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One Piece, 865-868 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one Piece episodes Who Boy episodes eight sixty five
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  Speaker 1: through eight sixty eight. Dark King's Direct Precept, the battle
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  Speaker 1: against Katekori turns around. Finally he returns Sanji, the Man
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  Speaker 1: will stop the Emperor of the Sea, lurking in the darkness,
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  Speaker 1: an assassin targeting Lofy, and one man's determination. Category's deadly
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  Speaker 1: big fight. It's very funny when you look at these titles,
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  Speaker 1: how much they promise and how that isn't necessarily what
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  Speaker 1: they deliver. I actually quite enjoyed these episodes, but they
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  Speaker 1: really say a lot and then don't do that misleading.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I
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  Speaker 1: am Natasha. Thank you very much to Mina for commissioning
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  Speaker 1: today's episode. Lena, if you are out there, appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: very very much. So, yeah, four episodes today, and it
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  Speaker 1: was really, honestly such a treat to just get to
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  Speaker 1: watch four in a row. I don't know why four
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  Speaker 1: feels like so much more of a binge than three does,
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  Speaker 1: but it really was like luxurious where I was sort
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  Speaker 1: of just laying there enjoying the episode. Watching it with
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  Speaker 1: my dogs, and I started to be like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm almost done. I think this is the last one.
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  Speaker 1: And then I checked and there was one more, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like n and I just snuggled down again
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  Speaker 1: and got to keep watching. So when I say that,
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  Speaker 1: like these promise a lot, these titles and don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: deliver Sanji the Man Wholls Stop the Emperor of the Sea,
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  Speaker 1: it just makes sound like he's gonna actually like do
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  Speaker 1: the thing. Yet you know, no, he doesn't. Category's deadly
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  Speaker 1: big fight is weird because like he's been fighting this
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  Speaker 1: entire time, and that doesn't really change. I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be who he's targeting sort of changes, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But even so, but let's begin at the beginning. So
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  Speaker 1: the first of these three episodes, Loofy is continuing to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to use the observation Hockey. And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: when I say figuring out how to use it, this
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  Speaker 1: makes it sound like he is able to use it
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  Speaker 1: at all, and that's not necessarily true. There comes a
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  Speaker 1: point where he is starting to be able to tune
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  Speaker 1: into it. But I really really accept that this would
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  Speaker 1: be difficult for Loofy. You know, like it is just
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  Speaker 1: the antithesis of his personality to slow down and like
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  Speaker 1: look around him and really perceive. And I can't be
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  Speaker 1: surprised that this is something that he I don't even
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  Speaker 1: want to say necessarily just that he had difficulty with,
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  Speaker 1: but also that like it's something that he might not
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  Speaker 1: have thought was as important. You know, that this might
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  Speaker 1: be something that he sort of sidelined mentally as like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would be cool and everything, But I've got the
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  Speaker 1: other types of hockey that are great, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: really need all of them, so I'll focus on the
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  Speaker 1: one that's for direct conflict and that will be plenty.
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  Speaker 1: And I can understand why he would think that, And eventually,
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  Speaker 1: when there comes a point where it seems like he
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  Speaker 1: is learning how to actually use it, Katakori is very
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  Speaker 1: clearly like, oh shit. And I found it sort of
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  Speaker 1: interesting to watch his attitude because I wondered if there
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  Speaker 1: was going to be anything in him that was sort
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  Speaker 1: of like, I'm I welcome the leveling up of my opponent.
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  Speaker 1: We're on an equal playing field now, And maybe he
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  Speaker 1: would kind of enjoy seeing this because there are opponents
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  Speaker 1: that are like they they're more interested in the challenge
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  Speaker 1: than they are in the outcome, right, and he strikes
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  Speaker 1: me as that type. But we don't really get enough
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  Speaker 1: of Loofy actually managing that to see it's we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. There's a character that Florian DMed me
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  Speaker 1: about and said that he has like dolorous umbrage levels
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  Speaker 1: of hatred for this woman, this girl, this little girl,
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  Speaker 1: and it's Flambey and she I have to imagine that
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  Speaker 1: more is going to happen with her because she just
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  Speaker 1: she seems like a character that a writer like Oda
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  Speaker 1: would really love. And what I mean by that is
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  Speaker 1: that she can be thrown in kind of anywhere that
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  Speaker 1: you really want to fuck up somebody's day. She's an
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  Speaker 1: agent of chaos in a way that means she can
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  Speaker 1: almost be used like a Dio six makana to just
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  Speaker 1: like make whatever happen or not happen, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: depends on whatever it is that you're actually looking to accomplish.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't help, but like, I can't help but
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  Speaker 1: worry about that a little bit in terms of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see if I'm completely off base here,
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  Speaker 1: because it's certainly possible, but it's sort of odd and
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  Speaker 1: I may have missed this, so forgive me if I
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  Speaker 1: if I should know, and I don't, But how did
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  Speaker 1: she get in the mirror world? It's her and like
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  Speaker 1: a cadre of hangers on, you know, they all seem
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  Speaker 1: to just be like her friends. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be that she was part of the
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  Speaker 1: crowd that was in there earlier and they just because
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  Speaker 1: there had been a bunch of people that came in
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  Speaker 1: with Lufy and Katakori and I, honestly, thinking back, don't
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  Speaker 1: recall how we separated from them so utterly. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's simply that they were like there or the whole
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  Speaker 1: time and they just weren't getting involved until now. But basically,
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  Speaker 1: Katakouri has this weird like motivation that it's odd. So
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  Speaker 1: essentially her driving desire is that she wants to be
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  Speaker 1: beloved by her big brothers and big sisters as the
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  Speaker 1: favorite little sister. And honestly, we haven't met that many
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  Speaker 1: like little sister or little brother types to know who
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  Speaker 1: she's even really up against here, But it's just very
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  Speaker 1: much like she's constantly talking about how cute she is
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  Speaker 1: and the guys that she is surrounding herself with are
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  Speaker 1: all thinking that she's like adorable and encouraging her, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that Florian says, well, there was a big
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  Speaker 1: first wave that was supposed to board the sunny and
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  Speaker 1: Lufy ran away and only Category was able to follow quickly. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so they are just still in there. Okay, that's like
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  Speaker 1: vaguely what I thought, but I couldn't quite remember. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So she because she has this fixation on being the favorite,
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  Speaker 1: this has resulted in her wanting to do things that
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  Speaker 1: will make Kateakori happy, and she admires him greatly, So
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  Speaker 1: in her mind, what's gonna do this is I will
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  Speaker 1: help him win this fight against Lufy. Now, I want
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  Speaker 1: to be clear, it's not really that she even thinks
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  Speaker 1: of it as helping him win the fight, because in
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  Speaker 1: her mind, of course he's going to win. That's not
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  Speaker 1: even a question. It's simply that Kateakori is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: always look flawless and the fact that Lufy is still
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  Speaker 1: up and walking around and challenging him this has taken
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  Speaker 1: too long. Category. It doesn't look good for Lufy to
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  Speaker 1: be presenting this much of a challenge. So what she
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  Speaker 1: wants to do is simply throw Loufy off just enough
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  Speaker 1: that Kategory is finally able to end things and keep
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  Speaker 1: his reputations as this incredible, unbeatable fighter solid, and that
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  Speaker 1: he will like win the fight, turn around, see her
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  Speaker 1: and realize what she did for him, and be super
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  Speaker 1: grateful and then be like, oh, you truly are my
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  Speaker 1: favorite little sister. And like anybody who has any knowledge
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  Speaker 1: and understanding of Kategory's personality would know that that is
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  Speaker 1: not what he would do. It's so blindingly obvious. This
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  Speaker 1: is not a dude who wants to win at any cost.
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  Speaker 1: This is a guy who wants to to actually be better.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if you win if it's not
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  Speaker 1: valid to him. There are some people that's not what
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  Speaker 1: counts at all, you know, they just want to look
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  Speaker 1: like they want And that's apparently what she's like, because
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't understand this at all, but she's having these
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  Speaker 1: like fantasies in her head about how like she'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to jump into his arms and they'll hug and
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  Speaker 1: it'll be a moment of him thanking her for you know,
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  Speaker 1: just doing a little bit of a nudge. And it's
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  Speaker 1: odd because like I get that it's meant to be platonic,
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  Speaker 1: but the vibe of this is so like bordering on
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  Speaker 1: romantic in the way that it's done that it gets
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  Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable a couple times. And it just struck
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  Speaker 1: me that, like, we really need a different kind of
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  Speaker 1: imagery for a platonic love versus romantic love, because we
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  Speaker 1: can't just keep using like pink fluffy hearts for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's too confusing. I don't like it. And this like
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  Speaker 1: desire for validation from him, and the way that she
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  Speaker 1: reacts when he rejects her feels like the reaction to
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  Speaker 1: a romantic rejection as well. It's just all very odd.
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  Speaker 1: So Loofy he is starting very, very incrementally to be
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  Speaker 1: able to go like we're having these flashbacks of him
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  Speaker 1: and Raleigh and Raley explaining you need to like zero
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  Speaker 1: in and focus on your attacker and what is driving
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  Speaker 1: each one of their attacks, that there's always a motivation
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  Speaker 1: and there are hints and if you really manage to
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  Speaker 1: slow down and don't just go wild attacking them, but
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  Speaker 1: focus in, you can spot those those tells and you
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  Speaker 1: can counter them. So Loofy is like, it's really, honestly, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I know I said this already, but I really really
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  Speaker 1: like getting to see him figure out his fucking like
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  Speaker 1: level ups. It's just really satisfying to have Loofy figuring
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  Speaker 1: this shit out in front of us, instead of suddenly
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  Speaker 1: appearing with a new ability out of nowhere. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a new ability out of nowhere that also is kind
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  Speaker 1: of baffling in its execution, so you have to kind
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  Speaker 1: of figure out exactly how this would even work, you
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  Speaker 1: know what this means. I just really enjoy the sussing
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  Speaker 1: out and thinking back and putting the pieces together of
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  Speaker 1: the lessons that he has been taught and how they
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  Speaker 1: apply now. It's really especially considering that after he faced
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  Speaker 1: Big Mom, I was saying, like, obviously Lufy is not
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  Speaker 1: up for it with Big Mom, Like he has to cook,
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  Speaker 1: he has to leave and come back. And I said
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  Speaker 1: something about how maybe you've got to take another two
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  Speaker 1: years and level up a little bit before you could
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  Speaker 1: face her again. Now, to be clear, even if he
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  Speaker 1: completely masters this particular type of hockey, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I think this makes him ready to go up
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  Speaker 1: against Big Mom. Either way, this is super useful for dodging,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's great for attacking unless
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  Speaker 1: she's out of her fugue state. I guess remind me,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, be she's got these two states. She's got
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  Speaker 1: the the hunger pangs, which is the one that she's
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  Speaker 1: in now, and she has the uh shit, what's the
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  Speaker 1: other one? Because we talked about this before, I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: is it supposed to be just during those two times
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  Speaker 1: when she's basically like in a rage or hunger pangs,
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  Speaker 1: those are the times where she's totally invulnerable and otherwise
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  Speaker 1: she will take damage. Or is it supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: that she's been invulnerable the whole entire time and it
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  Speaker 1: was just that one moment of breaking her mother's portrait
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  Speaker 1: that was like supposed to give us her being vulnerable,
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  Speaker 1: and we missed our window, and now that's closed. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember exactly how this goes. Saraphim says Oda is
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  Speaker 1: infamous for his dislike of the training arc that is
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  Speaker 1: the stable of shown in series, and it shows how
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  Speaker 1: much other writers use it as a crutch with how
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  Speaker 1: well he makes this sort of training work. You see.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is interesting because, like as you all know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't consume other anime. Really, the only other thing
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  Speaker 1: that I covered was Oh my god, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't have that kind of like burnt out
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  Speaker 1: so much in this same genre does this kind of
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  Speaker 1: thing that I'm bringing to watching this? And now that
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  Speaker 1: makes me really wonder, like would I feel differently about
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  Speaker 1: this if I were consuming a lot of other anime
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  Speaker 1: that was in this same type of shown in vain,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, is this something that other fans have
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  Speaker 1: liked to see? Or are a lot of fans of
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  Speaker 1: One Piece big consumers and feel like word of this
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  Speaker 1: type of thing themselves, and so they had the opposite
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  Speaker 1: response that I did to this. It's just a really
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  Speaker 1: I always find this sort of thing really interesting because
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  Speaker 1: there are genres that are so specific in the way
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  Speaker 1: that fans react to things and that I am not
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  Speaker 1: a part of at all. And so when I come
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  Speaker 1: into it and I have the response I do to something,
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  Speaker 1: finding out that like, oh, yeah, well this is sort
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  Speaker 1: of a staple trope in this genre or you know whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I just like really enjoy discovering that there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: a whole sort of like discussion that's happening already around this.
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  Speaker 1: It's I don't know, there's something nice about finding out
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  Speaker 1: that there are that there are other fandoms and like
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  Speaker 1: genre debates and whatnot that I'm not even involved in.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me feel like there's a big, wide world
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  Speaker 1: out there that I haven't even begun to touch on
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  Speaker 1: some of this stuff yet, that even in my old age,
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  Speaker 1: I might still be like finding new shit, getting in
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  Speaker 1: arguments with new people. The only time she isn't nigh
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  Speaker 1: and vulnerable was when she was in a daze over
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  Speaker 1: Mother Carmel's picture. Okay, Florian says, there's always a training
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  Speaker 1: arc when it's a fighting show at least, but there
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  Speaker 1: are good ones. I think Oda could make it good,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm fine with these flashbacks like here. Sarahim says, No,
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  Speaker 1: most love how Oda handles it. Generally, the training arc
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  Speaker 1: in other anime is not bad, just kind of decent
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  Speaker 1: at best, and more just set up for the real action,
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  Speaker 1: while Oda makes it part of the action. I could
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  Speaker 1: see that where it's sort of like, look, watching them
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  Speaker 1: level up can be fun, but we know that they
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  Speaker 1: will eventually get there and that then they have to
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  Speaker 1: fight the big bad. Can we just do that? And
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  Speaker 1: so he has sort of found a way to like
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  Speaker 1: shortcut it. Yeah, Okay, that does make sense, And like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I really do enjoy the fact that we're
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of this fight and we are seeing
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  Speaker 1: the way that he is applying what he was taught. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is very interesting to me. I am
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  Speaker 1: how to say this, I want I was about to
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  Speaker 1: say I'm looking forward to getting through the end of
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  Speaker 1: the series, but that's not really what I mean. I
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  Speaker 1: am looking forward to getting to a point where I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry so much about getting spoiled and
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  Speaker 1: can participate more in the conversations that are happening with
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  Speaker 1: the show. And it's gonna be a very tenuous thing
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  Speaker 1: because I know the show is still running, so it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: not like I will ever really reach a point where
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  Speaker 1: I'm completely clear and there's no risk of spoilers like
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  Speaker 1: probably that like will be a difficult thing to a balance.
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  Speaker 1: But I am really interested in how other people respond
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  Speaker 1: to the characters and the arcs and stuff, because they
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  Speaker 1: have their own like baggage that they're bringing to it
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  Speaker 1: from other properties that they've watched and things that they're
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  Speaker 1: comparing it all to. So, yeah, that's that's all very
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me. I don't know, so Anyway, I was
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  Speaker 1: saying that Flombay is just really misreading her brother and
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  Speaker 1: just thinks that all he cares about is actually winning
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  Speaker 1: and his image, and that is not the case. So
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  Speaker 1: Lufi starts to be able to dodge him, and Katakuri
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  Speaker 1: is like, no way, oh shit, And at another point
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  Speaker 1: he like lobs one at Lufy and he does hit him,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like okay, okay. Hold On tries again, missus
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  Speaker 1: and he's like all right. So it's true he's starting
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  Speaker 1: to figure out the observation hockey, but it's not consistent.
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  Speaker 1: He isn't in control of it yet he's able to
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  Speaker 1: get it to a point. Meanwhile, Flambay is over here.
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  Speaker 1: She's got these needles that I guess she's like blowing
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  Speaker 1: like blow darts kind of thing. It's her, and she's
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  Speaker 1: got all these guys around her who are like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember if they're actually wielding weapons themselves, but they
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  Speaker 1: are all cheering her on as if they are like
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  Speaker 1: nine years old. It's very odd. And so she's shooting
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  Speaker 1: Loofy with these needles to try and distract him and
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  Speaker 1: get him off his game, so to speak, ruin his
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  Speaker 1: focus so that Loofy is just taken down easily, and
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  Speaker 1: there's just a lot of like the camera going over
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  Speaker 1: to her and them talking about how stupid he looks.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't even know what happened to him. Look at
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  Speaker 1: what an idiot he is, bleeding all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's it's really weird dialogue because it's like
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  Speaker 1: the reaction in a way of people who've just played
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  Speaker 1: like a prank, but that they're rooting for somebody to
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  Speaker 1: actually die really, you know. And uh, yeah, she just
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  Speaker 1: she really sucks. And I'm wondering how old she's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be because the way that she's illustrated, she's giving
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  Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen, but I feel like the way
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  Speaker 1: she's behaving is giving more like nine, you know, which
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot, but if you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like that is a big difference. And the way that
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  Speaker 1: this works out is that eventually there's one spot where
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  Speaker 1: I as well as Flambay, we both thought that Lufy
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  Speaker 1: had dodged her needle, but then it seems that he
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  Speaker 1: just literally falls down like that's wasn't a dodge so
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: much as him simply collapsing. Ooh, Saraphim says, Wicki says
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: she's fifteen. Yikes, she is a very immature fifteen. Holy shit,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. Girl. Oof get a life the way that
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  Speaker 1: I had better shit to do when I was fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, so category eventually he not only lands an attack
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  Speaker 1: on Loofy, he starts a new attack. I think that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen mochi aneemie, which is awful again, watching
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  Speaker 1: Lufy get the like the fucking blood beaten out of
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  Speaker 1: his body, it's really rough. At the very least, this
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  Speaker 1: isn't like it was at the start, where he's getting
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  Speaker 1: countered by the exact same moves coming from Kategori, which
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: was particularly embarrassing, you know, So it's not like that,
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  Speaker 1: But it's just Lufy is so much more tired and
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  Speaker 1: worn out that even though Kategori is landing fair blows,
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  Speaker 1: it still feels sort of like unfair because Lufy is
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: so weakened that I'm just sort of like, you don't
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: need to go this hard, But the truth is yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: he does, because Lufy just keeps getting the fuck back
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: up again every time. And as they're fighting, this I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: thought was an amazing detail. And then later on we
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: have another whole thing going on with this, but Kua
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Koori is punching all these mirrors as well, so that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's like there there isn't a point of escape, not
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that Lufy could jump through those mirrors without let but
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: nevertheless closing any areas of exit, which and later on
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: when we're with Oven, he has one particular huge mirror
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and he's like, this is where the straw hat has
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to come back through. So I need all of y'all
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to go into your homes and break every mirror that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you have so that he has nowhere to go but
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: through here. And somebody in the crowd is like, but
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: some of those are heirlooms, Like, we don't want to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: destroy them, and he says, okay, well, if you don't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: want to break it, just put it in the ocean,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: which at first my instinct was sort of like, that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: not really going to keep him out, is it, And
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: then I realize he can't swim because of the freaking
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: devil fruit, so unless he's got somebody to like swim
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: him to the surface, that would be pretty effective, actually.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But it was just an interesting thing to have somebody
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: who's just like I kind of don't want to do
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that because this is my great great grandma's mirror. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: like this as a means of keeping it that there
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: might be other exits for Lufy after all, despite what
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Oven is trying to do, and that it isn't even
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: accidentally going to be like, oh, we overlooked a mirror
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that it's going to be maybe somebody just really likes
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: their mirror. For God's sake, you know, I just thought
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that was kind of funny. So uh. Anyway, eventually kind
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of Cory spots Flambay and her friends, and she's fucking
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: pure a wedding and so proud of herself and just
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: waiting for him to patter on the head. And he
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: is pissed. And it's wild, you guys, because Kateakuri, you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: he's hidden his mouth for this whole time until we
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: see him eating the donuts. And I didn't, you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I was saying that when we finally have the moment
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of him, nobody is allowed to watch me eat that
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: delivery is still funny that I couldn't tell if it
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be like only the shame about his
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: mouth or if it was also a shame about the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: binge eating or what you know. Well, Fumbay decides the instant,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the instant that Kateakuri tells her you fucked up, she
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is going to turn around and start making fun of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: him in the way that he was made fun of
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: when he was like in grade school and calls him
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a Pelican eel mouth, which I think I compared him
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to a pelican myself. I did not know that a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Pelican eel was a thing, but considering his teeth, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense that comparison. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: she's like mad because she starts to just basically yell,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like I can't believe I ever thought you were cool,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You're pathetic. This is embarrassing. The one eighty that she
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: does is it's like a dude hitting on you in
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: DMS on like Plenty of Fish or something, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: where one second you are the hottest bitch alive and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: he cannot like stop telling you how beautiful and how
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: he wants to meet you, and then you decide to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like draw any sort of boundary and now you're just
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a fat cunt who's gonna die alone. You know. It's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: just like that exact type of vibe where it's girl,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you need therapy. Sometime's wrong with you, like clearly. So anyway,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we kind of have this weird resolution. I hesitate to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: use that word, but I guess where Like the camera
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: goes away and comes back and we basically just see
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: her and all of her friends passed out on the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: ground like Category had beat the shit out of them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that it's handled this way because we
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: just don't want to watch a grown ass man beat
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: up a child, which I think is probably true. You know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think this is probably the best way to handle it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a real it's a moment ooh sorry,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: given their mom I fully see a lot of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kids being very mature, that's true. Oh right, Florian is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: reminding me Conqueror's hockey. That's what knocked them out. I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: forgot all about the Conqueror's hockey. How could I forget that?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Because movie starts to like basically, uh, what's the word
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of He's like powering it up, and I feel like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's Flambay, Who's like, wait, he can do that, Like
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: she's watching him. And I had a moment of complete
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: brain fart where I was just like, oh, yeah, we
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just cut back. Sorry, guys, it's a there's a lot
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: going on in these three episodes actually considering that, like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: by the end, we haven't really made that much progress
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: into a new direction, but it's still like a lot
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is happening in the meantime, if you get what I'm saying.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So anyway, forgive me, but yeah, the emperors. So we
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: got the Emperor's hockey, We've got the observation hockey, We've
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: got the armament hockey. Are there other hockeys that we
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: haven't there have to be right, I guess you guys
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: can't really tell me that. I don't know if that's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a spoiler. Florian says, in these four episodes, Oh, you're right, Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it is that I watched four
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and so it's just a little bit more to keep
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: track of than usual. Seraphim says, not just loofy, This
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: was Loofy and Category both unleashing it to take care
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: of the scubs, messing with their fight. Was I supposed
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to say scrubs, Saraphim? Were you gonna say scrubs? That's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: not used enough anymore. Oh. Also, Category like injures himself
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because he wants to even things out so that's also
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: one of the things that like Flombay throws in his face.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: It's just I can't believe that you would stab yourself.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Why would you even do because she has no concept
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: of like honor or a fair fight in any way.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's right because the fact that the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: two of them team up against her for a second. Look,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I've been saying that I'm pleasantly surprised by category for
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a minute, and I stand by that shit. He just
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I really thought he was going to be a certain
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: type and he is in ways, but it's very much
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: subverted with a bunch of other little things that I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: think are very fun, and also getting to see him,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: like with that crazy mouth as a kid, and he
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: basically is going through the exact same shit as what
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Pudding went through. And I couldn't help but be like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you'd really think that growing up there would be too
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: many freaks for the kids to even make fun of,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like all of Big Mom's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: children look bonkers, and all of them, like there are
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: some I guess that are like a little more normal
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: looking than others, but it just feels like, how do
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: they choose what to make fun of when everybody is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a weirdo because of the way they are bred, like explicitly.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I wouldn't mind category maybe
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: switching sides. I just don't even see how that works,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: because he's so the whole thing for him, with the honor.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: How could he change sides and turn against his family.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't feel like that works.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: The only way that I feel like that could make
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: any sense is him feeling profoundly betrayed, and I just
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that would be. So yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: like cause low KEI, guys, I'm thinking about can we
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: get like another Mister two scenario, you know, somebody that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: had been a baddie but then they start to be likable,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of over here thinking like maybe this
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: is somebody we could just be bloods with, you know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: In the end. Hold on, I'm trying to make sure
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that I don't miss anything here, But it means that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I have to jump into the next episode with the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: ending where they both summon the hockey, because it's four
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: episodes away. Her yelling at these guys, Oh my god,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: she sucks her hair sticks out in a way that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I think, like meant to be reminiscent of pigtails, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it's not braided. It's just sort of like two sticks almost,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And she's like watching Loofy and making fun of him
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and kind of Corey says, how long are you going
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to keep doing this to yourself? And Lufy just says
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: until I beat your ass, which is honestly a great line.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: There's a line that I had meant to mention that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: had me laughing so hard both times I saw at y'all.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And it is a few episodes ago when Ovan is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: watching Beje like I don't know if it's when Bejet's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: ship is on land or what, but Ovans just watching him,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and he just goes, I hate that asshole, and I
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: lost my fucking shit, dude. He I forget that they're
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: allowed to say certain things on this show, so anytime
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: they bust out with one, it's already a bit of
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a shock. And then the delivery of that line in
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: particular was so like dead pan, you know, so completely
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just like this fucking guy. I that was extremely funny.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So okay, I'm jumping to the very end of episode four,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and right right Ray Lufy is saying to himself, sharpen
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: your senses, concentrate, and as he is saying this, he
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: gets fucking punched out out. He's trying so hard, he
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: really is. He's reminding me of like Arwyn a little
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: bit my dog, where I know she wants to be good,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: she really does, but she just you know, she has trouble.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: She is an add not unlike Lufy's actually, and as
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: he like makes himself stand back up again, another fist
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: slams into his face. Meanwhile, Katechory is continuing to do
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: like these donut attacks, which I continued to think is
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a response to Lufy being like, donuts aren't even MOCHI like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's kind of pettily being like he
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: heard Lufy say that, and it's just like, no, they're not.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: But you know what, I do what I want, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so he's just leaning into the donut shape of them.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Now that's you know, Katakory, because he's a layered enough character,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can assign that motivation to him
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and it isn't out of character actually, So oh my god,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to jump to the final episode and it's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: not letting me crunchy roll is so difficult sometimes, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: swear to God, oh right, And I had meant to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: mention too that watching Luviy get his ass beat is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: particularly hard because of the way he's being animated now,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with this giant black eye like a big puff. You know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it's we have we It's not like we haven't seen
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: him injured, but there's just something about the way that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he looks here that is particularly bedraggled. And so as
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: he's continuing to get slammed in the fucking face, I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: was just like, bro, look at his eye. Can you stop,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: It's gonna rupture or something. Okay, So yeah, here comes
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the part where Category is looking at Lufy and he's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't get it. Why did you let
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: up all of a sudden? I thought that you fucking
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: had this? And then he overhears Flombey laughing, and uh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying Flambey. I'm realizing now it says FLOMPEII. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was saying Flambey because that's like the name of the dessert.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this is like a is this a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: different way of saying that same thing, or is this
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: an error or what? It kind of makes sense her name,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: because the whole thing with that is that you light
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it on fire, and she is sort of trying to
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: like add fuel to the fire, so to speak. So
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: maybe that's why she has this name. I probably shouldn't
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: read too much into it, though, because a lot of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: people's names don't seem to have a lot to do
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: with like why they're doing what they're doing. But the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: attitude that she has and the way that she just
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: thinks that he's going to I wonder how many times
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: she has tried to do this sort of thing before
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to like earn love from her siblings and done something
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: that completely fucks the whole shit up. I have to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: think that this is like a sibling experience, that this
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that might happen when you're
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a little kid, that you're trying to do something nice
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and it just doesn't come across because you don't fully
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: understand the context of things, you know what I mean?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just my guess, but yeah, So
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: when he yells at her, she screams in face and
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: uh he turns and Lufy has stood back up again,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and Lufy says they won't be able to stand after
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: this anyway, and they both of their eyes sort of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: do the like thing the observation hockey, like you know
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: how that happens, and we see it like just coming
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: for both of them. So I guess the fact that,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm not sure if it's supposed to be that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: if Kadakuri can use it at the same time as Lufy,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that it keeps him from being knocked down, like Kadakouri
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: is doing an equal and opposite reaction in response to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Lufy that protects him somehow, or if it's just supposed
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to be that, like their their clash is Voldemore and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Harry's wands just like bouncing off each other and everybody
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: else is purely collateral damage. And that's all it was.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Because at first I thought it was him aiming for
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: them because of him saying they won't be able to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: stand after this, but I I don't think so. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: think maybe he is just saying, like I'm about to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: use this, it's gonna hit everybody. And I don't know
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the way that this type of hockey works, like if
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it's something that you can even aim or not. Could
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: he have only knocked down Kategori if there were you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: if there were other people that he didn't want to target,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: does he have the option to not target them or
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: is it just sort of like a bulldozer where it's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: all in one direction. And the way that Kateakori is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: smiling back at him. Initially I thought this was like
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Kadakori being like, yeah, fuck these assholes about his little sister,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I'm gonna knock him down too, because he's smiling,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and I think it's really meant to be more like,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: oh shit, this kid's proving to be a real challenge
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: after all. And he did get back up again, so
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I still have a worthy opponent that I'm up against.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And I thought that, you know, I thought he was down.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I thought that was it, And it turns out I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: get to keep playing for a little while, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I really I did think Lufy was aiming
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: for them, But now I think that maybe it was
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: just a side effect. All right, So I'm going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: back up a little bit and talk about what's going
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: excuse me, what's going on both with the Sonny and
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: with Soanjy because they have brought the cake all the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: way over Tony because that's where Big Mom is focused
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: right now, and it's you, guys. I did not understand
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: this choice. But Brooke, uh, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'll just to be clear those of you in the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: chat if I wasn't like responding to you. The chat
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: has lately been not updating unless I actually scroll, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it's inconsistent. So I didn't realize that you were continuing
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to leave messages. It just didn't update. There's a reason.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: In a big global popularity poll a few years ago,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: he was the highest ranked antagonist. Ooh, some of the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: weirder looking ones might get their looks from their devil
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: fruits that they didn't have as kids. That's true. Those
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: are the three at least that you know of so
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: far of hockey. And he has mot sheep, but he
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: likes donuts. Florence says, I like the way you think
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: about the donuts. Uh. Saraphim says, yes, it's flampey because
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: even her name has to be stupid. Ah, I kind
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of like that. Sarah says. The way conquerors hockey works
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is it can knock out people whose willpower is weaker
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: than the one using it. This was just both of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: them flexing on the scrubs knowing it wouldn't affect each
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: other as to only knocking out some people. It can
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: be done, we saw rarely doing it that way, but
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it takes training. Okay, So Kadaquory was smiling because he
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: was knocking his sister and all of her shitty friends out. Okay,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that's fun because like, come now, you know, I just
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: really don't like I don't want him to beat up
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: his little sister, but she something needs to happen to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: this bitch. I mean, come now, she's out here just ruin.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And then look, it'd be one thing if you just
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: fucked up his fight, but then you've got to like
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: mock him like that. Ew bitch, No, I don't think so.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So the so, the thing that I was about to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: say before before I realized there were a bunch of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: messages I hadn't seen, was that I wasn't totally sure
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: about this choice that Brooke makes. Because Sanji winds up
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: next to the Sonny and he hops on from Beggie's ship. Now,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: first of all, he is like gushing overnami, and we
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: do not see any reaction to that from Putting, which
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I call some bullshit on if Putting saw this, which
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't see how she wouldn't because she's on
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the ship with him, right. We had the little thing
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: earlier where one of the chefs is like, oh, I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: forgot to put the rosettes of cream on top, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: then he just hops up there with his magic power
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, does it. But as a ship is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: coming toward the sunny, he's making such a spectacle of
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: himself that all the way across the water, Nami is
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: going they have a noodle man on board, which is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the best. It is one of my favorite reactions that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: she's ever had to him. And she says something like
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: he's releasing some kind of weird power. Uh huh. Yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: well we won't talk about that, but yeah, I really
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: expected Putting to see him and be like, what the fuck, dude,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and for this to be something, and it doesn't. It's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: like she doesn't even see it, which I do not get.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And I also don't like the fact that he is
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: still reacting to Nami like this when Putting is right there,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: have some respect sir, honestly, Like come now, sure Pudding
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: is still struggling with occasionally blurting out that probably all
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: his friends are dead and that nothing is going to
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: work out for him. I understand that might be less
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: than optimal, but honestly, get over it. Grow up, Sanji.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Bitches are complicated, Okay, we contain multitudes, and sometimes, you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: considering the way that Nami behaves towards Sonji, we know
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that being treated like shit is not a deal breaker
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: for him at all, not even at all. So and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: there's also like this moment where Pudding is talking to Chiffon, who,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: by the way, is such a g I really love her,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: because Benji is still trying to be like, we're the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: survivors and we have to look out for ourselves, and
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Chiffon keeps having to be like, babe, no, no, we
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: made a promise and we owe them and we're not
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: gonna just take the fuck off. We have to go
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like follow through and if we die, we die having
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: kept our promise. And Beji is like, you know, like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say that he's argumentative, because it's
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: not exactly it. It's just more that his instinctive action
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is not that. And then when his wife is like, sweetie,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: we don't do that, he stops and he's like, oh shit,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: we don't do that. Okay, all right, we're gonna be good.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be good and we're gonna do what we said.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: You're right, And it's like he says something like, uh,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: this is why you're my woman, because you just keep
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: out doing yourself or something like that. Do they have
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: like the purest love story? I love the two of
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: them together so much, the way that they are just
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like supportive of one another. It's adorable. I really enjoy
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: him being the one that's the survivor and her talking
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: him out of it and him like agreeing with her
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and going, Okay, yeah, we'll do it your way. It's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: just nice. It's just nice. So anyway, Pudding says something
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to Cheffon about like how happy she is for her
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: having found somebody who loves her, and Cheffon is saying like,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: there's just no better feeling than that kind of devotion,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: you know. And Pudding says to Chiffon like make sure
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: not to let go of that feeling, and Chaffon says
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to her, yeah, you too, and Putting says, what do
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you mean, Putting? Who do you think you're fucking fooling?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? You fainted like twelve times today? What
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: do you what do you mean? What do you mean?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? What do you mean? Really? Come now?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Please please be fucking for real. So anyway, I keep
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like leaving this and coming back. But the thing that
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Brook says, because Sanchi has been away a minute, he's like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: how's everybody doing? Where are Carrot and Pedro? And Brook
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: panics and is like, oh, Pedro and Carrot are just
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: worn out and they're just sleeping below decks, resting up.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And I was just watching this like, no, you did not, Brook.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: He just lay like fully lies to his face. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: get that you don't want to just drop somebody's death
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: on a person, but like it seems like worse to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: do it this way and then drop it on them later.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think that maybe it's supposed to be that Soanji
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: is feeling so what's the word I want? He's feeling
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: so positive right now because they have the cake and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: they're about to like, you know, initiate the last measure
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of their plan. I think that Broke just doesn't want
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: to rain on Soanji's parade. I think, really that's all
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, It's just like we're about to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: have a win, and I don't want to ruin it
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: by telling him that somebody fucking died. But yeah, I
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. I question this as a decision. I don't know, man,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: this might be worse anyway. So what they decide to
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: do is continue to steer the ship away, and this
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: is part of where the conversation between Cheffon and Beggie
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: comes up. The ship with the cake, they get just
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: close enough that Mom smells it and she is just like,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: oh baby, what is that? And she turns and begins
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to follow the ship. And initially what they have been
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: going to do was stop at this one particular spot.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And it's Cheffon who's like, I don't think we should
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: do that, because I think she says something about how
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people that live on that island.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And once Mom comes to her senses, once she's eaten
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the cake, what do you think she's gonna do? So
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: she's basically like, we need to go somewhere that's a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: little bit more remote and also give room to the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: straw hats to get away. That it's like partially that
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: we need to draw her in a direction where they
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: can like have an out and she won't be able
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to turn around and just pick their fucking ship up
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: with one hand, because it feels like she could basically
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: do that. So that's the thing that she has to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like get beget to agree to, and he does. He
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: does eventually, but it was certainly not his instinct to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: do that, which I understand. And I am like, now
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that Big Mom has actually smelled the cake, she has
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: completely lost interest in the sonny, And now I don't
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: know what to expect from the Sonny because we don't
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: have a way. Like the whole thing had been, We're
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: going to meet Lufy on Cocao Island. Now everybody knows
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that plan, and the mirrors are getting broken, but there's
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: not a better way for Lufy to like rendezvous with
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the ship. I don't know if they have another option
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: than to go to Cacao Island if they want to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: pick him back up again. So I don't know, oh man,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: like the Seraphim says, but the straw Hats don't know
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that everyone knows about the plan? Yeah, well, Seraphim says,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: or did Sanji find out about it? I know that
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Lufy knows because Brule told him and in this fight,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Category tells him. Within these episodes as well, like, oh, yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: we all know you're going there.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: But.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: The folks on the ship don't know, so I don't.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think that Sonji knows and tells them, So
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: even if Louofy knows, it doesn't make a difference because
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the ship is still gonna wind up there, I guess.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: And the whole point is like, Okay, we'll scoop the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: ship up, and then when Lufy inevitably has to come
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: out of the only mirror that's left, we'll scoop him
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: up too. So yeah, I guess that's where we're going.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: But like, I wish there were a better way to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: do this, like if we could have I'm trying to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: think of like away, and all I can think of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: is some means of like grabbing the one mirror that's
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: onka Cow Island and pulling it on to the sunny
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: without having to step foot on the island, without having
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to bring the ship too close. And I can't think
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: of a way that would work. If we had Lufi
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: with us, his stretchy ability might be able to pull
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: this off, but I don't know if it would travel
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that far. It's sort of inconsistent. I'm trying to think
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: about anybody else's abilities and whether they could make this happen,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and I can't think of anything. The closest I could
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: get is like, is there something that Nami could do
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: with the weather to get it to blow over to them,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: you know, And it would have to be a real
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: fucking strong wind, or she'd have to get Zeus to
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: like pick it up and bring it. And I don't
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: know if he can pick things up. I mean, Mom
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: can ride on them, but Mom is like part of them,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know if that's the same thing. Oh.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: In speaking of which, Zeus's now Nami's servant, Like he
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: didn't agree to it within these episodes, but it's pretty
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: much implicit that that's going to happen, and he simultaneously
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: is terrified of her and hates her, but also still
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: really wants those yummy storm clouds. So he's basically been
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: strung out, is what's going on, which is fucked up,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I will mention, and I think I saw it too late.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: But that Florian last time, when we were talking about
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Zeus really loving those those thunderclouds to the point of
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: like being ready to betray his people, that with zeus
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: being made out of a piece of Big Mom's soul,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: that that's actually like varying character for her as well,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of like craving and hunger for something, And
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that hadn't occurred to me that they could have the
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: same weaknesses that being Mom has. But that makes a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: lot of sense. So I'm trying to see because there's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of back and forth with the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: children of Big Mom. This episode, we have got Smoothie
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: who is out here causing some havoc. Paro Sparrow is
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: assigning Smoothie to basically like torment the straw hats on
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: their ship, and he what he says is essentially like
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I want you to drive them over the edge into madness,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: like essentially, and Smoothie, after she gets off the phone
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: with him, is like, why didn't he just ask for
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: that in the first place. If that was what he wanted,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I gonna do that. Smoothie remains very frightening to me.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And there are two other women that join her, but
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I think are called Citron and Cinnamon. They all have
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: like a similar enough outfit, but Smoothie and Citron and
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Cinnamon are not things that go together. I mean, I
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: guess citron could be in a smoothie and cinnamon and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I like a little, but like, it's weird that they
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: are sort of animated and presented as if they're grouping
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that falls into the same category and they really don't
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: make sense in that way. But yeah, so Smoothie is
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: on that assignment and she is going after the fucking
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: straw Hats hard. By the end of these four episodes,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: we've got Mondor who's freaking out back at home and like,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I correct me if I'm wrong, but Montor still hasn't
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: found out about how German Double sixx actually won that
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: other fight, right, Like he is still not aware of that. Yeah. Also,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: a thing that like at the beginning of these episodes
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: is revealed, well it's not revealed because we knew already,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: but uh, it's revealed to mont d'Or and a bunch
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: of the others about how the tamate box was like
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: a gift from the straw Hats and since it was
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the thing that like blew up the chateau, everybody is
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: believing that this was planned from the beginning on purpose
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: by the straw Hats, that the exploding of the chateau
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, basically we underestimated them so completely
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: when really what happened there had nothing to do with them. Yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: they gifted the box, but like there were other individuals
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: who caused it to go off. I will be honest, guys,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: this Tamate box thing is such a weird plot point
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: because it's like it's been dragged out enough. It's obviously
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: meant to mean something, but it's not in the story
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: consistently enough to get my attention, and it's not in
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the story consistently enough for me to really feel like
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I get what we're even doing with it. So whenever
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: it pops back in, I'm like, oh, that thing we're
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: still talking about that, Like, I get kind of annoyed
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: by it. I feel like this is a real weak
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: link that if we wanted to do something more with this,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: then we should have been leaning into it a bit harder.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: And if we're not doing anything with it, then why
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: are we doing anything with it? It just doesn't feel
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: balanced to me. I just don't I don't really get what.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Like at first, I thought it was gonna play the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: role of like a mcguffin, sort of in the style
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: of pulp fiction where you open the briefcase and everybody's
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: impressed by what's in there, but you never see what's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: in there, and it's just a thing, you know what
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I mean. I thought it would kind of do that,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and then it's become more of another thing that seems like, uh,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. It's in the mix in
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: a way that's it almost feels like a backdoor pilot
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: for something else, if that makes sense, Like if you've
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: ever seen an episode of something that was a backdoor pilot,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I think you get what I mean, where it's like,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not gonna happen.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't really like it. And so this whole
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: reveal of like, oh, they brought the tomate box and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: they did the thing. I don't like. We just don't
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: need this. There's plenty already on the table. Why is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: this necessary? I don't know. It just did not work
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: for me. Florian says it is the weirdest ODA never
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: misses except here in my opinion. Okay, I'm glad I'm
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: not the only one that feels that. Sarahim says, it
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: makes sense to me. We knew it was a big bomb.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: It's not a big we knew everything. This was just
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: them finding out. I know that. I mean I said that.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: That's not my point. It's it's the fact that it's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: not a big reveal, but that it's this. That's what
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I mean is that its function feels so like, oh yeah,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: we gotta squeeze this into the story. The fact that
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: the bomb went off and busted up the chateau isn't
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: even really that big a part of the original conflict
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: in the first place. Anyway, I forgot that even happened.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Purely what I was like thinking of with everything popping
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: off was putting failing to kill Sangy and then Lufy
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: leaping out of the cake and destroying it all going haywire.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: And I know that there was the explosion and a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: whole other thing happened, but that does not.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Feel important at all, and it doesn't feel like we
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: need another thing for them to be like, oh, so
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: the straw hats are even more intimidating because they did
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: this thing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like they We've already got enough and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird it doesn't fit to me. It
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: just doesn't really do anything. It's unnecessary and every time
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: it's brought up, it brings things to this screeching halt.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Like when we actually have the scenes of these people
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: fighting over the Tamante box as well, I was just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: sort of like, what is this? Why are you know?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Why are we watching this? And it's purely to have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: it go off, which you could have accomplished the destruction
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: of the chateau any number of ways, and this just
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: feels like a bizarre backward way to do it. Yeah,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just don't. I don't like it.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: So it's the one thing in this arc that I'm like,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: everything has been working super well, and then the Tamante
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: box gets brought up and I'm like, oh, that's not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: even part of this. Stop it, even though it is.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a pretty good track record
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: as far as the arcs go, because like usually there's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: a few things I can point to, you know, and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I've been impressed with how well this are considering the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: fact that, like if you had told me forty episodes
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: later that we would still be watching Mom crossing the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: ocean saying where's my wedding cake? I would have been like, Okay,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: count me out, you know, just as a like on
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: the surface, it just sounds like ooh rough, you know,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: but he has managed to have there be so many
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: other things going on that are actually interesting, with characters
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that we've actually started to really like. And that's the key,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I think, is to make these people like, how can
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: you not root for Bejet and how can you not
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: love putting Ensangi together? Do you remember fucking Rebecca? Oh
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: my god, what a complete waste of space. I will
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: never recover from how poorly that was handled on every level.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Worst character. Like I really dislike viv for a number
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: of reasons, but Rebecca is definitely like number one worst
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: character to me. I think it's also just the fact
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: we spent so much friggin' time on her her story
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: as well for something that's so weak sauce, I would
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: love to spend as much time with Chiffon and Beggi
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and Pound as we spent with Rebecca and her whole
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: history with her father and whatnot. Like, I would be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: fine with that because I actually like Chiffon and I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: actually want Pound to like be reunited with his daughter,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you know. And it's weirdly when you think about it,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: like kind of a similar plot line because it's a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: man who was kept from his daughter in this way
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: that he didn't have control over and his daughter not
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: knowing that's him, but he's like around and him desperately
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: wanting this relationship with her, Like it's a really similar thing,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: but it's actually people who are cool that I like.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: It can't be done, so thumbs up. I am so
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: sure that I'm forgetting something, guys, And I can't remember
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: what it is because they were four, it is a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: little bit more to track, but uh yeah, I don't know.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's anything that is very
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: like important, and I feel like I touched on most
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: of it, so if there's anything, I'll just have to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: bring it up next time. Ooh, Florian says, well, next
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: up live action? Oh shit, really it's not another one
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of these. Oh my god, hold on, I'm going yep,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: the twenty fourth. Oh, I'm excited. I'm so excited, guys.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to rewatch the first season just
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to like freshen myself up for it. I'm so stoked, smoker. Oh,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. Oh boy, Okay, okay, yay, Well,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I want more of this arc. I'm still probably gonna
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: watch the next episodes anyway, I'll just rewatch them before recording. Uh,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: but yeah, definitely, like very excited for the live action.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: That'll be fun. Sarah Fim says, now start the bedding
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: pool on if she will like live action, VIVI, I
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: really hope so. I feel like the show has done
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: a really good job of boiling down things that were
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: too bloated, and Viv I think you, like I've said before,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: on paper, she sounds really cool, and in action she wasn't.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: So if we just take the elements on paper and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: really lean into those and stop it with the constant
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: like cry screaming and incompetence, then we could we could
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: have something. You know, I think that could still work.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: So I hope. So, I hope that she's that they
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: just avoid what she fell into as the cartoon it
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: was just not We'll see. Oh boy, I'm excited. All right, everybody,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I have to wrap. Thank you all so much, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: until next time to the lum motherfuckers. That was an
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: unspoiled network past