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RHOC: Pumpkins and Paparazzi · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Hello, what's up?
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Happy Thursday, everybody. It's me Andmmy Phillips and today we're doing Real Housewives
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of Orange County. Emily Teresis is here. High AM's hello. Hello,
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she's fresh faced out after a long flight the Red Eye, if you will,
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but she's here. She is here. Congratulations, I am here,
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Thank you. I am happy to be here. I'm a little tired.
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Yeah, I was able to wake up on the adrenaline of the OC Wives.
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I mean, if that pumpkin carving scene didn't get you awake, I
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don't know what. Well. Yes, Also, I know that you have
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some announcements before I forget because I'm so foggy. I need to make a
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huge apology to Tabe. Okay, no, that's part of the announcements.
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That's part of the announcements. And I think we should I think we should
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kick it off because it is really made waves this week. I don't know
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how many messages you get because you've not you don't really Oh, I checked
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him. I checked him. After that, I got some direct text from
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friend a friend I got direct I was like, maybe I should check Instagram
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and then I got very kind messages. I just I yea, they were
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aware we got let's just clear it up. So last Tuesday we recapped the
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Real Housewives of New York and when Aarin did her storm out from the the
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wreath making party, not the pumpkin carving party, just to be clear,
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and she went out onto the street to complain about Brent. She made a
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phone call to which both not just one but Emily and I missed who she
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was calling, and we just thought it was Abe and it wasn't. It
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was her, not no, and and you know what, look and people
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said, it's you know, you got to confuse, probably because Aaron's sister
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has a very low voice. Well I could also argue that Abe has a
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high voice. So I don't know where we went wrong, but I apologize.
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I think we were both making notes ya respectively, and then not looking
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at the subtitle that came up, and it wasn't up for very long.
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I don't take my eyes off that long. But mistakes were made, and
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I'm going to own them. I'm going to own it too, and I
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apologize. We both really, I you know, it's it's not typical that
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we both biff something at the same time because we usually are like one picks
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up for the other. But wow, and also there were other people that
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said I thought it was Abe too. So listen, you know it was
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out there and we have regrets, and we're willing to go to the couches
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today and say we were sorry. If you felt like we confused Aaron's sister
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for Abe, if he felt that way, then we're sorry. If you
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felt that way, then we apologize. Okay, if if if you felt
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some sort of way about it, and I take now I stand by had
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it been Abe, I would have felt that way, but it wasn't.
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It was Aaron's sister that called Brenna bitch. Abe did not. I repeat,
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Abe did not call Brenna bitch. So let's just sweep it up.
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We've cleaned it up, and uh, it's on the record now, you
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know. Look, we're human. We make mistakes and uh, woof,
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woof. You know this is why eyewitnesses are terrible, uh for solving crimes,
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because we think, we swear we heard and saw one thing and turns
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out we weren't even looking. And that you know what that's going to be
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talked about on Orange County when we get to that today, yes, but
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certainly by the end of the week, which I mean tomorrow's the end of
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the week. But is it possible that Josh is going to close the deal
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I'm very excited about that. I cannot wait. So much work has gone
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continue on work that I am like thrilled to be doing. It's just I
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love to work, you know, I love to work, but like I'm
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especially excited about this work. So that's that. And also, so today
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we're doing Orange County Tomorrow's Project Runway. The bonus episode up this week on
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Patreon is My Thoughts and Your Calls on the Bethany Rachel interview also a hint
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of the reality reckoning, But I may do a follow up on that next
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week because there have definitely been some updates, like Ariana's response to that interview,
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Bethany's response to everyone's response to that interview, you know, things like
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that that I'd like to weigh in on because some of my thoughts have not
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necessarily fully changed, but they've evolved since there have been other things that have
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been said. And I also just really want to make it, you know,
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transparent that your bitch wife has her own opinions. You know, I
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don't think that the interview and what Bethany's doing, what Rachel's doing is black
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and white. You when you listen, you're going to find that I'm not
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going to be one hundred percent slamming Bethany. I'm also not going to be
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dragging Rachel over the coals. I have empathy for Rachel in this situation.
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Do I think that she's a liar on many aspects? Absolutely? Do I
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think that Bethany is a narcissist. Absolutely, But it's also not that black
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and white. There's some truth to a lot of some of the some of
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the points there is truth to and I'm going to stand by what I feel
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is right and what I feel is wrong. So my podcast, in my
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takes on things, they're just not going to be one hundred percent dragging someone.
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I don't go that way. I'm not going to stand for the Rachel
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drag. I'm just not going to. I can't. I can't do it.
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She's a human being, she made mistakes, Bethany's human being who continues
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to cause ripples in the in the way of the reality sphere for better or
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worse. But I'm also not going to flush the baby without with the bathwater.
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It's just not what I do. So those are going to be my
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opinions. I noticed some deletes from my Patreon after that interview. Wow,
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some subscribers full on pieced out respect. But you also may not have listened
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to the whole podcast that I did, so and that's fine. But this
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is where I stand. I'm just simply not I'm not a Hondi hater.
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I'm not a Hondy hater, and I'm not going to join the bandwagon on
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that. I see podcasters social media doing it every single day. My take
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is different. That's where I come in and so I'll stand I stand by
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my dish. I stand by my dish. Yeah, that being said,
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speaking of dish, we got to serve some up baby serving dish. Oh
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my gosh, Well, there is there's a lot. Okay, first in
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the news, breaking, breaking, breaking, and this is everywhere, but
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I'm going at page six, Summerhouse stars Lindsay Hubbard and Carl Radkey have called
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off their engagement. I saw that this morning. That's a lot of you
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don't watch. I don't, but I but what I did see. What
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I'm now thinking is these media outlets are well Page six is basically a Bravo
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blog at this point. But I mean everyone's covering it, So I think
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like they realize the value of these reality stars in terms of the ups and
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down since Sandoval. Because now, if you've noticed, I think these kinds
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of like we we would some we'd always get on TMZ and page six,
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but now we're getting it. We I mean like we're getting it everywhere.
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It's coming out La Times, Variety. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
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I oh, it's on MSNBC. Oh my god. Well no,
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but I mean is Variety covering this? No, I'm joking, but they
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do dip out. They do dip into things like that, and you know,
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Deadline and things like that. I mean Deadline does it does more announcements,
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but Summerhouse stars. They say that the two were set to get married
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in November, but Carl told Lindsay he couldn't move forward with the wedding,
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a source told Entertainment Tonight the breakup was filmed and will most likely play out
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on the next season of Summer House. The former couple's reps didn't immediately return
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Page six's request for comment. Despite the breakup, both Lindsay and Carl have
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kept up all photos together on their Instagram feeds, and they also still follow
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each other on social media. I love that they check that. This news
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comes just two weeks after Carl was on a special appearance with at He made
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a special appearance at Lindsay's garden themed bridle shower on August twelve. I mean
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they straight up already had a bridal shower on that was filmed on the show.
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I mean they were in it, in it to win it. She
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was planning her bachelorette party. I believe that it was supposed to be in
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the Bahamas. They were going to get married, I believe, in Mexico
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in November, and now the question remains, is this a PR stunt?
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People are saying, is this a PR stunt? You know, what do
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we make of this? Is this real? I mean it certainly probably is
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real in the sense that it happened, But what's at the bottom of it
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now? I would like to say, out of my naivete, I was
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shocked to see this news. I look, when it comes to certain things,
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these are my weak spots, like I'm not you know, I'm not
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going to really always have the right instincts about certain things, and certainly with
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this I didn't. I really thought they would make it to the altar.
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A lot of people are not surprised, that being Angela Quintana when she texted
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me this morning saying that she wasn't shocked, I was. But I just
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wonder if in fact they will like Elope, you know, they'll have their
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tumultuous thing and then they'll just go on Elope and then that will be the
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storyline. I just I would love it if people would sound off in the
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comments, darlings, because what are your takes on this? You know,
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I know you don't watch Emily, but this is I mean it's not scannabll,
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but it's a very tumultuous relationship, and everyone was coming between them and
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right, I mean I kind of know like the broad strokes about it,
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but okay, I would say too, like you know, just in general,
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it's got to be very intoxicating to be in that environment. And I
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could see them getting swept up in the moment and then like changing. I
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mean, they weren't together that long, right, like right, they they
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weren't together that long before they got engaged. I mean it was like maybe
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a year, but they've known each other for like five years. That's the
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thing. Yeah, I don't know, I can see you know, maybe
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I don't know. I just I wasn't that taken with it. But I
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also don't know that all the drama with the show. So yeah, well
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it was a real takedown and Danielle who like they it seemed like they had
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mended fences this season because Danielle was at her bridal shower and she was in
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pictures and stuff like that, so it seemed like, you know, things
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were heading in the right direction. I will say, but you still think
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that they're doing all this and going to have a private wedding. I think
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that nobody reality does that. Well maybe if they everything is like exploited from
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you know, their engagement was on TV, their batch, their her wedding
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shower was on TV. The storyline is all about them getting married, And
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wouldn't that be an interesting choice if they just eloped? Yeah, Bravo would
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murder them if they're like, you're not going to show us the damn wedding?
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Are you kidding me? Right now? Wait? Who was it that
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did that? Oh? Kenya, Kenya did that? They'll pull a Kenya
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remember when she developed? But that's because her now Mark X, Yeah,
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he was not into it. He didn't, like I could see. But
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they're right, they're both into it. So I could somebody. I think
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maybe somebody else did it, but I'm no. I think I'm thinking of
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Kelly Dodd. But she was already off the show, right right, right
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right. They had a probate during COVID. Yeah, so I think,
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well, Kelly Dodd would have. But I think like these guys wanted that
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wedding on TV like that. I don't know they're there for it absolutely,
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but I think that this if they did make the choice to Elope, it
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would almost prove like, see you, we're not that thirsty. It is
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real love and that and that in and of itself would be like a narrative,
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you know what I'm saying. Wow, I don't. Again, I
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don't know these players as well as you do, but I'm not thinking,
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well, you know the game. You know the game? Yeah, the
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game. So I already No, you got to throw that in there at
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any point, Yes, it will come up a lot. Already. Know
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that these people want money and a contract, so a wedding's the best way
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to ensure that for a season. Well, maybe they're also like stretching it
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out so that they can get that wedding spin off talking all right, question,
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yes, because we do love that too. We love it? If
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are they they think it? Love it? Love it? All right?
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Enough about them, let's talk about Sheena. She and how pay six is
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reporting that she doubled down on the Raquel Levis track that she created. And
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it's so I don't know if you've heard, but Sheena dropped a track.
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It was at the end of August and it's called Apples and it's about like
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her betrayal, you know, Rachel's betrayed. Uh, how Rachel betrayed Shina
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and how she's a liar and all that stuff. So now Sheena has gotten,
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you know, an apple tattoo next to probably like Honeymoon, Sugar Ocean
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Star. It's all happening, like, you know, somewhere along the line
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of that. But I'm thinking, like, do you really want to put
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an apple representing like a toxic situation in your life on your body? Oh
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God? Why? Shea Why? Yeah? That doesn't make sense. And
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I also feel like at some point the VPR crew is going to start.
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I mean, we're kind of far out from it now. It's it's souring.
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Is that what you're saying? Oh yeah, it's souring, honey.
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It's jarred up and it is like fermenting, and it's not going to be
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pretty. I mean, I can't. The list is so long. I'm
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not saying Rachel is in this category, but the list is so long of
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people that, uh, the media, we as an audience, that like
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are now twenty years down the road being like, oh god, we really
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destroyed them. And what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying when I talk
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about when I did that podcast recently, It's like, I just I'm not
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going to like it's a someone in a public square. Yeah, it's a
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genre. Now, Oh, spoiler alert. They weren't idiot, they weren't.
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We We kind of were a huge part of their takedown, like Monica
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Lewinsky's O'Connor beasts, Tanya Harding, you know, like all that like that.
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Well, that's what I'm saying. And I don't mean I'm sorry to
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interrupt you, but I am real, like I'm revvd up about it because
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I can disagree with Bethany all day on how terrible the interview was with Rachel,
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but I don't necessarily want to focus on that. I'm also like,
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just because there are a lot of you know, misses in the situation,
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doesn't mean that what she's trying to do with unionizing reality stars for whether or
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not she's doing it for the right reasons or not, doesn't mean that that's
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not good stuff. Because later on down the line, you know, we
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all bitch and complain about why doesn't Bravo do this protect their stars. I
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can't believe that they don't do this. How come they haven't come out with
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a statement. You know, we all bitch and complain about how they're not
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doing enough for this and that, and while they screwed up here, Well,
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isn't that kind of like what Bethany is rallying for to make these changes
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so that things like that don't happen. I think that we're all missing a
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little bit of the point here, and it's getting lost in the mouth of
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a messenger, unfortunately, because now Bethany Bethy bringing in Rachel for that interview
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kind of screwed up her cause, I think because it looked like exploitation when
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in fact, and So's there's a lot of their tentacles, you know.
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And I also don't think that Rachel is in a place just yet where we
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she is sounding like she's saying her own thoughts and so, yeah, I
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don't know she ever will be because I don't think she has that kind of
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personality to sustain that, which is like right, but maybe down the line
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something could change. But you're right, she wasn't ready for that situation.
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Yeah, So it all felt off, it all felt and it didn't work.
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It didn't work right. And I'm not I don't want to hang out
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with her necessarily. I'm not saying that I'm not going that hard, but
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I just am like maybe don't get a tattoo and then keep, like,
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you know, releasing tracks about your finial for this person. It's it's not
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healthy. Yeah, and it's also not a banger. I hate to say
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it. It's just you know, you know I love Shenanigans. You know,
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I die for Shenanigans. You know, I love that gal and I
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love good as Goal. I love her music. But this song it falls
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short, and so does the tattoo. I just think it's beneath her.
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You know, it's a low. It's just like I don't know, Yeah,
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it just feels at this point a little late, and it would be
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a little bit forgivable if it was like the heat of the moment kind of
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thing. Well, tracks take time, Emily, tracks take time, and
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production do they? With Sheena? I mean I could probably put that together
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on garage band. I mean I personally couldn't, but people could people anyway.
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Anyway, that said, I haven't listened to the interview. If I'm
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like what they are talking about, like murdering villages and I stood by this.
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No, I think we're I think we're on the right track. It's
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just it's going to be interesting this next season of vander Pump rules very very
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very very interesting, and I will say I'd get Bethany's logic. I thought
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that was really sound in terms of we have to do something and unionize because
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this is the best time to do it. Who is the person that's going
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to get a lot of attention for this and is feeling the effects of it.
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Well, all that on paper makes sense to me, So I will
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say it didn't seem like a bad idea, right right, Yeah. Anyway,
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Look, things aren't perfect the way things get done, they're not perfect.
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And on that note, neither is Martha Stewart apparently, because she was
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on a cruise and okay, let's see she was where was she somewhere with
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glaciers? So oh yeah, she was in Greenland. Okay, so she
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was in Greenland and she posted a picture of her drinking a cocktail and she
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basically said in her posts, which it's probably deleted now all right, I
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found the quote this is what our Instagram posts that she said, end of
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the first Zudia cruise from swan Helly cruise into a very beautiful fjord on the
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east coast of Greenland. We actually captured a small iceberg for our cocktails tonight.
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Okay, hold on, look at Emily Space. She's she's absolutely astounded
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and horrified. Now listen, I I'm just I'm horrified already by the length.
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But go ahead, the length of what how much she's written? This
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is impressive? Oh oh oh oh yeah, you must not be a follower
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of Martha. No. Really, she goes for it. She goes for
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it. Go ahead. Sorry, very descriptive words, so you know,
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she got a lot of you know, slap back for that. People were
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like, global warming and melting ice cups. We need glacier ice for cocktails.
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Someone else else said that keeping cocktails cold using the remnants of a glacier
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sounds like a line from a dystopian novel. Anyway, people went on,
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but glaciologist at the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marina and Antarctic Studies, Ian
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Allison agreed. That agreed, saying that the environmental impact from fossil fuels powering
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the cruise ship was far greater than that caused by Stuart putting some ice into
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her glass, so he said, he described as zero, like, there's
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no problem here. They didn't like chip off a glacier from the actual glacier.
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What they do is on a lot of these cruise ships is they take
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the glaciers that are already fallen into the water that are melting will eventually just
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melt away, and they take a big block of it and they chip away
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at it. So, okay, I thought you were just explaining like a
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technique with ice. I did not realize it was an actual glacier. But
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okay, oh no, it was a glacier. Okay, had fallen a
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piece of glacier that fell into the water in Greenland. They scoop it up
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and it's just something that they do. So people had a real hard time
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with that, and then they got some professionals and said, everyone, chill
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out, literally chill out. And Martha's not doing anything wrong, but if
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anything like taking a cruise using those fossil fuels is way worse. So yeah,
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okay, fair, that's your Martha Stewart news. Before we get into
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Bravo recaps and other content. Now, Emily and I have to get into
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Orange County. The episode was ripped, and I have to say I'm been
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very impressed with this season so far. So how about duh the Ladies of
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Orange County? Emily, Wow, First of all, I have to right
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my wrong because again, much like saying that that was Abe on the phone,
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I also said that Jen was a friend of she's a full on housewife.
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Oh did you say that? Must have been on a different one.
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I would it was like two weeks ago. Hell yeah. But that said,
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you know, I feel like because we all skip the intros now,
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yes, we kind of missed those things. And it used to be.
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Do you remember, like when you have somebody a new cast member, sometimes
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they wouldn't be in the intro right away, like they way to mid season
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to put them in. Am I crazy? I think that used to be
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the thing. So like the New York, the New New York. I
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watched that intro once, yeah, just to get the vibe. But hear
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taglines. But like I'd say to Bravo, if you want us to watch
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the intro, maybe throw in a couple new taglines this season and we'll tune
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in. That's a good spot for some uh ad placement too, Like I'm
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like, I want to make that intro NASCAR so ah, but yeah I
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did know that, but not because I watched the intro. Sure, no,
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you're right, and I knew it at one point too. It's just,
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you know, it's the break. I know. I have to say,
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like I'm pretty hard on myself in terms of because and ever I listen
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to a recap or anything like even like Howard Stern, when there's like they
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make a mistake, I will out loud be correcting them. Yeah, and
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then and so I just want to say, I see you, darlings,
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and I know I see you too. I do too. I agree because
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everyone, yeah, we are them and they are us. So when you
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are correcting me out loud, I feel it and I thank you. Yeah.
27:26
I'm open to be corrected all day long. You know I need to
27:30
be checked. Well, yeah, because they're just yeah, there's only so
27:37
much we can keep up with. Sometimes too, we need the help.
27:38
We need to look down at our notes and miss that it's not abe walking
27:44
now. I do think it was funny we did get This is another thing
27:48
that Terry and Heather's house was the third highest sale in history of Orange County,
27:53
which I actually thought it was the first highest sale, but that that
27:56
didn't seem right at the time. And Amy, I can I also say,
28:00
like, even though we make mistakes here and there, you are the
28:02
Terry Debreau of podcasting. Thank you so much. I feel that that's why
28:07
I'm always wearing my black leather jacket. Yeah, yeah, here I am.
28:14
So Anyway, we are kind of already talking about Josh Altman and Heather
28:18
being there, and then they walk out, and then they the buyers sign
28:22
as they're walking out, so they have a bottle of dumb. Do you
28:26
think that's how that happened? I don't know, to be honest with you,
28:30
It looked pretty real to me. It looks because it is a real
28:34
deal. I think Terryan Heather didn't know, but I think maybe Josh and
28:41
the producers had a date good idea. Yeah, because it wasn't like and
28:45
Terran Heather are up for something like that? Oh yeah, like a reveal
28:49
like that? Sure, what you didn't see? Did you watch the never
28:53
before seen no never you mean like the deleted no what on Peacock on Peacack.
29:00
Yes. As they're having that huge celebration before Heather's ass hits the seat
29:07
on the way back down, she's complaining about her friends circle and what well
29:15
she's working. You know, she's still on camera, She's got a further
29:18
the storyline. She's working. She's showing up. She's showing up. You
29:22
know, you got to show up. And Emily and Gina show up at
29:25
Harley Davidson and it's funny like there are a lot of like motorcyclists in the
29:30
Newport, like you know, Orange County area, and and I'm with Gina
29:37
it's danger realises, I mean it's dangerous. You just hear about these fluke.
29:45
I get worried about people on motorcycles. And doctor Laura, you know,
29:49
I get worried about her all the time. She does her motorcycle She's
29:55
been doing it for years. But anyway, so camera, I'm also like,
30:02
I just worry that well Emily, she does have a drink or too.
30:07
I hope she doesn't have a drink or too and get it on that
30:07
motorcycle, because that's when I get really nervous. I would think she would
30:11
have enough foresight if anyone's gonna know to not right from wrong. I don't
30:17
think Emily could do that. I really well, only because like I and
30:19
correct me if I'm wrong. I've only heard this from my friends that are
30:23
have ride motorcycles that you know, they might have uh, two glasses of
30:29
wine at dinner and then drive home regular but like on a motorcycle, they're
30:33
like, Nope, can't do it. Well, there's a local bar up
30:37
here that has motorcycles in front of it all the time, and I just
30:41
go and that might just be my Yeah, but Emily, Emily don't.
30:51
I'm not going to leave me alone, not going to Oh, geez mine
30:56
a beeswax. So Gina expresses to Emily that she's pissed that Shannon brought up
31:03
her kids and that they were almost taken away by CBS. So now I'm
31:11
I mea dish. She brought up my yees get away. It's such a
31:21
journey. It's just like a roller that she can go from like a whisper
31:26
to a scream and a yell. It's it's very textured. Now we go
31:33
to Shannon's house, which, by the way, in real time, I
31:36
forgot to put this in the dish. But Shannon is moving right now,
31:40
like legit, packing up her house. I don't know. Everybody loves that
31:47
house and you love it because you probably think it's a houseboat. I love
31:52
her houseboat. It's so cool. It's a land house boat. Well,
31:56
she's gonna sail it somewhere else, Emily, I don't know what's going on.
32:00
But Taylor was there helping her pack. I mean she's getting out.
32:07
Huh, who wants Who wants Taylor there helping you? All right, girls,
32:12
I'm a great packer. I love bubble wrap. Who wants Taylor there
32:19
in the pack? She's like squid more like, I don't want no she
32:28
They're just gonna drink and like roll around and bubble they're gonna hire. Look.
32:32
I don't know, but the word on the street people are saying,
32:36
like her hoa is passed that she's like filming all the time, so they
32:39
don't like want that, which can be a real problem. You know,
32:44
absolutely, Wow, I never gosh, how did I never think about an
32:49
h and something like this? Of course, but she's been there for several
32:52
years and they haven't had a problem, So that may just be a silly
32:58
rumor. But you know, she's got you know, some of her kids
33:04
that they she's both of her kids. She dropped them off at college,
33:07
both of her twins. Yeah. Right, she's like an empty nester now.
33:13
But that house is so great. I was watched just in this episode,
33:15
I know, I was like, I think Shannon might have my favorite
33:19
house. Wow, well only because it's it's not gigantic, it's got a
33:24
pool. Although I do like the Kyle's house that Sutton lived in. Yeah,
33:30
that one probably would have been my favorite too. Yeah, I think
33:32
that's my favorite because like Vanderpump's house looks I like, like I can't even
33:37
do the math on that, like in terms of just walking and yeah walking,
33:45
I don't know where it exists, like on a cloud, you know,
33:47
I don't know how. Yeah, I can't get there all right.
33:51
Anyway, So she's moving, So Shannon's at her house with John and then
34:00
comes over great without makeup by the way Shannon does. Yeah, I also
34:05
like she looks younger or something. I just liked her. Sometimes they just
34:08
do too much, you know, they they get made up so much that
34:13
takes away from their natural beauty and they don't need it. I would say,
34:15
peel a layer or two, you know. Yeah, she's like softer
34:20
or something. I don't know. I liked it. I think, thank
34:22
you. I that's that's it's very nice of you to say. I just
34:27
I do feel it low. It's the real, for real. Oh,
34:30
don't get worried. I got some thoughts on you, Shannon coming up.
34:32
But now, wait, are you saying Tamra looks good without makeup or sh
34:37
Shannon? Okay? Good? Because when they when they came to that,
34:43
John was leaving and she didn't have makeup on and her hair was like not
34:45
made up and stuff. I was like, she looks great. Yeah,
34:49
and she was very, uh, you know, vulnerable. She was like,
34:52
he is an avoid I'm a communicator. We never gone on trip,
34:55
We've never gone on trips. That's the part of me that says, is
34:59
he really into it? And then they just get right to it and Tara's
35:00
like, is he afraid to get married? And She's like, it's possible.
35:04
I mean, we don't even talk about it. And then Tarama's like
35:07
in her confessional, she just rips into them every time. She's like,
35:10
is he afraid to get married? That's a huge red flag. No talk
35:14
of marriage, that's bad. And then but when Shannon says, I've loved
35:21
John more than I've loved anyone before, and I'm not willing to give up
35:24
on our relationship. I really believe her, and she gets choked up and
35:29
I want her to be happy, you know, And then Tamra says something
35:32
along lines of that she and Eddie are going through a dry spell with sex.
35:37
And then Shannon, without skipping a beat, oh we're good there,
35:39
don't worry about us there, it's fine, And I'm like, okay,
35:45
oh yeah. I think that Shannon can't get out of her way on this.
35:50
And I think that I don't particularly like John, but I think his
35:54
kids are the priority, and I do you respect that? So I can.
35:59
I mean, I've picked up enough here and there that it seems like
36:01
the kids have a problem with Shannon, and at least one the kids.
36:06
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I guess, like I don't know,
36:13
I don't think that they do need to get married. But Tamra seems to
36:15
think that's a huge problem. Yeah, that is so interesting. You know,
36:20
it might be an oc thing or like because Jen and Ryan and there's
36:23
just this whole thing about the tradition of getting married, like you have to
36:30
do that, and it's wild that some people really hold on to that when
36:34
you're like, you know, I mean, you've been married, you've had
36:36
all these kids. Do you really need to do that? Is that really
36:39
a red flag? I don't necessarily think so if you're fully committed, and
36:44
I do understand the legalities of and the security of wanting to get married,
36:49
because if you are going to be with someone for the rest of your life
36:52
or until you know you decide not to be, you know, there is
36:55
the benefit of obviously being legally married because of all this stuff, like you
37:00
know, if somebody has to go to the hospital and you know you've got
37:05
you need to have someone to speak on your behalf, all those things that
37:07
you don't think about. Marriage is important when it comes to those types of
37:10
things, or at least a legal document, legal document. I guess,
37:15
like I think, like my mom and dad are both remarried, and I
37:20
think, like my mom remarried like fully in both of them. I was
37:25
an adult when they separated all that, but I do think on behalf of
37:30
the kids. It is like I can see where if you're not crazy about
37:35
the other person's spouse or you don't know them that well, like you kind
37:40
of want to be like, hey, uh, maybe don't make that person
37:45
you're executor or you know that kind of thing. Is that right? And
37:52
make sure to get a prenup. Maybe don't make it his and hers.
37:55
This is uh second late, you know, and you're kind of later in
37:59
life like, hey, you have you raised good kids. I'm venting right
38:02
now because I'm completely agree. It's some different decisions. And then we had
38:07
it like all like all the kids on each side kind of came together and
38:12
asked them to, hey, we don't want each other's uh stuff, like
38:16
your dad's stuff or my mom, like, let's let's talk to our parents
38:21
and try to sort this out. And so they did end up changing things.
38:24
Oh wow, that's a unique situation. Yeah, that they listened to
38:30
you and that everybody was on the same page. Yes, yes, So
38:32
I feel for John's kids, and I don't know if Shannon's kids care one
38:38
way or the other. But maybe they're like, hey, like, we
38:42
don't want to, you know, have this person coming in our life and
38:45
then we have to, like, you know, all of a sudden,
38:49
everything changes legally, right, And they may not be aware of that right
38:52
now because they're so young, so it's not like they can really think of
38:54
that, which is why it's important for the adults to think of these things.
38:59
Yeah. Now, speaking of marriage, Jen and Ryan work out and
39:04
we find out that he did go to the jeweler to get a ring for
39:08
her, so and they're talking about marriage, and she, now on camera,
39:15
is being like, so, why do you want to tie it down?
39:20
I don't understand. You've been such a bad boy. How can you
39:24
want to be together forever with one person? And he's just like a baby,
39:31
Oh, those boobies and me, all three of us, wah,
39:36
honey, there was nobody. I'm just now I'm making him have an access.
39:40
So sorry. But she's like, but someone did come between us.
39:45
You can't say that someone didn't come between us, because there was someone between
39:52
us. And he's like, no, but that person between us was a
39:54
fig man. It was like a ghost did they and they weren't even there,
39:58
but they were it was nothing. He totally gassed at her on You
40:02
sure did, because you could tell that the narrative has changed. I've been
40:09
there, like in terms of like being in a bad relationship and you want
40:15
it to work, so you're willing to start believing the bullshit. And I
40:20
think that that's what's happening with that she's trying to like the reason why she's
40:25
saying these things is more for us. Yes, I have to say this
40:30
because the viewers will want to hear me say, but why do you want
40:35
to tie it down? It's not that I want to know, it's that
40:38
the viewers everybody else wants to know that we were on a break. I
40:44
know that. But then she's like kind of coming through that it wasn't that
40:49
situation right, And he is like totally kind of like forcing that narrative on
40:58
her, and she's kind of queer saying, I'm not quite that wasn't right.
41:01
But then you can see like she really wants to believe it because she
41:07
can't have this failure right. His excuse didn't mean anything. I wrote it
41:12
down. It didn't I mean, it didn't make sense, he said,
41:14
But somebody didn't come between us. You can't say because we didn't know if
41:19
we were ever going to get back together and we decided to take a break,
41:22
that somebody came between us. That is a non existent explanation. He
41:29
literally is great at saying nothing. And when Jen says in her confessional there
41:35
were zero rules and parameters around us taking a break and that they were talking
41:39
all of the time, he full on cheated. Yes, that's not a
41:45
break. I yeah, I can see, because he's so good in terms
41:50
of manipulating. I could see him saying, like, I'm getting a little
41:54
confused. I love you so much, I don't really know what I should
41:59
do or whatever. And he's like, Okay, I've clearly told her we're
42:02
on a break, and yeah, let me lean in to fix this,
42:07
right right. Yeah, And they haven't explained why they took a break.
42:13
What was it that they didn't know why they the rest of the time together.
42:16
What was it? Remember at the dinner at one of the dinner,
42:22
I'm sure it was on a house. But he said that he was overwhelmed
42:29
with the kids and like that break up, like her marriage breakup, and
42:34
he was just overwhelmed. So he had to take a minute when he was
42:37
explaining to Eddie and Shannon and Tamra and those guys. Remember he had like
42:42
that short monologue. Yeah, and we I think we spoke on it briefly.
42:46
But it's just hard to believe him, that's all. But sure,
42:51
how about his confessional He says, did she expect me to carry on and
42:55
connect with let me back that up, have sex with somebody else? Wait,
43:00
you just made it worse. You backed it up and then made it
43:01
worse by saying. Well. I have to say I appreciated the honesty there,
43:06
Okay, because if he said connect and didn't say have sex, then
43:09
I would have been like, all right, buddy, so you're sugarcoating it
43:13
with everyone then, so just come out with it, all right? He
43:16
did. That's fair, that's fair. Yeah. Well, when he says
43:20
I wouldn't put like our seven kids, I'm just like, oh my god,
43:25
you guys have seven kids, you know what, Go into your corners
43:30
and deal with your fucking life. Yeah, you know. I just this
43:34
is the point where I'm going. You know, people are just so selfish,
43:37
and I know there's something to be said about you gotta be happy.
43:43
If you're not happy, you can't like if you don't love yourself, you
43:46
can't love others, you can't take care of it. Okay, blah blah
43:50
blah blah blah. But at the end of the day, it seems very
43:54
self indulgent to me when you are rushing into a relation and ship, when
44:00
you've got when they're all these kids involved, I just take a fucking breath.
44:07
You know it's a Scotie yes in Atlanta. Yes, a breath.
44:14
You've already put them in a bad position, period dots. Yeah. I'm
44:16
just not for it. I'm fine with Jen doing whatever it's Yeah, yes,
44:23
go back to your Stephanie Holman indoor fountain pool Ryan in the middle of
44:30
your living room and have a soak and think about what you've done. All
44:39
right. So Tamar and Eddie went to go work out. It shreds because
44:44
cut fitness is the closes fitness, but they were wearing all cut fitness gear.
44:47
It was amazing. I was like, this is amazing, and I
44:51
know that a producer curated this scene. I was like, there's no reason
44:54
for them to be going to a gem, like they have workout stuff in
44:59
their house and sure, yes, you're right, you're so Like it just
45:02
seemed like they thought it would be kind of cute for them to be,
45:07
you know, eating crow and going to another gym in Orange County U.
45:12
And I appreciate them embracing that and being like with the new kids on the
45:15
block. Since Cut finnis cuts that we got the gem with tails is in
45:19
our legs. It's like, it's just really nothing. There's really nothing there.
45:23
We'll get to it. I really wish we knew what that pumpkin patch
45:28
was that Taylor was at. I think we maybe got a wisp of a
45:30
title for that. We saw Shreds twenty times twenty. I saw the the
45:35
name of Shreds more than I ever saw Cut Fitness. We never saw Aaron's
45:38
sisters name, and yet we saw Shreds logo, the making of the logo,
45:44
like then building the complex. I feel like we had a confessional from
45:49
the Shreds manager, not a not a ten second, not even like a
45:54
point three second lower third for Aaron's sister in New York. I then thought,
46:00
well, why are they wearing all the cut Fitness stuff? And then
46:04
I was like, why didn't they ever do like an online Cut Fitness membership
46:08
program, like like a band workout or like I think they maybe during COVID,
46:15
did they Okay, I think Eddie was doing classes during COVID. I
46:19
mean but I'm talking like download the Cut Fitness app kind of like a major
46:24
thing. Like why wouldn't they have done that? I guess that's a great
46:28
idea. Well, I couldn't have been the only one that thought. I
46:30
mean, I would like to know why they didn't do that, because that
46:36
seems like low branch. They could they did something where they were doing online
46:39
classes like during COVID, and if that wasn't if that didn't meet the mark
46:45
of like, you know, being successful enough, then maybe they were like
46:47
the numbers say we shouldn't do an app. Oh maybe, but like they
46:52
they have the platform, you don't have fun to take a class with camera?
46:57
How fun would that done? Yeah? Or just like you know,
47:00
subscribing you get like all these classes, Like I get that, Like a
47:05
lot of their thing is like, uh, these machines and weights and all
47:08
that, but like you could come up with a really great resistant band workout
47:13
for Cut Fitness and tell the shit out of it. I don't get it.
47:15
Well, I mean in terms of a monthly subscription thing. I mean
47:20
I think it's a great idea. Maybe they just were on their motorcycles going
47:23
on vacation too many times. Maybe they just didn't have the availability. They've
47:28
also got their CBD business, which is huge. Now let's get into these
47:34
Shannon and Heather and Gina and whatever. Yes, so Shannon Heather talk at
47:40
lunch and this was just like, oh my god, I had shed Heather's
47:45
I'm sorry. I had Shannon's attitude like are we back here again, like
47:47
we're really trying to do this, and her non like her inability to be
47:54
able to like open her arms to this, I felt deep within my soul.
47:59
She was like, I just I don't know how we're gonna get through
48:02
that. We've already tried to sit down twice, and I'm hurt. And
48:06
Tamra and Emily both say that you they didn't bring up your my relationship,
48:09
but you did, and I just And then Heather with her moment, you
48:14
know, with the crime an apology, her if her which was, you
48:19
know, here's the thing, here's what I think was very important for this
48:22
scene. Heather said. When Tamra came back to the group, meaning back
48:25
to the show, she was like, are you getting the calls. Are
48:29
you hearing about Shannon and John? And then and Heather was like, an,
48:32
I didn't even let give it life and I didn't say anything. Now
48:37
we got the proof of that, We got the receipts. There were two
48:40
separate flashbacks of Tamra stirring it up, trying to get Heather to talk,
48:47
and Heather legit shutting it down or pivoting in the other direction. So I
48:53
hope that Shannon sees that because that is proof that she did, in fact
48:59
try to buck camera is little you know, little ass up in the air
49:04
to try to stir it up. She did. So she did do it.
49:07
She did it right, I mean later with those other confessionals, but
49:10
that was down the line at first. She didn't she didn't like give way
49:14
to it. And I also believe everyone that Shannon seems to have a habit
49:20
of getting drunk and calling them one on one without the cameras. Right,
49:24
Yeah, that's that's very coo. I mean we yeah, that's and clearly
49:30
like we know that trace amigas does that. We heard it when that voicemail
49:36
or whatever leaked when they called Vicky's X. But like there's no way that
49:45
uh Shannon can deny, Like, look at your phone records. How long
49:49
was that call you made at one am? Time? Had That's a really
49:52
good point. Go back in your phone and see, yeah, it's right
49:58
there. You you weren't talking about recipes. The other thing is that,
50:01
And we get into this in the Pumpkin Patch. But Shannon really does not
50:07
and I don't think ever has gone after anyone's relationship, and yet she is
50:12
always the recipient. She is always the first one. Shannon does not go
50:16
after people's relationships. Yeah, am I wrong? She wouldn't after I think
50:22
so, Like, I mean, what am I missing? What do I
50:24
don't remember? Do I have Shannon brain? No? I I just like
50:29
they did that whole montage. She goes after people all the time. I
50:35
mean, like maybe she doesn't go after Tamer and Eddie and maybe she didn't,
50:37
but she went after Brooks and Vicky, didn't she she? Okay,
50:43
well, okay, but that I think we can say are extenuating circumstances,
50:47
considering that there was cancer involved in a lot of unanswered cancer. Right,
50:52
yeah, I'm sorry, right, alleged cancer. Well here's my thing,
50:59
Like I just say, she hasn't ever gone after Shane. She hasn't ever
51:02
gone after Eddie. She hasn't ever gone after she has said some things about
51:07
Travis, I think, right, but she yeah, well she she yes,
51:15
yes and no, but no. And then the other thing is remember
51:20
those rumors that were swirling around about Gina, like early in the in the
51:24
spring I believe of this year that were like Travis's kids told their mother that
51:32
Gina gets drunk, and then some and then somebody fell down the stairs.
51:37
That like Gina fell down the stairs or Travis push her down the stairs.
51:42
Some really insane story came out and that is not seen the light of day
51:49
on this scene. Yeah. Well, this season was filmed so weirdly long.
51:54
I don't like long time. Yeah, but I also think, like
52:00
what Gina is sober now? So maybe I think she's still sober. Uh,
52:06
But I yes, I do remember that. I remember that happening.
52:10
But I will say, like Shannon, maybe going hard after people's relationships are
52:16
not like she does go after how people parent, and that is like not
52:22
that is off limits and she does it all right. Well that's a good
52:27
point. Okay, Yeah, I mean I guess where you take away one
52:30
thing, they make up for another. Areas of stirring it up and shading
52:35
this. But I guess my point is that you know, Shannon's relationships are
52:39
always under the attack, always under the attack from day fucking one. So
52:46
she says, set them out there for that, don't you think. I
52:51
don't put it on anyone but Shannon. She's the one that makes it her
52:52
story. She talks to everybody about it. I know. But she also
52:57
thinks that these people are really her friends where they can keep secrets, and
53:00
then they don't. But there's a camera crew when she's sitting there like telling
53:05
Tamara, I don't want to get into everything. Here's the list just in
53:08
this past. Now, I know, I know you're right. No,
53:10
I know, I know, I know, I know. I think it's
53:15
it's her way of getting clothes. It's her way. I think she wants
53:19
to be vulnerable to certain people on the show, Tamara being one. Vicky
53:23
was that person too, and her way of being vulnerable is to disclose her
53:29
marital or relationship. Yes, yes, yes, now the I think the
53:35
hard thing for me right now is like this episode I've never seen, like
53:37
when they were at that pumpkin patch, the nameless faceless pump pumpkin patch.
53:42
It looked amazing, and we have to know. I want to go.
53:45
I want to go do that. I want to do that. But like
53:47
she showed up and I was worried, Like her neck was red at some
53:54
point she was like, I'm having that feeling, and then I had the
53:58
other day that pain. I was getting concerned. I'm worried about her health.
54:01
And she just always seems underwater, you know, like even though Gina
54:07
is under fire, she's still got it together. You know, even though
54:10
Jen is like has this tumultuous She's like, I'm showing up for yoga and
54:15
like doing my thing. Like everyone seems to have it together. Shannon seems
54:20
like she's so flustered constantly that I'm getting very concerned. And I think a
54:25
lot of it has to do with the drinking, you know, obviously,
54:29
I mean this whole thing about I never said that about CPS. I would
54:35
never What are you talking about? And then the flashback of the CPS.
54:37
I mean, it's just like the most comical thing you've ever seen. And
54:42
again, if Gina had done that to her, had even just a tiny
54:46
bit implied that Shannon had done something that was not great at parenting, oh
54:53
my god, like it would have been World War three. Well, I
54:59
did appreciate Emily saying like it wouldn't have been she wouldn't have been taken to
55:04
jail. It was a bench warrant, things like that her you know,
55:07
I mean it was the lugger with law. Yeah, that was important to
55:13
say, but god it But like if Emily hadn't been there, it would
55:22
have Shannon would have created this whole spectacle of either rumors she thinks she heard
55:30
or hearsay. And if it weren't for Emily, like that thing would have
55:36
spiraled off the tracks really quick. It would needed Emily to be like this
55:39
total authority in that situation. And it's a good thing. Jen is very
55:45
soft spoken because she was like I was there too, Hello, Hello,
55:51
and and Gina's like, I am so comfy you was dog because shen' it
55:55
is what you do. And she totally nailed it, like this is what
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he does. She says something when she's drinking and she doesn't remember, and
56:05
that is wild. It is really scary to see that. You know,
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you can't see that. I believe Shannon that she doesn't remember saying it all
56:12
too And then Tamra being like, I don't I don't know if that's just
56:16
like cut in his clothes, and like, I don't know if she said
56:19
CPS. And then Taylor's like, I have no recollection. Well, Taylor
56:23
was fucking three sheets to the wind too, I mean getting squirt in the
56:27
mouth, you know, by mister noodles or whatever. I just it was
56:32
chaos, ensuing. But also Tamara knew exactly. I do think Tamara recalled
56:38
everything. Oh yeah, I know, the respects of that and her talking
56:43
about it after the bag, so Tamara totally knows what's going on. I
56:46
don't know. They were all really wasted, they were really I think she
56:51
could have selectively chosen to say I don't remember, just so she could have
56:55
Shannon's back, because it's Tara. You know, she gets a with murder.
57:00
I mean, she stirs it up and she's she sets the gasoline and
57:05
she walks away, which makes her a great housewife. And then Shannon knows
57:07
no better, and you know that. Yeah, everybody's afraid of Tamra.
57:12
Everyone's afraid of Tamora because they don't want to be on the other end of
57:15
her drunk screaming about their shit. Because she will. Oh my god,
57:24
but what about Shannon's arm? It was like all swollen? What the hell
57:30
is going on? She does all that like uh listen doctor moon stuff.
57:37
Yeah. I mean she said in the in a not but never before seen
57:44
clip that she's going to a therapist. I don't know if it's the same
57:46
therapist that Jen and Ryan went to where they just scream like tones at you.
57:53
But I really do hope Shannon's going to an actual therapist, right,
57:58
because she really does. I'm not I'm not against all like alternative medicine,
58:02
but I also think, like, do regular medicine too, Yes, I
58:08
think a functional medicine aspect as well as a professional medical Yes, the combination
58:15
of those two are great. Yeah. I don't know if Shannon's doing all
58:20
that, but I agree that the number one factor is alcohol, right right,
58:25
I say it every time. I don't know how they drink like that.
58:29
I absolutely couldn't. I mean done for Shannon was like, God,
58:35
strike me dead. That's when I know I didn't say something. I'm like,
58:37
oh my god, please don't say that. Yep. I mean people
58:45
need to start. Well, I was just gonna say people need to start
58:47
videotaping, Shannon, but it is videotaped. I mean she will see she's
58:52
seen the footage, Like, what is she gonna say now, She's going
58:54
to be very sorry for sure. Yeah. And then Gina really freaks out
59:00
and is like, it's not true. Nobody gets a DUI and their kids
59:04
are taken. Well, it wasn't that. It was that you missed the
59:07
hearing, and so there was a warrant out, so it wasn't just a
59:10
DUI. So when she says that there was a warrant out and she could
59:15
have been arrested, and the lawyer actually did tell Gina in that scene that
59:21
the cops were going to arrest you this morning. Did he not say that?
59:24
The lawyer said that. So when she was like, that's not true.
59:29
Nobody gets it. That's also not true what she's saying. The facts
59:32
were that she got a dui. She actually did. She missed her hearing,
59:36
not her fault, her crackhead lawyer's fault allegedly, Oh my god.
59:40
And then her the lawyer that came in, the better lawyer, was like,
59:45
everything's fine, but they the cops were going to come arrest you,
59:49
Like, isn't we all saw that. So when that happens, Oh shit,
59:53
I think I lost Emily came about a second. Are you there?
1:00:04
I can't hear you. Wait, hold on, it's muted. Hold on,
1:00:07
I got a plusure. Okay, okay, we got Emily Beck.
1:00:10
I was just I was just ranting about, like we did all see that
1:00:14
lawyer of hers say the cops were going to arrest you this morning. We
1:00:20
saw that, So did something change that we don't know about. What Gina
1:00:24
is defending is the CPS comment? Okay, yes, and then that she
1:00:30
was going to lose custody. And to Emily's point, that would not cause
1:00:35
you to lose custody. That's what Emily was saying, right, DUI is
1:00:39
not going to make you, is it d UI or d either way?
1:00:44
She was just saying, yeah. Also, we had talked about this a
1:00:46
couple of weeks ago, that they wouldn't have gone to CPS. They would
1:00:52
have called her husband ex husband, and they would have gone to her him
1:00:58
or family member. They can make the arrangements, you know, so they
1:01:01
wouldn't have gone to CPS in that situation. If you have family and people
1:01:05
who are around to take care of your kids, so you know again it's
1:01:08
a false statement, and I understand that the worst case scenario, I don't
1:01:13
know, might potentially be that if there were no other options, but like,
1:01:17
it is a reckless thing to say, and my god, it's a
1:01:21
terrifying thing for a mother to hear. And they all just cringe being mothers
1:01:25
hearing that. You know, Also, Gina has corrected the problem because to
1:01:34
my knowledge, she's sober. So like that to me, is I mean,
1:01:39
I get what we're saying, Like what happened in that moment? Fine,
1:01:45
is Shannon right? But at the same time, I'm like, it's
1:01:47
not like Gina's still continuing that behavior and right, I don't know, And
1:01:53
let's not hold her to it anymore and bring that up. And I think
1:01:57
Shannon's point being like, I'm only allowed I'm not allowed to I can't that
1:02:00
I didn't do anything good for you. But that's not what she said.
1:02:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So let's talk about Heather's Heather
1:02:10
and then we can wrap. But these photo this this was weird because we
1:02:15
really didn't get into Heather's relationship and the rumors if why she staged these photos
1:02:22
of her Disneyland that she and Terry did more. More offensive than that is
1:02:29
her saying I don't want to look like a person from Pennsylvania. I was
1:02:32
like, oh, I think she meant Mormon, you know, Amish or
1:02:39
Mennonite. Yes, Mennonite or Amish. Yeah, yeah, not Mormon.
1:02:43
What am I I'm so I've got I've got the m in my head.
1:02:46
But yes, that's right. Yeah, so well look too. In in
1:02:53
her defense, mennonit's nor Amish were watching, so they won't be offended because
1:03:00
they don't watch television. But that's not what she said. She said the
1:03:04
entire state of Pennsylvania. So I have not looked to see how much people
1:03:08
went in on her. Yeah, that's that's the that's the part of Heather
1:03:14
that just doesn't get it. Yeah. Yeah, So what's up with these
1:03:19
paps photos? And what were the rumors about she and Terry not doing well?
1:03:23
Because that got by me he was having an affair? Was that what
1:03:29
it was? Yeah? Okay, and I guess I'm kind of like,
1:03:32
uh, I don't know, I don't know. I just didn't care.
1:03:38
And then I was confused that they were taken in Orange County or Anaheim at
1:03:43
Disneyland, like I didn't get that. I didn't get the feeling that they
1:03:45
were taking at Disneyland. Oh somebody said something, I mean Tamra said that.
1:03:51
But like when I saw the photos, I was like, they didn't
1:03:54
look Disney Well they you know how like when you're at disney World or Disneyland,
1:03:59
they have photographers walking around and you can order the pictures. That's what
1:04:01
I felt. I was like, Okay, they're not gonna take a cannon.
1:04:04
They're like, all right, you stand here, put your hand out.
1:04:08
We're gonna superimpose a little Mickey Mouse on your fucking hand. That's what
1:04:11
they do. Well, I'm sure if it was Terry and Heather in a
1:04:15
private day, you know, like when they get your I'm sure they would
1:04:20
do whatever they wanted them. They would take a picture of whatever. But
1:04:24
I'm also like, I just was like, I know Tamor wanted this to
1:04:29
be a thing, and I think I just didn't. I wasn't that invested
1:04:33
in it. I just didn't. Heather and Terry always read as though they're
1:04:38
calling paparazzi to be so it's like, what's yeah, this is on brand
1:04:43
for them, but it you know, it's definitely holding how their'ses feet to
1:04:46
the fire and like you know you're you're staging this, so come clean,
1:04:50
like this is not authentic. Well yeah, and to that end, the
1:04:57
way Heatheryre deflected was very good because I mean professional, which makes you not
1:05:01
want to believe her in any other situations because it is so good because he
1:05:05
is true. It looked very staged, but Heather is again at the core
1:05:12
why we watched the show. She is the old like in terms of when
1:05:15
you think about og Orange County behind the gates, Heather is living that fifty
1:05:20
five million dollar house life that we want to see behind the gates, right
1:05:26
And so, I mean, the most authentic moment we have gotten from Heather
1:05:30
this season is her revealing to say, I thought you were to say something
1:05:38
else for real, and I was just kidding. No, no, I
1:05:41
swear because if you watch her eyes and her face and her whole thing,
1:05:45
it's really that felt real. It did so put that up against everything else.
1:05:49
I'm not saying she's not a good, uh and sincere person, but
1:05:54
like her passion really came to light when truth sure did two talk should Talk
1:06:01
the twenty ten and I liked it. I liked it. It's why Yeah,
1:06:05
I still want to see that lifestyle. I mean that's why of that
1:06:10
course. Absolutely yeah. So I listen, everyone brings something different to the
1:06:15
show, and it's funny because they all want to hold each other's feet to
1:06:20
the fire. If I'm doing this, then this other person has to do
1:06:23
that. If I'm like Shannon said, if we're going to talk about my
1:06:27
relationship, why don't we talk about her relationship? I mean, much like
1:06:30
Erica Jane that one season She's like, I'm gonna talg about my relationship,
1:06:32
I'm gonna dig about any money. It just was like, is this what
1:06:38
we're doing? Because but everybody brings something different, and that's how you make
1:06:42
a good rounded cast. So you do what you're gonna do, and every
1:06:45
and and and on my last note, I will say Jen's feather collar confessional
1:06:50
is concerning. You don't like it? I like it for I like it
1:06:56
for something else, not for confessional doesn't work. It's two costume me and
1:07:00
it's not like it doesn't show me. We do a poll. Does Patreon
1:07:05
do poles? We should do a poll. It does do poles, Let's
1:07:09
do it. I will do that. Okay, good Patreon poll for the
1:07:13
now separately for something else, yes, like maybe a night out or a
1:07:18
party. I didn't like her. It just doesn't seem like her. It's
1:07:21
giving. It's a little two forced. It looks like she had the outfit
1:07:27
underneath and she got that from Amazon and was like, I'll pop this right
1:07:30
on. This gives it a little something. I'm sorry, but her arms
1:07:32
look great. See, I don't. I didn't. I just thought it
1:07:36
was an interesting choice for her and sort of like it was like a cool
1:07:43
move for her. And I don't mind it. I like it. I
1:07:45
think she was trying to do something there. But that's what I have a
1:07:47
problem with. I just okay, there's a little too forced for me.
1:07:51
But see, like compared to other people, especially in the OC, like
1:07:57
that was pretty risky for her, for anyone, for anyone. But that's
1:08:01
what I don't like about it, because it's like trying to be something that
1:08:05
you're not. You're trying to be something that you're not. I don't like
1:08:09
that. I think sometimes you have to dress for the part that you wish
1:08:14
you could play, and you're dressing for your black swan. Al Right,
1:08:23
Well, that was a fun recap. Tomorrow, Speaking of fashion, we
1:08:28
are down to the final four on Project Runway. Excited to talk about that
1:08:31
with Angela Quintana and then we're back next week. Emily, thanks so much.
1:08:35
That was super fun. Yeah, thank you, Thank you byye guys.
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