Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 383 - Godzilla Vs. SpaceGodzilla (1994)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Ever have that one movie everyone assumes you've seen, but
- 0:18Speaker 1: you haven't? You know, the one, the classic, the cult favorite,
- 0:23Speaker 1: the how have you not seen that movie? Welcome to
- 0:27Speaker 1: The Shameless Picture Show. Twice a month, I sit down
- 0:30Speaker 1: with the guests who finally cross one of those films
- 0:32Speaker 1: off our shame lists. Sometimes it's their first watch and
- 0:36Speaker 1: sometimes it's mine, but sometimes it's new for both of us.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Then we die the characters, the craft, the cultural impact,
- 0:45Speaker 1: and whether it actually lives up to the hype, from
- 0:48Speaker 1: legendary classics to cult oddities to the films we somehow
- 0:52Speaker 1: missed along the way. Join us as we turn movie
- 0:55Speaker 1: shame into movie discussion. This is the Shameless Picture Show.
- 1:05Speaker 2: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
- 1:10Speaker 2: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Enjoy the show.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Welcome back to Frimares Podcast. I'm your host Austin Prock
- 2:00Speaker 3: and joining me today for episode three eighty three is
- 2:03Speaker 3: my good friend Corey Johnson.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Hey O, everybody. The only thing that Austin and I
- 2:08Speaker 2: can assume is that it was a giant space Monster.
- 2:15Speaker 3: I love their explanation and how they get to why
- 2:18Speaker 3: they think it is what it is, which we're we'll
- 2:21Speaker 3: talk about. Don't worry. But today on another installment of
- 2:26Speaker 3: Kai June Destroy, we are discussing our deep cut pick
- 2:29Speaker 3: Godzilla versus Space Godzilla from nineteen ninety four, a movie
- 2:35Speaker 3: that gives you some logic about why this thing might
- 2:38Speaker 3: be coming towards Earth, but it's not necessarily good logic.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Let's see where this land.
- 2:44Speaker 2: No, it's not not at all.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Let's see where this lands on the nightmare index. All right,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I gotta go to the old letterboxed here and pop
- 2:57Speaker 3: this bad boy open. What about you? Anything good that
- 3:01Speaker 3: you've been watching over the past week?
- 3:07Speaker 2: Last weekend, Jessica and I went and saw the Back Rooms.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Absolutely amazing. That was fantastic. Other than that, not really.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Jessica and I have been going back and so Jessica
- 3:20Speaker 2: went way back and started watching The West Wing. So
- 3:25Speaker 2: I started, Okay, I started watching that with her, and
- 3:28Speaker 2: then a couple of nights ago she went back and
- 3:31Speaker 2: started watching mad Men. Okay, so so it's been we've
- 3:37Speaker 2: been in a hole of West Wing mad Men, and
- 3:40Speaker 2: she started the Sopranos again.
- 3:44Speaker 3: A bunch of TV shows, West Wing, Yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Bunch of TV and and nothing that's nothing that's less
- 3:53Speaker 2: than twenty years old.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I was gonna say, West Wing, is that uh pre Martin,
- 4:01Speaker 3: Is that pre like Grey's Anatomy or is that like
- 4:03Speaker 3: in the mix of Gray's Anatomy? Because Gray's Anatomy has
- 4:06Speaker 3: been going on for fucking so long.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I think the first season debuted in nineteen ninety nine.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Oh shit, okay, so it's been going on for a
- 4:16Speaker 3: hot minute, all right, So nothing else movie wise, I mean,
- 4:20Speaker 3: let's talk about the back Rooms though, real quick. I
- 4:22Speaker 3: mean it's almost impossible to spoil this movie because it's
- 4:27Speaker 3: the back.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Rooms because nothing happens and everything happens all at the
- 4:33Speaker 2: same time.
- 4:33Speaker 3: All at the same time. I don't know if I've
- 4:36Speaker 3: talked about this one yet on the show, did I?
- 4:41Speaker 3: I mean I watched it before we recorded Godzilla, but
- 4:44Speaker 3: I don't know if I actually talked about it. So, yeah,
- 4:46Speaker 3: I saw it on the thirtieth of last month, and
- 4:51Speaker 3: you know, I was exit. I mean, who who isn't
- 4:53Speaker 3: excited about this movie that doesn't know the back rooms? Like,
- 4:57Speaker 3: if you know the back rooms and you know the
- 4:59Speaker 3: movie in the movies, the shorts that exist, the lore
- 5:02Speaker 3: that goes behind it, It's kind of impossible to not
- 5:05Speaker 3: be excited. So I was super stoked, especially with Caine
- 5:08Speaker 3: Parsons directing, the creator of the original shorts. And I
- 5:13Speaker 3: find it hilarious because the whole Backroom's concept originated from
- 5:18Speaker 3: a photo from two thousand and two where this guy
- 5:20Speaker 3: took a picture in a former furniture store. His name
- 5:24Speaker 3: was like Bob Meyrowitz or something, and nothing really materialized
- 5:30Speaker 3: from that photo until like twenty nineteen on a four
- 5:32Speaker 3: chan where someone gave the back room's lore, and then
- 5:37Speaker 3: three years later twenty twenty two is when Caine Parsons
- 5:40Speaker 3: did his first back Rooms video. And he is younger
- 5:45Speaker 3: than the photo that was taken in two thousand two. Yeah,
- 5:50Speaker 3: it's so fucking wild. And I've been watching a lot
- 5:53Speaker 3: of interviews with him lately. He is either nineteen or
- 5:56Speaker 3: twenty whatever. The way he speaks like a full fucking
- 6:00Speaker 3: grown adult, it baffles me, like I was nowhere near
- 6:05Speaker 3: the level of coherent competent, whatever you want to call it,
- 6:09Speaker 3: at his age. I was astounded at the way he
- 6:11Speaker 3: spoke about film, about just things in general. Have you
- 6:15Speaker 3: seen anything.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I spent probably the entire afternoon leading up
- 6:22Speaker 2: to going to see the back Rooms just watching Cane
- 6:26Speaker 2: Parsons interviews, Okay, because I was like, man, like, I
- 6:31Speaker 2: gotta I gotta get in this dude's head. Because the
- 6:36Speaker 2: level of detail that he put into his writing for
- 6:42Speaker 2: the lore building of his universal back Rooms, it's it's
- 6:47Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like, all right, well,
- 6:50Speaker 2: you you had this in you, like, this is what
- 6:53Speaker 2: you were meant to do. You were meant to write
- 6:56Speaker 2: these type of stories. Yeah, like I believe Robert Eggers
- 7:00Speaker 2: was meant to write historic, spooky period pieces. And like
- 7:06Speaker 2: everybody has that one thing that they may not know
- 7:09Speaker 2: about it, but they're good at it. And Kane Parsons
- 7:12Speaker 2: just happen to find out, Oh, I'm good at making
- 7:16Speaker 2: super heady, nonsensical whatever content. And yeah, he And it's
- 7:24Speaker 2: weird because you look in his eyes while he's talking
- 7:27Speaker 2: and you can watch like his thoughts go by his eyes.
- 7:31Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Yeah, he is incredibly succinct for being so young, and
- 7:37Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what he does in the future.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, realistically, you can make I don't
- 7:43Speaker 3: want them to drown the back rooms in a franchise.
- 7:45Speaker 3: But I mean, ultimately, you can make so many different
- 7:48Speaker 3: variations of the same movie because he has according to him,
- 7:52Speaker 3: he has a seventy page book of lore and fuck
- 7:57Speaker 3: it all the stuff which is oh yeah, which is
- 7:59Speaker 3: no yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 2: And even before, like this iteration of the back rooms,
- 8:06Speaker 2: like Came's back Rooms was a was kind of a
- 8:11Speaker 2: schism amongst the back rooms community. So you have Caine
- 8:16Speaker 2: Parsons thing, which is very much just like the one
- 8:22Speaker 2: level that kind of leads into that fake outside space.
- 8:27Speaker 2: But then there's a whole other community of people that
- 8:31Speaker 2: have written the back rooms with like different levels, right,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and there are actually people living there, and it's like
- 8:38Speaker 2: this whole alternate reality, like semi apocalyptic community type thing
- 8:46Speaker 2: going on. So I mean, even with just the back rooms,
- 8:50Speaker 2: you could just say, all right, now we're gonna do
- 8:52Speaker 2: all these other people's back rooms, right, it's two completely
- 8:55Speaker 2: different backrooms exactly.
- 8:58Speaker 3: And I honestly forgot about that because before well I
- 9:02Speaker 3: guess it would have been after I saw the back
- 9:04Speaker 3: room short video. I did some research, and yeah, there's
- 9:07Speaker 3: like levels, certain levels you can go down and all
- 9:10Speaker 3: that stuff, which is really not part of Cain's canon.
- 9:14Speaker 3: I guess it's but I love how much just I
- 9:18Speaker 3: love this is probably my favorite creepy pasta. I guess
- 9:21Speaker 3: is it? Is it a creepy pasta or is it
- 9:23Speaker 3: just more of a like where does this fall?
- 9:25Speaker 2: So it is sort of creepy pasta, but also depending
- 9:31Speaker 2: on how like semantic hair splitty you want to get
- 9:36Speaker 2: into with like internet culture and lore things, it could
- 9:41Speaker 2: technically be part of a SCP thing, going.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right, I remember you. We we talked
- 9:46Speaker 3: about SCPs a year or two back. I remember all
- 9:49Speaker 3: of that. So on the same subject though, real quick.
- 9:53Speaker 3: I just found it funny because I went to his
- 9:55Speaker 3: mini biography, which is clearly written by someone else, it's
- 9:58Speaker 3: not written by him, and it it might be the
- 10:00Speaker 3: most pretentious thing I've ever heard, but I kind of
- 10:02Speaker 3: love it. So listen to this. At just twenty years old,
- 10:06Speaker 3: Kane Parsons, better known to millions online as Cane Pixels,
- 10:09Speaker 3: is redefining what the future of horror looks like. A
- 10:12Speaker 3: self taught filmmaker and visual effects prodigy, Parsons first burst
- 10:16Speaker 3: onto the scene with the Backrooms Found Footage twenty twenty two,
- 10:19Speaker 3: a hauntingly atmospheric YouTube short that went viral and a
- 10:22Speaker 3: sense of mass more than one hundred and ninety million viewings.
- 10:25Speaker 3: With its analog horror, aesthetic, immersive world building an eerie
- 10:28Speaker 3: sense of psychological dread, the film quickly cemented Parsons as
- 10:31Speaker 3: a visionary new voice in genre storytelling. Now, with the
- 10:35Speaker 3: release of Backrooms twenty twenty six, Parsons has made his
- 10:37Speaker 3: feature directorial debut for eight twenty four, becoming the studio's
- 10:41Speaker 3: youngest ever featured director. The film stars Blah Blah blah
- 10:44Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. The project, which produced by genre
- 10:47Speaker 3: heavyweight Sean Levy and James One, making a rare partnership
- 10:50Speaker 3: between twenty one Laps Entertainment and Atomic Monster, that underscores
- 10:54Speaker 3: the industry's belief in parsons singular talent. With more than
- 10:58Speaker 3: three million YouTube subscribers and a devote online fan base,
- 11:01Speaker 3: Parsons has cultivated and expansive and deeply engaging mythos around
- 11:04Speaker 3: the back Rooms, which continues to evolve across digital platforms.
- 11:08Speaker 3: The upcoming feature is expected to build on the uncanny
- 11:11Speaker 3: realism and existential horror that made the original short and
- 11:14Speaker 3: cultural phenomenon wal introducing bold new dimensions to the nightmare.
- 11:18Speaker 3: Parsons is not just making a film, he is shaping
- 11:21Speaker 3: his genre and he's only getting started. All right, Well,
- 11:24Speaker 3: I like I do.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I do very much. I do very much agree with
- 11:28Speaker 2: like that last little bit. I think that it has
- 11:32Speaker 2: set a wonderful precedent correct for filmmakers and studios to go. Okay,
- 11:42Speaker 2: there are original ideas still out there, and those original
- 11:46Speaker 2: ideas can make money.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Making may money.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Will stop making the fucking conjuring James Wand well, oh no, no,
- 11:58Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not the conjuring. It's fucking insidious that
- 12:01Speaker 2: I saw the trailer for. Maybe we'll stop doing that
- 12:04Speaker 2: shit too.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Okay, maybe a full disclosure. I'm excited for that because
- 12:08Speaker 3: it's a it doesn't involve the same people. It's a
- 12:10Speaker 3: different story, so maybe though.
- 12:12Speaker 2: No, I know, and Jessica's really excited for it too,
- 12:14Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm gonna go see it. But yeah,
- 12:16Speaker 2: we're hippy about it, but I'm gonna go see it.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Uh. But yeah, I mean it's just funny because like
- 12:23Speaker 3: he's made a movie. Yes, the movie was well reseed,
- 12:25Speaker 3: but like let's cal him down on that summary there.
- 12:28Speaker 3: It was a great movie, though, another five out of
- 12:31Speaker 3: five from me. I mean it's mainly because it got
- 12:34Speaker 3: a lot of bonus points. It gets bonus points because
- 12:37Speaker 3: I never thought we were gonna ever get a backrooms movie.
- 12:39Speaker 3: And then it also gets bonus points for some of
- 12:41Speaker 3: the most haunting fucking imagery I've seen in quite some time.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Performances were incredible, score was incredible. I mean they nailed
- 12:49Speaker 3: they fucking nailed the aesthetic of the back rooms. And
- 12:52Speaker 3: it got more bonus points because they built thirty thousand
- 12:55Speaker 3: square feet of back rooms that people legitimately got lost in.
- 12:58Speaker 3: I mean, ten out of ten known notes, it is
- 13:01Speaker 3: such a great movie. A couple other things I've watched
- 13:04Speaker 3: here a non horror movie. But I watched a movie
- 13:07Speaker 3: called Pressure with Brendan Fraser. It is a World War
- 13:10Speaker 3: two movie, sorry world War two, no, no, no, sorry D Day,
- 13:15Speaker 3: the events leading up to D Day, about the weather
- 13:17Speaker 3: and how they predicted the weather in a time when
- 13:20Speaker 3: they didn't have technology like we do today. It was
- 13:23Speaker 3: a fascinating fucking movie, and Fraser was amazing. He got
- 13:28Speaker 3: really angry at one moment. I was like, oh no,
- 13:29Speaker 3: Dad's angry let's not get him angry, but yeah, fantastic.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Four and a half out of five watched a movie
- 13:36Speaker 3: called The Jester from Transylvania, which was sent over to
- 13:38Speaker 3: me my Gemini Entertainment. I really hate to give bad
- 13:42Speaker 3: reviews when stuff is given to me for free, but
- 13:44Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie. It was not a great movie,
- 13:47Speaker 3: way too convoluted, a lot of dialogue that was very
- 13:50Speaker 3: vague for no reason once the reveal happens, and then
- 13:53Speaker 3: once the reveal happens, it was kind of like a
- 13:55Speaker 3: giant middle finger to the audience. One and a half
- 13:57Speaker 3: out of five saw the New Scary Movie Fuck and
- 14:00Speaker 3: just got awful. It was my least favorite in the franchise,
- 14:03Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy because Scary Movie five is
- 14:06Speaker 3: a terrible movie, and I'd rather watch Scary Movie five.
- 14:09Speaker 3: I just don't think I like Dwayne's comedy. I don't
- 14:11Speaker 3: outside of like Major Pain and a couple of other
- 14:14Speaker 3: of their films. I'm just not a fan of the comedy.
- 14:17Speaker 3: They said they were not holding back, and that's fine.
- 14:19Speaker 3: It takes a lot to offend me. There were a
- 14:22Speaker 3: couple of trans jokes that I felt were pushing the
- 14:25Speaker 3: line just because given trans people and they already have
- 14:29Speaker 3: enough to deal with just in the world. I felt
- 14:32Speaker 3: like that was pushing the line just a bit. But
- 14:34Speaker 3: I also find Shorty painfully unfunny. Am I the only
- 14:38Speaker 3: person just utterly annoyed at his laugh? I fucking hate
- 14:41Speaker 3: his laugh? Yeah, like I hate it. I fucking hate it.
- 14:46Speaker 3: So one star for Scary Movie. It just felt so forced.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Everyone felt like they were just there for a paycheck.
- 14:53Speaker 3: But there were some like I did get a few chuckles.
- 14:55Speaker 3: But I would say about eighty percent of the comedy
- 14:58Speaker 3: did not land for me. I didn't find funny. And
- 15:01Speaker 3: I think I.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Think the the era of the parody movie it's done,
- 15:08Speaker 2: or rather the super parody movie, because Scary Movie has
- 15:14Speaker 2: always done parodies of like a bunch of stuff in
- 15:17Speaker 2: the genre and kind of squished it together. Yeah, I
- 15:20Speaker 2: think that's done. I think I think we as a
- 15:22Speaker 2: people are like, all right, you don't have to you
- 15:25Speaker 2: don't have to make fun of it, like you can,
- 15:28Speaker 2: like you can let it exist and its existence in
- 15:31Speaker 2: an in and of itself is already kind of making
- 15:34Speaker 2: fun of itself. Yeah, you don't have to like go, oh, hey,
- 15:37Speaker 2: look at this, this is funny.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think scary Scary Movie one and two
- 15:43Speaker 3: I like just fine. Scary Movie three is my favorite.
- 15:45Speaker 3: It's just I don't think any scary movie will top that.
- 15:48Speaker 3: It is peak fucking comedy in my opinion, especially with
- 15:51Speaker 3: David Zucker at the Helm directing and Leslie Nielsen starring.
- 15:55Speaker 3: It's a fucking match made in heaven. So yeah, I
- 15:57Speaker 3: just I think we're done with that era. That was
- 15:59Speaker 3: a fun trend in the early two thousands, late two thousands.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Even the really bad like disaster movie or I Know
- 16:08Speaker 3: What you did last summer whilst screaming on Friday the
- 16:11Speaker 3: thirteen or whatever, even those are so bad they're entertaining.
- 16:14Speaker 3: This is just bad in my opinion, which is gonna
- 16:16Speaker 3: be a hot take. And then my CMC challenge this
- 16:19Speaker 3: week was David Dekotio Week, fucking I don't know man
- 16:24Speaker 3: is some director who works for Full Moon that did
- 16:26Speaker 3: like he's got one hundred and ninety four credits for directing.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Haven't fucking seen anything of his. So I did Creepyzoids
- 16:33Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty seven. Good full Moon feature, great rubber monsters,
- 16:38Speaker 3: practical effects, seventy two minutes long, does not overstay it's welcome,
- 16:42Speaker 3: and it stars Lena Quigley from the nineteen eighties. She
- 16:45Speaker 3: was very prominent in things like Night of the Demons
- 16:48Speaker 3: and other things that I'm completely forgetting right now, but
- 16:51Speaker 3: she was a great fun time. Definitely not my favorite
- 16:54Speaker 3: Full Moon, but the ending got bonus points for how
- 16:57Speaker 3: wild that shit escalated three point five review coming soon.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Other than that, I think that's about all I've watched.
- 17:05Speaker 3: I've got some I got six movie reviews today for
- 17:08Speaker 3: TikTok to do, so I'll have a bunch to talk
- 17:09Speaker 3: about next week. And then what comes out. Oh, Leviticus
- 17:14Speaker 3: comes out this weekend, and I'll be doing a review
- 17:16Speaker 3: on that. That's a Uh that's gonna be a sleeperhead
- 17:19Speaker 3: of the year.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that look that looked really interesting.
- 17:23Speaker 3: It looks really good, So I'm excited to check that out.
- 17:25Speaker 3: And then the week after that is something else I
- 17:28Speaker 3: can't remember, and then we're just ever getting closer to
- 17:31Speaker 3: Evil Dead Burn, which we are gonna.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Have and I was I think next week is disclosure Day.
- 17:36Speaker 3: Disclosure day as well. We will definitely be doing a
- 17:39Speaker 3: video podcast for YouTube on Evil Dead Burn. I have
- 17:43Speaker 3: to at this point. We started doing it in May.
- 17:47Speaker 3: I did one in June. I'm just gonna we're gonna
- 17:49Speaker 3: do one. We're gonna do one a month, you know,
- 17:51Speaker 3: we'll do We'll go.
- 17:52Speaker 2: I'm so hyped for Evil dead Burn.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so hyped. We're gonna do one, you know,
- 17:57Speaker 3: the biggest horror movie for that month. So that's what
- 17:59Speaker 3: we're gonna do. But with all this being said, let's
- 18:02Speaker 3: move on to the gold Open Hau already then, So
- 18:10Speaker 3: this is Godzilla versus Space Godzilla from nineteen ninety four,
- 18:14Speaker 3: released on December tenth of that year in Japan and
- 18:18Speaker 3: not making its way to the States for its video
- 18:20Speaker 3: premiere is January nineteenth, nineteen ninety nine. Not rated mild
- 18:25Speaker 3: sex and nudity for that one scene involving a man's butt,
- 18:29Speaker 3: moderate violence and gore, mild profanity, mild alcohol, drugs and smoking,
- 18:33Speaker 3: and mild frightening and intense scenes coming in in an
- 18:36Speaker 3: hour and forty six minutes. Listened as an action adventure
- 18:39Speaker 3: sci fi, no horror for this one, but that's okay.
- 18:42Speaker 3: It's Kai June I Don't Care. Directed by a man
- 18:45Speaker 3: named Keen show Yamashita. He only has five total credits,
- 18:50Speaker 3: and two of those credits are four Godzilla films, but
- 18:53Speaker 3: they're labeled as earlier film clips uncredited. So I'm assuming
- 18:59Speaker 3: it's something that he filmed during this movie that they
- 19:02Speaker 3: re used for later movies, because the two movies are
- 19:06Speaker 3: Godzilla Versus Destroya and Godzilla Final Wars. So there you go.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Written by Kanji Kashiwa, and this is the only movie
- 19:14Speaker 3: he has ever written and only credit on IMDb. But
- 19:17Speaker 3: then we have Hiroshi Kashawabara, who also wrote Godzilla two
- 19:21Speaker 3: thousand and Godzilla Versus Mega Guiris Guiris, However, you say
- 19:26Speaker 3: that composed by Taka Yuka Hati, who also composed Godzilla
- 19:30Speaker 3: two thousand. Cinematography by Mashahiro Kishimoto, who also did the
- 19:35Speaker 3: cinematography for Godzilla and Mathra, The Battle for Earth, Godzilla
- 19:40Speaker 3: Versus Destroya and Godzilla against Mega Godzilla. Edited by somebody.
- 19:46Speaker 3: They definitely edited edited this, but there was no mention
- 19:49Speaker 3: of who it was starring Magumi.
- 19:52Speaker 2: They did not do a good job.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Oh wasn't weren't a fan of the editing? Now, okay
- 19:58Speaker 3: at all?
- 19:58Speaker 2: And we'll get we'll get into that all. Note like
- 20:01Speaker 2: why two specific, two specific moments?
- 20:04Speaker 3: Maybe that's why it was like, why did they fucking
- 20:07Speaker 3: do that? Why didn't? Maybe that's why they're not credited.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Starring Magumi Odaka as Miki Saigusa, who only has twenty
- 20:14Speaker 3: four credits, ten of which are for movies. But we're
- 20:16Speaker 3: gonna circle back around to her because I went down
- 20:19Speaker 3: a fucking rabbit hole today of so many things you're
- 20:23Speaker 3: gonna lie, I hope you enjoy how much how much
- 20:25Speaker 3: effort I put into this. Uh June Hashizumi as Lieutenant
- 20:30Speaker 3: Koji Shinjo, who was also in Godzilla Final Wars as
- 20:33Speaker 3: Daego's aid Zinkechi Yona Yama as Lieutenant Kyosho Sato, he
- 20:39Speaker 3: was also in another Lonely Hitman as Wada. And then
- 20:43Speaker 3: we have a Kiro Amoto as Major Akira Yuki, who
- 20:45Speaker 3: has a whopping three hundred and twenty four credits, two
- 20:49Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two which are for film alone, and
- 20:52Speaker 3: then he was also in shin Godzilla as Reyuta Azuma.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Estimated budget of ten point three million, couldn't find a
- 20:59Speaker 3: worldwide box office gross. Filmed in Fukokuwa, Japan. If I'm
- 21:04Speaker 3: saying that correctly, you can watch this on t B
- 21:07Speaker 3: movies that came out around the time, Well, I wrote
- 21:09Speaker 3: down an hour and forty six minutes, so I guess
- 21:11Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to cut that back in later. That's
- 21:14Speaker 3: a lot of fun, that's hilarious. So movies definitely came
- 21:19Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety two. I AMDB summary. Godzilla is
- 21:22Speaker 3: threatened by two new forces, Mogera, another un built machine,
- 21:26Speaker 3: and Space Godzilla, a BT spawn from Godzilla's particles in space.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Let's roll into the autopsy, all right, Corey, I have
- 21:35Speaker 3: a feeling I enjoyed this much more than you. But
- 21:39Speaker 3: overall thoughts on Godzilla versus Space Godzilla.
- 21:43Speaker 2: It's a wonderful mess of a movie. I you know,
- 21:48Speaker 2: it's it's one of those things like I really love
- 21:50Speaker 2: a Godzilla movie. But at the same time, there's a
- 21:53Speaker 2: lot of things that can very easily ruin a Godzilla movie. Okay,
- 21:57Speaker 2: and there weren't a huge number of those things, but
- 22:01Speaker 2: there were like one or two where I'm like, all right, okay, mainly,
- 22:07Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm gonna include my hot take in this.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Overall thoughts, let's go. Baby Godzilla adds absolutely nothing to
- 22:15Speaker 2: the Godzilla franchise, and every movie featuring Baby Godzilla would
- 22:21Speaker 2: be better without baby Guys.
- 22:27Speaker 3: We'll get into that because I yeah, yeah, I have
- 22:29Speaker 3: thoughts on that as well. So I mean, I don't know, man.
- 22:33Speaker 3: For me, uh, this movie fucking rocked. Now everyone has
- 22:38Speaker 3: to understand I am not well versed in Kaiju movies.
- 22:42Speaker 3: I've seen the original Godzilla. I've seen the Monster Verse movies.
- 22:46Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that, oh I've seen Destroy All Monsters
- 22:50Speaker 3: because we watched that one way back for an episode
- 22:53Speaker 3: at the beginning of our podcast. But I haven't seen many.
- 22:57Speaker 3: So take my thoughts with the grain of salt. But
- 23:00Speaker 3: I thought this movie absolutely fucking rocked. I had so
- 23:04Speaker 3: much fun with it. The pacing wasn't the greatest. I
- 23:07Speaker 3: felt like there was so much exposition in some moments
- 23:10Speaker 3: not enough in other moments. And now we're in forty
- 23:13Speaker 3: six minutes. It is a little long, but overall, by
- 23:16Speaker 3: the end of it, especially with that ending battle sequence,
- 23:19Speaker 3: I fucking two thumbs up for me. Highly enjoyed this film.
- 23:24Speaker 3: So let me take you down the rabbit hole with
- 23:27Speaker 3: me here, right, But I should say first because there
- 23:30Speaker 3: is a little bit of history here because we've kind
- 23:32Speaker 3: of been doing We did that in the first episode
- 23:34Speaker 3: with Godzilla. But I have a little continuation of the
- 23:37Speaker 3: history of Kaiju. So following Godzilla's success in nineteen fifty four,
- 23:42Speaker 3: Toho then followed that up with a sequel next year,
- 23:45Speaker 3: nineteen fifty five, I Believe Godzilla Raids Again, which introduced
- 23:50Speaker 3: the concept of a monster fight in which two Kaiju
- 23:52Speaker 3: fight another. In the movie, Godzilla faces off with another
- 23:55Speaker 3: Kaiju monster called and Guyrus, who literally looks like Bowser
- 23:59Speaker 3: I looked him up, which is the first monster aside
- 24:01Speaker 3: Godzilla to be introduced into the Godzilla franchise. During the
- 24:07Speaker 3: nineteen sixties, the Japanese studio Toho started to experiment with
- 24:10Speaker 3: having Kaiju from different movies fight one another, culminating in
- 24:13Speaker 3: RCAO Pictures, later licensing King Kong to Toho, resulting in
- 24:17Speaker 3: the co productions of King Kong Versus Godzilla and King
- 24:21Speaker 3: Kong Escapes. With the advent of the Space Race and
- 24:24Speaker 3: Space Age, themes of giant monsters from outer space an
- 24:27Speaker 3: alien invasion started to appear in Kaiju movies. Examples include
- 24:32Speaker 3: Godzilla and Godoor The Three Headed Monster, where the space
- 24:35Speaker 3: dragon King Gadora is introduced for the first time, but
- 24:38Speaker 3: also more obscure films such as The x from outer space.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Giant monsters from outer space are traditionally associated with fictional
- 24:45Speaker 3: aliens who bring them to Earth to conquer the planet.
- 24:48Speaker 3: And then so now we are in the High Si era,
- 24:52Speaker 3: which is nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty five. So
- 24:55Speaker 3: we're near the end of the High Si era, as
- 24:58Speaker 3: this film is from nineteen ninety fi. As I just said,
- 25:02Speaker 3: I don't know how I already forgot that, but it is, yeah,
- 25:05Speaker 3: ninety four, So this is the second to last film
- 25:07Speaker 3: in the High SI era. The vibe here is a serious,
- 25:10Speaker 3: darker reboot, focusing on continuity and updated special effects. This
- 25:14Speaker 3: is a seven film era run which kind of ignores
- 25:18Speaker 3: the show of movies, treating Godzilla as a destructive force
- 25:22Speaker 3: of nature again. It introduces new foes like Biolante Destroya
- 25:27Speaker 3: and establishes a continuous, interconnected story complete with advanced for
- 25:31Speaker 3: the time practical effects and animatronics. Godzilla versus Destroya intended
- 25:36Speaker 3: to be the final Japanese Godzilla period for about ten years,
- 25:39Speaker 3: because tri Star Pictures was expected to produce a trilogy
- 25:44Speaker 3: of American made Godzilla films in that timeframe, and with
- 25:47Speaker 3: How Bad Godzilla from nineteen ninety eight did they did
- 25:50Speaker 3: not do the other two? So that's where we're at.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Yeah, now I blame Matthew Brodrick.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can all blame Matthew Brodrick. Fortunately.
- 26:00Speaker 3: All right, So first, what I'm gonna do here talk
- 26:02Speaker 3: about the opening scene because I was a bit confused,
- 26:05Speaker 3: and then the rabbit hole ensued. So hopefully this comes
- 26:08Speaker 3: across coherent. I will get through this as quickly as
- 26:11Speaker 3: I possibly can. I did love the cold, open, mysterious
- 26:15Speaker 3: object hurtling through space only to crash land on an
- 26:18Speaker 3: island near Godzilla, waking him up from a nap boom
- 26:21Speaker 3: title card. Then, honestly, you get some of the most
- 26:24Speaker 3: impressive miniatures that I've seen, where people are building this
- 26:27Speaker 3: nondescript giant metal thing later to be revealed as Muguero,
- 26:32Speaker 3: and you have one hell of an intro. Now, were
- 26:34Speaker 3: you confused? See I don't know how many Kaiju movies
- 26:37Speaker 3: you've seen. In Godzilla, were you confused at the appearance
- 26:40Speaker 3: of Mathra flying into space?
- 26:42Speaker 2: No, because from what I remember, Mathra comes from the move.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Don't worry, I have it all broken down.
- 26:51Speaker 2: She comes from she comes from outer space. The thing
- 26:53Speaker 2: that confused me for a brief second until my brain
- 26:56Speaker 2: started going Godzilla files, Godzilla files, Godzilla files. I was like,
- 27:01Speaker 2: what's up with the fucking twins? And I was like, oh, yeah,
- 27:04Speaker 2: Mathra has psychic space twins that she sends out to
- 27:10Speaker 2: give omens to the people who are spiritually connected with Godzilla.
- 27:16Speaker 2: It took me like five solid minutes to remember that,
- 27:18Speaker 2: and I was like, oh yeah. But then I was like,
- 27:21Speaker 2: fucking Mathra, get off your ass and actually do something.
- 27:24Speaker 3: So she is doing She is in the middle of
- 27:26Speaker 3: doing something. So let's go down the rabbit hole.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 27:29Speaker 3: I question, why is Mathra seen at the beginning of
- 27:33Speaker 3: this movie, never to be seen again, only to be
- 27:35Speaker 3: seen in the form of the cosmos, which are the
- 27:37Speaker 3: two little fairies? Right, So let's go all the way
- 27:40Speaker 3: back to nineteen sixty one, that's where Mathra first appeared.
- 27:43Speaker 3: She is typically portrayed as a colossal, giant sentient moth
- 27:47Speaker 3: accompanied by two minuture fairies which I just told you about.
- 27:50Speaker 3: They speak on her behalf. Unlike several other Toho monsters,
- 27:54Speaker 3: Mathra is a largely heroic character, having been variously portrayed
- 27:58Speaker 3: as the protector of her own island culture. The Earth
- 28:01Speaker 3: in Japan. She would appear in four other movies before
- 28:05Speaker 3: our movie today, which would be Mathra Verse Godzilla, Godora,
- 28:08Speaker 3: the Three Headed Monster, Abirah, Horror of the Deep, and
- 28:11Speaker 3: Destroy All Monsters, before appearing in Godzilla and Mathra The
- 28:16Speaker 3: Battle for Earth or Godzilla Versus Mathra, which is not
- 28:20Speaker 3: to be confused with Mathra versus Godzilla. It's a whole thing.
- 28:24Speaker 3: So in Mathra versus Godzilla from nineteen sixty four, this
- 28:28Speaker 3: is their first cinematic class. She is fighting Godzilla to
- 28:31Speaker 3: defeat him from destroying her eggs, and then in Godora
- 28:36Speaker 3: Other Three Headed Monster. This is officially when Godzilla transforms
- 28:40Speaker 3: from being a terrifying symbol of atomic destruction into a
- 28:43Speaker 3: heroic defender of Japan. Godzilla is initially hostile, but then
- 28:47Speaker 3: he eventually is convinced by the math Kaiju Mathra to
- 28:51Speaker 3: put aside his grudge against humanity and team up to
- 28:54Speaker 3: fight King Godora. Now we move to nineteen ninety two
- 28:58Speaker 3: Godzilla and Mathra The Battle for Earth or Godzilla versus
- 29:02Speaker 3: Mathra depending on the title. So according to the cosmos,
- 29:05Speaker 3: which are the two little fairies in that film, there's
- 29:08Speaker 3: a creature named Batra and He was created by the
- 29:10Speaker 3: Earth twelve thousand years ago when an ancient civilization created
- 29:14Speaker 3: a climate controlling device which greatly angered the Earth. Batra's
- 29:18Speaker 3: purpose was to destroy the device, but then he went
- 29:20Speaker 3: full rampage and eradicated the entire civilization, intending to wipe
- 29:25Speaker 3: out the whole fucking human race as well. But Mathra
- 29:28Speaker 3: challenged him and defeated him, sealing him in the North
- 29:30Speaker 3: Sea and then retreated to her island to live with
- 29:33Speaker 3: the Cosmos. Now, thousands of years after being sealed in
- 29:36Speaker 3: the North Sea by Mathra, three people come upon this
- 29:39Speaker 3: colossal object, which they determined as an egg. As they
- 29:42Speaker 3: ponder what it could be that had laid such an egg,
- 29:45Speaker 3: they hear two voices say it belongs to Mathra. The
- 29:47Speaker 3: two miniature women emerge from behind a flower and introduced
- 29:50Speaker 3: themselves as the Cosmos, who expressed their fear that the
- 29:53Speaker 3: recent meteor impact may have awakened Bantra, who will no
- 29:57Speaker 3: doubt resume his campaign against the human race, which is
- 30:00Speaker 3: exactly what happens in Godzilla versus Matha from nineteen ninety two.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Because Batra appears off the coast of Japan, rapidly approaching
- 30:08Speaker 3: the mainland. He begins terrorizing the city of Nagoya, blasting
- 30:11Speaker 3: apart buildings with beams fired from his eyes and horn,
- 30:16Speaker 3: and once he reaches the Nagoya TV Tower, he is
- 30:19Speaker 3: confronted by numerous tanks and the JDST Japanese Self Defense
- 30:24Speaker 3: Force JDST. They fail to wound Batra and then he
- 30:28Speaker 3: topples into the ocean and head starts heading towards the Philippines.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Soon after this is when Godzilla surfaces and begins to
- 30:35Speaker 3: approach Mathra's egg. The egg begins to crack, Mathra hatches
- 30:38Speaker 3: from it and they begin their fight. And as they're fighting,
- 30:42Speaker 3: this is when Batra approaches the area, who knocks Mathra
- 30:45Speaker 3: out of the way attacks Godzilla. These two monsters then
- 30:49Speaker 3: sink into the ocean floor, while Mathra swims back to
- 30:52Speaker 3: Infant Island, which is her little sanctuary. So Godzilla and
- 30:55Speaker 3: Batra struggle to on the ocean floor, and then a
- 30:58Speaker 3: fault opens between plates, expelling magma into the water and
- 31:03Speaker 3: they vanish into this fissure and from radar entirely. Then
- 31:08Speaker 3: they later emerge, which is really cool. Godzilla emerges from
- 31:12Speaker 3: Mount Fuji, which erupts violently, and then Batra just appears
- 31:16Speaker 3: from the fucking ocean. So both Godzilla and Batra approaching Tokyo.
- 31:20Speaker 3: Mathra emerges from her cocoon into her imago stage flies
- 31:24Speaker 3: off to destroy Batra once and for all. They fight
- 31:27Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But then Mathra sees Batra being wounded,
- 31:31Speaker 3: takes flight and lands near him, begins communicating with him.
- 31:34Speaker 3: The two monsters put aside their differences that they have
- 31:37Speaker 3: and decide to fight Godzilla together. Now, after all of
- 31:41Speaker 3: this battling takes place, Mathra and bat have defeated quote
- 31:46Speaker 3: unquote Godzilla and they're they're dragging him over the ocean.
- 31:50Speaker 3: But then Godzilla kills Batra and Mathra is forced to
- 31:53Speaker 3: release Godzilla into the water along with Batra's lifeless body.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Mathra then places a seal over the ocean, honoring Bacher's sacrifice.
- 32:02Speaker 3: The next day, Mathra sits at Hanita Airport or the Cosmos,
- 32:05Speaker 3: thank the humans who helped them and bid them farewell.
- 32:08Speaker 3: They explained that Batra was destined to destroy a meteor
- 32:11Speaker 3: set to strike and destroy Earth in nineteen ninety nine,
- 32:13Speaker 3: so Mathra agreed to take his place. In the event
- 32:16Speaker 3: of his death, Matha will fly into deep space and
- 32:19Speaker 3: try to change the meteors course herself. The Cosmos tells
- 32:22Speaker 3: humanity to remember the sacrifice Mathra has made for them,
- 32:25Speaker 3: then travel with Mathra into outer space, and that sets
- 32:28Speaker 3: up this journey is setting up the events that follow
- 32:32Speaker 3: in our movie. Today, it is theorized that when Mathra
- 32:35Speaker 3: is flying through the upper atmosphere on her way to space,
- 32:38Speaker 3: she unknowingly carries Godzilla's cells on her claws. These cells
- 32:42Speaker 3: are then to have said fallen into a black hole,
- 32:44Speaker 3: come out of a white hole, and space Godzilla. So
- 32:49Speaker 3: that is why Mathra is in the beginning of this movie.
- 32:53Speaker 3: So much researching this morning, my brain almost exploded.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah, the eras of the Toho Kaijo Kaiju movies is
- 33:05Speaker 2: really frustrating because if you only pick up one, there's
- 33:11Speaker 2: seventy five details from the rest of the era that
- 33:15Speaker 2: are going to confuse you. But you technically don't have
- 33:19Speaker 2: to watch the other ones for the movie you're watching
- 33:22Speaker 2: to make sense. But if you do watch the other ones,
- 33:25Speaker 2: the movie that you're watching will always make more sense.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Especially in the Heisai era, because there's only seven films
- 33:32Speaker 3: and they're a continuous story, which I didn't know, and
- 33:35Speaker 3: the High Si era started in eighty five with I
- 33:38Speaker 3: think it's like Godzilla returns or something like that. So
- 33:41Speaker 3: I had no fucking clue about that. And I'm gonna
- 33:43Speaker 3: have to go back and watch them insequential order because
- 33:46Speaker 3: they do continue a storyline. Now, I could have just
- 33:49Speaker 3: written Mathra off, but I it just genuinely confused me.
- 33:52Speaker 3: And then I regret it ever going down that rabbit
- 33:55Speaker 3: hole because I was cross referencing Wiki Zilla with Goji's
- 33:59Speaker 3: all these plays and came up with all of that.
- 34:01Speaker 3: So that's why she's there, right, that's her journey into
- 34:05Speaker 3: space to stop this metior from hitting Earth in nineteen
- 34:07Speaker 3: ninety nine, only to release the g cells that the
- 34:10Speaker 3: scientists are like, well a g cells, black holes and
- 34:14Speaker 3: fucking crystals space Godzilla. There you go. That's how we
- 34:20Speaker 3: get to there. And then you know, Baby Godzilla is
- 34:24Speaker 3: only around because he pops up. And the movie prior
- 34:28Speaker 3: to this, the Space Goddilla movie, they you know, they
- 34:32Speaker 3: find an egg on this island and it's like mistaken
- 34:35Speaker 3: for a rodin egg, and then it hatches and of
- 34:38Speaker 3: course it's a you know, it looks like Godzilla. And
- 34:41Speaker 3: after Godzilla, the baby Godilla hatches scientists use him as
- 34:45Speaker 3: bait to lure Godzilla into traps, and then by the
- 34:47Speaker 3: end of the film, the infant Godilla adopts the infant,
- 34:51Speaker 3: and the two you know leave together to find a
- 34:53Speaker 3: new home. But Little Godzilla in this movie is kind
- 34:57Speaker 3: of an emotional anchor and plot plot di because he
- 35:01Speaker 3: gets trapped by Space Godzilla, and I guess that's why
- 35:04Speaker 3: they're fighting, because Space Godzilla's coming to destroy Godzilla traps
- 35:07Speaker 3: his kid and then lures them into a fucking battle.
- 35:10Speaker 3: But then they don't even reunite. At the end of
- 35:12Speaker 3: the fucking movie. Godzilla just goes. Godzilla just goes into
- 35:15Speaker 3: the fucking ocean, and Space Guy and Little Godzilla's just
- 35:18Speaker 3: on the island, like, whoa, we did it. You're not
- 35:20Speaker 3: gonna come back and take care of your adopted child.
- 35:24Speaker 3: What's happening here? So anyways, I say all that to
- 35:28Speaker 3: say all of this, let's talk about the fucking movie itself.
- 35:31Speaker 3: My god, I have to say with that opening, I
- 35:36Speaker 3: mean the the just the effects from that opening alone,
- 35:39Speaker 3: with Space Godzilla flying through space, holy shit. I don't know.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I was.
- 35:43Speaker 3: I was immediately impressed. I couldn't believe it looks so good.
- 35:47Speaker 2: Yeah, for the time, all of the effects were phenomenal.
- 35:52Speaker 2: The explosions, every explosion that happened, I was like, fuck yeah.
- 35:57Speaker 3: There was just the.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Heavy Japanese sparking smoke. It just does something for me,
- 36:06Speaker 2: like like I know what, I know, it's one of
- 36:08Speaker 2: those I know how they're doing it, but they're doing
- 36:11Speaker 2: it and with such passion that it's like yeah.
- 36:15Speaker 3: I mean, there was so much. There was so much
- 36:17Speaker 3: good about the movie. Even, like I said, even from
- 36:21Speaker 3: the beginning when they're building that, I was confused because
- 36:24Speaker 3: I thought they were like building mecha Godzilla or something,
- 36:27Speaker 3: because it's just this giant metal robot thing, and I thought,
- 36:32Speaker 3: is this the wrong movie. No, it's a completely different
- 36:34Speaker 3: thing that's piloted by three people that comes into play
- 36:37Speaker 3: later in the movie. But Space Godilla itself is Jesus Christ.
- 36:42Speaker 3: I mean, he's covered in crystal organisms. You know, he
- 36:45Speaker 3: absorbed the energy of exploding stars. He rapidly evolved and
- 36:50Speaker 3: became what he is today. I mean that's not science
- 36:53Speaker 3: to me. He's like he should be on a heavy
- 36:56Speaker 3: metal album cover because that fucking look was so good.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Space Godzilla is, I would say space. Godzilla
- 37:05Speaker 2: after seeing this movie is probably in my top three
- 37:09Speaker 2: of Godzilla enemy looks.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Yeah, the only issue I had with the look is
- 37:16Speaker 3: that when he flew around, which I thought was cool,
- 37:19Speaker 3: he was covered had to tow in crystals and then
- 37:22Speaker 3: he lands and he only has like the two on
- 37:24Speaker 3: his shoulders and.
- 37:25Speaker 2: Think, yeah, he retracts the ones from his back. I
- 37:29Speaker 2: was okay, I was kind of bummed about that, But
- 37:33Speaker 2: with how they defeat him and the kind of plot
- 37:38Speaker 2: device that they use for that, it would have ruined
- 37:40Speaker 2: the fight if they had to break every single one
- 37:43Speaker 2: of those crystals. Yeah, it would have taken way too long.
- 37:49Speaker 2: And I think what they were trying to say is
- 37:53Speaker 2: this is how he flies through space without being noticed.
- 37:56Speaker 2: It looks just like a giant crystal meteor right through.
- 38:01Speaker 2: So then when he drops down, he's like, oh gotcha,
- 38:04Speaker 2: I'm not a.
- 38:04Speaker 3: Medior, I'm not a meteor. I'm this fucking space beast.
- 38:08Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, right off the rip with this movie,
- 38:11Speaker 3: I was impressed with the visuals. You know, he lands
- 38:13Speaker 3: and crash, the crash lands on Earth, waking Godzilla from
- 38:16Speaker 3: his nap. I mean, Godzilla's always seems to be napping
- 38:19Speaker 3: until something explosive wakes him up, and you know.
- 38:23Speaker 2: That Lodge almost almost like he is the uh, the
- 38:27Speaker 2: metaphor of the sleeping dragon.
- 38:31Speaker 3: Nice nice ten out of ten, no notes, And uh,
- 38:36Speaker 3: you know, even with the silly explanation that we get,
- 38:40Speaker 3: it just somehow perfectly fits into into it, like they
- 38:45Speaker 3: just commit to it, you know, and and and no
- 38:47Speaker 3: one apologizes for it. We just accept it, you know, like,
- 38:50Speaker 3: all right, sure, whatever, this is beyond my comprehension. We're
- 38:53Speaker 3: talking about giant monsters from space. Sure, whatever, and we
- 38:59Speaker 3: just move on. And then something else that we all
- 39:01Speaker 3: just accept and move on is the telepathy aspect, which
- 39:05Speaker 3: I dug deeper into a little bit because I was curious.
- 39:08Speaker 3: So this isn't the first iteration where telepathy has been used. Actually,
- 39:12Speaker 3: the first time that we see telepathy being used is
- 39:17Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty nine with Godzilla versus Biolante, played by
- 39:20Speaker 3: the same person who plays Miky. She actually is in
- 39:23Speaker 3: a six film run of the High Si era where
- 39:26Speaker 3: she plays the same character who has telepathic power. So
- 39:29Speaker 3: something that I thought was a fucking bullshit plot line
- 39:33Speaker 3: that made no sense is actually a concurrent theme through
- 39:37Speaker 3: six out of seven of the High Si films.
- 39:39Speaker 2: But that's also and that's why the cosmos talked to her,
- 39:43Speaker 2: because the cosmos can't talk to everybody. They there's like
- 39:46Speaker 2: a specific number of people they can talk to who
- 39:50Speaker 2: are somehow, for some reason connected to the Kaiju. Yeah,
- 39:55Speaker 2: and we just do remember that much.
- 39:57Speaker 3: And we just accept it because whatever, this is a
- 40:00Speaker 3: and this is a movie about giant monsters fighting each other.
- 40:02Speaker 3: Logic is kind of out of the window at this point.
- 40:05Speaker 3: So but I love it. It's like, why not control
- 40:08Speaker 3: Godzilla when you can just or you know, why, Yeah,
- 40:11Speaker 3: why control Godzilla? I'm fucking fucking all this up.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Why not? Why destroy Godzilla when you can control Godzilla?
- 40:19Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, And the idea is simple. It's
- 40:22Speaker 3: using telepathy to control Godzilla, which is interesting and like
- 40:26Speaker 3: I said, it's one of the franchise's longest running story threads.
- 40:30Speaker 3: She actually becomes a pretty meeky actually becomes a pretty
- 40:33Speaker 3: emotional anchor to the Highsi series. While monsters a military
- 40:37Speaker 3: are constantly changed, constantly trying to defeat things, she remains
- 40:41Speaker 3: the one person trying to bridge the gap between humanity
- 40:45Speaker 3: and Godzilla. And that was a layer of this movie.
- 40:47Speaker 3: I didn't expect. I'm realizing that Godzilla movies, at least
- 40:52Speaker 3: from the earlier eras you know, like I've only really
- 40:55Speaker 3: seen the Monster Verse movies. Like I said, there's a
- 40:57Speaker 3: lot of depth, commentary, subtext. It's so much going on
- 41:02Speaker 3: in all of these movies that I was not expecting.
- 41:04Speaker 3: I just figured it was shit fight a nother shit.
- 41:07Speaker 3: But I loved how much story there is in this movie,
- 41:11Speaker 3: albeit maybe a little too much at times. But I
- 41:15Speaker 3: did enjoy the telepathy once I did some research, because
- 41:18Speaker 3: that's the thing I do. If something seems out of place,
- 41:21Speaker 3: I'm like, I go to the Internet for questions. That's
- 41:23Speaker 3: what I did with Mathra, That's what I did with
- 41:25Speaker 3: the telepathy, and ultimately I got answers and I was like, Okay,
- 41:28Speaker 3: I can accept this now because I have context for
- 41:32Speaker 3: what's actually going on here.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and the amount of story behind Godzilla movies it
- 41:40Speaker 2: is surprising, right, But then you get then you got
- 41:42Speaker 2: to go back and think, well, the original Godzilla movie
- 41:45Speaker 2: was made as a commentary on what nuclear weapons did
- 41:50Speaker 2: to Japan, right, So it would almost be disingenuous to
- 41:58Speaker 2: not have some kind of deeper story component going on
- 42:03Speaker 2: in the background, because you can't say, oh, this is
- 42:07Speaker 2: why nukes are bad and then not have anything to
- 42:11Speaker 2: follow up with it.
- 42:13Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also really do love how in the
- 42:15Speaker 3: early days of Godzilla he is seen as a threat
- 42:17Speaker 3: to Japan, and over time he slowly becomes Japan's ally
- 42:21Speaker 3: fighting off other monsters from space. So the evolution of
- 42:25Speaker 3: him is actually really cool to watch. And I just
- 42:30Speaker 3: I just bought like six other Godzilla movies on Amazon
- 42:33Speaker 3: today because I'm like, all right, I've gotta if the
- 42:35Speaker 3: HYSI era is all one one story, I'm like, i
- 42:38Speaker 3: gotta go through this and get all the details because
- 42:41Speaker 3: I'm so curious. So unfortunately, though the Project t is
- 42:45Speaker 3: what they called it, Project Celepathy ultimately fails. But that's
- 42:49Speaker 3: partly the point. The movie repeatedly asks whether humanity is
- 42:53Speaker 3: a positioned with controlling nature is fundamentally flawed. I mean,
- 42:55Speaker 3: you really can't control him. We can barely understand him, right,
- 42:59Speaker 3: And that's that's what I think is really cool because
- 43:01Speaker 3: it kind of goes back to the nineteen fifty four
- 43:04Speaker 3: original movie where they have that same discussion almost It's
- 43:08Speaker 3: like this the one scientist wants to keep Godzilla around
- 43:11Speaker 3: because they don't understand him, and they want to find
- 43:14Speaker 3: out more. But then the other people are like, now
- 43:16Speaker 3: we got to kill him, because like he's gonna destroy everything.
- 43:18Speaker 3: So I felt a connection between that movie and this
- 43:21Speaker 3: movie with not being able to understand this thing, but
- 43:25Speaker 3: adding the layer of wanting to try and control him
- 43:29Speaker 3: so that way he doesn't fucking wreck everything. Trying to
- 43:32Speaker 3: dominate forces larger than yourselves ultimately is just going to
- 43:35Speaker 3: create a bigger disaster in the end, And yeah, it's
- 43:39Speaker 3: kind of what happens. Because speaking of disasters, I mean,
- 43:42Speaker 3: we got to talk about all those fucking sets that
- 43:45Speaker 3: got utterly demolished by three huge, fucking beasts. I wasn't
- 43:51Speaker 3: expecting a third party here. I just thought it was
- 43:55Speaker 3: Space Godzilla versus Godzilla. But you have Maguera which or mcgwey,
- 44:00Speaker 3: I can never say it right, Mogherra. Mogherra, which is
- 44:04Speaker 3: the Jay Japan Self Defense jsdt's kind of answer to
- 44:11Speaker 3: help combat Space Godzilla and those practical effects when they're
- 44:17Speaker 3: building it, when it's transforming into two separate pieces, when
- 44:21Speaker 3: it's flying around in space and battling with Space Godzilla.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Fucking so genuinely impressed by all of those miniatures and
- 44:29Speaker 3: how it looked because they nailed the scale. I mean
- 44:35Speaker 3: seeing the two giant monsters against the backdrop of the miniatures,
- 44:38Speaker 3: it fucking looks so good. And this is nineteen ninety four.
- 44:43Speaker 3: I was blown away with the progression. Obviously it's forty
- 44:46Speaker 3: years later since the original, but going straight from the
- 44:49Speaker 3: fifty four to this one, the improvement of how good
- 44:53Speaker 3: it looks was utterly jaw dropping to me.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Yeah, the forced camera perspective that they do, Like there
- 45:02Speaker 2: was there was a point where they're putting together Gomera
- 45:06Speaker 2: and I'm like, how did they get the camera to
- 45:09Speaker 2: do that right? Because I know that like nine of
- 45:14Speaker 2: this is not CG like they are doing this practically.
- 45:18Speaker 2: How are they doing that? Like the hole where they're
- 45:21Speaker 2: running it through the tunnel and then you see these
- 45:24Speaker 2: big metal doors and it all comes together like clicking in.
- 45:28Speaker 2: I was like, what, Yeah, how are they doing that?
- 45:32Speaker 3: I love the moment too, when they are in there
- 45:34Speaker 3: towards the end and the space Godzilla is kind of
- 45:37Speaker 3: destroying them, so they're like, all right, let's separate. So
- 45:40Speaker 3: they separate into a flying part of Maguera and then
- 45:44Speaker 3: one that just like it dives underground and the you know,
- 45:47Speaker 3: the fucking shields go over the windows and they're just underground,
- 45:50Speaker 3: trucking along, and then they pop up right next to
- 45:52Speaker 3: him and they're like attacking him from the air, attacking
- 45:54Speaker 3: him from the ground. Godzilla's blasting fire beams at him.
- 45:58Speaker 3: That fucking ending the ending sequence, the ending fight sequence
- 46:04Speaker 3: was genuinely one of the greatest things I've seen. Of course, again,
- 46:08Speaker 3: have not been well versed in Kaiju movies, but damn
- 46:12Speaker 3: that with all the crystal spikes everywhere that he's drawing.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Oh my god. And then there's that wide shot of
- 46:20Speaker 3: the miniatures with all three of them and the crystal spikes,
- 46:23Speaker 3: and I was like, bro, this is fucking good, Like
- 46:25Speaker 3: this is a good movie. I was not expecting this
- 46:28Speaker 3: to be good. I saw the three point zero out
- 46:30Speaker 3: of five on letterbox, but I didn't know if that
- 46:32Speaker 3: was just love for the franchise, but no, Legitimately, this
- 46:36Speaker 3: movie fucking rocked so much. I was not expecting to
- 46:39Speaker 3: love this as much as I did. But Godzilla's landing
- 46:45Speaker 3: on the shoreline has tremendous scale. Watching him emerge from
- 46:49Speaker 3: the water, he feels massive. I know in the original
- 46:53Speaker 3: movie he was projected to be about one hundred and
- 46:56Speaker 3: sixty five feet. I didn't research that on this one,
- 46:58Speaker 3: but I mean, he's towering over skyscraper, so motherfucker's huge.
- 47:03Speaker 3: The miniature landscapes, the movements of the monsters, it all
- 47:06Speaker 3: combines into something that to this day, what thirty two
- 47:10Speaker 3: years later or twenty eight whatever, math still looks impressive.
- 47:14Speaker 3: I mean, I again, I'm gonna I'm gonna harken back
- 47:18Speaker 3: to you how blown away I was by especially the ending,
- 47:21Speaker 3: the ending battle sequence. I mean, the effects are good
- 47:23Speaker 3: throughout the entire movie, but that ending sequence, with all
- 47:26Speaker 3: the explosions and just how much is going on, I
- 47:29Speaker 3: didn't feel like it was too overwhelming. I just it
- 47:32Speaker 3: just felt like one of the most the greatest action
- 47:34Speaker 3: sequences I had seen and quite some time, of just
- 47:37Speaker 3: two giant things beating the shit out of each other.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Every time it's the kaiju action on the screen, it's great,
- 47:45Speaker 2: But all the human action, I'm like, come on now,
- 47:49Speaker 2: like and very specifically, when what's his face has the
- 47:54Speaker 2: giant coagulant bullet blood coagulant bullet and loads it into
- 48:01Speaker 2: the tiniest submachine gun and all the weapon firing from them.
- 48:08Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, this dumb.
- 48:10Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because there's also this weird moment towards the
- 48:13Speaker 3: beginning of the film that was a little confusing because
- 48:15Speaker 3: obviously Miki is trying to plant that device on Godzilla
- 48:21Speaker 3: for Project Tea, but then you have the other guy
- 48:24Speaker 3: who's trying to destroy Godzilla at the same time, and
- 48:27Speaker 3: I'm like, why are we not all on the same
- 48:29Speaker 3: team here, So when you first see Godzilla come onto
- 48:33Speaker 3: the shore, you've got two different people for two different reasons,
- 48:36Speaker 3: trying to get at Godzilla. But yeah, that was pretty
- 48:40Speaker 3: funny because that bullet was like thirty yacht fucking six
- 48:43Speaker 3: going into like an MP five and really did make much.
- 48:46Speaker 2: It was closer to like a BMG size.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Yeah. So, now, of course the miniatures are not the
- 48:57Speaker 3: only visually distinct things here. The monsters two, you know,
- 49:01Speaker 3: coming from coming off the heels for me, of the
- 49:04Speaker 3: fifty four Godzilla into this one forty years later. Obviously,
- 49:08Speaker 3: the suit designed is much more detailed. Proportions are refined
- 49:12Speaker 3: just a little bit. The facial animation was so much
- 49:15Speaker 3: more expressive, and I noticed that they focused on his
- 49:19Speaker 3: face a lot more where in the original they showed it,
- 49:22Speaker 3: but they didn't show it as close up as much
- 49:25Speaker 3: as they did in this one, and they were probably
- 49:27Speaker 3: just because like, we this looks good. We got to
- 49:30Speaker 3: showcase this shit. I think his I think the size
- 49:34Speaker 3: was communicated so well in this one. Obviously it had
- 49:37Speaker 3: been a big gap between the two, but he he
- 49:41Speaker 3: felt powerful just standing still, just sitting there, just like.
- 49:45Speaker 2: Slowly moh yeah. Oh. It's like especially especially like when
- 49:49Speaker 2: he's like plodding around along the beach and you just
- 49:52Speaker 2: see him kind of walking, You're like, oh man, god
- 49:56Speaker 2: Zilla is fucking huge? Is And I really like that you.
- 50:00Speaker 2: I can definitely tell in this one that somebody in
- 50:04Speaker 2: the costume department was like, we gotta make sure actor
- 50:08Speaker 2: can actually move.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Yeah, because the original one he's a little he's a
- 50:14Speaker 3: little robotic, but yeah, shambly, shambly, there you go. The
- 50:19Speaker 3: movements in this were a lot better. And I mean,
- 50:22Speaker 3: of course they've spent years redefining this character's appearance, but
- 50:26Speaker 3: I feel like this film showcases the benefits of that evolution.
- 50:30Speaker 3: But let's be honest, I mean, space Godzilla totally steals
- 50:33Speaker 3: a show. Because as for me right now, definitely the
- 50:37Speaker 3: best monster I've seen. I do love Godora, I do
- 50:40Speaker 3: love rodin those, you know, I'm a huge fan of Gamera.
- 50:44Speaker 3: But Space Godzilla just looks incredible because obviously he looks
- 50:50Speaker 3: very similar to Godzilla. He's just the death metal version
- 50:53Speaker 3: of Godzilla in his like you know, in his era
- 50:58Speaker 3: of chaos. That didn't make any sense, but that's what
- 51:01Speaker 3: came out, you know, the the crystal covered shoulders immediately
- 51:05Speaker 3: distinguish him from other Godzilla variants or other other Godzilla
- 51:13Speaker 3: what do you call it, villains, whatever you want to
- 51:15Speaker 3: call it, fucking enemies. There we go. The silhouette I
- 51:18Speaker 3: feel is iconic. His glowing eyes, the the like orange
- 51:23Speaker 3: lightning breath. That's the best way I can describe it.
- 51:26Speaker 3: That shit was next level. Oh my god.
- 51:29Speaker 2: I also really liked that they were like, you know what,
- 51:33Speaker 2: Godzilla doesn't have enough of teeth, right, We're gonna give
- 51:38Speaker 2: the Space Godzilla all the teeth. He had teeth coming
- 51:42Speaker 2: out of his cheeks. He had teeth coming out like everywhere,
- 51:46Speaker 2: and you can you can really see that, like, oh,
- 51:48Speaker 2: this is a true bastardization of Godzilla, Like this is
- 51:53Speaker 2: this is every bad part of Godzilla just crammed onto
- 51:59Speaker 2: one space crystal.
- 52:01Speaker 3: And that's exactly how I felt. It felt like the
- 52:03Speaker 3: complete opposite, Like Bizarro Superman is Superman's complete opposite. This
- 52:08Speaker 3: is exactly how I felt about Space Godzilla. He is
- 52:11Speaker 3: the complete opposite of everything Godzilla is with the same
- 52:14Speaker 3: amount of destruction, if not more. But you know, he
- 52:17Speaker 3: of course he has they they do find the weak
- 52:19Speaker 3: point on him, but he also has the utilization of
- 52:22Speaker 3: all those crystals, which kind of helped. He almost has
- 52:24Speaker 3: like a force field at one point, because.
- 52:27Speaker 2: Yeah, when he shot up that force field, when Godzilla
- 52:31Speaker 2: threw his first atomic breath, I was like, all right,
- 52:34Speaker 2: you're fucking cheating now.
- 52:35Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, you've got cheat codes in now
- 52:38Speaker 3: and I don't know how many times at least used.
- 52:40Speaker 3: I don't think they use it much more, but it might.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Have just used twice.
- 52:44Speaker 3: That might have been a thing like I can only
- 52:47Speaker 3: do this so many times before I drain the power
- 52:49Speaker 3: of these crystals. That's kind of what I That's just
- 52:52Speaker 3: kind of what I assumed, because yeah, having him do
- 52:54Speaker 3: that every time would would just be like, you know,
- 52:56Speaker 3: fucking cheat mode. But yeah, oh I love Space Godzilla
- 53:02Speaker 3: and I love that he can fly it looks a
- 53:05Speaker 3: little goofy, but I love that he's flying and Summons.
- 53:08Speaker 2: Does kind of look like a giant hedgehog flying through
- 53:12Speaker 2: the sky.
- 53:12Speaker 3: And then when he just like levitates too. There's one
- 53:15Speaker 3: moment where he just levitates above and it's a wide
- 53:19Speaker 3: shot of him levitating with Godzilla right there, and then
- 53:21Speaker 3: he starts to spin and I was like, this is cinema.
- 53:24Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say about that, but
- 53:28Speaker 3: he just has such an incredible look, and I really
- 53:32Speaker 3: love the even the design of the Morguera as well.
- 53:36Speaker 3: It's it's a fun little thing. It's it's like a
- 53:39Speaker 3: toy that you had as a kid, you know. It's
- 53:40Speaker 3: like it's like a transport. It's like a transformer.
- 53:43Speaker 2: I I did think that Moghera was a little lame,
- 53:49Speaker 2: but only in the sense that I feel like they
- 53:52Speaker 2: tried to do too much with Moghera. Correct like, all right,
- 53:57Speaker 2: it's a giant mech and it's a space ship and
- 54:01Speaker 2: it can split off into two things that run independently,
- 54:05Speaker 2: and for some reason, once you blow it up, you
- 54:08Speaker 2: can just make it get back up. Yeah, that was
- 54:11Speaker 2: kind There's one point where Molgera is definitely down for
- 54:16Speaker 2: the count. The entire crew is shambling just to get
- 54:21Speaker 2: the engine not to blow up, and then they go,
- 54:24Speaker 2: oh no, it's time to really lock in, hit the button,
- 54:27Speaker 2: get back up. And then it's like, all right, but
- 54:29Speaker 2: didn't you just show me that you guys were down
- 54:32Speaker 2: for the count? Like what's going on?
- 54:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, shit was hanging from the ceilings like
- 54:37Speaker 3: I thought we were done, and then they kept going.
- 54:39Speaker 3: I also thought it got destroyed in Space versus Space Godzilla,
- 54:43Speaker 3: but as I went back to rewatch, it did not.
- 54:46Speaker 3: But whatever, that's beside the point. But it's just again
- 54:48Speaker 3: something that we're just accepting in this universe. I've already
- 54:51Speaker 3: accepted the telepathy. I've already accepted the explanation for how
- 54:54Speaker 3: Godzilla came to be. Fucking at this point, whatever, If
- 54:58Speaker 3: this thing is somehow in just destructible and just can
- 55:01Speaker 3: reconfigure itself, do I like it?
- 55:03Speaker 1: No?
- 55:04Speaker 3: But I mean I kind of just accepted it. But
- 55:06Speaker 3: I do feel like that, you know, it was it
- 55:08Speaker 3: was a little bit of an unnecessary addition. I don't
- 55:11Speaker 3: feel we needed it, But in the moments that it worked,
- 55:15Speaker 3: it fucking worked for me, So I can't blame I
- 55:18Speaker 3: can't blame the movie for adding it, but I feel
- 55:22Speaker 3: it wasn't you know, necessary for it to be in
- 55:25Speaker 3: the film. And speaking of unnecessary things to be in
- 55:28Speaker 3: the film, I mean, baby Godzilla, little Godzilla, whatever the
- 55:32Speaker 3: fuck you want to call it. Uh. Is he a
- 55:34Speaker 3: little dirty? Sure? Is he adorable kind of, but really
- 55:39Speaker 3: he's only there as the inciting incident to get Godzilla
- 55:43Speaker 3: to attack Space Godzilla other than you know, I guess
- 55:46Speaker 3: Space Godzilla threatening you know, his territory. But he gets
- 55:50Speaker 3: trapped in those little crystal fucking what's the thing from
- 55:56Speaker 3: Star Wars that pit that either sarlac pit he gets, Yeah,
- 56:00Speaker 3: he gets sucking in like a crystallized Sarlac pit. So
- 56:03Speaker 3: Godzilla is like, not, ah, not my kid. So I
- 56:06Speaker 3: felt the addition of him was weird, But they the
- 56:09Speaker 3: reason that they kept using him is that, you know,
- 56:12Speaker 3: because this by this time, this is made for adults
- 56:15Speaker 3: and kids, and there was such a positive response to
- 56:18Speaker 3: baby Godzilla, little Godzilla, whatever you want to call him.
- 56:21Speaker 3: That's why they continue to use him. So in this
- 56:23Speaker 3: instance it felt a little forced, but they're giving the
- 56:26Speaker 3: people with not only.
- 56:27Speaker 2: That, not only that, but there was and seeing this
- 56:31Speaker 2: baby Godzilla set me into a not an astalgia freakout, okay,
- 56:39Speaker 2: but like it triggered a memory that then triggered like
- 56:43Speaker 2: the sequential series of chemicals through my brain. And I
- 56:48Speaker 2: was like, wait, why do I remember hating Baby Godzilla
- 56:53Speaker 2: so much? And it's because of the nineteen seventy eight
- 56:58Speaker 2: animated TV series got Zilla, which I think is one
- 57:02Speaker 2: of the first appearances of Baby Godzilla.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, So I.
- 57:07Speaker 2: Remember liking that show, and every time Baby Godzilla popped up,
- 57:09Speaker 2: I was like, mean, fuck this shit.
- 57:11Speaker 3: But it was an animated show. You said it was.
- 57:14Speaker 2: An animated show, Yeah, Godzilla, nineteen seventy eight TV series, gotcha,
- 57:18Speaker 2: it was a Hannah Barbara cartoon.
- 57:21Speaker 3: Actually whoa name drop and love that. So yeah, he
- 57:25Speaker 3: felt kind of useless in this movie outside of the
- 57:28Speaker 3: things I mentioned. He pops up at the beginning, he
- 57:30Speaker 3: pops up at the end, blah blah blah blah, something
- 57:32Speaker 3: else that really didn't need it to be added to
- 57:36Speaker 3: this movie in my opinion. Other than that, though, I think, Oh,
- 57:42Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about, yeah real quick, the effects
- 57:45Speaker 3: because obviously from nineteen fifty four Godzilla was kind of
- 57:50Speaker 3: just breathing this mist that was that was radioactive miss
- 57:54Speaker 3: I mean in this one, he's got the full blown
- 57:57Speaker 3: blue beam. His spine is lighting up. Godzilla has this orange,
- 58:01Speaker 3: like I said, lightning attack. He generates massive crystal formations.
- 58:06Speaker 3: He can you know, he can create shields, he got
- 58:09Speaker 3: space Gozilla is like a Kaiju wizard if you think
- 58:12Speaker 3: about it. I mean, yeah, all this shit he can do.
- 58:15Speaker 3: So there's just so many more significant energy effects here
- 58:22Speaker 3: that were working for me. I really enjoyed all of them,
- 58:26Speaker 3: and I really did. I like the fact that I
- 58:29Speaker 3: did such a big jump because watching them over time,
- 58:32Speaker 3: it's not it's not like it's the wrong way to
- 58:34Speaker 3: do it, but having such a big jump and seeing
- 58:38Speaker 3: where they were to where they are, I was like, damn,
- 58:41Speaker 3: now I want to go back and see how they
- 58:43Speaker 3: got here, because good lord, those effects were so incredible.
- 58:47Speaker 3: I love orange lightning effects or any sort of lightning
- 58:50Speaker 3: effects where they have to literally draw on the film, yeah,
- 58:53Speaker 3: painted on the film to do that. It's like it's
- 58:56Speaker 3: like the movie constantly feels like it's trying to outdo
- 58:59Speaker 3: it self visual lee, and I feel like it succeeded
- 59:02Speaker 3: because that ending fighting sequence was worth any moment that
- 59:06Speaker 3: I didn't like in the movie, Oh my god, I
- 59:09Speaker 3: fucking love that ship.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no one, the the the ending fight sequence,
- 59:14Speaker 2: and really, I'm gonna say all of the fight sequences
- 59:17Speaker 2: really saved the downfalls that I didn't like, Okay, especially
- 59:22Speaker 2: in the editing, which now that I've brought that up,
- 59:25Speaker 2: the two perfect where I'm like where I'm like, all right,
- 59:30Speaker 2: what the fuck was this guy doing? Sure, the there
- 59:33Speaker 2: was one part where one of the pieces of Gomera
- 59:39Speaker 2: is like flying away and you have this like swell
- 59:44Speaker 2: of music plan and then it just smash cuts to
- 59:48Speaker 2: something else, like the music drops out and I'm like, wait,
- 59:52Speaker 2: what happened just then? And then there's there's a few
- 59:55Speaker 2: other instances of like the camera showing us something and
- 59:59Speaker 2: then within like a second smash cutting to something else.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: There were there were no fades, there were like it
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: was all almost all smash cut transitions, okay, And it
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: felt very jostled, for lack of a better term, I gotcha,
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: Like there were a lot of sequences where like something
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: would happen and it was like directly to the next
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: scene that is back on Monster Island and whatnot, and
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: it's like, wait, but what happened in between. There's there's
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: just not enough cohesive editing, Like it's just here's a thing.
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. Now there's the thing. Go over
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: there and do that thing.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something I actually didn't notice. But I always
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: love when you pick up on things because obviously this
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: is gonna be a uh, this is gonna be a
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: standard watch in my house. So now now that you've
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: pointed that out, it'll be something I look for because
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: I think I was just so wrapped up in the movie.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: I sometimes, you know, I don't notice things because I
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: get enveloped in the story of the movie or I
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: look down to take no. So it's entirely possible I
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: missed some of those because anytime someone stopped talking, I'm
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: like notes, notes, notes, notes, notes, Like yeah, that's all
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: I gotta do.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: One one other thing, just completely random, has nothing to
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: do with anything, because it had been a while, like
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: it had been a long, long while since I had
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: watched a classic Godzilla movie, okay, and the the amount
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: of chemicals that fired off in my brain when I
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: made the connection of the Godzilla theme to Pharaoh Mounches,
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: Simon says, I was like, oh my god, that's where
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: that's from.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly why when I did the episode or
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: the monthly episode announcement, I picked that song so people
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: would be like, what does this have to do with gods?
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the Godzilla theme. He's sampled.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: All all videos on Facebook For me, I just permamute,
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: so like I never see what audio is playing. I
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: just see the image.
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: It was on TikTok and Instagram as well, because that's
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: the I do. I did it from Instagram because that's
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: where you can pick the music and then well, I
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: don't know if that actually if the music translates over
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: to Facebook, but I know I did it on TikTok
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: and endstyle, I was like, this is it.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: I only watched the tiktoks where you and whoever is
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: on his talk.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so that's why I did it for that
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: episode because most people don't know. And this is so
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: I didn't hear that in the original film. It is
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: prevalent here and I love to hear that. So now
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: I gotta go back and actually, you know, watch through
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: and chronologically as I can to see when we actually
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: got the Godzilla theme and they don't overplay it at all,
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: but something that they did overplay was the goddamn roar. Okay,
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: it's weird to me that in nineteen fifty four Godzilla
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: had a much more vocal range, and then in this film,
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: for some reason, it's just press button, press button, pressed, like,
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: same fucking sound. There were a little variations here and there,
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: but for the most part, it was the same fucking
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: audio clip over and over. And I found that very
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: interesting because I was impressed at the fact that the
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: nineteen fifty four version had had a pretty wide range
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: of noises from him. But I think at this point
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: and the Godzilla they're just like fuck it, Like, just
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: just throw it in there like this, We're not.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Worried about I've got I've got the answer for it.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Oh tell me, Because I don't know if you've ever
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: been to any kind of metaphysical shop ever, but crystals
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: are fucking expensive. They probably spent a huge portion of
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: the budget on Space Godzilla because they are they already
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: had the Godzilla suit. They were like, Yo, we just
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: gotta we all gotta do just carve off some foam
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: and repaint the Godzilla suit updated a little bit. Yeah,
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: that's like, that's like two hundred bucks. Yeah, fucking Space
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Godzilla like and and the nine thou in crystals that
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: they had to place along the miniatures. Oh, and all
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: these crystals have to have fucking either robot arms or
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: we gotta attach them on strings so fucking Space Godzilla
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: can do a final fantasy move I mean magic missile.
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: It did have a ten million dollar budget, which for
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four, I mean, that's pretty solid budget on it.
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie a couple other things that that
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: didn't work for me. I mean hour and forty six
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: is a little bit longer for a Godzilla movie than
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: I want.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: And there's only like three minutes of credits. It is. Yeah,
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: it is almost a full hour forty.
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: Six right exactly. You know. Some some viewers will appreciate
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: the expanded storytelling. Others might feel it's stretching. I just
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: felt that the pacing was a little uneven. It it's
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: probably the movie's biggest I say flaw with quotes because
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: it's not like it detracted from anything. Because by the
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: time that we got to the end, I was like,
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: I don't whatever, I whatever problems I had fucking don't
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: care about. This movie is awesome because it never comes boring.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: I just feel it struggles with momentum in some places here,
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: So I think that all I have here going through.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So I guess really kind of how this
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: fits into the High SI Era is that it's an
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: interesting place kind of in horror history when it comes
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: to America, because obviously America was shifting towards from slashers,
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: towards self aware, you know, meta movies, and Godzilla was
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: just embracing this increasingly serious science fiction storytelling. The High
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: SI Era treated its monsters almost like natural disasters or
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: forces of cosmic horror. Because space Godzilla oddly kind of
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: feels like a love love crafty and concept disguised as
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: a wrestling as a wrestling opponent. Does that make any sense?
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that does not make any sense.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: Like he's an incomprehensible cosmic entity arriving from deep space
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: that defies science and threatens global extinction. Like that is
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: horror just wrapped in a giant monster. I'm surprised it's
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: not labeled horror, but I understand why it's not. I mean,
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: it's marketed for all ages at this point. But yeah,
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: I think the High sight Films balanced awe and terror
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: in this movie very well, and this might be one
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: of the best examples, at least that I've seen. But again,
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: please let me harken back to not very experienced in
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: this So even though this movie might be illogical, not
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: the fastest paced, it is certainly entertaining. I mean, you've
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: got psychic warfare, giant robots, cosmic mutations, crystal fortresses, incredible miniatures,
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: and one of the coolest monster designers the franchises has produced.
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: It is a movie that fully embraces the absurdity of
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: its premise while delivering some of the most visually impressive
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: Kaiju action of the High Site era. And yeah, I
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: mean that's I think that's all I've got. It's funny
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: that I genuinely thought these episodes this month we're gonna
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: be shorter, because I'm like, how much can we talk about, uh,
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: two monsters fighting? And so far.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: Everything you can say everything about two monsters fighting.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: Well, and so far they've been the longest episodes of
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: the year almost. I mean, I think Michael and I's
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: episode was like an hour thirty. We're already at an
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: hour ten and we're wrapping up like I did not
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: expect these to be the longest, longest episodes. But here
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: we are any final thoughts, closing arguments, hot tags, questions, comments, concerns.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: You know, the the Godzilla movies are such a cultural
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: touchstone in film now that even if it's not for you,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: go check out any of them, right, they all have
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: something to give to you. And it's not just oh,
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: big monster fight other big monster. Yeah, now you can
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: watch it for that, and it's perfectly fine. But if
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: you if you get down into Godzilla, you're gonna find
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: something that's gonna that's gonna touch you in some way.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: I agree, And my plan obviously this month is not
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: only just to watch the movies that we are covering,
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: but to watch as many as I possibly can, just
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: because I'm realizing this is an untapped genre that I
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: have not explored enough. And it's probably because the first
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: introduction I had to Kaidu, I want to say, was
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: probably Destroy All Monsters, which by all accounts is not great.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: From my memory, we both did not like that movie
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: when we reviewed it. There was like six hundred monsters. Yeah,
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: it was a little much. So now I've got to
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: go go dive into the you know, like the heavy
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: hitters like Godzilla Versus Destroyer, and you know, all these bigger,
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: well rated movies. But that's all I've got, That's all
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: Corey has got. I haven't had a hot take in
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: a while, but I'm not gonna be able to have
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: a hot take during this month because yeah, it's it's
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: all new territory for me. So let's move into the
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: final cut, all right? Taglines A supernatural, superpowered intergalactic epic
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: that is too many too Mu's going on? And can
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: Godzilla save Japan from intergalactic evil trivia? This film feature
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: is Moguera, a remake of the robot Kaiju from The
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: Mysterians nineteen fifty seven. For this nineteen ninety four version,
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: Moguera is an acronym for Mobile Operation G Force Universal
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: Expot Robot Aero type. Fucking jeez. This was Godzilla's fortieth
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: anniversary movie. Unlike other Milestone films, this one is often overlooked,
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: possibly due to its rush production. Hey, maybe that explains
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: the editing. The American Probably the American Godzilla nineteen ninety
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: eight adaptation was meant to come out in nineteen ninety four,
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: but its production was delayed. Therefore, Toho had to produce
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: more Godzilla movies in order to keep the brain going.
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: It was, however, the second highest grossing domestic release of
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: the year. This one doesn't make sense because they definitely
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: make contact. It says Godzilla and Space Godzilla never physically
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: make contact during their fight, but they literally slap each
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: other in the face a few times, so that's that's
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: that's not right. The Godzilla suit was outfitted with a
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: motor that allowed the head to move side to side,
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: and Space Godzilla's roar is a modified version of Guygan's roar.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Goof's nothing I could find of value. They were all
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: just very boring or silly. Rated five point eight out
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: of ten on IMDb for our purposes of the Nightmare index,
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: that is a two point nine out of five. It
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: has a three point zero out of five on Letterbox,
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: a sixty three percent on the Tomato Meter, and a
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: seventy nine percent audience score. What do we give on
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: this one, Corey, I gave it a three A three. Okay,
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: I gave it a four, which gives us a nightmare
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: index of three point two three. Where are we falling
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: here on the list. Let's scroll down three point two
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: to three. So this is going to fall in between
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: two movies that are tied with a three point three
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: to four out of five, which is Megan and the
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: Puppet Masters and from nineteen seventy three with a three
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: point one three out of five. So that is sitting
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: comfortably in the fifteenth spot. I want to say, out
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: of twenty something movies we've done, let's see similar movies
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: according to IMDb, Godzilla versus Mega Godzilla two, Godzilla Versus Destroyer,
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: Godzilla and Mathro, The Battle for Earth, Godzili versus King Goadora,
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: and Godzilla Tokyo SOS. Similar movies according to Letterbox, we
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: have Godzilla Final Wars, Godzilla versus Guy Gan, Godzilla, Tokyo SOS,
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: Godzilla Versus Mega Godzilla, and Pacific Rim. Let's do some
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: funny reviews before we get out of here. How many
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: do you have? Good sir?
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: I only got four this go around.
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: Only got four.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: That's fine because most of the reviews were fucking college dissertations.
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: Yeah, which, like, I can't be mad at people for
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: you know, I do that every now and again, But
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, you know, when I just want to
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: read a funny quippy review. Could you just help me
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: out here? All right? So why don't you go ahead
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: and kick us off here all righte?
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: A one star review from Clinton ninety five. Struggled to
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: stay awake on this one?
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a shame. What was the rating on
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: that one?
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: A one star?
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: One star? Struggle to stay awake? Maybe you were too sleepy,
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: let's see three stars from sindem a Void Crystal Meth.
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: Godzilla sets up shop in Tokyo and gets Baby Godzilla
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: hooked on ice while his father and Mecca uncle try
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: to get him into rehab.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: A one star review from Mitch's Movies. Space Godzilla is
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: potentially the lamest idea ever for an adult to have,
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: which I say to you, sir, good day.
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: Let's see here. Where'd my other one go? Two and
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: a half stars from Kyler the film Fox Hot Take.
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: But Baby Godzilla is cuter than baby Yoda, and I
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: have to highly disagree there, but hey, to each his own.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: A five star and a heart from Road Kiln. They
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: put my son in gay baby jail. What the fuck?
- 1:13:38Speaker 3: Let's see what was it? Three and a half stars
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: from Zach Dot Blonded Space Godzilla flew in and immediately
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: started throwing hands at a baby. That's how I knew
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: he'd beat my goat.
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: A five star and a heart from Matthew You he's
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: not the step dad, He's the dad that's stepped up. Ah.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: So it's so heartwarming. I love it. Last one for
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: me here two and a half stars from Astounding bb
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: G Force tear gas as a child in this one.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: Every time I hear G Force, I just think of
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: that awful Hamster movie, Guinea Pig movie, whatever the fuck
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: that was. Everyone forgot about that. Probably no one knows
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- 1:15:00Speaker 3: Seafood Wars from twenty twenty as our modern pick. It
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: is streaming on Prime Plex and two B. And this
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: was the only Kaiju movie I could find from the
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: you know, like the last five or six years that
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: was actually guys in big, giant suits. No CG to
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: my knowledge, or at least when it comes to the monsters,
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: they're all practical people in suits. So I was like, fuck, yeah,
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: let's do this. The premise sounds ridiculous, So please go
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: watch that because I'm sure it's gonna be a riot.
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