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Bills presser was WILD, Bakers gets MAD, 49ers Practice Facility · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
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  Speaker 1: and out podcast. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's having
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  Speaker 1: a great day out there in the real world, raising
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  Speaker 1: your children, enjoying life, staying warm. If you're in a
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  Speaker 1: cold weather city, we'd like to meet to meet today
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  Speaker 1: in Scottsdale was a little chillier about sixty five. Had
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  Speaker 1: to put on a little hoodie. But we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to start this podcast with what happened in Buffalo because
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  Speaker 1: that press conference was was fireworks. You don't get those
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  Speaker 1: too often, and I thought, let's do a little NFL
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  Speaker 1: rapid fire from Buffalo to McCarthy interviewing with the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield, going after Stefanski to the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 1: acknowledging the substate. We'll talk about it all. We'll just
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  Speaker 1: NFL different topics from today, as well as a mailbag
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  Speaker 1: I've had some other requirements and obviously football season coming
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  Speaker 1: down the home stretch, but we're gonna separate that this
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  Speaker 1: year with some I mean, we have some big news
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  Speaker 1: Koepka and stuff, but that's we'll keep that on the
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  Speaker 1: other podcast. And yeah, so let's just let's talk some
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  Speaker 1: football and just dive right into the Buffalo Bills. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I've been pretty critical because one guy got promoted, one
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  Speaker 1: guy got fired, and I was like, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: are these guys not on equal footings, even though we
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  Speaker 1: know that's not how it usually goes. I have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a different take today. I've never listened
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  Speaker 1: or heard Terry Pegoula talk. I learned through the press
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  Speaker 1: conference that the man rarely talks, And after watching today,
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  Speaker 1: I understood why I would never go in front of
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  Speaker 1: a microphone again if I was him. My big takeaway
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  Speaker 1: today is like, I don't know if he's the sharpest
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  Speaker 1: tool in the shed. Some of you would be like John,
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  Speaker 1: he's a billionaire, how would you say he's not smart? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I can't say I know many billionaires, but I knew
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  Speaker 1: some multimillionaires growing up who didn't have a high school diploma.
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  Speaker 1: Because historically sixties, seventies, eighties, Pagoula made his money in oil. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you could get by with not being the smartest guys
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  Speaker 1: if you had nste size of watermelons, if you had balls,
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  Speaker 1: if you were willing to take chances because most human
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  Speaker 1: society or not. Like, I don't know if Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 1: is the sharpest guy in every room he's ever walked in.
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  Speaker 1: But there's no disputing that Jerry was willing to take
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  Speaker 1: some big swings back in the day. I'm talking before
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  Speaker 1: the cowboys. He had large cohonas and like reading a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about Terry and his business climb, there's no
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  Speaker 1: disputing Terry's got some stones. But like when you watch
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  Speaker 1: him and listen, not everyone is a great public speaker.
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  Speaker 1: I've told the story before. My brother is much more
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  Speaker 1: capable of like ninety nine percent of things in life
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  Speaker 1: than me. Yet he couldn't eat his dinner before my
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  Speaker 1: wedding because he had to give a speech which lasted
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  Speaker 1: like thirty seconds. So people are just uncomfortable speaking in public,
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  Speaker 1: which is understandable. Like I talk for a living, so
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  Speaker 1: I try not to judge people that talking in these settings.
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  Speaker 1: But like I've seen enough owners talk like most guys
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  Speaker 1: can handle themselves. He could not. And then I started
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  Speaker 1: doing a little digging, like I don't follow hockey. No
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  Speaker 1: team in pro sports besides the Jets has a longer
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  Speaker 1: playoff drought than the Buffalo Sabers. He happened to own
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  Speaker 1: that franchise as well. I've said this for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: like you watched this press conferences theater, and I live
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  Speaker 1: for a good press conference. When it's like it's fucking
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  Speaker 1: on like Donkey Kong. People want answers, people want to
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  Speaker 1: know what's going on. This feels like a shady situation.
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  Speaker 1: Like let's rewind a couple of weeks ago to the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens Steve Bushatti fires John Harbaugh. It really wasn't that controversial.
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  Speaker 1: Was like eighteen years we felt like we came to
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  Speaker 1: the end of the road, we make a change, and
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  Speaker 1: you looked up at the day it's such as him
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  Speaker 1: talking and he's given his answers, unfazed, comfortable in his environment.
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  Speaker 1: It is just in that situation, whether you liked or
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  Speaker 1: didn't like what he was saying, like he wasn't afraid anything,
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  Speaker 1: Bring it fucking on, right, and he was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: what an honor, That's that's how it should be handled.
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  Speaker 1: I watched Chris Chris Marritt yesterday after the Hardball press conference.
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  Speaker 1: He did something on the side with all the media
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  Speaker 1: and he's usually not the lead voice. This is his
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  Speaker 1: brother John handled it with ease. You watched Terry up
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  Speaker 1: there today. Obviously the keyon Coleman comment which I will
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  Speaker 1: defend Brandon Bean later in the press conference he came
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  Speaker 1: back like, listen, we were all on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime you don't draft like really really high, I would
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  Speaker 1: say top five, but maybe like the top fifteen, Like
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  Speaker 1: you could get someone at eleven that you kind of
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  Speaker 1: had a decent idea who was gonna be there, and
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  Speaker 1: that's who your coaching staff, the personnel people love. You
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  Speaker 1: start drafting pack pass like pick twenty five, there are
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  Speaker 1: gonna be seven different opinions in the room. Coach GM coordinators,
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  Speaker 1: A couple of scouts, like most people are gonna be like,
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  Speaker 1: I wish we would have drafted that guy. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: that guy. That's not abnormal at all. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Bean really tried to double down. Like Listen, I
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  Speaker 1: liked him too. There are videos going viral of him
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  Speaker 1: liking him. I like Keon Coleman a lot of Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was a stud. Remember that first game
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  Speaker 1: against LSU, you have three touchdowns, It was just mossing
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  Speaker 1: dudes in the corner of the end zone. Was fantastic performance.
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  Speaker 1: So I was pro key. I'm not trying to act
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  Speaker 1: like it was a crazy draft pick at the time.
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  Speaker 1: But and I think Brandon Bean tried to like later
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  Speaker 1: on saying listen, I don't tried to distance himself a
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  Speaker 1: little bit from that, and it shows, like Terry, there's
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  Speaker 1: not that big a difference beside owners that don't give
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  Speaker 1: you money to spend on your team like that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big separating factor. But most of these guys have
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  Speaker 1: no clue what they're doing. Let's just be real, right,
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  Speaker 1: They are very dependent on the people they hire, and
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  Speaker 1: if they get the people they hire right, their team
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  Speaker 1: kicks ass. Terry Pagoula is a good example. Bean McDermott.
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  Speaker 1: A year in they draft Josh Allen and it's on
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  Speaker 1: like Donkey Kong. If he would have drafted two people
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  Speaker 1: that weren't capable, which we see happen all the time,
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills franchise could still be a joke like
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  Speaker 1: it was most of the Internet era, post like the
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  Speaker 1: late nineties. So like people have to make decisions on
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  Speaker 1: who to keep and who not to keep, and it's
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  Speaker 1: always easier for these owners to keep the GM. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that we've been consistent on this podcast. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even a pro personnel anti coach thing. It's just like
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  Speaker 1: they communicate more closely. They're able to make their case
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  Speaker 1: more easily. They speak their same language where coaches sometimes don't,
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  Speaker 1: and coaches voice like the GM and addressing the team.
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  Speaker 1: The GM ain't the guy scheming up the place. So
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  Speaker 1: the and the coach makes way more. The coaches also,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, being who I mean, I would surely makes
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  Speaker 1: a decent amount of money, let's say five to six million.
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  Speaker 1: Sean mcdernod's like making fifteen million, So the coaches make
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  Speaker 1: way more, their jobs more volatile. It comes with the
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  Speaker 1: territory right. But watching Pegoula to Dad went, WHOA, they
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  Speaker 1: were a bad hire from this thing being the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: because you watch this guy, he is a complete wild card,
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  Speaker 1: and I've always just assumed didn't know much about him.
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  Speaker 1: Good ownership. I think they hired the right people when
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  Speaker 1: they drafted the right quarterback because I watched Terry Pegoula
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  Speaker 1: and I went, I don't really see it. Someone take
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  Speaker 1: the mic away from him as someone DM me. What
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  Speaker 1: they should have done is at Terry start and just say, listen,
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  Speaker 1: we had a bunch of shots at this He's been
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  Speaker 1: here nine years. We really respect him, took a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of shots. We couldn't get over the hump, and we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was time to make a change. That's my statement.
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  Speaker 1: Sticking to it, I'm out, Brandon West answer all your questions. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: he just kept talking and it was like holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: like random Bean's listen. I'm not anti Bean in the
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  Speaker 1: sense that I've heard him do a lot of interviews
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  Speaker 1: over the years. I've always thought he was a sharp guy,
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  Speaker 1: whether he's a great drafter or not. Like no one's
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  Speaker 1: comparing him to like Al Davis in his prime, right,
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  Speaker 1: But he clearly had some good players, and it's done
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  Speaker 1: a solid job and takes a large amount of the
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  Speaker 1: responsibility for landing the quarterback, which was very controversial at
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  Speaker 1: the time. There is no Monday Morning quarterback like everyone
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  Speaker 1: would take in Josh Allen. Josh Allen and I vividly
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  Speaker 1: remember this. I'm like, that's crazy. You're gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: small school guy. I get he has some traits, who
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  Speaker 1: is extremely inaccurate and did not really win in college.
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  Speaker 1: That is ballsy. And I had actually had a good
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  Speaker 1: buddy with the Chiefs was like, bro, I think this
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  Speaker 1: guy's a big time talent. He's got a chance. And
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  Speaker 1: my buddy was right. And clearly the Bills were right
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  Speaker 1: because there were people in the league that could kind
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  Speaker 1: of see it. But there have been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allens that turned into Anthony Richardson's or Trey Lances.
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  Speaker 1: So it took stones. They got it right, and I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine that's a big reason that indebted him to
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  Speaker 1: the owner, right, because he was one of the driving
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  Speaker 1: forces of doing that and then extending the contracts. But
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  Speaker 1: you watch the owner and you go listen, I get
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  Speaker 1: you're an oil maverick and made a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: in that industry, and you got some stones, but what
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  Speaker 1: a microphone's in front of your mouth. Someone involved with
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills needs heyank that thing around. They even
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  Speaker 1: asked them one question because of the new stadium, and
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  Speaker 1: I guess he got close to nine hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 1: with taxpayer money, which I'm not like most in the media.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the taxpayers don't. I don't care. If I
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  Speaker 1: owned a team, I would try to get as much
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  Speaker 1: free money as possible. We all would. I mean, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the real world. So it doesn't bother me as
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  Speaker 1: much as like people on Twitter. But they asked him,
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  Speaker 1: because you got all this free money, will you be
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  Speaker 1: available to just talk more. It's like, yeah, I might be.
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  Speaker 1: And then after I was like, I do not make
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  Speaker 1: him available. This makes it way worse. Keep him away
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  Speaker 1: from the microphone. If he had a podcast, I think
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: would go belly up quick. Uh So the Bills, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all eyes now are on who they're gonna hire, right,
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  Speaker 1: look at the Ravens fired Harbor. They just feel pretty normal.
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  Speaker 1: Probably gonna hire Mentor. It was less controversial because it's
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  Speaker 1: not like they were gonna fire DaCosta uh, I mean
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  Speaker 1: Ta Costa was. It's well known. He's John Harbaugh's best friends,
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  Speaker 1: the fucking neighbors. It's just it's just very, very normal, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then you see the bills like this thing. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it had some It had some similarities too. I remember
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  Speaker 1: going when Jim Harbaugh was fired and they ended up
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  Speaker 1: hiring Jim tom Sula. But the post Jim Harbaugh firing
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  Speaker 1: press conference was as explosive and entertaining of a press
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: conference in the postseason is you're gonna get They don't
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  Speaker 1: get any better. I live for him that they thoroughly
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  Speaker 1: entertained me. Like listen, you saw Ben Johnson today or
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  Speaker 1: Kyle and Lynch today, Like those are cool. Get some
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  Speaker 1: nuts and bolts about what's going on, maybe a headline
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  Speaker 1: or two. There's nothing like every question. You don't know
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  Speaker 1: where the bullets are gonna fly and what's gonna come.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's everyone, you could tell they're up there on
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  Speaker 1: edge all four. My guess would be sitting here that
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  Speaker 1: Brian Dayball's the next coach, assuming Josh and him have
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  Speaker 1: a good relationship, and to my knowledge they do so,
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  Speaker 1: I would guess that's the easiest route. Like that They're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna hire some random coordinator. You can't take that
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  Speaker 1: type risk with this infrastructure already there. So betting man
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  Speaker 1: right now, it would be Brian Dayball, and if it's not,
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  Speaker 1: it would be someone else with some cachet, because you
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  Speaker 1: can't just fire Sean McDermott and go hire you know,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Salah. I mean, I know he's not available, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just using him as an example. Some other coach
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: news that's pretty interesting. There's a couple here, so the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers interviewed Mike McCarthy. I think the Steelers is a
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  Speaker 1: terrible job. I think the Steelers job like they'll get
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  Speaker 1: to get a lot of credit. They've had three coaches
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  Speaker 1: in like seventy five years. Cool, great, it's twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five that their roster on paper looks terrible because it's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of aging players that are making a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money and they have no quarterback. So like, this
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Steeler team isn't exactly the one that Tomlin took over
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  Speaker 1: or the one like you know from the late nineties
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  Speaker 1: with some great players. This is a team that I
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  Speaker 1: was short the majority of their players and is going
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  Speaker 1: to probably next year be a rebuild. I know the
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  Speaker 1: owner pushed back on that, but I haven't read like
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  Speaker 1: one of those like seventy two hours into the Mike
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  Speaker 1: Tomlin decision slash pressure he had felt for meetings. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't read that article, so I'm just taking it on
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  Speaker 1: face value that Mike Tomlin saw the writing on the wall,
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  Speaker 1: this thing was over. I'm jumpionship, right, but the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: situation is something to me that's not that desirable, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't if you're gonna lose Mike Tomlin, it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: hard to sell to hire Mike McCarthy, who in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways is very similar. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 1: his run with the Cowboys. Had some good teams, couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do anything in the playoffs. I mean part of the
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: problem with the Steelers, like they've been competitive, they just
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  Speaker 1: get dominated by the good teams, especially in January. So
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  Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy also was thinking about this today, you like,
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: think about like Pat Riley. It's like, played and coached
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  Speaker 1: for the Lakers, then I went to the New York Knicks,
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  Speaker 1: and then I basically created the Miami Heat. It's like
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  Speaker 1: that's a hell of a run. Or Joe Torrey's like
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  Speaker 1: won a bunch of championships with the Yankees and then
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: went to the Dodgers. Like that's fucking badass, that's sweet.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mike McCarthy coach for the Packers, the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 1: and the Steelers. Robert saw his coach for the Jets
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  Speaker 1: and the Titans. I mean, think how lucky if McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: got this job. And who knows. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 1: like anyone has a great feel for where the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: are gonna go. They might be able to sell themselves,
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  Speaker 1: like we could do a lot worse than this guy.
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  Speaker 1: He knows how to work with some quarterbacks. He's look
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  Speaker 1: at Rogers, look at Dak Prescott like, there's no disputing
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy's I'm not acting like he's the village idiot either.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's not much of a difference with
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  Speaker 1: the two. Now. The main difference is McCarthy can call plays.
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  Speaker 1: But I just can't get over if McCarthy were to
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  Speaker 1: get that job, it'd be one of the truly great
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  Speaker 1: resumes in the history of the league. The three franchises
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  Speaker 1: he got to coach, you could argue might be the
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  Speaker 1: three most iconic franchises. Definitely three of the top five
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, and if we just
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: did all of sports, including in American professional sports, I
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: would say three of the top ten you'd throw in
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, you throwing the Lake, probably throwing the Knicks,
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I mean, it's the Packers, the Cowboys, and
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's a fucking pretty short list. So listen,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: people make fun of Mike McCarthy. I asaw someone you know,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: do people kind of judge him because he's fat? Is
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: the look is it? I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I my guess would be one issue people have with them.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the Knocks and packed with the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like Aaron Rodgers talked down upon him, like
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: didn't think he was that smart, and then they broke
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  Speaker 1: up and they acted like they had a great time together,
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  Speaker 1: which clearly they did early on. Then it got a
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: little weird, and then Rogers made that comment after the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season. How our society has reflected all
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: these coaches on the hot seat. It's like, Aaron, you
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  Speaker 1: were there when Mike McCarthy got fired in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the year. I remember that you lost to Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: He got fired the next day, it's like, fuck, people
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: get fired all the time. Welcome to pro sports players.
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  Speaker 1: How many players have you seen run out of the building?
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? But it was one of
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: those sexy little uh press conference quotes that really had
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: was the opposite of the truth. And I think Kansas
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: City did something pretty interesting. Matt Naggie rolled the dice right.
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  Speaker 1: He thought his boy Boreganzi was in Tennessee Callahan was
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  Speaker 1: in some trouble. He's like, I'm not gonna sign an extension.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this out. Steve Spagnola did the same
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  Speaker 1: thing the year before and will win big and I'm
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  Speaker 1: either gonna get a huge raise or I'm gonna become
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  Speaker 1: a head coach. Turns out it neither happened because the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Chiefs went six and eleven, so his leverage to get
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  Speaker 1: a big raise way off the table. If you remember
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  Speaker 1: last year or in the last couple of years Spagnola,
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  Speaker 1: I remember the forty nine ers tried to hire him.
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  Speaker 1: He got a massive raise, one of the highest paid
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  Speaker 1: coordinators in the league. Matt Naggy the team lost and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: was like, you're not getting to raise here, buddy, And
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  Speaker 1: then you know, I think he thought he was going
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee because we all kind of did. We just
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: assumed like that was gonna happen. Honestly, it was a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: little shocking when the headline and the story broke Robert
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: saw as the next head coach of the Titans. No
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: one was more surprised, probably than Matt Naggie. So now
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you got him interviewed, interviewing in Philly, which I actually
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: could see happening when I got hired in Philly. Naggi
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: was one of the lowest guys on the totem pole.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: He played college football with Veach in Delaware, was a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: longtime AFL quarterback, worked his way up from a quality
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: control guy to a quarterback coach. Obviously he was a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: head coach, so I think one thing getting away from
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Andy could really do wonders for him. And if he
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: goes to Philly, a bright light market with a lot
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: of people watching, and have success and get Jalen back
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: on the right track, he could easily get a head
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: coaching job next year. And bringing Eric the enemy back
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. I think they also hired Chad O'Shea
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: as a wide receiver coach who spent a lot of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: years in New England. I think Andy's trying to button
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: it up a little bit and get some guys that
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: will just get in people. Obviously he knows Eric really well,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: who is just, you know, kind of a throwback coach
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and o'shee coming from the Belichick tree. I think he's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: trying to put a little sense of urgency on the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. One couple. You know, we
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: all know these couples that they don't really make that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: much sense. You're like, how did these two people fall
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in love? You're like, I never would have guessed it,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: but they actually have a lot in common, Like politically
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: they're on the same page. They enjoy doing the same things.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But you look at him, You're like, these two people
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: really it's like, yeah, they just they just fell in love.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. Love's a powerful thing. I would
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: say that about Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh. If you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: just saw the two of them, they couldn't look any
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: more polar opposite. Jim looks like this sixty year old
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: former elite athlete. He's a massive dude, just alpha. Mike
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is this five to nine, one hundred and fifty pounds
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: soaking wet. Now he's rich, he's wearing Gucci shades, a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars watch, and fucking weird ass pain and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he's gonna beat Harbaugh's offensive coordinator. And honestly, it kind
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of makes some sense. They actually, when it comes to football,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: have similar philosophies. Mike McDaniel made his career under Kyle
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: with the offensive line coach is the run game guru,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: so from a blocking standpoint in the run game, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: even when he became the wide receiver coach, you don't block,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you don't play like. That's a huge thing with the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers and has been throughout Kyle's ten year
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: going back to the Shanahan, his dad and the Kubiaks.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: You got a block because they're running offense. And Mike McDaniel,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he's gone viral before for like coaching clinics. He's big
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: on blocking with your wide receivers. What does Jim Harball
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: want to do? He wants to run it forty times
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a game. So while they don't look anything alike, Jim
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Harball were the same thing every day. Mike has closed
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that most of us couldn't even find on the internet.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: If you gave us three days to look, and I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: think this thing could be good. And if Mike McDaniel,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: if these guys are healthy, the two offensive linemen. They
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just have a first round running back who I didn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: really see it last year. Now give him an offseason.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little overweight, I don't know. He just looked
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: kind of slow to me. But they're gonna have some pieces.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And clearly they have a talented quarterback who a lot
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of people think is kind of underachieved in the biggest
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: moments because he has Mike McDaniel could lot like what
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: happened to Robert Sahlo this year, gets fired last year
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: with the Jets, like Robert Sall kind of sucks, right, Look,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you can't deal with that situation comes to the forty
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: nine ers. Robert Sall is a badass interviewing all over
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the place head coaching job. Like, who's to say that
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't happen with Mike, especially if he can handle and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: things go well with Jim. So just a fascinating marriage.
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  Speaker 1: this tweet on I guess it would have been Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: because Kevin Stefanski said in a press conference about their
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Let me just find the tweet. I don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: want to screw it up. I think I need a
• 22:55
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• 22:58
  Speaker 1: is the quote tweet from Baker Mayfield. The tweet came
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: out from Kevin Stefanski that the Falcons Kevin Stefanski had
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson failed, which started to chain reaction to the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: other eleven starters. Shador Sanders closed out last season with
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: seven starts, and then I guess it was Orlando Ledbetter,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: who's one of like I think the Atlanta Journal Constitution
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: kind of a throwback, a big Jay journal for Atlanta's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: big paper. Baker quoted it saying, failed is quite the
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: reach pal. Still waiting on a text slash call from
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: him after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. Clearly
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: there is some bad blood between Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefanski.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas then later quoted Baker's tweet, saying you could
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: have reached out and called him, which I don't think
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that's usually how it goes. But I will say this
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: about Kevin Stefanski. I was thinking about Sean McDermott. He
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gets now he clearly had more success in Stefanski. But
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: every player on the Bills is I mean, from starting
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: players to role players, is posting statements, is posting pictures.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Clearly his respect in that locker room was running pretty deep.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I don't pretend to follow every Cleveland Brown player. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a peep being said by anybody. Do
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: people like Kevin Stefanski? Like, I know he's smart and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: people keep telling him he's a great offensive mind, but like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: do the players like him? Kind of important? Like it
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: kind of matters? So like, does Baker have a point?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Didn't call him to tell you I'm gonna trade you? Like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: who do you think you are? A Belichick? There is
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: kind of an arrogance to Stefanski. There's no debating that,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know. I know the media loves him. They think
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: he's a fucking genius. I was thinking a couple of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: years ago when they won with Flacco, weren't they a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: defensive team? Like, was it Jim Schwartz kind of carrying
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: most of the load. I have to go back and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: really break down the stats. But and he'd be like, well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: look at his quarterback. Well isn't that kind of his
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: gig to figure out quarterbacks? I mean, last year in
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the third round, and there's no way they draft a
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: third round quarterback without the head coach who is the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: play caller and the quarterback guru, without signing off on him.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Took a guy that most teams has undraftable. So I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: think this is the Fanski thing. This is nothing against
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: him personally, like I I nothing bad to say about him,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: met him one time, nice guy, But when it comes
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to a football coach and the way he handles his business,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just think that he's kind
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of got this like media thing going that there's a Brandon.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: His personality's a lot different than Brandon Staley, but the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: media early on there was support behind him. That feels
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit like that here, and then you read
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: quotes like this like you can't even call guys when
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you cut him and trade him, you know, starting quarterbacks.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you practice squad guys. You got bigger
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: fish to fry, but kind of embarrassing. It's like, where
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are the players coming out to be like, this is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: one of the best guys I've ever played for. Happens
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all the time. Happened to day Ball when day Ball
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: got fired, A bunch of guys came out and they
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: weren't even winning. So I don't know. I've got that situation.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Red flag props the Baker for toxes of shit. We
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: need more of that. And last but not least on
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: this rapid fire, which I wouldn't know if it's a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: rapid fire, went like thirty minutes. The forty nine ers
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of teams do Most teams do the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: coach and the GM sometimes just the coach. They kind
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of give an end of the year a little presser
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to the media, and there was a lot going on,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and one question that just had to be asked, is
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a substation thing? Now? One thing I was hoping for,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just because I think it would be such an explosive topic,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: would if one of the Super Bowl teams was practicing
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: there and refused to practice there because of the substation.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But someone told me today that I think the two
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: teams one practice stamp for one practice San Jose, So
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I don't even think anyone practices on the Niners field.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So it'll be a non topic in a couple of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: weeks for the individual two teams to make the Super Bowl.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But John Lynz did acknowledge it, and it's something they
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: have looked at and they're gonna have to look at
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: more because it is a topic. I've been saying this,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it's not going away. And I saw Dante Whitner say
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the number one the only thing that matters this offseason
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is figuring out how to state keep your guys healthy
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Like that is the niners number one priority, and it
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: should be number two, number three, number four, number five.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: How do we keep the players that we have on
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the fucking field because if we don't, we will not win.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. They definitely benefited a little bit
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: from a little easier schedule this year with some of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: their injuries. If they were playing better teams week in
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: week out, it would have been much more difficult. Given
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the team they were rolling out fully healthy, that hell,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: they might have won the Super Bowl. They probably would have,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: or at least been I had a much better effort
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: against Seattle, but they got no chance the group they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: were rolling out. And it all gets back to all
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: these achilles, all these acls, all these injuries. So I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: don't know where to even start when it comes to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the study. But they better dive deep into it and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: figure some things out and figure him out quick. They
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that Brandon Ayuk will never play for the forty
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: nine ers again, and I would guess that his trademarket
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: will be As Mike Dunleevy said about kamingas if a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: guy has a trade request, there needs to be a market.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: If not, there is no way to fulfill the trade request.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It takes two to tango right, and Brandon Ayuk's situation
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers really just became a disaster
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and then pretty sad. As Kyle Shanahan said, in his
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: twenty two years of coaching, he's never not been able
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to have a player just go dark on him. It's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: on his own team. They can't get a hold of him.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I clearly, mentally it feels like he's not in a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: good place. The videos went viral of him speeding around,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but just a pretty sad story. And as John said,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around. It's pretty embarrassing for
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the Niners. And clearly they have a regret of not
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: pulling the trigger last year when they could have traded him.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They should have traded him before the draft, but they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: were in this Super Bowl or bus mode and they
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: thought they could have their cake and eat it too,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: and it blew up in their face. Now, no one
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: would have saw this coming, but it came, and now
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it's here and they're gonna have to cut him. Luckily
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: for them, for whatever reason, he didn't fight the money
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and they were able to get back twenty five million
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: dollars of bonus money. They a couple other things. Mac Jones,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: who I think is gonna be a sexy name to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: kind of be a bridge quarterback like a Daniel Jones
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: was last year. Kyle Shanahan said today like, I'd be
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: stunned if he's not on the team, And to me,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: what he's saying is like, obviously there are prices that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you can't turn down for just about anyone in the NFL,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: but Mac Jones has a lot of value to us.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Perty's been hurt before, he's proven he can win games
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with us. We're not just giving them to someone because
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and he's a cheat back up fourth round pick. Here's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. To me, I think it would take a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: top fifty pick for the forty nine ers to entertain
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: getting rid of them. I really do, because his value
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to them is stronger than some late third round, fourth
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: round pick. And I don't know if another team would
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: do that. So my guess is there's probably truth to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: what Kyle saying. I'd be surprised if Mac Jones is
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: not on this team because his value to us, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: what we would need to part with them to any
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: team that just needed a fill in quarterback is probably
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: more than they're willing to pay for this guy who's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: really is on a one year contract as well. But
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you never know, right, you never know. Desperation is a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: powerful thing quarterbacks and quarterback needs clearly pop up every
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Look how many teams have nothing at quarterback that just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: need something serviceable. And he's a name to watch. But
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: think about if I told you your team just gave
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: up pick forty. And again, I don't know who's drafting forty,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm just put an arbitrary team in there picked
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: forty four for mac Jones, Like, huh, it's a little rich.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Gus Bradley will more than likely be Robert Sala's feeling.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And I think clearly when they hired Robert Sala, they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: knew at best they were gonna have him a couple
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of years that he was gonna get rehired, and they
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: were right, and he got hired, probably faster than they wanted.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But they also brought Gus to basically as anyone that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: listened to Haberman, like he would eat lunch, like those
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: guys would always be together they are very very close.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Gus hired Robert Sala when he was the coach of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jags as linebacker coach, so that's where Kyle
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: got him from. And you know, when you hire these
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: guys who are kind of rocket ships. And I'm not
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: acting like Saul is a rocket ship in the sense
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of like some future star head coach, but in terms
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of you know you're not gonna be able to keep it,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: does behoove you to kind of have a repla around
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and training with him, even if it's a guy that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: has experience and may have his own ways, but just
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: get him together and have him learn what you like.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So it's an easy transition because I don't think Kyle
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to go outside the building again like Steve Wilks,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: because that blew up in his face. Okay, let's go
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Instagram fire and those dms get your questions answered right
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: here on the show. We will start with Aaron big Fan,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: keep up the good work like this guy, Eagles fan,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: fresh off the loss. Eagles offense has been incompetent all year,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: so this loss was pretty predictable. Question. I'm stealing this
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: observation from my brother, but I think it's a good one. Listen,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I still takes from my wife or friends on text
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: all the time that we use on the podcast, never
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: even credit him. You don't even need to credit, just
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: steal the take as your own. The Eagles are in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a cycle of playing well, losing their OC, playing bad
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: under a new OC, and then getting a new OC
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and playing good again. And my brother made the point
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that this is a direct result of Siriani being a
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: CEO coach. Since he's not the head coach NC like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a Shanahan or Andy Reid, He's totally dependent on his
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator every year, whereas guys like Andy and Kyle
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: don't lose their OC when they are good because they
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: are the OC. I think you can see this a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: bit with other teams like John harbad, Dan Campbell, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: other CEO head coaches. I saw Brandon Bean make a
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: really good point today and he said that at the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the first thing you need to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: do when hiring a coach, whether they're a play caller
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: or not, is get a good leader, because their role
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: as the head coach is unlike anything they've done as
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a coordinator. Best case scenario, you get the guy that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: can handle all the controversy. That's line is way because
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: every day as a head coach, from injuries to internal
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: fighting with coaches, with players, to duys to arrest to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you name it, that all falls on your desk. Think about,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like I'm at my desk right now, or you're at
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: your desk right now listening, and shit just hits the fan.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: In whatever you're doing for a living, that comes immediately
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to you depending on what you do, Like, there could
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: be problems you don't have to mess with. It's nice
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm looking not my issue when you're a
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: head coach, there is no that's not my issue. Problem
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: in the training room, problem in the equipment room, fucked
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: up in the cafeteria, like it kind of gets back
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to you. So I, Sirianni, just like all the other
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: CEO head coaches, they have to deal with all that stuff.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But so does Kyle Shamahan, So do Sean Payton, so
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: does Sean McVay. In a perfect world you get both.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: There's just not that many of those guys. So if
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you hire the bad coach in terms of to call
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: your play or the wrong coach, you're just screwed. That's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the reality with the CEO head coach. But it's no
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: different like with these offensive coaches. If Andy Reid had
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: hired the wrong defensive coordinator, they probably don't have three
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls. But he hires Bags and his defense got
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: dramatically better and they started rattling them off. Right Like
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. If Mike McDaniel is really good and all
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of a sudden the Chargers in the AFC Championship Game
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: next year, he's gonna look like a genius. But at
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: their offense, which I'd be stunned if it does, but
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: gets worse, he's gonna get shit out because Harbaugh is
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: just a CEO head coach. Look at Dan Campbell this
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: year hired Johnny Morton. So it's just there's an element
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of luck. I mean, like how well your players respond
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to the coach. It's unknown, honestly, hiring a coach a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: little like a draft pick. No one knew who Ben
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Johnson was five years ago, but surely Dan saw it
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: in him, liked him, knew he was impressive, and they
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: gave him a shot and they never looked back. I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: remember when the Bears initially resigned Dj Moore to the extension,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you brought up cost certainty and the value in knowing
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: exactly how much a player will be paid in future seasons.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: With that in mind, most people have been saying, since
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the Bears have an abundance of weapons, they should trade
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: more for picks or defensive help. Do you think it
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: would make sense to keep DJ and trade Rome or
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Rome is currently on a cheap rookie deal around the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: same time as Caleb, Rome will be getting a new
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: deal that will definitely be more than DJ's current contract. Plus,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: since Rome is younger and a rookie deal, we could
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: get more back downside, as Rome seems to have a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: better all connection with Caleb than DJ does. In your opinion,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: which is better? I want to do really quick, bring
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: up Rome missed a bunch of games with injuries. So
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: if I go to the Bears and I go to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the stat page, the leading receiver for the Chicago Bears
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is the postseason. Let's go regular season. It's what I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: would have guessed Colson Lovelin, who had fifty eight catches,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: six touchdown. That's a great rookie season. Seven of your
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: yard I'm that guy, and I bet it really blew
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: up towards the end. DJ had fifty for six and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Rome had forty four for six, And both of them
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: had similar yards, and both of them had DJ's a
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: little lower on the yards per catch. They both have
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: similar yards after catch. That's a great question. I think
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you make them in a weird way, both available and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: just see what the market is for them both, I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: would guess. I mean DJ Moore he's got to be
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a close to thirty. He's twenty eight. He'll be twenty
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: nine next season. Rome's age and just how you know
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: recently he was drafted he'll be twenty four next season.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Probably has more value. But I mean this is a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: guy two years into his career. Like I he was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: drafted ninth. Overall, you're not getting a first round pick
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: for Roma Dunay right now. So would you trade him
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: for a second when DJ Moore or would you rather
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: have his cheap contract for another couple more years? You
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: do have to decide next year, I you're gonna pick
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: up his fifth year option. You know, DJ, I would
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: imagine is under contract for a couple more years. Yeah,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it's complicated. I think you make them both available, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you just kind of see what the market is for both.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I would guess that DJ Moore at twenty eight, twenty eight,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that's his cap hit the next couple of years. It's
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a little complicated. I mean, I guess you could get
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: DJ an extension if you're another team. Rome would have
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: more value just because he's younger and teams would have
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: had really high draft picks on him or high draft
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: grades on him. So I think you can probably get
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a second round pick for romadonsday. DJ probably not given
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: his age, third contract, declining production, not all his fault,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: but Rome would have more value on the open market.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's kind of risky, like you trade him and he
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: goes on to be really good somewhere else. It's hard
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to kind of justify that the pressure. Let's just say
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: you trade him for some pick in the fifties. If
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you nail like a starting middle linebacker, no one will care.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of these questions. I'm from
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: New Zealand. I'm wondering if a show can be watched
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: on the New Zealand version of Netflix. It's not what
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the best way to watch listen to your show? If not,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: what is the best way. Well, I didn't realize this,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: which I guess makes sense. I thought everyone like if
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I was in London, or I was in New Zealand,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: or I was in Australia or Brazil, I would just
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: watch Netflix. But I guess every Netflix is different depending
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: on the country, and right now our broadcast or our
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: episodes are only hosted on Netflix USA. I have a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: little running notepad that I'm probably gonna wait like a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: month to fire to my The Netflix people who have
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: been really cool. I mean they sent me baby stuff.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It's headphones and all sorts of stuff. But must be
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: doing hopefully pretty well that I have some ideas. Obviously
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: they're getting new to the game. I've been in the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: podcast game for a decade, so I didn't know that
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: till last week when people reached out. We have an
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: international audience, which is cool, but right now it's only
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: in Netflix America. This is a podcast, so it's Apple Spotify.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: That's how this whole thing started, and that's our business
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: model started with the audio. We've shifted the video and audio,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: but Apple Spotify. You can listen anywhere in the world,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: but right now, video wise, only Netflix America, which again
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It never crossed my mind that that even I just
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: assumed Netflix was just Netflix. Can we make a deal
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: for next season. Let's agree to only call Herbert the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Charger starting quarterback until he wins a playoff game. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: can't unsee it anymore. Regular season hero and then turns
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: into playoff zero. He's like the James Harden to quarterbacks,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you can only put up three points versus the Patriots.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: It's not like he was playing the two Bucks. The
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: New England defense I'm sure is respectable, but the players
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: on it, even Madden enthusiasts enthusiasts, can't name Herbert. Excuse me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: The Chargers started quarterback is on the second contract and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: as multiple postseason flops, and before you give me all
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the reasons and excuses in the world, the franchise quarterback
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: overcomes problems and deficiencies, So just giving us a list
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: proves my point. Heck, even Party won a playoff game
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: after losing Kittle in quarter one. There's no disputing Party
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: like has Like. If you're just talking like Clutch and
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: coming through, you have more faith in brock Purty than
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you do justin Herbert. Listen, he's s why Harbaugh just
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: hired a guy that wears capris and Gucci sunglasses. You know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: when you think Jim Harbaugh, you don't think Mike McDaniel
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: little desperation because Megan Justin Herbert look good is really
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: really important. So there is a lot of pressure on
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel and Justin Herbert next year. And it really
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: starts with Justin Herbert. Mike McDaniel made to it look good?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Think about that? To what look good? Any lead the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: league in passing? Like three years ago before we got
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: ct Hey, John, big fan of the podcast from Australia,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Breath of Fresh Air hearing it takes? Can you confirm
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: your video content will be available on Netflix international markets?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: If not? Yeah, international, We're not international right now. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I have some thoughts. Like I've said, I have a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: little notepad, I got a lot of no pads going
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Dad diary, notepads, takes, notepads, Netflix idea, no pads read
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Hastings should just hit me up because I've I know
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: this podcast world well started from zero. Now we're here,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: so I have a pretty good idea of what works
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and doesn't. But even just basic things that I've just
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: kind of kept an eye on because I just you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: guys reach out to me. I'm part of my grassroots
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: research comes from comes from DMPs and people hitting me
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: up things I haven't thought about, and then I turned
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: them into take some of my own. So I appreciate
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you guys, couch for the back. Ben Johnson obsession with
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Collin shotgun runs on third and short. All the conversation
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: is gonna be around this fourth down decision, but its
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: third down calls are horrendous. I feel like he gets
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: stuck in his head four down territory. I hate shotgun runs.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I hate not running Caleb. I just Ben Johnson was
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a stud this year. But I'm with you. I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the obsession with going forward on fourth down there should
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: never be a time in your life besides like I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: treat people well right or be nice to people like
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: something that never changes. You should always be open to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: different ideas. And I believe that Ben Johnson and Dan
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Campbell whenever they decided in a meeting room years ago
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: in Detroit that no matter what we go was something
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that they believe to their soul that they haven't even
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: thought about changing, which to me is crazy. It's like
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the math, guys, there's no convincing him that they could
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: be wrong. It's like, guys, we're not on an Excel spreadsheet.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: These are human beings. No, I'm telling you this is
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: no matter what. No, no, guys, this is not a
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: good idea. Plus, if you are gonna go for it,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: you have this quarterback who is built like a tank
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and can fucking fly. Why don't you run him? I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: do not, And I'm not trying to act like I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: know more football than Ben Johnson. I think Ben Johnson's
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a stut like he's even today his press conference was like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: can you build on next year? He's like, there's no
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: building on next year? And he's right. You start back
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: at square one every single year. Now you build on
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it because your player's improved. But like you go to OTAs,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you just start back at running the most basic plays
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and then build your way up. That's what the Patriots do,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: That's what the Chiefs do. That's what Ben John's gonna do.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: So and plus the average turnover in the NFL roster wise,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: this is not the NBA. I mean, most people are
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: anywhere between twenty five to thirty five percent. Some teams,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: if you get new coaches will like flip half the roster.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: So the turnover is immns in football, cap casualties, trades,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: new draft picks, so you just get brand new players.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not the same team. They're gonna be
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: guys like DJ Moore could just not be there, Cole
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Komet could just not be there. Right. Uh, They're gonna
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: have brand new players on defense. So from square one, like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it's kind of true. What was your question? Oh the upset.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand why he doesn't run Caleb they
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: did with Josh Allen a quarterback power, Like, why wouldn't
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you just install a quarterback power because the other thing
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: is Caleb smart? Like it when the last time Caleb
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: took a big hit, It's not like he's getting molly
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: wopped running around. I don't get it. Do you know
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: if Netflix plans on making popodst user friendly, I can't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: lock my screen and listen like I used to. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: took a screenshot of this question for the mailbag because
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I was confused. I can listen to my I listened
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: to the Tom Brady interview with the spit and chick
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Lick guys, just like I would on the other platforms
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: or even a podcast form. I clicked it off and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: it would just use press play and you listening in
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: your pocket. I did that last week, and I've had
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: my team. We all looked at everyone's doing it. So
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: when I saw this, you can lock your phone and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: listen to it. It stops sometimes immediately and then just
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: hit play and it shows up with my iPhone. It does,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: so I have not had an issue with that. Yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that's that would be my take on that thought. If
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you were Woody Johnson, wouldn't you be begging Bill and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Josh to come to the Jets? Well, why would Josh?
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I think you're me and Josh McDaniels. Why would Josh
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: ever get with Bill? Again? Bill's a sinking ship like
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: part of life, you know, in the real world in business, like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: once you disassociate with something that's going the wrong way,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: like you don't run back to it, and once you
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: get involved in something that's working, you kind of double
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: down in it. So to me, Josh, even if he
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: had the opportunity, would be out of his mind to
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: join Belichick with the Jets and leave rabel in May.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I personally think Belichick's unhireable, I really do. I didn't
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: say that a year ago, a lot's changed. This year
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina was a complete embarrassment. It really was,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and part of it's her, but like she's part of
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: him now that there's no way around it, you have
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: this like seventy five year old former legend that has
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: lost his fastball and we just saw I think the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll situation makes it even worse. Bill's a huge
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: ego guy. I think Bill is untouchable. I really do.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy to say. I'm not a Belichick hater.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I idolize the Patriots in terms of like how they
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: ran anyone I've ever met there, I always just pepper
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: them with questions, fascinated by it. I think what they
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: stood for and did for twenty years is one of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the coolest things in my sports watching career. And Bill
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and anyone that will tell you that was around there
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: is a main driver of it, but that cars crashed
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and that thing's over. I hear you and Colin say
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Trevor does not have a great arm in terms of strength,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: but not saying I disagree, But what specifically makes y'all
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: say that. I get that he doesn't have a rocket
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: like Caleb on a consistent basis, But I feel like
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you can make every throw. Not having a big arm
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't make every throw. Dak Prescott can
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: make every throw. And when you say every throw, I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: don't mean ad lib on the run Caleb throws. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: just mean can you throw the deep out? Can you
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: throw the deep post? Can you throw a go route? Like?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith could make every throw, Kirk Cousins could make
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: every throw, Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, Caleb, you know, Kyler Murray.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Some of these guys just do it much better with
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: much more power. So Trevor has a fine arm. Trevor
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: has like most quarterbacks in the NFL, good arm, Like
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: he has an NFL standard. You can function with it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And when he really lets it rip, like he can
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: drive throws. Was it the playoff game that he drove
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the throw in the back of the end zone? It
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: was a dot. I wouldn't say as if we're ranking
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: one to ten right in fives, just kind of middle
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: ground like zero or one would be like Dylan Gabriel,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: you know, four or five would be like Alex Smith,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: seven would be like Baker Mayfield. Right, I'd say like nine, ten.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Once you start getting Mahomes and Josh and Caleb and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: guys like Farv Peyton Manning was like a four or five.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: You don't need a great arm to be a great player.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I would say Trevor probably is a sick would be
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. What do you think
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: of Amazon bringing back Al Michaels to call their games? Uh,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Thursday Night football? It's really important, I think to the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: league to have Thursday Night and Monday Night be a
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: big deal. So years ago when the Monday Night Crew
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: when grew to went back to the Raiders, it fell apart,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: and ESPN took a lot of pressure from the NFL
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of like, you got to fix this. If you want
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls, if you want our best games, this gotta
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: be big league. It cannot be little league. So what
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: did ESPN do? They gave like thirty million dollars a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: year combined? Was Troy make like eighteen? Buck makes twelve
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: for Fox's number one team? What did Amazon do when
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: they first got the NFL? They hired Al Michaels, one
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of the most legendary play by play guys ever, so
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: a big dame. The problem is Marv Albert is one
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of the greatest play by play guys as well. At
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the end, Marv couldn't see what was going on. And
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: basketball is different than football. But I remember watching so
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: many games on TNT and like Marv's lost it. It's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like Linscombe used to throw ninety seven. Now he throws
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: eighty two, and Marv was throwing about fifty. I don't
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: know if I was throwing fifty. But he doesn't have
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: his fastball anymore, which is understandable. He's in his eighties.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: So I think that broadcast. I don't think anyone would
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: complain if you just hired Guy Haberman and some famous player,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, I know Philip wouldn't do it, Drew Brees, whatever,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: it'd be fine. But I think the star power of
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Al Michaels is something like clearly they really like, which
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I would totally understand if Al was still in his
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: prime and his prime went pretty long. But his prime's over.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And I've you know, studied broadcasters, and I don't I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: mean like podcasters or even radio hosts, but watching guys
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: career in people he has to kind of navigate through
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and try to get jobs. They never give it up.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Play by play guys never give up the mic. Greg
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Papa fought leukemia, fought leukemia literally during the football season
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and still came back for a game. That's just the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: way they're wired. Because in play by play gigs, if
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: someone else sits there, it's not like Al was like, yeah,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: just filled by spot like he did any thinking like that,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And at this point in time is Al Michaels need
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the money. So I just think it's the wiring of
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: play by play people. They will never give up the microphone.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Radio people when I worked in radio, are kind of
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: like that, like they were uncomfortable taking vacation because guess
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: what happens someone fills in for you. What happens then, well,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: what if the rating book goes up? That's how I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: got hired in radio. I filled in and the timeslot
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I filled in did really well ratings wise. So my
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: boss it's not like he cared or liked me anymore
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: than the next guy, but it was just a numbers thing.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, if I make this guy the host,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: we could do a higher number. So, you know, play
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: by play guys not based necessarily on that, but people
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: just don't give up the mic. So I would love
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: someone else in there. But they're very loyal to this crew,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: which I just I like Herbstreet on College. I don't
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: really want to watch him on Thursday night. It has
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: nothing against him. I just would like an NFL guy there.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I discriminate against him because I view him as
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: a Saturday guy, but it kind of matters to me,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't just need any I just would ideally
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: like someone good. The problem is they tried. Remember they
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: tried years ago. They thought they'd get Sean McVay or
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: John Lynch, and they turned They offered a both like
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars. They both turned it down. Sean almost went,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: which if he wins the Super Bowl, he will one
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: not regret. Huge fan. I started my first office job
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a few years ago, and discovering your podcast gets me through.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you listening while you're grinding in the office. I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: know the seventeenth game is a rotating interconference game based
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: on previous years standings, but I think it was major
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: missed opportunity by the NFL. It would have been a
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: lot cooler if they made it a set interconference opponent
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: each year, like Added Arrival. There are already so many
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: natural AFC NFC rivalries Dallas, Houston, Philly, Pittsburgh, jess Giants,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: et cetera. Any non natural matchups would immediately become natural
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: rival due to familiarity. They could even play twice in
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: years that the divisional rotations run into each other. I
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: didn't know if you realize that, to me is the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: reason they don't do it. You can't. They wouldn't want
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: an intercom or you know, AFC NFC matchup twice in
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: a season, so you play. If I'm Dallas, I play
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Houston every four once every four years, right, it rotates.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I play all the divisions on a rotating basis. Well
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the year when I play the AFC South, if I'm
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the NFC East, I can't be playing the Texans twice.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I can't go like Giants, Texans, Eagles, Commanders, Texans like that. That.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: You can't. The league ain't gonna do that because I
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if there are enough. Right, Okay, you brought
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: up some good ones. You go Niners, Raiders, You could
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: go Jags or Dolphins, Bucks. I mean you could, but
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: what does Seattle do? What does what does Arizona do?
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: What does you know? You start going like Minnesota, Like
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it gets a little more
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: complicated with some of the teams. I hear what you're saying.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: It would be cool if the Jets and the Giants
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and the Chargers in the RAMS, the Niners and the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Raiders and the Cowboys and the Texans played every year.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: But that's just that's never gonna happen because, like you said,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the divisional rotation, you couldn't have a season where they
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: played each other twice. Can you imagine if we had
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to watch the Jets and the Giants twice this year?
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Holy shit? How do player incentives work? Do teams have
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a set money aside and separate from the salary cap
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: to account for the season incentives? I think they. I'm
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: pretty sure they roll over the following year. So if
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you pay, let's just pick a number five million dollars
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: incentives to all your different players, right, let's say it's ten.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: It rolls over to the cap the following year. Is to
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: my knowledge, because obviously most teams are against the cap
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: on the given season, so it doesn't stay on that cap.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: It's it rolls over to the next year. Question for
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the pod, do you plan on doing a preseason preview
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: on go Lo expectation for the majors, new names to
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: look out for any chance. The PGA just lets Kopka
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: back in right away. I just with the baby, the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: go Lo. We have separated it different podcast feed on
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the audio and we have a video platform as well.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I just haven't had any time. You know. They kicked
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: off last week the Sony Open. Chris got her up.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Who was incredible. He looks pretty good, just won. This
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: week they're playing in Pump Springs. Scotti's in the field.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I will plan on. Usually I get kicked up with
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: golf right after the super Bowl. It's just I mean,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of bored. I would have done it today,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: but I just I gotta be with my family, gotta
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: be present with my son. I just haven't had much time,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: but I've been following. I was looking at like, uh,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you know, Max Home is like one hundred and twenty
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to one. I'm like, did I take him top ten?
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Like ten to one? So I had the Sony Open
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: on last week in the office with the football game,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I just I will do some stuff probably in a
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, for sure. I'm a big fan. All
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: My older brother just had his first child at Christmas,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: and I brought him a tiny Dallas Cowboy jersey as
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboy fan myself and want him to join.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: The misery question, if you had to choose the NFL
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: team for your newborn, who would you choose? Make a
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: pick taking into account future success prospects, not jumping on
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the bandwagon. I'm a big believer, and happens organically, Like
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: why did I grow up liking the San Fransco Giants,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the San Fransco forty nine Ers, the Sacramento Kinks Because
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Davis, California. Right if I would
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: have been born in Lancaster or Pennsylvania or Hoboken, New Jersey,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I would have gravitated toward the Eagles, the Giants, the Mets,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the Phillies. What most human beings are a product of
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: where they live. Now, that's where I draw the fucking line.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't let my son be an Arizona Cardinal fan
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: if there was money coming my way. That will not
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: be tolerated. Unless the Bidwell family sells, we get a
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: real guy that then we could be open. But I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: can't control what he likes. With who's to say that
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: he even likes sports. I hope he does, but there's
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: no guarantee. What if he likes you know, my brother's
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: like big duck Hunter just wan duck hunting and Ido
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: like this stuff that I don't like. You just never know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: kid the kid, what people are gonna gravitate toward what
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: they're gonna like. We all have different likes than our
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: own siblings, so I don't know. I mean, what if
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: he likes to paint, hope he's fucking Picasso. I hope
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: he likes football. I definitely hope he likes golf so
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: we can play a lot and get out of the house.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Uh be awesome. I won't even need an excuse for
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: like me and Jacker head of the course. But there's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: just no guarantee. I mean shit, I was reading them
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: a book today. I had to have explained. Shows you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: how out of the loop I am with kids. The
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: black and white books. You know, they don't see color.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: So I was just reading them the book like here's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: the fish, here's the star. And she looks at me.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, you have to put that in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: front of his face so he can see the pictures.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, new, dad didn't know that but so
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I did that. You know, it's like here's the shark.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: You just never know. We got a long way to go.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: We're not even seven days into this bad boy, but
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Cardinal's not allowed. I'd be open to whatever. I would
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: tend to lean in pro sports. Just there's no I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: mean football, you never know. I mean it's by the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: time he's ten, Josh Allen will be retired. I would
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: like him to be something fun. Quick question. Do you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: think the future we'll see more teams opt to fire
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: their current non offensive head coach in lieu of the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: whiz kid offensive coordinator. Lions are missing Ben Johnson, they
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: had him in the building. I think it's easier said
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: than done, Like, what are you gonna do? Fire Dan Campbell?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Last year after being the number one seed? What are
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? Fire? You know? I mean, is Kellen
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Moore even a better coach than Sirianni? But okay, Kellen
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Moore over Sirianni. It's Todd Bowles last year they were
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Youre gonna fire him? For Liam Cohen.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's way easier said than done. I really
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: do so. I it will happen. There will be a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: situation where it happens. I just think it's very, very difficult.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: If like you were just in the AFC Championship game,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you're like, our guy's a whiz kid, He's gonna get hired.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, look at the Falcons. Do you think
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: years ago, like looking back, they should have just hired
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. But how are you gonna hire Kyle Shanahan
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: fire Dan Quinn. I mean, it happens constantly. I just
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: think it's easier said than done, and it's also easier
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: after the fact. Question for the bail back whether there's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: truly a dominant team in college basketball, we always ask
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the question, could they beat an NBA team? Could it happened?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: And it seems the answer is always unequivocally no. I'm
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: wondering if this is the same for college football. As
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: dominant as Indiana has been this season and especially in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, would they or any dominant college team like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: nineteen LSU with Burrow have a chance to win a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: game against an awful NFL team like this year's Titans,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Raiders Jets. I think it depends if you told me
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, for like a one or
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: two year win team and their players are injured, and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you're rolling out a bunch of practice squad guys and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: you gave me an all time great college team. It
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: would have to be loaded both sides of the ball
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: with pros. I would say, yeah, I'd give you a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: shot now week one, when people are healthy like the Raiders.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: The Raiders are drafting number one. Week one, the Raiders
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: fully healthy, Brock Bauers, Max Crosby, Gino Smith, Jacoby Myers,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Ashon Genty. The Indiana would get killed. Max Crosby would
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: dominate that game. How would they cover brock Bowers In
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: fair to people in the NFL, can't cover Indiana's you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: know that corner that is he a small school guy
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: like Kent State or whatever. They got pretty good. But
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: think about this, Miami in that game would actually have
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: a better chance than Indiana. Why because they have way
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: more pros on the offensive indefensive line. The crazy part
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: about Indiana is beside Mendoza, some people will say they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: don't have a top one hundred player, Sarat going in
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the top seventy five, the corners five to nine, probably not.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the left tackles coming out, Who's
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the offensive line of the year. Most people view him
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: as a guard. Running backs are solid, but what are
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: they third day picks, so they're probably a bad example.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Some of like the Sweet Ohio State teams LSU, I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: don't think it was good enough on defense. Bama would
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: probably be. You'd need defense as much as offense. Like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: if you had a great offense like LSU, but your
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: defense they had Stingley, but and I think they had
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Patrick Queen too, you wouldn't need you know, bamad teams
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: where or Georgia. It's like nine of our guys were
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: first rounders and had ten year careers in the NFL,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and four of them were Pro Bowlers. But again, you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: would have to play the worst team at the end
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: of the year when they all their backups and practicall
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: guys were playing like the Jets. There's no way Indiana
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: or Miami could beat the Jets week one. I mean
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: week one, they had Sauce, they had Quinn Williams, they
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: had Garrett Wilson, they had Breise Hall, even justin Field's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: running around. They had multiple high picks on their offensive line,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: multiple pass rushers. You'd have no chance. But like who
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: won India you think Indiana could Jeffrey Simmons on the Titans,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the year, when they're playing
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys that aren't gonna be in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the NFL next year. Yeah, I'd be open to it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I really would. NBA, I think it would be a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: lot harder, but look at the NBA now, a third
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: of the league is tanking. When I was the cafeteria
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: was like downstairs it was actually actually was pretty shitty.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: At the hospital. There were Starbucks down there as well.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: When I was walking, I saw Lamello Ball actually walked
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: by twice and immediately think, like, are the Suns trading
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: for this guy? Could I be Sham's right now and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: break news? And I think he was just getting his
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: ankle check because they were in LA one day and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: then Golden State the following day, so maybe stopped in
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Phoenix at the hospital. I don't know, but it was
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: something I was like, that's LaMelo Ball way bigger in person,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: like that's a big fucking dude. Say this about LeVar
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: gotta produce some kids. A couple of NBA players and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a rapper. Props to the LeVar Ball audios. Talk to
• 1:05:59
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