Latest / What Do You Call It? Podcast! / 🐉TYSON KEATON🐉 talks Jushin Liger, MMA, DKW, Mask, Japanese wrestling, debut, Bruce Lee & more

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🐉TYSON KEATON🐉 talks Jushin Liger, MMA, DKW, Mask, Japanese wrestling, debut, Bruce Lee & more · What Do You Call It? Podcast!

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  Hello and welcome to another episode.
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  What do you call it podcast? I'm your host GB.
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  Just want to send a quick shout out to Congo You're Keeping me
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  #1 in your country for the podcast.
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  Much love, much love. Might have to get your football
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  show for the future, but I'm not going to talk about Congo
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  anymore. I'm going to introduce today's
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  guest. Today's guest is The Walking
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  weapon Golden Dragon. Please welcome Big Boss Tyson
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  Keaton. Tyson AB mate, you're good.
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  Thank you for having me. Pleasure time, you're right.
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  Pleasure to have you on a Spicejet Weston.
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  We correct you instantly. You call me The Walking Weapon,
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  and that's Josh Alexander. Damn it got it wrong with that.
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  I'm the I'm the Lizzing weapon. That's what I meant.
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  Damn it, that's. The one.
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  Mate, I do apologise. Well so bad start here.
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  I'm not even going to be recorded.
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  It's going to be sometimes I'll fuck up.
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  Don't have to. That's good.
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  Don't have to. We're live now.
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  Normally I rewind the clocks and find out he got invested and I
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  will get there, but I'm actually going to kick start this
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  interview with you by asking you the questions that were asked to
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  me on my social media when I asked.
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  Let's ask Tyson Keaton some questions.
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  For this interview. I'm going to start with the
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  first one that I received, Ricardo Borg, and know what's
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  your favorite hold? Oh oh geez.
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  Shit, I could be here all day. Give me 3.
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  Give me 3. OK, the sharpshooter or scorpion
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  death lock if you're a fucking nerd, the Koji clutch and the
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  octopus hold. Nice, that's a good move.
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  Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of Japanese stuff.
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  So yeah, there's always going to be Japanese stuff for me.
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  Hope you're happy Ricardo Raymond O'Reilly He would like
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  for you to reveal your favorite match of the year so far.
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  Well, I think you know why he asked that, because he knows.
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  He knows that. I'm going to say it's with him.
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  It was back in August at Bring Me Pro Wrestling, which was
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  against Raymond. And yeah, I mean for this
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  year's, definitely my favorite this year so far, but I'm
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  thinking about it now. No offense to anyone else, I've
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  wrestled at Bring Me Pro Wrestling, but I think it's my
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  favorite match at Bring Me Pro Wrestling so far as well.
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  So I'm I'm very happy with it and I think Raymond is too.
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  So. Nice.
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  Yeah, we beat the piss out of each other, so it's good fun.
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  Sweet, and the last one I've got from the user Ben, Ben Ben Ben
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  for Ben's. I think his name's Ben.
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  Ben has asked if you could change one thing about your
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  wrestling career, what would it be?
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  Oh, deep in. It that's a big question.
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  Who still hasn't done wrong my fluff questions.
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  Jesus. I don't know if it's accusing me
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  of something. I mean so many answers that
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  anyone, any wrestler could give. To be honest, I.
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  Mean it's I think it's a good question, but it.
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  Is a good question. Oh, yeah, I like.
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  I like ones that make me think, Yeah.
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  If it's a straightforward answer though, but yeah, think man,
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  think. Change the only thing like
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  superficial like oh I changed my gear colour and.
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  You know what, because we're going to dissect your career
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  anyway, let's come back to this question at the end all.
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  Right. And then once we've discussed
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  more what you've achieved, how you got into wrestling and a
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  little bit more about Big Boss, then I think that might be able
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  to be answered better. So we will come back to the
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  question Ben for Ben's but. Ben Ben.
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  Ben. Ben.
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  Ben. Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben.
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  So Tyson, we're going to rewind the clocks and I want to
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  discover what made you a wrestling fan.
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  So essentially, it wasn't even through watching wrestling to
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  begin with. It was through video games.
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  It's just very, very just, oh, here's a wrestling video game,
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  started playing it, got obsessed with it, and then went into
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  watching wrestling. I knew I by the way it was
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  Smackdown versus Raw 2008, specifically that one.
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  The ECW 1. Yes, yes, yeah, that ECW went
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  right, right in the middle there, like featuring ECW.
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  It's like, yeah, that you they're here too type thing.
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  But yeah, but I knew I knew about wrestling.
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  It wasn't like, Oh my God, what's this?
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  I knew what it was essentially in in a vague way.
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  I knew all the big names, Hulk Hogan, John Cena, probably the
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  Undertaker, Stone Cold, you know, like the really like the
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  really mainstream outside of wrestling names.
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  And yeah, played that relentlessly.
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  It was actually one of my friends who owned it.
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  He had a PlayStation two. He owned that game and I played
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  it relentlessly. And then once I got a
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  PlayStation 2, that was one of the first games I bought, played
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  that for God knows how many hours and then thought I'll
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  just, I'll just start watching this.
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  And at that time it was on, I believe, Sky Sports.
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  Yeah, Sky Sports 1-2 or three. One of those stayed up that.
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  Well, it's like a stupid lifetime, doesn't it?
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  When it's. Yeah, I mean, I mean sky is
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  still around, but not really, not really uses it really much
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  these days. But yeah, I stayed up till, you
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  know, stupid o'clock in the morning, as probably we all did.
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  Watching Monday Night Raw Live at one 1:00, waking up at 6
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  still still on the. Sofa, that's it.
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  Yeah. Oh God, seen as one again.
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  I mean, you've fed. Up.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Surprise, surprise, yeah, but
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  yeah. And then pretty much from there
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  watched it religiously for years and then as I got into my late
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  teens, like not yeah, about 17/18/19 about then I became I
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  still watched it regularly. I still kept up with the
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  products. Not so much the pay per views,
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  but the roaring Smack down. I would watch when I could.
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  But then I became a bit disillusioned with WWE.
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  Not wrestling, just WWE because I joined.
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  I mean don't mean don't want to be mean, but I basically joined
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  probably one of the worst eras as they transitioned into the PG
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  era like in 2008 onwards. So like I mean at the time I was
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  enjoying it. It was good fun.
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  But as I got older I was like, I don't know if this is for me
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  anymore as I started questioning if I should even keep up with
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  wrestling because I was so like it's it's a kiddie show for
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  kids. Like I appreciate the
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  characters, but I did look up to and enjoy like Undertaker and CM
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  Punk, Randy Orton, you know, list goes on.
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  But like the products and like the stories and the matches,
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  everything got into it was just a bit like this is very
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  predictable and a lot of it's like kind of cringy and like 2
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  Charles you. Know when The Muppets?
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  Oh yeah. Guest host.
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  Of the show. That was pretty fun.
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  That was pretty fun. That was that was fine.
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  I didn't mind The Muppets, but yeah, just.
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  But yeah, the whole, yeah, the guest host of Raw thing that was
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  that overstayed its welcome very quickly.
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  But yeah. But then, so from then is when I
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  started to discover indie wrestling like a lot later.
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  That's good. Which, And it was just just
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  going on YouTube, just looking up like, indie wrestling clips,
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  like matches and, you know, compilations of finishing moves
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  and like, crazy spots. And like the first clip I
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  watched that was just like this, like it's, it's as if I
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  rediscovered wrestling, you know, So I was like a 11 year
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  old again, like playing that Smackdown.
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  All my life, yeah. I know it was basically that I
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  was I was like a fan again. I was become it was like such a
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  low watching WWE for so long and getting so disillusioned with
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  the product. And then just one YouTube clip,
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  you know, seeing like a grainy like 2006 like compilation of
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  like Ring of Honour or something, and like seeing these
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  Japanese wrestlers doing these crazy like stiff strikes on each
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  other. And I'm just like eyes bulging
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  like this is this is what I want now.
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  This is what I want. Yeah, this is my wrestling now
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  on. Yeah, actually, yeah.
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  And then that, that's pretty much all it'd be.
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  And I'd still, because I was basically reignited as a fan
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  again, I would, I would still keep up with WWEI was like, OK,
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  I'll still keep up. But like this, like this, this
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  indie stuff, this, this is my jam now.
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  And from then, like I just like was just on a binge of, you
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  know, Ring of Honour and you know, UK stuff like some Rev
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  pro. I wouldn't actually be watching
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  the actual products. I'd just be watching YouTube,
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  YouTube clips because that's like, that's all.
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  I didn't know where like to find the stuff like and all the stuff
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  that was in America was like likely inaccessible.
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  Yeah, like PWT and stuff. Like unless you ordered from
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  America on a DVD, yeah, that you just wouldn't find a way of
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  finding it. You know, times are hard as
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  well, you know, your teammates just.
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  I'm not going to pay like £30 for a DVD, just one show.
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  No, no YouTube. Oh cool.
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  Like 5 minutes. Kevin Owens against Adam Cole,
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  something like that, you know? Yeah, perfect.
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  Yeah, I I was perfectly content watching highlight videos on
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  YouTube, like like I would still, I would still like get
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  into the matches like, oh, like, Oh yeah.
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  But and then with that, I then discovered my obsession with
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  Japanese wrestling. Then I would like be exclusively
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  on that, you know, discover, you know, I'll just be on all Japan
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  NOAA and of course, like up to New Japan Pro Wrestling and like
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  it would almost be exclusively that.
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  And then and then I discovered New Japan Pro Wrestling like in
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  the modern times, loud out there.
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  Like not long after I was going into Japanese wrestling,
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  watching all that, I would find out that New Japan World was
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  starting their subscription that the kind of their WWE Network
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  type thing, their subscription service.
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  I was like, OK, I'll get on that and I'll.
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  Subscribe to New Japan World. I'm surprised.
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  But you've never done WWE Network.
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  I did. Oh, OK, Fair enough.
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  Yeah. I did WWE Network, yes.
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  Yeah, I did both because, yeah, even though I wasn't watching it
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  as much as like Indies and Japanese wrestling, I'd still be
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  like, OK, well, I'll still, I'll still, I'll still keep up when I
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  can, like watch the pay per views.
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  In fact, actually NXT was the only thing I watched from WWE
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  like for a long time, like coming back, especially coming
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  back from the Indies and Japanese wrestling.
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  And then I just couldn't watch any main roster stuff from WWE.
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  Just be NXT like all like any time there was a Takeover, I'd
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  just be like, that's all I'd watch.
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  And then back to the Indies because like NXT at that time,
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  the black and gold, like the old school black and gold era was
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  essentially the Indies. But unlike a bigger production,
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  yeah, that's like mass, just a bigger production value.
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  Yeah. And so like, I obviously loved
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  that shit. Yeah.
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  And then I. Just get sad about thinking
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  about the black and gold era. Just I loved it so much.
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  Yeah, I still rewatched like, like, like, like clips and
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  matches like it was such a good time.
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  But yeah. And then that's, that's kind of
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  my fan journey. And then when I initially
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  thought, oh, like I I'm kind of like engrossed in this more,
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  more than a fan. Like I'm like watching this now,
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  like, oh, wait, I, I kind of want to like be there.
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  I want to like do that now. Yeah.
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  And it was just building and building and building, but I was
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  just stopping myself because I'd just be like, Nah, that's I'm
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  not going to. I'm going to start wrestling
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  like, because physically I, I knew I could do a lot of the
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  things. That's why my excitement was
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  building to try it, because of my background in martial arts
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  and gymnastics, which also. Oh, it's going to come to that,
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  but I'm glad you've. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's all, it's all coming together, yeah, which has
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  influenced basically my character and my style of
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  wrestling. Yeah.
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  And the, the wrestler that inspired me to actually like do
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  it, like go to my first training session was Juicing Thunderliga.
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  Like out of everyone I've watched for years and years in
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  WWE, these like large little life characters, all these like
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  guys in the Indies in Ring of Honour and Noah, all these
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  Japanese wrestlers. It was just I saw Juicing
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  Thunderliga wrestle and I'm just like, he's, he's just great.
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  I can't actually explain. Awesome.
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  Modestly, mate. I remember like seeing him live
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  and I met him. He wasn't the character, it
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  could have been anyone, but I knew it was him and I was just
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  like, Oh my God, it's so cool. Yeah, no, he he's, he's a man.
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  He's he's the greatest. And like the reason like he
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  influenced me so much is because he just did, he just did
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  everything. He was like, I think like one of
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  the best, like all around wrestlers like to ever do it.
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  It's like he he had the he could do the striking, did the high
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  flying and he like could do the power moves as well.
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  Like even had the career places, I know people associate more
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  like the Rock or Austin stuff, but like just like if you don't
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  watch the stuff was like how he comes out and how he looks and
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  there's little things he does in the ring.
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  Like he just put it all together.
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  He was just. Yeah, like all of that on top of
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  it, on top of like, you know, character.
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  Yeah, like his presence and the this overused word I don't like
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  using, but aura essentially like, yeah, you had like
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  everything. Like crossing that one out Aura.
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  Yeah, yeah, I. Think I called.
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  Nah, that's cool, man. Also, like I just never really
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  heard anyone say maybe over 250 episodes now, Juice and Lager
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  was pretty much the inspiration for essentially getting in the
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  ring. And that's what I want to move
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  on to now is when you did get in the ring, where did you begin
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  your training and when? So when it was, I mean it wasn't
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  that long ago, but like because wrestling timeline, everything
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  just kind of fades in to 1. I think it was like the late
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  2021 or early 2022. I started with DKW, the drop
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  Kicks, which is in Purfleet, based in Purfleet, Essex.
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  And I was just because it was, it's super close by.
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  Like I think it's about less than 20 minutes from me.
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  I'm based in Brentwood, Essex and they, they've been around
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  since the 90s. You know, I'd looked at like
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  some of the guys that had come through there and I thought, no,
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  just, I just try it. Like I just wanted to just have
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  a go. It wasn't anything like, Oh
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  yeah, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to be fucking sick.
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  I'm going to be the next Juicing Thunder Liger in like like a
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  month. Wembley Stadium, here I come.
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  Yeah, fucking all in, baby. But yeah, yeah, it was literally
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  just have a have a go. But I didn't have any
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  expectations. I was just like, just have a go.
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  And I even then, like, I think everyone feels this like before
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  I had that, I was like really nervous.
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  It's a really common thing where people like, start their
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  journey, but it's a very common like trope, I guess is the word.
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  Like when people talk about their journeys in the past, when
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  they went to their first session, they're like, oh God, I
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  was really. That's really nerve wracking.
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  You know anyone? You know anyone?
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  Yeah, there's a new environment. I don't know what I'm doing.
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  Like, how do I, I've seen it on TV, but how do I, how do I
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  actually wrestle? But yeah, luckily, like
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  thankfully most places, most schools, it's very chill, easy
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  environment like, and yeah, I can't remember exactly what I
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  did. Oh, no, no, no, I do remember
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  they're actually doing promos in the in the very first session I
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  did though, they just happened to be doing some promos as well.
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  They had the ring sets up, they were doing a ring session, but
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  like that was the splitting that up some, some people doing
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  promos outside and then they would come back in and do some
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  ring sessions. So I was a bit, it was a bit
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  daunting, like trying to do a like just on the fly promo in
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  your first, in your first ever training session.
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  I can't even remember what it was.
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  It was I was going. To say, do you remember like
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  what you said like roughly? Some corny.
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  Shit. Like I think, I think it was
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  just like, oh, you're you're wrestling Lucas Jackson this
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  Sunday, Like go. So I was just like, so like
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  deadpan, like fucking like, yeah, I'm going to, yeah, I'm
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  going to fucking yeah. Lucas Jackson this Sunday, the
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  20, whatever the fuck, I'm going to get you.
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  I'm going to knee you in the face.
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  And that was. Just take my money, yeah?
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  Yeah, I'm going to drive my kneecap through your skull,
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  bitch. I don't think I said bitch, but
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  I should have done. Would have been better.
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  So. You talk about your best Primo,
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  but tell me about the first match you have.
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  Also how long was it that you trained for until you had your
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  in ring debut? Oh, right.
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  I think it's about four or five months.
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  Yeah. Yeah, around that time, four or
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  five months until I had my singles debut.
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  But technically, if you want to count it, my actual debut was in
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  a battle royal. Yeah.
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  So I'd say about four months. That's such a that's such a
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  British thing, isn't it? The battle royal debut.
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  It's it's everyone. It's, I mean, that's, that's
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  just a wrestling thing. That's, that's everyone, like
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  everyone's debut match is a Rumble battle royal Monty man
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  schmoz thing, which is fine. You're in there for a few
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  minutes and then you're, you're out there.
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  You're basically builds like, even though it's like a quick
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  like 1-2 minute thing for the most part, like it does build a
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  degree of confidence just being out there.
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  Yeah, I don't understand that. Yeah.
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  Even if you're like like in the in a massive shuffle of like 12
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  other fucking guys all just like throwing arms and legs.
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  But you're able to like get yourself out a bit spotlight
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  like Torn. One thing was like, yeah, come
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  on, that's it. No.
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  Straight out no. No, straight out I dozen strikes
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  in and then try to like hoof over a like in bodybuilder Ian
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  Frost. Don't I have, you know, do you
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  know Ian? Yeah, I've had Ian Frost.
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  Yeah, I tried to hoof him over. He wasn't having it and then
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  launched and then launched me out.
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  Yeah, that was fun. But yeah, my singles debut was
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  about a month or two after that. It was against Taylor James.
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  Oh. Nice.
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  Yeah. So yeah, that was a that was a
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  good debut in terms of debut matches.
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  Like not to toot my own horn, but could have been a lot worse.
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  Like it was like it was very good for like a first, a first
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  singles match, especially someone like against him.
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  He may or may have not reunited of him not long ago.
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  Yeah, maybe just kind of sporadically just joined forces
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  because of our, yeah, combined hatred of Lucas Jackson.
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  Sorry, Lucas, I like you. Don't worry, there's many people
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  that do, but you know. Yeah, we just sided.
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  Yeah. Now it's going to be Emma.
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  You heard we just took a quick break then, so I was just going
• 19:57
  to ask Tyson about his look. So if you've lived under a rock.
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  You have to have seen his style. His wrestling style is very
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  unique. He can do aerial, he can do
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  ground, he can do submission, he can do it all essentially.
• 20:11
  I think even when he comes out of his entrance and you see his
• 20:15
  look, the mask is awesome. You know, I think your attire is
• 20:18
  really cool, but I just want to know the inspiration for this
• 20:20
  mate. Yeah.
• 20:23
  So essentially because of my martial arts background
• 20:28
  specifically, I guess is like the main link to it because I
• 20:32
  did Muay Thai. So like like, you know, so I
• 20:37
  mean, all, all forms of Asian martial arts and like mythology
• 20:41
  have that connection like to the dragon essentially.
• 20:46
  So again, like that was that was just the main like portion of
• 20:50
  it. And there's a lot, I know
• 20:53
  there's a lot of Dragons in professional wrestling that
• 20:55
  thought, well, how could I make my I got to make my my presence
• 21:01
  essentially my dragon persona, like stand out ascent basically
• 21:06
  because you got like American dragon, like this dragon, Shingo
• 21:10
  Takagi, the Rampage dragon. Eat the dragon Steamboat, Yeah.
• 21:13
  Yeah, the dragon. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:15
  It can't be the dragon. He's the dragon.
• 21:16
  He's the only the dragon. Yeah.
• 21:19
  And. And it was essentially just
• 21:22
  going, well, what's like a really kind of regal kind of
• 21:27
  like eye-catching presence or gold and, and, and it's like
• 21:32
  color gold anyway. So it just became the golden
• 21:35
  dragon. And that that just like kind of
• 21:38
  morphed into basically all of my gear with my logo, like my
• 21:42
  shorts and my tights and I'll see the mask.
• 21:45
  I don't just came together with that essentially.
• 21:49
  Mate, you pull it off. Who designed the mask, by the
• 21:51
  way? I don't know if I want to reveal
• 21:57
  but the mask actually is because it's less cool.
• 22:02
  Now, Joe, I know as an interview I should be asking the
• 22:05
  questions. Suppose I actually really like
• 22:07
  it and I don't want to, you know, when you used to go magic
• 22:10
  show you don't reveal too much, So I'm sorry.
• 22:12
  Listen I will, Tyson. I will tell you.
• 22:16
  Off the recording, off the record, I'll tell you.
• 22:20
  I will just tell the answer to the people I don't want to know
• 22:22
  I'm joking. But yeah, no, the the actual
• 22:27
  background of the mask is less extravagant than the mask
• 22:30
  itself. Although I did paint the mask
• 22:33
  myself. It's not much of A brag because
• 22:34
  it's only one color. Painted myself nice, so I'll
• 22:38
  take credit for that. It is cool man, I really like
• 22:41
  it. I think the attire is really
• 22:42
  cool as well, but the in ring style that you have, like I said
• 22:46
  before the break, you know, I've had the pleasure of calling some
• 22:48
  of your matches in DKW Academy this star.
• 22:51
  Do you feel that the MU tire background that you have has
• 22:55
  really enhanced your wrestling career, really benefited you
• 22:59
  when you it makes you stand out, doesn't it really?
• 23:02
  Not to take away from your opponents or anything, but just
• 23:04
  make you. Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 23:07
  Like not just not just in terms of the gear, Yeah, because like
• 23:12
  with the Muay Thai shorts, it's obviously very light wall.
• 23:15
  And then it's got like the it's got the yeah, like all like the
• 23:19
  decorations and everything on it.
• 23:21
  So it's very striking. But my actual like fighting
• 23:24
  style, my in ring style, I would say like for sure it's helped
• 23:28
  me. It's helped, it's helped me
• 23:30
  actually like discover an identity like in wrestling
• 23:35
  rather than because I no, I mean, no one ever wants to be
• 23:38
  just just another wrestler. Now there's anything wrong with
• 23:42
  that. You can just be a wrestler.
• 23:44
  If you're like really good and you can connect with the crowd,
• 23:48
  that's, you know, that's great. Like if you can do that with
• 23:51
  like, you know, really, you know, really simple things like
• 23:56
  that, that's great. That's what we should all be
• 23:57
  striving for. But it's also important to
• 23:59
  think, OK, I can do these things, but how can I do these
• 24:03
  things? And like some other things that
• 24:06
  are like relevant to me personally, like what am I
• 24:09
  really good at as well as, you know, the actual wrestling which
• 24:12
  everyone should be good at. And that's where I like, you
• 24:16
  know, took inspiration from my obviously my martial arts and
• 24:19
  gymnastics background, which I still train in obviously, and
• 24:23
  just just combine them. So my offense is predominantly
• 24:27
  striking and I mix in some high flying offense here and there,
• 24:31
  like handsprings and springboards like every now and
• 24:35
  again, like mixed in with the strikes and again, like you
• 24:39
  should find a Liger a bit of everything got a lot of
• 24:42
  suplexes, power moves like thrown in there.
• 24:45
  It's just like you said, like play around and basically be
• 24:48
  able to match up against pretty much anyone.
• 24:51
  So if they're like bigger than me, same size as me, smaller
• 24:54
  than me, you know, it's pretty rare, but it happens.
• 24:57
  Then you know I've got. You're ready to adapt, aren't
• 25:00
  you? I can adapt it, yeah, pretty
• 25:02
  much anything. So that's, that's another way
• 25:04
  that I think my style really helps and it's helped me stand
• 25:08
  out that no matter who I wrestle, it's, you know, I've
• 25:11
  always got something to show off.
• 25:14
  I do find the fans, like, don't get wrong, they do want to Boo
• 25:17
  you, but some of the stuff you do pull off in the ring, even
• 25:20
  you do hear them on the commentary, it's like, oh wow,
• 25:23
  that's really cool. Oh, I mean, Boo.
• 25:25
  Like, you know, they're so impressed with your star.
• 25:31
  Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's how I get them when I
• 25:33
  come out, you know, just, you know, shout in their face, you
• 25:37
  know, dismissing them like, you know, talking shit to one kid,
• 25:42
  you know, some, some dad or granddad in the back, like
• 25:45
  screaming out something, you know, just whatever.
• 25:48
  Like, and then I'll do some cool handspring heel kick or
• 25:53
  springboards like missile dropkick, moonsault, whatever.
• 25:56
  Then they'll start. Then they'll forget they hate
• 25:58
  me. But you don't.
• 26:00
  Yeah, I don't. I remind them.
• 26:02
  I hate, I hate you guys. I remind him after I do my cool
• 26:06
  move, I'm like, yeah, damn right, shut up.
• 26:10
  Exactly. Did I let you cheer me?
• 26:12
  Fuck off, I don't want. You cheer me.
• 26:14
  I don't want you cheer me. I know I'm cool.
• 26:16
  You don't have to applaud me. Don't have to cheer me.
• 26:19
  If you do want to make up to him though, you can buy as much he's
• 26:22
  got. Some sweets, yes,
• 26:24
  tysonkeaton.bigcartel.com where you can't find me at shows.
• 26:28
  Like a pro mate, like a pro. I like it.
• 26:32
  Just. Oh, what's that?
• 26:34
  What's that? What's T-shirt?
• 26:37
  Yeah, what? Have we got a fly on me?
• 26:39
  What? What?
• 26:42
  Marketing. Brilliant.
• 26:46
  I just I just found this. I just threw it on this old,
• 26:48
  this old thing. Just a few more questions mate
• 26:53
  and I'll let you enjoy the rest of your evening.
• 26:56
  I know we've discussed DKW Academy, but I know you've been
• 27:00
  part of our shows and companies. Tell me, what have been your
• 27:03
  career highlights so far? Got to emphasize on so far.
• 27:07
  So far, yes. Well, we've already talked about
• 27:09
  my my favorite match this year with Raymond at Bringing Pro
• 27:12
  Wrestling. That's that's always been fun.
• 27:14
  I've been on. Well, yeah, every single show
• 27:18
  they've had since they started in October 2023.
• 27:23
  I want to say, yeah, just just under 2 years.
• 27:26
  That's when they started. So like, wrestling with them has
• 27:28
  been really fun and I've been working a lot more with SOS.
• 27:33
  They're based in Essex as well, based in Harwich, and I've been
• 27:37
  doing all the stuff with them here and there whenever they
• 27:39
  come down, like further South, close to me, like slightly
• 27:43
  further away. And I'll be debuting for the
• 27:46
  Charter Hall show on the 28th of September.
• 27:50
  Oh, in Colchester? Yes.
• 27:51
  Nice. Yeah, that'll be my.
• 27:53
  That'll be the largest crowd that I've worked in front of so
• 27:56
  far is. That the one with Scott Tihotie
• 27:58
  or Rhino? Yes, yes, nice Rhino.
• 28:00
  Rhino was on the last one. It's.
• 28:01
  Got on this one. Yes, on that on that show, I
• 28:04
  think they pretty much like had a legit sell out for that one.
• 28:07
  And this one's shaped up to be like still just as good.
• 28:10
  So that'll be fun. Yeah.
• 28:11
  Scott Tihotie and his son in A tag team match, I believe.
• 28:14
  I don't think it's announced yet, but they normally tag
• 28:17
  together. That's sweet mate.
• 28:19
  Sweet bit of Wrestleforce as well.
• 28:21
  You made your debut about a year or two ago, didn't you?
• 28:23
  Maybe. Yeah, yeah, back in November,
• 28:25
  Yeah, Debut with Wrestleforce, Yeah, like to get in with them
• 28:28
  and UKPW. I recently.
• 28:31
  Debuted this year, done a couple of shows.
• 28:33
  Really like to be a regular if I can with them.
• 28:37
  They're really fun. They're really fun to work with.
• 28:40
  Before I ask my famous question, if you wants to return the
• 28:43
  podcast, let's say next 2-3 years, what would you personally
• 28:48
  like to have achieved in that time period?
• 28:55
  I think I know what I if I had to assume, I think Japan, but I
• 28:59
  know. That's, that's, that's, that's
• 29:02
  that's been on my bucket list since since I started wrestling,
• 29:04
  to be honest. Yeah, that's always there.
• 29:06
  Yeah, yeah. Nothing, yeah, nothing too
• 29:10
  out-of-the-box. Like not like I say like, oh,
• 29:12
  it's going to be New Japan or nothing like Noah, but for sure
• 29:18
  wrestle in Japan. I think, I think just wrestle,
• 29:22
  yeah, wrestle in Japan slash internationally, like by, you
• 29:27
  know, in the next two or three years for sure.
• 29:29
  Like I think I should be able to achieve that.
• 29:32
  If I wasn't better, man, I'd put good money on that.
• 29:35
  Thank you. Yes, and another medium long
• 29:39
  term goal as well is to essentially be wrestling every
• 29:44
  week, every weekend. It doesn't matter where, just
• 29:47
  like that. I want that kind of consistent
• 29:50
  schedule like getting my name out there no matter where it is
• 29:53
  like you know you know DKW, Wrestleforce, UKPWSOS, Catch 22
• 29:59
  for that to mention them. I train with them as well.
• 30:02
  They do shows in greys so every now and again and of course ref
• 30:07
  pro. I trained at Ref Pro at London
• 30:09
  School, so ref Pro is definitely definitely a.
• 30:15
  Goal. I don't see why not.
• 30:16
  I'll put it that way. Yeah, I'm not just saying it's
• 30:18
  podcaster, but I'm saying it's a fan as well.
• 30:20
  I just don't see why not. That's what I say, yeah.
• 30:23
  One day on purpose. Purpose Wrestling in London.
• 30:26
  Purpose. Yeah, we can use this quote in
• 30:29
  2-3 years time and I think that would be achieved.
• 30:30
  I'm just saying. Yeah, hopefully don't jinx it.
• 30:34
  Come back in five years and I'm still at DKW.
• 30:37
  Lucas is just literally never going to allow me to speak to
• 30:40
  anyone from DKW now. I see.
• 30:45
  No, not really. Yeah, so you're saying about
• 30:48
  purpose as well? Yeah, basically, yeah, just try
• 30:50
  and debut purpose. Like I feel nothing's nothing's
• 30:55
  set in stone yet. Nothing's official, but I feel,
• 30:58
  I feel that that will happen sooner, sooner or later.
• 31:01
  So that's great, man. Last question, the famous
• 31:04
  question. This doesn't have to be
• 31:06
  resonated. It's up to you, Tyson.
• 31:07
  You are going to be the host. 3 dream dinner guests for your
• 31:11
  dream party. They can be dead.
• 31:13
  They can be alive. Past present, fiction,
• 31:15
  nonfiction. But I want 3 guests.
• 31:19
  Quick reason as to why you want them there.
• 31:20
  Give me #1 Tyson go. Well, it's gonna be juicing
• 31:25
  Thunder Liger, because he's the man.
• 31:28
  In question, why not? In costume, Yes.
• 31:32
  In yes. Come on.
• 31:34
  Then what we're doing here if he's not in.
• 31:35
  Costume otherwise, otherwise it's just just some, just some
• 31:38
  nice, nice, funny old Japanese man.
• 31:40
  And that's nice. But that's not just my I want
• 31:43
  to, I want to do the Mandeliger at my dinner party.
• 31:46
  But yeah, it's got to be him. The guest of honour, Bruce Lee.
• 31:54
  Yeah, because we were talking about me being a martial artist
• 31:58
  and a lot of my inspirations come from, you know, Japanese
• 32:01
  wrestling and movies, video games, and then obviously
• 32:06
  particularly Bruce Lee, which is the inspiration for my other
• 32:11
  name, Big Boss. So for sure Bruce Lee and. #3.
• 32:24
  #3. A final guest.
• 32:27
  Should have thought about this more dead or alive as well,
• 32:32
  right? Yeah.
• 32:36
  I'm, I'm just trying to keep it. I keep thinking keeping it
• 32:39
  wrestling related. I'm trying to think of like
• 32:41
  million wrestlers. What about one of The Muppets?
• 32:46
  You stood up for them earlier. That's.
• 32:48
  One of The Muppets. Yeah, Kermit.
• 32:50
  Epic, Deuce and Liger. Deuce and Liger, Bruce Lee and
• 32:55
  Cover the Frog. Yeah, sick.
• 32:58
  Yeah, I think that's a good idea for some merch or maybe get
• 33:01
  worth the licensing, but you know.
• 33:03
  I just change the colours of them and change the.
• 33:05
  Names. You're so weird.
• 33:07
  Yeah, like Fermit the crog. And he's orange.
• 33:11
  There you go, love it. See that being a gimmick in DKW
• 33:13
  actually. Don't you don't.
• 33:16
  Don't say that because Lucas will do it.
• 33:19
  You know the debut and you'll be the opponent.
• 33:22
  Lucas. There's some ideas for you,
• 33:23
  mate. I want some cash on that one.
• 33:25
  Yeah, I want, I want double for that booking.
• 33:29
  Tyson, been a great chat with you.
• 33:31
  We plugged the sweet merch that you have.
• 33:34
  They may see it at some shows if they're lucky enough to still be
• 33:38
  at the end, but where can they also find you on social media so
• 33:42
  they can keep up to date with what you've got lined up for the
• 33:44
  rest? Of the year, yes.
• 33:46
  So my Instagram is Tyson Keaton, big Boss, and I've also got a
• 33:51
  Facebook which is just Tyson Keaton and I put in my BIOS
• 33:56
  mainly on my Instagram is more active than my Facebook.
• 33:58
  So follow me on Instagram. I always list the upcoming dates
• 34:02
  that I'm doing shows on so for the for the rest of the month,
• 34:06
  so September, I think at this point to SOS.
• 34:12
  So on the 20th, I'm at Sawbridgeworth.
• 34:15
  Then like I said before, on the 28th is the Colchester charts
• 34:19
  all show. It's a really cool venue.
• 34:20
  By the way. Have you been there?
• 34:22
  The charts all Yeah. No, I've seen pictures, though.
• 34:24
  It's cool. It's cool, yeah.
• 34:26
  Very cool. Very big.
• 34:28
  It's a good venue mate so good luck to that show.
• 34:30
  I'm sure I will see you at DKW Academy soon.
• 34:34
  Not sure what the match will be but I look forward to seeing you
• 34:36
  there and just seeing what you got lined up as well.
• 34:39
  But I'll keep you up to say what you got lined up.
• 34:41
  Thank you for coming on. This is actually Tyson's first
• 34:44
  interview. You would never actually believe
• 34:45
  it as well because you're so confident was broken.
• 34:48
  And he? Was able to like that sweet
• 34:51
  match before I did mate, so I'm proud of you mate.
• 34:54
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