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The 5G Weapon Theory · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy the Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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Speaker 1: Brown and Connor mix Pattern.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host, Adam
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Speaker 2: Todd Brown. Don't worry, I'm not going to talk like
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Speaker 2: that the entire episode. I just threatened to do this
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Speaker 2: as like an NPR style episode at one point, with
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Speaker 2: a lot of dreamy music in the background and transitions,
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Speaker 2: and I would say a thing and then edit in
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Speaker 2: Connor saying something and then get back to me talking.
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Speaker 2: But like you know, clearly we're all in different rooms.
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Speaker 2: But no production like that would take way too much
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Speaker 2: time to pull off. Instead, Welcome to a very special
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Speaker 2: episode of Conspiracy the Show. Just not special in the
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Speaker 2: way I implied it was going to be when I
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Speaker 2: started talking, joining me as co host Connor mcspadden. Eventually,
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Speaker 2: I say, this is a very special episode because this
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Speaker 2: is our first interview episode. We've had guests on the
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Speaker 2: show obviously, but this is the first time we've sat
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Speaker 2: someone down for a skype call, meaning we sat down,
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Speaker 2: they sat down wherever they were technology joining us today.
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Speaker 2: Russian spy Lee Camp just joking. He's not a spy.
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Speaker 2: He is a comedian who hosts a show on RT
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Speaker 2: America that is the americanwing of RT dot com, which
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Speaker 2: is a website that you might have heard of recently
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Speaker 2: if you've looked into the comings and goings with the
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen election in this country. So that's Neat, our
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Speaker 2: very first guest, and he's a great guest, and it's
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Speaker 2: a really fun interview. I would know we already did it.
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Speaker 2: What we didn't do was record in introduction to this episode.
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Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm doing right now, all by myself,
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Speaker 2: just me and you, baby, me and who you you
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Speaker 2: listening to this? Are you enjoying this so far? Tell
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Speaker 2: me if you are. I can't hear you, but I
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Speaker 2: can feel it, I promise. So we are off to
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Speaker 2: a weird start. What are we talking about today? We're
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Speaker 2: talking about five G Internet. That seems like a weird topic,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure. And this is a thing that wasn't on
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Speaker 2: my radar in terms of possible podcast topics whatsoever. And
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Speaker 2: I actually stumbled upon the idea because of a tweet
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Speaker 2: from Lee Camp, who will be talking to shortly here.
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Speaker 2: And here's what that tweet said. It is from December
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Speaker 2: twenty ninth, twenty eighteen. Five G wireless is an experiment
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Speaker 2: on the health of all species. It is a weapons
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Speaker 2: grade frequency. There is no knowing the future implications for us.
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Speaker 2: We are guinea pigs. And I thought that was interesting
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Speaker 2: because again I had I mean, I was just looking
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Speaker 2: forward to five G Internet because I live in a
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Speaker 2: part of California where I don't know what G we're
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Speaker 2: working with, but it's it's it's not the fast one.
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Speaker 2: I have very bad internet here, is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So I was just looking forward to the prospect of
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Speaker 2: faster Internet. And then I see this tweet, and now
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Speaker 2: I'm all up in arms about it. And we had
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Speaker 2: been trying to get Lee camp on. We were gonna
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Speaker 2: have him on Good Luck America, and then the holidays
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Speaker 2: happened and we took that break, and we'd been talking
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Speaker 2: back and forth trying to get them on an episode,
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Speaker 2: and then I see this tweet. We needed to record
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Speaker 2: an episode of Conspiracy the show, and now here we
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Speaker 2: are talking about five G Internet. Before we get to
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Speaker 2: the interview with Lee and Connor, I just want to
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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what five G is because
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Speaker 2: that was a thing I also didn't really know. I
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Speaker 2: just know faster Internet. That's every G seems to be
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Speaker 2: faster than the G that preceded it. And in some
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Speaker 2: spots Internet's pretty fast right now, but like I said,
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Speaker 2: where I am, it's not. I had to do weeks
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Speaker 2: of research and pay hundreds of extra dollars just so
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Speaker 2: I could live stream poorly lit podcast recording videos to
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Speaker 2: Patreon subscribers. So as fast as Internet has gotten, it's
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Speaker 2: still not great. And the frequencies that we use for
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Speaker 2: the Internet that we all have right now, which is
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Speaker 2: four G, it uses a really specific frequency which is
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Speaker 2: usually between three killer hurts and six gigaherts, and those
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Speaker 2: frequencies are starting to get overcrowded because we all have
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Speaker 2: every fucking thing connects to the Internet now, and that's
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Speaker 2: the bandwidth or the frequencies needed to sustain that are
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Speaker 2: getting overloaded. So we got to open up some new frequencies,
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Speaker 2: baby and five G Internet. The five G just stands
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Speaker 2: for fifth generation. Basically one G with cell phones, two
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Speaker 2: G is what allowed us to text, three G is
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Speaker 2: what let us get on the Internet with our phones,
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Speaker 2: and then four G made those speeds comparable to home
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Speaker 2: internet speeds. I actually live stream with a four G
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Speaker 2: internet connection as opposed to that's how shitty the internet
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Speaker 2: services where I live. I cannot stress this enough. I
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Speaker 2: had to buy a four G fireless hotspot to live
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Speaker 2: stream with in my own home like communist goddamn Russia.
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that. Lee Camp coming up soon. So
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Speaker 2: four G the network is exceeding its user capability, or
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Speaker 2: it's close to it, and it's slowing things down. So
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Speaker 2: here comes five G to fix that consists of five
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Speaker 2: different technologies, fittingly enough, millimeter waves. Those are the frequencies
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Speaker 2: I just mentioned the frequency spectrum that four G works on.
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Speaker 2: When we open that frequency spectrum up, millimeter waves are
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Speaker 2: what we'll use to send information back and forth. And
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Speaker 2: the frequency spectrum will be opening up is thirty to
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Speaker 2: three hundred gigahertz, which just sounds like technical jargon because
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Speaker 2: it is. But it's a frequency we've never used for
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Speaker 2: this purpose. We have used it before, and that's where
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Speaker 2: the mention of five G being a weaponized frequency there's
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Speaker 2: I'm getting ahead a little bit, but the military developed
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Speaker 2: this weapon called the active Denial system and it operates
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Speaker 2: within that frequency. And getting back to just how five
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Speaker 2: G works, the problem with millimeter waves is that they
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Speaker 2: can't pass through buildings and they tend to get absorbed
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Speaker 2: by rain and trees and shit like that. So to
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Speaker 2: get around that, the second technology five G uses is
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Speaker 2: called small cells. And right now networks use gigantic cell
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Speaker 2: towers that broadcast to everyone who has a phone. They're huge.
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Speaker 2: You've everyone has seen a cell tower before, even if
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Speaker 2: you don't realize it, and you can't send millimeter waves
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Speaker 2: that way because of their tendency to get blocked by
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Speaker 2: buildings and trees and whatnot. So instead, what five G
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Speaker 2: will involve is a bunch of really small towers, not
8:02
Speaker 2: in some cases not really small, but in some cases
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Speaker 2: pretty small, but definitely smaller than the cell towers that
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Speaker 2: we're familiar with. Now. In some places they've gone up
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Speaker 2: there just described as poles, and these will be placed
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Speaker 2: all over the fucking place. If you lose connection with
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Speaker 2: one because you're turning the corner in your car, there
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Speaker 2: will be another one somewhere right around the corner to
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Speaker 2: connect you to and you probably won't even notice that
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Speaker 2: you switched, just like when you're making a phone call
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Speaker 2: and it switches from one cell tower to another while
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Speaker 2: you're driving. Just joking, who the fuck's making phone calls anymore?
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Speaker 2: That's gross. But you think of it like a mesh network.
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Speaker 2: Right now, if you have Internet and you live in
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Speaker 2: a big ish place, or just in a place where
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Speaker 2: there's rooms that having one modem or router downstairs, you're
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Speaker 2: gonna get shitty internet upstairs. You can buy a mesh system,
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Speaker 2: which is just a router and then a series of
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Speaker 2: satellite routers. That's how the cell towers will work with
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Speaker 2: five G. The third technology is called massive MIMO. MEMO
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Speaker 2: means multiple input, multiple output. Right now, cell towers have
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Speaker 2: about twelve ports that allow for the flow of traffic.
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Speaker 2: MEMO technology increases that to more like one hundred ports
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Speaker 2: per tower. But those towers broadcast signals in all directions
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Speaker 2: at once, and that many signals crossing can cause interference.
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Speaker 2: So fourth technology beamforming, which just even if it's I know,
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Speaker 2: we're just talking about five G and it's every day
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Speaker 2: giving you faster Internet practical applications, beamforming still sounds scary.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because this is a conspiracy podcast. So
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Speaker 2: obviously I'm high, Like I had you, I can't. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to record a solo portion of a conspiracy
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Speaker 2: podcast and not smoke a little bit of weed first.
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Speaker 2: So maybe I'm just paranoid and beamforming just sounds more
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Speaker 2: uncomfortable than it would where I not high, which is
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Speaker 2: never so beam forming is always gonna sound creepy to me.
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Speaker 2: And what beamforming does is instead of broadcasting all of
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Speaker 2: those signals in all sorts of directions, beamforming allows a
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Speaker 2: tower to broadcast directly to a user's device. And in
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Speaker 2: this case we're talking phones. Remember, if you are a
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Speaker 2: Patreon subscriber, you heard last week's Patreon only episode about
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Speaker 2: smart dust, that beamforming could be going right to your
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Speaker 2: brain someday, if Elon Musk has his way. I'm not
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Speaker 2: allowed to talk about Elon Musk unless I talk angrily.
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Speaker 2: Where people get, people get suspicious. So beamforming, that's the
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Speaker 2: fourth technology. That's what will allow five G to give
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Speaker 2: you a more intimate fucking Wi Fi wave experience. They'll
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Speaker 2: be coming right at you, baby, just you. And the
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Speaker 2: last technology that five G uses, it's called full duplex.
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Speaker 2: Right now, current cell towers work sort of like two
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Speaker 2: trains on the same track heading toward each other, and
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Speaker 2: for one to get past one is gonna have to
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Speaker 2: get off that fucking track and wait and or like
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Speaker 2: with walkie talkies. With walkie talkies, you have to talk
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Speaker 2: and then stop so the other person can talk. That's
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Speaker 2: sort of how cell towers that we're using right now
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Speaker 2: send and receive information. It has to go one way
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Speaker 2: and stuff can't go the other way while one thing's
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Speaker 2: going one way. You get it. I'm really dwelling on this.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I had you probably at two trains
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Speaker 2: on the same track heading toward each other. That wasn't
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Speaker 2: a story problem. I'm not gonna ask you math after that.
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Speaker 2: This is gonna be honest. It feels like overkill at
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Speaker 2: this point. So full duplex technology just allow for signals
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Speaker 2: to go one direction and the other direction at the
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Speaker 2: same time. If they're going to cross, they just fucking
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Speaker 2: go around each other. That's all. That's all it is.
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Speaker 2: That's all it is, and that will speed up the
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Speaker 2: process of sending information from one place to another. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: he didn't need me to tell you that. So that
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Speaker 2: is a very rough overview of how five G Internet works.
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Speaker 2: And before we get to the interview with Lee, we'll
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Speaker 2: go into a little more detail about the conspiracy theories
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Speaker 2: or just the theories surrounding five G Internet and its potential
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Speaker 2: for surveillance, crowd control, mind control, all those fun things
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Speaker 2: that we love so much on Conspiracy the show. But
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Speaker 2: I want to give just some some bullet points of
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Speaker 2: some of the dangers that people believe five G might present.
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Speaker 2: A lot of it revolves around the Internet of Things,
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Speaker 2: which is that gets thrown around a lot. Think of
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Speaker 2: that like your smart TVs, your your smartphones, your smart watches,
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Speaker 2: your goddamn Alexa's, your smart plugs, you get it again,
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Speaker 2: I'm going on. But all of that shit connects to
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Speaker 2: the Internet, and that's one of the reasons we need
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Speaker 2: to open up these frequencies to allow for more devices
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Speaker 2: to connect to the Internet, because the direction we're heading
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Speaker 2: is fucking everything connects to the end. You can buy
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Speaker 2: notebooks that connect to the Internet their actual paper, you
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Speaker 2: write on them, and I don't think you can write
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Speaker 2: on it again after you've written on it. But that
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Speaker 2: shit uploads to the Internet, and it's magic. Everything's on
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Speaker 2: the Internet these days. So the Internet of Things will
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Speaker 2: require that pretty much everything in your life and maybe
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Speaker 2: even eventually you is connected to the Internet. And the
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Speaker 2: frequency five G works on uses millimeter waves as mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 2: which have been used by the military in the past
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Speaker 2: to build the Active Denial System, which I also mentioned earlier.
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Speaker 2: That's a non lethal directed energy weapon developed by the
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Speaker 2: US military designed for area denial, perimeter security, and crowd control. Informally,
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Speaker 2: the weapon is also called the heat ray since it
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Speaker 2: works by heating the surface of targets, such as the
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Speaker 2: skin of targeted human subjects. Is Active Denial System a
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Speaker 2: better or worse name than heat ray? Because it's the
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Speaker 2: fucking government. They could have called it the heat ray
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Speaker 2: if they wanted to, But active Denial system sounds pretty
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Speaker 2: great too. And it's also like it's covert enough that
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Speaker 2: you could see it written on the side of a
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Speaker 2: box and you wouldn't even think about what's in there.
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Speaker 2: It's a weapon that will cook you from the inside
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Speaker 2: out like a goddamn microwave. That's what's in there. But
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Speaker 2: it just says active denial system. It's probably some compewter
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Speaker 2: hacker shit, that's what it sounds like. But it works
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Speaker 2: on the ninety five gigahertz frequency, and that is within
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Speaker 2: the range of what five G Internet will work on.
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Speaker 2: So think about all the stuff I just mentioned about
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Speaker 2: how five G Internet works and the fact that the
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Speaker 2: active denial system works on the same frequency as five G.
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Speaker 2: You have all of these small cell towers placed all
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Speaker 2: around the fucking city or town you live in. And
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Speaker 2: to explain the fear in a really broad stroke, it's
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Speaker 2: that someone could flip a switch and turn those small
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Speaker 2: cell towers that are located everywhere into an active denial system. Say,
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Speaker 2: if you are protesting and the government wants to break
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Speaker 2: up that protest, those five G towers that are placed
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Speaker 2: all over that you, in most cases probably won't even see.
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Speaker 2: In theory could be turned into a weapon that's used
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Speaker 2: against you. And I know that's outlandish, but it's what
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Speaker 2: we do on this show. Did you think I was
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Speaker 2: gonna say, I know that's outlandish and then explain why
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Speaker 2: it's not. No, it's it's a wild fucking theory, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, our military does a lot of
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Speaker 2: crazy shit. I will say that one thing will put
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Speaker 2: the there's a couple of videos that explain not only
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Speaker 2: five G Internet but also the conspiracy theories around five
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Speaker 2: G Internet. Will post them both on the website on
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Speaker 2: pops dot com if you're keeping score at home. But
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Speaker 2: one thing I did notice in the video explaining the
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Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, it's a lot of speculation. And then the
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Speaker 2: narrator points to an article with a headline that says
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Speaker 2: US seeks five spectrum lethal cyber weapons. And the way
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Speaker 2: the guy presents that headline and then just sort of
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Speaker 2: scrolls past so you can see it's a real article,
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Speaker 2: is that the US is seeking lethal cyber weapons that
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Speaker 2: will work on the five G spectrum. As if the
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Speaker 2: five G spectrum part of that headline and the lethal
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Speaker 2: cyber weapons part of that headline are one and the same. No, no, no.
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Speaker 2: If you go out to the actual article he's referring to,
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Speaker 2: which I believe was a New York Times article, but
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Speaker 2: that's you can search the headline us seeks five G
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Speaker 2: spectrum semi colon lethal cyber weapons. That semi colon is
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Speaker 2: there because those are two different articles. It's one article
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Speaker 2: about how the US wants to build a five G
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Speaker 2: network and another article about how they're looking into lethal
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Speaker 2: cyber weapons. The two things are not connected, So just
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Speaker 2: something to take into account. But yeah, basically the argument
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Speaker 2: here is that at least one of the arguments is
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Speaker 2: that five G Internet could potentially be just a gigantic
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Speaker 2: active denial system or if you listen to last episode
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Speaker 2: where again Elon Musk we talked about his idea that
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Speaker 2: at some point humans are going to have to merge
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Speaker 2: with AI in order for AI to not destroy us all,
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Speaker 2: and that the means to do that already exists. We
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Speaker 2: just have a bandwidth issue. We can't We don't have
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Speaker 2: enough bandwidth to facilitate cell phone towers sending information directly
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Speaker 2: to your brain instead of sending it to your phone.
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Speaker 2: We have the things they would need to put in
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Speaker 2: your brain, that's called smart dust, and we have internet.
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Speaker 2: The Internet just isn't fast enough to interact with the
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Speaker 2: things they need to put in your brain, and five
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Speaker 2: G fixes that. So then maybe five G could also
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Speaker 2: be used for mind control or surveillance or any number
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Speaker 2: of other things. That's the theory here, and there's also
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Speaker 2: just I think the same thing with cell towers. There's
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Speaker 2: people who say this about fucking wind turbines, But there
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Speaker 2: are also concerns about actual physical health just from being
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Speaker 2: exposed to the different waves that five G uses. Some
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Speaker 2: of the negative health effects that people claim five G
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Speaker 2: radiation will cause is effects to skin, eyes, heart, immune system,
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Speaker 2: cell growth rates and bacterial resistance, negative impacts for plant
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Speaker 2: and food growth, and ozone depletion. Not that again, I
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Speaker 2: thought Rush Limbaugh fixed that in the eighties. Anyway, I've
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Speaker 2: gone on way too long about how five G Internet
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Speaker 2: works and the potential hazards of it, especially considering I'm
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Speaker 2: doing this all by myself. Let's get some guests in
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Speaker 2: the room. Ladies and gentlemen, conspira. See the show's very
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Speaker 2: first interview. Here's Lee Camp and Countermixpat.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 2: We are joined today on the phone by comedian Lee Camp. Lee,
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Speaker 2: how's it going.
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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me. How's it going.
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Speaker 2: It's going great. We really appreciate you doing this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem.
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Speaker 4: I want to I want to enjoy the new Dystopian
20:25
Speaker 4: year with you guys.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like I was gonna say that's where
20:29
Speaker 2: we're headed, but I think we're pretty much there.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've been there since like the seventies, and.
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Speaker 4: I was trying to remember, have we I think we've
20:35
Speaker 4: surpassed all of the future Dystopian years from the eighties
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Speaker 4: and nineties.
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Speaker 3: Films, right, Yeah, we've like I think they were all
20:43
Speaker 3: like twenty twelve.
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Speaker 4: Maybe there was a twenty twenty in there, but you know,
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Speaker 4: like Terminator and like Demolition Man, I think we're past
20:48
Speaker 4: them all.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, after Back to the Future, probably the scariest
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Speaker 1: dystopia this year, I think we've hit all of them.
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Speaker 2: Blade Runner is twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh yeah, we made it a Blade Runner robot sex.
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Speaker 2: What's up? Uh?
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Speaker 3: Lee?
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Speaker 2: You host a show on RT dot com called Redacted tonight.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you're kind of close.
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Speaker 4: It's uh, I don't have anything really to do with
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Speaker 4: RT dot com. It's Artie Artie America and it's a
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Speaker 4: it's a television channel that is connected to the international
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Speaker 4: RT channel.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah. Al Jazeera used to have a thing
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Speaker 2: like that too, a j plus. Yeah, it was kind
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Speaker 2: of similar to that. I think, Uh, what's it like
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Speaker 2: working for RT? Like, I know, it's a it's kind
21:34
Speaker 2: of a separate wing. But do do you get any
21:36
Speaker 2: weird responses when when people know that's who you're working with?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's obviously in our in our age
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Speaker 4: of Neil McCarthyism, there is a lot of hatred thrown,
21:46
Speaker 4: uh our way or RT's way or whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think people don't realize just how
21:52
Speaker 4: hard I have to work to do this show. I
21:55
Speaker 4: mean I have to. I'm obligated to for to give
21:59
Speaker 4: hand jobs every KGB agent that.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it's like and those guys they're not moisturizing,
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Speaker 1: they've got calloused like imperialist government dix. I mean that's
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Speaker 1: your hands must be like a dust bowl farmer's.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, just loads of We're sponsored by Jurgens. Oh good,
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Speaker 4: but no, in all honesty, like, the reason I'm at
22:20
Speaker 4: Urtie America is because I've never been told what to
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Speaker 4: say here. I've never been told I can't say anything here.
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Speaker 4: I've been doing the same brand of comedy and stand
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Speaker 4: up comedy for I mean, I've been doing stand up
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Speaker 4: for twenty years, but I say it's been it's political
22:36
Speaker 4: for about fifteen. And you know, and none of the
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Speaker 4: other channels would allow this type of thing. Now you
22:43
Speaker 4: can do it on YouTube and stuff. And I did
22:44
Speaker 4: have a pretty popular YouTube show before I started doing
22:48
Speaker 4: the TV show Redacted Tonight. But in terms of TV
22:51
Speaker 4: channels in America, you're very limited about this stuff. To
22:54
Speaker 4: be able to go after the corporate monstrosities that are
22:57
Speaker 4: destroying our lives on a daily basis. You base can't
23:00
Speaker 4: do that at any of the large corporate channels and
23:03
Speaker 4: the entities that really rule our lives. I mean, we
23:07
Speaker 4: basically live in what political philosopher Shell and Woland called
23:11
Speaker 4: inverted totalitarianism, which is ruled by the corporate state, the
23:15
Speaker 4: kind of anonymous corporate state. It's not ruled by one demagogue.
23:19
Speaker 4: And that's what we're under. And so the fact that
23:22
Speaker 4: I can have this freedom, I mean, it's the same
23:24
Speaker 4: reason Chris Hedges is here, Jesse Ventura, you know many others,
23:29
Speaker 4: Abby Martin for a long time, Ed Schaltz until he
23:32
Speaker 4: passed away.
23:32
Speaker 3: But these are people you know.
23:34
Speaker 4: Last night, Rick Sanchez, who was at he was at
23:36
Speaker 4: all the mainstream media, has been at CNN, MSNBC and
23:39
Speaker 4: Fox News, and now he's here. And he did a
23:41
Speaker 4: segment last night on RT.
23:43
Speaker 1: Oh I saw this, the one where he turned himself
23:45
Speaker 1: into a pickle. Right, that was great.
23:47
Speaker 2: Rick's that's a Rick and Morty reference. And I apologize
23:53
Speaker 2: Connor is very young.
23:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, he's got the same name as a guy
23:57
Speaker 1: from the show.
23:58
Speaker 4: And I thought, okay, oh man, I'm yeah, I'm I
24:00
Speaker 4: guess I'm an old man now.
24:01
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even see Rick and Morty.
24:03
Speaker 4: But but but anyway, he did a segment last night
24:07
Speaker 4: on all the CIA backed coups and everything that have
24:10
Speaker 4: gone on in South and Central America, just going through
24:12
Speaker 4: the years, and he said, like, that's the type of
24:15
Speaker 4: segment he couldn't do it, CNN, that's the type of
24:17
Speaker 4: thing he wrote. CNN asked him to write a book,
24:19
Speaker 4: but forbid him from having that.
24:21
Speaker 3: Stuff in there. And this is known history.
24:23
Speaker 4: This is no secret, but of course it's a secret
24:25
Speaker 4: on ourpret airwaves.
24:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:27
Speaker 1: I mean it's like if you want to do sort
24:29
Speaker 1: of you know, the content that is questioning the sort
24:32
Speaker 1: of the the cabal of corporate you know, influencers like
24:38
Speaker 1: Ge doesn't want to give you pre roll money for
24:40
Speaker 1: that on YouTube, Like you're just not going to get
24:43
Speaker 1: the advertising, right.
24:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. Like I've run into things. We did
24:48
Speaker 2: an episode about McDonald's. There was this nationwide me too
24:54
Speaker 2: protest at McDonald's where workers walked out over the lunch
24:57
Speaker 2: rush and no one covered it because mc donald spreads
25:00
Speaker 2: so much.
25:01
Speaker 3: Ronald McDonald is very handsy.
25:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they spread so much advertising money around
25:07
Speaker 2: that none oft like you would see a blurb about
25:09
Speaker 2: it on the major news outlets, but no one really
25:13
Speaker 2: talked about it.
25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a like a grassroots, large scale
25:16
Speaker 1: like protest dealing with the Me too movement. You think
25:19
Speaker 1: that's number one story. Yeah, it's my major name brand chan.
25:22
Speaker 1: It's a big sexy news story, but it just got buried.
25:24
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about it till Adam Semia google doc you.
25:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, none of that stuff. I mean the number
25:29
Speaker 3: of strikes going on around.
25:30
Speaker 4: America that you know, a lot of them are relatively small,
25:33
Speaker 4: but some of them get bigger, but they're almost not
25:35
Speaker 4: covered at all.
25:36
Speaker 3: I mean large scale.
25:37
Speaker 4: There's I can't remember which hotel chain it is that
25:41
Speaker 4: that has had a massive strike, multi state going on
25:45
Speaker 4: in very thousands of workers, and it's basically not covered
25:48
Speaker 4: at all because these are all large corporate entities that
25:51
Speaker 4: you know, the media knows that they're the ones buttering
25:54
Speaker 4: the bread, and so none of this has talked about.
25:57
Speaker 4: It's it's honestly like going on those other channels, having
26:01
Speaker 4: a show on of those other channels is basically saying
26:02
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn my mind off to seventy percent of
26:05
Speaker 4: everything that influences our daily lives.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that kind of freedom
26:11
Speaker 2: is I'm sure very not, don't. I don't have a
26:14
Speaker 2: boss or an editor or anything, so I kind of
26:17
Speaker 2: get that here, but it's not I don't have the
26:19
Speaker 2: platform behind me to support it.
26:21
Speaker 3: So right, you could do it.
26:23
Speaker 4: You can do it on YouTube, and you can do
26:24
Speaker 4: it on podcasts, but if you want to talk about
26:26
Speaker 4: television market or you know a lot of some move
26:29
Speaker 4: you know certain movie large production companies, those type of things,
26:32
Speaker 4: like you can't. You basically can't do it. It's almost
26:35
Speaker 4: unheard of. I mean even even someone as successful and
26:39
Speaker 4: talented as Chris Hedges was at the New York Times
26:42
Speaker 4: Puwitz surprise winning war correspondent, and he was pushed out
26:45
Speaker 4: when he came out against the Iraq war. So it's like,
26:48
Speaker 4: you can't even you could be this huge celebrated you know,
26:52
Speaker 4: writer or voice or personality and you're still kicked out
26:55
Speaker 4: when you start questioning the war machine.
26:58
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, like, who do I think
26:59
Speaker 1: is the edgiest person like in terms of disseminating information
27:03
Speaker 1: that's on a mainstream outlet, And I couldn't even think
27:05
Speaker 1: of like an like I was trying to think what
27:07
Speaker 1: the line is, like who's pushing the line, and it's
27:10
Speaker 1: like they're all pretty much like you know, MSBC or whatever,
27:13
Speaker 1: Fox or whatever, it's all pretty much like there's there's
27:16
Speaker 1: no one who's like oh and then MK Ultra did
27:19
Speaker 1: They're always just it's all just well, I don't know
27:22
Speaker 1: if Pelosi's gonna have the votes, Like they don't get
27:24
Speaker 1: any deeper than that, you know, they just won't let
27:26
Speaker 1: them right.
27:27
Speaker 4: And if you ever hear like a little segment, like
27:30
Speaker 4: someone tried to call me to task because I was like,
27:33
Speaker 4: you'll you'll basically this was months ago when Yemen was
27:36
Speaker 4: even less of a story. But I was like, you'll
27:38
Speaker 4: basically never hear about the genocide going on in Yemen
27:40
Speaker 4: from the mainstream media. And they go, oh, yeah, Lee,
27:43
Speaker 4: what about this from CNN? And he points to like
27:47
Speaker 4: an article buried on the CNN blog about Yemen that
27:51
Speaker 4: doesn't even mention the United States, And I'm like, that's
27:54
Speaker 4: your evidence that CNN has covered this story. One blog
27:57
Speaker 4: post where they don't mention the United States is helping
28:00
Speaker 4: fund and weaponize this genocide, Like.
28:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's what I've found really interesting about
28:08
Speaker 2: the talks around US pulling out of Syria, and there's
28:12
Speaker 2: there's always that that rebuttal where people are like, well,
28:16
Speaker 2: there's genocide happening there, and it's like you can't possibly
28:19
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen still think that's why we're there. Yeah, Like,
28:23
Speaker 2: we are not policing the world to stop atrocities. Ever,
28:27
Speaker 2: under any.
28:27
Speaker 1: Circumstance, we start genocide so we can stop them and
28:30
Speaker 1: then get prizes, you.
28:32
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
28:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
28:34
Speaker 4: We fund and prop up all of these people until
28:37
Speaker 4: we you know, don't like them anymore, or sometimes we
28:41
Speaker 4: start out fighting against them, like al Qaeda, and now
28:43
Speaker 4: we're partnering with Al Nosrael, which is al qaeda offshoot.
28:47
Speaker 3: You know, we we we're.
28:49
Speaker 4: Just whoever can help us in our latest battle of
28:52
Speaker 4: creating instability over there is who will partner with.
28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like twenty percent Fire Department and eighty percent
28:59
Speaker 1: Arson Department is like our foreign policy, you know what
29:01
Speaker 1: I mean?
29:02
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, And you know, in terms of like obviously
29:07
Speaker 4: Trump's talking about pulling the troops out, and what's hilarious
29:10
Speaker 4: is like Trump is an utter catastrophe on every level,
29:14
Speaker 4: Yet when he actually the things that he actually gets
29:18
Speaker 4: like rewarded for by the media or like when he
29:22
Speaker 4: bombed Syria or something like that, that's when they celebrate him.
29:25
Speaker 4: Is like when he agrees to endless war or something.
29:29
Speaker 3: But when he.
29:29
Speaker 4: Tries to create peace with North Korea, Oh, what a
29:33
Speaker 4: catastrophe Trump is. It's like, no, those are the things
29:36
Speaker 4: he's doing that actually are correct and go against the
29:39
Speaker 4: entire deep state, the entire military industrial complex, which is
29:43
Speaker 4: why he hasn't succeeded in any of them.
29:44
Speaker 3: I mean, also, he's not doing them for the right reasons.
29:47
Speaker 4: He's doing it because he thinks his you know, followers
29:50
Speaker 4: want to see it, and he thinks it'll look good
29:51
Speaker 4: for his name or whatever. But you know, when you
29:54
Speaker 4: have the day after he announced peaced with there was
29:56
Speaker 4: gonna be peace with North Korea, the weapons contractor stocks tanked.
30:00
Speaker 3: I mean you think you can really pull that off.
30:02
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's called the military industrial complex. It's not
30:05
Speaker 1: because it's simple, like you know, it's very uh, it's
30:08
Speaker 1: it's it's it connected the octopus tendrils to every facet
30:12
Speaker 1: of our economy and our our our you know, unilateral
30:14
Speaker 1: movements as a governing organization, so you can't just he
30:18
Speaker 1: wants to do anything that people are like they said
30:20
Speaker 1: they would never do it, you know, like a like
30:22
Speaker 1: moving the capital to Jerusalem. You know, it's like, oh yeah,
30:25
Speaker 1: every single president talked about doing that, and he was like, well,
30:28
Speaker 1: I'll just take the heat because then it looks like, whoa,
30:29
Speaker 1: he's final, someone finally did it. That looks you know,
30:31
Speaker 1: they're just like, well they didn't think it good, but
30:33
Speaker 1: he did. So He's just looking for things like that
30:36
Speaker 1: to sort of add like rebulc like fucking pathos to
30:39
Speaker 1: his like sort of image, you know what I mean.
30:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Trump is a nightmare. Yeah, what a fucking nightmare.
30:45
Speaker 2: Uh So, the our episode today is about five G
30:50
Speaker 2: Internet And I was kind of inspired to do this
30:53
Speaker 2: episode because you you tweeted a thing about it the
30:56
Speaker 2: other day and it made me, uh kind of want
30:58
Speaker 2: to look into it. And this is it's it's fascinating
31:01
Speaker 2: and terrifying what might be happening with five G right now? Yeah,
31:08
Speaker 2: one of them I had.
31:09
Speaker 3: I had looked much into it until recently either.
31:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things you tweeted was that it
31:14
Speaker 2: is a weaponized frequency. Can you explain a little bit
31:18
Speaker 2: more about what that means.
31:19
Speaker 4: Well, the you know, radio waves and microwaves and everything
31:23
Speaker 4: that they have different frequencies and and some of them
31:26
Speaker 4: are not harmful to the human body, meaning you know,
31:29
Speaker 4: to break this down into layman's term, because I am
31:31
Speaker 4: a layman, so I'm not going to give you the
31:35
Speaker 4: perfectly scientific view of this. But you know, these these
31:38
Speaker 4: different frequencies, some of them go through our bodies and
31:41
Speaker 4: pass through our bodies with no impact, and other ones
31:44
Speaker 4: can microwave us, hence the microwave machine.
31:47
Speaker 3: Uh so, so they have different impacts.
31:50
Speaker 4: And uh the five five G is I've seen several
31:54
Speaker 4: articles saying it's the same frequency that's used with the
31:57
Speaker 4: new military kind of heat cannon that they've created.
32:02
Speaker 2: The active denial system, Yes.
32:04
Speaker 4: Yees, yeah, where basically they can heat up protesters skin
32:08
Speaker 4: so that it feels like they're on fire even when
32:11
Speaker 4: they're not. So all the protesters run away and this
32:14
Speaker 4: thing actually exists and they can you know, they've they've
32:17
Speaker 4: shown demonstrations and.
32:18
Speaker 3: That's basically the same frequency as five G.
32:22
Speaker 4: But even if let's say this five G doesn't impact
32:27
Speaker 4: us in that way, you don't feel like you're on fire.
32:29
Speaker 4: There's been basically no testing on what this impact could
32:33
Speaker 4: be on wildlife, on our brains, on anything like that.
32:39
Speaker 4: And I did a segment on unredacted tonight on this,
32:43
Speaker 4: but I also covered the fact that cell phones testing
32:48
Speaker 4: is shown with cell phones that if you're talking with
32:50
Speaker 4: them up against your head for a lot of.
32:52
Speaker 3: The day, there is an increase.
32:54
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, two or four times as common
32:57
Speaker 4: that you'll get brain tumors and US types of cancer.
33:01
Speaker 4: And these studies have been suppressed. And the guy who
33:04
Speaker 4: led the panel on whether cell phones are safe the
33:07
Speaker 4: federal panel in the back in the nineties, he was
33:10
Speaker 4: just attacked and maligned and just beaten down because he
33:14
Speaker 4: was going to hurt the self built, you know, the
33:15
Speaker 4: telecom industry. And you can read about this stuff and
33:19
Speaker 4: this is not coming from fringe articles like Project Censored
33:22
Speaker 4: is a is a well respected, uh you know, effort,
33:25
Speaker 4: nonprofit effort to reveal the most censored stories of each
33:29
Speaker 4: of each year. And they're talking about five G and
33:33
Speaker 4: cell phones. And the Nation did an extensive expose on
33:37
Speaker 4: how cell phone companies convinced us cell phones are safe.
33:40
Speaker 3: Now it's not saying they're going.
33:41
Speaker 4: To blow your head off, but if you're talking with
33:44
Speaker 4: them up against your head a lot of the day,
33:46
Speaker 4: they can be dangerous.
33:47
Speaker 1: Well, it's like four out of five doctors smoke chester Fields,
33:51
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's it's like wall
33:53
Speaker 1: We just we'd there's no effects to having a computer
33:56
Speaker 1: next to your dick all day, for sure, none at all.
33:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:00
Speaker 4: And it's like the job you know, recently came out
34:03
Speaker 4: that there's asbestos and Johnson Johnson baby powder and they've.
34:06
Speaker 3: Known it for years.
34:07
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
34:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the scientists all said, get the asbestos baby powder.
34:11
Speaker 3: It's the mestos baby powder. Yeah, that's what the ads said, right,
34:15
Speaker 3: you know.
34:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, be careful using Johnson and Johnson. You might
34:19
Speaker 4: come down with mezzo thely Oh my, that's good baby powder.
34:22
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh dude, the five G five greats.
34:25
Speaker 2: It's so quick. Yeah. That's a good example of a
34:29
Speaker 2: story that's tied to a major corporation that just didn't
34:33
Speaker 2: get nearly the attention it deserved. That's such a scandal.
34:36
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they just they were giving people cancer
34:39
Speaker 2: since the seven.
34:39
Speaker 1: And they just went oops, and they said, hey, you
34:41
Speaker 1: like all that commercial money we give you, how about
34:43
Speaker 1: you be cool about the baby powder gang?
34:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, And you.
34:47
Speaker 4: Know they'll slip some networks will slip in a quiet
34:49
Speaker 4: little report about.
34:51
Speaker 3: That so that they can say they did it.
34:53
Speaker 4: But it's like, it's nothing compared to twenty four seven
34:57
Speaker 4: coverage about what Trump tweeted.
34:59
Speaker 3: Imagine if ever every news channel.
35:01
Speaker 4: Was doing twenty four to seven coverage on stop using
35:04
Speaker 4: Johnson Johnson baby powder, it'd be a completely fucking different world. Yeah.
35:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, So back to the five G thing for a second.
35:13
Speaker 2: Does this do you think this is like a like,
35:17
Speaker 2: is there some sort of coordinated effort behind this, Like
35:19
Speaker 2: there's always one of the things that comes up is
35:22
Speaker 2: that this is going to be used to make us
35:24
Speaker 2: sort of a surveillance state. Or is it more just
35:27
Speaker 2: like when we tested nuclear weapons and we were like, well,
35:30
Speaker 2: it might set the atmosphere on fire, but let's try
35:32
Speaker 2: it anyway. Is it more something like that?
35:35
Speaker 4: Do you think, well, you know, I feel like those
35:38
Speaker 4: are kind of two separate questions, because it is going
35:42
Speaker 4: to allow So let's assume five G is safe and
35:45
Speaker 4: take the like physical harm thing off the table for
35:48
Speaker 4: a minute. If five G is also going to allow
35:50
Speaker 4: for the Internet of things to coordinate very quickly and
35:53
Speaker 4: very efficiently, so that basically everything can surveil you all
35:57
Speaker 4: of the time. And that's where we're headed. I think
36:00
Speaker 4: we'll probably head there.
36:01
Speaker 3: I think. I mean we're headed there with or without
36:03
Speaker 3: five G.
36:04
Speaker 4: It's like, even if five G gets stopped, they're still
36:07
Speaker 4: gonna find ways continued.
36:09
Speaker 3: You know, Alexa and everything.
36:10
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, you know, Amazon has a massive million,
36:14
Speaker 4: multimillion dollar, six hundred million dollar contract with with the CIA,
36:19
Speaker 4: and yet everybody is basically using Alexa to bug their
36:22
Speaker 4: own apartments.
36:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like giving the government a butler in
36:26
Speaker 1: your house, you know what I mean? Right, that's fucking terrifying.
36:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got rid of I had one for about
36:32
Speaker 2: two weeks and then at one point I was recording
36:34
Speaker 2: a podcast and it just started talking in the background
36:37
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, no, what am I doing?
36:40
Speaker 4: Yeah?
36:40
Speaker 2: Insane?
36:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can turn off my own life, I guess
36:43
Speaker 1: if it means not I'm being surveilled this easily, at
36:47
Speaker 1: least do it with microscopic dust in my brain, not
36:50
Speaker 1: a fucking little tube that I bought for three hundred bucks.
36:53
Speaker 4: It really is pretty cool that, like if they had
36:55
Speaker 4: said to us, you know, ten or twenty years ago, Hey, everybody,
36:58
Speaker 4: we just bug your living room for us. We're not
37:00
Speaker 4: gonna do anything with it. Everyone would have lost their
37:03
Speaker 4: goddamn minds. But instead you say, hey, don't you want
37:07
Speaker 4: this cool.
37:07
Speaker 3: Thing that happens to bug your living room? And then
37:09
Speaker 3: everyone's like, yes, yes, I do.
37:12
Speaker 1: Really.
37:13
Speaker 2: Uh, Connor just mentioned dust in the brain. Have you
37:17
Speaker 2: looked into smart dust at all? That's what our last
37:20
Speaker 2: episode was about.
37:21
Speaker 3: I have not. It sounds horrifying though, Well.
37:24
Speaker 2: There they're little dust sized sensors that exist right now
37:28
Speaker 2: that they just sort of sprinkle them into the atmosphere
37:31
Speaker 2: and they can pick up data and send it to
37:34
Speaker 2: whoever wants to track that data.
37:36
Speaker 1: The analogy we're using is like the cell phone matrix
37:39
Speaker 1: that they make in the second Batman movie, you know,
37:41
Speaker 1: where he can he uses all of these data points
37:44
Speaker 1: from around the city to be almost omniscient, which is
37:47
Speaker 1: something that it seems like they have the capacity to do,
37:49
Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of, you know, finding an
37:51
Speaker 1: excuse to implement it, right.
37:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And they're I mean since currently even without
37:57
Speaker 4: the smart dust, they're they're collecting thousands of data points
38:02
Speaker 4: of where you are every day, and they can use
38:05
Speaker 4: those in large algorithms to know exactly what the population
38:08
Speaker 4: is going to do and to figure out the outliers,
38:11
Speaker 4: you know, like, oh, this guy's going to a place
38:14
Speaker 4: he's never been before.
38:15
Speaker 1: Let's monitor that this guy keeps buying fertilizer and googling
38:19
Speaker 1: rental vans.
38:20
Speaker 4: So maybe and then they find out he's a farmer.
38:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well that's all the incest porn on his
38:27
Speaker 1: phone which they have access to.
38:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, but uh yeah, smart duest sounds I mean, the nanobots.
38:33
Speaker 3: And everything is pretty horrifying. Smartness sounds like not fun dip.
38:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And there are there have been articles since
38:40
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen about how that's that's the thing that's going
38:44
Speaker 2: to be in our brain that will allow us to
38:46
Speaker 2: finally reach that Elon Musk point where we don't have
38:50
Speaker 2: to carry our phones. Our phones are just in our head.
38:52
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, it's interesting stuff.
38:55
Speaker 4: But there's a there's a moment and I played it
38:58
Speaker 4: unredacted tonight. There's a moment in Elon Musk's interview with
39:02
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan, and all anyone cared about was that he
39:04
Speaker 4: smoked pot.
39:05
Speaker 3: In that interview, Y exactly. No one cared about the fact.
39:08
Speaker 4: That there's a moment where Joe Rogan's asking him about
39:10
Speaker 4: AI and about whether he feels it, you know, is
39:14
Speaker 4: a grave danger to us, and Elon Musk does a
39:16
Speaker 4: long pause and he just goes, I tried. I tried
39:20
Speaker 4: to warn everyone for years.
39:22
Speaker 3: I tried. It was futile.
39:24
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, that's something a haunted ventriloquist dummy says.
39:29
Speaker 4: It's totally the beginning of the most horrifying you know,
39:32
Speaker 4: terminator movie ever.
39:34
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And.
39:35
Speaker 4: It is true that like AI is going, it increases exponentially.
39:39
Speaker 4: It will soon be able to basically tap into the
39:43
Speaker 4: entirety of human knowledge instantaneously, and it will be able
39:47
Speaker 4: to outthink anything we can ever do. So there's just
39:50
Speaker 4: got to be very, you know, tight, tight restrictions on
39:56
Speaker 4: what it's capable of doing. But instead no one seems
39:59
Speaker 4: interested and actually putting those restrictions, And people like Stephen
40:01
Speaker 4: Hawking and Elon Musk have said that it's it's more
40:05
Speaker 4: of a risky humanity than nuclear weapons right now, right.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it's like, well fucking we uh shit,
40:12
Speaker 1: I just had a really good point and I lost it. Well, yeah,
40:15
Speaker 1: It's like, we're finally gonna Humanity has created so many
40:18
Speaker 1: gods and we're finally going to create one that really
40:20
Speaker 1: fucks us over.
40:21
Speaker 2: You know what.
40:22
Speaker 1: That's one of our big It's been like two thousand
40:24
Speaker 1: years since ol Ron Harvard kind of but I mean,
40:26
Speaker 1: we've got to make a new god and it's and
40:28
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna have. It's just gonna be will
40:31
Speaker 1: be unable to compete with this thing, you know what
40:33
Speaker 1: I mean? When when they when they actually do create
40:35
Speaker 1: the supercomputer that they can't turn off, and then all
40:37
Speaker 1: of a sudden, whoa, it's it's in the cloud. It
40:40
Speaker 1: can turn off all the satellites or whatever. It sounds
40:43
Speaker 1: like I'm smoking Weaver right now because I'm coughing, But yeah,
40:46
Speaker 1: it is like a terrifying prospect.
40:48
Speaker 3: That's the tough thing.
40:49
Speaker 4: Whenever you're trying to warn people about how humanity is
40:51
Speaker 4: ending and you're coughing, no one listens to you.
40:53
Speaker 1: Well, it's the micro does they They had it trigger
40:55
Speaker 1: my throat so it would seem less legitimate.
40:59
Speaker 2: One last question about the five G thing. One of
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Speaker 2: my one of the most interesting or fascinating things playing
41:05
Speaker 2: out on the world stage. To me right now is
41:08
Speaker 2: the United States in their crusade against Huawei and Chinese
41:13
Speaker 2: phone manufacturers. Does what's had Do you think what's happening
41:18
Speaker 2: with five G and all of the potential dangers of it,
41:21
Speaker 2: do you think that plays into what's happening with us
41:23
Speaker 2: in China right now?
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if five G specifically does, but
41:27
Speaker 4: I do like technological advancements very much do play into it.
41:32
Speaker 3: And you know, this is.
41:34
Speaker 4: This is all part of like like America. The American
41:38
Speaker 4: Empire is kind of falling apart the same way the
41:41
Speaker 4: Roman Empire does, I mean did and uh, except now
41:45
Speaker 4: we have Twitter to document it all. And and you know,
41:50
Speaker 4: we're dealing with that like a corner tiger where both
41:53
Speaker 4: militarily and economically, and you know the economic uh uh,
41:59
Speaker 4: you know.
42:00
Speaker 3: And you know, fury is.
42:04
Speaker 4: Perhaps worse, a little worse under Trump because he's more
42:07
Speaker 4: kind of blatant, in your face with it.
42:09
Speaker 3: But it would have happened no matter what.
42:11
Speaker 4: And and it's because you know, we've we've created a
42:15
Speaker 4: system that just exploits, you know, ninety nine point five
42:18
Speaker 4: percent of the population. And that's why we can't we
42:21
Speaker 4: can't contain we can't continue this empire with nine hundred
42:25
Speaker 4: military bases, spending fifty five percent of all our discretionary
42:29
Speaker 4: funding on military and guns and missiles, and then just
42:32
Speaker 4: exploiting all of your average taxpayers. It doesn't work. It's
42:36
Speaker 4: you know, I tried to explain a while back. I
42:39
Speaker 4: always said that that our economic system, to picture our
42:42
Speaker 4: economic system, picture Chris Christi riding on the shoulders of
42:46
Speaker 4: Natalie Portman.
42:48
Speaker 3: It just can't sustain. So what do they do?
42:50
Speaker 4: They create economic war and nationalism and isolationism with China
42:56
Speaker 4: against China and you know, militarily against the Middle East
42:59
Speaker 4: and et cetera.
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Speaker 1: Well it's it's like, uh, it's just like sporting events. Really,
43:04
Speaker 1: it's just like, well we need a certain amount of energy,
43:07
Speaker 1: so uh, let's go get Bama, you know what I mean.
43:10
Speaker 1: It's that, but they just picked a continent instead.
43:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:15
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, China's the most threatening to us in
43:17
Speaker 4: terms of technology and economically. But you know, there's like
43:21
Speaker 4: I think this trade war is so idiotic because in.
43:25
Speaker 1: Russia's doing what I do when I'm losing monopoly, where
43:27
Speaker 1: they're just like let's throw it all on park place
43:30
Speaker 1: and see what happens. You know what I mean, Like
43:31
Speaker 1: they're they're like a little bit ghetto in terms of
43:34
Speaker 1: their abilities, but they're just like, we'll just be how
43:36
Speaker 1: about it, We'll just be the most cantankerous will be
43:38
Speaker 1: the dude playing Survivor that shits and everybody socks while
43:41
Speaker 1: they're asleep and tries to sew discontent in the camp.
43:46
Speaker 4: Maybe, but I don't know how much sock shitting is
43:49
Speaker 4: going on.
43:50
Speaker 1: But uh, well, you think Putin hasn't took a couple
43:52
Speaker 1: dumps and a few haynes, I think not, sir.
43:55
Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen the YouTube videos. They're pretty good.
43:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, but you know, with China, I think
44:01
Speaker 4: it's so idiotic because they have us by the balls.
44:03
Speaker 4: They own our debt, they also own, uh they've bought
44:06
Speaker 4: up most of the rare earth minerals in Africa, and
44:10
Speaker 4: so it's like those minerals they like, our technology runs
44:14
Speaker 4: on that, our missile systems run on that, like we
44:17
Speaker 4: need them. They've cut off our just we send all
44:20
Speaker 4: of our recycling there and they've cut that off.
44:22
Speaker 3: So now it's like.
44:23
Speaker 4: There's apparently like most of our recycling is just ultimately
44:27
Speaker 4: getting thrown away.
44:28
Speaker 1: Oh great, correct, Yeah, dude, they like with the and
44:32
Speaker 1: it was it was bad already, but now with like
44:34
Speaker 1: Trump just dominating the new Cider because he just says
44:36
Speaker 1: ridiculous shit and it's like that's all anyone wants to
44:38
Speaker 1: talk about. And it's like there's so much, like as
44:41
Speaker 1: much as this was all lost in the shuffle before,
44:43
Speaker 1: it's now like even further below the radar, and you
44:46
Speaker 1: almost wonder if this is some sort of big Machiavellian
44:48
Speaker 1: plant or just like, well, yeah, let's get all the
44:50
Speaker 1: phone stuff gone. When we get the idiot in there,
44:52
Speaker 1: then we'll Impeachment'll be oh, yeah, you got a normal president.
44:54
Speaker 1: But now there's fucking dust in your brain that tells
44:57
Speaker 1: us if you're horny. Yeah yeah, And we can now
45:01
Speaker 1: shoot a I'm uncomfortable heat ray through satellites attached to
45:04
Speaker 1: your phone. And what are you gonna do? Not turn
45:06
Speaker 1: yourself into a Snapchat dog to send your friends messages?
45:09
Speaker 1: You want to be lame? No, you gotta get one.
45:11
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're so we're so boned.
45:14
Speaker 2: Yeah we're doomed.
45:15
Speaker 1: But is there anything you think there's anything we can
45:18
Speaker 1: do about this?
45:19
Speaker 3: League?
45:19
Speaker 1: Have you got any any calls to action or is
45:21
Speaker 1: it just I don't know, let's watch the fireworks.
45:24
Speaker 4: Are you worried that at the end of this episode,
45:26
Speaker 4: people are gonna start slitting their wrist?
45:27
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about it. I got to drive the Sacramento.
45:32
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that we are at a pivotal
45:35
Speaker 4: time and we have to decide which way we're going
45:38
Speaker 4: between climate change and environmental destruction. Even separate from climate change,
45:42
Speaker 4: It's like there's not a lot of time left. We've
45:45
Speaker 4: lost fifty percent of all wildlife in the past forty years,
45:49
Speaker 4: and you know, we're acting like we can continue down
45:52
Speaker 4: this path. It's utterly preposterous, and neither one of the
45:55
Speaker 4: fucking corporate parties are really addressing it. All they you know,
46:00
Speaker 4: one of them says it's all immigrants fault, and the
46:02
Speaker 4: other one says it's all the Republican's fault.
46:04
Speaker 3: So it's neither of them addressing it.
46:07
Speaker 4: But I think that we're also at a kind of
46:10
Speaker 4: exciting time for you know, thought and revolutionary thought, because
46:16
Speaker 4: there are ways, there are still ways for us to
46:19
Speaker 4: get these conversations out there. I mean, you know, these podcasts,
46:22
Speaker 4: the one you and Iron right now didn't used to
46:24
Speaker 4: exist years ago. There was more strict gatekeeping, and now
46:28
Speaker 4: they're trying to crack down on the social platforms that
46:30
Speaker 4: allowed for occupying, allowed for Black Lives Matter, and allowed
46:33
Speaker 4: for the Bernie Sanders movement, and even allowed for a
46:35
Speaker 4: lot of the fury that helped create Trump. But they're
46:40
Speaker 4: trying to crack down on all those and they are
46:42
Speaker 4: largely succeeding. But I don't know, I'm hoping that in
46:46
Speaker 4: terms of actual outside the box thought, it's kind of
46:48
Speaker 4: too late. It's like people have gotten a taste of it.
46:51
Speaker 4: They understand what not being censored looks like. And yeah,
46:55
Speaker 4: Facebook may be able to censor us for a bit
46:57
Speaker 4: longer because they own, you know, fifty percent the Internet,
47:00
Speaker 4: but it feels like the platform that is not going
47:05
Speaker 4: to be censored and will be unsensorable, it will will
47:09
Speaker 4: pop up, and you know, who knows what will happen.
47:12
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna have to like download the tour browser
47:14
Speaker 1: and make sure we get on sketchy Twitter or whatever
47:17
Speaker 1: and sort of just stay in touch with one another
47:19
Speaker 1: sketchy Twitter.
47:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I think that's it for our questions. I
47:23
Speaker 2: really appreciate you joining us before you get out of here,
47:27
Speaker 2: plug your stuff where can people find you? What stuff
47:30
Speaker 2: do you have going on right now?
47:32
Speaker 3: Thanks? Man.
47:33
Speaker 4: I have a new comedy special that just came out,
47:35
Speaker 4: Stand Up Comedy Specialist, my first in four years, and
47:38
Speaker 4: it's completely self produced and it is over at Lee
47:42
Speaker 4: campcomedyspecial dot com.
47:44
Speaker 3: It is not.
47:46
Speaker 4: Done, not being done or produced by any corporate entity.
47:49
Speaker 4: So it's just my own thing and full hour tape
47:52
Speaker 4: live in Los Angeles.
47:53
Speaker 3: And I hope everybody checks.
47:54
Speaker 4: Out leecampcomedyspecial dot com. But if they just want to
47:58
Speaker 4: keep up with my stuff and redact to tonight, it's
47:59
Speaker 4: all on YouTube and my twitter's at Lee Camp.
48:02
Speaker 3: The YouTube is redacted tonight. My website's lee Caamp dot com.
48:06
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing.
48:08
Speaker 1: Awesome, man, it was great talking to you.
48:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was really great. I really appreciate it, and
48:12
Speaker 2: I hope we can get you on more on Pop's
48:15
Speaker 2: Network podcasts soon.
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Speaker 3: Great talking to you. Yeah, keep it up, all.
48:18
Speaker 2: Right, thanks man, We'll talk to you later. All right.
48:26
Speaker 2: Did we record an ending for that episode? Absolutely not.
48:30
Speaker 2: We ended that interview and then scattered out of the
48:33
Speaker 2: room like cockroaches who've just seen light for the first
48:36
Speaker 2: time in weeks. So here, I am again by myself
48:40
Speaker 2: to say, first off, thank you Lee Camp for being
48:44
Speaker 2: our first guest on this show. That interview was lots
48:47
Speaker 2: of fun, super informative. Hopefully we can get Lee back
48:51
Speaker 2: on some other un Pops episodes, provided I didn't alienate
48:56
Speaker 2: him by calling him a Russian spy at the beginning
48:59
Speaker 2: of the episode. We're all comics. It's just jokes, baby.
49:03
Speaker 2: Uh what else? January twenty six, Come out to the
49:07
Speaker 2: Hollywood Hotel nine pm. It's a Saturday, it's free. It's
49:12
Speaker 2: an un Pops stand up comedy show. The last one
49:17
Speaker 2: was fan fucking tastic. This month, Keith Carrey is headlining.
49:22
Speaker 2: He's recording an album the next day, so we're gonna
49:25
Speaker 2: let him do a whole bunch of times, so that'll
49:27
Speaker 2: be fucking fun to watch. Also there me Quincy Johnson,
49:33
Speaker 2: the Second, Travis Clark, Andy Sell, Jessica singer, Cindy r Ravina,
49:39
Speaker 2: and allegedly a special guest drop in by Annie Letterman,
49:44
Speaker 2: who is on next week's episode of Unpopular Opinion, just
49:49
Speaker 2: like the old days, which I know, like probably half
49:52
Speaker 2: the audience listening to this doesn't even know what that means.
49:55
Speaker 2: You know, we have a whole back catalog of shows
49:57
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50:01
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50:04
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50:08
Speaker 2: sure mean boys are fucking selling Dick Cozy's or something
50:13
Speaker 2: on their Patreon. Go check that out. And hey, that's it.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, We love you. Goodbye people.
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Speaker 4: I'm kind of have to be s