Brady, for me to call
- 45:30Speaker 1: them bird and magic, football was already massive. Now they
- 45:33Speaker 1: took it to another level, that rivalry, those two individuals,
- 45:37Speaker 1: but it was already pretty big. It's like Tim Cook
- 45:41Speaker 1: took over Apple. It wasn't just an operation that had
- 45:45Speaker 1: seven stores in California. It was a pretty well-established operation. Now,
- 45:50Speaker 1: he took it to another level. But Steve Jobs got
- 45:53Speaker 1: it rolling. And if you think about Ditka and Parcells
- 45:57Speaker 1: and Walsh, all three of them, especially Ditka and Parcells,
- 46:02Speaker 1: massive personalities. And those three guys are three of the
- 46:06Speaker 1: most famous, definitely Parcells and Walsh as coaches, Ditka as
- 46:10Speaker 1: a personality in the history of the league. And, you know,
- 46:14Speaker 1: I was reading an article this weekend how Ditka as
- 46:17Speaker 1: a player in the 60s used to just get into
- 46:20Speaker 1: a Ray Nitschke and Packers famous linebacker. And I guess
- 46:25Speaker 1: in one article I read that it got so bad
- 46:28Speaker 1: in one game They agreed to meet at a local
- 46:32Speaker 1: bar after the game to settle it man to man
- 46:35Speaker 1: and just fucking throw down and get after it. And
- 46:38Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like Lombardi and some
- 46:39Speaker 1: of the Packers or some of the Bears, like they
- 46:41Speaker 1: basically were able to like not let one of the
- 46:43Speaker 1: guys go. But they were both dead set on meeting
- 46:46Speaker 1: and fighting. And, you know, you just America was built
- 46:51Speaker 1: on men like that. I mean, let's face it. These
- 46:53Speaker 1: guys were literally just tougher. You see some of these
- 46:56Speaker 1: things on Instagram and Twitter. By no means do I
- 46:59Speaker 1: act like I'm Chuck Liddell here. I mean, we are just,
- 47:02Speaker 1: I grew up with a dad who went to Vietnam.
- 47:04Speaker 1: His dad was, both my grandparents were in World War II.
- 47:07Speaker 1: One was shot down and lived. I remember being a
- 47:10Speaker 1: young kid. He died in the late 90s. But the
- 47:12Speaker 1: Purple Heart was in this one little bar room. Like,
- 47:15Speaker 1: that's a different breed of human beings. You read some
- 47:18Speaker 1: articles about Mike Ditka. But what makes Mike so special
- 47:20Speaker 1: is because he was clearly this hard-ass, tough guy. is
- 47:23Speaker 1: he just had a big, big personality. And it just
- 47:28Speaker 1: resonated with people. And those guys in the NFC with
- 47:32Speaker 1: John Madden on the call of a lot of those
- 47:36Speaker 1: games was just a big, big time for the NFL
- 47:39Speaker 1: to take off like a rocket ship. And people like
- 47:42Speaker 1: Mike Ditka, when you watch like George Kittle makes $ 17
- 47:46Speaker 1: million a year, Travis Kelsey, all these guys making a
- 47:48Speaker 1: huge coin, and all guys around the league. Really owe
- 47:51Speaker 1: it to a lot of those guys. They're in position
- 47:53Speaker 1: because of the work and kind of the foundation that
- 47:57Speaker 1: those guys built back in the day. I mean, shit,
- 47:59Speaker 1: I bet. I draft off it because of the popularity
- 48:03Speaker 1: of this sport, the importance of these individuals. And I
- 48:07Speaker 1: was thinking today, like I'm inside and Tom Brady's on
- 48:09Speaker 1: the call and I'm holding Jack. Maria has him decked
- 48:12Speaker 1: out in 49er uniform. I'm thinking like, Jack will have
- 48:15Speaker 1: never seen Tom Brady throw a pass before. It's like
- 48:19Speaker 1: one day when he's like 10 and Tom, assuming he's
- 48:21Speaker 1: still calling games, I don't think he realized how good
- 48:25Speaker 1: this fucking guy was. It'd be like how my dad
- 48:27Speaker 1: told me about Mickey Mantle and Pete Rose and Bill Russell.
- 48:31Speaker 1: But it's just kind of how the way the world works.
- 48:33Speaker 1: And as you get older, I think you have a
- 48:35Speaker 1: little more appreciation for the importance of these people that
- 48:39Speaker 1: came before you. And I think the NFL does a
- 48:42Speaker 1: good job. You know, basketball, they're always battling. Because, I mean,
- 48:45Speaker 1: I think part of it is some of those guys
- 48:47Speaker 1: from the 80s or 90s are like jealous of how much,
- 48:51Speaker 1: you know, you're like, wait, Zion? He's going to make
- 48:54Speaker 1: $ 700 million in his career? That guy? But, you know,
- 48:57Speaker 1: in football, there's less, it's like more respect. And it's
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- 50:28Speaker 1: quick college things before we get out of here. I
- 50:30Speaker 1: know this, that there is no chance people at LSU
- 50:33Speaker 1: are going to be cool with paying $ 50 million and
- 50:36Speaker 1: you losing to Kentucky on the road. I don't care
- 50:39Speaker 1: if your best offensive weapon's injured. I don't care if
- 50:42Speaker 1: your best defensive player's injured. No one's going to give
- 50:46Speaker 1: a shit. You don't have some Phil Knight. You don't
- 50:49Speaker 1: have the dude that's funneling Texas Tech or the Texas money.
- 50:55Speaker 1: you can't convince me that LSU is going to maintain
- 50:58Speaker 1: this unless they just use the government funds, which they
- 51:00Speaker 1: gladly will. And Lane will clearly gladly take it. But
- 51:04Speaker 1: I just can't imagine this will be tolerated for years.
- 51:08Speaker 1: And as people have forwarded me today, and I saw
- 51:10Speaker 1: it on the internet as well, is like, here's just
- 51:15Speaker 1: a good staffer. Shane Beamer has more road top 25
- 51:18Speaker 1: wins than Lane Kiffin. Like Lane Kiffin's hype doesn't meet
- 51:25Speaker 1: his actual results. He's never actually beat anyone good except
- 51:30Speaker 1: Georgia one time, several years ago. It's not like every
- 51:33Speaker 1: single year he's been rattling off these impressive wins. And
- 51:39Speaker 1: he's a great marketer, and that matters. College football is
- 51:43Speaker 1: about marketing. But to be a great coach, you've got
- 51:46Speaker 1: to win some big games. Like, Kalen DeBoer just lost
- 51:51Speaker 1: to Kirby. Well, he's beat Dan Lanning three times when
- 51:53Speaker 1: he was at Washington. He beat Sark in the Final Four.
- 51:56Speaker 1: He'd already beaten Kirby twice. Now, is he perfect? Is
- 52:00Speaker 1: he Nick Saban? No. But you just look at DeBoer's resume,
- 52:04Speaker 1: you go, God, that guy's fucking pretty damn good. I
- 52:07Speaker 1: actually think that was one of his more impressive games
- 52:09Speaker 1: that I've watched him in his career in a loss. Right?
- 52:12Speaker 1: Kirby's been winning big games forever. It's like, well, he
- 52:15Speaker 1: couldn't beat Saban for a while. And then he could.
- 52:18Speaker 1: It's like, Lane can't beat Kentucky on the road. And
- 52:22Speaker 1: when I'm paying you huge money, if I'm a booster
- 52:25Speaker 1: on the program, that adds to the urgency. I watch
- 52:28Speaker 1: some of these plays. Whenever I watch Washington, I'm like, wait,
- 52:31Speaker 1: this guy signed a $ 15 million contract, four-year contract, $ 3
- 52:36Speaker 1: million a year. You're paying this guy that? What are
- 52:39Speaker 1: you doing? In the NFL, that's the type of stuff
- 52:41Speaker 1: that gets GMs fired. But, man... You know, the Oklahoma thing,
- 52:47Speaker 1: which brings me great joy. Very happy for my guy
- 52:51Speaker 1: Drew Hill and Jim Nagy and everyone with the Oklahoma
- 52:54Speaker 1: Sooner program for pulling that one off. What makes that
- 52:58Speaker 1: game so unique, and I've been once and Sooners got
- 53:02Speaker 1: beat like 50-10. It was terrible. I mean, it was
- 53:04Speaker 1: really bad, actually. Quinn Ewers, it was kind of tight
- 53:08Speaker 1: for a half. About quarter and a half. And then
- 53:11Speaker 1: it just, it was a blowout city. But if the
- 53:14Speaker 1: game is close for either team, There's no environment like
- 53:17Speaker 1: that because, like, Georgia pulled off that win. What makes
- 53:21Speaker 1: that win so impressive for Georgia is, like, you can't
- 53:24Speaker 1: hear yourself think when you're on offense because you're playing
- 53:27Speaker 1: at fucking Alabama. Right? Or even LSU on the road
- 53:31Speaker 1: to Kentucky. Like, that's not an easy environment if it's
- 53:34Speaker 1: a packed house. Like, it's just... It's difficult to go. USC,
- 53:39Speaker 1: Penn State sucks, but you still got to go on
- 53:42Speaker 1: the road 3,000 miles and the place is packed and
- 53:45Speaker 1: it's loud. Well, this, half the fans are yours. And
- 53:51Speaker 1: I saw something on Twitter earlier today is like, because
- 53:55Speaker 1: the game was never, even as Oklahoma did not play well,
- 53:58Speaker 1: their offense sucks. I mean, their offense sucks, mainly because
- 54:02Speaker 1: the quarterback's terrible. Might be a nice guy, not a
- 54:06Speaker 1: very good college quarterback. Definitely not a pro. Probably not
- 54:11Speaker 1: even UFL. But, like, watching that crowd when Arch, who
- 54:17Speaker 1: just completely unraveled. You know, you can throw interceptions. Every
- 54:23Speaker 1: human being can live with an interception. Peyton Manning threw
- 54:26Speaker 1: a ton. Brett Favre threw a ton. They happened. But
- 54:29Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of tie games against your rival,
- 54:33Speaker 1: In a split crowd, you have to be, I would say,
- 54:40Speaker 1: very aware of where you're putting the football when it
- 54:43Speaker 1: leaves your hand. And the pick six, which to me
- 54:47Speaker 1: is worse than even the next pick, because he just
- 54:51Speaker 1: let it rip and it just threw it up there.
- 54:54Speaker 1: It's a 17-17 game. And the other thing is once
- 54:58Speaker 1: you throw that pick, the crowd went berserk. And then
- 55:04Speaker 1: Oklahoma immediately had life. And then obviously he threw another
- 55:07Speaker 1: one right to the defender. But like, listen, I'm not
- 55:13Speaker 1: trying to beat a dead horse here, but that was
- 55:17Speaker 1: as bad as it can get. That's as bad as
- 55:19Speaker 1: you're ever going to see. Oklahoma won a game that
- 55:22Speaker 1: they shouldn't be able to win because they have no offense.
- 55:25Speaker 1: I mean, they cannot play offense. And listen, Sark ain't exactly,
- 55:32Speaker 1: you know, Mike Ditka, right? roaming the sideline as a
- 55:36Speaker 1: tough guy. But at Texas, you have an unlimited budget.
- 55:38Speaker 1: You can just buy the players. Their defense is good.
- 55:43Speaker 1: Problem is, quarterback's not. I'm kind of like this with
- 55:46Speaker 1: Bo Nix now. I don't even know if it's the
- 55:48Speaker 1: play calling. Might not matter. You could design the best
- 55:52Speaker 1: play of all time, and Bo Nix might throw that
- 55:55Speaker 1: thing into the ground. You can only do so much
- 55:57Speaker 1: when your quarterback can't play. I mean, there have been
- 56:00Speaker 1: a lot of good coaches not be able to coach
- 56:03Speaker 1: a lot of bad quarterbacks and bad players. I'm not
- 56:06Speaker 1: saying he's bad. He's just definitely not good. And that
- 56:11Speaker 1: loss to me, if you want to give some of
- 56:14Speaker 1: the loss, the Ohio State-Texas game to the coaches getting conservative, totally.
- 56:20Speaker 1: But there are some games all on the player. Even
- 56:22Speaker 1: the Jaden Daniels thing. Yeah, Jaden definitely bears some blame,
- 56:25Speaker 1: but also on the coaches, like, Sark would never recommend.
- 56:29Speaker 1: No coach in the history of the sport would tell
- 56:32Speaker 1: you to make those two throws. And then he does.
- 56:36Speaker 1: And then they lose. I mean, which I think most
- 56:41Speaker 1: level-headed people, clearly Texas is good because of how many
- 56:45Speaker 1: good players they have, which they are very, very loaded.
- 56:49Speaker 1: I mean, they have two of the best players in
- 56:51Speaker 1: the country in Coleman and Colin Simmons. But when your
- 56:56Speaker 1: quarterback's going to do that, you're liable to lose to anybody.
- 57:00Speaker 1: You're not guaranteed to beat anybody. So, congrats to the Sooners.
- 57:05Speaker 1: That felt pretty good, watching that field goal go in
- 57:09Speaker 1: and seeing a team that's probably going to end up
- 57:14Speaker 1: going 7-5. I don't even know who Oklahoma's playing next week.
- 57:18Speaker 1: You can tell me Tennessee, Auburn, Kentucky– could easily lose
- 57:25Speaker 1: by like 10 points, no problem. The game could be
- 57:27Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. They're liable to lose to anybody in the
- 57:30Speaker 1: SEC besides like Vanderbilt and Arkansas. But that does feel good.
- 57:35Speaker 1: There's Oklahoma, Texas, Niner, Seattle. There's something pretty special about rivalries.
- 57:41Speaker 1: Have a great night and talk to you tomorrow. The Volume.