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Week In Review: Brock Purdy’s MVP Case, Seahawks Stunned & Are the Raiders For Real? | Richard Sherman Podcast · The Richard Sherman Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of chaos early in this season. It's
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: almost like these first three weeks have been a bona
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: fide preseason because I don't know who's good, who's decent,
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: who's lousy. You know, we thought the Seattle Seahawks were
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: a juggernaut. Then they go on the road, lose to
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  Speaker 1: the commanders. The Raiders are 3-0. Richard, wild, wild storylines
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: developing the NFL through three weeks. Let's start with your
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers who improved to 3-0 at home against
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: A bit of a shootout here.
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  Speaker 1: 36-30 final. The San Francisco 49ers proved to be victorious. Richard,
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  Speaker 1: what stood out to you in this game with the
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers coming out on top against the Arizona Cardinals?
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: It's got to be Brock Purdy to start. Had another
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  Speaker 2: fantastic game. I mean, not fantastic by his standards because
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he would want his completion percentage to be higher.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: He was closer to 50% today. He was 15-27, but
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  Speaker 2: for 297 yards, four touchdowns, 133.8 passer rating. He had
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  Speaker 2: two runs for 34 yards. George Kittle. George Kittle had
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  Speaker 2: a fantastic day. He was distributing the ball to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: He was getting it. Jordan Watkins. Jordan Watkins was a
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  Speaker 2: great story of this game. a guy that had a conversation,
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  Speaker 2: a real candid conversation with Kyle Shanahan, wanting to get
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  Speaker 2: more time, trying to figure out how to get on
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  Speaker 2: the field and make an impact. He felt like he
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  Speaker 2: should be in the lineup based on what he's done
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  Speaker 2: on offense, but Kyle Shanahan let him know that fourth
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  Speaker 2: and fifth receiver spot, it's about special teams, and right
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: now you're not doing enough on special teams. But after
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  Speaker 2: a number of injuries, he finally got an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: He had two catches for 60 yards, a really huge
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  Speaker 2: catch in this game. Mike Evans continues to be consistent,
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  Speaker 2: but a concern in this game. Goes out with a
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: rib injury, doesn't return in this game, so we got
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what that is. Trenton Williams goes out.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: The injuries, again, starting to mount. Nicholas John Bosa gets
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: injured before this game even starts. Earlier in the week
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  Speaker 2: has a calf injury, and they are running out of
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  Speaker 2: IR spots to bring back, so they're going to keep
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  Speaker 2: him on the active roster. And that weakens the team
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  Speaker 2: in some regards because it's a spot that you can't feel,
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  Speaker 2: a spot that won't be used. So then it puts
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  Speaker 2: more reps on other guys. It puts guys in tougher positions,
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  Speaker 2: makes you lighter. The options lighter on game day of
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  Speaker 2: who you can pick from. But his team still looks fantastic,
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: at least offensively. They had a great game. Christian McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 2: 15 carries, 75 yards, a touchdown, four receptions, 41 yards,
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  Speaker 2: continues to be a great A great scorer. Eddie Panero
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: hits a 57-yarder in this game. Has some odd misses
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  Speaker 2: on some PATs, but he's been under the weather, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get that figured out. But the defense,
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  Speaker 2: two sacks in a game. Fred Warner looked great, but
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Drake Greenlaw goes out with a quad injury. Another injury.
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  Speaker 2: Diamador Lenore gets a little banged up. Some friendly fire.
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  Speaker 2: But Marquise Siegel. Marquise Siegel is another story line. that
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  Speaker 2: we got to talk about a guy who made some
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  Speaker 2: plays in this game, had some PBUs, but just seems
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  Speaker 2: to be ascending, seems to be figuring it out. A
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  Speaker 2: guy that last year had some really good moments, but
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: then struggled a bit to the point where they had
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  Speaker 2: to replace him. This year, it looks like he's taking
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  Speaker 2: another step forward. That's been great to see. San Francisco
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: 49ers look good. Jacoby Brissett threw it 52 times today
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  Speaker 2: for only 280 yards. That's a good game for defense.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: If a quarterback throws it 52 times, only has 280 yards,
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  Speaker 2: they were playing some great coverage, a lot of checkdowns,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of easy completions, 11 receptions for Michael Wilson
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  Speaker 2: on 17 targets for only 89 yards. For a defense to,
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: you know, a guy to get targeted that many times,
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  Speaker 2: you get targeted 17 times and you don't have 100 yards,
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  Speaker 2: that means the defense did a great job. So I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they did a good job. The run game
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  Speaker 2: is something they're going to want to clean up. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love had 21 carries for 90 yards. That's something
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  Speaker 2: they have to work on. They have to get better at.
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  Speaker 2: Special teams-wise, they had the muffed punt that made this
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  Speaker 2: game a lot closer than it had to be, helped
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  Speaker 2: Arizona make this a game late in the game. So obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco 49ers know what they have to do
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  Speaker 2: in that regard, but Trent Williams going out of this game,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Evans going out of this game, it's allowing other
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  Speaker 2: guys to step up. But You just hate to keep
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: seeing it year after year after year with really no explanation.
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  Speaker 2: And I know everybody's like, oh, man, it's the power plant.
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  Speaker 2: It's the substation and all that. But, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to argue it right now because it just keeps happening.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to talk about that play, that hook
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  Speaker 2: and ladder, Mitchell. Did you see that play? Did you
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  Speaker 2: both see it? Of course I did, Rude.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Richard Debo Samuel is just back in his natural habitat
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  Speaker 1: with the San Francisco 49ers and to see that creativity
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate to him to get involved
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  Speaker 1: it looks like the Debo of old what a weapon
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  Speaker 1: I don't know could you did you imagine this when
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  Speaker 1: they re-signed him he would have this much of an
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  Speaker 1: impact on the offense immediately like he is in these
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  Speaker 1: first three games uh you.
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  Speaker 2: You hope for that you hope that It goes back
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  Speaker 2: to the old ways. You know, everything kind of goes
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  Speaker 2: back in place, but you really never know. It's been
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  Speaker 2: a fantastic, probably a fairytale start for this season for
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  Speaker 2: Debo Samuel, for Kyle Shanahan. Offense is scoring a lot
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  Speaker 2: of points. It looks like they're having fun for them
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  Speaker 2: to run a hook and ladder that early in the
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  Speaker 2: game and for it to work to perfection. I think
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  Speaker 2: the last one, I mean, I know there's been a
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  Speaker 2: couple in the NFL with teams trying it, but I
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  Speaker 2: think the last one I remember working that, well, Boise State.
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  Speaker 2: Boise State in a Fiesta Bowl years ago. Mitchell, that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the more iconic hook and ladders that I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen. But this one has to be right up there.
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  Speaker 2: And they released the tight end to block the corner.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a marvelous play design, marvelous setup,
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  Speaker 2: and marvelous execution. The San Francisco 49ers look fantastic. Brock
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  Speaker 2: Purdy improved, probably improved. He's probably got the best odds
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  Speaker 2: for MVP in the league at this point because of
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  Speaker 2: the game Josh Allen just had. He struggled mightily. versus
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  Speaker 2: the LA Chargers defense. Five turnovers for that offense on
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  Speaker 2: the day. We'll get to that game and talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: But Brock Purdy, right now, probably the league lead for
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  Speaker 2: the MVP. And he deserves it. And he deserves it.
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  Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan feels good. They got a really
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: tough game coming up against Denver next week. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to seeing how they compete against that defense, what
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  Speaker 2: they can do against that offense. This is a good team, Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good team. And with the Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: losing to the Commanders, they're number one in the division.
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  Speaker 2: What you going to do? What are you going to do,
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco?
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the number one team on your power ranks.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: They take on the Denver Broncos in San Francisco. The
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  Speaker 1: 49ers against the Denver Broncos. Richard Polly Market gives the
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  Speaker 1: Niners a 57% chance to win this game. Denver looked
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: good on Sunday night. I mean, some would call it
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: an officiating win, a phantom P.I. call towards the end
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  Speaker 1: of that game, but that defense kept them in it.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams were hot early, up 16 to nothing, and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately Matt Stafford throws a big-time pick six to let
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos take the lead and take control of
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  Speaker 1: that game. The Broncos head into San Francisco, a team
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  Speaker 1: that you obviously love, 3-0. What does the San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: 49ers have to do to come out with a victory
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  Speaker 1: in this game? They have to play mistake-free football. They
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: have to run the ball. They have to do what
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  Speaker 1: they've done all season, which is score the football. They're
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  Speaker 1: second in the league in scoring 32 points a game
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  Speaker 1: and third in points allowed.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the way they have to play. But that
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: starts with running the football, allowing their defense to rest,
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  Speaker 2: getting chunk plays when they're there. And I think Brock
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  Speaker 2: Purdy has done that as well as anybody this season
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  Speaker 2: is just taking what the defense gives him. If it's
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  Speaker 2: an explosive play, he goes, he finds it. If it's not,
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  Speaker 2: if it's a check down, he's going to take four
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  Speaker 2: or five and he's going to keep the ball moving
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  Speaker 2: down the field. They got to continue to run the
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  Speaker 2: ball at a decent rate. I think they're looking for more.
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  Speaker 2: And Kyle Shanahan would tell you he's disappointed in the
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  Speaker 2: run game and he expects more. I think their offensive line, again,
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  Speaker 2: as As much as I was tough on this offensive
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  Speaker 2: line for the San Francisco 49ers, especially the interior offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: they deserve a ton of credit. They have kept Brock
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  Speaker 2: Purdy clean. He has yet to be sacked this season.
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  Speaker 2: So I expect that to continue. Some of it has
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  Speaker 2: to do with his mobility. Some of it has to
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  Speaker 2: do with them doing a great job protecting him. He
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  Speaker 2: has to continue that. Who are they going to have
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  Speaker 2: at receiver? That's a big question. Who's going to be available?
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: Is Cooks going to be available this week? Is he
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  Speaker 2: going to line up? Is he going to be out there?
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  Speaker 2: Is he going to get up to speed fast enough
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  Speaker 2: to be available to be put out there? Are they
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  Speaker 2: going to use more tight ends? Are they going to
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: use more Kyle Hughes, Shaq, George Kittle, those guys in
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  Speaker 2: the past game? Can we see some two running back
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  Speaker 2: sets with Kalon Black and Christian McCaffrey on the field
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  Speaker 2: at the same time? I don't know. Kyle Shanahan is
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  Speaker 2: one of the more creative minds in the National Football League.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: I know it's going to be fun. On the other side,
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Is Drake Greenlaw going to be healthy this week, or
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: do they sit him another week and rest? Because, again,
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  Speaker 2: that changes the dynamic in a big way on that defense.
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  Speaker 2: He is a big-time factor, a big-time just attitude, Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: He's a tone setter out there, and when you don't
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  Speaker 2: see him, when he's not out there, you can feel it,
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: and it's different. So hopefully he can play, but just
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  Speaker 2: like Polly Market, I got the San Francisco 49ers winning
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  Speaker 2: this game. They're signing Matthew Judon to practice squad. He's
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: a guy, year 11. veteran, four-time pro bowler. He can
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: get some juice, maybe give them some juice, some pass
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  Speaker 2: rush juice. They're not running a super complex game up front,
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  Speaker 2: so he should be able to get up to speed
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  Speaker 2: pretty fast, and we'll see if he can help them
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  Speaker 2: put some more pressure on the quarterback because they have
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: had trouble doing that, and they're definitely going to need
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: it against Bo Nix.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: This will be a great test for the Niners. There's
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: no question about it. The Denver Broncos, again, come off
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: a big win. A lot of folks expected them to
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: lose against the Rams. They proved that they're still one
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  Speaker 1: of those contenders in the AFC with that victory.
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  Speaker 2: If they go and.
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  Speaker 1: Knock out the San Francisco 49ers on.
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  Speaker 2: The road, look up.
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  Speaker 1: They will be climbing up your power ranks and certainly
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: into mine as well. Let's talk a little bit about Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this was the stunner of the weekend. Obviously,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: we saw Green Bay get destroyed on Thursday Night Football,
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  Speaker 1: but If you would have told me Seattle was going
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: to go on the road to the Commanders and take
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  Speaker 1: an L with Marcus Mariota at the helm for the Commanders,
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  Speaker 1: I would be absolutely in disbelief. And I am in
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  Speaker 1: disbelief right now, having watched that game. Obviously, Sam Darnold,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: coming back from injury, looked a little rusty in that
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  Speaker 1: first half.
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  Speaker 2: He threw two interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: But when the going got tough, he started giving the
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  Speaker 1: ball to his main man, JSN, and they got back
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  Speaker 1: into this game and looked like.
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  Speaker 2: They had life.
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  Speaker 1: Richard, this Seattle Seahawks team has looked so dominant over
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  Speaker 1: the last calendar year. What gives with this game? How
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: does this happen?
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the early turnovers. It was a rainy game,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: and there's no excuse. The rookie, Jadarian Price, fumbles the ball,
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  Speaker 2: first drive of the game, puts the Commanders in it,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: and sometimes a team in the National Football League, you
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: give them life early. You start to make them, allow
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: them to believe they have a chance to win, and
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: they never lost that momentum. The Washington Commanders coached by
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, were well-prepared in this game. They played really
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: well early on. You got to give Marcus Mariota a
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  Speaker 2: ton of credit. He came into this game well-prepared. He
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  Speaker 2: executed the plan. He was 19 of 31, 183 yards
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  Speaker 2: and three touchdowns versus a very, very formidable Seattle Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 2: And he made them look bad. I mean, he made
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  Speaker 2: them look bad. No ifs, ands, and buts about it.
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  Speaker 2: They were giving up eight and a half points per
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  Speaker 2: game coming into this game. They gave up 33. And
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  Speaker 2: this is the most the commanders have scored this season.
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  Speaker 2: And this is with Jaden Daniels playing in the other game.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously this gives Mike McDonald a coaching, you know,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: some coaching points, some things to point out. And it
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: humbles this defense a little bit. Probably get some hungrier
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: throughout the season. Sometimes you need that. Sometimes you get
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: punched in the mouth and you got to understand that, hey,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: You can't just float into games and expect it to
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: just go well. You got to make enough plays. Obviously,
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Julian Love was out of this game, and they had
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: to play Finley, and Finley had his struggles. They attacked
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  Speaker 2: him multiple times in the red zone, and, you know,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: they were able to make some plays. They were attacking
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the field, I think, a lot more
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  Speaker 2: than they would have if Julian Love would have played.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Nick Ammon-Warry got in this game, but he went out
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  Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury. But If you had told me
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  Speaker 2: that Sam Donald was going to throw for 374 yards
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  Speaker 2: and four touchdowns, I would have expected them to win
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  Speaker 2: this game. If you told me Jackson Smith and Chigba
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  Speaker 2: was going to have 10 catches for 128 yards and
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  Speaker 2: two touchdowns, I would have thought they were going to
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  Speaker 2: win this game. If you would have told me Cooper Cup,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: four catches, 46 yards, and a touchdown, it sounds like
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: the offense did what they needed to do. But it's
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: the turnovers. You had three turnovers in this game. Critical.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Critical turnovers. and the defense didn't make enough plays on
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: the other side. I don't think they made enough plays,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: and if you look at the game, if you watch
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the game, they never looked like they were in command.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: The offense got going in a great way in the
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  Speaker 2: second half, but those turnovers, unexpected things, just unexpected, uncharacteristic
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  Speaker 2: turnovers that you just can't have, and obviously you expected
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: some rust for Sam Darnold, but you can't depend on
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  Speaker 2: him like this. The run game has to get going,
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: and they have no semblance of a run game right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's their biggest issue, and I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this before last season, and people are like, oh,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: it's okay, they'll figure it out. And last season, Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker figured it out throughout the playoffs, and that is
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: what propelled them to the Super Bowl. They're going to
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: have to figure this run game out. They set Jadarian
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Price for, I think, almost a quarter and a half,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: two quarters after he fumbled the football for good reason.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: You can't fumble the football in the National Football League.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: and he's had two fumbles already in his career. It's
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: only been three games into his career in the National
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Football League. That's not a good thing. When you start
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to have that reputation, guys are going to go harder
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: to try to pull the ball out, try to punch
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: the ball out. They're going to attack the football more
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: until he shows that he can secure it, until he
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: shows that he can be safer with the football. So
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: that's my biggest concern right now for the Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: is the run game. The run game has to get going. Um,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I thought, I think anytime you have Sam Donald throwing
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  Speaker 2: it 45 times, that's not the way that Mike McDonald
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: wants to play. Obviously he doesn't want his defense giving
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: up 33 points. I guarantee you Mike McDonald expected, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if this offense scores 31 points, we win that game. So, um,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: it's kind of back to the drawing board with some things, uh,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: trying to get some things corrected because the way the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Washington commanders attack this secondary is attack this defense is sustainable. It's,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: it's a way that other teams will attack it. And
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: so you have to get these things corrected really quickly,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: or it could start spiraling. You hope that, uh, that
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Nick M and worry and, and Julian love get healed
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  Speaker 2: up really quickly because they are very pivotal, critical parts
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  Speaker 2: of his defense. No doubt.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And Richard, not to beat a dead horse, but I mean,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I highlighted this coming into the season. I was concerned
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: about this run game and what the loss of Kenneth
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Walker would do to this offense. And today we saw
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: just that. Without Kenneth Walker, without a reliable veteran in
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: that backfield, questions start to arise. 18 carries for 44 yards.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that's used to pounding
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the rock ever since the Marshawn Lynch era, since the
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Sean Alexander era. You know, they don't have that bell
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  Speaker 1: cow right now. And that's my one concern point with
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks team. I don't want it to become
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: their Achilles heel. So they got to fix something here.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Is Zach Charbonnet going to be able to give him
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: some relief at the midway point of the season? Maybe
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: he's someone that will help. But to your point, Jadarian
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Price being a rookie and having fumbling issues out of
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the gates, what does that do to this guy's confidence?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Those are major question marks going forward. Do I think
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Seattle's out of the spotlight?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I think they're still one of the top five teams
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: in this league. They've got a defense that just showed
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: up and didn't play their A game. And got beat.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, bottom line. I don't know how difficult it is, Richard,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: in your time playing football, but we see it time
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and time again. And I know you've talked about it previously.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it for a team that is based
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: on the West Coast to go to the East Coast
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and play that one o'clock hour game? How big of
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: a role does that play with just your natural instincts
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and sleep patterns?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Is that a big issue? Well, I wouldn't say it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: a big issue. It's something to consider. It's something to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: think about. But you've got to also understand that Mike
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: McDonald teams were, over the last, what, 18 road games,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: they were 16-2. So it's not like they've played games
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: at this point before. They prepared the same way. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they're human. You know, sometimes you just have a bad day.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you have a bad time. Sometimes you're not playing
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: well and they didn't play well. And the Washington Commanders
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: had their numbers. This is the pros. The other team
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: gets paid too. And the Washington Commanders went out there
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and executed their game plan. They played inspired football. And
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: they deserved the win. You looked at Terry McLaurin made
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: huge plays in this game. You looked at the play
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in the end zone. Incredible plays. I thought there were
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: some really questionable calls. I thought one of those unnecessary
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: roughnesses on a very critical third down where they got
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the football. Finley hit Terry McLaurin and pulled the ball out.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And they gave him the first down because they said
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: it was unnecessary roughness. And Terry McLaurin drops the crown
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: of his helmet and puts it into Finley's chest. And Finley,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a bang-bang play. There was nothing... I
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: don't think there was nothing intentionally, demonstratively wrong with the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: way Finley attacked it. It's just one of those plays.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And I think it's one of those plays where if
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you look at it and the league looks at it carefully,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you might see Terry McLaurin get fined on that play
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: for crowning the helmet. And so... it's really frustrating to
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: see plays like that really have such a tremendous impact
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: on the game because you're like, if Seattle gets that stop,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: they're off the field. It was, I think it was
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: third and 13 and it's now it's automatic first down
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: on a, on a call that the defender literally couldn't
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: do anything about it. He runs over there, puts his
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: chest on there, knocks the ball out. Everybody's standing up
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: at the end. It's not like Terry McLaurin's knocked out or, or,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: or concussed or anything like that. It, It just seemed
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: like a football play that didn't need to be called,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and it had a big impact on the game.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: One little note before we leave this game here. They're
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: already starting conversations in Seattle. Mike McDonald has confirmed that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnet might be back at practice next week, starting
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: his window to return. Richard, how big of a boost
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: do you think Zach Charbonnet would be to this offense?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: It'll be somewhat of a boost, but it's not just...
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, they're not opening the holes. You know, there's
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: fundamental problems in the run game. And obviously, Brian Fleury
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: is going to do it. he can to get them solved.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald is going to ask the questions and make
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: sure they get solved because you're going to need to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: run the football. They play the L.A. Chargers next week,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and that defense hasn't been the greatest, but it's really talented.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And if you watch how they played against the Buffalo
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Bills this week, five turnovers, they cause five turnovers, they
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: can cause problems, they can cause chaos, and they can
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: be very opportunistic, and so you have to be able
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to run the football, you have to be able to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: shave some time off the clock, you know what the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: best defense in the National Football League is? It's time, Mitchell,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it's a run game, it's, hey, we are not on
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the field very often, if you're on the field 25 minutes, Mitchell, you're,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you're They have a higher propensity to play great defense.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you that because you're not on the field
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: as long. And when you're on the field, 35 minutes,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: 36 minutes, 32 minutes, it's going to lead to more
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: yards and more mistakes. You're out there longer. They're getting
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: more possessions. They're getting more drives. They're running more plays.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And so that was a bit of an imbalance in
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: this game. And again, I don't want to take anything
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: away from the Washington Commanders because they went out there
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: and executed. They earned this win. This wasn't any any
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: luck of the draw or, hey, man, the ball bounced
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: this way or, man, they got, you know, they thoroughly
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: outplayed the Seattle Seahawks and they earned this win. So
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: give them a tremendous amount of credit. I look for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks to bounce back next week, but we're
• 21:12
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• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. They take on the 0-3 L.A.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Chargers.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And you went into detail last podcast, Richard, about what
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is wrong in L.A. And it starts with Justin Herbert.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Enter L.A. into Seattle. 0-3, potentially 0-4. And now you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: dealing with a Seattle team that's fresh off a loss.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You know they're going to be very hungry. How do
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you see this game playing out in Seattle on Sunday, Richard?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I see it very similar to what Polly Market
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: has it at. The Seattle Seahawks winning this one in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a very convincing fashion. The offensive line for the L.A.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Chargers has been abysmal all season, and I don't expect
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that to change anytime soon, even their good players. Joe
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Ault is leading the league in penalties. Rashawn Slater has
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: not won at the rate that we have come to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: expect from a guy of his caliber. I think he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: has a 76% win rate. Right now in the season,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: which is very low of the 66 tackles in the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: National Football League, I think it's like 52 or 55,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and that's not good enough. And obviously we put a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure and a lot of blame on Justin Herbert,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: rightfully so, because you have to be able to execute. Sure,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the offensive line hasn't been great. There are other guys
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: who offensive lines aren't great. The pass catchers have to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: catch the football. That's a big part of it. The
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: pass catchers have to catch the football. When he throws
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: accurate passes, they got to hold on to it, especially
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in critical situations. I think that's been a big deterrent
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: for the L.A. Chargers, and they're going to have to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: get that fixed. But on the other side of the ball,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: their defense did a great job taking the football away
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: last week against a very good Buffalo Bills team. They
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: took it from Dalton Kincaid, forced a fumble there. They
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: took it from James Cook, forced a fumble early in
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that game, two interceptions from from Josh Allen, a forced
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: fumble on Josh Allen. So if they can play like
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that against the Seahawks team that turned the ball over
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a number of times, Jadarian Price has only three career
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: games and has fumbled in two of them. So that's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: going to be a point of emphasis. How can they
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: improve that? How can the Seattle Seahawks improve their running game?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: They have to have a better showing on the ground
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in order to open up the pass game. Sure, Sam
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Donald still is able to be effective getting the ball
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to Jackson Smith and Jigba, but where is Rashid Shaheed?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: You paid him all this money to stay. He's supposed
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to be a big factor in the offense. They're not
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: targeting him enough for me to even feel comfortable with
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the money they're paying him. Usually when you throw out money,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: they're feeding Jackson Smith and Jigba, but we're throwing a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: lot of tight end screens, and they're working. They're effective plays.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And they're slowing down the pass rush. And it's smart offense.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And Brian Fleury's doing a great job calling it. But
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you have to get your speedster involved. Are people going
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to just start ignoring him and doubling J.S. Hinn? And,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: you know, J.S. Hinn has found a way. I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the reason that he's continued to find success is Brian
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Fleury is doing a good job moving him around. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you can't get a beat at where he is. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: hard to double a player when he's in the slot
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: one play and he's outside one play and he's in
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the backfield another play and he's motioning back and forth
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the next play. It's really hard to double that guy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You can't keep swinging your safeties and checking and saying, hey,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: we're running cover two to this side. No, we're bracketing
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to that side. Oh, he's motioning. All right, move the bracket.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Things are happening too fast. So I commend Brian Fleury
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: for what he's doing offensively. But you have to get
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: your other big-time receiver involved. Cooper Cupp has been involved,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: which is great. Cooper Cupp is a big-time receiver, former
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Triple Crown winner. But Rasheed Shaheed, I mean, I can
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: understand why the Seahawks fans are complaining about seeing K-9
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: have the success that he's having in Kansas City and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: not seeing Rasheed Shaheed, who got a big-time payday, not
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: even get targeted enough to have that kind of success,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to have the kind of impact that you would expect. Now,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: do I think that K-9 would have the success that
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: he's had in Kansas City and in Seattle? No, I don't.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I don't. They're just not opening the holes right now.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: The run game just has not been as successful. and
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: maybe he would factor in, you know, obviously he's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: guy that has a ton of yards after contact and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: breaks tackles and makes a lot out of a little bit,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, you've got to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: open up some holes. And I'm sure that they're going
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to be very cautious and have a very short lease
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: with Jadarian Price if he can't hold on to the football.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: As a running back in the National Football League, that's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: one of the worst things you can have on you
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: is if you fumbled the football, you can't do it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So if they can Keep the ball safe. If they
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: can take care of the football and the Seattle Seahawks
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: can run the football, take some shots with Rasheed Shaheed,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: obviously feed Jackson Smith and Jigba. Feed my guy, A.J. Barner.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: He's been eaten. I can see them winning this game handily,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm very cautious to say that. After me saying
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: that last week against the Commanders, with all the circumstances
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and everything going against the Commanders, the Commanders found a
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: way to hang 33 points up on this team. take
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the ball away three times, including a pick six. So
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks win this game.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Richard, but the LA Chargers, there's no
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: doubt about it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's debatable.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: They got a lot of talent on that team, including
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: their quarterback, Justin Herbert, who's struggling mightily. There might be
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: no team more desperate in football than the Chargers. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks losing to Washington shocked me. Them losing
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to the Chargers would not shock me. But Seattle needs
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to come out and they need to be aggressive and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: get hot early. And back to the Rashid Shahid topic. Richard,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: his highest yardage total. He's been with the Seahawks for
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: 12 games ever since getting traded from the Saints. His
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: highest yardage total is 74 yards. Next highest from that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is 67. Next highest from that, 35, Richard. So, I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it just goes to show you and you can understand
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: why there's some frustration in the fan base when you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: pay a guy 17 million plus a year. and you
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: let a running back walk who's getting 14-5. So I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: get the internal debate. I like Seattle in this game.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: They need to find a way to get Rasheed Shahid
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: more involved and unlock that next level of this offense.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: A team that needed to bounce back after a rough
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: showing on Thursday night football against the Bills. The Detroit
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Lions come home and face an old friend, an Aaron Glenn,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the former D.C. for the Detroit Lions. This Jets team
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: is scrappy, Richard, with Geno Smith at the helm. You
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: get to see some flair again with the Jets. They
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: got some good young talent. I mean, Garrett Wilson, Kenyon Sadiq,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Brees Hall watching him. He's so shifty and crafty. You know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this Jets team is not as bad as people think.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: That being said, Detroit scared the living heck out of me.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Up 16 points in the fourth quarter. They inevitably allowed
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Geno Smith and the Jets-led offense to come back, tie
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the game up, And then Detroit has to scramble. They
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: rely on their bell cow, Jameer Gibbs, run it down
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: late and score the touchdown. And then ultimately, the guy
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we've been questioning, everyone in Detroit's been questioning, you've been questioning,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Kelvin Shepard, the DC for the Detroit Lions, dials up
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a beautiful blitz to end this game, sacking Geno, ultimately
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: leading to a turnover and fumble recovery by Jack Campbell.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Impressive stuff at the end of this game. Richard, I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: got a wild stat for you from Jared Goff. He
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: threw for 25 out of 32, 269, two touchdowns, zero interceptions,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a 122.5 passer rating. He becomes the sixth QB in
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: NFL history to start the first three games of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: season with 800 yards passing, eight passing touchdowns, no interceptions,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and a completion percentage of 70% or greater. Jared Goff
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was a story in this game. I mean, he got
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: everyone involved. He's such a consistent and reliable force in Detroit,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and he's somebody they've leaned on. How impressed were you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: with what you saw from this Detroit Lions offense today, Richard?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: They've put up 31 points in three consecutive games led
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: by Jared Goff. What stands out to you about this
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions offense? Is it enough to help them win
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the North and be competitive in the NFC?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: We got to wait and see. I think they should.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff doesn't get the credit he deserves. He's the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: best quarterback in the NFC North, and you can argue
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: with somebody else. Please, please, if you get a chance,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you're a Vikings fan. I don't
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: care if you're a Caleb Williams Bears fan. Even if
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you're a Jordan Love, Green Bay enthusiast, please go check
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: out Jared Goff's stats. and see why he's the best
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: quarterback in NFC North. And I know, I know you'll say,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: oh man, these are just inflated stats. And if he
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: did this, and if he would have had this, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I don't really care about ifs. If ifs was a fifth, Mitchell,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: we'd all be drunk. He has played at a consistently
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: high level for the Detroit Lions, even in a down year.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Last year was considered a down year for them. And
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I think he still threw for close to 4,500 yards, 30, 35,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: 36 touchdowns, only 10 or 12 interceptions. And it's a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: down year. And I think that's the part that gets overshadowed.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: He keeps this team afloat. He keeps this offense going. Obviously,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Jameer Gibbs made some incredible plays today. That touchdown run
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: where he reversed field, cut back Mitchell. There's only a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: couple guys in the league that could do that. I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: think it's him, maybe James Cook. Obviously, Bajon, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: some really special human beings that could get that done.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But he had a really fantastic game. Two touchdowns on
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the ground. eight, seven catches for 65 yards and a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: touchdown through the air. But my concern is, is this
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: kind of defense sustainable? Obviously give Kelvin Shepard a lot,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of credit because they've had their struggles in
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the secondary. And I thought they were battling today, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you've got to bring more pressure. And that's what he did.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Five sacks of Gino Smith, but Gino was also 31
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to 37 for three 21 and three touchdowns with 129.8
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: quarterback rating. So But when they needed a play, they
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: made it. And sometimes that's the kind of defense you have.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Can you battle? Can you scrap? Can you fight? Can
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you make a play when your team needs it? Can
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you get that one stop to give your offense a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: chance to win the game? And if they can play
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: defense like that, they deserve a ton of credit. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it's to be seen. They got a tough season. They're
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: in a tough division. But right now they're tied for the– no,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: they're not. Right now they're battling. They're battling. I want
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to see how they play against Chicago. I want to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: see how they play against Minnesota. And we'll see. This
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: NFC North is going to be way more competitive than
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: people think. Obviously, the Green Bay Packers look like they're
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: having a down year. There's no answers walking through that
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: door with the offensive line. They're really banged up. Jordan
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Love is under consistent pressure, so I'm not looking for
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: them to do anything. The Minnesota Vikings... are battling. They
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: look like they're a defense first team, defense and run
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the football. Kyler Murray gave them a little bit of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a spark today, but we'll see. I think Detroit is
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the most complete team, the team I trust the most
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in this division, and we'll see if they can pull
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Richard, to just highlight what you said there, I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: my main concern with this team is obviously the defensive secondary.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Their front seven, they got after the quarterback today. DJ Wonung,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: they brought him over He was formerly opposite of Danil
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Hunter with the Minnesota Vikings. You know, he had two
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sacks today. Aleem McNeil had a sack today, fresh off
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the ACL tear. He was not the same guy last year.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Great to see him back. You know, obviously, Aiden Hutchinson
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. That's all great and grand. But, Richard,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say their entire secondary, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's one guy opposite of maybe DJ
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Reed that is an above-average quarterback. player in that room
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: if Detroit really wants to get competitive and my eyes
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: as a fan they need to make a big splash
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: play maybe it's Joey Porter Jr. with the Pittsburgh Steelers
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you know if Detroit wants to get after it this
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: year and be Super Bowl contenders they need to address
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: opposite of DJ Reed it is unfair to him he's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: taking flags downfield on PIs they're basically all cards in
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: on Brian Branch coming back and being the same guy
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he was without his Achilles injury Questions are in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: air about Kirby Joseph and his long-term health.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Can he play again? We shall see.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But there's more questions than answers in this secondary for
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the Lions. That's my main concern. We'll see how they
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: handle it going forward, Richard. But that is a big
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: point of emphasis that needs to be addressed mid-season if
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the Lions want to be competitive in my eyes.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And I think the only way you do that, I mean,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Joey Porter is probably the only one who's available for
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that kind of trade. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers are
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: playing well, and they played well today, their defense has
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: been playing well, I don't think he's going to be
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: as available as you want, unless you give them an
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: offer they can't refuse. And I don't know if Detroit
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: has ever really operated in that way where they're trying
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to give a King's ransom during the season while also
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: paying the guy a ton of money. So I don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: know if I would hold my breath for that kind
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of big transaction Mitchell, but who knows, who knows the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: NFL is crazy and crazier things have happened. They were
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: able to get home. You got to give Kelvin Shepard credit.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They were able to get home when they needed to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: They put a lot of pressure on Gino. And I think, Again,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I feel great for Geno and the New York Jets.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think they played great offensively. I thought they gave
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: themselves a chance. They've been playing better defensively, and we'll
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: see if that can continue. We'll see if they can
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: string together some wins, but I don't know if you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: can put this one on Geno at all. I think
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions offense is just a great unit who's
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: going to put up points, and they're a tough unit
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to keep up with.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Richard, let's take it to the game. Let's take it
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to the Detroit Lions game because, This is a Sunday
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: night game, and it's going to be featuring two teams
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that have high-flying offenses early in the season. The Detroit
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Lions travel to the Carolina Panthers, and I think you've
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: got a little something to say about this game.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mitchell, this Carolina Panthers offense is one
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that can score the football, that can put the ball
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: in the end zone. And your Detroit Lions are also
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a team that can put the ball in the end zone.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: The problem is they don't do a great job of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: stopping anybody from putting the ball in the end zone.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And if Carolina can play as they have majority of
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: this season, they're one of the top scoring offenses in
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the National Football League. Mitchell Carolina is fifth in scoring,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: but 26th in defense. Detroit is third in scoring offense,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but 32nd in defense. It's a more even match than
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Polymarket is giving credit for. They have your Detroit Lions,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Honolulu Blue Boys, 64% chance of winning this game. Mitchell,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: this is my upset alert. I know you don't want to,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I know you don't like it. I know this isn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: going to sound great to fans in Detroit or Detroit, whatever,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because until they start playing defense, I don't know if
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I can call them Detroit, but Mitchell, this has all
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the smells of an upset. It just, ah, it smells
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: like Detroit is going to go in there and score
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: 31 points, but give up 36. Say it with, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: got Carol. Oh, shit. There it is.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I was going to tell you to say it with
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: your chest, but you just said it. Caroline, you're not wrong, Richard.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: in your breakdown, because this is something this game could
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: be in the forties. You know, this game could be
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a 42 to 41 thriller, but oftentimes when we think
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: games are going to be like that, they go the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: total opposite, uh, Detroit and breaking down their gameplay against
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the jets. Dan Campbell was super impressed with his defense,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: which I don't quite understand why. I mean, They gave
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: up 16 fourth quarter points to the jets when they
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: were up 16 points and allow the jets to get
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: back into that game and make it a lot closer
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: than it needed to be. Uh, Detroit's got a lot
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to prove in this game at Carolina. Like you mentioned,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: got a high flying offense. I got a bunch of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: offensive weapons. We'll see the health of Jalen Coker. He's
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: a good young wide receiver for them. They've obviously, obviously
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: got Teterola McMillan. Um, That being said, I like the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I think this is a proving game for
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the Lions. They've held close with their opponents that they've
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: played throughout the first three games. This is the first
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: one I think the Lions win in controlling fashion. Give
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: me the Lions to win by 10 points. I expect
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson to get after the quarterback. DJ Wonham got
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: two sacks last game. Aleem McNeil's proven that he's healthy again.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Watch out for the bowling ball in the middle, Richard.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Skyler Gil Howard, the rookie out of Texas Tech. But
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that back end, man, that's secondary. That's where they got
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a lot to prove. We cannot just cross our fingers
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and pray for Kirby Joseph to return and pray for
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Brian Branch to return and pray for Joey Porter to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: be traded for. These guys in the room have got
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to step up, and the Detroit Lions have got to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: show that they are a contender in this NFC because
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: right now that offense has shown it, but that defense,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: oh boy. The Detroit Lions, as you called them, can
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: we put the D back in Detroit, please, for the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: love of God, Richard?
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: We're going to see. We're going to see because Tedderon McMillan, Crocker,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Xavier Leggett, Shubba Hubbard, those are names you're going to
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: be familiarizing yourself with this weekend. And I hope, I pray,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that the Detroit Lions play some defense this week. I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: know that Dan Campbell spoke life into them, as he should.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Good kid, coach, guy who wants his defense to show
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: up in a big way. If they don't, mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Conversation richard you want a dc job in detroit i
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: got a spare bedroom you can just lay your feet
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: up on man you can chill out here for a
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: couple weeks until you find a place around here it'll
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: be great it'll be great.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that i appreciate that well we would have
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of changes in the back end and we
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: would have some conversations and we need a whole training
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: camp off season maybe another off season And I'd need
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: some other coaches to, but that's, you know, we're not
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: going to go down that, we're not going down that path, Mitchell.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep Kelvin Shepard and, okay, good luck.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Well, Richard's calling for an upset Carolina Panthers, victorious against
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the Lions per Richard Sherman. Let's talk about the Raiders, Richard.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: This is the team, last week you said they were
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the surprise of the NFL after they started 2-0. They
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: just went on the road and knocked off the New
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, who look like a pretty solid team, especially, again,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: in this nasty NFC South. New Orleans Saints can't get
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it done at home, but this Raider team, 3-0. They're
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: down 11 points in the second half. They come back
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and ultimately win by 8. Impressive game. Kirk Cousins, the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: game manager that he is, throws for 248 in three
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: touchdowns with a 119 passer rating. You gotta love seeing
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Brock Bowers back with this offense. 13 targets, 10 receptions,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: 116 and a touchdown. Richard, is this Raider team for real?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Because they awfully look like it. They awfully sure do
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: look like it. Yeah, I know what you're trying to say.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Excuse me.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can rephrase that for you. Richard, is this
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Raider team for real? Question mark.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, this Raiders team is for real. And I know
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: people love to beat up on Kirk Cousins for the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: mistakes and how he looked in Atlanta at times. But
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: there were times he looked special. There was a game
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: we were there, he threw for 500, Mitchell. And that's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the peak and the ceiling of Kirk Cousins. And obviously
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: the floor is the floor. You know, he can turn
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the ball over. He can kind of fold in big moments.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it goes bad for him. But I think when
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak said, hey, let's go get Kirk kirk cousins
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: he understood that kirk cousins within this again this west
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: coast tight condensed kyle shanahan inside outside zone really condensed
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: passing game offense that mcveigh runs that a lot of
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: these teams run and clint kubiak ran it in seattle
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna run it in in in uh in
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: las vegas He operates it at a high level. He's
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a high-level processor, and he's a guy that can play.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And again, talking about those anticipatory throws, he can make
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: those throws. He can make those passes. He can make
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: those adjustments. He can understand how the defense is adjusting
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and hit those windows. Sometimes he can get really, really hot.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And right now, he was 22 of 33, 248, three touchdowns,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: 119 passer rating, really operating at a high level. And
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: when you give him a target and a real, I mean,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: just freak like Brock Bowers who can, who can catch
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: these passes and he can put a, he can, he can, uh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: he can catch them against DBs or linebackers and you
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: get matchups that you want. It gets really fun. Brock Bowers,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: 10 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown. Trey Tucker
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: got involved. Ashton Gentry didn't have the biggest game, but again,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: when they needed to have it on the ground, just
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: got those grinded out yards, kept making the run game viable.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Like they had to defend the run game. That's the
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: only way these play action passes that you have to
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: have in this offense work is that you got to
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: respect the run game and they respected it enough. Michael Meyer,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: a mayor, three receptions for 32 yards in the touchdown.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Mike Washington, five carries for 54 yards in the touchdown.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: He's making an impact, very explosive runs at times. They're
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a team you have to respect because they're playing solid
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: football on both sides of the ball. I think their
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: defense is making plays. They got a young guy. They
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: got a young guy. Let me get his name right
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: because it's biblical, Mitchell. It's biblical. His name is biblical.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Hezekiah Masses. Hezekiah Masses. Three interceptions tied for the league lead.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: A rookie. Fifth round pick, Mitchell. So there's a spot
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: in my heart. There's a place in my heart for Hezekiah.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Hezekiah is incredible. made one of the biggest plays of
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the day in this game. Now there are most, this
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: game turned into an absolute shit show at the end.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was fumbles all over the place. There was,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: there was turnovers left and right. I think Kirk fumbled, um,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck fumbled one and he got recovered and it
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: just seemed like a never ending game at the end.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: But when the game was tied, I think it was
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: 27 and 28. Uh, and the Raiders had just scored and,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and New Orleans had the ball, and they pressured Tyler Shuck,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and they looked like they ran a two-trap on defense,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: at least to Hezekiah's side, and he turned around, and
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: an errant pass by Tyler Shuck while he was under pressure.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: He got hit. The ball went out. This kid got
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: another interception. He had two the week before. He's got
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: three on the season, and his return, his return, I mean,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: his return skills were there. Mitchell, the guy's a ball player,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and he got it. He got it going, got them
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in scoring range, and really secured this win. Now, there
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: were ways, there were times that New Orleans could have
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: got something done, and Tyler Shutt deserves a ton of credit. 29-42, 255,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: four touchdown passes in this game, 106 rating. Also had
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: a big run in this game for 36 yards. Chris
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Olave is having a wonderful start to the season. Nine
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: for 107. Jawan Johnson, eight for eight. eight receptions on
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: eight targets for 53 yards and two touchdown passes. Again,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: a great start to the season. Noah Fant, four catches
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: on four targets for 33 yards, two touchdown catches. Again,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: he loves to target these tight ends. He loves to
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: get them involved, but it was not enough in this
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: game because of what we just talked about. The plays
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that Las Vegas was able to make down the stretch,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: two sacks, four takeaways in this game, and they're going
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to play the Kansas City Chiefs next week, and before
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: the season started, I don't think anybody would have looked
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: at that game and been like, oh man, this is
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: going to be a really cool game. This is going
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: to be a game that you got to watch that
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: might get flexed in the prime time. You wouldn't have
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: thought the Raiders game just based on the Raiders picking
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: number one in the draft from the last season. I mean,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: there's a reason they were picking number one in the draft,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: but now that they're three and oh, and we all
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: know what the Kansas city chiefs have been doing. They
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: got found a way to win today against the Miami dolphins.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't say found a way to win.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Miami dolphins don't have a ton of talent, but, Kenneth
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Walker and everything they got. This might be the game
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: of the week this week because of the way the
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders are playing. And that's not to say
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: anything really bad about the New Orleans Saints. They're in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: this NFC South that anybody can win. Everybody's still even.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Everybody's still even. And I would say... Of all things
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: going on, it's still Atlanta. I mean, it's hard to
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: say because if you look at any given week, you
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: could say Carolina's been playing really good football. You could
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: say that Atlanta this week against Green Bay played fantastic
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: football and Pennix is back. So now they have a
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: viable option at quarterback. Who can get this done and
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: who can open this offense up? But the New Orleans Saints,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: whoever was the scout that found Tyler Shaw and stood
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: on the table for them to draft him, deserves to
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: be called out and praised at a high level because
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: when they drafted him everybody including myself was like why
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: didn't they get Shador you know and that that's part
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: of the bias that we had during the time because
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Shador was falling in the draft and everybody was like
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: somebody got to pick him up is it going to
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: be New York is it going to be them is
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: it going to be Cleveland is it going to be
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: these teams is it going to be Baltimore and they
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: took Tyler Shuck and there were people that that said
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: hey man he's a really good quarterback you guys just
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: don't know yet He's a really good quarterback. You guys
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: just don't know yet. And they were right. They were, Richard.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, the one knock on him coming out of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: college as a rookie is his age. He was a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: 26-year-old rookie. But, you know, even when they were playing
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the Lions two weeks ago, I guess the opening week
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: of the season, Mark Brunel. the lions QB coach said
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: he had him ranked as the number one quarterback in
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that draft, you know? So he obviously had believers, you know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: but when the one knock is your age at 26,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, a team like the saints that need, uh, some,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I guess a veteran presence under center, To get a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: 26-year-old rookie kind of makes sense. But Richard, before we
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: leave this game, the Las Vegas Raiders, they become the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: first team since 2013 to start a season 3-0 after
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: finishing the previous season with.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: The worst record in football.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So this Raiders team is making some noise right now.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Is there any shot in the world we could see
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: them in the top five of your power ranks?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Mitchell, I don't know. I don't know. Right now, Mitchell,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gun shy about that because I did that with
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals and I got stung for it. So
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm probably going to give it another week.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: If they can beat the Kansas City Chiefs, then sure,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: we can start to have that conversation. But right now,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet. And I know Raiders fans,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you guys are passionate. You guys are really, really incredible.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: But They're just not there yet for me, and I'm
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: not going to force it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: This segment is sponsored by Sling TV, and it's called
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Rule Breakers. Richard, who is a cornerback in the past
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: who you would personify as a rule breaker? I'd have
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: to go with the legend, Charles Woodson. 65 career interceptions.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: A guy that wasn't where quarterbacks thought he was going
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: to be, that they may have thought, hey, I got
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a beat on this play. They're running this coverage, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: then Of course, Charles Woodson just breaks the coverage, goes
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: where the ball is going, takes the football away, and
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: keeps going. A rule breaker, Mitchell. A guy who had
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: instincts that are out of this world. A guy who
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: dominated the football field, dominated every position he played, whether
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: it was nickel, safety, or the outside corner, because he
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: dictated the pace. He dictated where the ball was going
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: with his positioning, with his IQ. Just an incredible guy,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and of course, a rule breaker.
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• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And you were just saying about these roughing the passer issues.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Miami Dolphins... inevitably lost the Kansas City Chiefs,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: who continue to look impressive. But when this game was
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: close and the Kansas City Chiefs were backed up against
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: their own end zone, Chop Robinson got called for a
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: 15-yard roughing the passer call, which to me looked like
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just a big, solid hit. But because he landed on
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he was flagged. Not to say that the
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: end result wouldn't have been any different, but for a
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: team that's battling like the Miami Dolphins are, to have
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: that penalty go against you Totally changes the momentum of
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the game. Richard, back to the Kansas City side of things, though.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes continues to impress. 20 of 24, 246, two touchdowns,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: 119 passer rating. Got Rasheed Rice involved, seven receptions, 88 yards.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's kind of turned back the clock of time.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: He looks like his old self. Two receptions, 59 yards
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and a touchdown. And then the big one, K-9, Kenneth Walker,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the Michigan State Spartan. Former Seattle Seahawks running back, who
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing Seattle fan base, the 12s, desperately wish still
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: was donning the Seattle Seahawks number nine.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there a bigger surprise this season from
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: an offensive skill position player than Kenneth Walker is with
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: No, there's not a... I can't say there's not a
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: bigger offseason pickup because there are some other guys that
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: are hand-in-glove fits. But one of the bigger offseason pickups
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League and one of the more
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: perfect fits for their team that was picked up. And
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: he's making a tremendous impact and taking a lot of
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: pressure off of Patrick Mahomes. And I think that's appreciated.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: He's making their lives a lot easier, both in the
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: run game, but also in the pass game. He had
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: a pass touchdown in this game as well. And he's
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: just a guy that when things aren't going perfectly and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: they need an explosive play, he continues to deliver. He's
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: delivered tremendously. every game for the first three games of
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the season. He's a big reason why they're, they're, they are, uh,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: what they are. They're three and oh, right now in
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: the season, whether Patrick Mahomes plays well or whether he
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't play well, they have been able to lean on
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: him for consistency. And again, Travis Kelsey continues to find
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: a way. What do you, what do you have these
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: numbers somewhere else? I don't know, but his rapport and his,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: his relationship with Patrick Mahomes just keeps allowing them to,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to find these, these holes and these voids in the defense.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: And he seems to just have a, a great knack
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: for finding it. And when he does, Patrick Mahomes is
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: giving him the football and allowing him to do what
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: he does. And that's been fantastic to watch. On the
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: other side, this isn't a very talented Miami Dolphins team,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: but they fought. They fought. And you got to give
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Jeff Halfley a lot of credit. They fought. Malik Willis
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: is getting better and better. He's making plays. He's pushing
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the ball down the field. They're playing in the absence
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: of fear because they have nothing to lose. You know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't say losing by 14 points is
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: a win by any stretch of the imagination and you
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: only score 10 points offensively. But at times they were
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: battling in this game. They were in this game was
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: closer than the score says. And I think if you're
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Jeff Halfley, you have to talk about that as a win.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: This team is building. They are in dead cap hell.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I think they're got $ 180 million in dead money. You
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: traded away all your best players. So you're trying to
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: develop players and teach them winning habits. You're not going
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: to win this year. And if you get the number
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: one pick or you're in the running for the number
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: one pick, there are some solid quarterbacks out of college
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that you're going to have an opportunity to get. And
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: obviously the big name that everybody's going to talk about
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: is Arch Manning. I don't know if he's going to
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: be the top quarterback to come out this year. I
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: got to study more college tape and watch that and
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: listen to Mel Kiper and the guys that are extra,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Todd Mache and all those guys who handled the draft.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't think Miami is looking to do anything
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: but build for the future. and see who's going to
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: be a part of that future. I think they're starting
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: to see some guys that have made some plays and
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: are trying to find a way. They had a takeaway
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: in this game. They got some guys that could be
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: a part of that future, but they got a tough
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: game against the Minnesota Vikings coming up, and obviously Brian
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Flores had some bad blood for Miami. He had some
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: bad blood. So if you thought Brian Flores was going
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: to bring some blitzes for anybody, He's going to bring
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: some blitzes to Miami. That's no question about it. He
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: don't feel bad about having a lack of talent or anything.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: He remembers how he was done in Miami, and I
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: don't think that's something he'll ever forget.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next game. And, Richard, this
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: is my no-doubt-about-it lock of the week. I'm taking the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs on the road to beat the Las
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, the 3-0 Red Hot Raiders. We'll get knocked
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: off this week by Division 4 Kansas City Chiefs. That's
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: my no doubt about it. Lock of the week. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: this next game preview is sponsored by Polymarket. We got
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the Raiders versus the Chiefs, and both teams are undefeated.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: It's a must-watch TV on Sunday. Raiders at home, and
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Polymarket has Kansas City with a 65% chance to win
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: this game, while the Raiders are just at 35%. With
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: all that being said, Richard, Do you agree with Polly
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Market's assessment of this game?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Do I agree with Polly Market's assessment, Mitchell? I don't
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: think I do because this has upset alert written all
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: over it, and it's obviously not my biggest upset of
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the week because I got another game, and I don't
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: know if you're going to like what I have to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: say about that, but we'll get there eventually. But this
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Raiders offense... Nothing too crazy, nothing too shiny, nothing like
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: to write home about. Just effective. Clint Kubiak is using everybody. Obviously,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Brock Bowers had a big game last week. He's going
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to be incredibly involved in this game. Trey Tucker. Trey
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Tucker has just been a reliable target. Has 15 targets
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: on the season, 11 catches for 189 yards and one touchdown.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And then again, Kirk Cousins. Not doing anything crazy in
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: three games. He's completing 67% of his passes, about 220
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a game, 661 yards, nine touchdowns, only three interceptions. Solid football.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And he fits well in this scheme. He's one of
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: the better quarterbacks in this scheme. And I think people
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: are starting to finally understand with Justin Herbert's struggles within
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: this offense that Hey, maybe this offense isn't as easy
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: and simple and plug-and-play as we once thought, but there
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: are certain guys who, once you plug them into this offense,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: it just works, and he's one of them. I also
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: like Mike Washington and Ashton Gentry and how they're spelling
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: them and how they're back and forth, but Hezekiah Masses,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Hezekiah Masses, the fifth-round rookie corner who's got three interceptions
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: on the season, I just like it. Mitchell, first off,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I like his name as a guy in masses, but
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: a fifth rounder making plays, catching a football, turning the
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: ball over. He's going to factor in that defense. N'Kobe Dean.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: N'Kobe Dean is a tone setter. Mitchell, you turn on
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the tape of the Las Vegas Raiders and you will
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: see 17 everywhere the ball is. So Mitchell, not so fast. Now,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: do I think it's going to be upset there's a
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: maybe baby I don't know if this four and a
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: half point spread that Polly Market has is going to
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: happen I know the Raiders are going to fight I
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: don't know because they played the Miami Dolphins and not
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: that it was a close game but it was closer
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: than you would expect the Miami Dolphins to be to
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs This isn't just same old Raiders. Mitchell,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: this is a team that's well coached, formidable, and playing
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: good football on both sides of the ball.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give Kansas City the win in this one.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have them covering the spread.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I don't hate that breakdown, but if you're not joining
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: me in my no doubt about it lock of the week, Richard,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I thought we saw eye to eye on this kind
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff, man. I guess you want to pick it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: and win. I got the chiefs covering with these. I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: think they're going to win by two touchdowns. This is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: a division rivalry game. And I just know how Patrick
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Mahomes plays when he gets up for big games. And shockingly,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: this is turning into a big game. Give me Patrick
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and the chiefs to cover. And I'll take the
• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: chance to score. More than two and a half touchdowns
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: in this game. Do you see that playing out? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: for the reasons we just talked about. In the red zone,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: they have two big targets, and Michael Mayer and obviously
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Brock Bowers, Trey Tucker, Spiester can get down the field,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and then Ashton Gentry and Mike Washington Jr.
• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Our top five going into week four. Mitchell, who do
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: you have in your top five? Richard, like you just said,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: there is an awful lot of parody in this NFL season.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: We talked about it last podcast. It's almost like these
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: first three games have been the preseason where teams that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: you expect to be good look bad and teams that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you expect to be bad look good. And it's tough
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to shuffle these guys out. I mean, when you look
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: at our top five, we got these in front of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: us here. I'm rolling with the Bills, number one.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I know it might be a little controversial to folks
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco, but having seen the Bills firsthand, what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: they did to my Detroit Lions, I got to put
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: them number one. They had a horrendous game last week,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: still came out victorious despite turning the ball over five times.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I like the Bills. The Niners are two for obvious reasons.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: 3-0 look dominant offensively and defensively. Brock Purdy looks like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: an MVP candidate. I like the Niners at two. I'm very,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: very confident in them in the top two. Number three,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the rise of the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes with
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a fresh ACL. Kenneth Walker, K-9. I saw in the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: comments section after last episode, Richard, a lot of Seattle
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Seahawks fans wishing they paid K-9 and not Rashid Shahid.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Was that a mistake? I don't know, but I like
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Number three in my ranks. That brings me
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: to number four, and that is the Seattle Seahawks. Despite
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: losing on the road, I will give them some grace.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: They have been dominant over the last year. I'll cut
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: them some slack in losing this game against Washington. We'll
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: call it, you know, a little time zone hangover situation,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: having to play at 10 a.m.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Pacific time.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see how they rock out this upcoming weekend. And five,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: that's where there's so many teams up in the air.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: But after watching Monday Night Football, And what Ben Johnson
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: did with a third-string quarterback and a 38-year-old Case Keenum,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I'm rolling with the Chicago Bears at number five. Richard,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: what did I get wrong?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Mitchell, you started your whole list wrong. At number one,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I got the San Francisco 49ers playing the best football
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League on both sides of the ball.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And I know, I know, injuries, injuries, injuries. They are
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: devastating right now. But the guy... who gives me the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: most confidence in the San Francisco 49ers, and I'm going
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to knock on wood, is healthy, and that's Brock Purdy,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: who should be in the lead for MVP, but I'm
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: sure Vegas might have Josh Allen. I thought after all
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: the turnovers this week, Josh Allen would fall and Brock
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Purdy would rise, but that didn't happen. Christian McCaffrey continues
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: to look fantastic. Again, Kalon Black is doing a great
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: job spelling him. George Kittle looks fantastic in the pass game.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Had a big game last week. Might have stolen a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: touchdown from Brock Purdy after a phantom holding call. You know,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: there was some sabotage there, allegedly. But defensively, Fred Warner
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: and Dre Greenlaw continued to just change the outlook of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: these games. Dre Greenlaw goes out with a quad injury.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans goes out with a rib injury. Trent Williams
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: goes out with a stinger. Again, things you do not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: want to see if you're a San Francisco 49er fan,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: but I think they're going to be able to overcome
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: these things. It looks like all those guys are potentially
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: going to be available this week, so that's great news.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: This is on top of all the other receivers that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: they've lost. Deshaun Stribling, Demarcus Robinson, Ricky Persall. The list
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: goes on and on. Obviously, they'll get some of these
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: guys back as the weeks progress, but They're still the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: best team out there, and I think as they continue
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: to develop, Grayson Halton. Grayson Halton. It just sounds like Halton,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: but I feel like Halton is the way you should
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: say it. But he's been playing fantastic football. He's a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: diamond in the rough, found gold for the San Francisco 49ers,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: so I like him. Number two on my list, the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills are a really good football
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: team with an MVP candidate, a quarterback, but there are
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of question marks. especially on the defensive side
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: of the ball. They played really, really well this week
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers, but the Chargers haven't really played that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: well against anybody. And they scored the most points they've
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: scored all season against the Bills. And that's not saying
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: much because they've scored 14 against the Raiders and 14
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, which, I mean, it is what it is.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: But the Buffalo Bills, the reason they moved to two
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: instead of one in my rankings is the five turnovers
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: they had. They were at home. Josh Allen with some
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: uncharacteristic mistakes, pushing the ball down the field into double
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: coverage against DJ. I mean, with two DJ Moore, that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: play got intercepted. Another interception in the game gave up
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: a fumble in the game. No. Yes. Yes. Gave up
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: a fumble in the game. James Cook gives up a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: fumble early in this game. Just too many turnovers for
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: me to be comfortable putting them one. Number three, the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Again, Kenneth Walker. He's a guy that's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: making a huge difference for this team as Patrick Mahomes
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: continues to find his legs, continues to find his rhythm.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: He's going to go through ups and downs of the season,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: but they have somebody else they can lean on when
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: things aren't going great through the air. Defensively, some young
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: defensive backs learning on the fly. I still like Noel Williams.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: And again, anytime they got an Arias, you guys think
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I'm joking, but anytime the Kansas City Chiefs have an Arias,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they make it to that last game. And I know
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: you guys reminded me. There was an Arias I forgot about.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: There's Legereus. There is Charverius. And then there was Kadarius.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Kadarius Doney with the punt return in the Super Bowl. Like,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: when they have an Arias, they end up in that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: last game. So I feel good about their chances. The
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks at number four really head-scratching loss against the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. You thought, hey, backup quarterback Jaden Daniels is out.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota steps in. You thought this Seattle Seahawks defense
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: has been consistent, but Mike McDonald's teams have been consistent
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: on the road. They were 16-2 before taking this loss
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: to the Commanders. They gave up 33 points, so it's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: kind of back to the drawing board. I'm sure this
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: is going to be a very motivated team when they
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: go back to Seattle to play the LA Chargers. The Broncos.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: The Broncos beat The L.A. Rams, they beat the L.A. Rams,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: the team that everybody coming into this season said had
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: the potential to go undefeated and be world beaters. And
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: just nobody, how could anybody compete against this team and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: all the talent that they have on paper? Again, this
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: game isn't played on paper. It's played on the grass.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: And these are grown men, and grown men against grown men.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to impose their will, and somebody's not. And
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: right now, people are getting the better of the L.A. Rams.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: And not to say that they're not playing great, Matthew
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Stafford has had some really great moments, especially to Devontae Adams.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: They're missing Puka Nakua, which is a huge part of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: their offense. They're finding a way. They started the game
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: really fast against the Denver Broncos, but the Denver Broncos
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: turned around in the second half and figured it out,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: figured it out. Bo Nix figured it out, started pushing
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the ball down the field. They started to make big plays,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: started to find his playmakers defensively. They started to put
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: some pressure on Matthew Stafford, started to force some mistakes,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: some misthrows, and found a way to pull out a win,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: and Sean Payton said it. He said, I mean, we're
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: great in these games, and they've been doing a great
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: job coming back in a lot of these games that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: they had to have, but you don't always have to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: come back. Sometimes you could just be winning outright. So
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I feel good about this top five, but as always,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: this NFL, anybody can beat anybody, and that's showing more
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: than ever.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I'm already predicting the future here, Richard. There's going to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: be a couple fan bases that are going to be
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: barking at you here a little bit, and they're going
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: to be barking at me, too. We left out two
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: undefeated teams. That being the Raiders and that being the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, because we both are in agreeance on this.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I think the Raiders just need one more week to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: prove themselves. If you look at their schedule, I mean,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: some would call it somewhat lucky and weak to open
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: up against the Dolphins, the Chargers, who have not been
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: who people thought they were, and obviously the Saints. But
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I really do like the Raiders. They're right on the cusp,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: but they're more in the 8-9 range for me. And
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: then the Vikings, man, vaunted defense. However, what do they
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: look like offensively? They allowed the Tampa Bay Bucs to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: hang in that game. I'm still not a believer in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: the Vikings just yet. Why did you leave them out
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: of your ranks?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Well, for that reason. I mean, I'm a believer in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: that defense. I'm a believer in Brian Flores, Dallas Turner,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Blake Cashman, Andrew Van Ginkle. And everything that they've done,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Rogers, Byron Murphy, those guys, Harrison Smith, no question
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: about it. But the offense is a concern. Now, do
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: they have a talented offense? No question about it. And
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones can get it done at any time. But
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, you know, he has to find his sea legs.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: He has to be more consistent for me to feel
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: comfortable with this offense. Yes, he threw a nice pass
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: to Addison. for a touchdown, which was great. But I don't,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: he just doesn't have the comfort level in this offense
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: yet that gives me confidence that they're going to be
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: like a top 10, top five offense consistently this year.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe that'll change. They're not playing a really tough schedule.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: They got the Miami Dolphins. Then they got Tyler Shuck
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: and the New Orleans Saints. Then they got Indiana Jones
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: and the Indianapolis Colts. And then they got your Detroit Lions.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: So You look for a game where you can say, hey,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: if they beat these guys, then we'll give them respect. Obviously,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: if the Raiders beat the Kansas City Chiefs, who are
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: in both of our top fives, I think that puts
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: them in the discussion. But until then, it's tough. Now,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: if the Minnesota Vikings start off 5-6-0, you're going to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: have to put them in there. This is the National
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Football League. It's hard to win that many games in
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: a row. And regardless of what it looks like, they're undefeated.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to get in the top five,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: no question about it.