Latest / The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories / Serial Killer Documentary - Gary Ridgway: The Green River Killer
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- 0:05Speaker 1: You're a loser, you're a coward, you're nobody, you're an animal.
- 0:11Speaker 2: These are relatives of victims of the Green River Killer.
- 0:16Speaker 3: May God have mercy on your pathetic soul because the
- 0:19Speaker 3: rest of us who know the truth about you won't.
- 0:22Speaker 2: The most prolific serial murderer America has ever known.
- 0:26Speaker 4: The one thing that I want you to know, I
- 0:28Speaker 4: was that daughter at home, waiting for my.
- 0:31Speaker 5: Mom to come home.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Whose 19-year reign of terror left the area surrounding Seattle
- 0:38Speaker 2: littered with corpses.
- 0:40Speaker 6: I don't wish for him to die.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I wish for him to have a long-suffering.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Cruel death. But who was the Green River Killer? And
- 0:49Speaker 2: was he born to kill?
- 0:51Speaker 7: When he went through the door and left to go
- 0:54Speaker 7: to work, he wasn't the man that I knew.
- 1:08Speaker 8: The old Highway 99, adjacent to Seattle's SeaTac Airport, 30.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Years ago, a notorious spot.
- 1:44Speaker 6: This area, back in the early 80s, had a very
- 1:50Speaker 6: transient population. There were topless bars over here. There were
- 1:54Speaker 6: a lot of hotels where you could rent rooms for
- 1:57Speaker 6: an hour or two.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Faye Brooks, then a detective assigned to sex crime cases,
- 2:05Speaker 2: was regularly called to the street known simply as The Strip.
- 2:11Speaker 6: There were a lot of young women who were working
- 2:18Speaker 6: the streets.
- 2:22Speaker 9: All the girls were young and some of them had
- 2:27Speaker 9: troubled pasts, but all of them are somebody's daughter and
- 2:31Speaker 9: somebody's sister.
- 2:33Speaker 6: A lot of the young girls had grown up in
- 2:39Speaker 6: abusive homes. That was why they were running away. And
- 2:44Speaker 6: I could relate to that. I'm a survivor of child
- 2:47Speaker 6: sex abuse, and there but for the grace of God
- 2:51Speaker 6: were I. And so I could certainly empathize with them,
- 2:53Speaker 6: and I also wanted.
- 2:54Speaker 5: To help them.
- 2:57Speaker 2: One such woman was Marsha Chapman, a street worker who
- 3:01Speaker 2: claimed to have been raped.
- 3:06Speaker 6: And the apartment building where she lived was raped.
- 3:17Speaker 10: Marsha was a beautiful, statuesque black woman. She was 31.
- 3:22Speaker 10: She had three children. She couldn't support them on the
- 3:26Speaker 10: job she could get, and she was working as a prostitute.
- 3:32Speaker 6: She was living in an apartment that was sparsely furnished,
- 3:38Speaker 6: so I think she was down on her luck. Seemed
- 3:42Speaker 6: to have a kind heart and was a nice person,
- 3:46Speaker 6: but under the circumstances, she did what she had to do.
- 3:48Speaker 11: To make ends meet.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Marsha's alleged rape was typical of the hazards working girls
- 3:54Speaker 2: on the strip faced. At the time, best-selling crime writer
- 4:00Speaker 2: Anne Rule lived just blocks from the area.
- 4:02Speaker 10: I would sometimes stop and warn them and say, do
- 4:09Speaker 10: you know what I do for a living? I write
- 4:10Speaker 10: about murder. and you don't have a chance out here,
- 4:14Speaker 10: how do you know who you're getting in with? And
- 4:17Speaker 10: usually they would just shrug and walk away.
- 4:23Speaker 2: In 1982, the dangers of working the strip would be
- 4:27Speaker 2: brought home by a discovery in the nearby Green River.
- 4:36Speaker 6: There was a man on the water in a boat,
- 4:41Speaker 6: and he saw underneath the water what he thought was
- 4:45Speaker 6: a mannequin. It wasn't a mannequin, it was a human being,
- 4:49Speaker 6: and there were two of them there. Well, one of
- 4:52Speaker 6: the victims in the water, her hand was just waving
- 4:56Speaker 6: with the current of the water. And it was like,
- 5:02Speaker 6: here I am, please help me. but of course it
- 5:07Speaker 6: was too late.
- 5:10Speaker 2: As police investigated the crime scene, they made another grim find.
- 5:15Speaker 6: Processing the scene where the victims were in the water
- 5:18Speaker 6: was where we found the third victim on the banks.
- 5:23Speaker 9: They were all within a few feet of each other,
- 5:26Speaker 9: and so clearly the same killer had put all three
- 5:29Speaker 9: of the bodies there.
- 5:31Speaker 2: All three women had been picked up from around the
- 5:34Speaker 2: strip by what the FBI dubbed an organized serial killer.
- 5:39Speaker 12: The organized offender was more planned, more premeditated, was able
- 5:43Speaker 12: to conceptualize crimes and carry them out very efficiently, mainly
- 5:48Speaker 12: because of the fact that they had very little feeling
- 5:51Speaker 12: for another human being. They looked at a victim as
- 5:55Speaker 12: an object for their excitement. Basically, you're talking about a
- 5:58Speaker 12: sexual psychopath.
- 6:01Speaker 2: The victims were 16-year-old Opal Mills, 17-year-old Cynthia Jean Hinds,
- 6:10Speaker 2: and 31-year-old Marsha Chapman.
- 6:15Speaker 6: When I found out that it was Marsha, I was,
- 6:18Speaker 6: I don't think I had any words that I could say.
- 6:23Speaker 6: It was like, oh my God, somebody killed her. It
- 6:30Speaker 6: was really sad.
- 6:33Speaker 10: We did not know this was only the beginning of
- 6:36Speaker 10: a reign of terror, and we wouldn't know who was
- 6:40Speaker 10: doing this for a very long time.
- 6:44Speaker 2: On Seattle's strip, the Green River Killer had found a
- 6:48Speaker 2: rich hunting ground that would enable him to amass a
- 6:51Speaker 2: body count unrivaled by any serial killer in American history.
- 7:05Speaker 2: By autumn of 1982, the bodies of five young women
- 7:09Speaker 2: had been discovered in or beside Seattle's Green River. They
- 7:14Speaker 2: had disappeared from a notorious highway known as The Strip,
- 7:18Speaker 2: an area where prostitution was rife. And the Green River
- 7:23Speaker 2: Killer had only just begun. On the 15th of September, 1982,
- 7:36Speaker 2: 18-year-old Mary Bridget Meehan vanishes.
- 7:42Speaker 10: Bridget was the much-loved daughter of a Catholic family in Bellevue,
- 7:47Speaker 10: a very rich suburb of Seattle. She skipped school a lot.
- 7:53Speaker 10: She joined up with a boyfriend named Ray, and they
- 7:58Speaker 10: were living in a cheap motel on Highway 99. She left.
- 8:07Speaker 10: I think she was still possibly turning a few tricks.
- 8:12Speaker 10: And she didn't come back. Her family was so upset
- 8:15Speaker 10: because she was eight and a half months pregnant.
- 8:20Speaker 13: To every serial killer, human beings are objects. There's no
- 8:25Speaker 13: emotional connection. There's nothing there.
- 8:31Speaker 2: On the 20th of September, another girl, 15-year-old Deborah Lorraine
- 8:36Speaker 2: Estes disappeared. Yet police were still unable to identify a killer.
- 8:44Speaker 6: This was the area that I was working in. This
- 8:46Speaker 6: is the area where the bulk of the Green River
- 8:48Speaker 6: victims were.
- 8:49Speaker 11: Picked up from.
- 8:51Speaker 6: And we would sit here and look, you know, trying
- 8:55Speaker 6: to identify who might be the suspect. We had very
- 8:59Speaker 6: dedicated detectives who were determined to solve this case.
- 9:08Speaker 2: On the 26th of September, 16-year-old Linda Jane Rule vanishes.
- 9:15Speaker 10: Linda Rule was a slender, blonde girl who lived up
- 9:18Speaker 10: in the North End. She had been working the streets,
- 9:22Speaker 10: and she had a boyfriend who kind of served as
- 9:25Speaker 10: a pimp. She disappeared from an area near the Northgate Mall.
- 9:34Speaker 10: Like all serial killers, he seemed to have the ability
- 9:40Speaker 10: to sense vulnerability in potential victims. He didn't take the
- 9:46Speaker 10: streetwise girls. He was looking for the younger women.
- 9:53Speaker 2: By the end of 1982, 15 girls would be missing
- 9:57Speaker 2: or found dead, and pressure was mounting. on the sheriff's
- 10:01Speaker 2: task force.
- 10:03Speaker 14: People hoped that law enforcement would be successful. There were
- 10:07Speaker 14: different rumors that were passing around of who the person
- 10:10Speaker 14: might be. There was rampant speculation that it might be
- 10:14Speaker 14: even a law enforcement officer because of the easy access
- 10:17Speaker 14: that the individual.
- 10:18Speaker 11: Had to the number and variety of women in the community.
- 10:21Speaker 6: You know, the unfortunate thing is some of the women
- 10:28Speaker 6: of the street felt like the sheriff's office wasn't investigating
- 10:33Speaker 6: the case as hard as we could have because they
- 10:35Speaker 6: were street kids and runaways, and that's not true. Everybody
- 10:42Speaker 6: assigned to that investigation was committed to solving it. committed
- 10:47Speaker 6: to bringing this person to justice because these were, you know,
- 10:50Speaker 6: somebody's daughter, somebody's sister, somebody's mother, and we cared about them.
- 10:54Speaker 6: We cared about them like they were our own kids
- 10:56Speaker 6: or our own family members, and we wanted to solve it.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Then on the 30th of April, 1983, a young girl
- 11:08Speaker 2: was spotted being taken from the strip.
- 11:12Speaker 10: Maria Malvar, with her boyfriend, We're at a restaurant on
- 11:18Speaker 10: the highway. Her boyfriend went to make a phone call.
- 11:22Speaker 10: When he came back, Maria wasn't in the restaurant. And
- 11:26Speaker 10: he was very concerned, and he thought, well, I'll go
- 11:29Speaker 10: on the highway and see if I can find her.
- 11:33Speaker 10: And he realized that Maria was in the truck ahead
- 11:36Speaker 10: of him. There was a man driving, and then she
- 11:40Speaker 10: was talking to the man. And so he determined to
- 11:44Speaker 10: follow the truck because he wasn't sure what was going on.
- 11:46Speaker 10: He worried about her. And they got up to the
- 11:49Speaker 10: stoplight at Highway 99 and 216th. But when he turned left,
- 11:57Speaker 10: he couldn't see the car.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Marie's boyfriend returned with her family to search the streets
- 12:04Speaker 2: for the pickup truck she'd left in. And in a
- 12:08Speaker 2: quiet cul-de-sac, just a few blocks from the strip, they
- 12:12Speaker 2: found it. parked outside the modest home of a local
- 12:16Speaker 2: truck painter.
- 12:18Speaker 10: And they asked local police please to go there because
- 12:22Speaker 10: they believed Maria was in that house. One of the
- 12:26Speaker 10: sergeants did go there, knocked on the door. A man
- 12:30Speaker 10: answered and he said, there's nobody here but me. And
- 12:34Speaker 10: they didn't press it.
- 12:38Speaker 13: All serial killers have the ability to appear so normal
- 12:42Speaker 13: that they throw off even people who are considered experts.
- 12:46Speaker 13: The serial killer is the Olympiad of the pathological liar.
- 12:52Speaker 2: The man's details joined hundreds more in the task force's files.
- 12:57Speaker 2: A saliva swab would later be added. Still, girls continued
- 13:02Speaker 2: to vanish.
- 13:03Speaker 6: And the list kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
- 13:07Speaker 2: By June 1983, at least 26 girls had disappeared.
- 13:12Speaker 12: They learned from their crimes. As their murders grow in number,
- 13:16Speaker 12: their efficiency increases.
- 13:19Speaker 6: The remains were being found in secluded, quiet, dark areas.
- 13:25Speaker 2: That summer, five girls went missing.
- 13:29Speaker 12: By the time they were up to five or six
- 13:30Speaker 12: or ten homicides, they'd become very difficult to catch.
- 13:34Speaker 11: The fear was tremendous and deep throughout the entire community.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Autumn, five more vanished.
- 13:43Speaker 10: Some of them were in the mountain foothills. Some of
- 13:46Speaker 10: them were down in the Green River Valley.
- 13:48Speaker 6: He was, you know, ahead of us. We wanted to
- 13:52Speaker 6: catch him. We wanted to stop him.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Winter and spring 1984, four more girls gone.
- 14:01Speaker 10: There would be three or four or maybe even five
- 14:05Speaker 10: in one spot.
- 14:07Speaker 6: Unbelievable.
- 14:09Speaker 5: He was outsmarting the homicide detectives. Everybody was looking for him.
- 14:14Speaker 6: He was dumping women like they were garbage. This was
- 14:23Speaker 6: a gun site. It's not far from the airport. It's
- 14:26Speaker 6: not far from the strip where the young girls were missing.
- 14:29Speaker 6: In the evenings, it was dark, very secluded, very few
- 14:33Speaker 6: people came down here. You could come, dump something, and
- 14:37Speaker 6: be gone. And that's what happened in this location here.
- 14:44Speaker 6: They were just dumped.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Among the dozens of bodies found was the 16-year-old Linda
- 14:54Speaker 2: Jane Rule, her skeletal remains hidden under a bush. And
- 15:03Speaker 2: in the scrubland south of the airport, the fate of
- 15:06Speaker 2: the pregnant 18-year-old Mary Bridget Meehan was finally discovered.
- 15:11Speaker 10: Someone raped her, killed her, and buried her and her
- 15:17Speaker 10: unborn baby in a shallow grave on the west side
- 15:21Speaker 10: of the highway.
- 15:25Speaker 2: By spring 1984, the killer had amassed more than 40 victims.
- 15:31Speaker 2: But then something changed.
- 15:33Speaker 5: The killings continued. appeared to have stopped. Many thought that
- 15:41Speaker 5: he was gone.
- 15:42Speaker 15: It's incredibly unusual for a serial killer simply to stop killing.
- 15:47Speaker 15: A serial killer will usually only cease murder when he's
- 15:54Speaker 15: apprehended or when he dies himself.
- 15:56Speaker 2: In 1985, the truck painter from The House in the
- 16:07Speaker 2: Quiet Cul-de-sac, began dating 40-year-old divorced mother, Judith.
- 16:14Speaker 7: When I first met him, I thought he was quite
- 16:18Speaker 7: the gentleman and so polite and nice. He loved the
- 16:22Speaker 7: country music and the dancing. And he was always smiling.
- 16:27Speaker 7: He never got angry. And I just, Thought he was
- 16:34Speaker 7: the greatest. It was like love at first sight.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Within months, the house became Judith's home.
- 16:43Speaker 7: He offered to help me move and that I could
- 16:45Speaker 7: move in with him if I like. There was no
- 16:51Speaker 7: carpet in his house, so he let me pick out
- 16:54Speaker 7: some carpet. Because he had previous renters in there. And
- 16:59Speaker 7: he had.
- 16:59Speaker 11: Told me that....
- 17:02Speaker 7: The little one had wet on the carpet. The house
- 17:07Speaker 7: needed a woman's touch.
- 17:10Speaker 2: After three years living together, the couple wed.
- 17:15Speaker 7: We were married in 1988. It seemed like the perfect marriage.
- 17:22Speaker 7: He was good to my daughters, played with my grandchildren.
- 17:26Speaker 7: My dreams are coming true.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Judith would enjoy 13 happy years of marriage, while most
- 17:34Speaker 2: of the world forgot about the Green River Killer. Most,
- 17:39Speaker 2: that is, except the men and women of the Green
- 17:43Speaker 2: River Task Force. And in 2001, advances in DNA profiling
- 17:52Speaker 2: enabled them to compare samples taken from the early victims,
- 17:56Speaker 2: including Marsha Chapman, with swabs that had been taken from
- 18:00Speaker 2: several men questioned during the investigation.
- 18:06Speaker 6: This is the DNA from Marsha Chapman, and this is
- 18:09Speaker 6: the DNA from the Green River Killer. And we looked
- 18:13Speaker 6: at them and were like, they're the same. They're the same.
- 18:21Speaker 11: Scary which way?
- 18:21Speaker 9: MUSIC PLAYS.
- 18:28Speaker 7: I just, I couldn't believe it. I was just devastated
- 18:39Speaker 7: and in shock. I think I went into denial. I
- 18:46Speaker 7: wasn't believing it.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Only now would the world discover the shocking truth about
- 18:55Speaker 2: Judith's husband, Gary Ridgeway, the most prolific serial killer in
- 19:01Speaker 2: US history. During the 1980s, the mysterious Green River Killer
- 19:17Speaker 2: had prowled the red light district of Seattle strip unchecked,
- 19:21Speaker 2: amassing a terrifying body count. In 2001, A DNA match
- 19:29Speaker 2: had connected 52-year-old truck painter Gary Ridgeway with the first
- 19:34Speaker 2: few victims.
- 19:35Speaker 14: He had been identified as the most prolific serial killer
- 19:38Speaker 14: in the history of the United States. Each of us
- 19:41Speaker 14: recognized that this would be the biggest criminal case in
- 19:44Speaker 14: the history of the state of Washington.
- 19:49Speaker 2: The prosecution and defense teams would now be able to
- 19:52Speaker 2: interview the man suspected of over four dozen homicides.
- 19:58Speaker 5: I'm walking down a corridor and I'm going to open
- 20:00Speaker 5: the door and be introduced to the supposed Green River Killer.
- 20:07Speaker 5: a hundred things are going through your mind and wondering
- 20:09Speaker 5: what is it going to mean? Is he going to
- 20:11Speaker 5: be crying? Is he going to be crazy? And I
- 20:15Speaker 5: walked in and, and like, wow, this isn't what I expected.
- 20:23Speaker 10: All right.
- 20:24Speaker 4: Pretty good.
- 20:25Speaker 9: All of us kind of looked at each other and said,
- 20:27Speaker 9: that's the guy that's been eluding everybody for 20 years.
- 20:30Speaker 5: What was remarkable was that he was, he was so normal.
- 20:35Speaker 12: Sleep okay?
- 20:37Speaker 2: No, no.
- 20:39Speaker 10: Well, that didn't look like the Hilton in there.
- 20:40Speaker 4: I got a glimpse of it.
- 20:41Speaker 7: Well, it had a posturpedic mattress in there, so it
- 20:44Speaker 7: was good.
- 20:45Speaker 9: A little bit.
- 20:47Speaker 5: Hot in there, but.
- 20:50Speaker 5: If you did not know what he had done, you
- 20:54Speaker 5: would like him. The monster within him was well-hidden.
- 21:00Speaker 3: People want to ascribe extraordinary traits and qualities to these people.
- 21:07Speaker 3: These are, for the most part, very ordinary individuals, except
- 21:11Speaker 3: for the extraordinary crime that they get involved in.
- 21:18Speaker 2: So who was the suspected Green River Killer? Gary Ridgway
- 21:22Speaker 2: was born in 1949, the middle of three boys. He
- 21:31Speaker 2: lived in a small house not far from the strip.
- 21:35Speaker 9: His mom was kind of stay-at-home and then part-time. She
- 21:39Speaker 9: worked at a department store. His dad drove a bus
- 21:43Speaker 9: for the county.
- 21:45Speaker 5: Gary sometimes would ride with him on the bus, and
- 21:47Speaker 5: his dad would say, you know, see her, she's a prostitute, she's,
- 21:49Speaker 5: you know, the scum of the earth, and would berate
- 21:52Speaker 5: prostitutes and talk about how filthy and bad they were.
- 21:55Speaker 5: And then there are... a couple of episodes where Gary
- 21:59Speaker 5: recalls him leaving him in the vehicle while dad went
- 22:04Speaker 5: and had sex with a prostitute.
- 22:08Speaker 2: School friend, Terry Rochelle, recalls that Gary Ridgway was more
- 22:13Speaker 2: inward than his siblings.
- 22:16Speaker 16: His brother was very outgoing and, you know, a bright
- 22:19Speaker 16: personality and Gary was more quiet and.
- 22:22Speaker 6: Withdrawn, I would say is a good word.
- 22:25Speaker 16: He was just a little pipsqueak guy, just, you know,
- 22:27Speaker 16: somebody's little brother, basically, you know, you didn't pay a
- 22:30Speaker 16: whole lot of attention to him. Just kind of in
- 22:36Speaker 16: the shadows, I would say most of his life.
- 22:41Speaker 2: At school, the struggling Ridgeway failed to make an impression. However,
- 22:46Speaker 2: at parents' evenings, his mother Mary did.
- 22:51Speaker 16: All the women kind of sat back and looked at her.
- 22:53Speaker 16: It was strange because she would wear a big bouffant
- 22:56Speaker 16: hairdo and lots and lots of makeup, short skirts, which
- 23:01Speaker 16: were not really the style in those days, especially for
- 23:03Speaker 16: a mom. She just always seemed like she was trying
- 23:07Speaker 16: to be very glamorous and not like our moms at all.
- 23:11Speaker 9: I always remember her wearing kind of the tight shorts
- 23:16Speaker 9: and low-cut tops.
- 23:18Speaker 6: And longer hair. She was a very, very attractive lady.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Ridgeway admitted wetting the bed throughout his childhood and well
- 23:28Speaker 2: into his teens.
- 23:31Speaker 5: When he would wet the bed, his mother would put
- 23:33Speaker 5: him in the, have him get in the bathtub and
- 23:35Speaker 5: wash him and wash his genitals.
- 23:39Speaker 10: During one bath, um, her robe fell open and she
- 23:45Speaker 10: was naked underneath and he felt arousal at that and
- 23:48Speaker 10: at the same time knew that it probably wasn't that
- 23:52Speaker 10: wasn't a good thing to feel but he felt.
- 23:54Speaker 9: It he talked about having some sexual feelings towards her
- 23:59Speaker 9: he described in some detail watching her when she was
- 24:02Speaker 9: in a bathing suit and and looking at her and
- 24:05Speaker 9: thinking that she dressed pretty provocatively this.
- 24:10Speaker 13: Overly sexualized person washing her son's genitals, and you realize
- 24:17Speaker 13: that most teenage boys are having an awful time with
- 24:21Speaker 13: dealing with their own emerging sexuality, has to have had
- 24:25Speaker 13: an impact in some way.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Boys need to see their mothers as asexual. It is very,
- 24:32Speaker 3: very destabilizing for an adolescent boy to see his mother
- 24:35Speaker 3: in a sexual manner. It's very hard for an adolescent
- 24:38Speaker 3: boy to imagine his mother having sex with anybody, including
- 24:43Speaker 3: his father. And so when a mother behaves in a
- 24:46Speaker 3: sexualized or hyper-sexualized way, it's very unsettling for an adolescent boy.
- 24:52Speaker 2: As Ridgway got older, he started showing signs of destructive behavior,
- 24:57Speaker 2: starting fires. And as a teenager, he took his first
- 25:01Speaker 2: step towards murder.
- 25:05Speaker 9: He approached a first grader, a six-year-old boy that he
- 25:09Speaker 9: saw playing in a lot near his house. The boy
- 25:12Speaker 9: was dressed up playing cowboys and Indians, and he kind
- 25:15Speaker 9: of lured him into the bushes and completely unprovoked stabbed
- 25:21Speaker 9: the little boy in the stomach and nearly killed him.
- 25:28Speaker 9: He told the boy that he just wanted to know
- 25:30Speaker 9: what it felt like to kill somebody. And after he
- 25:32Speaker 9: stabbed him, he took the knife and wiped the blade
- 25:35Speaker 9: off on the little boy's shoulder and just walked away. Actually,
- 25:41Speaker 9: nobody ever connected him to that.
- 25:43Speaker 13: Serial killers need to have some concrete proof of what
- 25:49Speaker 13: they're doing. I mean, you can think about something, but
- 25:52Speaker 13: until you've done it, you don't know how it's going
- 25:54Speaker 13: to turn out. And so what the serial killer does
- 25:58Speaker 13: is experiment. Often they will commit an act like a
- 26:03Speaker 13: trial run.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Ridgeway eventually finished school two years late due to his
- 26:10Speaker 2: slow progress. The following year, age 21, he married his
- 26:16Speaker 2: steady girlfriend and joined the Navy.
- 26:19Speaker 9: When he returned from his deployment to the Philippines, His
- 26:23Speaker 9: wife admitted that she had had an affair with a
- 26:25Speaker 9: friend of theirs. That was when he first started kind
- 26:28Speaker 9: of referring to her as a whore and using other
- 26:32Speaker 9: derogatory terms. And that was kind of the beginning of
- 26:36Speaker 9: a series of relationships that never quite panned out for him.
- 26:41Speaker 2: During the early 1970s, Ridgway got a job spray painting
- 26:45Speaker 2: at the Kenworth Truck Manufacturers. He then met and married his.
- 26:49Speaker 9: Second wife, He was very much into having sex often, repeatedly,
- 26:55Speaker 9: throughout the day, as frequently pretty much as women would agree.
- 27:00Speaker 10: They would go out in the truck and he loved
- 27:03Speaker 10: to have sex in public where they could be discovered
- 27:07Speaker 10: at any time.
- 27:09Speaker 2: But after having a child, their relationship deteriorated.
- 27:15Speaker 5: His wife left him when his son was about five
- 27:19Speaker 5: and that really hurt him. and that was when he
- 27:23Speaker 5: started to go frequent prostitutes.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Ridgway claimed he became addicted to prostitutes. He had in
- 27:32Speaker 2: fact been quizzed by police about his activities on the
- 27:34Speaker 2: strip several times during the 80s, even passing a lie
- 27:39Speaker 2: detector test when grilled about the Green River murders.
- 27:45Speaker 10: When you're subject to someone without a conscience, who has
- 27:51Speaker 10: no regrets and no remorse and no real concern. They
- 27:54Speaker 10: can pass them.
- 27:57Speaker 5: He was a magnificent liar. He had an ability just
- 28:00Speaker 5: to go and talk, and he would just talk and
- 28:02Speaker 5: tell stories, and I, you know, for a while, I
- 28:06Speaker 5: assumed they were true.
- 28:08Speaker 7: And when I would go in to visit Gary at
- 28:10Speaker 7: the jail, he would tell me that everything's okay. He
- 28:16Speaker 7: didn't do it. He didn't hurt those women. He didn't
- 28:20Speaker 7: kill them. He didn't... And... I would believe him.
- 28:32Speaker 2: As he was questioned in 2001, Ridgway continued to protest
- 28:37Speaker 2: his innocence.
- 28:38Speaker 5: Up to this point, Gary had been maintaining that they
- 28:41Speaker 5: had the wrong person, that he had had sex with
- 28:44Speaker 5: many prostitutes, he hadn't killed any, and that was... essentially
- 28:47Speaker 5: going to be the defense.
- 28:51Speaker 2: But when forensic evidence surfaced, tying him to three more victims,
- 28:56Speaker 2: Ridgeway's story changed.
- 28:58Speaker 5: Myself and another attorney were in the meeting room waiting
- 29:01Speaker 5: for Mr.
- 29:01Speaker 11: Ridgeway.
- 29:02Speaker 5: I don't recall what we were talking about, but we
- 29:04Speaker 5: both had smiles on our faces when he walked in.
- 29:07Speaker 5: And he said, oh, you won't be smiling when we're done.
- 29:11Speaker 5: I've been lying to you all. I've been manipulating everyone
- 29:17Speaker 5: for all these years. I killed them all.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Only now would investigators discover the true shocking horror of
- 29:27Speaker 2: the Green River Killers' crimes. In 2003, 54-year-old truck painter
- 29:42Speaker 2: Gary Ridgway admitted he was the Green River Killer that
- 29:46Speaker 2: had eluded capture for almost two decades. A man responsible
- 29:50Speaker 2: for the murder of more than four dozen women. Faced
- 29:56Speaker 2: with the death penalty, Ridgway offered to tell the truth
- 30:00Speaker 2: about all his crimes in return for his life. On
- 30:06Speaker 2: behalf of the victims' families, who wanted to know the
- 30:09Speaker 2: fate of their loved ones, the prosecution agreed. Ridgway would
- 30:15Speaker 2: now reveal the true horror of his crimes. Investigators now
- 30:23Speaker 2: learned how the Green River Killer had so easily abducted
- 30:27Speaker 2: and killed his victims. even at the height of the
- 30:30Speaker 2: public terror.
- 30:35Speaker 6: He came across as being a very meek and mild,
- 30:39Speaker 6: safe person. As a matter of fact, in one situation,
- 30:43Speaker 6: he had his child in the car with him when
- 30:46Speaker 6: he picked up a prostitute.
- 30:50Speaker 10: He looks like a mousy little man. He doesn't look
- 30:53Speaker 10: like the kind of person that if you were a
- 30:56Speaker 10: prostitute that you would be afraid of.
- 31:00Speaker 6: They thought, well, he's a family man. He's safe. And
- 31:05Speaker 6: it turns out he wasn't.
- 31:10Speaker 5: He preferred to take them to his house. Some said
- 31:13Speaker 5: no to that. And they would drive to a remote location.
- 31:18Speaker 5: And he had a pickup truck with a canopy on
- 31:20Speaker 5: the back. And he would convince them to go into
- 31:24Speaker 5: the back of the canopy so they could have more
- 31:26Speaker 5: room to have But what he would do is once
- 31:30Speaker 5: he got them in the position either in his bed
- 31:33Speaker 5: at home where he had pictures of his son on
- 31:35Speaker 5: the wall and they felt a little more secure, or
- 31:38Speaker 5: whether they were just hopping in the back of the truck,
- 31:41Speaker 5: get naked, begin with oral sex. A missionary at some
- 31:47Speaker 5: point convinced them that he would be able to finish
- 31:51Speaker 5: sooner if they would agree to the rear entry position.
- 31:57Speaker 7: When I got through having a climax with her, I
- 32:03Speaker 7: jumped on her.
- 32:04Speaker 5: He hit his arm around the girl's neck.
- 32:07Speaker 4: How much are you pulling on her neck?
- 32:09Speaker 7: I'm pulling really hard on her neck.
- 32:11Speaker 4: How?
- 32:12Speaker 5: Just like this.
- 32:13Speaker 7: What are you saying to her?
- 32:14Speaker 6: Don't, don't, don't fight, don't fight, and I'll let you go.
- 32:21Speaker 5: And then choked him with his forearm.
- 32:23Speaker 9: I'm feeling, I gotta kill her, I gotta kill her,
- 32:26Speaker 9: I gotta kill her.
- 32:35Speaker 16: You'll need to go up to kind of like on
- 32:37Speaker 16: the top of the hill and pull in.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Ridgeway guided the investigators to where he dumped dozens of
- 32:45Speaker 2: young women.
- 32:51Speaker 14: I just drove in my pickup and camper and parked
- 32:55Speaker 14: it brought her body over and put it a little
- 32:59Speaker 14: bit over the hill.
- 33:00Speaker 5: His method of recollection was where he had left their bodies.
- 33:06Speaker 11: Between this one and that one up there, you think
- 33:09Speaker 11: you put like five?
- 33:10Speaker 2: Five of them in there.
- 33:12Speaker 11: Okay.
- 33:13Speaker 9: He essentially said the victims didn't mean anything. I have
- 33:16Speaker 9: no idea who they are. I don't know if they're black,
- 33:17Speaker 9: if they're white, how old they are, how young they are.
- 33:20Speaker 9: I mean, they really meant nothing to me as an individual.
- 33:25Speaker 14: What you're getting is what you're going to get, and
- 33:26Speaker 14: that's all you can get because I don't remember.
- 33:29Speaker 13: To every serial killer, human beings are objects. In the
- 33:34Speaker 13: homicides that they commit, they're never going to remember the name.
- 33:38Speaker 13: They're never going to remember the face. They'll remember the
- 33:41Speaker 13: concrete action of where.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Those bodies are. One of the dump sites that Ridgeway
- 33:49Speaker 2: identified was that of Marie Malvar, the 18-year-old, whose boyfriend
- 33:54Speaker 2: had spotted Ridgway abducting her. He admitted that when he
- 33:59Speaker 2: strangled her, she had fought back harder than any of
- 34:02Speaker 2: his victims.
- 34:04Speaker 6: I put battery acid in myself right here and there
- 34:07Speaker 6: to cover up scratches. There's a scratch here, scratches here
- 34:11Speaker 6: from a mill bar.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Ridgway claimed he was filled with rage and had wanted
- 34:18Speaker 2: to hurt his victims even after their deaths. he admitted
- 34:23Speaker 2: he'd tried to set the lifeless 16-year-old Linda Rule's hair
- 34:26Speaker 2: on fire.
- 34:28Speaker 9: You know, he seemed throughout the interviews to try to
- 34:33Speaker 9: blame a lot of what had happened on the women
- 34:34Speaker 9: in his life, that the women that he actually killed
- 34:38Speaker 9: were kind of an extension of all the women before
- 34:41Speaker 9: who had disappointed him in some way.
- 34:45Speaker 2: All the pressure just built and built and built and built.
- 34:48Speaker 2: My releasing was killing women.
- 34:57Speaker 9: He did talk about a number of the victims that
- 35:00Speaker 9: he would go back and have sexual relations with them
- 35:04Speaker 9: for a number of days after he killed them.
- 35:08Speaker 13: Gary, did you.
- 35:09Speaker 6: Revisit any of these?
- 35:11Speaker 2: I revisited at least one of them.
- 35:13Speaker 6: And when we say revisit, what did you come back
- 35:15Speaker 6: to do?
- 35:16Speaker 2: Have sex with her.
- 35:17Speaker 9: He's like, oh, yeah, you know, but then the flies
- 35:19Speaker 9: would come and the maggots, and then I'd be like, oh,
- 35:22Speaker 9: I don't, you know. Like he didn't want to do
- 35:24Speaker 9: it after that. You know, you were just, I mean,
- 35:25Speaker 9: that's the thing. He said it in this, like I'm
- 35:28Speaker 9: talking to you, but as if it's totally normal.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Now, why do individuals do this? The standard explanation for
- 35:42Speaker 3: necrophilia had been sex with someone dead. You can have
- 35:47Speaker 3: total control over it. There's no resistance at all. And
- 35:50Speaker 3: so you can live out those sorts of feelings with
- 35:55Speaker 3: a dead, lifeless body.
- 35:58Speaker 5: He's not the one that you're going to turn to
- 35:59Speaker 5: and ask, why did you do this? And get the
- 36:01Speaker 5: deep psychological answer. But one of the things that frequently
- 36:05Speaker 5: came up was that he wouldn't have to pay for
- 36:07Speaker 5: the sex.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Ridgeway's murderous spree had continued unabated until he met his
- 36:18Speaker 2: third wife, Judith, in the mid-80s.
- 36:23Speaker 7: Gary was so straight, normal, and loving and gentle. He
- 36:32Speaker 7: was so kind around me all the time. He didn't
- 36:37Speaker 7: get mad or upset about anything. Seemed like the perfect marriage.
- 36:45Speaker 5: When he first met her, he stopped patronizing prostitutes and
- 36:48Speaker 5: stopped killing. And then, as he put it, he fell
- 36:52Speaker 5: off the wagon.
- 36:55Speaker 7: Gary would call home and say that, you know, he's
- 37:03Speaker 7: going to be late coming home, so he's going to
- 37:06Speaker 7: grab a bite to eat, grab a hamburger, and he'll
- 37:09Speaker 7: be late. When I think back now, that was probably
- 37:13Speaker 7: one time when he was out picking up someone off
- 37:17Speaker 7: of the.
- 37:20Speaker 7: Off of the Highway 99 strip.
- 37:22Speaker 5: And then he killed again.
- 37:26Speaker 6: Right in here is where I killed her.
- 37:28Speaker 11: Right in here.
- 37:30Speaker 13: How far.
- 37:32Speaker 9: In?
- 37:32Speaker 16: 20 feet.
- 37:34Speaker 7: He would tell me he'd call home and say he's
- 37:36Speaker 7: going to stop at the junkyard on my home from work.
- 37:40Speaker 7: And then when he got home, he didn't really have
- 37:42Speaker 7: any parts from that. So that may have been another occasion.
- 37:47Speaker 5: And so after having killed maybe 60 girls from 82
- 37:55Speaker 5: to 85. From 85 to when he was caught in 2001,
- 38:01Speaker 5: the number of victims was more like 10 or 11.
- 38:09Speaker 12: Mr.
- 38:09Speaker 14: Ridgeway, how do you plead to the charge of aggravated
- 38:12Speaker 14: murder in the first degree as charged in count one?
- 38:15Speaker 11: Guilty.
- 38:19Speaker 2: In 2003, Gary Ridgway made his plea to the 48
- 38:24Speaker 2: charges of murder that investigators could conclusively tie him to.
- 38:28Speaker 14: How do you plead to the charge of aggravated murder
- 38:31Speaker 14: in the first degree as charged in count five?
- 38:33Speaker 11: Guilty.
- 38:35Speaker 7: When he confessed, and I sat when I sat and
- 38:39Speaker 7: listened to him say guilty.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Mr.
- 38:42Speaker 14: Ridgway, how do you plead to the charge of aggravated
- 38:44Speaker 14: murder in the first degree for the death of Marcia Chapman?
- 38:48Speaker 6: Guilty.
- 38:50Speaker 7: After every one of the names that they had said.
- 38:52Speaker 11: For the death of Mary B. Meehan.
- 38:55Speaker 9: Guilty.
- 38:56Speaker 7: I just sat there and cried, and that's when it
- 39:01Speaker 7: finally sunk in that.
- 39:04Speaker 17: This is real.
- 39:06Speaker 7: He did it. There's someone else inside of him. When
- 39:11Speaker 7: he went through the door and left to go to work,
- 39:15Speaker 7: he wasn't the man that I knew.
- 39:17Speaker 11: Count 19 for the death of Linda Rule.
- 39:20Speaker 9: Guilty.
- 39:22Speaker 7: I would think back and think about all those years
- 39:24Speaker 7: that I was with him. Were they real? Or was
- 39:29Speaker 7: he just using me?
- 39:30Speaker 6: Me?
- 39:30Speaker 14: How do you plead to the charge of aggravated murder
- 39:32Speaker 14: in the first degree as charged in count 48?
- 39:36Speaker 2: Guilty.
- 39:38Speaker 11: I lived.
- 39:41Speaker 7: With him all those years. He could have killed me.
- 39:46Speaker 7: He could have killed my daughters. He could have killed
- 39:48Speaker 7: my grandbabies.
- 39:53Speaker 2: So what made the monster? Was it his unusual upbringing?
- 39:58Speaker 2: Or was Gary Ridgway born to kill?
- 40:03Speaker 10: I still don't believe that any child is born to kill.
- 40:07Speaker 10: But I think some children have a predisposition to violence.
- 40:12Speaker 10: If the child grows up in a safe place for them,
- 40:17Speaker 10: where they feel loved, where they attach, we're never going
- 40:20Speaker 10: to know that that predisposition for violence is there. But
- 40:24Speaker 10: if that child is born into a home where they're afraid,
- 40:28Speaker 10: where they're neglected, where they're abused, then you have the
- 40:31Speaker 10: perfect soil to grow a serial killer.
- 40:36Speaker 16: I think that a boy and his mother have a
- 40:39Speaker 16: certain relationship, and when that relationship is different, then I
- 40:45Speaker 16: think that's when we start seeing those kind of switches
- 40:49Speaker 16: turning on and off.
- 40:52Speaker 3: This is one of my ominous signs. She was somewhat
- 40:56Speaker 3: seductive and so on. These sorts of unhealthy relationships with
- 41:01Speaker 3: a maternal figure.
- 41:03Speaker 9: People that I've encountered that have prosecuted for murder, I
- 41:06Speaker 9: think that their circumstances have driven them to do what
- 41:10Speaker 9: they have done in the majority of cases that I
- 41:14Speaker 9: have handled, I would say. I did not see that
- 41:18Speaker 9: in Ridgeway. I truly believed that he was worn that way,
- 41:23Speaker 9: hardwired that way, whatever you want to say.
- 41:26Speaker 13: The Green River Killer was definitely born to kill. He
- 41:30Speaker 13: was an individual who.
- 41:31Speaker 17: Has this changed gene and culminated in a tremendous number
- 41:41Speaker 17: and intensity of homicides.
- 41:43Speaker 5: His brain is definitely wired differently. He's a psychopath. That
- 41:48Speaker 5: has to be a brain miswiring from the beginning.
- 41:54Speaker 6: I don't know about the nurture nature piece. I think
- 41:58Speaker 6: at some point it's a decision. And I think we
- 42:01Speaker 6: all have some propensities for violence, but you can decide.
- 42:04Speaker 6: You can control it. And he decided how he wanted.
- 42:09Speaker 11: To control it.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Nineteen years after Marsha Chapman's body was discovered beneath the
- 42:17Speaker 2: surface of the Green River, Gary Ridgway was sentenced to
- 42:20Speaker 2: serve 48 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole.
- 42:29Speaker 10: In the end, Marsha got her justice because it was
- 42:32Speaker 10: DNA found on her that they could match with Gary Ridgway.
- 42:40Speaker 10: And Marsha got her day.
- 42:42Speaker 6: That was a good day.
- 42:44Speaker 11: It was a good day.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Before Ridgeway was led away, Judge Richard Jones instructed him
- 42:50Speaker 2: to face the victim's families.
- 42:52Speaker 14: There's a tremendous amount of emotion that these family members
- 42:55Speaker 14: wanted to pour out for Gary Ridgeway to hear.
- 42:59Speaker 1: I can only hope someone gets the opportunity to choke
- 43:02Speaker 1: you unconscious so you can live through the horror that
- 43:06Speaker 1: you put our daughters, our sisters, our mothers through.
- 43:10Speaker 11: The pain would not go away. but it brought them closure.
- 43:13Speaker 4: The one thing that I want you, Jerry Ridgeway, to know,
- 43:20Speaker 4: I was that daughter at home, waiting for my mom
- 43:24Speaker 4: to come home.
- 43:27Speaker 9: I think for all of us, as we brought the
- 43:30Speaker 9: families up and introduced them, it was really emotional.
- 43:36Speaker 11: I recall Linda Rule's father. There are people here that
- 43:41Speaker 11: hate you I'm not one of them. A very sympathetic,
- 43:49Speaker 11: very compassionate individual. What God says to do, and that's
- 43:53Speaker 11: to forgive all. So you are forgiven, sir.
- 44:01Speaker 5: On one hand, I'm sitting next to a person who's
- 44:03Speaker 5: done the most inhumane things to other human beings, and
- 44:08Speaker 5: then 15 feet away is a person doing the most
- 44:12Speaker 5: humane and merciful thing.
- 44:14Speaker 14: I wanted him to look out see the pain, see
- 44:18Speaker 14: the anger, and see all the agony that he had
- 44:21Speaker 14: caused in his lifetime. I wanted him to take that
- 44:23Speaker 14: visual image with him back to prison. So for the
- 44:27Speaker 14: balance of his life, that would be the last public
- 44:30Speaker 14: image that he had.
- 44:31Speaker 6: You took from me my firstborn child. May her soul
- 44:35Speaker 6: and the soul of the other 47 victims rest in peace.
- 44:46Speaker 8: I think that's a good thing. I think that's a
- 44:54Speaker 8: good thing.