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Chance The Rapper Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I'm real people, real celebrity joined the breakfast What up y'all?
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Speaker 1: Is DJ m vy Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy we
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club got a special guest with us
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Speaker 1: in the building, Champs the rapper Who Chance trump Everybody?
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Speaker 1: You said breakfast club with Donnie? I'm like, who the
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Speaker 1: hell on the show's named Donnie? Donnie Trumpet? What's up? Everybody?
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Speaker 1: Let's start back? Who is Chance? Because I'm familiar with you,
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Speaker 1: I've never really heard a song, never heard of verse.
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Speaker 1: So for someone like me who's not up on a
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Speaker 1: Chance the rapper? Who are you? All right? I'm the rapper.
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Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago twenty one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm done rapper.
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm an artist of shorts and uh from
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Speaker 1: Chicago and for the people. And I got two mixtapes
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Speaker 1: up lasted rappers, one out a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: That would be the one that you know, Yeah he
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Speaker 1: went before that. Guess ten Day. You might know it,
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Speaker 1: you might not know it. Explain the concert, but ten
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Speaker 1: Day ten Day was recorded while I was on ten
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Speaker 1: day suspension from high school. What you do well you
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Speaker 1: get suspended? I have, Yeah, I have marijuana. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what the rules are for. I had not really
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Speaker 1: a lot of weed, but like on school property, I guess,
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Speaker 1: or like a half of zip zip No, like like
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Speaker 1: a like a maybe maybe a quarter maybe a quarter
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Speaker 1: selling a smoking. I was smoking. But they were trying
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Speaker 1: to say I hadn't tend to sell, but I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I had it in one bag. It was for me.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I wasn't really trying to say nothing.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what was incriminating, what was not. I
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Speaker 1: was chilling, but they gave me the suspension. Somebody telling
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Speaker 1: you because Lenna tell you something. When I was in
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Speaker 1: high school, and I shoul probably shouldn't a long time.
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Speaker 1: But when I was in high school, we used to
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Speaker 1: get money when we used to tell on people for
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Speaker 1: having We like lame dude, like lame dude, not know
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Speaker 1: like what he what is he doing with weed? I
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Speaker 1: would go tell on him. I go to the printool
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Speaker 1: like you've always been like because cool and be like, yo,
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Speaker 1: look I got weed. I got a gun. So we
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Speaker 1: tell on him and get money. Well said you got gun?
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Speaker 1: Chat just for people and everything. I hope not. That'd
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Speaker 1: be crazy if I found out somebody told on me.
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Speaker 1: I think it was just the school was into like
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Speaker 1: what I was on and stuff, so like they kind
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Speaker 1: of followed me around. The police officer that was issued
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Speaker 1: to the school, we'll kind of like randomly checked my
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Speaker 1: locker and all types of stuff. And he was actually
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Speaker 1: one of them family. I was a little bit actually,
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Speaker 1: like a couple of blocks away from school because I
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Speaker 1: went to school downtown, so like I was like in
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Speaker 1: an alley somewhere, and dude just walked up on me
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Speaker 1: and grabbed me, took me back to the school, made
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Speaker 1: sure they kicked me out of school, and then then
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Speaker 1: took me to the station off ten days and you
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Speaker 1: did a mixtape in the library? Yeah, yeah, equipment library,
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Speaker 1: they didn't. So there's this thing called You Media and Chicago,
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Speaker 1: which is, uh, it's through Chicago public libraries, and they
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Speaker 1: basically give the space for young kids to learn how
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Speaker 1: to use media, whether it be like you know, using
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Speaker 1: the Internet and different programs for making you know, work stuff,
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Speaker 1: or also like instruments and production software and a recording
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Speaker 1: studio and music theory classes. Me and Donnie both grew
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Speaker 1: up in it, and they're like kind of expanding it now.
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Speaker 1: So I'm working really closely with them. But you didn't
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Speaker 1: pass the weed to Donnie Man. Donnie, do you carry
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Speaker 1: a weed? Now? What is the role? No? Definitely not
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Speaker 1: I have I have my own personal weed carriers on
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Speaker 1: all ten days suspensions. I don't want any of that trouble.
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Speaker 1: Your mom was going to the library to study and
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Speaker 1: you was actually making a mixtape. Yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 1: think my mom was glad that I was at the
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Speaker 1: library regardless. I didn't have to really expound on what
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Speaker 1: I was doing that. I was just like, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to the library. But it was like yeah, it
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Speaker 1: was like all that stuff. And then there was also
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Speaker 1: an open mic program through that called Lyricists, and like um,
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Speaker 1: it was led by a guy named Brother Mike rest
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Speaker 1: in Peace. But he was my mentor growing up, and
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Speaker 1: he would just have all these kids from the city,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, all sides of the city
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Speaker 1: because it was right downtown, so like all the trains
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Speaker 1: came there and everybody would come and just you know,
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Speaker 1: make a statement like the answer sing or you know, rapper,
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Speaker 1: do a little bit of comedy for working stuff like
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Speaker 1: but people will come up and present and that was
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Speaker 1: my spot that's all like game my fans. Now, I
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Speaker 1: did just read that you opened up a digital library
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Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yeah, so I opened up the car. DIDU
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Speaker 1: wasn't shout out to Cardiguuson. I think it's still February
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Speaker 1: right now, Black History months. You know. Well, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what made me go back and listen to your music. Um,
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Speaker 1: it was Lallapalooza and they were saying that you were
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Speaker 1: like the highlight of Lallapalooza last year. You know, not
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Speaker 1: only was it Chicago, but you brought out our Kelly
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Speaker 1: came out and performed with you. You had everybody, you're
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Speaker 1: teaching everybody. How did you watched our Kelly tape growing up?
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Speaker 1: That's wild? Yes, yeah, well I don't know if it
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Speaker 1: was our Kelly on the tape. He said it wasn't him.
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Speaker 1: You learn anything from that tape? From that tape? Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, you're crazy. And I've been trying to peek
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Speaker 1: do you mind if I finished? Oh I'm sorry, thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, so that's actually what made me
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Speaker 1: go back and say, okay, And you were on the
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Speaker 1: double XIL Freshman cover and that was another thing. But
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Speaker 1: when Tray I was up here. He said, y'all had
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Speaker 1: some type of issue, Like he called you a weird
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Speaker 1: because he walked up through your face and called you
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Speaker 1: a weird old wrapper. Me and Troy have are cool people's.
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Speaker 1: Uh we met at the at the double xhel Shoot.
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Speaker 1: We didn't we didn't know each other really before that,
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Speaker 1: but uh was here. I can stay at office. No,
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Speaker 1: we was cool. It was I don't know, maybe he
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Speaker 1: felt standoffish and I just didn't detect it. But we're cool,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I got really sick
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Speaker 1: early last year when I was getting ready to play Coachella,
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Speaker 1: and he texted, I had like a high flute, like
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Speaker 1: a high temperature mixed with flue, mixed with like, uh
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Speaker 1: like tonsilitis just a bunch of stuff from I remember
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Speaker 1: because everybody was excited after a lot of PALLUSA. Everybody
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Speaker 1: was like, we got to see a chance to wrap
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Speaker 1: it perform. Yeah, yeah, I mean I did. I did
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Speaker 1: the first weekend of Coachella, brought out Justin Bieber. It
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Speaker 1: was a huge thing. Then I went on a string
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Speaker 1: of shows like for my birthday, because my birthday was
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Speaker 1: in between. I got really sick on that little in
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Speaker 1: between week and then when it was time for the
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Speaker 1: next weekend, I came down with this you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, terrible temperature and fluid stuff, so I couldn't play.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of people hit me up with like
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Speaker 1: words of like, you know what I'm saying, I hope
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Speaker 1: you're doing all right. And Troy was one of them,
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Speaker 1: and like he didn't like you back then at the
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Speaker 1: Double XL. He probably didn't know. We don't. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: didn't know each other. I think the thing is what
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Speaker 1: we we both didn't really understand where each other were
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Speaker 1: coming from at first, but like now we understand, like
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Speaker 1: we just have our own lays and we both want
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Speaker 1: each other to be successful. Troy says he's the dealer
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Speaker 1: and guys like you were the user. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I like, there's there's different ways to look at everything, right,
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Speaker 1: we do you think it's it's kind of messed up
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Speaker 1: that is classism and Rapp though for sure I think
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Speaker 1: it's messed up that is classism in the world, but
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Speaker 1: definitely and Rap. I think it's weird that Rap is
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Speaker 1: like one of the only like you know, really really
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Speaker 1: uh not just competitive sport musics, but like contact sport music.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's if there's always
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Speaker 1: feels like there has to be one defined objective winner
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Speaker 1: of music and we always have to find one person
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Speaker 1: that's you know, killing everybody else, and it's it's not
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Speaker 1: really like that another genres and I think that that's
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't think it's just weird.
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Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know what I'm saying, systematically
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Speaker 1: like that because it's a predominantly black art and it's
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Speaker 1: a successful it, so people don't want it to be like,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, a bunch of people taking
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Speaker 1: over music and it would rather be you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, the crabs in the barrel thing.
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Speaker 1: I think I think everybody can move successfully and do
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Speaker 1: what they want to do and make the type of
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Speaker 1: music they want to make. And uh, it'll make the
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Speaker 1: genre as a whole and not just the genre, but
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Speaker 1: because we said it's superdominantly black genre, like, uh will
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Speaker 1: make the people move as a whole right now. You
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Speaker 1: you also volunteered for Barack Obama when he was campaigning.
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Speaker 1: How was that? Because they said your dad worked closely
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Speaker 1: with him, Yeah, No, my pops has worked with Brock
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Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, my pops is like a
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Speaker 1: mover in a shaker, you know what I'm saying. Like
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Speaker 1: he has worked in government for a really long time.
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Speaker 1: He works in the Mayor's office now, but yeah, all
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Speaker 1: throughout high school he worked in the White House. I
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Speaker 1: used to live in DC. Thank you from like DC? Right,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, but uh yeah, he I grew up, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Working, How did your pops feel
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Speaker 1: with what you go into the rap game? Since you
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Speaker 1: was so connected politically, I mean when I was really young,
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Speaker 1: because I've been doing this since I was really young,
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Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, thirteen fourteen, Like I
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Speaker 1: think originally it wasn't necessarily the main idea, but I
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Speaker 1: think it as as as it grew. My dad is like,
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Speaker 1: you know, he was a campaign manager. He put people
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Speaker 1: in office, but showed people to the people, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, And my dad at a certain
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Speaker 1: point kind of campaign managed me and showed me how
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Speaker 1: to like, you know, print flyers and and move on
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Speaker 1: foot and work organically with the people to like he
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Speaker 1: was a political activist kind of you go there, I'm
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Speaker 1: for the people for your dad to do from Scans
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Speaker 1: what's the guy's name? From Scander? Would you say that
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Speaker 1: Palooza in Chicago was probably, like to date, maybe your
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Speaker 1: biggest most impactful performance. Definitely for me. Yeah, well we
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Speaker 1: had played Lollapalooza a couple of years on the road.
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Speaker 1: What do you do? I played the trumpet mostly, but
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Speaker 1: I do lots of things, um as Donnie trumpet. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: y'all a group? Yeah, yeah, we're a band. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're the Social Experiment. We're a collective. Okay, we are
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Speaker 1: the Social Experiment. Uh. Donnie is the leader. Um. He
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Speaker 1: played with kids these Days and with Frank Ocean and
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Speaker 1: we've worked together in the past and eventually we started
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Speaker 1: our own band, Social Experiment. So we've been you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we're the the name in front of
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, Uh, all of our
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Speaker 1: events that we throw, you know, we do like like
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Speaker 1: you just said, social and political activism, and we do
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Speaker 1: that as a social experiment. We just make a lot
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Speaker 1: of moves. But yeah, Donnie is like, you're the first
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Speaker 1: one coming album, um, and the first one coming out
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Speaker 1: with a group project. So the first social Experiment project
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Speaker 1: as a as a unit is headed by Donnie Trumpet.
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Speaker 1: I like that name. What's the Social Experiment is? What
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Speaker 1: is the Social Experiment? Exactly? I like that name. What
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Speaker 1: is y'all to social experience? Okay, so the Social Experiment
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Speaker 1: is more than just me and Donnie, but it's it's
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Speaker 1: a collective of a lot of different artists that, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, are interested in making dope free stuff,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it doesn't even really
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Speaker 1: just refer to music, but like it's it's a it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a blend of production and writing. That's how
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Speaker 1: we started off. Like after I finished my last project
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Speaker 1: as her, I started doing a lot of writing and
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Speaker 1: producing for other artists in this collective called the Social
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Speaker 1: Experiment and worked with some really dope artists like H. L.
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Speaker 1: Varner and J Cole and Jill Scott and White Left
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Speaker 1: and a lot of different people. And uh, eventually we
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Speaker 1: were like yo, Like, while we were touring as the
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Speaker 1: band as my backup band for for my live shows,
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Speaker 1: we started making songs that we were like, we shouldn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily show this to anybody or try and get somebody
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Speaker 1: to singer or rap it or you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: put it out. We should put it out ourselves. So
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Speaker 1: since then, we've just been on kind of a mission
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Speaker 1: to make the dopest stuff that we can possible and
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Speaker 1: give it away free. Yeah, that's the that's the move.
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Speaker 1: That's what what charge for shows merchandise were. Yeah. I mean,
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Speaker 1: money's gonna be made in different ways. I think, like
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Speaker 1: there art, like you said, merchandise, touring, uh, sponsorships. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of way for artists to make money without
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Speaker 1: necessarily selling their songs for one dollar, doing like a
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Speaker 1: small deal with Spotify for you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: some type of distribution. Um, but you've met with all
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Speaker 1: kinds of labels you just have opted not to sign. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think. I mean it's a it's it's a it's
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Speaker 1: a deep conversation. A lot of thoughts come to my
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Speaker 1: mind when Yeah, I like, I like how deep it gets.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Charlotagne for the deep questions. Um, I think, uh,
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Speaker 1: I think now it's but I think like the whole
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Speaker 1: thing with music is that it's moving in a direction
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Speaker 1: where it's going to become a little bit more exclusive.
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Speaker 1: I love the way that music is very inclusive and
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Speaker 1: it's used to bring a lot of people to different things,
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Speaker 1: mainly advertising, you know what I'm saying, building a brands
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Speaker 1: and stuff. But I think it's not just a black
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Speaker 1: thing anymore. It's not just a black thing anymore. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's not just a you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the musical thing. It's about music and lyrics.
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Speaker 1: It's about being able to relate with people. And I
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Speaker 1: think all of that stuff is dope, but we're kind
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Speaker 1: of trying to retract it into a you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean when I say bohemian society, like all bohemian. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we also want people to stop hating on people for
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Speaker 1: having dreadlocks. Also, like that's that's one of the things.
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Speaker 1: What's independent? Then you mentioned independent? Is it is it successful?
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Speaker 1: Because a lot of autists that they're independent and they're
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Speaker 1: getting six seven dollars an album, and we know that's
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Speaker 1: not true. It sounds great, it sounds good, but we
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Speaker 1: don't see the money. So is it a way that
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Speaker 1: you want to go? Because with a major they will
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Speaker 1: push you to a scale that you you can't do independently.
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Speaker 1: I might not necessarily agree with you. I'm pushing you
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Speaker 1: to a level that that you might not be able
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Speaker 1: to get to. There's definitely the distribution. They could put
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Speaker 1: you in the seat that I'm in right now and
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Speaker 1: tell you, you know what I'm saying, to go up
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Speaker 1: to the radio stations. They can put you on a
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Speaker 1: stage somewhere like I was last night. I could put
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Speaker 1: you in a lot of different places. But I think
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Speaker 1: it's about being you know what I'm saying, the manager
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Speaker 1: of the project, of the project, of the product. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like how you get there right exactly?
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Speaker 1: So like for me and for Nico and for the
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Speaker 1: social experiment. Nico's his real name. I know, Donnie is
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Speaker 1: his name that everybody knows mess but I call him
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Speaker 1: Nico Donnie choose one, Yeah, But for us, it's about
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Speaker 1: that groundwork. It's about, like you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: having that person to person connection. Some people that that
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Speaker 1: buy my music are investing me as a product and
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Speaker 1: as a person know me and they feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: connected to the community and connect it just in a
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Speaker 1: way that's closer than like, you know, that third person
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Speaker 1: relationship when you're when you're buying an album from Deaf Jam.
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Speaker 1: But you're supporting this one artist. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: The label is you know I'm saying, um pushing the product.
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Speaker 1: And then there's the consumer, and the consumer is the john.
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Speaker 1: So basically the firsthand supply it exactly exactly when Madonna
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Speaker 1: comes to you and says I need you to get
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Speaker 1: on the song. There's no clearances that she has to
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Speaker 1: She can just come to you and you can help on. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean we still gotta work out. Yeah, we still
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Speaker 1: gotta work out our clarances. I still need my side
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Speaker 1: artist agreement. I still got lawyers. I still like, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, label, But there's nobody that's gonna
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Speaker 1: take the percentage. There's nobody that's gonna say, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna work out the deal for you and find out
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Speaker 1: how much you work. Are you guys on your own publishing? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we got our publishing house. We got you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. We do, We do the stuff that we
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Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm sorry, am I talking to no? No? No?
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Speaker 1: I got a very deep question for Donnie. Donnie, deep question,
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Speaker 1: do you get a lot of playing the trumpet because
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Speaker 1: people always say, give the drum or something. We never
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Speaker 1: hear somebody to give the trumpet. Classically, it is a
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Speaker 1: very um women friendly instrument. It requires a lot of
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Speaker 1: mouth work, a lot of blow. There you go. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that's it. Maybe it's the beautiful sound. Maybe it's the
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Speaker 1: man behind the trumpet. True, it's all those things. Listen,
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Speaker 1: you smashed Madonna or what man? Because she bought you
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Speaker 1: a school. She's just not gonna buy you know school bro. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: she definitely asked her verses for school this chance. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not doing no verses for no scooters. But no,
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Speaker 1: we're just we're close friends. She's a very respectable woman.
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Speaker 1: How did that happen? You're twenty one years old? Mcdonna's
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Speaker 1: sixty something, right. How do y'all be come close for us? Oh?
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Speaker 1: That's actually funny. I just realized. Well I met her
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Speaker 1: through Frank Ocean, who's a friend of mine. Uh. He
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Speaker 1: brought her to a show once. Uh and what l
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Speaker 1: a Frank mcdonna too. I mean mcdonna was one of
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Speaker 1: those people we think about being on this super b
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Speaker 1: like on another planet, you know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 1: her and Michael, Like you don't just see mcdonna at
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Speaker 1: his show. Big Daddy came back in the day, Like
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Speaker 1: Donna knows what's up? You know what I'm saying. She
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Speaker 1: comes to what she? Yeah, I guess she. She came
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Speaker 1: through Frank and put her onto the music. And I
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Speaker 1: only know that Frank through through Donnie, or originally knew
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Speaker 1: him through Donnie, but uh yeah, Frank brought it through
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Speaker 1: a show. We met real quick. We didn't talk for
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Speaker 1: a while, and then we were at some festival and
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Speaker 1: I got a call from jay Z and he was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: Madonna asked me to get on the tracker. Uh this
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Speaker 1: iconic record about icons, blah blah blah, And I think
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Speaker 1: that it'd be better if somebody who was a new
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Speaker 1: person I think could be a new icon got on
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Speaker 1: the recorded in your story, Hold, just have your number
16:18
Speaker 1: to call you. Who are you? Who are you? You
16:21
Speaker 1: actually didn't call my personal sell you called Pat the manager,
16:24
Speaker 1: my manager. But uh yeah we know some people at
16:26
Speaker 1: rock Nation. Uh. Jay Z had us play the Main
16:29
Speaker 1: America festival last year and his wife got checked out
16:32
Speaker 1: our set. So the wife Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, I mean
16:37
Speaker 1: you can't say that. You can say Jacob oh Jacob's
16:42
Speaker 1: all right, I thought you were trying to be clever
16:45
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean that was clever. That was very clever. Yes,
16:51
Speaker 1: one of your shows too, Yeah, that didn't make the move.
16:54
Speaker 1: Like when she supported Joey Badass. Yeah, I don't know.
16:57
Speaker 1: People are out for Joey and I don't really under
17:00
Speaker 1: stand it, but like, yeah, like she's she likes music.
17:05
Speaker 1: I'm not really really close to her, but like we
17:07
Speaker 1: may be met a couple of times when I was
17:09
Speaker 1: a shorty because like I said, my dad used to
17:12
Speaker 1: work for Obama, but it is your dad, like Jason Bourne,
17:15
Speaker 1: and like everybody knows this. So that's why, like people,
17:18
Speaker 1: you're so easy to get, like very much. So yeah,
17:20
Speaker 1: I mean it's not very very easy. My dad doesn't
17:22
Speaker 1: work in the music brold than stuff. But like when
17:24
Speaker 1: I want to do like like like we were talking
17:26
Speaker 1: about the social activism and political activism and you know,
17:29
Speaker 1: I starting our our own open mic in Chicago, and
17:32
Speaker 1: I was working with the Field Museum to do a
17:34
Speaker 1: uh you know, a free museum campus day for South
17:37
Speaker 1: and West Side neighborhoods and anything that we want to do.
17:40
Speaker 1: I know, I have the proper channels and it's through
17:42
Speaker 1: my connections and like the tactics that we learned early
17:45
Speaker 1: on for just getting music to the people, and just
17:48
Speaker 1: like understanding and realizing our own fan base and our
17:51
Speaker 1: own friends could be the people that support us, you know,
17:55
Speaker 1: are artistically you know, like his his father's background in politics.
18:00
Speaker 1: It's definitely contributed to us being out on the street
18:03
Speaker 1: like passing out mixtapes and and we're for people. So
18:07
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out. Did all of this
18:08
Speaker 1: start happening for you with twenty thirteen when you did
18:10
Speaker 1: Aster Rappers? That when you started getting all these connections,
18:12
Speaker 1: the jay Z's, the Madonna's justin all of this happened
18:16
Speaker 1: in that year. Um, yeah, I would say for the
18:19
Speaker 1: most part, like, uh, twenty twelve, I dropped the Ten
18:22
Speaker 1: Day Project that was a year out of high school,
18:24
Speaker 1: and uh it things were things were bubbling for me
18:27
Speaker 1: in the city, and the city as a whole was popping,
18:30
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Everybody was coming up around
18:31
Speaker 1: the same time. And then I think the Aster Rap
18:34
Speaker 1: Project was just a little bit um better put together
18:39
Speaker 1: and we had a better game plan for it, and
18:41
Speaker 1: I put out you know what I'm saying, professionally put
18:43
Speaker 1: out a tape as a chance to rapp it before.
18:45
Speaker 1: So once I put that out and we had like
18:47
Speaker 1: the game plan set for how we're gonna two hour
18:49
Speaker 1: we're gonna do merge and and you know what I'm saying,
18:52
Speaker 1: just a full, you know, well thought out game plan.
18:55
Speaker 1: Things took off, and I think people just started to
18:57
Speaker 1: take notice, Now what's up with vic Mitch because I
18:59
Speaker 1: do listen to him. I got put on the vig
19:00
Speaker 1: Menzo when I was at south By Southwest last year
19:02
Speaker 1: and I saw him perform at the Woodies. So I
19:05
Speaker 1: was like, what's up with this victa dude? He had
19:06
Speaker 1: to think it was saved the money or saved save money.
19:09
Speaker 1: And it was like him a chance rapper in the group,
19:11
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they go that named Chance the rapper again,
19:13
Speaker 1: So who that's my brother. We we went to grade
19:19
Speaker 1: school together and um went through lots of different musical
19:22
Speaker 1: phases of of you know, like a rock phase where
19:25
Speaker 1: we all listened to like Pink Floyd and led Zeppelin
19:28
Speaker 1: and stuff, and then we went through like a hip
19:30
Speaker 1: hop hip hop phase. Well you know what I'm saying,
19:32
Speaker 1: We're like we only listened to old, old school hip
19:34
Speaker 1: hop and like underground hip hop and uh hip hop
19:37
Speaker 1: that was all about like hip hop. And then uh right,
19:41
Speaker 1: and then um we were in a band together called
19:44
Speaker 1: Kids These Days for a couple of years in Chicago,
19:47
Speaker 1: and we kind of, uh we we would do all
19:50
Speaker 1: the guerrilla tactics that we were talking about, you know,
19:52
Speaker 1: Chance doing for acid rapping ten day, Like we would
19:55
Speaker 1: be in the high schools PA, you know, selling tickets
19:57
Speaker 1: and going to different high schools in the city and
20:00
Speaker 1: blasting our music out the trunk and trying to sell
20:03
Speaker 1: tickets and trying to get people to come to shows
20:04
Speaker 1: and stuff. So um, yeah, we just kind of came
20:07
Speaker 1: up in a real musical place and with the band.
20:10
Speaker 1: You know, Vic got a lot of experience writing music
20:13
Speaker 1: in that way, like jamming in a room with a
20:15
Speaker 1: bunch of people playing instruments. You know, he's always been
20:18
Speaker 1: a very uh instrumental person of vocalist and you know,
20:23
Speaker 1: so when we would play shows, a lot of times
20:25
Speaker 1: Chance would come up and rap verses or just like
20:28
Speaker 1: jump around. And then when um we started playing south
20:36
Speaker 1: By Southwest and Chance came to south By and we
20:39
Speaker 1: we just it kind of all came together in a
20:42
Speaker 1: really organic way, you know, and we started jamming together
20:45
Speaker 1: and rests history. Who do you think has been the
20:48
Speaker 1: most inspirational person that's reached out to you, somebody that
20:51
Speaker 1: you admired that you were shocked, like, was it Andre
20:53
Speaker 1: three thousand or you know, because he's a difficult persons deem. Yeah, Uh,
21:00
Speaker 1: the sex is like you know what I'm saying. I
21:02
Speaker 1: think most people that make music that are orange and
21:05
Speaker 1: I'm saying and people that are older and younger, but
21:08
Speaker 1: he's yeah, we feel like he's the best, the best,
21:12
Speaker 1: and so like, can you really put him in that category?
21:14
Speaker 1: They always had this conversation with and I love Andre,
21:17
Speaker 1: but he's never given us a full body of work
21:19
Speaker 1: rap wise as a solo, but as outcasts they put
21:22
Speaker 1: out some of the best, absolutely the greatest group, no
21:25
Speaker 1: question with him as a solo artist, I don't know yet. Well,
21:27
Speaker 1: The Love Below is like one of the best albums
21:30
Speaker 1: if we just counted that as a as an the
21:32
Speaker 1: whole eight to eaton Heartbreaks thing to me, Yeah, it's
21:34
Speaker 1: fawned a whole lot of music and let people know
21:36
Speaker 1: that you could do something different hip hop. I think
21:38
Speaker 1: every one of the albums did it took um you
21:41
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, black music out of the box
21:43
Speaker 1: and made people feel like and just the whole idea
21:46
Speaker 1: of being a rapper, I mean, like being a vocalist
21:49
Speaker 1: and being a rapper and being like a being an
21:51
Speaker 1: instrument you know, like he the way he changes his
21:54
Speaker 1: voice or manipulates his voice and like pitches it up
21:56
Speaker 1: in weird ways or like speed stuff up and slow
21:59
Speaker 1: stuff down. Like he he made his voice something more
22:02
Speaker 1: than just like writing a rap, you know what I mean.
22:04
Speaker 1: Like and and it inspired a lot of people after
22:07
Speaker 1: him to treat their voice in unique ways and to
22:10
Speaker 1: come up with their own ways of of making rap
22:12
Speaker 1: music that wasn't just writing raps. Now when y'all thought
22:14
Speaker 1: experiment with drugs because you just don't make a called
22:17
Speaker 1: acid rap. And I mean I had the whole pink
22:19
Speaker 1: Floyd led Zeppelin. It must have been around that time. Yeah,
22:21
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'll actually attributed to somebody.
22:25
Speaker 1: This girl I used to date a variety free when
22:28
Speaker 1: I was in a senior in high school. You know,
22:31
Speaker 1: I can't say that on the radio because that's just
22:33
Speaker 1: a great school with her. Yeah, no, he knows, Shorty.
22:35
Speaker 1: She was just she was my friend, but she's queen.
22:41
Speaker 1: She's a travelers around but she she's like, yeah, you know,
22:46
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that that's the type of occupation
22:49
Speaker 1: white people can't move around. I'm sorry, damn, I did
22:52
Speaker 1: say that on the radio People Together, Chance Community, Community Community.
22:56
Speaker 1: I was just making a joke, but Shorty introduced me, like,
23:00
Speaker 1: gave me some some acid. When I was so, you
23:04
Speaker 1: went from weed to ascid or did you start drinking first?
23:07
Speaker 1: I was, I'm still not a drinker. I was never
23:09
Speaker 1: really a drinker. I used to smoke weed, and I
23:11
Speaker 1: actually I smoked cigarettes from a really young age, which
23:14
Speaker 1: is a terrible habit. But like yeah, and when like cigarettes,
23:18
Speaker 1: we asked, and now I kind of really badly smoke
23:21
Speaker 1: with you. This is why you shouldn't come to the
23:23
Speaker 1: assumptions about people. Because when I saw the CD called
23:25
Speaker 1: acid Rap, and then I heard people like Troy asked say,
23:29
Speaker 1: you know those are the guys that rap about using
23:31
Speaker 1: and then it users, I wasn't interested, Like I don't
23:33
Speaker 1: want to hear you know what I'm saying, I don't
23:34
Speaker 1: do ascid. I'm not into that lifestyle. But then I'm
23:37
Speaker 1: sitting here here and you talk. You're very political minded.
23:41
Speaker 1: Your father comes from the government, you know. It seems
23:43
Speaker 1: like you're doing things very grassroots, which is another question
23:46
Speaker 1: I have because um Be Dot from Rapper eight or
23:48
Speaker 1: he always I asked him about you one time and
23:50
Speaker 1: he said that you're a product of media hype, Like
23:53
Speaker 1: a lot of publications put you on the front of
23:55
Speaker 1: their magazines and stuff early, you know, a couple of
23:57
Speaker 1: years ago, and you're more of a product of media
24:00
Speaker 1: than actual I guess having a fan talent, we live
24:03
Speaker 1: and we live in media hype, like we the reason
24:06
Speaker 1: why people are successful a lot of the time nowadays
24:09
Speaker 1: is because of media hype, or because of the Twitter
24:12
Speaker 1: and the soundclouds and the facebooks and the and all
24:14
Speaker 1: the different ways that these kids can literally talk to
24:18
Speaker 1: chance to rapp or literally talk to some of their
24:21
Speaker 1: favorite artists, you know what I mean. Like they can
24:23
Speaker 1: explain themselves and ask questions and get information to shows
24:26
Speaker 1: and get all the information for the for the download
24:29
Speaker 1: of the album, and they can get whatever they need
24:31
Speaker 1: from this one place, and it's really simple and it's
24:33
Speaker 1: really easy for them to get. And I think the
24:36
Speaker 1: whole idea of media hype has changed by by making
24:39
Speaker 1: the Internet the place where people find music, like it's
24:42
Speaker 1: it's the place where people understanding and get music now.
24:45
Speaker 1: So it's like the idea of media hype is music now.
24:50
Speaker 1: After that early on with the cover of Complex, the
24:52
Speaker 1: cover been did you want that so early? I mean
24:55
Speaker 1: for me, I guess for different people, it seems like
24:57
Speaker 1: it comes at a different time, right, Like I mean
24:59
Speaker 1: I any one. So to some people, I might be young,
25:01
Speaker 1: and to some people I'm older. But like when I
25:05
Speaker 1: got the Complex stuff, like I said, I've been making
25:07
Speaker 1: music since I was fourteen. I was recording in basements
25:09
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying, terrible microphones and all
25:11
Speaker 1: types of Like I've been through the fields and falls
25:15
Speaker 1: of a struggling rapper, you know what I'm saying, And
25:17
Speaker 1: I still feel like a struggling rapper. I still feel
25:19
Speaker 1: like I'm hungry. No, I don't think you're struggling anymore.
25:22
Speaker 1: I got I'm saying polo out here and stuff, but
25:28
Speaker 1: like it's not it's it's for me. It was never
25:32
Speaker 1: I never wanted to, like, uh, feel like I was
25:35
Speaker 1: something being you know what I'm saying, shoved down people's throats,
25:37
Speaker 1: Like what's you felt like I like too many people
25:41
Speaker 1: were telling you a chance to rapper, and I saw
25:43
Speaker 1: you on COVID and magazines and I'm like, but I've
25:44
Speaker 1: never heard a song. Yeah, I've never heard of verse.
25:47
Speaker 1: It's the type of music where you have to listen
25:50
Speaker 1: to the music to be like, oh my god. Now
25:52
Speaker 1: I'm a subscriber. You know what I'm saying. It's not
25:54
Speaker 1: the type of music where your friend can tell you yo,
25:58
Speaker 1: we've put chance the rapper now and you gets on YouTube.
26:01
Speaker 1: A lot of people watch your videos and a lot
26:04
Speaker 1: of the artists really messed with you too. Yeah. I mean,
26:06
Speaker 1: I think guys, everybody to understand it. I don't think
26:09
Speaker 1: you necessarily have to be on asset. I think you
26:12
Speaker 1: gotta if you like music, if you like if you
26:14
Speaker 1: like music and lyrics, like if you're not like a
26:17
Speaker 1: person that's like, yo, every bar's gotta be real hot
26:21
Speaker 1: or like yo, I only like this kind of beat,
26:23
Speaker 1: Like if you like music, and every bar should be hot. Yeah,
26:27
Speaker 1: everybody said once you should never waste the bar. Yeah,
26:29
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm fire like acts like I'm very I'm
26:33
Speaker 1: very cold. I just like this, like, you know, I
26:34
Speaker 1: see the video with you an app. So I just
26:36
Speaker 1: didn't like the cigarette smoking because you look young in
26:38
Speaker 1: that video. What was it three years ago? Yeah, four
26:40
Speaker 1: years ago? You old enough to buy a cigarette? You're
26:42
Speaker 1: not Kylie Jenner. No, But back he wasn't. And I
26:44
Speaker 1: think that, you know, promoted he's smoking like a he's
26:46
Speaker 1: smoking like a crazy person outside waiting in the cold,
26:48
Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette like he's smoking. But but the video
26:51
Speaker 1: was dope. I have a terrible smoking of it. But
26:53
Speaker 1: I don't like I'm not. I've realized now I'm not
26:56
Speaker 1: trying to be smoke. You don't smoke. We would smoke cigarettes. Yeah.
26:59
Speaker 1: It's easier to quit smoking weed though than it is
27:01
Speaker 1: to Chris smoking cigarette. But yeah, I mean there was
27:04
Speaker 1: a certain point where I thought that that was like
27:06
Speaker 1: And because I was younger, I had a different way
27:08
Speaker 1: of thinking. But I thought that was my brand. I
27:09
Speaker 1: thought it was cool for me to be you know
27:11
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to be myself and because smoking cigarette
27:14
Speaker 1: was myself. I want to smoke cigarettes and videos I
27:16
Speaker 1: want to be I'm not gonna wear different clothes for videos.
27:19
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this for videos because I want
27:21
Speaker 1: to be myself. And I figured out recently that cigarettes
27:24
Speaker 1: isn't myself, that's just something that I do in the
27:27
Speaker 1: middle seat wrapping, but exactly. Yeah, no, Brad, do you
27:30
Speaker 1: think like you You think your buzz has diminished a
27:33
Speaker 1: little bit. And the only reason I say that is
27:34
Speaker 1: just because of the surface. You know, back then you
27:36
Speaker 1: was on the cover of magazines and all over the places,
27:38
Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, you kind of disappeared. Bullshit.
27:41
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I haven't released a lot
27:45
Speaker 1: of newer uh, I haven't released a project in a
27:48
Speaker 1: long time, and people like projects, um, but I think
27:52
Speaker 1: everybody's pretty excited for this Surf project, which is the
27:55
Speaker 1: first social experiment project. I mean, I think if it
27:59
Speaker 1: wasn't for that, I probably wouldn't have sold out Webster
28:02
Speaker 1: Hall last night or got the cover of Fader. You
28:05
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the whole band, or be
28:06
Speaker 1: sitting here talking to y'all. I think it's it's everybody's
28:09
Speaker 1: looking for what I want to do next, and I'm
28:12
Speaker 1: glad that people are interested. And the answer is, I'm
28:14
Speaker 1: gonna do new music. I'm gonna do new dope surf
28:18
Speaker 1: about beaches, surfboards, waves, It's it's, uh, what is surf about. Um.
28:26
Speaker 1: Surf originally was a play on wanting to live in
28:32
Speaker 1: La kind of and living in Chicago, and like there's
28:35
Speaker 1: obviously no surf culture in Chicago like there is in LA.
28:39
Speaker 1: But we were making a lot of wavy music, so um,
28:44
Speaker 1: it was kind of uh you feel me, it was
28:48
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of just an ironic play
28:50
Speaker 1: on the word and the idea of surfing and that
28:54
Speaker 1: being a culture or part of the culture, and um,
28:57
Speaker 1: it just kind of kept growing and changing and evolved thing.
29:00
Speaker 1: And then you know, we brought it all to the
29:02
Speaker 1: to the collective and we all just been hashing it
29:04
Speaker 1: out and it's you know, changed a lot and morphed
29:07
Speaker 1: into what it is and and um, yeah, it's just
29:11
Speaker 1: all around good vibes about what's happening on that album too.
29:15
Speaker 1: I feel like people are putting a lot of talk
29:17
Speaker 1: about great. Um it's a secret. I don't know that like, uh,
29:23
Speaker 1: for me, for I think for all of us, it's
29:26
Speaker 1: the dopest thing is to create music, right, Like we
29:28
Speaker 1: like creating music. That's why we spend time. You know.
29:30
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is just writing and production collective like
29:34
Speaker 1: making music for other people to release because we don't
29:37
Speaker 1: necessarily think that maybe the world isn't ready to hear
29:39
Speaker 1: it out of my out of my voice, you know
29:41
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Or maybe the world isn't ready to
29:43
Speaker 1: experience it from my platform because it won't they won't
29:46
Speaker 1: be able to get to gain access to it, you
29:48
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like there's there's higher people that
29:51
Speaker 1: could use the same songs. So we love just making records,
29:54
Speaker 1: and I think the idea behind this project was to
29:57
Speaker 1: make music as if we are a production and writing
29:59
Speaker 1: collective and like not necessarily focus on making hot records,
30:03
Speaker 1: but making stuff that resonates with people on for a
30:06
Speaker 1: long time. I think all those songs on the project
30:08
Speaker 1: are very uh thematic and cinematic, and every song has
30:12
Speaker 1: its own moment on the project. Every time. I think
30:14
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be able to skip through the project. It's
30:16
Speaker 1: very it's attention grabbing from the moment that you hear it.
30:19
Speaker 1: None of the people that other than you know what
30:21
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Donnie Trumpet in the Social Experiment, I listened
30:23
Speaker 1: on the project, so you got to kind of listen
30:25
Speaker 1: through it to you like special guests, secret verses and stuff. Yeah,
30:28
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a secret for the listeners.
30:30
Speaker 1: It's for the listeners like this project, you know, it's
30:34
Speaker 1: it's like car music, headphone music. Like you can listen
30:38
Speaker 1: to it in a lot of places. You can listen
30:39
Speaker 1: to it with a lot of people. You can also
30:41
Speaker 1: listen to it completely by yourself, you know. Just put
30:43
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, yeah, it also makes stronger exactly though.
30:47
Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to do. Yeah, let it. Let's
30:51
Speaker 1: called you should put it out and tweet surfboard. Boom,
30:54
Speaker 1: do not listen to him. That's such a good joke.
30:57
Speaker 1: You should say it one more time. Okay, Boom, you
31:03
Speaker 1: should do a release like Beyonce tweeted out put hashtag surfboard.
31:09
Speaker 1: When when you only get these kind of jokes here
31:12
Speaker 1: at breakfast club in the morning, me and Charlotte Maine
31:15
Speaker 1: taken over. Now that's a good idea. We are from
31:19
Speaker 1: a city. How did y'all avoid getting killed in that city?
31:22
Speaker 1: That's a great I'm scared of Chicago. Yeah, I mean,
31:25
Speaker 1: how do y'all avoid not joining gangs, not picking up guns,
31:28
Speaker 1: going that rap um? Well, when you're really really young,
31:31
Speaker 1: it's not really uh, you know, what I'm saying, much
31:34
Speaker 1: of much, too much thought that goes into it, you
31:36
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you you have to learn
31:38
Speaker 1: from the people that are a little bit older than you. So,
31:40
Speaker 1: like I think, for the most part, and it might
31:43
Speaker 1: be an overstatement, but like I think everybody who lives
31:45
Speaker 1: in Chicago at some point throughout a gang, Like everybody
31:48
Speaker 1: in Chicago at some point woke up feeling like you
31:51
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like they were gang affiliated.
31:54
Speaker 1: What number did I don't know. No, it doesn't work
31:58
Speaker 1: like that because there's only fives and sets. But the
32:01
Speaker 1: point is like different kind of six. Yeah, the hope.
32:07
Speaker 1: The only point is uh. I think what we didn't
32:11
Speaker 1: understand was that there's different places to get your information from.
32:15
Speaker 1: So we created this, uh, this this thing called the staff,
32:21
Speaker 1: which is uh collective. It's a collective of myself, people
32:25
Speaker 1: from the Social Experiment, artists from Chicago, King Louis, Hannibal Burris, um,
32:29
Speaker 1: a lot of different people that I work with, where
32:31
Speaker 1: we've created the staff of people that are workers dedicated
32:34
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, creating opportunities for the you.
32:38
Speaker 1: So we do this open mic thing that just started
32:39
Speaker 1: we had our second one. We had a lot of
32:41
Speaker 1: dope people come and cover it in terms of publications,
32:43
Speaker 1: but we do an open mic kind of bi weekly
32:46
Speaker 1: for kids in high school. They bring their ID and
32:48
Speaker 1: then come up and make a statement. You know what
32:50
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not necessarily the quickest way to end
32:54
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Team Violence in Chicago, but
32:56
Speaker 1: it's an outlet and we're the people that have a
32:59
Speaker 1: real in action to these kids, and people know us
33:01
Speaker 1: on a first name basis and can come and have help.
33:04
Speaker 1: We also worked on like I said earlier, uh this
33:07
Speaker 1: uh this collaboration with the Field Museum and the entire
33:10
Speaker 1: museum campus in Chicago to make a free day for
33:13
Speaker 1: kids from the South and West Side to come check
33:14
Speaker 1: out the museums. So having a father just totally kept you. Yeah,
33:18
Speaker 1: great father. It's all about the decisions you make at
33:22
Speaker 1: the end of the day, no matter where you are,
33:23
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, there's gangs and violence
33:25
Speaker 1: anywhere you go. It's just about how you deal with it.
33:27
Speaker 1: And and I think growing up in Chicago, you know,
33:30
Speaker 1: shapes you and molds you into the kind of person
33:32
Speaker 1: that a loyal person or a group of like relying
33:37
Speaker 1: on your friends is okay, and like, you know, the
33:39
Speaker 1: whole idea and gang mentality or whatever has gone completely awry.
33:44
Speaker 1: But it didn't start from a terrible, terrible place. It
33:47
Speaker 1: started from political place. It started from a uniting place.
33:50
Speaker 1: It started from a place of sensitivity, but also a
33:56
Speaker 1: place of strength, you know what I mean, trying to
33:59
Speaker 1: be protective of your of yourself and your friends around you.
34:01
Speaker 1: So I think you know, it's not an invaluable lesson
34:04
Speaker 1: that you learned growing up in Chicago. It's just about
34:06
Speaker 1: how you deal with with what comes from it. What
34:09
Speaker 1: about the ogs in Chicago, your Kanye West and Loupe's
34:12
Speaker 1: in common. You do a lot of work with them.
34:13
Speaker 1: You're doing something a common right, Yeah, I've worked with Common,
34:17
Speaker 1: I've worked with Loupe Twister. I mean, Chicago is a
34:22
Speaker 1: very small place, you know what I'm saying. It's not
34:25
Speaker 1: I know, New York is very vast and there's a
34:27
Speaker 1: lot of greats that have come out of here from
34:28
Speaker 1: the different boroughs, and like people have eventually connected over
34:32
Speaker 1: hip hop. But Chicago is a type of place where
34:35
Speaker 1: more than likely your grandma knows somebody Grandma, you know,
34:37
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like more than likely you grew up
34:39
Speaker 1: down the street from somebody so a small town in
34:41
Speaker 1: a big city at the exact time. My grandmother and
34:43
Speaker 1: Common's mother are really good friends. For example, so Common
34:47
Speaker 1: actually called me when I was a shorty going to
34:50
Speaker 1: the library and left a voicemail message about how I
34:52
Speaker 1: should keep it up and like keep working on my
34:54
Speaker 1: music type. You know what I'm saying. You get the
34:56
Speaker 1: best random phone calls. I get the best. My phone
34:59
Speaker 1: is let bro for real, Like, I actually do like
35:02
Speaker 1: need my phone at all times because you know, you
35:04
Speaker 1: never know it's gonna call the president at anytime. It
35:05
Speaker 1: could be anybody. No, but uh, do you talk to Brock?
35:08
Speaker 1: I mean I saw you in the white would you
35:09
Speaker 1: talk to him? Just on some I don't talk to
35:11
Speaker 1: Brock that I wish. I don't have an email for
35:14
Speaker 1: the president, but I do rock with him. If he
35:17
Speaker 1: wants to give me some advice or something, hit my phone.
35:20
Speaker 1: Now let's talk Drake. You Drake threw subliminals at each other.
35:27
Speaker 1: Is there a question? What's what? What's your relationship with Drake?
35:31
Speaker 1: Um me and Drake to Rapper, I don't know that
35:35
Speaker 1: I like that I don't know that's not a rapper.
35:38
Speaker 1: I don't know abody something to that. I mean, uh yeah,
35:44
Speaker 1: you might as well like start shotting me out and stuff,
35:46
Speaker 1: say my name so people know that you don't know
35:48
Speaker 1: who I am. Uh. Me and Drake are cool, though,
35:50
Speaker 1: like I've only I've only seen Drake a couple of times. Um.
35:55
Speaker 1: The first time we met, we instantly talked about the
35:58
Speaker 1: record and he told me that he wanted to collaborate.
36:00
Speaker 1: There was a record I was working on a long
36:02
Speaker 1: time ago, called Thoughty that I had written for Jake Cole. Um.
36:07
Speaker 1: It's a song about thought. Okay, yeah, it's a song
36:10
Speaker 1: I'll probably never come out. I don't necessarily feel connected
36:13
Speaker 1: to that song like that anymore, but at the time
36:14
Speaker 1: it was a hot record. A lot of records like
36:16
Speaker 1: that artist in hip hop record get passed around for
36:21
Speaker 1: Ja Cole because it sound like you wrote a full
36:23
Speaker 1: record for j Cole. No no no no no no
36:24
Speaker 1: no no. I wrote records. Jay Coole is my is
36:28
Speaker 1: a is a good friend of mine. We worked on
36:29
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff together recently. Yeah yeah, yeah, So
36:33
Speaker 1: like while he was working out for his Hill Drive
36:35
Speaker 1: and afterwards, like he was one of the closest people
36:38
Speaker 1: to the Surf project. He's just always around, you know
36:40
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like uh recording Donnie and Uh. Jeff
36:44
Speaker 1: Giddy from our band actually ended up playing on for
36:46
Speaker 1: his Hills Drive to get a little social experiment shout
36:48
Speaker 1: out on the project. But that record thought was for
36:52
Speaker 1: j Cole Um I had a verse on it. Jay
36:55
Speaker 1: Cole's verse never got hurt anyways. That it got circulated,
36:58
Speaker 1: and that's what happens in hip hop is like if
37:00
Speaker 1: something's dope before it gets released, artists pass it around
37:04
Speaker 1: somebody somehow. Drake got it, heard it, he liked it,
37:08
Speaker 1: and I think he told me like an intern or
37:10
Speaker 1: somebody that he knew had shown him. Like a song
37:14
Speaker 1: I made on ten Day on my first mixtape in
37:17
Speaker 1: twenty twelve where I made like a mention to Drake.
37:20
Speaker 1: I don't even really think it was a disc but
37:21
Speaker 1: we talked about it and we were both like, we
37:23
Speaker 1: didn't really diss each other, we did want to make
37:25
Speaker 1: a song together. We should work. And since then I've
37:29
Speaker 1: only seen Drake maybe I saw him once in Chicago.
37:32
Speaker 1: He showed out of love. I came through and support
37:35
Speaker 1: it and h and I bought that the new album.
37:37
Speaker 1: I loved the new album. So yeah, that's me and
37:40
Speaker 1: Drake's relationship in the Nut Show. We've seen each other twice.
37:42
Speaker 1: You give off a lot of positive energy. Man, you
37:44
Speaker 1: ain't Donnie. Thank you though I didn't know what thinks. Man.
37:46
Speaker 1: I really thought y'all gonna be some drug using not
37:49
Speaker 1: at all idiots, But no, really, I appreciate you too, man,
37:53
Speaker 1: because you know what's crazy is when I was coming
37:54
Speaker 1: down here, everybody was trying to prep me. They were like, yo,
37:56
Speaker 1: Charlemagne's gonna say some crazy stuff to you know what
38:00
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think, don't don't profile me yet.
38:04
Speaker 1: No proud black man for the people, Charlotte. Man. Now
38:08
Speaker 1: can we hear some boss for people who may never
38:10
Speaker 1: have heard you rap? Um? Maybe it's a quick sixteen
38:14
Speaker 1: you can be we can hear YouTube. Um, there's a
38:17
Speaker 1: lot of people that watched this. You know, people watch
38:19
Speaker 1: our videos. I know people watch the Breakfast Club. I
38:21
Speaker 1: love the Breakfast Club. I don't think I'm gonna rap
38:23
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. I think when we get this
38:25
Speaker 1: relationship which we are working out, and then we keep
38:28
Speaker 1: coming back up and then and then maybe's like, oh man,
38:33
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. A great artist. Now rap right now,
38:35
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep looking for the far they tell me
38:37
Speaker 1: he got a fat ass. I'm gonna be like, word,
38:40
Speaker 1: what I understood his reference. Let's not I know what
38:43
Speaker 1: he was saying. I's so homophobic for no reason. But no,
38:48
Speaker 1: you got your trumpet? You want to play a little
38:50
Speaker 1: you know, it's really just it's really just for the
38:53
Speaker 1: safe money sticker. But he really do got his trumpet?
38:58
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I carry it. No, we're real players.
39:01
Speaker 1: We do this. Yeah, we do this for real. Y'all
39:03
Speaker 1: a band like the Roots. Yeah, we're real. We're a
39:05
Speaker 1: real band. Players looking for another hot hip hop band. Yeah,
39:09
Speaker 1: and like in like ten and fifteen years, they could
39:11
Speaker 1: hit us up and want to come to the house
39:13
Speaker 1: social experiment. Okay, we appreciate you guys for joining us. Yeah,
39:17
Speaker 1: we love being here. Thank you so much. As you
39:19
Speaker 1: look great. Envy you the man, Charloe. You're a probably
39:23
Speaker 1: black man. I appreciate you. Give us no bars though, bro,
39:25
Speaker 1: I didn't give you any bars. But we're gonna come back, right,
39:28
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in here. It's the first time,
39:29
Speaker 1: but it's not the last time to your music until
39:31
Speaker 1: you come back. Okay, when when you come? When I
39:33
Speaker 1: come back, Oh yeah, you can come, touch of bars,
39:38
Speaker 1: all types of stuff. It's gonna be a safe environment, positive,
39:40
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nobody like the songs I'm
39:43
Speaker 1: with Chldi Scampio. I think you like Childish Scambio, right, No,
39:47
Speaker 1: you don't know. I mean he's cool, he's all. You
39:50
Speaker 1: don't like his music? Not really? All right, you? Chldish
39:55
Speaker 1: is my man's really cool? You guys great, one of
39:57
Speaker 1: them strongest artists coming out right now. I like the
40:00
Speaker 1: huge fan. I liked the whole child Is gamb Be
40:03
Speaker 1: no thing. Yeah, you know, but I'm not necessarily like
40:07
Speaker 1: a fan of his music. He don't even seem that
40:09
Speaker 1: really committed to music I saw. I'm not saying he
40:11
Speaker 1: might change his name. I think he was just saying
40:14
Speaker 1: that he's got a new chapter opening. I don't really
40:16
Speaker 1: know if that means's gonna make different type of music.
40:17
Speaker 1: But I'm excited for what he's come back. I know
40:19
Speaker 1: that he's dope. I know he's got He was up
40:21
Speaker 1: here defending you. He was well, not defended, but he
40:23
Speaker 1: was saying you should be making just as much money
40:25
Speaker 1: as who was the ge easy yeah or somebody. I mean,
40:28
Speaker 1: me and child is very close. He doesn't know how
40:30
Speaker 1: much money I make, but like way better and childish
40:35
Speaker 1: are both good. But I know what he was trying
40:36
Speaker 1: to say. Glad he made the point because I said
40:38
Speaker 1: to him, chance, look like he's doing way better than you.
40:40
Speaker 1: Easy yeah. I mean we don't know anybody's pocket. I
40:42
Speaker 1: don't knowbody who cares. You watched child is gab being
40:45
Speaker 1: no does it? It's a good guy though, Yeah, great
40:46
Speaker 1: guy in this chance to rapper Donnie Trumpet. We appreciate you, guys.
40:51
Speaker 1: His name Trumpet. I thought he was stereo typing you,
40:55
Speaker 1: don I thought it was Niko and Donnie. I didn't
40:58
Speaker 1: hear Donnie trump and I have lots of me, you
41:00
Speaker 1: know there's lots of me. Well, this guy, good job, guys.
41:03
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Thank you guys,
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Speaker 1: this club. Good morning,