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The Tools of The Antichrist (ft. J.B. Hixson) · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: Then that the greatest deceiver of all time, the Antichrist,
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  Speaker 1: at the behest of Satan, will have a sidekick who
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  Speaker 1: is a lying prophet.
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  Speaker 2: This is a great segue because into what you've done
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  Speaker 2: here in the book. In that again we're we see
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  Speaker 2: this snapshot and now we've been introduced to economics about
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  Speaker 2: buying and selling. And this is one of the places
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  Speaker 2: where I love skeptics. I love people that maybe they're
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  Speaker 2: partial predators or whatever. That's fine, it's not well, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't agree with them, but I love that. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, you know, they're I'm sure some of them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, will be in heaven of course, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because they have faith in Jesus. But the fact is
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  Speaker 2: that for this kind of stuff, it's all fulfilled. That
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  Speaker 2: there's this makes this is this makes nothing for them,
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  Speaker 2: that it's been fulfilled somehow. But this is the verse
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  Speaker 2: that has been used by those that take a futurist
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  Speaker 2: approach to the Bible, to the book Revelation as as
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  Speaker 2: evidence of a cashal society of a digital and so
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  Speaker 2: you talk about that in the book, and this would
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  Speaker 2: be a good way kind of talk about you how
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  Speaker 2: you brought this up in the book because again we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing a snapshot here that this is happening, but we're
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  Speaker 2: not giving the play by play. But what you're doing
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  Speaker 2: in the book is you're showing how we the stage
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  Speaker 2: is being set. Oh yeah, to bring us to that point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the whole idea of all of those books,
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  Speaker 1: my three most recent books, is that if the stage
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  Speaker 1: is being set for events that will take place in
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  Speaker 1: the Tribulation, that means the rapture must be even closer
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  Speaker 1: because it happens first. So but real quick, before I
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  Speaker 1: answer that, back to this text you just read, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to point out that there's a series of
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  Speaker 1: merisms there small, great, rich, poor, free slave. Those are
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  Speaker 1: figures of speech to mean everybody, like the whole earth,
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  Speaker 1: the whole earth will be under this control system. Right
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  Speaker 1: now in the Church age, the whole world is under
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  Speaker 1: the sway of the wicked one. It's he's the prince
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  Speaker 1: of the power of the air. But in the Tribulation
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  Speaker 1: there will be an actual physical controlling of them. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think what we see happening now is uh and rapidly,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is technological mechanisms being put in place
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  Speaker 1: that will make it next to impossible for anyone to
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  Speaker 1: escape the control grid. Now, remember the church we believe
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  Speaker 1: will be raptured before the great day of the Lord's wrath,
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  Speaker 1: this seven year tribulation. But for those who get saved
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  Speaker 1: after the rapture and who are alive during this seven
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  Speaker 1: year reign of terror, as you referenced earlier, at the midpoint,
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  Speaker 1: that's when things get really dicey, and and believers at
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  Speaker 1: that time are gonna need to, as Jesus said, head
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  Speaker 1: for the hills and hide out. And because it's they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna start hunting you down. Yeah, it's good, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: that that gets changed. Oh, now, it's it's complete genocide,
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  Speaker 1: not only for.
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  Speaker 2: The Jews, right, who are for the Christians as well,
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of her offspring, right, you know. So well,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about that for a minute, because we we
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  Speaker 2: know in uh, I'll tell the story I shared in
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  Speaker 2: another environment earlier. But I was in Seattle last week, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I needed something. I was walking around Seattle. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a long time since I've been there, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I need something for a trip. And
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  Speaker 2: so I walked into the Amazon store and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's an Amazon store. Oh wow, I've heard about these.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to go in. So I go in and
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  Speaker 2: there's a gate right there at the front, and I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get in. There was a there was a bar,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like you would have, and I couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: in until I opened up my app and I had
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  Speaker 2: the QR code and I put it on the thing,
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  Speaker 2: and so I walked in and then right behind it
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  Speaker 2: there was other people. And it was just amazing the
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  Speaker 2: time me because I turned around and this other lady
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  Speaker 2: walks in and she just put her palm, not even her.
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  Speaker 2: I had my phone, but I certainly wasn't going to
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  Speaker 2: imprint my palm on there, but she puts her palm
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  Speaker 2: on there and she walks in. Well, I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: how does this work? This is interesting, and so it
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  Speaker 2: said on there, just get what you want walk out.
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  Speaker 2: So I went in there and I got a few
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  Speaker 2: items toothbrush or whatever, and I walked out and I
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  Speaker 2: got this boom. As soon as I walked out, an
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  Speaker 2: email comes up. Hey, here's your receipt for what you
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  Speaker 2: bought at the store, And it took it out of
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  Speaker 2: my and I was like, oh, wow, here we are.
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  Speaker 2: No registers. No cashiers. Uh, there was there was one
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  Speaker 2: person that was in there that was maybe supplying some
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff on the on the shelves. Other than
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  Speaker 2: that didn't need to talk to them. And as I
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  Speaker 2: stood there, I watched a handful of people just boom
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  Speaker 2: in and out. I mean it was like, wow, this
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  Speaker 2: is pretty amazing. Well then another story. We went to
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  Speaker 2: just to get some coffee. There, we hand them some cash.
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  Speaker 2: We don't we don't take cash.
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  Speaker 1: I go, really, I go?
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  Speaker 2: Is this normally go? All most of the seattles this way?
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  Speaker 2: But and and and as we've discussed other places in China,
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  Speaker 2: they're already there social credit scores. But here's my here's
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  Speaker 2: my point all that to say that as Christians we
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  Speaker 2: might be forced into a digital or cashless system. That
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we are taking the mark of the
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  Speaker 2: Beast by being forced into that, because that's in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: But it's already here. And so as Christians before the rapture,
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  Speaker 2: it might be full blown before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Oh yeah, And I I think if the Lord's
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  Speaker 1: Return doesn't happen very soon, we will be there. So
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  Speaker 1: what you experienced in Seattle is happening in other parts
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  Speaker 1: of the world, universally Sweden. Yeah, yeah, and so it
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what they are headed for. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: your experience at that second coffee shop just shows you
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  Speaker 1: that the Federal Reserve, which is a privately owned central bank,
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  Speaker 1: is a bunch of liars because the actual debt instruments
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  Speaker 1: that we hold in our wallet, say this is legal
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  Speaker 1: tender for all debts, private and public. Well apparently not
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  Speaker 1: at that coffee shop, right, So they're lying on their
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  Speaker 1: own debt instruments. But yeah, we are definitely headed towards
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  Speaker 1: the cash to society. I have a whole chapter on
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  Speaker 1: that in the new book, and I give some quotes
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  Speaker 1: of people like the Chairman of the Bank for International Settlements,
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  Speaker 1: the Chairman of the Bank of America, others just openly
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  Speaker 1: saying we want to get rid of all cash because
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  Speaker 1: cash is not trackable and traceable. So I can give
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  Speaker 1: you when we're done here, twenty dollars for some item
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  Speaker 1: that you're going to sell me, and no one will
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  Speaker 1: be the wiser.
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  Speaker 2: Private, secret, private, black market whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, but with digital everything's trackable, and you know
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  Speaker 1: what's also going to be happening. And again you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll get to the crux of your point in
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  Speaker 1: just a moment. But whether now or in the tribulation,
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  Speaker 1: what they're eventually going to get to is that through
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  Speaker 1: this biodigital convergence, and it wouldn't even have to be
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  Speaker 1: by the way through implants. If you walked out of
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  Speaker 1: that Amazon store and had not paid for something, or
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  Speaker 1: had not you know, signed in with your QR code
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, if you tried to dash and grab and run,
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  Speaker 1: they can literally stop you in your tracks. With digital technology,
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  Speaker 1: they can do something that affects your your biochemistry and
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  Speaker 1: causes you not to be able to move. So again,
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  Speaker 1: all of this can be and I talk about this
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  Speaker 1: in the book, but all this can be done remotely.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have to send out officers, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: to send out paddy wagons. They can control the world
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  Speaker 1: again replicating God, because God can do that. God is
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  Speaker 1: all powerful, almighty, can do anything. Satan can't. So he
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  Speaker 1: needs help and he doesn't have enough demons and you
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  Speaker 1: know other people cele beings to do it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have enough human accomplices to do it. There's just not
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  Speaker 1: enough to cover the planet. But with technology and satellites,
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  Speaker 1: and tracking and hacking. They can they can stop you
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  Speaker 1: in your tracks. But I do believe that all of
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  Speaker 1: this is already available. They're fine tuning it, they're improving it,
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  Speaker 1: but they're ready and at the flip of a switch
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  Speaker 1: they can roll it out. It's called a technocracy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, I think about you know, the
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about social credit scores, that's happening already, what
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  Speaker 2: those look like. And so I go in, I'm hungry,
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  Speaker 2: I need to go into the store. And I hear
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  Speaker 2: in the case I was in the Amazon store, I
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  Speaker 2: do my thing, and it says, sorry, you're not qualified
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  Speaker 2: to buy anything today until you go take something off
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  Speaker 2: your website or whatever, or I increase my credit score
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  Speaker 2: for right, not allowed. So right now, if if that system,
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  Speaker 2: just just if the Amazon system was the only system available,
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  Speaker 2: potentially they could block me out from getting normal food, right.
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  Speaker 1: No, oh, no question. Yeah, that's their goal. They want
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  Speaker 1: to completely control what you can buy, when you can
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  Speaker 1: buy it, where you can buy it, where you can travel. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Amazon's not the only one that's
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  Speaker 1: using that Palm thing hold Foods as a similar console.
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  Speaker 2: Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, so so yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're going to see that more and more. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the idea here is not only so. So they might
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  Speaker 1: say your social credit score failed, or your you know,
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  Speaker 1: your your carbon footprint was too big, right, whatever it
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  Speaker 1: might be. Your health, your blood pressure is too high.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need talk about the ultimate nanny state.
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  Speaker 2: Well let's say I walk out and because my blood
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  Speaker 2: pressure is too high and I'm getting a bag of
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  Speaker 2: chips that could sorry, you're not allowed to buy that, right,
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  Speaker 2: they won't let you.
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  Speaker 1: Buy it, so so yeah, and and and or what
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  Speaker 1: they might do is charge you more like tax, like
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  Speaker 1: the green taxes, right, health tax so hell tex So
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  Speaker 1: they'll say, Okay, you really shouldn't be buying these chips,
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  Speaker 1: but if you insist, that's fine, We're going to charge
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  Speaker 1: you triple. So it's all it's all controlled, it's monetized,
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  Speaker 1: it's controlled. Uh, and it's it's a frightening dystopian picture.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what they've been bragging about. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: talk in the book about Brazinski and how back in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one he was painting this picture of this
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  Speaker 1: full spectrum global control system where these elites and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them don't even know they're part of Eluciferian agenda.
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  Speaker 1: They're just power hungry or you know, money hungry, and
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  Speaker 1: they're just evil, bad cats, you know. But ultimately it's
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  Speaker 1: a cosmic battle. And they've been talking about this for
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  Speaker 1: decades with just salivating at the notion that someday, through technology,
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  Speaker 1: we can control everything. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so here we are, we're we're reading
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  Speaker 2: in scripture. We talked about Relevation thirteen, where it's giving
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  Speaker 2: us this snapshot of a What it's telling us here is, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is the mature version of what is there and
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  Speaker 2: how it's being utilized in order to you know, cause
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  Speaker 2: everybody small and great, as as you mentioned, not to
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  Speaker 2: be able to buy and participate in that economic system
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  Speaker 2: unless they worship the mark basically. But what we're seeing now,
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  Speaker 2: let's let's let's see again some of the things you
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  Speaker 2: bring up your book. In your book, what we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: is the stage setting for this. So this isn't and
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  Speaker 2: you and I were discussing in a different program that
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  Speaker 2: it's hard for you to keep up oh yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, this is good, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh wow, I need I need to write this. I
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  Speaker 2: need to write this because the stage setting the infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: is every single day more and more is being added.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're conditioning us too. So back to the
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  Speaker 1: social credit scores. You know, the kind of stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you can get where you get your actual credit score today.
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  Speaker 1: Used to that was hard to get. I mean you
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  Speaker 1: had to pay a fee or you had to run
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  Speaker 1: a credit check. Now you can get it. Every credit
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  Speaker 1: card statement has it. You can pay the credit karma
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  Speaker 1: and places you can get it. They're conditioning people to
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  Speaker 1: think in terms of what's my value, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: just an easy transition into Okay, it's not about your
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  Speaker 1: lending and buying and paying your debts. It's about your
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  Speaker 1: social credit score. It's about your carbon credit score. It's
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  Speaker 1: about how much water did you use? Are you loving
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  Speaker 1: the planet enough? And so? And in China, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: they're already doing this so people can look and see
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  Speaker 1: what their store. Oh I'm not good enough to go
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  Speaker 1: to this place or to buy to get a certain loan.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah, this is again these things that
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  Speaker 2: we've been looking at for thirty plus years that have
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  Speaker 2: kind of been you know, we know the scripture says it,
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  Speaker 2: but have been relative conspiracy. I hope that anybody that
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  Speaker 2: would be watching this that is maybe on the fence,
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  Speaker 2: that they would wake up that we are seeing right
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  Speaker 2: here prophecy. The conditions for that prophecy to be fulfilled
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  Speaker 2: are the infrastructure is right now. In some places, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of already in place, because again, they could have
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  Speaker 2: blocked me out of the store if they wanted. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have a credit card signed up to my
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  Speaker 2: account or whatever, or you know, whatever, whatever they didn't want.
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  Speaker 2: And even if I walked out and they didn't like something,
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  Speaker 2: that they would charge me anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, And like you said, you got in
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  Speaker 1: by authenticating, so some program somewhere has to check yes
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  Speaker 1: when you showed that, it's very simple for them to
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  Speaker 1: say it was a gait.
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  Speaker 2: It did not open up until I walked through, so
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  Speaker 2: until I put it.
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  Speaker 1: And what if it's a simple computer programming, if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't meet the criteria whatever they make that to be,
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  Speaker 1: even though you've got the right QR code, you've got
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  Speaker 1: an Amazon account, you scan it and it doesn't open,
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  Speaker 1: and you go wait a minute. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: the message appears on your smartphone.
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  Speaker 2: Not qualified, not qualified right, But.
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  Speaker 1: You know, talking about how rapidly things are coming together,
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  Speaker 1: I've mentioned on other programs that you know, this book,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I spent a year researching it after the
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  Speaker 1: last one came out, and I especially had to really
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  Speaker 1: research AI and chat, GPT and some of these technologies
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  Speaker 1: that are so new and changing. But it was happening
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  Speaker 1: so fast. I would get I subscribed to several news
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  Speaker 1: feeds and articles just to kind of educate myself on
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  Speaker 1: all this. I would get stuff that literally, if you
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  Speaker 1: read in the book with the citations and the bibliography
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  Speaker 1: at the end. The book came out September first, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, I've got citations in there. I think the
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  Speaker 1: most recent one is August twenty third. Because even while
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  Speaker 1: it was in the hands of the editor, I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: these things.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I got I got a parasit there there exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's just and of course already I'm getting stuff that
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Oh, I wish.
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  Speaker 2: I could have to reupdate the second edition already two
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  Speaker 2: weeks later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just amazing how rapidly things are happening. But
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a scary time for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I want to I want to read here,
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  Speaker 2: and then maybe you could pick one that you want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. Just your chapter titles. You hit chapter two,
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  Speaker 2: Luciferians in Sheep's Clothing, Chapter three, Technocratic tyranny, Chapter four,
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  Speaker 2: historical hint, Benchman, Lackey's and Wingman. Uh. Chapter five, you
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  Speaker 2: have it on Yvonne and Noah, Harari, a wolf in
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  Speaker 2: Sheep's clothing. You have Chapter six, artificial intelligence, science fiction
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  Speaker 2: no longer, Chapter seven, Hacking and Tracking Humanity.
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  Speaker 1: Chapter eight.
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  Speaker 2: Now you see it, now you don't. Chapter nine, Escaping
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  Speaker 2: the Prison Planet, and chapter ten a summary and conclusion
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  Speaker 2: of those, you know, we have a few minutes left.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The I encourage people to get the book, naturally, But
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  Speaker 2: what what of those which one kind of spoke to
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  Speaker 2: you in a in a in a powerful way that
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  Speaker 2: as you're researching, you're like, oh man, this is just powerful.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my two favorite chapters are chapters five and six.
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  Speaker 1: And you you mentioned you've all know Harari as the
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  Speaker 1: title it's actually a wolf and wolf's clothes. Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, that's intentional, because you know Harari, he's become
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  Speaker 1: a household name among propsy buffs these days. But He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even attempt to hide his evil machinations with a
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  Speaker 1: well tailored suit of wool, so he's not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be a sheep's clothing. He just says, I'm a wolf.
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  Speaker 2: He's calling it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, and so we talk about his background,
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  Speaker 1: his history, and and it's a it's a fascinating a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fastening stuff that I learned there. And he's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a subtle enigma there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's not like necessarily championing the cause of AI, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not speaking against it either. He sort of almost
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  Speaker 1: sounds like he's warning about the dangers of it, but
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  Speaker 1: doing it in a way that he's like almost telling
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  Speaker 1: us what's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So he's certainly not advocating for the average consumer. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: he advocates for AI in other aspects and limited aspects
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  Speaker 1: of it. But he's just anti Christian, anti God. He's
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  Speaker 1: just an evil guy. And then chapter six, I think
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  Speaker 1: my the section of the whole book that really moved
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  Speaker 1: me the most was the dialogue that I include in
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  Speaker 1: chapter six between uh with a AI Jesus.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, people are listening, They're going, what do you mean,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: AI Jesus? This has been out for a while now.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And first of all, let's talk about let's talk about
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: AI for a moment, because AI Jesus. Before we go
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: to the Jesus part, let's talk about AI. What are
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the components of AI?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so there's different kinds of AI, but artificial
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: intellig artificial intelligence exactly, it's basically using computers and technology
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to create a what's called general intelligence or artificial general intelligence.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: They want this singularity where they have created mankind or
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: something approximating mankind that is smarter than mankind, that has
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: sort of transcended mankind. And so artificial intelligence in and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: of itself is not morally bad. It's morally neutral. It's
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: just whose hands is it in? So AI is advancing
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: medical causes and solving diseases that we never thought we
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: would solve because it's able to to, for example, see
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and read X ray scans and MRI scans better than
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: the human eye patterns and looking for patterns and and
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's basically when you talk about large
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: language model text based AI, you upload tons of data
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and then you give it a prompt and then it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: able to basically answer the question with remarkable accuracy, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: even just in the last six months, we've seen light years.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Of advance from November of chu GBT com anatomy it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: it's and then they had the second edition not too
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: long after.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's it's almost indistinguishable now.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And so now what they're working on is putting that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: technology inside a robot and then making that robot look
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: like a human. So nowadays a robots are pretty you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: simple to identify. I think of a roomba or R
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: two D two, you know, we go, that's a robot, right, well,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you they can now make robots look just like you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and me, even down to the texture the skin, the eyes,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the hair, the expressions. And then you put inside that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a chat GPT like technology and it's really very little
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  Speaker 1: that it can't do. And it's now starting to feed
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: off of itself. That's you know, you know, yeah, generating
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: stuff from its own, stuff that are generated. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's really spooky.
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  Speaker 2: It's so true. I mean for those that you know,
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  Speaker 2: just think back again, we talked about this in another program.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Is think back to Gary Kasprov playing Big Blue in
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a chess and you know, Gary one and you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: it's humans are the best, you know. And then but
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Big Blue that was an early form of AI where
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: it learned his strategies and it ended up beating him.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: And then now it's pretty much hands down because it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: calculating billions at a second, you know whatever, all the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: different possibilities and knows and so people you think in
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: terms of that, AI is a computer program that is
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: being has access to data. So say, hey, I want
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you you look at the Encyclopedia Britannica and then I
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: now you have this, I want you to be able
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to look at it. I want you to be to
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: synthesize it. I want to me to look for patterns.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Give me all of the words that start with P,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that that that are a verb, that are a participle,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: whatever that are you know in this language and whatever
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: it looks at it. But then secondly, it's computing all this.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So you got to have a computer program, you got
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: to have data, and then you've got to have computing power. Yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: so on that the data that it now has acts too.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It has has access to phones, cameras, everything, right, So
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: but then secondly you talk about the machine learning aspect
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: of it, that it's as you mentioned, it's even the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: coding how it's learning to code itself.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've had the data for a while. That
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: was part of the rollout of social media technology. That
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: was by design. But to access to data you had
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to create a program, an algorithm to go search for something.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: So you you had this data that you could do
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: something with, but you had to kind of over the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: data mining they call it. Well with AI. Now it
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: generates its own data mining. It's actually coming up with
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the algorithms. It's telling you things you didn't even know
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to ask about, right, So it's literally got a mind
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: of its own, and we see examples of this, Like
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: one of the examples that I use in the book
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: is how the story of a recent US Air Force
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: simulation where an AI enabled drone was tasked with destroying
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a surface to air missile sites and ended up turning
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: on the officer that was controlling it at the computer
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and destroying the building that the guy was in. Now,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it was all simulation, but the guy tweeted afterwards and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: there were all kinds of stories about AI going rogue
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and killing his human operators. Now, the Air Force walked
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that back and tried to change it, but you can't
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: deny the original tweet that the guy said, look, we
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: trained the system. Quote, hey, don't kill the operator. That's bad.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You're gonna lose points if you do that. But what
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: does it start doing. It starts destroying the commun munication
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: tower that the operator was using to communicate with the drone.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So it's that's the kind of stuff that even unbelieving, secular,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: even atheistic AI scientists have started to raise the red
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: flag and say, wait a minute, we've crossed the line.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So because in this particular instance, the AI had an
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: objective and now the operator, who has got a god
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to him creator, the AI recognized, well, that guy can
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: stop me from fulfilling my objective. Therefore I need to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: get rid of the one the only thing that can
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: control me to do it to get to reach my objective,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to reach the other words, it fought for itself. It's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like you know, you know, if they took away some
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of its capabilities, but in order for it to reach
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: its objective, he then had to think another layer ahead
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and say, well I can just eliminate them and then
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I can still go forward.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So it's it's got a mind of its own. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: mean they've done simulations now and I talk about this
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in that chapter on Artificial intel Diligence where they use
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: an embodied AI and they have a room, a set
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: kind of like you're set here at propsy Watchers, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it's got some trash on the floor and some pillows askew,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and maybe an afghan that's on the floor, and the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: prompt will be company is coming in an hour, Please
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  Speaker 1: get ready, That's all it says. And this robot will
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: then pick up the trash exactly trash. It puts it
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in the trash receptacle. It knows to make the cushions.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And they didn't train any of this. This isn't so
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: how did it know. It just knows from from data
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: from the data. Yeah, yeah, so it's able to process
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the data and in this case visual it's seen stuff.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: It knows. You know, it's watched movies.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's watched movies, and it's learned about human behavior.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It's learned about what's normally expected. I think about my wife.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It's like somebody's coming over. And you know, I wasn't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: really raised in a in a in a very uh,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, civilized situation. But so I think, what are.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We supposed to do?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's, well, let me let me inform you about
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: social customs. Well so she she was basically hand to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: inform me. But the AI is looking out there and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it's learning about human social customs that when somebody's coming
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: over to visit, you need to do a B, C
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and D, which I didn't know about until I was informed.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Is that. Yeah, it's exactly what it is. And so
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: what we've seen happening with these textual text only large
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: language models is people are just experimenting with the most
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: bizarre prompts to see how it performs. And it's stunning
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: what is doing. It's kind of like what I did
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: at the outset of my well share share that in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the preface, I don't you know, I kind of used
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it as a teaser, but uh, you know, by now
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: most people are reading the book. But you know, I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: start out in the preface and the first several paragraphs
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I actually and I don't tell you this until you
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: get yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So I read, yeah, okay, I'll tell you my experience.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm reading the preface and uh, I was like, oh wow,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: this is this is this is good Okay, I see
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: where where you're going with this. And then I felt
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a little deceived and betrayed because when you realize what
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you just read was yeah, go ahea.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I was, I said, I And
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: when I explained it a little bit later after doing that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I say, I included my collaboration with the AI and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this preface because I wanted to illustrate the intersection of
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: AI technology and deception. So but basically I gave or
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: my friend Shane gave this prompt to chat GPT. He's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: my technologist guy. We've had him on the program. A
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: lot of folks haven't listened to anything anything might have
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: on the program with Shane. You need to go back
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and listen to those podcasts because he's a cutting edge technologist,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: brilliant guy. But I gave it this prompt or he
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: did quote. Your role is to be a Christian author
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: writing an introductory chapter for your new book about the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: false prophet from the Book of Revelation and how he
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: might use artificial intelligence to bring about a one world
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: system of global dominance. That was the pros it. So
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: we didn't upload any data, we didn't So what did what?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: What did so explain then the it has its program,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: what did it go do and where did it get it?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So, uh, with chat GPT, now Shaine would be the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: better guy to ask this. But depending on what service
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you pay for, it's going to have more or less
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: or different data. But it basically had a data set
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of information from not not related to that prompt, just
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: general information. And you're going to ask it anything and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it then you know based on what it learns. It's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: not regurgitating information. It's not plagiarizing. It's not like it
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: searched the net and cut and paste it right. It's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: thinking and creating and generating.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: That's why it went out there and learned about what
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: a conservative dispensation or whatever future book revelation. It learned
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it and then it it synthesized it and then output.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And put it out as an answer. And so that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: what the g stands for in chat GPT generative. It's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: generating data. And so it was pretty pretty well set.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a little it wasn't clot I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: don't think other people will have necessarily thought it was quirky,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: but obviously this is my book and I didn't want
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: anything out there that was too disparate from what I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: would say or the way I would word it. So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I changed it quite a bit. Probably the probably sixty
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: percent of the words and that opening part of the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: preface are from it and forty percent from me. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the flow and the thought and the general idea, all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of that was was AI.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you where you made a mistake. Okay, Well,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you should have said was with the philosophy and that
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the style of writing of JB.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Hickson what we actually tried.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Did you try it?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: It would have You can do that now, huh. In fact,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: there's a story that I give in in the one
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of the sections on the threats of AI. This was
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago. A famous author, a lady,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was just going on Amazon and she happened and notice
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that she'd written a couple of new books that were
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: for sale on Amazon. And what had happened is some
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurial enterprising thieves had uploaded her books to a chat
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: GPT like service, asked it to write some new books,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: came up with new times and everything, put them for
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: sale on Amazon as if they were hers, and they
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: were written in her style. They sounded like all of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: her fans were like, great, I got these new books.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Well she noticed it of course, contacted Amazon. They took
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it down. But it's kind of a weird form of plagiarism,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you'd fake. They were basically claim passing work office hers.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: That sounded like, Chris, so you can do that. We
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: didn't do it in this case. I mean honestly, if
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: we had, I might have been able to just take
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it as is. It's not even making any changes.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Because that's There's been several things that I've seen too
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: where they've said, write it under a seventeenth century style,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you know, Elizabethan style, with this language, and and it
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: just boo brings it right out. So bringing it back here,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you know, seeing how amazing this is. How is the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: false prophet in the anti Christ? I mean, how are
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: they going to use this? Let's the snapshot we get
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: in Revelation. How is it being used?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the biggest way going to use it relates
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to deception. They are literally going to deceive the world
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: so that you will not know if you're dealing with
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: truth or fiction. It will be completely blurred. And that's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: what some of the key founders and that I cite
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: in the book of AI, and leading experts on it
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have sounded the alarm about it's like we've now crossed
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the threshold to where AI is producing information based on
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: AI and we don't even know what's original. And that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: why it's so important for people to have and hang
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on to hard copies of just about everything, because they're
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: changing dictionaries, they're changing the web. I mean, is it's frightening.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I give the illustration in the book of the New
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Mission Impossible movie, and there's a scene in there that's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: just really shook me to the core, where in the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: whole premise of the movie, by the way, is about
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: an AI system going rogue, taking over the world and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: controlling the world with pre crime and all kinds of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: other technology. Well, when they figure out what's happening, they
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: cut to this scene where there's a massive warehouse with
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people sitting at typewriters literally re keying in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and typing in data from these books to try to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: save it because AI is changing everything and you're just
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: not going to know what's real and what's not. Well,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: given that the goal, as we read in Revelation earlier,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: of the Antichrist system is to deceive the whole world.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: When you can't distinguish between truth and reality, that they've
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: accomplished their goal. So I think the biggest thing is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: for folks to stay in the Word. Of course, the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: word is truth. Proverbs twenty one says, we can know
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the certainty of the words of truth Jesus that I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the way that truth in the life. We've got to
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: use the Bible as our only standard. Stay in it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Recognize falsehood.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You kind of.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Alluded to it earlier. Come to faith in Christ. If
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you're listening to this program and you don't know the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Lord Jesus as your savior, today's the day Christ died
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: for our sins. He rose from the dead. It's only
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: by placing our faith in Him that we can be
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: born again and have eternal life.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think about when all the technology,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you know, in the sense of the digital there's no
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: more cash. It's been gone for ten years, however long
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: it's going to be that they simply just put in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a prompt because they have it. Did they tell the AI, Okay,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: we want you to prevent anybody that has a Christian
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: perspective or that is any sort of that's unwilling to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: toe the line as it relates to our new philosophy
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: of whatever that is with the system, block them out.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was saying. With these embodied Ais,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: these images of the beast, they can round you up,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they can stop you in your tracks. You know, Harari
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: talks about how AI will be able to know whether
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a young person at age twelve or thirteen is gay
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: before they remember Harari's gay.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: He talks about how he came out at twenty one,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: but he wished you to come out sooner. And he said, well,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: with AI, we'll be able to You'll know that before
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you do. And he said that information, how terrible will
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that be in the hands of a in his words,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a homophobic culture, a country. Sure, And I and then
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I follow up with that in the book by talking about, well, yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the same thing is true. What AI determines you're a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Christian yep uh, and then they know it, and so
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: then they can round you all up in an anti
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Christian you know, hostile.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: This is where when again, when you know, I don't
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: plan on being there during the tribulation, But the fact
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: of the matter is we know that that level of
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: control is coming where they will anticipate those that are
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: not towing the line and following again the best system,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and they will be able to the command will go
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: out to do this exact thing, no doubt, and they'll
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: have the technology that they'll have the infrastructure as well
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: as the computing power as well as the software, all
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the everything it's learned. It has access to everything in
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the sense of the data like like you mentioned earlier,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: giving it access to the Internet. That's unlimited information.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it can really do it. And so the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: only question is is how much of this what we
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: see before the Lord calls us to meet him in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the air. We know biblically, if you hold the pre
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: trivelational view, which we do in propsy watchers, does that
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: we won't be here when the Antichrist sort of takes
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the helm. But all we know from scriptures he's going
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to take the helm of this system. How much of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it might already be in place? I'm beginning to think
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it almost all. Almost all of it has to be
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: because it only has seven years yep. To accomplish the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: full spectrum planetary control. You're not going to have much
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: time for trial runs. And you know, setups and so
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: he's just going to step into a fully developed system
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: in my view, So you know, if the Lord doesn't
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: come back soon, we need to be aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I wrote the book. We need to be
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  Speaker 1: prepared for it. And of course the final chapter is
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  Speaker 1: all about solutions.
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  Speaker 2: So let let's let's let's finalize that with final words
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  Speaker 2: for the audience.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, uh, you know, first Thessalonians five
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  Speaker 1: six is kind of the theme verse, not only for
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  Speaker 1: this book but for the other ones. But it says, uh, therefore,
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  Speaker 1: let us not sleep as others do, but let us
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  Speaker 1: watch and be sober. Propsy watchers. You're all about watching,
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  Speaker 1: and believers need to be aware of what's happening so
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  Speaker 1: that we're not swept up and the tide of this
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  Speaker 1: of this you know, global technocracy that I talk about
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  Speaker 1: in the book. So I think, you know, be aware,
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  Speaker 1: educate yourself, have a plan. We have a preparedness plan.
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  Speaker 1: The whole chapter nine in the book deals with types
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  Speaker 1: of things to think about, scenarios, lists, supplies, food, what
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  Speaker 1: you can do if you get to the point where
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  Speaker 1: you have to go off the grid. It can be done.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's hard, we're so conditioned to use technology,
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  Speaker 1: but if you think about six thousand years of human history,
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  Speaker 1: people have lived with far less than what we have
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  Speaker 1: and and survived. So I think planning ahead, don't be
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  Speaker 1: caught off guard, but be ready.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, everybody, JB. Thank you for being here,
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  Speaker 2: and again Spirit of the False Prophet. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say volume three, but part of the series at
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  Speaker 2: least at understanding where we're heading. And you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: appreciate your prayers for what we're doing here. We're trying
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  Speaker 2: to keep you informed, everybody about what's coming, and well
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  Speaker 2: not even what's coming, it's what's here. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 2: and it's just going to get more mature as we watch.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening this week and catch us next time.