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Are Modern Rock Collaborations Just Desperate Nostalgia Traps? · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_00: Hey, it's Alec from AYA and you're watching CMS-TV.
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[music]
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SPEAKER_01: From the Mob Rules release,
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SPEAKER_01: that of course is Black Sabbath with the Sign of
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SPEAKER_01: the Southern Cross featuring Ronnie James Dio on lead vocal.
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SPEAKER_01: That one going out by request to my nephew James.
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SPEAKER_01: A couple Whitesnake tunes in there.
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SPEAKER_01: Some early Whitesnake with Steal Away for Hardy Boy.
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SPEAKER_01: Also Whitesnake from the Slide It In release with Love Ain't No Stranger for Jackal.
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SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_03: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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SPEAKER_03: Jack will pick something as modern as the mid-80s?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, believe it or not.
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SPEAKER_03: That can't be right.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Must have a younger cousin or something.
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SPEAKER_01: He fell through a time warp.
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SPEAKER_03: He escaped that 70s vortex he lives in for a minute.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It was in one of the episodes of Stranger Things.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, it must have been.
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SPEAKER_03: That must be it.
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SPEAKER_01: He was in The Upside Down.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Rush in there with Bastille Day for John Phillips.
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SPEAKER_01: Montrose with Space Station No.
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SPEAKER_01: 5 for Roger.
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SPEAKER_01: And, of course,
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SPEAKER_01: kicking off that block was something for Chris, Audrey Horn with Goddamn Beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_01: So kind of a rock block of classic-sounding tunes, including that Audrey Horn.
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SPEAKER_03: I love that, man.
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SPEAKER_03: And it's weird because the guy that I talked to,
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SPEAKER_03: Arve, Arve Dale, He's also the guitar player for the band Enslaved.
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SPEAKER_03: So he goes from this brutal heavy band to that.
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SPEAKER_03: And that band is apparently popular as shit in Europe.
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SPEAKER_03: That Audrey Horn, I guess they're a headlining act in Europe.
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SPEAKER_03: And they toured with ACDC and Motley Crue.
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SPEAKER_03: And I guess they're a big band.
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SPEAKER_03: But here in the States, they can't give anything away.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I just like that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like Kurt Vanderhoof doing his Metal Church and then doing his Presto Ballet.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Exactly right.
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SPEAKER_03: Same exact thing.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, we are into the second segment of the Classic Metal Show.
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SPEAKER_01: So what do you have, Chris?
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SPEAKER_01: I've got plenty, oh, plenty.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm going to start out with answering a question that you and I asked,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know, a month or two ago.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you remember,
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SPEAKER_03: it might even have been longer,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't remember when this was,
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SPEAKER_03: but it was,
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SPEAKER_03: remember we were playing the video of Steelheart and Jeff,
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SPEAKER_03: of Mealy Medejevic and Jeff Keith doing the Foghat cover?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: And you remember how we were,
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SPEAKER_03: as we were talking through it,
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SPEAKER_03: we were like, what the hell would make these guys do this?
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SPEAKER_03: Do you remember that?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you know,
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SPEAKER_01: we often question just odd pairings like that and odd choices of, you know, tunes.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just like, so what prompted this?
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SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: So I talked with Mealy this week about,
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SPEAKER_03: he's promoting that Bad Finger cover that we played,
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SPEAKER_03: what, last two weeks ago or whatever?
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: And I talked to him about that,
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SPEAKER_03: but then I was like,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: let me ask you about this and that and, you know, a couple of other things.
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SPEAKER_03: And I asked him specifically about that.
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SPEAKER_03: So I put the clip together.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me put it on the screen here.
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SPEAKER_03: So here is Mili Medejevic of Steelheart explaining how he hooked up with Jeff Keith.
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SPEAKER_03: And why they did this Foghat cover.
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SPEAKER_03: Because now we have an answer, at least.
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SPEAKER_03: It's always good if I...
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SPEAKER_03: I try real hard when I have guys like this that I've interviewed a bunch of times,
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SPEAKER_03: if we've talked about them,
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SPEAKER_03: to kind of remember what we talked about a little bit so
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SPEAKER_03: that we can get some questions answered.
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SPEAKER_03: We want answers, goddammit.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, we do talk about these bands,
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SPEAKER_03: so we might as well...
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SPEAKER_03: You know, I got them on the phone or on the screen or whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: I might as well ask them, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So here's Melee from Steelheart talking about how the, what's the song?
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SPEAKER_03: I just can't, what is the song?
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SPEAKER_03: I just want to make love to you.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: I asked him about doing that Foghat song with Jeff Keith and here's the answer.
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SPEAKER_03: Start with the fog hat song that you did with with Jeff Keith.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, how did that come together?
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm imagining,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: Keith from Jeff from down the road,
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SPEAKER_03: but how did you end up bringing him in into work with you?
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SPEAKER_02: You know, so I met Jeff on the Monsters of Rock like five years ago.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And as soon as we met, we just connected.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like, we're done.
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SPEAKER_02: We're brothers.
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SPEAKER_02: It's over.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like a lifetime thing, you know?
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SPEAKER_02: And so we hung out quite a bit and then we kept in touch.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I was doing the Monsters of Rock.
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SPEAKER_02: I was doing an acoustic set.
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SPEAKER_02: It was the last year.
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SPEAKER_02: Last year, at the end of the year?
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SPEAKER_02: I can't remember anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyways, recently.
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SPEAKER_02: He was on it as well.
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SPEAKER_02: And as soon as I saw him, I said, Jeff, listen, man, why don't we do a song together?
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SPEAKER_02: Like two bros having a blast, two guys going in there rock and roll.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: A duet.
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SPEAKER_02: And he goes, I like it, Milly.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
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SPEAKER_02: What do you want to do?
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SPEAKER_02: What song do you want to do?
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SPEAKER_02: I said, let's do a Foghat song.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like, great.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm doing an acoustic set.
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SPEAKER_02: On the boat.
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SPEAKER_02: They had an off night.
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SPEAKER_02: And what does he do?
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SPEAKER_02: He jumps up on stage.
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SPEAKER_02: And he just starts singing, you know, I don't want to be no slave.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I start singing that.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I sang a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, there it is.
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SPEAKER_02: Everybody's our witness.
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SPEAKER_02: We're doing that song.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: So I tell him, listen, I'll get it together.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me produce it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll get it going.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'll call you when I'm ready.
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SPEAKER_02: So I call him.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe a couple of weeks after the boat, Monsters of the Rock cruise.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, so I called him on a Sunday.
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SPEAKER_02: And I only had the drums and the guitars on.
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SPEAKER_02: Like rough, these were just, the drums were done, but the guitars were rough.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, just to get, see how the vibe is gonna go.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: I call him and say, hey Jeff, when can you come down?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking maybe a couple of weeks or whatever, you know, get myself prepared.
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SPEAKER_02: He goes, I'll be there Wednesday.
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SPEAKER_02: So, but I'm smart enough not to say no.
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SPEAKER_03: Right,
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SPEAKER_02: right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't want to, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: That could be like, you say, you know how that works.
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SPEAKER_02: Two years go by.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was like, fine.
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SPEAKER_02: Pick them up Wednesday.
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SPEAKER_02: We came in my studio here and we sang and sang and sang and sang.
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SPEAKER_02: I got to tell you, we were done the first day.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: But kept singing.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: We're just enjoying ourselves.
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SPEAKER_02: And Jeff just loves to sing and just keeps going.
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SPEAKER_02: I go, Millie, let me do another take.
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SPEAKER_02: I want to do another take.
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SPEAKER_02: I go, Jeff, we got 15 of them we got to choose from.
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SPEAKER_02: They're all good.
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SPEAKER_02: Which one do you want to do?
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SPEAKER_02: He goes, no, I can do it better.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, fuck.
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SPEAKER_02: There's that short one.
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SPEAKER_03: There it is.
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SPEAKER_02: But I will say this.
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SPEAKER_02: He stayed with me.
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SPEAKER_02: And we did nothing but laugh.
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SPEAKER_02: That was a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_02: And we recorded it, came out.
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SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed it.
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SPEAKER_02: I really think we did a good job.
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SPEAKER_02: And then he came back out.
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SPEAKER_02: We did a photo shoot.
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SPEAKER_02: And during the photo shoot, I was like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: We should shoot a video.
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SPEAKER_02: So I told the photographer,
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SPEAKER_02: why don't you just turn on that thing into a video camera now
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SPEAKER_02: and let's just shoot it.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, good camera.
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SPEAKER_03: So there you go.
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SPEAKER_03: That's basically it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But there's our answer.
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SPEAKER_03: So apparently they met on the Rock Monsters of Rock Cruise.
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SPEAKER_03: Hello, friends.
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SPEAKER_03: Hello, friend.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you know,
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SPEAKER_01: those kind of things,
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SPEAKER_01: just to use a term that Chris Bacon used to use quite a bit,
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SPEAKER_01: those things come together organically.
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SPEAKER_01: They do.
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SPEAKER_01: And that apparently was one of the times that you just sort of have a kindred spirit
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SPEAKER_01: when you meet somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Kind of like you and I did when we first got together on the mic for the first time.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: we tell the story in the book,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: our version of it when Chris and I first got on the mic together for the first time.
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SPEAKER_01: And it just clicked.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was pretty immediate.
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SPEAKER_01: It was immediate, and it just worked.
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SPEAKER_01: And, you know, here it is 30 years later, and it still works as far as I'm concerned.
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SPEAKER_01: But anyway,
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SPEAKER_01: getting back to Jeff Keith and Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Menagevic there,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, they obviously had that chemistry, that thing that worked.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: When you get along with somebody,
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SPEAKER_01: especially musically,
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SPEAKER_01: these musicians have a kinship in the fact that this is their livelihood.
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SPEAKER_01: This is all they know.
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SPEAKER_01: This is what they've done.
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SPEAKER_01: They just have an appreciation for each other's talents and abilities.
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SPEAKER_01: And obviously, Mike, you know, I'm just not used to calling a melee.
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SPEAKER_03: I know.
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SPEAKER_03: Dude, let me find this room.
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SPEAKER_01: He's Mike Menagevic as far as I'm concerned.
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SPEAKER_01: Me too.
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SPEAKER_01: And I saw your little post that you've never been a Steelheart fan.
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SPEAKER_01: I really never was.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been a Steelheart fan since I first heard him, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: But regardless of that, I met Mike almost two years ago.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's Malenko, please.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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11:02
SPEAKER_01: I met him.
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SPEAKER_01: He was opening for Warrant, Dockin, and April Wine.
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SPEAKER_01: And I met him backstage and chit-chatted up with him for a few minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: But getting back to his story, though,
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SPEAKER_01: it's just cool that these guys have the ability to,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: just get together and just hang out and do something that they love together.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, he's a he's the coolest guy.
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SPEAKER_03: He's one of the coolest guys that I interview and I'll interview him.
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SPEAKER_03: I told him after the interview, we're talking a little bit.
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SPEAKER_03: He has a new project getting ready to come out with Nicholas from In Flames.
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SPEAKER_03: It's going to be just like he said, it sounds like In Flames with him singing over it.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, my God, take my money.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm all about that.
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SPEAKER_03: But yeah, he's just one of the good ones.
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SPEAKER_03: And I could see Jeff Keith,
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SPEAKER_03: who's another one of the good ones,
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SPEAKER_03: I could see those two just getting together and be like, yeah, this is fun.
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SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah, let's do it.
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SPEAKER_03: Dude, I'm going to share one more thing that I should have actually edited this out.
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SPEAKER_03: It's so bad.
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SPEAKER_03: You know as well as I do, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Every once in a while, you come across a name or something that you just can't say.
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SPEAKER_03: And his is that name that I always fuck up.
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SPEAKER_03: And I fucked his name up so bad in this interview.
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SPEAKER_03: And he rolled with it, so I rolled with it.
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SPEAKER_03: But this is one of the all-time butcherings from me.
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SPEAKER_03: And you know me, I don't give a shit if people say it or not.
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SPEAKER_03: So check out his name.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, here, I'll play the ID first.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll back it all the way up so you can hear the ID.
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SPEAKER_03: And then I'll play the ID.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me put it on the screen.
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SPEAKER_03: And then I'll play the intro where you can hear me doing his name,
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SPEAKER_03: which is two very different things.
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SPEAKER_03: Check this out.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, everybody out there, this is Millie from Steelheart.
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SPEAKER_02: You are watching CMS-TV.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, he didn't do it.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it's like Milyenko...
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SPEAKER_03: Metavetic or something like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I just fucked it completely.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean completely.
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SPEAKER_03: Check this out.
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SPEAKER_03: Today on the show,
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SPEAKER_03: we are having a returning guest,
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SPEAKER_03: one of my favorite guys in all of the business, whose voice is beyond extraordinary.
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SPEAKER_03: And he is back with a very, very, very tough song to sing.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, just me as a lousy karaoke singer, I would never attempt this song.
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SPEAKER_03: Way too much for me, but when you've got a four octave range, I guess nothing is scary.
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SPEAKER_03: He's of course promoting the cover of Bad Fingers Without You.
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SPEAKER_03: And we'll talk about other things as well.
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SPEAKER_03: He is the lead vocalist of Steelheart.
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SPEAKER_03: He is Miljanko Medvedic.
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SPEAKER_03: Mealy, how are you, man?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm doing well.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_03: I just swung and missed.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you just glossed right over it.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm just like, there you is.
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SPEAKER_03: That is one of the worst fuck-ups I've ever had.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not an easy name to pronounce.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not.
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SPEAKER_03: No, it's not.
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SPEAKER_03: But man, that is brutal.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's Mike Medejevic.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's go back to that.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's just go back to that.
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SPEAKER_03: And boy, let me just back that up a little bit.
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SPEAKER_03: I got to play it one more time.
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SPEAKER_03: I just butcher it so bad.
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SPEAKER_03: I literally,
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SPEAKER_03: you can hear me just trying to just mumble it so
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SPEAKER_03: that he can't hear how I'm fucking up his name.
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SPEAKER_03: He's, of course,
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SPEAKER_03: promoting the cover of Bad Fingers Without You,
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SPEAKER_03: and we'll talk about other things as well.
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SPEAKER_03: He is the lead vocalist of Steelheart.
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SPEAKER_03: He is Miljanko Medvedic.
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SPEAKER_03: Mili, how
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SPEAKER_01: are you?
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SPEAKER_01: Miljanko.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not as bad as you think it sounds.
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SPEAKER_01: I hate it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure, but I mean...
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SPEAKER_01: Just the average listener.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they won't know.
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SPEAKER_01: They won't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, but you're really putting a spotlight on it,
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SPEAKER_01: and it's really not as bad as you think it is.
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SPEAKER_03: But still, I just knew.
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SPEAKER_03: I knew when I did it, it was fucked up.
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SPEAKER_03: You can see, look at the look on my face.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_01: This is one of those things that you hear, and it's 10 times worse in your own head.
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SPEAKER_01: Then, you know, the average person who's just listening to the interview.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't even think two seconds about it.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Skippy in the chat room.
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SPEAKER_01: Eh, close enough, Chris.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like nobody would even think that you fucked it up.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I did.
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SPEAKER_03: I was like, ugh.
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SPEAKER_03: But the worst part is I fucked it up every time I've done...
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SPEAKER_03: The last time I was even...
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:25
SPEAKER_03: And it's like you take a shot or you just say,
16:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
16:30
SPEAKER_03: when we're reading a story, we can go, you know, it's Muhammad blah, blah, blah.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: Or some name I can't pronounce.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you just say it.
16:38
SPEAKER_03: I can't say that to him.
16:39
SPEAKER_03: I can't be like, well, here's the guy from Steelheart.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: How you doing, bro?
16:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, I can't do that either.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: So I took a swing and I felt like I missed.
16:49
SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's a foul ball instead of a pure miss, but it wasn't real pleasant.
16:55
SPEAKER_03: I was not happy with myself, but I think you're probably right.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm probably making more out of it than it is, but whatever.
17:04
SPEAKER_03: You want to be good with this shit.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: Of course you do, and especially when you're face-to-face with the guy.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: Especially when you like the guy.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: And you don't want to flub up their name.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
17:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: That's, that's, I was just waiting for him to, to be like, dude, seriously.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: He's a, he's a small guy too.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Is he?
17:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: He, you know, very, very slight of frame, just kind of a smaller guy, you know, but very nice.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I,
17:32
SPEAKER_01: I chatted it up with him for a little bit,
17:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, and, uh,
17:37
SPEAKER_01: first time I ever met him,
17:38
SPEAKER_01: first time I actually saw a steel heart perform, you know, so it was, it was good.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how I miss Steelheart, but I just kind of did.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that was when you were in Korea.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's probably it.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: But he's huge in Asia.
17:53
SPEAKER_03: Surprising that I wouldn't have seen him there.
17:55
SPEAKER_03: But I don't know.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
17:58
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
17:59
SPEAKER_03: There was a lot of those bands that I didn't really listen to much.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: You know, the Firehouse and Steelheart and whatever.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: But I like Steelheart now.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: I listen to them actually...
18:10
SPEAKER_03: You know,
18:11
SPEAKER_03: I've really toned down on a lot of the bands that everybody listens to over and
18:14
SPEAKER_03: over, like Motley Crue or Poison or Warrant or any of that stuff.
18:18
SPEAKER_03: And when I go to, like,
18:20
SPEAKER_03: hair metal mode,
18:21
SPEAKER_03: it's always like Firehouse or Steelheart or these bands that I didn't burn out on.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: You know,
18:27
SPEAKER_03: and Steelheart's one of those I'm like,
18:29
SPEAKER_03: God damn it,
18:30
SPEAKER_03: I wish I would have been listening to that in the 90s because that was pretty good.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: So...
18:35
SPEAKER_03: But instead I moved over to Cannibal Corpse and other pleasant sounding tunes like that.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Well, that was just to numb your anger.
18:45
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Or stoke your anger, one or the other.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: Match it.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: I want to kill your mother.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: I need her fucking heart.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: I need something to level me out.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: All right, let's move forward.
19:02
SPEAKER_03: I know that's just a little quick one.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: Well, I got one more quick one for you.
19:07
SPEAKER_03: Friend of the show,
19:08
SPEAKER_03: friend of yours,
19:09
SPEAKER_03: friend of mine,
19:10
SPEAKER_03: Stephen Piercy,
19:12
SPEAKER_03: released a trailer or a teaser for a new single off of The Dog Mob called,
19:21
SPEAKER_03: I forget what it's called.
19:25
SPEAKER_03: It is called All Night Long.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: Let me share this.
19:32
SPEAKER_03: Let me pop this up.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: And here it is.
19:36
SPEAKER_03: Already playing, I guess.
19:39
SPEAKER_03: Let's kick it back to the beginning here.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: So here it is.
19:42
SPEAKER_03: Steven Piercy with whatever this is.
19:50
SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
19:55
SPEAKER_03: Where's the song?
20:01
SPEAKER_00: All night.
20:40
SPEAKER_03: So there you go, a little taste.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, God, that's great.
20:42
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Stephen.
20:46
SPEAKER_03: This thing, what is it doing?
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, I like the snippet.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sounds good.
20:54
SPEAKER_03: Good high energy.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm assuming that means we're going to get the full song this week, I would think.
21:00
SPEAKER_03: So...
21:02
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, so Steven's getting ready to release the dog mob at some point here.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: All right.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: I guess at that point we'll probably have to have Steven or Eric or both on
21:11
SPEAKER_03: the show, don't you think?
21:12
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
21:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: When I saw Steven, what,
21:18
SPEAKER_01: a few weeks ago and sat there in his dressing room shooting the shit with him for
21:23
SPEAKER_01: a few minutes.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: He's Steven.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: Steven's a character, man.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: He's just funny.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: He is a funny guy.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: He always makes me laugh.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: He's just funny.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: You know,
21:36
SPEAKER_01: when their road manager took me to his dressing room first,
21:41
SPEAKER_01: and I went in and hung out with him for a few minutes and shot the shit.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: And then went over and hung out with Eric and met Joel Holkstra and chatted it up
21:51
SPEAKER_01: with Blas Elias.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
21:54
SPEAKER_01: we were doing almost the same thing we did in the first hour here,
21:57
SPEAKER_01: talking about health.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Supplements and dietary and workouts.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Because we're all in the same age group.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Eric being a little bit younger.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Right.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: But he suffered a heart attack.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: So he's got to be on his game, taking care of himself and so on and so forth.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: But then we were sitting in the, I guess you would call it the catering room.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And we were just sitting at the table,
22:29
SPEAKER_01: just, you know, Eating a few things that they had on the cater.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: And Steven just comes in and he starts picking through everything on there.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: And he just starts grabbing up stuff because he's like, I'm ready to go back to the hotel.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: So I'm taking this, this, this, and this.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: We might as well.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: It's his tray.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: But it's just kind of funny, though.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: He was just, you know, I'm not sticking around, but I'm taking this shit to go.
23:00
SPEAKER_03: What's funny is he probably eats like two carrots a day.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
23:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you see how skinny he is.
23:04
SPEAKER_03: He's so small.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: I know, for 69 years old, 70 years old.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: 70-something, yeah.
23:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's starting to get old-looking a little bit.
23:15
SPEAKER_03: He's definitely starting to look his age a little bit.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's looking a little leathery.
23:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, whatever.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: He's been doing it, what, 50 fucking years or something.
23:24
SPEAKER_03: So I guess he can adopt that look, I guess, so.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: It's just kind of funny that he,
23:32
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:33
SPEAKER_01: from being,
23:35
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure the party days of Rat to,
23:38
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:39
SPEAKER_01: during his solo days and arcade and doing his own solo shows and,
23:44
SPEAKER_01: you know, getting back with Rat and stuff.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: But, you know,
23:47
SPEAKER_01: he gradually went from,
23:49
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:49
SPEAKER_01: the partying,
23:50
SPEAKER_01: drinking,
23:51
SPEAKER_01: potentially drugging down to,
23:55
SPEAKER_01: No drinking, no drugging, no partying, you know, dealing with a cancer scare.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: Down to just smoking a cigarette, down to nothing.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: Right.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, so he's like doing nothing because just a few years ago, what was it?
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, when Smash came out, that was like, what, 17, I think?
24:21
SPEAKER_01: I think so, yeah.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: 2017.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: So it's almost been 10 years already.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: But he was smoking a cigarette and he goes, this is the only thing I've got.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: And I don't even think he smokes now anymore.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
24:36
SPEAKER_01: No.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Does he still smoke pot?
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't, that I can't answer.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the answer.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: I've never seen him do it, but I, you know, again, but it's just kind of funny.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: But now he just, just clean and sober.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Good for him.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: At 69 years old.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: Well, at least he's not like some of these other dummies that we hear that are like
24:57
SPEAKER_03: the same age and they're still doing Blow and whatever.
24:59
SPEAKER_03: It's like, what are you doing?
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Fucking idiots.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: I know.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: All right.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: Next one I'm going to bring up.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to, we'll play some of the songs.
25:08
SPEAKER_03: I like this song.
25:10
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know,
25:12
SPEAKER_03: I don't know anything really about,
25:16
SPEAKER_03: because it's a guy from Alice Cooper, I really don't know shit about him.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: There's a band called Crossbone Scully.
25:24
SPEAKER_03: Are you aware of this band?
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Who was it telling me about them?
25:29
SPEAKER_01: Somebody had sent me a link to it.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: Somebody must have sent me a link to it.
25:36
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: I didn't know really shit about it.
25:40
SPEAKER_03: It's Tommy Hendrickson from Alice Cooper and Hollywood Vampires,
25:43
SPEAKER_03: and it's a cool song,
25:44
SPEAKER_03: and it's They did a song with Phil Collin from Def Leppard,
25:50
SPEAKER_03: and they got Mutt Lang to produce it, which is pretty cool.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, when you hear the song, it sounds like a Def Leppard song.
25:56
SPEAKER_03: Sure, it does.
25:57
SPEAKER_03: It's very obvious that Phil is playing on it and Mutt is producing it.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: There's no question.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: It's like having David Foster produce your song and having it sound like 1980s Chicago.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Because these guys have their own sound that they inject into anything that they produce.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
26:17
SPEAKER_03: Well, the reason I'm bringing this to the table is not about the song or the band or anything.
26:25
SPEAKER_03: I got nothing bad to say about these guys at all.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: But I certainly got a couple of thoughts about the press release.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Because this is a doozy of a doozy of the press release.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: This is...
26:40
SPEAKER_03: I know we make fun of it a lot, and we know it's all AI and whatever.
26:44
SPEAKER_03: This one is, this takes the cake.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: This might be the all-time silliest one ever.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: Let me put it here on the screen.
26:52
SPEAKER_03: Check this out.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Share the screen.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: All right.
26:56
SPEAKER_03: Crossbone Scully recruits Def Leppard's Phil Collin and legendary producer Mutt Lang
27:02
SPEAKER_03: for Thunder Love single.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: That sounds good.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: But listen to this.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: Crossbone Scully has released a brand new single,
27:11
SPEAKER_03: Thunder Love,
27:12
SPEAKER_03: that features Def Leppard's Phil Collin,
27:16
SPEAKER_03: capturing a thunder-shaking midnight encounter between two sinners.
27:22
SPEAKER_03: The song is a shot of lightning and lust-fueled chemistry,
27:27
SPEAKER_03: delivering the first strike from Crossbone Scully's upcoming sophomore album,
27:33
SPEAKER_03: Condemned to Rock and Roll, to be made available by Ear Music.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: What in the fuck?
27:44
SPEAKER_03: All you need is the guy that reads it and goes, in a world.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: That's a hell of a sentence, isn't it?
27:55
SPEAKER_03: It's jam-packed with adjectives.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: And just a shot of lightning and lust-fueled chemistry.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: What?
28:06
SPEAKER_03: What?
28:08
SPEAKER_03: What does that even mean?
28:10
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, what does that mean?
28:13
SPEAKER_03: What is a shot of lightning and lust-fueled chemistry?
28:18
SPEAKER_01: It's hot and passionate love.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Is it?
28:24
SPEAKER_01: It's lusty urges just exploding together.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: Wonderful.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: Let me read a little more.
28:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not all of it is this, but it's just like, Jesus Christ.
28:36
SPEAKER_03: Fronted by Tommy Hendrickson of Alice Cooper and the Hollywood Vampires,
28:41
SPEAKER_03: Crossbone Scully is
28:42
SPEAKER_03: a gritty hard rock band featuring fellow Alice Cooper guitarist Anna Blackthorn Cara
28:50
SPEAKER_03: and a revolving cast of...
28:53
SPEAKER_03: And a revolving cast of rock and roll misfits,
28:56
SPEAKER_03: teaming up with Colin and the legendary producer Robert John Mutt Lang,
29:01
SPEAKER_03: Hendrickson has crafted the perfect storm on Thunder Love.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: The perfect storm.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: The track also features the powerhouse studio drumming from Glenn Sobel
29:13
SPEAKER_03: of Alice Cooper and the Hollywood Vampires,
29:16
SPEAKER_03: whose thunderous performance helps drive the song's explosive energy.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: How many times are they going to throw the word thunder in there?
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Thunder is all over this thing.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: And the name of the song is Thunder.
29:28
SPEAKER_03: Thunder love.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: My point.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: So it's like, how many times are they going to throw thunder in there?
29:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's thunder love.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: It's thunder shaking.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: It's thunderous.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: Thunder thighs.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no shit.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: Just.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: Again, I'll play the song here.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to read the rest of this junk, but.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: I'll play the song.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: The song is fine.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: It's just that press release is just retarded.
29:54
SPEAKER_03: Just bad.
29:56
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31:37
SPEAKER_00: And lightning coming round before the thunder.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: Supersonic blast begun to stun you.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: And I strike.
31:50
And my
31:57
SPEAKER_00: backs will light the dark.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: And I strike.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: And I strike.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard guys have a sound, don't they?
32:33
SPEAKER_01: They got the big drum sound.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: They got the background vocal thing going on.
32:39
SPEAKER_03: This sounds like an outtake from Hysteria.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: It does.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: It really does.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: It sounds like a scratch track.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, Def Leppard is recording this song, but they just got a scratch track here.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they got a roadie or something to sing on it or something.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: And I noticed that since Phil Lewis has a whole new look,
32:59
SPEAKER_01: this guy decided to take the Phil Lewis look.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: He took the Phil Pirate look.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: I guess that's Crossbone Scully, right?
33:06
SPEAKER_03: Is that a pirate thing, maybe?
33:08
SPEAKER_03: I suppose.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you want a little more of this?
33:11
SPEAKER_03: Sure, why not?
33:11
SPEAKER_03: It's not a bad song.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: It sounds like Def Leppard.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not a bad song.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, classic Def Leppard.
33:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
33:19
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
33:51
Strang.
34:33
SPEAKER_03: I want to get so excitable.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: It's like the same guitar solo, even.
34:43
SPEAKER_03: Again, don't hate it.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: By any means, don't hate it.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: But it really is Def Leppardy.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not breaking any new ground at all.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think they're trying to.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: It's a very familiar sounding song.
34:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but not bad.
34:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean...
35:00
SPEAKER_03: We get a lot worse through here.
35:02
SPEAKER_03: How could it be bad if Mutt Lang is involved?
35:05
SPEAKER_03: That's true, too.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't lend his name to much.
35:10
SPEAKER_03: So there you go, Crossbone Scully.
35:12
SPEAKER_03: The thunderous riffs of the shot of lightning and the bolt of thunder or whatever.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Thunderous drums, screaming guitars.
35:25
SPEAKER_01: So stupid.
35:28
SPEAKER_03: All right, well, there you go.
35:29
SPEAKER_03: That's Crossbone Scully for you.
35:32
SPEAKER_03: Not bad.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: I'll listen to it.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: That is an album I'll listen to.
35:36
SPEAKER_03: If Phil is on this whole record, I'll listen to it.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: If he's not, I'll listen to it.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: Sounds okay.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: All right.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: So do you think Mutt just did this one song, or do you think he's doing the whole album?
35:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
35:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, I hope he does the whole album.
35:57
SPEAKER_03: Man, I'd love to see that guy come back.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: So given the relationship with this Crossbones Scully and,
36:06
SPEAKER_01: you know,
36:06
SPEAKER_01: obviously Phil Collin and getting Mutt Lang on, you know, to turn the knobs, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you think Mutt is doing this kind of, you know, a little on the cheap side for these guys?
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SPEAKER_01: Just a little favor.
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SPEAKER_01: He may have done it for nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure he probably did.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sure he didn't say, okay, my rate is 9,000 an hour or whatever it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think a crossbones Scully with probably no record label support is going
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SPEAKER_01: to get a Mutt Lang to record.
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SPEAKER_03: No, probably not.
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SPEAKER_03: But that said, you know what the weird thing is?
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SPEAKER_03: They might because of the Alice Cooper connection.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, Alice Cooper...
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SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of people that have tentacle ties to Alice Cooper.
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SPEAKER_03: And Tommy's been with Alice Cooper for a long time, hasn't he?
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SPEAKER_03: He's been over there a while.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, it's been at least 10 to 15 years, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Has it been that long?
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SPEAKER_03: I think it's been that long.
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SPEAKER_03: He's been there a long time at this point.
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SPEAKER_03: Again, look at how fast the fucking clock rolls these days, man.
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SPEAKER_03: It might be 30 years and we just don't even know it.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, so who knows?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: And honestly, all I care about is it sounds good.
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SPEAKER_03: And we're so starved for music that sounds good these days.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll take it.
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SPEAKER_01: A little ear candy, if you will.
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SPEAKER_03: Although now that we said we like it, we will just get destroyed.
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SPEAKER_03: Did I tell you how bad we got beat up over saying that
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SPEAKER_03: that Def Leppard song was good three months ago or whatever that was,
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SPEAKER_03: two months ago?
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SPEAKER_01: No, I just thought it sounded like a classic Def Leppard.
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SPEAKER_01: I shared it with one of my coworkers who went to that Motley Def Leppard thing,
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SPEAKER_01: and he's an 80s guy.
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SPEAKER_01: He and I are literally nine days apart in age.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: And he loves that stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: And I shared it with him and he was, I'm adding that to my playlist right now.
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SPEAKER_01: I like it.
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SPEAKER_01: I like it too.
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SPEAKER_01: It's, you know, is it, you know, is it groundbreaking stuff for Def Leppard?
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SPEAKER_01: No, but at least it's the first thing they've done in 30 years.
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SPEAKER_01: It sounds like Def Leppard.
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SPEAKER_03: It's groundbreaking for the last 25 years anyway.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, my God, take what you can get at this point.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, well, that's Crossbone Scully.
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