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Vance VT ski trip, White House disaster, sap, rain and flooding, sports, Town Meeting Day, Central VT Home Health Hospice · Aired Out

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  Speaker 2: for most towns. This morning a great day for an
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  Speaker 2: so were the warmer attempts and the rain. I don't
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  Speaker 2: fun in the forecast by the middle of the week.
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  Speaker 2: later in the day with eyes around forty degrees. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Is this a good forecast?
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  Speaker 2: Is this not so good? I don't know. Some of
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  Speaker 2: ice jams. Bring on forties and by Wednesday near fifty
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  Speaker 2: with rain showers, Sugar makers going to be very busy
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  Speaker 2: collecting SAP. I'm not sure when the boil will begin,
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  Speaker 2: First of all, before I forget tomorrow, Berry City or
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  Speaker 2: Granite City blast baseball is going to be in here
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  Speaker 2: and I can't wait they're coming back. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about Cooperstown. I'm not sure exactly which kids
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  Speaker 2: are going to be on the air, but it'll be
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  Speaker 2: two and there will be others. And I have supported
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  Speaker 2: these kids consistently for the past couple of months, and
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  Speaker 2: as I said to him last time, let's get you
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  Speaker 2: on in the dead of winter and give an update.
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  Speaker 2: Am I surprised that they have raised enough money that
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  Speaker 2: our community here in Central Vermont has helped them raise
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  Speaker 2: and supported them enough to raise enough money to go
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  Speaker 2: to Cooperstown, which has got a huge price tag on it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at all, expect it actually, and that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what's happened. So congratulations to them. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of recapping things a little bit with
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  Speaker 2: them and talking about some of their fundraising efforts and
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  Speaker 2: how successful they've been. And they have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people to think and I look forward to giving him
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  Speaker 2: the microphones tomorrow to do just that. Also, don't forget
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow is and I know you haven't forgotten tomorrow's town
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  Speaker 2: meeting day. I say, don't forget to vote yes for
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  Speaker 2: Central Vermont Home Health and hospice town funding. And here's why.
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  Speaker 2: Just last year alone, we are talking about almost three
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  Speaker 2: thousand patients in the twenty three towns of Central Vermont
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  Speaker 2: that Central Vermont Home Health and Hospice has served. And god,
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  Speaker 2: I hate that word served, because it's really more like
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  Speaker 2: three thousand patients that they have drastically changed their lives
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  Speaker 2: in a positive way, and not just the patient but
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  Speaker 2: their entire families. We're talking about just in the last
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  Speaker 2: year alone, over fifty thousand visits, twenty eight thousand home health,
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  Speaker 2: nine thousand hospice, ten thousand long term care. Look at
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  Speaker 2: these numbers, this is amazing. Seventeen hundred family child health visits,
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  Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty palliative care consults. I hope you're
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  Speaker 2: catching this. This is absolutely beyond impressive, and I ask
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  Speaker 2: you to post a comment, a gesture of support if
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  Speaker 2: you can, in some way, shape or manner to Central
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  Speaker 2: Vermont Home Health and Hospice. These are wonderful people who
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  Speaker 2: work so incredibly hard, and frankly, I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: they do it, and I have said in the past,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it for five minutes. I could not
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  Speaker 2: handle tough work like that. It's really staggering. And we're
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  Speaker 2: not talking about a team of people that's millions strong.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about several hundred employees here in Central Vermont
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  Speaker 2: who are so committed, so devoted to this line of
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  Speaker 2: work into caring for for honors. So here's why the
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  Speaker 2: town funding tomorrow, the town funding vote is so important.
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  Speaker 2: Practically all of the money, most of the money that
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  Speaker 2: Central Vermount Home Health gets in the way of grants
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  Speaker 2: and fundraising, is used to make up the difference for
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  Speaker 2: reimbursement from Medicare, Medicare Advantage, Medicaid. They do so much,
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  Speaker 2: but they need to bridge that gap of that other
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  Speaker 2: twenty percent to keep up with the same high level
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  Speaker 2: of care that they have been doing and have been
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  Speaker 2: committed to for over one hundred and ten years. I
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  Speaker 2: said it before and I'll say it again. Without Central
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  Speaker 2: Vermont Home Health and Hospice, we're in a lot of trouble.
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  Speaker 2: about car shows in the coming weeks. We got a
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  Speaker 2: Ninety seventh Academy Awards took place last night, and not
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  Speaker 2: to say that it lasted forever, but by the time
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  Speaker 2: But instead I'm like, you know, you already know the answer.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get some shit from people who were the huge
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  Speaker 2: fans of the Oscars, saying, of course I watched the Oscars.
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  Speaker 2: Billy Joel, My understanding is that he is He's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I guess he took a little tumble from what I gathered,
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  Speaker 2: seventy five years old, fell on stage during a show
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  Speaker 2: if I was Billy's manager, no disrespect to Billy Joel
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  Speaker 2: Apparently this all went down with at the end of
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  Speaker 2: twirling the microphone stand and tossing it. If you're seventy
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  Speaker 2: five and you're tossing microphone stands on around on stage
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  Speaker 2: like you're David Lee Roth, somebody who's helping you out
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  Speaker 2: in your management team should be telling you to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be doing that. You're playing the piano. You're not
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  Speaker 2: doing acrobatics spinning stuff around like this. Billy, sit down
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  Speaker 2: and play the piano. Oh, here comes the comments on
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  Speaker 2: the Academy Awards this morning. Okay, all right, what else
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  Speaker 2: is happening listen? I don't know what that whole shit
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  Speaker 2: show was about on Friday at the White House. But
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  Speaker 2: it was really intense, and I watched I went back
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  Speaker 2: and watched it a few times. Who do you think
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  Speaker 2: is the the And I asked you Newt, who do
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  Speaker 2: you think was the winner in the grand scheme of things?
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  Speaker 2: Looking back in hindsight? Was the winner Trump? Was it
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  Speaker 2: jd Vance or was it Putin?
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  Speaker 4: H Yeah, so we're talking about the blow up in
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  Speaker 4: the Oval Office on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, I just came in on the phone here. I
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  Speaker 4: think it was Putin. I think they were toasting things
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  Speaker 4: in Russia. And you know, I mean I I tend
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  Speaker 4: to be rearly middle the middle of the road on
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  Speaker 4: some of some of these things. But but uh, I
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  Speaker 4: I it looked to me as if jd.
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  Speaker 3: Vance threw the first punch. And uh and and and
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't think that he.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think that Zelensky really wanted the treatment that
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  Speaker 4: he got.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think it looked good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, he was. He was a
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  Speaker 2: little warm too, but nowhere nowhere near nowhere near jd
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  Speaker 2: Vance And and Trump. I mean, uh, but I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know the reporters. The reporters loved it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you were a camera operator working for a news
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  Speaker 2: news agency, that would have probably but that probably been
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  Speaker 2: one of the highlights of of your career.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because that's that's never really happened like that
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  Speaker 4: before in the overlap. So I, like you said it,
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  Speaker 4: I think it is one of the highlights of it
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  Speaker 4: of their career. And and you know, unfortunately, and I
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  Speaker 4: and I think and I think that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was probably staged that way to be
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  Speaker 3: that way.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you know, Trump and Vance
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  Speaker 4: probably knew exactly what they were going to do.
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  Speaker 2: I think. So I've seen a lot of comments about that.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people say that it was
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  Speaker 2: that it was staged, and I do wonder. I do wonder,
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  Speaker 2: and it's you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, it's, man, it's too bad that it it kind
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  Speaker 4: of played out the way it did, because man, it's
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  Speaker 4: it just doesn't look fair, you know. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you've got this big, behemouth country that uh, you know
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  Speaker 4: that could could.
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  Speaker 3: Could be doing a lot, you know, and and is.
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  Speaker 4: Doing a lot to to help Ukraine. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: has been doing a lot, but uh, you know, to
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  Speaker 4: to to be to be the bully in the room
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  Speaker 4: is not cool, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I think, no matter who
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  Speaker 2: you are and where you stand politically, I think that
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  Speaker 2: there's something to be said for if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be a leader, for being courageous, not being coward, not
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  Speaker 2: being a pushover, but also exercising a certain level of class.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, the whole shouting over each other thing was
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  Speaker 4: not good.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's how stunned were you when you watched this?
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  Speaker 2: And how many times did did you watch it? I had.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go back over and watch it a
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  Speaker 2: couple more times because I literally couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the first time I heard about it was on
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  Speaker 4: the radio, and then I had to go back and.
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  Speaker 3: Watch it, and I was like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just it's just so not the
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  Speaker 4: way anyone who is considered the most powerful person in
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  Speaker 4: the world should act. And you know, I mean he's
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  Speaker 4: got the you know, Trump clearly has the cards. Not
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  Speaker 4: to steal a line from the whole debacle, but but
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's like, yeah, I know, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: know you've got the cards, but like, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: be kind, you know, be diplomatic. This is called the diplomatic,
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  Speaker 4: not about you know, yeah, sorry, yeah, no, that.
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  Speaker 2: That's the word. It's it's be diplomatic. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna turner a lot more respect that way, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think, right exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty clear we've seen this for a long time that
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  Speaker 4: that Trump likes, uh likes Putin, and and I think
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  Speaker 4: he's just kind of playing into uh Putin's playbook. And
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  Speaker 4: and it's it's not good. You know, it's not good
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  Speaker 4: for our country. Yeah, and it certainly doesn't look it's
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  Speaker 4: the the the the optics of it are.
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  Speaker 3: Just even worse.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's just so bad for all
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  Speaker 4: the reasons you and I just discussed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you heard the news this morning,
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  Speaker 2: but European leaders held an emergency summit in London to
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  Speaker 2: rally support for Ukraine. The British Prime Minister is speaking
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  Speaker 2: out trying to wrestle control of some of the peace
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  Speaker 2: negotiations away from the United States, saying if you can't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you can't do it, then then we will,
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  Speaker 2: along with France.
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  Speaker 4: And they've got a lot to you know, they've got
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  Speaker 4: a little more skin in the game because there is
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  Speaker 4: not an ocean between them and Russia, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's Trump's going to be addressed a joint
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  Speaker 2: session of Congress tomorrow for the first time in his
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  Speaker 2: his term, an opportunity for him to reassure voters about
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  Speaker 2: his leadership. A lot of a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: are referring to this exchange with with Zelensky as catastrophic.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you think and I listen, both of
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  Speaker 2: you and I are far from political experts here, but
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  Speaker 2: do you think that some repair is this relationship salvageable?
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  Speaker 2: Can there be some repair here? Do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, just just my opinion as a as
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  Speaker 4: a lowly vermonterter, I think it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think I think what was that word
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  Speaker 3: that you just used.
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  Speaker 2: To repair this relationship, right, yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean they said you said that the
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  Speaker 4: catastrophe catastrophe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's catas traic.
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  Speaker 4: I think and I think that it would be catastrophic
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  Speaker 4: had they not ended it saying you know that it's
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  Speaker 4: not over yet and that you know, ah that I
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  Speaker 4: think that there's there's still a door open to revisiting this.
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  Speaker 3: I think Trump even said at the end of the meeting,
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  Speaker 3: you come.
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  Speaker 4: Back and be you know more you know, thankful or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And I think I think Zelensky was thankful. But uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately, you know, the the whole thing went
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  Speaker 4: south before the thanks came out and right, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that was by design.
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  Speaker 3: But but so.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's catastrophic, and I think that it it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I think it's it's more of what what
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: we often see from from Trump, which is, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: he wants to make sure that everyone knows he's in charge,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and he's made that very clear with this. But but
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Think it means it's the end of negotiation over this.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: And I think that the US will probably eventually, you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I think we'll get past this and have another meeting
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: and and the US will continue support. Yeah, but you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: this is all part of that that part of the deal,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: you know, putting himself in a big position, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: next to the little littler guy, which you know, again
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: it looks really bad. It's it's a lot of bullying,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: and nobody likes that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It's sometimes when emotions get high, it's hard to remember
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that the world is watching and yeah, but.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I mean I think they knew that with all those
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: TV cameras on them, they.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Knew, yeah, you know, and lights. Yeah. Can you can
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you imagine? Can you imagine? And maybe you've already imagined
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: this coming out of that meeting as JD vance, You're
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: hot under the collar, your blood pressure is pumping, you're
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: red hot. Cameras are, cameras are off you. You pass
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: through the door where you have your first little bit
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: of privacy, and you say, all right, kids, get in
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the car, We're going to Vermont's go skiing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: It's you know, it's almost hard to imagine.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Going from you know, that meeting at the at the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Oval office, Yeah, to like, you know, get in the car,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: jump on a plane being Vermont by I don't know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: it's here my late Friday night, I imagine.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Or was it Saturday morning? Saturday Saturday morning?
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so uh yeah, it's hard to imagine, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: but I guess that's life when you are, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: a politician on the national stage and you've got to
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: be in eighteen different places in one week, all over
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the all over the country, if not you know, the globe,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: and you know, so that they're used to this, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: there's there are people who are just looking at the
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: clock and saying, okay, go here now, you know, and uh,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: but it's got to be tough, and uh, you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: regardless of like I said, I think you threw the
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: first punch and and you know, so I'm not a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: big fan of h of J. D. E.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Vans. But but.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: You know, if if I, if I could be considered
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: a Republican, it would be an old school Vermont Republican.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, yeah, even if you are, even
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: if you are not a fan of JD.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Vance, would you have taken the time to make some
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: signs and get in the car and head on up
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to Sugar Bush and stand out in the cold and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: protest for me personally, Even if I'm not a fan
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of JD. Vance, regardless of how I feel about him,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I can think of a million damn things that I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: could use my time more wisely to do, especially on
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: a Saturday. Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, sorry, the dog is.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I think the dog needs to go out. We're just
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: gonna let him go out for.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: A second year. And and then I'll answer that question.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I think I would not have I mean, I, you know, I,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: you know, we I'll preface this by saying, of course,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you know, one of the wonderful things about our country
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: is that we live in a place where we have
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: freedom of speech, and that enables people to protest as
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: they would like, and so, you know, respect for that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: But I think that and here's what I think is
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the difference here.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: You know, if this had been a political event like
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: a rally, I've shown up, I've protested in d C.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I've pested, and I've protested various things.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: But these were at political events, organized protests at political events.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: They were not, you know, at at at events where
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: someone is just taking their family on vacation in Vermont.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: He was not here in an official capacity. He was
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: not here as Vice President of the United States. He
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: was here as JD. Vance, a civilian not doing his job.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: He was just here taking his family on vacation with
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: his wife and children. And I think as Vermonters we
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: should take the high road. As Baraco. Well, actually I
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: think it was Michelle Obama who said that, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: go high, like take the high road and let him
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: have I think it would have.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Spoken way stronger words.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: You know, to you know, these they would be way
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: stronger actions to just take the high road and say,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: you know what, We're going to let him have his
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: family vacation in Vermont and not say anything. If I
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: had run into him on the street, you know, and
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and had the opportunity to say hi, I would have
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: just said, Hey, you know, welcome to Vermont. I hope
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you have a great time here. And if anybody of
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: he said anything about politics, I'd be like, you know what,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I disagree with some of the stuff you do, but
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I hope you have a great time with your family here,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: and welcome to Vermont. And I think, like I said,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I think that would have spoken way stronger and way
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: louder than you know, having you know, all these people
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: show up with signs and stuff, which you know makes
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: everybody feel good.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: But you know, jd. Vance already knows that eighty five
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: percent of this state went to Kamala Harris in the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: presidential election. No, you know, it's no secret. So you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: they're not saying.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Anything that everybody doesn't already know anyway, But you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: and I understand that there was a lot of immediate
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: anger because of the mess in the Oval office the
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: day before so you know, again, people have the right
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: to protest, and I it was there was, it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Was a hot topic, particularly that day. But still I
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: don't think I would have done that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I think I think I would have, you know, looked
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: at myself as a Vermonter, and as a vermont particularly
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: one who's worked in the hospitality industry his whole life.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I I just couldn't. I couldn't treat a visitor to
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: our state that way. I don't care who it is.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I don't care if it's Vladimir Putin.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I I you know, I would. I just I think
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: as Vermontras we need to be kind.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Well it's it's it's respectful too. But I mean, you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: you sure you have a great point that you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: many of us want to exercise our right to to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: speak out, to protest, to have a voice, to have
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: an opinion. But there's there's always time and place, time
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and place, always your time, and there's a.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Time and place, you know.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Take it back to let's let's compare this to a
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: local situation. Say you've got a local select board member
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and the select board is discussing an issue that you're
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: passionate about, and that one select board member is on
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: an opposite side from you. When you see that local
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: select board member in the grocery store, do you want
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: to accost them right there with their wife and kids
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: while they're shopping for their groceries. No, you go to
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the select board meeting and you bring it up, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: that is the proper time and place.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And I think that that is the difference here. It
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: really is. You know, if this was a political rally.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Or other campaign event or whatever, absolutely show up, protest,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: do your thing. But you know, we've got to start
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: drawing the line between politicians' personal lives and their job.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: You know, we had a.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Legislator in Lamoyle County who she got elected and she
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: quit after two weeks in office because.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: You know, there were threats.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: To her family, and that's just it's just not acceptable.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: It's just not it's not the way things should be,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: particularly here in Vermont.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I like to think that we're you know, we're.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: A little more aware of some of this stuff because
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: we don't have big city well we don't have you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: really big cities anyway.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: To me, Burlington's big city. But like, but you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: so we're a smaller.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: State with smaller communities. And we tend to know our
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: neighbors and know each other, and therefore I think we're
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: a little kinder and gentler than than some places. I
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: don't think anybody could argue with that. But I think
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: part of that is is that we really need to,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: you know, draw the line between personal lives and professional
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: lives and try to be respectful of people's need to
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: take a weekend and Vermont with their kids.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I don't care who it is.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Surelee just wrote it doesn't speak well for Vermont, right, you.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Know, exactly right, That's exactly what I'm saying. It does not.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And there's been a lot I mean, I've been reading
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: some of the comments.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: On some of the Facebook posts on this, and like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who agree with this that
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: like it just you.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Know, right or wrong.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Just because something is right, yet we have the right
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: to do it, we have the right to free speech.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that that's the time and place is correct
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: for that action.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you know you you want you
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: want this individual to leave with a positive experience, a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: positive takeaway, even if not all of it's positive, but
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: at least that they can speak well of their visit
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: to your state beyond exactly beyond. It was cold and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the skiing conditions were great. You want to you I
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: want to have maybe something a little bit beyond that
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: kind of positivity.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what I would have loved to have seen, you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: instead of reading about what did happen, the big protests
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: and all the signs of everything in the national media,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you know, on some national I think it was The
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Guardian or something like that. Anyway, instead I think, you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I would have loved to have seen. And I was
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: saying this on Friday. I was like, man, I hope
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Vermont does this right this weekend. And you know, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: think it would have, like I said, and like a
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: lot of people have said, you know, it would have
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: spoke volumes.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: For us to you know, wouldn't it have been nice
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: if jd.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Vance could say at the end of the weekend, Hey,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: you know, I went to Vermont, and I know that
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: eighty five percent of the people are against me and Vermont.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But they treated us with respect and we had a
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: fantastic time.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Right They let me, They let me get out of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the car and put my ski boots on and enjoy
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the mountain. Do you do you know, do you know
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: anything about the actual skiing for what it was. Where
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: were were they able to you know, did they close
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: down the trails that they were on?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Do you know? Do you know? I don't know, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything about it. I haven't even looked
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: into it, but I doubt they did.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: They don't. I don't think they usually do that. They did,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: you know, there's all there's often celebrities that come to
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: thever Moont and go.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Skiing, and sure, and and I think I think that,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: you know, they do their best to just make sure.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, their secret service. I'm sure he
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: is out there on the skis with them too. Sure
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: you know, they're all doing their thing. But I don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: think the resorts do too much to to you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: close off the trails or anything. I think it's you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: they try to make it as normal a situation as possible.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is gonna be uh. I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: that this is And I don't want to spend the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: whole week talking about about this. I mean obviously a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Monday morning, but I think this, this story is just
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: going to continue to fuel its own fire, and I
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: think it's going to pick up more momentum and I
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: think it's I think I think VPR and other outlets
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: are going to be talking about this all week.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, you know, And it's tough because I'm sure
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: that there are plenty of people on you know, the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: far left that will be you know, super happy about
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: all the press that that they'll get for this, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: and great, but you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Know they're preaching to the choir.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, everybody already knows that Vermont is very far
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: left with national politics, uh, you know, not so much
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: with local ones, especially outside sad In County.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, even Phil Scott put something now.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Well, Phil Scott's a classy guy, you know.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Saying just let the guy have his vacation time with
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: his family, right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: And Phil Scott, you know, is just you know, he's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: like a lot of us.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Where like, you know, he made it clear that he
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: didn't vote for for Donald Trump, but you know, but
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: like you know, but Phil Scott is a classy guy
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: and he said it right. He you know, again, Phil
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Scott has taken the high road and he and you know,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: he said, you know, just let.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Him be here with his family.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: You know, this is not a political event, and that
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: is I was so happy to see that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I found I found.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: That yesterday last night when I was when I was
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: perusing the internet, and and I just I felt like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: you know, again, we can be proud of our governor here.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: You know, he's a good man.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: You know. I overheard some some folks talking over the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: weekend and one of the people just kept coming back
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: with the same thing, which was, I know, whatever, it
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: was this ski trip. It was this ski trip. They
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: were there on vacation, they were there for leisure. I know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, but they just wanted to ski, right.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: And that's it. That's it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is what this comes down to. You
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: know that this was a personal excursion with his family.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: This was not an official business, you know.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so much there's so much contentiousness here
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: with with so many people.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You know, we've got to look beyond We've got to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: look beyond stuff and just say it was the ski trip.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: I realized people are angry about a lot of these
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: things that are going on. I mean, like you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: you know the whole doge at Musk thing, and and
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: you know jd. Vance is a polarizing character. Uh, you know,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of national issues that people are rightly
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: so very angry about and very fired up. But we
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: have to step back, Like I said, you know, you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: we've got problems in this country. And I'm sure even
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: in Vermont where people are, they they get angry about
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: schools and they'll they'll they'll show up at school board
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: meetings or and treat people really badly.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Or but worse yet, they will they will accost.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Teachers when they see them out in you know, in
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: the community, and it's just not appropriate.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: It's like, you don't do that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you were raised by some seriously old school Verononors,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: your grand your grandparents.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, my grandparents were in their seventies
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: and eighties when I was a kid. You know, fortunately
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: they lasted until I was about fifteen.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: But like, but would they have said to you, would
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: they have said to you Newton, shut your mouth and
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: either snap on your skis and get and get skiing,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: or get in your car and just give the man
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: some some privacy, not get off this behavior as shit.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely my use that word. But but but yes, she uh,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I can I can.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Imagine my grandmother saying, you know what, when someone's on
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: vacation with their children, they're on personal time, right, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: there's a difference between potical time.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: But you still have a voice where you can. You
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: can get on your own social media platform. God bless
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: god less the fact that we have that outlet and
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: exercise your opinion there. But yeah, man, I.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Mean there's so many ways these days to get your
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: voice out, like you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Know, trying to trying to.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Haven't you know you're not going to have any impact
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: on JD Vance by doing this, sure, you know, aside
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: from ruining his VAKA.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Well did he leave did he leave early? Did he
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: leave Vermont early?
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I saw something. I
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: haven't heavily researched the whole situation.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: But I think I saw something on CIX last night
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: that that his plane had pulled out of Burlington on
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Sunday evening, which was probably when when it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Was supposed to.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: So that's probably fine, But they did, you know, they
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: did have to change his lodging arrangements so they could
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: put him in an undisclosed location out of a matter
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: of safety concerns, And that's just that doesn't look good
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: for a hospitality state at all.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the Tourism Department is saying here on
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: this Monday morning as we get back to work. I wonder, Well,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: but I haven't.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Checked their website, so.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: But but you know, it's it's a tricky game.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I know people are angry,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: and they're fired up, and rightfully so.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: But I really think that, you know, we need.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: To pull back on the angry rhetoric, and we need
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: to separate the difference between personal time and professional time.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I firmly believe that, and I think that's what this
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: is all about.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: You know, I can't imagine, you know, you know, I
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: can't imagine being rude to a local legislator.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: When he's out in public, going to the post office
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I just know that old school Vermont
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: values right there.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, exactly, you know.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, my great great great great great grandfather was
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: one of the first settlers of Bridgewater, Vermont, right and like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: and you know, we go back a long way here
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: and like, but I got to tell you, like, I'm
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: way more of an old Vermont you know. How there's
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: this debate between the New Vermont and the Old Vermont.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I remember reading this thing in seven Days back when
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Phil Scott was running the last time, and I forgot
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: who the challenger was, but I think it was somebody
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: from either like Middle Barrier Shitting County and and you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: they had this article about, you know, the New Vermont
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: versus the Old Vermont.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: And I'm way more old Vermont. I mean, that's the
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: way I am.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: But and I'm not apologizing for it, but yeah, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: think that that we've got to just we got to
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: just be kind to people.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying you've got to be kind of JD.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Vance when he's working or when he's doing a political
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: event or so. There's you know, some online forum where
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: you want to vent your frustrations and get your information
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: and your message out.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Great, but.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Let the guy have a family vacation at Sugar Bush,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: because that's what Vermont does. We welcome people and we
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: provide them with a fine vacation experience.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: That's what we do. That is our primary product here,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm in the wedding industry, right and
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: we you know, even the wedding industry is part of
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: the tourism industry. We wouldn't have people coming to Vermont
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: in droves to get married, which we do have, if
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: we didn't have the tourism industry. It's all part of
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: the tourism industry. It's just just as much as skiing is. Yeah, well,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: and yeah, and all of this, you know, is what
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: enables us as a state to have an economy that
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: allows us to keep our lands open. It keeps our
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: farms going, people doing agritourism and stuff.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And of course it's not it's it's not. It's not
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: the silver bullet that solves all of our problems.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, we've got issues we got we
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: got education funding we can't seem to tackle yet.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: But but you know, it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Is a fantastic industry that enables Vermont to be the
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: beautiful place that it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Is, and it enables us as Vermontors to be here.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: And even if you don't work directly in the tourism industry,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: you are dramatically impacted by it. There's plenty of people
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: in Chittenham County who work in tech and all this
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: other stuff that's over there in chittn In County that's
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: less tourism driven, but you know, it doesn't take long
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: before you get if you start to look at the
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: impact of tourism, you know, you can see maybe one
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: or two degrees back that that without tourism in Vermont,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: even Chittenhan County would be a hurting unit.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you before well so well
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: said Newt. I want to ask you before we skip here.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Trump is ordering the Commerce Department to probe international lumber markets.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: And I know that this is a topic that is
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: probably raising your eyebrows along with many others that he
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: is considering this twenty five percent global tariff on lumber
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and wood imports, Canada being our our neighbor.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and Canada produces I think, you know, is
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: it the majority or just like forty's it's.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: The majority, That's what I thought, and I have.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Just I am not. I have just learned this not
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: long ago. I think it was Dave Horner that that
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: got on me about it, and he's like, yo, man,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Canada is like they're huge.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that's you know, it's going to affect
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: everybody who's you know, you talk about everyone, period, because
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: anyone who rents a house, rents an apartment, buying a house,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: building a house.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: You know, lumber prices affect all of these things.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Well, this is you know, and this is beyond. Hey,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: we need a new deck. Our deck looks shitty. Let's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: put a new deck up esthetically and functionally. It's it's
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: something that we've wanted to do. There's a difference between
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that and holy shit, our roof is leaking and we
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: are we we have repairs that need to be made
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and the roof is much worse than we thought it is,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and we need a lot of work done here with
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a lot and.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's been leaking and there's structural problems. So you're
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: going to have to buy some lumber to put up
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: some new two by six's and and get that thing solid, right,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: And here we are twenty five percent tariffs, and that's
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: that's you know, it's not like Trump says that, you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: businesses are going to pay these tariffs.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Businesses aren't going to pay these serffs.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Sure, businesses will will pay the increased cost of their lumber,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: and then they will increase the cost to the people that.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Are buying the lumber. That's the way it is. Everybody
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: knows this. I mean, Trump can see what he wants.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: But you know the vast majority of Americans are smart
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: enough to figure out that, Like you know, uh, supply
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: and demand is going to dictate that. Like you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: if you if you, if you need lumber, you're going
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to pay what the supply is asking for that lumber
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: because you need the lumber. We can't produce enough lumber
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: to compete with Canada here, you know. I mean, they've
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: got massive forest reserves in Canada. And and even even
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: if we could, we don't have the infrastructure in place
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: to do it. You know, there aren't the sawmills and stuff,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: and and there's regulations on.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: All this stuff too. But you know, it's it's it's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: gonna be a problem. It really is.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: So and you know, not only in costs of things,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: but uh, you know, once once the costs go up,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: you've got inflation again. And and as inflation goes up,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: the only way the Fed can keep the inflation somewhat
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: in check is by increasing interest rates again.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: And then everyone who's.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Got debt, unless it's fixed, if it's fixed debt, fixed
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: rate mortgage or something, then you're you know, they might
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: be able to, you know, get by with just keeping
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: paying their mortgage, but they're not gonna be able to
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: go out and get a new.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Mortgage at that same low rate.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And so then they're not going to want to sell
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: their house. And you know, everything ends up being more
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: expensive and it becomes costly, you know, and anyone who's
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: got debt that's that's variable rate, like credit cards or
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: variable rate mortgage or.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes car loans are that way. It's it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: just not going.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: To be good because all the all that stuff goes
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: up and it makes it more expensive and really difficult
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: for people who are on the edge financially, you know.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of her monitors who are on
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: the edge.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's a lot of folks in
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Vermont who don't make huge money and have, you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: lots of disposable income and they don't worry about debt.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: There's there's plenty of her monners who are not in
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: that boat.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, uh, thanks for coming on, buddy. I know you,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: along with so many of us, are looking forward to
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: warmer weather. We've got to by midweek this week, we're
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: talking near fifty degrees with rain and now concerns of
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: ice jams and flooding and oh crap, thirteen thirteen below
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: at my house this morning.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cold last night.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna snap here. You know, I don't
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: know if this is the January thaw a little bit
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: late or what the deal is, but sap, SAP's going
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to be running, and I know that you're looking forward
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: to getting some of your your antique cars out of
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the out of the shadow.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: It's coming, Spring's coming.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: There's hope.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's hope.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, hey, we're in March now, where
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: the light is clearly glowing at the end of the tunnel. Yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: and you know, it's tough because like March is often
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: the snowiest month. Sure, but at least the temperatures start
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: to come up during the day, you know, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: it gets cold at night. We get these crystal clear
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: blue sky days like the one we have today where
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: you know, all that there's no clouds to keep the
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: heat in.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: So like we just get freezing.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Cold at night, but during the day things start to
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: get nice out. It's when you you know, if you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: go skiing, you see someone you know in a T shirt. Yeah,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, by the by late March especially boy,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: it's you know, forty five degrees during the day, even
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: if it's cold at night.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: And that's what makes the saffron.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So it's the angle of the sun. It's it's just
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit higher in the sky, which yeah, not complain.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: About, makes a huge difference in the way we feel.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's uh, it's uh, yes, it's beautiful.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: I love this time of year because like the light
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: is there at the end of the tunnel, and and
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: by the end of March we'll start to feel like spring.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: And you know, I mean spring comes late in Vermont.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, like you know, it's funny, like
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: the what where's the the groundhog?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Phil, Tony Phil.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Tony Phil.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, in Pennsylvania, they come out in mid February and
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, it's gonna be you know, so much
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: more winter. But like to them, spring is like at
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: the end of February. Sure, that's not necessarily the way
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: it is here.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Six more weeks of winter, we get ten more weeks
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: of winter. No matter what the groundhog says, yes exactly,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the thing should be shot.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Well, he's a cute little Groundhog's just he's just wrong.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Raby's probably you know, maybe there's brainworm or something.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why listen.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I hope that you're going to get out to a
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Vermont Mountaineers baseball game with me over at Recreation Field
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: in Montpellier this summer. Brian Gallagher, the president, the president
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: of the team and CEO, was just on the air
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: with me a few days ago and we're just you know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Grapefruit League action is going on down south in Florida.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're we're just excited and we got a
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff to look forward to.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, man, oh, there's so much to do in
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Vermont in the summer.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: It's just it's wonderful, you know. And you know with
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: spring coming, we got to hit some sugar houses. Are
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: limb Laws opening.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: You know about e fact, it was just talking with
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Bryce lim Law this morning. It's funny that you mentioned that.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And yeah, they're they're going to be collecting, not they're
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: going to be collecting here by middle end of the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: of this week, but not yet boiling yet. They're they're
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: still they need to collect a little bit more before
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: they boil.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Do you know, if they're doing their weekend breakfast that
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: they at one time were doing.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm gonna find out for damn sure,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you know.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Excellent. Yeah, man, like I love sugar in season. It's
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: just it's such a great Vermont tradition.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Getting out of those sugar houses and supporting them is fantastic.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: We should mention to all of the folks down in
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts and Connecticut points south that if you would like
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: us to mail you some sugar on snow, we will
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: do that. We will do that, but it might be
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: a little messy on your end when you receive it.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that that might be the problem, and therefore
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you should come up here and get it fresh.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Exactly beautiful right there. That was beautiful?
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect. Yeah, Well thanks for the setup. You know
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: I would have the setup, it wouldn't have work.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Listen, buddy, Uh, let's get you in here soon, okay.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, let's let's do that very soon. And spring
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: has come in. We got to get the car, the
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: cars and trucks out of the barns.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got a new carburetor for my
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: seventy six. Maybe you can help me put that in.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: I wonder you said you bought a new carburetor, but
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if it was for the truck or
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: for the for the motorcycle.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: No, truck, it's for the truck.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah wow, well good will it solve any problems?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I assume?
• 1:00:00
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• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: can't wait, man, Thanks Nudy, stay well brother, all right,
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:57
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• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: you again plenty of advanced notice. Here wing A Ding
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: is going to be at the VFW Post seven ninety
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and Barry, it's at five o'clock. Done a thunder. You
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: bet she's gonna be playing. It's gonna be amazing. Looking
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: at to Thursday at the American Legion Post ten right
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: here in the Granite City, they have a all veterans dinner.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's at five thirty and I'm gonna double
• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the weekend here. It was a fantastic weekend, freezing Fund
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: for Families Winter co Eds Softball Tournament, their twenty fifth year.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: It was so much fun being up there with Lily.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: It was so much fun being up there with Logan Loose.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: We had a great time. Chris Catarat, Corey two Sheet,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Wendell morse Ethan two sheet and his team number one
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: fundraising team by the way, they got the trophy fourteen
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars just from that one team alone, and the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: grand total raised this year fifty one thousand bucks in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: two days. In two days, I don't say just Vermont,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you should be very proud of yourselves for putting those
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: numbers together and forgetting out there and freezing your ass
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: off in the snow, all to help six little kids
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: fighting pediatric cancer. I say to all of the states
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: that represented Freezing Fun for Families, thank you for being there.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: We had teams from Massachusetts, from New York, from Maine,
• 1:05:02
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