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Leading & Lagging Indicators: A Fractional COO's Playbook for Positive Progress with Benjamin Speich · The Purpose and Progress Podcast Show

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  Benjamin Speich:: Asking for help is not saying that you're
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  not able to do something necessarily. But sometimes,
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  other things need your focus more. And the help is to say,
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  hey, for me to go do that, I need you to do this. It's not
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  that I couldn't do that. It's not that I'm not capable of
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  doing the thing, but I need to put my attention somewhere else.
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  And so there's different styles of help. And I think that's a
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  that's an interesting way that I've had to look at career and
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  things like that as well is to say it's not that I couldn't,
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  but I do need help so I can give this other thing the attention
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  it deserves. And if I do that, then this thing over here isn't
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  going to get the attention it deserves.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Hello, I'm Dr. Jim Price, and welcome to The
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  Purpose and Progress Podcast. This is the place where we
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  explore how purpose can guide our actions, and how growth can
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  become a part of our everyday lives. On the show, I talk with
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  amazing guests, from educators and creators to everyday people
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  with extraordinary stories about the challenges they face, the
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  lessons they've learned, and how to keep moving forward. My goal
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  is to share conversations that inspire you to live
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  intentionally, embrace growth, and take meaningful steps to
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  your own purpose. Let's get started.
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  Hello, everyone, and welcome to The Purpose of Progress podcast
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  show. I'm your host, Dr. Jim Price, and we share
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  inspirational stories from interesting people from across
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  different sectors to share their story, to share their journey
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  with us. I always say, see the success of how things go, and
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  sometimes, they don't know the backstory, and this is a part of
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  that journey of expressing that, and also connecting with
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  understanding knowledge of positively forward. So today is
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  no different. We have a spectacular guest. He is a
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  Fractional COO and EOS integrator with more than 15
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  years of experience helping founders turn vision into
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  structure, accountability, and consistent execution. He has led
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  global operations, managed 500 million plus budgets, built
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  teams from the ground up, and guided creative,
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  educational-focused business through growth, restructuring
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  and reinvention. Today, we're happy to have Benjamin Speich as
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  our guest on our show today. How you doing, Benjamin?
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  Benjamin Speich:: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. It's
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  sunny outside, and it's sometimes all you can hope for.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Yeah. Even here, we just literally had a tornado
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  in our area like two days ago. Tornado had touched down. The
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  weather's a bit warm. But then it rains a lot, and then the
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  tornado hit on on the Forest Park area of where we live in
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  Massachusetts. It was very detrimental. A lot of things
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  happen and stuff, stuff and stuff. But I've been praying for
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  all the folks. I'd always be saying that I prayed for all the
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  situation like that. So a lot of those things happen, and we
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  don't always understand why they happen. But we know that we can
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  get through those obstacles in our lives and make them
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  opportunities for growth and progress in terms of how we
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  structure things.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Absolutely. It puts a lot in perspective when
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  things like that happen.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: So from the beginning in terms of your own
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  personal journey, what started and influenced your personal
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  journey in terms of moving toward where you're at now.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Yeah. I guess the journey of curiosity, I'll
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  say. And I think that's been an earmark of what I've done over
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  the years. And it started a long time ago. I always remember even
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  into high school when you take your first resume writing class
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  as like a senior or whatever it was, and I had to ask, what is
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  that called when you click on the thing and you just see what
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  happens? What's the word for that is? And I still haven't
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  found the right one. But there is something around being
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  curious and being confident enough in your ability to adapt,
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  or even humble enough to raise your hand when something is
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  going wrong and you need help. But I talk to people all the
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  time. And when I coach, I've coached them and things like
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  that to say, please try some things before you come to me. I
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  will always absolutely answer the phone and help, but I need a
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  little bit of effort on your part. And so I think that's
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  where I started. I came into Air Force. Left the Air Force, and
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  then came into the private side, and got into just an operations
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  role and customer support kind of thing. Everything was like,
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  well, why do we do it this way? Can we do it better? What if we
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  did it like this? And it kept happening where, hey, if you
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  want to do that, if you want to take that on, here's a
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  promotion. Here's the next step. And it just kept happening over,
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  and over, and over again until you're like a global vice
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  president of a company, and then moving on from there. But that's
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  how it really started. Just that curiosity with, I think,
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  humility of the ability to say, hey, I messed up. What do I do
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  now?
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  Dr. Jim Price:: I think that's wonderful. I think a lot of
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  people do face those challenges being afraid to ask for help
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  when they don't know about something. I know even when I
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  was in middle school, if I was sitting in the class, I didn't
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  want to raise my hand and be like, I don't know. Because
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  other people probably look at me and have those feelings. And
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  also touch about being accountable for like, if you're
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  not asking for help, you're probably not going to make much
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  progress. So being accountable for your own purpose and
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  progress in terms of not being afraid to ask for help, not
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  being afraid to reach out for help was what everyone needs
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  help at some point in life. I've had plenty of times in my life
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  where I've had to get help and assistance with certain things
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  and stuff like that. But I think sometimes, people have a hard
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  time getting all that hurdle because they want to have that
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  feeling of independence, and not have to rely on anybody, and
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  feel like they know everything.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Absolutely. I think we were talking about this
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  last week with somebody where there was the asking for help is
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  not saying that you're not able to do something necessarily. But
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  sometimes, other things need your focus more. And the help is
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  to say, hey, for me to go do that, I need you to do this.
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  It's not that I couldn't do that. It's not that I'm not
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  capable of doing the thing, but I need to put my attention
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  somewhere else. And so there's different styles of help. And I
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  think that's an interesting way that I've had to look at career
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  and things like that is to say, it's not that I couldn't, but I
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  do need help so I can give this other thing the attention it
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  deserves. And if I do that, then this thing over here isn't going
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  to get the attention it deserves. And that's when you
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  can bring somebody in instead of just trying to do all of it, and
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  then you're not giving either thing the attention either thing
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  deserves.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Exactly. And that's what happens sometimes.
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  Some people just procrastinate too, and they don't really push
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  for it. They may complain about not having changes in their
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  lives, but make no absolute action towards changing
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  anything. It happen in a lot of people's lives too. That's
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  interesting. When you were going through your journey, what
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  obstacles do you feel you face through your journey? Some
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  obstacles that you faced.
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  Benjamin Speich:: I'm an introvert. And I talk about
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  being an introvert. And of course, now there's this
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  ambiverts and in these other things that have come out that
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  have said, well, you can have these people who shift and morph
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  in between the two things. But early in my career, I was very
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  introverted. And yet, I'm traveling all over the world,
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  having to coach and talk to a lot of people, and doing trade
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  shows. You're out on the floor, just walk up to people and start
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  talking. And it's one where I learned to be able to turn it on
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  and off sort of thing. There's that sense of being on all day,
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  and then going home or going back to the hotel and just
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  laying in your bed for three hours before you have to go turn
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  it on again at dinner. And what the interesting thing that I
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  took from that is actually speaking about it, saying it out
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  loud. I remember the exact scenario I was in where I was
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  onboarding a new company that we had purchased. We're doing a
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  merger, and I was in charge of the merger and acquisition part.
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  And I was there at their facility and introducing them to
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  the rest of the company globally. And somewhere in that
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  conversation, I said something like that. Whereas, hey, I'm an
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  introvert by nature, and blah blah blah. And then it wasn't
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  until like the next day, one of the engineers came in and said,
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  hey Ben, can you come over here and let's talk? And he was like,
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  I am hugely introverted, but I want to be a manager. How have
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  you become a VP merger and acquisitions at this global
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  company when you state you're an introvert? And so it wasn't
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  until he said that that it kind of clicked. Like, hey, other
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  people are dealing with these things too. And if I have found
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  a way to overcome them or to handle them in certain ways, and
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  you have these little tricks of the trade kind of stuff that
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  this is the time to share in. Be that role model. Or be that
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  person that people look up to without really realizing I was
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  that person. I was just out there talking. So yes, being an
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  introvert in the world we are in, I think, was an interesting
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  time. And now it's shifted with, we have the ability to be behind
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  a camera and things like that, and I can just close the video
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  off and talk to it, and you don't see it. So now, there's
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  other tricks to do. But for me, that was a big one of realizing,
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  hey, I can get up in front of people. I can do these things,
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  and no one's really going to know unless you say it. But the
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  fact that I can say it means other people now, I can help
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  them in their journey as well and give back kind of thing.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: That's so wonderful. This is what the show
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  is about. Sometimes, people can be introverted and not know how
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  to engage, react and stand up in circumstances where they may
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  have to speak out, and they end up saying nothing, being more
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  reclusive engagement with others and stuff. That's a testimony in
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  itself that you're able to have do full training to everything.
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  We're talking now, it's usually like the most outgoing, bubbling
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  points. When we're talking about our dialog and stuff even before
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  we start the show, I would never have ever thought that. Your
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  words are definitely inspiring and motivational. I always say
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  that we never know who's watching, who's influencing and
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  impacting to move toward that positive aspect of themselves,
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  understand themselves personally, and trying to
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  overcome hurdles such as that. And for sure, I know I was never
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  always a Greek front line speaker now. You never know.
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  Benjamin Speich:: You never know. You never know what's
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  going to happen. It's always been one of those where, again,
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  I think it leans into the other side of that being curious part
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  of what happens if you do it. And I've been able to do that,
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  which I think helps with the speaking pieces and the being in
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  front of people is the massive anxiety, the knots and all of
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  that are there. And then there's that little voice going, what if
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  you just tried it? What if you just see what happens? I enjoy
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  doing those things. I think I've come to learn putting your body
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  through enough of it. You start to learn certain things and how
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  to handle that. And then, yeah, the ability to just push through
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  sometimes.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: That's so amazing. I know anybody will
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  definitely be able to connect with that positive message of
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  overcoming obstacles. That's a big obstacle.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Yeah, it's a huge one.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Speaking in front of people, and all of a
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  sudden, you have to speak in front of a lot of people. That's
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  the big variation of changes.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Oh, man, achievements are tough. I don't
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  know if I would say it's an obstacle. But I will say that
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  self promotion is one of those that's very tough for me to do.
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  And talking about achievements and things like that, but I did
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  work my way up through a company. I was literally a
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  remote service repair guide when I started. And then 14 years
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  later, I left as VP of merger and acquisitions, and just
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  chipped away at doing that. Traveled the world and got to
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  experience a lot of things. Coming from a small town
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  Wisconsin to being globally, like savvy in like, how to do
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  that? There's lots of people like, this was Wisconsin.
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  There's people I still know who have never left Wisconsin. It's
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  one of those small town kind of places, and it was one where I
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  started. And military, of course, got me a taste of it.
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  But there's a big world out there. Let's go see the things.
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  Let's be in a place where nobody speaks English. And you have to
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  go to the ATM and try to sell that to the bar that I'm not
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  failing on my check. I'm trying to go get money somehow. So
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  there's all these different things. I will say that, I feel
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  like that is an achievement to be able to go and do that, or at
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  least overcome a lot of those things. And then recently, as
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  you know, two years started my own company. So I did what I was
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  doing and realize that there's been a couple times where I was
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  really good at working myself out of a job. And then looking
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  back on the career, you're like, all I've been doing is making
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  the thing work without me needing to make it work and
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  great. And then some people though don't think that's a pat
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  on the back. Some people are like, I love that I come off
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  vacation and everything's on fire because it's like that's
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  how much they need me. And I'm like, I hate that. I love when
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  it just works and I'm not around so I can go do the next thing
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  and move forward. And so when I started my business, that was
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  kind of my thing with Fractional COO is, my goal is to not work
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  at your company for a long time. My goal is for you to not need
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  my service. That's interesting, I think, concept for people to
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  get a hold of. But stepping out of your own is a very very risky
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  thing. It's a lot more common now. I think with the new
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  generation and technology we do have, but it was a lot for me to
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  say that I'm going to do this. My family and everybody be on
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  board was was amazing. So that was, to me, felt a really big
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  accomplishment. Even recently, family is a big part of what I
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  do and who I am. My wife recently switched jobs to
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  something that she absolutely loves doing. And everything that
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  I do is partly for my family, of course, to be able to do what
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  they want to do. And so she was able to take this amazing job
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  that she absolutely loves. We're both just like, everything also
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  is going on in the world. At least these are some little
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  sparks of light that we have and some joy that we have. So that
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  blessed.
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  Wow! Congratulations. I always say people only will see the
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  success, all the victories and everything like that, but they
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  doesn't know the backstory to how people get that. You have an
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  amazing story behind everything. I'm sure you're still learning.
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  it is a lifelong thing, so you probably still learn all the way
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  as you go. Even at the point of success and stuff, you're adding
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  on to your legacy and everything like that. That's what life is
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  about. You add them to your legacy. I would say, how do you
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  want people to remember you? And it's time to make other know how
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  do you want to be remembered. It's so important that people do
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  positively influence and impact other people's lives. And you're
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  a person that's definitely doing that, Benjamin.
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  Benjamin Speich:: Awesome. It's a good time. I do try to as much
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  as I can, and I think it's one of those that isn't done enough.
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  I always try to figure out how to do it in the right way. I
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  still haven't probably figured out how to do it in the right
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  way, but try to voice the things that I believe in, and have that
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  be you know positive stuff. And right now, with everything
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  that's going on in the world, my front yard is rainbow flags,
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  rainbow this and all of those things. I'm in Texas. I'm in
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  Austin. You know that's great. But I'm still in Texas, and I
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  look like me. And so as much as I can, I'm out there wearing the
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  rainbow hats and all of the stuff, saying, we need to be
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  part of this community. We are all here. Traveling globally is
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  one of those where it's like borders are just arbitrary
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  things. We're humans all over the place. Why would you not
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  want this culture just everywhere? It's amazing. It's
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  one of those that I feel like I try to almost need to required
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  to, I have the privilege to speak about, and so I try.
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  That's my next real big thing that I've been carrying with me
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  is, how do I do that? How do I voice that in the right way, and
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  make sure that my kids are going to say, hey, that's great that
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  my dad's out there doing this, and saying these things. They
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  are going to, hopefully, grow up to be awesome humans as well.
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  And so yeah, that's my next kind of big. I don't want to say it's
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  like an accomplishment or an achievement, but that's
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  something for myself that I am trying to continue to to work
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  on.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Personal growth, right? If you don't keep pushing
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  forward, there's any progress without action and stuff like
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  that. A lot of times, that's what we try to have people
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  understand. You got to put action behind your ideas of
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  growth. Even if you have the idea, you got to plant the seed
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  at some point. And when you can't play at the seed, then
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  you're able to watch that seed grow into something beautiful,
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  as well to nurture it in positive and correct way. A lot
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  of those things kind of correlate in a lot aspects of
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  trying to understand that everybody is on their own path,
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  on their own journey, and how you proceed of how you make
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  progress is all about what action you take. So those are
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  all fabulous. I would also want to know if you were to say an
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  advice for our viewers and audience to maybe reaching their
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  goals and aspirations if they want to do things in your line
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  of the industry. But just in general, to meet their goals and
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  stuff like that. Would you probably give the advice for the
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  audience?
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  Benjamin Speich:: Yeah. This is more in the wheelhouse of what I
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  do for my job. A lot of it is around goals and how to get
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  there. And one of the big things that I've even had to really
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  talk about recently is being able to measure some level of
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  action to your point. Like, okay, what did you do this week
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  to move it towards your goal, and to understand what are those
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  things that you need to be measuring? So there's the whole
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  concept of leading and lagging indicators. Is something
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  lagging? Is something that happened? Leading is something
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  that you can actually go and do, and change that is showing that
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  you're moving towards that thing. And so when I was
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  starting my business, for example I was thinking like,
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  okay, how do I go and talk about my business? How do I get leads?
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  How do I get sales? The number of sales I got is the lagging
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  indicator. What am I doing to get those sales is the leading
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  indicator. And so for me, it was, well, I'm going to go to
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  start going to networking events. And so my goal was
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  simply go to the networking event, step one. All first,
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  let's just get you there. It goes back to the old thing of
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  like going to the gym. Step one is just to go to the gym. Don't
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  even lift weights, just go to the gym every day. What's the
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  first piece that you need to do? And once you're there and you
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  establish that, I go, okay, here's the ones that people are
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  going to. And I'm getting a list of just like, what are all the
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  different networking events in Austin that I can be attending?
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  Then the next step, okay, now that I'm going to these, what do
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  I want to get from them? What does a successful attendance of
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  a networking event mean? And sharing your business card,
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  getting someone's business card, booking the meeting in the next
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  step. So you don't have to do it all at once is the big thing
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  that I talk about. I'm sure somebody else has said it
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  better. But I say, it's really just identifying the first next
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  step because there's going to be a lot of steps here. We can
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  define step one and two all the way through step 10. And if we
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  know what step 10 is, there really is no reason to define 5,
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  6, 7 and 8 because step 3 may change after the first step.
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  Step 2 may change after the first. So just define the goal
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  that you're trying to get to, and the first step towards that
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  goal, and then take it. And then when you get there, just keep
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  doing the same thing. Okay, now that we're here, what have we
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  learned? What's the next one? And then you just keep moving
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  along. And something happens, I think, when you can really break
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  it down into just the simplest form. That there's stress that's
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  gone. You're not sitting there contemplating at night like,
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  what happens after that? And then after that? You don't need
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  to think about that right now. You need to think about the next
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  thing. That's it is just the next thing. And so I do a lot of
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  that coaching and teaching, and creating those pieces when I
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  work with companies. And then not only with the CEOs, but all
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  of the individual, managers in there to go, okay, let's look at
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  your role and job. What are those things? What's success in
• 24:18
  your job?And then, what are all these indicators that we can
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  outline and point to? How do we baby step towards them? So
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  that's a big part of what I've been teaching lately.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: That's excellent. That's what goal
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  setting is about. You make a small step, take that goal, you
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  meet that step, and then you keep going up those steps till
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  you reach the goal. Some people make it more complicated for
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  their lives. But at the same time, there is a lot of other
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  things that happen. You got life responsibilities, bills, all
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  these kind of things that happen in life. So how people can go
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  about setting up those steps for those goals that they make it
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  more difficult of what it really is.
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  Benjamin Speich:: And life, life is going to happen. I say that
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  to everybody when I meet with teams on a weekly basis, and I
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  go, okay, how does this week look? How does last week look?
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  And last week was not so good. And they go, what do we got to
• 25:17
  do? I'm like, nothing. You're going to have a bad week, and
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  that's totally fine. One week is not a pattern. Maybe it's two
• 25:26
  weeks, maybe it's three weeks. But let's see what happens this
• 25:29
  week, and then we'll look at it the week after. So if you have a
• 25:32
  bad week, that's fine. It's the same of, again, I do enjoy going
• 25:38
  to the gym and working out, those sort of things. And as
• 25:40
  people talk about cheat days and stuff like that, it's not a
• 25:43
  cheat day, it's just another day. And if you're going to have
• 25:46
  a day where that's going to happen, you understand, okay,
• 25:49
  that's going to happen that day. We're going to go to a birthday
• 25:52
  party and pig out, have cake and all this stuff. But don't go to
• 25:56
  one every day. Most of the days are not birthday parties, and
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  it's fine to have that one and go do that. But you can have
• 26:07
  that off week, and then go, okay, I had an off week. How do
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  I get back on track? What are the basic things I need to do in
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  those steps? So absolutely, I think, there's a lot to be said
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  in there, and that's probably a whole show in itself around goal
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  setting. But lately, that's been a lot of the mantra I've had.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Yeah. So many nuggets of great ideas of how to
• 26:33
  meet your goals and progress through that positive action. So
• 26:38
  many gems that you put in in todays interview, and I'm so
• 26:44
  happy about all that. I know the audience is definitely gonna
• 26:49
  love all the gems that you make with The Purpose and Progress
• 26:55
  podcast. How could our audience connect with you?
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  Benjamin Speich:: my website is just speichconsulting.com. I'm
• 27:03
  very active on LinkedIn, of course, in doing those things.
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  I've kind of taken a little bit of a break off the TikTok and
• 27:10
  that stuff, but I do want to get back in there. I co-founded
• 27:13
  another business recently, and so I've been head down in that,
• 27:18
  and so pick and choose where I put things out. But yeah,
• 27:21
  finding me online is . There's not a lot of them out there.
• 27:27
  It's unique enough name that you can find. And then, yeah, just
• 27:32
  reaching out. I love talking to people. I have never turned down
• 27:35
  a calendar invite to get on the phone and chat with people. I
• 27:38
  just I think that every conversation, you can take
• 27:41
  something away from, either share, or talk about it, or
• 27:46
  repurpose that into some nugget of learning for other people as
• 27:50
  well. I absolutely enjoy talking to as many people as I can.
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  Dr. Jim Price:: Thank you so much, Benjamin. It's definitely
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  absolute pleasure to have you on the show. And as always, we
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  always want to push motivational, inspirational
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  messages about positive progress, taking steps, actions,
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  just like we talk about, and overcoming obstacles too. That's
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  Thank you for joining me on this episode of The Purpose in
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