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Magic In The Outback! #191 · The Magic Guys

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  They're guys. They do magic. They are the magic guys.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 191. We're so close to 200. Oh my god.
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  I am one of your magicians today, Josh Norbido.
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  Up above, we've got Doug Kahn and St.
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  John jr the third phd i love
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  that to my other up above we've got nick k i thought
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  you're gonna be like this is doug cat doug cat
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  yeah it's the best one and that's adorable that's adorable and someone's just
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  knocked on my door so my dogs are gonna bark for a second but welcome to the
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  show where we talk about our lives as magicians give advice share shenanigans
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  and all around just have a bit of fun and every now and then we have a guest as well.
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  But Nick, how you been? We haven't really chatted since the last episode.
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  So how are you doing, man?
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  Really good. It's been a busy week for both you and I, which has been great.
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  You've been on the road. Anyone who's been scoping out Josh's socials will see
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  that he's been flying about the country doing some really awesome stuff.
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  Yes, indeed. It has been fun and I have many stories to tell about that escapade.
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  Starting with a flight. Well, the flight will only allow me to have 10 kilos
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  of luggage and you got to do two 40 minute shows. So that's, that's, that'll be fun.
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  But before we get into that, you know, want to recognize everyone that's here
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  and a speak pipe that was sent into us as well.
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  But I love how before the episode starts, cause obviously anyone listening to
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  this post live, everyone's here for the real fun in the comments in the moment.
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  And I love jumping on in the morning and seeing thomas conga leave
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  a pre-message before the pod so even
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  though i don't reply to them tom i see your message about
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  being excited for the episode and i'm sure
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  it's nice to know you're out there caring yeah and you know what because we
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  always joke about how we are the pre-show to kill tony look what's finally arrived
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  in the mail for me the kill tony playing cards Yeah Did you open them yet?
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  I have not opened them yet This is still sealed I'm gonna make a video about
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  it Like we were discussing on the last one And I love how underneath it It literally
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  says Produced by the first card playing card company By Chris Ramsey What a flex for Chris.
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  And it means, you know, they're going to be good too. So I, if anyone else in
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  the chat has these as well, let me know.
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  Cause I feel like I haven't seen magicians using these yet. Cause it's a bit
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  of a niche thing for a magician to be obsessed with Kill Tony.
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  I think you showcase those cards properly online. You'll get a little extra attention for sure.
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  You know, the popularity of Kill Tony is like there now.
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  I think you keep that deck sealed. it's worth a
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  bunch of money in a couple of years you know so it's choices
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  true maybe i'll order some more now the
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  shipping's so expensive to australia it's like more than
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  the decks so it's kind of ridiculous right i've shipped things
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  to australia it's like 30 to send a couple decks of
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  cards over there yeah yeah it's like i may as well
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  fly to the u.s to pick them up yeah yeah
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  i recently made i made a purchase myself which damn
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  near doubled the the product and it was the as you
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  guys know the wonderful sean farquhar has released this
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  documentary called lost in the shuffle and they
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  finally released it like dvd and blu-ray so i ordered the
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  blu-ray and yeah it just basically doubled the
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  the price having that ordered and it's probably going to take like
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  a couple of weeks to get here at least so you know
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  yeah that's the privileges we got
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  to pay for to live in this awesome country it is.
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  True and sometimes i wonder is it not just cheaper for
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  us to physically fly there and buy a bunch of stuff but
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  let me ask you this do you guys find it really funny that and this has
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  been coming up on my social feeds recently and it's probably worth having
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  a joke about especially because we have a foreign correspondent like
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  doug and us two guys who actually live in australia i'm
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  the foreign well i'm the foreign to us
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  you guys were what about let me finish
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  let me finish so you can so that it has better context and
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  what i'm getting at is that there's been a lot of stupid things
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  that have been said on the internet where australia is not real and
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  we're all paid actors and have you seen this type of malarkey doug no no no
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  i can vouch for the foreigners that that is not a prevalent state of mind about australia.
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  We think you're all criminals, but that's all we think, you know. And we are.
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  Criminals over there. We are. And the reason for that is that we were founded by British convicts.
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  Effectively, what happens in the UK was they had a bunch of convicts and they
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  didn't have anywhere to put them. They said, that's it, off to Botany Bay.
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  And so they put them on ships and they sent them off to New South Wales in Botany
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  Bay. And so it was basically a settlement for British convicts.
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  Yeah, and so that's what happened. We were supposed to go into jail.
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  You ended up here and into the realm of hard labor, I assume.
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  Yeah but also nick's a criminal because you know he goes to gigs and he'd be
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  stealing women's hearts what oh you know what i mean when i get on stage i murder,
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  oh damn damn man i remember when i used to be cool like that.
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  I had my day i used to go lost your audio oh now he's back sick,
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  oh we're good oh we've lost him we've lost that's
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  hilarious well while he fixes it we're going to go to a
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  speak pipe this is sent in from nicholas nicholas gay
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  thank you for sending in your speak pipe please go and
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  send us in we love to to play them at the start of
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  the episode so again speak pipe.com forward
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  slash the magic guys or through our
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  website it's on our main page the magic guys show.com all
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  right we're going to play this i have a telegraph in the closet
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  that's still functional from back in the day if you want to come
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  in that way i'm here for you if you can fax in a
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  message to doug to morse code situation josh yeah
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  so doug i'm gonna look at you just let me know if the audio is
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  too high or low because this is coming through the bluetooth on my phone because
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  we're professional and we i i jump on two minutes before we go live when these
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  guys are already waiting for me so let's be clear it wasn't two minutes it's
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  literally 15 seconds that's true Here we go.
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  Hey guys, my question for you today is if you could do a piece of magic that
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  was actually real, like for instance you could actually pull a rabbit out of
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  a hat at any point in time, what trick would it be? Why?
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  Would it be because it's easier to do it, or cheaper, or just because it would
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  look cooler? Thanks, bye.
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  Ooh, okay. Another question. Okay. You can do any trick but for real.
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  And why would you choose that trick?
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  Yeah, I think I have two answers, but I'm curious to see what the other fellas have to say.
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  Doug, what goes off in your mind when you think of that?
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  Not that you don't already do real magic, but if you're choosing another one.
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  The first thing I think is, wow,
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  I wouldn't do any of the tricks I already do if I could do real magic.
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  You know, the first thing that comes to mind, I would love to fly like Superman.
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  Man i don't know if that's the most practical magic trick
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  in the world to just be able to take off producing money
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  at will seems to be like the the the perfect trick for most people at least
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  theoretically be careful what you wish for but how cool would that be yeah how
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  much is that ow there you go good point yeah but that's probably a dangerous
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  power to wield yeah and i'm seeing a,
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  few fellas in the chat put things in like, Tom would like to be able to float anything,
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  levitation, that's kind of like what Doug's saying with flying,
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  but yeah, if you can levitate things, absolutely.
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  Scott says, oh, that's why I'm not allowed to be a Jedi. I think he's trying to say maybe.
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  That's the cousin to the Jedi, which is a different thing, actually.
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  Oh, all right. Scott's not supposed to be talking about the Jet-tie. He knows better.
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  Wow. Gutbuster Mike said the one where you turn ones into hundos. Yeah.
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  And okay. So my two would be,
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  the first one would be a real
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  life thinker drink where you
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  could just have a can of something and they name whatever
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  drink they want out of anything and then
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  they open it and pour it out and it's that drink like just at free
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  will that would be awesome because that that trick gets such a big reaction
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  when i do it as a trick but if i could do it on the fly anytime anywhere like
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  that could literally be a show like you could travel around the world making
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  millions of dollars because you have 10 drinks set up and the audience just
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  names I mean, you go see Steve Cohen,
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  it's his signature piece at that millionaire magic show.
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  Do you do a version of the Think a Drink, Josh?
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  No, no, no. I do just the one can and they've picked a drink out of a hundred
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  different options and it's wrong. And then inside is the right one.
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  And that's still pretty cool. Yeah, it's still very cool.
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  But I would pay, I think I would pay a lot of money.
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  I would pay, fuck, how much would I, I would give all the money I have,
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  I reckon, to properly learn and be able to perform Steve Collins.
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  Like if he was teaching me to do his thing a drink, no question.
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  Cause he, he, even though I haven't, I don't know the physical mechanics,
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  but he still fooled me with it when I went to see him do it in his show.
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  And so it was amazing. The very kind of banger version is Jim Steinmeier.
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  He does it with a milk carton.
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  You get four or five drinks out of it at the end, you tear the milk carton out up. It's a good one.
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  You know, like most things Jim Steinmeier puts his name on.
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  Absolutely. I have seen that available too. And that's definitely,
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  that's attainable at least, you know, if you wanted to do that trick, it's a good version.
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  It's out there. And for sure.
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  Yeah. But if I'm spending, yeah. So if I could just have real powers,
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  it would just literally be, you know, so you could turn a liquid into any other liquid.
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  And then the other one would be, if i could just know whatever thought of word
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  someone picks you could have an entire career just on that and in my in my head
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  it would be like in my head it would be like i can see,
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  the word they've just thought of written in like smoke above their
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  head or something like that's how it reveals itself to me yeah okay it's that
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  because if if you can if you can do that people would line up out i mean we're
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  getting close to that with some of the methods available to modern practitioners
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  you know there's things out there that are like so scary close to.
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  Oh yeah. And Nick, Nick, Nick and I are good friends with Brennan Dooley.
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  He's, he's playing with some dark magic stuff. That's just wild for, um, a lot of words.
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  Yeah. It's just, it's just like Banachek, right?
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  Who does a lot of psychological subtleties, you know, where he's like walking
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  the tightrope of what is almost real mentalism.
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  Yeah what are we what about like the the guys that
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  that cure people you know what i mean that
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  go into those big all the healers yeah like
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  the healers like that would be awesome you know people come forward and
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  they they're all they're all shamans we're all full of it but this
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  notion of like oh i'm going to you know make your
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  leg longer because you've got this situation you can actually just go forward
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  and like i don't know slap someone in the forehead and then their false teeth
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  fall out and it's like you have real real teeth now so what nick's saying is
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  he wants to become jesus because if you do that that is what is going to happen
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  i'm magic come a prophecy.
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  Just like deadpool is my jesus i'll be magic jesus yeah the question i guess
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  i was like just going off the rails with like if i could have real magic powers
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  i guess if i you had to present it,
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  theatrically in an entertaining fashion that changes maybe the mindset of what I might choose,
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  more along the lines of think a drink perhaps but maybe I would pick someone
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  could name any card and I can make it appear anywhere that's a pretty cool one
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  yeah it's worth a great superpower Mr.
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  Movito all the question to that if you could really read minds and hear the
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  thoughts of people around you do you think it would be a privilege or a curse
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  so think about that because imagine.
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  All the things that we as really nice people don't say oh i think about horrible stuff yeah
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  but it's like it's like hey man like how does this look like awful but you go
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  looks great yeah got a good time everyone had the power i think it'd be cool
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  because maybe you could manage it somehow,
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  but if like you were the only one with that power, oh, no, thank you.
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  I think it would also freak you out because like, you know, when you look at
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  someone and you never, it's just this little weird part in your brain that goes
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  like, you know, if you front kick them out into that traffic,
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  they'd be dead and get hit by that bus, you know?
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  And then the, the, the logical part in your body just moves along and thinks
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  of other stuff, but a psychopath might act on it.
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  Right. But if you can read minds and you hear someone say.
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  In your mind. Oh, what if I just push that guy out into the traffic?
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  Well, now you're paranoid and you think he's going to do it when he's just,
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  you know, and then you're hearing everyone like over judge and over say stuff
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  that obviously then they filter out by the end and don't do or say,
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  I reckon you'd lose your mind.
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  Yeah. Humans are horrible. You can't, no one could put up with that all day.
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  Yeah. Especially if you're a female, imagine being a female and
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  walking around and having to hear everything a guy's thinking about
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  you there was a sheesh there
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  was a funny movie with what was his name the one from
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  lethal weapon mel gibson and it was
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  called like what women want and he was able to hear all the thoughts of women and
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  there was there's a really funny scene in that movie where
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  he's got like two receptionists and then he he walks
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  into the office and closes the door and the two of them are just sitting
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  there and he hears nothing it's just
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  blank mind he's waiting for
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  this and nothing comes out and
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  it's like wow that is kind of funny and
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  and here's that's good that's funny here's another follow-up question
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  what do you think the thoughts would be when
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  you approach a table and start performing so let me okay let's let's be a little
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  more specific you're at a table you're performing away everyone's having a great
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  time the girls are loving it and there's going to be the fellows that are like
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  thinking what now that's pretty I'm going to make them look stupid.
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  I reckon they'd be thinking stuff like, how do I sneak a fart out without them noticing?
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  Or like, I need another refill on my drink. I wonder if this guy's a waiter.
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  I think it's a little bit more...
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  Subtle than probably what we're thinking but also if you're
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  reading real minds you're not doing table magic anymore
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  you're like assisting presidents
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  and stuff at like diplomatic meetings and stuff
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  let's also offer general advice here if you
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  are table hopping take care with those couple situations
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  if you're coming up to a couple it's a man and a woman you got
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  to treat that with care and really generally skip
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  that table but if you're going to be there you better
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  make the guy look good right yeah a hundred percent let's
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  just reiterate exactly what that means when you're at so if you're at a table and
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  a couple are hitting it off you can't afford to
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  walk away in a roving setting and leave them be but if
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  they're in a situation where they're just on their phones and they're not engaging
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  and you want to sort of break that and make a connection do whatever you can
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  to lift your fella up because he hasn't gotten any game and he needs a little
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  bit of love but in the same breath and i've performed this many a times where
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  i've tried to celebrate the gentleman,
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  to make him look like he's got a skill set and that he's fun,
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  but he's just hell bent on ruining me to make himself look good in front of her.
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  He's done it to himself. Can we agree on that?
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  Totally. Yeah. I mean, you can only do so much, right?
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  And if there's any material you are looking for to perform in that situation,
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  I would recommend John Armstrong's first Penguin Lecture.
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  It's a routine i still jump to and it literally is
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  basically a test to see if that couple can find
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  each other's cards and it goes back and forth
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  and it becomes about them so it's like shuffle the deck
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  okay you're gonna peek at a card now i'm gonna fend the deck out for you and
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  you're gonna you know pick one oh let's see if you
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  got it boom you nailed it wow okay let's try it the other way
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  let's now you gotta see if you can read her mind this is not this is all on
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  you guys boom and then it's like the card that they name ends up in your wallet
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  and it's like you guys are amazing this is meant to be and that's a really fun
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  way to leave it so yeah John Armstrong's first penguin live lecture he
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  performs and teaches it there you know what i do sometimes as well like i'll
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  do a coins across thing where typically like i'll try to stick the coin back
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  in their hand but rather than having.
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  One person hold their hand i try to put like the
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  couples to put one hand on top one hand on bottom so they're actually doing this now
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  together and like oh
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  they're holding hands and even though it's a subtlety it's like well you've held
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  hands already it might be nice to like hold hands while you walk back
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  to the car yeah and even if you're gonna do
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  double cross if you're gonna do double cross do it
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  where they hold hands and you draw the x
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  on like the guy's hand over here and it travels through
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  them to the world on the other side with with her
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  hand closed at least do it like that you know again yeah
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  so you can take most things and put it into about them
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  situation i i just want to bring up this comment because this
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  is perfect caden says i feel like magic would be
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  ruined if spectators could read the magician's mind wouldn't
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  that be funny an interesting hurdle to overcome now i'm gonna throw this back
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  to nick what yeah would they hear if they heard the magician thinking what would
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  they hear the magician thinking do you want to know what goes on in my mind
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  while i'm performing what they'd be hearing okay,
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  hey.
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  On repeat,
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  uh yeah yeah yeah it gets
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  to the point and as it should that you know your
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  routine so well that you're not thinking about the routines you're
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  thinking about all the other things that are happening while you're just
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  breathing i agree have you guys
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  been in flow where you're literally like not even
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  at the wheel you're just in cruise control watching some
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  stuff unfold and the jokes are coming out and you're barely thinking
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  about it it's just you know like i mean we we know
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  what it's like to be in flow right oh well too
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  well i love you can be too much in flow if you're like too much flowing and
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  not really in the moment like you're not using that extra time and energy to
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  adapt and improve the situation to the best of your ability yeah now it's like
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  the wrong direction right i'm
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  gonna flash it back when i used to pitch magic in the mall i did the same,
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  pitch six hours a day, right? 15 minutes, 15 minutes, 15 minutes.
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  Well, by three hours in, I'm checking out the chicks in the mall.
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  I'm not thinking about Rocky Raccoon. I'm looking at the right,
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  you know, checking out the shoes, wondering who's going to buy the magic,
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  you know, but I'm not thinking about the presentation or if they care what I'm
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  saying, you know, that's not good.
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  Perfect. I try to be a sponge and just absorb when I'm performing.
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  And one thing you could apply straight away is
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  ask someone if you're in a group ask someone
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  to name a card or just say all right someone name
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  a card and then you pick one person but you
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  listen to what this person said as well as a callback later and you can make
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  it seem like you've just done this by pure magic so they say queen of hearts
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  but you hear this this person say seven of diamonds you go all right great do
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  a trick with that in the meantime you keep an eye on the seven of diamonds,
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  find the queen of hearts do a change put it sit it on the table and go alright
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  someone else name a card oh wait what card did you want.
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  Seven of diamonds. Okay. Bang. It's already on the table. You have a miracle.
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  The amount of times the top change is like created pure miracles for me is pure
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  beauty. And it's just by listening.
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  I'll often do it with the same spectator where I'll have them name a card and
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  I'll do nomonicosis, but I'll say, ah, damn.
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  And what would your second choice would be? And I let them half say it.
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  And then I stopped them and I go back to the first card, but I know what that second card was.
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  So when i ask them to name another card they say that second one that i already have ready.
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  And it's just so much fun the power of listening who
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  you know it's a very advanced question
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  very very advanced technique yeah it's the it's the good stuff but it only works
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  if you know you know your routine in and out and you're relaxed and you can
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  concentrate on that bandwidth you know all right we've got another speak pipe
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  this one this one is from jimmy farrester it looks a bit long,
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  so better be good, Jimmy.
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  Let's play this one and Jimmy Farrister. Hey guys, it's just Jimmy.
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  I was sitting here thinking about my muse and of course it's my wife.
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  We've been together 14 years and that's, I mean, I've been with her for a reason.
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  She gets my jokes she tests my
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  jokes out she tells me what jokes
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  to put into my magic and and even
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  though she does guide a little bit but she
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  is the inspiration so i do want you i i wonder what your guys's muse are i mean
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  doug and josh of course you have the easy answer but why i mean what do they
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  do and how can others find that i don't know and nick i mean do you have a muse.
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  And i mean is it yourself maybe is it your your your past experience in a band maybe,
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  but seriously i mean not in there there's got to be something that pushes you
• 23:00
  and drives you and motivate you?
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  And I'm just curious, and I would love to hear those answers. Thanks, guys.
• 23:08
  Man good question good question i just what well do you want to just for the
• 23:14
  viewers summarize what the question is well mainly for me because there was
• 23:17
  a lot going on there and right so,
• 23:20
  creatively we we put a lot of stuff out there and we create right and typically
• 23:25
  in a creative sense i guess not not that it's always been applied to magic in
• 23:30
  itself but there is this notion that we have a muse and someone who inspires
• 23:33
  us to create in my early days was my good friend jesse mark Whenever I had conversations
• 23:38
  with him or he was just around me,
• 23:40
  I would produce so much cool stuff.
• 23:43
  It was great. I couldn't – almost at a sankey level, I could create faster than
• 23:48
  I could actually build a gimmick.
• 23:51
  But it's really interesting, the question, who is your muse?
• 23:56
  Because I have to clarify, is a muse someone that you create for?
• 24:01
  Or is a muse someone who inspires?
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  Question to the group. Doug?
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  I love that supports what I do. You know,
• 24:12
  I wake up every day and think how lucky am I to have this human being in my
• 24:16
  world and live with my best friend and, you know, to have this energy,
• 24:20
  you know, around me that even if like, maybe I'm not feeling like pulling myself
• 24:25
  up for the day that, you know,
• 24:27
  I need to do that for this beautiful person in my world.
• 24:30
  So I think this is probably the vibe Jimmy's feeling.
• 24:34
  I've met this couple, Jimmy and his wife. I know how he loves her and she loves
• 24:39
  him. So I know that's the vibe he's talking about mostly.
• 24:43
  You could also love your cat that way. You know, if you're really into your
• 24:47
  cats, maybe not quite as much.
• 24:51
  Yeah, true. Yeah.
• 24:53
  So a muse is defined as a person who,
• 24:58
  or force, who is the source of inspiration for a creative artist.
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  So that's really interesting because I feel that each routine is,
• 25:09
  if we're going to equate it to this, is your art piece, and there's different inspirations.
• 25:14
  Like I'm doing a PK Tetris type thing that's actually inspired by my father.
• 25:18
  Because my dad to me is like, where I, the notion is that like pieces of me
• 25:26
  are pieces of them, pieces of my parents.
• 25:28
  You know what I mean? It's silly to believe that like the good in you is the
• 25:31
  good of your folks. The bad traits can also be like, come from that sort of realm.
• 25:36
  And, you know, I like to joke around. I like to have fun. My dad is a prankster.
• 25:41
  That's where it comes from. My dad's the type of guy that will tap you on the
• 25:44
  shoulder. When you go to look, no one's there.
• 25:46
  And I think that notion of a PK touch phrased in that way is kind of cool.
• 25:51
  So my father's amused for the routine. So I guess the answer for myself is it
• 25:57
  depends on which piece of artwork I'm doing.
• 26:01
  Sometimes it's for the audience. Sometimes it's for yourself.
• 26:05
  I certainly create pieces for myself because I find myself more than not creating
• 26:11
  pieces of magic that I want to see.
• 26:13
  Like I perform the type of magic I want to see.
• 26:18
  So that's a multifaceted answer But what do you guys think? Yeah, I get it.
• 26:26
  I think, you know, like the art itself is a muse for me.
• 26:31
  Can it be that? Like, you know, just the magic itself drives me unbelievably
• 26:37
  and has for 40 years. You know, I wake up and eat, drink and sleep.
• 26:42
  I've been able to do that daily, you know, for so long.
• 26:46
  Can the art itself be the muse?
• 26:49
  Magic is my muse. That's a t-shirt right there. You know, there's no,
• 26:54
  there's no like ulterior motive except passion for the art, right?
• 26:59
  Hmm. Yeah.
• 27:04
  It's a discussion. I don't know. Experts just sitting there going, gosh, yeah.
• 27:10
  Yeah. It's a tough one. It's not a definitive answer. There's not a person I'm
• 27:15
  like, you know, I love my fiance, but I'm not sitting here going,
• 27:20
  all right, I have to create for her.
• 27:21
  You know i need to make her proud or whatnot she's
• 27:24
  going to support whatever i do so i know like you know she's got
• 27:27
  my back but definitely yeah i'm inspired
• 27:30
  by the art i see around me the other performers everything stand-up
• 27:34
  comedy you know kill tony i love watching that and i go i love how they can
• 27:38
  riff off this in this kind of like tonality i'm like oh yeah i want to see what
• 27:43
  i can do in that way right and definitely definitely for myself and you know
• 27:47
  i like to create work that i think would be fun and i haven't seen anyone do and then i,
• 27:53
  do enjoy watching my own work back i don't know if that's if that's egotistical
• 27:58
  but like i can appreciate it is but it's also reasonable because,
• 28:03
  your shit's fire josh norbedo i'd watch my shit too if i was you yeah well you
• 28:08
  know what maybe doug is my muse then i'm not joking everyone knows everyone
• 28:13
  around everyone here knows that.
• 28:16
  You got fire stuff. Yeah. Could I, could I say something that that's,
• 28:21
  that's true to what Doug's, if I may. And that was like, magic is my muse.
• 28:24
  If you do love magic as a whole, I think you care about it enough to want to power through it.
• 28:30
  So one of the examples is I'll give you a couple of examples.
• 28:33
  Delgadier was doing a chat at magic live and he was sort of disheartened by
• 28:38
  an experience that he was having going to a magic club.
• 28:41
  And he was basically engaged in conversation and, you know, trying to share
• 28:46
  a couple of thoughts and somebody was trying to eavesdrop and sort of steal
• 28:48
  from what he was taking away.
• 28:50
  He was like, I just want to know the secrets or tell me, tell me, tell me.
• 28:53
  And he basically turned to this person and said, you are killing the thing I love.
• 28:58
  And so when people's attitudes sort of kill what you love, and if you love magic
• 29:01
  as a whole, it's kind of important.
• 29:03
  And it made me reflect on a moment when I decided I'm going to start doing magic.
• 29:08
  And here's the second part of the story.
• 29:11
  I was getting into magic and I hadn't
• 29:14
  seen live magic yet and so i had gone and
• 29:17
  and it consumed so much stuff on youtube and in
• 29:20
  the internet and you know illusionist etc
• 29:23
  way way back in the day many many many years ago now
• 29:26
  and then i decided to go to the melbourne magic
• 29:28
  festival for the first time and i'm watching these performers do their thing
• 29:32
  and it was dismal it was dismal like it was i'm like watching this amazing magic
• 29:39
  on the internet and then seeing stuff performed and there was this performer
• 29:42
  who did this bit and he had a deck and he shuffled it with the bottom facing towards the audience.
• 29:48
  And he goes, if I mix the cards and he peeled off four cards and you can see
• 29:51
  the cards counting off ace, two, three, four.
• 29:55
  And then he does this, right? And then he goes, but if I was to reverse the
• 29:59
  process and then he counts them off the top and spread, you now see the deck
• 30:04
  is in brand new deck order and everyone clapped and cheered.
• 30:09
  And I looked around the audience and I went,
• 30:12
  I thought profanities. I thought, are you serious?
• 30:17
  You serious? This is the best that Australia has to offer.
• 30:22
  And I was really disheartened by that. And then Tim Ellis got up. He blew my mind.
• 30:28
  That's what Australian magic is. Fantastic.
• 30:31
  Simon Coronel got up. That's what Aussie magic was. That blew my mind.
• 30:36
  Boris Wilde, a French magician, FISM winner.
• 30:39
  He performed his piece. That blew my mind.
• 30:42
  And I went, three of the 20 in this gala were fire and the rest were porridge.
• 30:50
  And so I went, I'm going to try and do something about this because I think
• 30:55
  I could do something that represents this.
• 30:57
  The year after I did my first show and I've been trying to propagate magic ever
• 31:01
  since and I've been mentoring kids ever since.
• 31:04
  And I've been going to magic sessions that we've had conversations about with
• 31:08
  clubs where it's like, I don't get anything out of it.
• 31:10
  It's a waste of time. And it's like, well, it's not about me getting anything
• 31:12
  out of it. It's about me trying to help the next generation and the next group
• 31:16
  of kids, the next group that could be extremely egotistical and super douchebaggy.
• 31:21
  And you want to sort of go, hey, kids, check yourself before you wreck yourself, you know?
• 31:25
  And I think that's what's important. If you do love magic, like Doug does,
• 31:30
  and it is why I think that what you're doing with the learned sleight of hand,
• 31:37
  it's all being done the right way.
• 31:39
  And it's all been done with the right intention to propagate magic forward.
• 31:44
  Preach. I love it. Try and do it right with respect. Thank you for that.
• 31:47
  I was thinking this like magic at its base is a craft, right?
• 31:52
  So the craft can be your muse and through that express your art,
• 31:57
  which is where you get to share original creations, a unique point of view,
• 32:02
  change people's thought processes.
• 32:05
  That's where the art happens. so maybe this is
• 32:08
  how we have magic as a craft and
• 32:11
  a muse to make art which can still be magic but
• 32:14
  it's a performance art where we really have the art in magic yeah and if and
• 32:20
  if if you really need some uh inspiration for making content because that can
• 32:25
  be some of that the heart one of the harder things to do is to is to drive forward
• 32:30
  and and make yourself make content when you already have a busy life.
• 32:33
  Just watch some 2018 Gary Vee. That's what really fired up my engine was.
• 32:40
  I blame him for all the content you see me putting out.
• 32:43
  In the best way, I blame him because he really drove into my head that unless
• 32:48
  you're online in 2024, your business doesn't exist. You can be as good as you
• 32:53
  want, but you're invisible.
• 32:57
  I also would put a good amount of,
• 33:02
  credit to him as well i have i have more than one friend that's an amazing magician
• 33:09
  and a little bit struggling right now because the social media presence is not
• 33:13
  as strong as it needs to be you know it's expected in this day and age if you
• 33:17
  aren't doing that yeah it's certainly something,
• 33:21
  professional should be considering a little tip i i've just started doing too
• 33:25
  is if you go to an event and you happen to make a little montage of the event
• 33:29
  which i've started doing using the meta Ray-Bans because I can get these point of view reactions.
• 33:35
  I've been putting up a reel and then collaborating that reel with the event.
• 33:41
  And I just did it over the weekend. When I was away in the Outback,
• 33:44
  I made this just this little 10 second thing and collaborated with them.
• 33:50
  And they were so wrapped. They were like, oh, thank you. This is great.
• 33:53
  And now their whole audience is seeing my work as a way to get myself out there
• 33:58
  from just putting up this 10 second thing.
• 34:01
  When we went to Singapore for the
• 34:04
  formula one Sandy and I filmed this
• 34:07
  little montage of her in the hotel
• 34:10
  we were staying at because we have this idea that
• 34:13
  in the future we could send that as an as an example
• 34:16
  and be like hey you know if you want to let us stay here
• 34:19
  for free we'll give you this piece of content cheapest video
• 34:22
  you've ever paid for that value for
• 34:25
  the client it really is huge i couldn't
• 34:29
  agree more and and that hotel has since reached out and
• 34:33
  said could we post that as our own piece of content on our hotel this is a big
• 34:39
  hotel in in singapore and the ridges hotel where we have our show i went and
• 34:45
  filmed one of the bartenders making an espresso martini and i turned it into
• 34:49
  this really nice slow-mo like,
• 34:53
  Wonderful to watch drink being made and collaborated with them on our Theatre of Magic page.
• 35:00
  They collaborated and now, you know, our video sits on the Ridges Hotels bars Instagram.
• 35:06
  So just a little tip I threw out there. This collaboration invite thing is a really powerful tool.
• 35:11
  And what you do is you invite them to collaborate. Then you send a message to
• 35:16
  them, which will show up underneath it saying, hey, absolutely no pressure at all to accept this.
• 35:21
  I just like to give you the opportunity to in case this
• 35:24
  video goes viral haha and then that's it and then it's
• 35:27
  not like they think they have to anyway that was a tangent
• 35:30
  that i just you know i think that might be helpful to someone have you considered offering
• 35:33
  that as a professional service you know something you
• 35:36
  put in a contract you know to provide clients is
• 35:38
  that worth doing i reckon when i have a when i
• 35:41
  have a bigger following i think it's something that could be a value
• 35:44
  add for sure i don't know that it is seen as
• 35:47
  much of an ad at the but creating the content is extremely
• 35:51
  valuable especially if you're good at it you know
• 35:54
  and you are like you can really make about that
• 35:57
  expresso video looks great right yeah yeah
• 36:00
  100 so that's a that's a huge value
• 36:03
  to any company that you know wants to
• 36:06
  be relevant especially if you're look offering to
• 36:09
  share it and collaborate that's multi multi views
• 36:12
  for them it's a win-win it's a very true how well will this show up this is
• 36:17
  it only goes for like 10 seconds but you'll get the idea and this is just i
• 36:21
  made this in like you know five minutes i just grabbed the clips that i'd shot
• 36:26
  and just put this together there's like a nice little music track behind it.
• 36:31
  And like yeah i want that you can see how
• 36:34
  that looks exactly exactly so i
• 36:39
  would encourage that so so you know a perfect perfect example
• 36:42
  you know for nick's company you know you could be performing at
• 36:44
  holy moly get a whole bunch of reactions collaborate with
• 36:48
  them boom now they've got content that's fire
• 36:51
  and now you're being promoted through their
• 36:53
  socials so it's i won't even voice how
• 36:56
  difficult that is on this forum but yeah but
• 37:03
  yes i totally agree with you and that's the thing leverage
• 37:06
  is it's really good advice being able to leverage anything you know it could
• 37:10
  be something as simple as like oh we're looking for a discount on a on a venue
• 37:13
  on a whatever and you go like do you have videographers and photographers for
• 37:16
  the evening and they go yes great you give me all that footage i'll do you a
• 37:19
  deal then all of a sudden they go like sick and you might have dropped a couple
• 37:23
  hundred bucks, but in return,
• 37:24
  you weren't required to get your own person and you get all their stuff.
• 37:29
  There's a lot of ways around this if you want to have that value add.
• 37:34
  Yeah. And the classic secret for if you want to have a videographer come and
• 37:38
  film your roving for your promo reels, you just say to the client,
• 37:43
  you don't ask them if you can bring someone in to film your promo.
• 37:46
  You say, hey, I'm building my show reel at the moment.
• 37:49
  If I pay to have a videographer come and capture me if you're
• 37:52
  okay with that i'm going to give you a copy of it as well and they'll
• 37:55
  be like hell yeah free content yes please
• 37:58
  yeah exactly that's it
• 38:02
  all right so can i tell you about this adventure yeah if anyone has actually
• 38:09
  done content seeing your socials on this amazing outback adventure should we
• 38:14
  jump into this give story realm absolutely Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 38:19
  So the context is I'm called up. This event was originally going to,
• 38:23
  every year they hire a standup comedian, usually a female standup comedian.
• 38:28
  It's a three-day event out in the country. All the rural business owners that
• 38:33
  are females go there and they have this big ladies weekend, let their hair down.
• 38:38
  You know, enjoy luxuries they wouldn't normally get to have out in the country.
• 38:42
  Like they have hairstylists come and masseuses and they just get pampered.
• 38:46
  And then there's speakers and they party at night.
• 38:49
  And it's a real, it's a really great thing they do and had a standup comedian booked in.
• 38:54
  They pulled out for whatever reason, a few weeks before it.
• 38:57
  So they found me because I'd done another rural country town event a little
• 39:02
  while back and they're like, yep, we want magic. They'd never had magic before.
• 39:06
  So they don't really know like what I might need or whatever.
• 39:09
  And I tried to communicate as much as I could.
• 39:12
  They're like, great. How much luggage do you need? And I'm like,
• 39:15
  oh, no more than a standard 23 kilo, just one luggage. And they're like, okay, great.
• 39:19
  Because yeah, this private jet company sponsors us.
• 39:23
  In which they give the plane and fly over the speakers from Brisbane to here
• 39:28
  for free. But you're only allowed six kilos.
• 39:31
  I'm like, holy crap. That's quite a different from 23.
• 39:35
  They were so gracious to bump it up a little bit to 10 kilos.
• 39:39
  Wow. So thoughtful. But I'm like, I got to do.
• 39:43
  And so they want me to both open and close their weekend. So I'm doing a show
• 39:48
  on the first welcome cocktail night. and the finale at lunchtime before everyone departs.
• 39:54
  So I need, I need, you know, basically 80 minutes worth of show and my normal
• 40:01
  clothes and, and, and toiletries and all that stuff to fit into 10 kilos.
• 40:06
  And at, at, in the beginning I was like, that's wild.
• 40:09
  So I started looking at how, how far is it to drive to this place?
• 40:13
  And then that quickly became irrelevant because it was
• 40:15
  like 12 hours or something like that each way in out
• 40:18
  into the dirt desert where like you just that's not
• 40:22
  a good idea so then i really had to
• 40:25
  you know use the notion of pack small play big
• 40:27
  like the thing we all talk about like haha this pack
• 40:31
  small plays big i was literally like all right what in my room
• 40:33
  here is small and will seem big and
• 40:37
  so i can tell you i i i packed all of
• 40:40
  my magic into the bag that i think i could get away
• 40:43
  with and i was very surprised i was able
• 40:46
  to get it down including the bag with just the
• 40:48
  magic i was able to get it down to four kilos whoa
• 40:52
  which allowed me six kilos for clothes
• 40:56
  and stuff to bring and so that consisted of
• 40:59
  three rubik's cubes all just standard cubes
• 41:02
  three decks of cards a clipboard
• 41:06
  with paper on it to to reveal stuff a
• 41:09
  magazine a balloon a twisting balloon
• 41:12
  and balloon pump flash paper which
• 41:15
  doesn't weigh anything a silk splash bottle
• 41:17
  gimmick and i want
• 41:21
  to say some some paper bags and like a ball of
• 41:24
  yarn to do a bill into ball of yarn and that's pretty
• 41:27
  much it for stage props i did a lot of
• 41:30
  stuff that didn't need props like pk touch
• 41:33
  and you know and just banter and stuff and then.
• 41:35
  I had my stuff for close-up but essentially it's that and when you
• 41:38
  look at that on a table it's like this much stuff oh
• 41:42
  and the thing you should never leave home without when you're going
• 41:44
  to do a show is one of these microphone holders these
• 41:48
  will save your life it goes
• 41:51
  around your neck and it's very sturdy and the microphone clips in right here
• 41:56
  i can do it probably with my lint roller and it sits right there while you're
• 42:00
  doing the show and you can move it around for the audience to you know If your
• 42:05
  spectator is answering a question, you can turn it that way. You can turn it this way.
• 42:09
  And look, I can do all my magic, and this is not hanging down like a lanyard
• 42:13
  down here. This is like properly in your face like it should be.
• 42:16
  I think these are about a hundred dollars or something. These are the Dave Lord
• 42:20
  microphone holders. I believe he sells them on his website.
• 42:24
  That's a magician. Dave Lord. Yeah. Brisbane magician.
• 42:28
  He's created a couple of things. And, but this is one that's just like every,
• 42:32
  every corporate magician in Australia knows to have one of these.
• 42:35
  And so this I took with me because obviously I couldn't take my own headset
• 42:40
  mic and I just didn't want to put the pressure on them for them to know to have
• 42:45
  a headset mic out in the app back just for me. So that was amazing.
• 42:49
  And then the other thing that helped me was I, instead of taking my whole unit,
• 42:54
  my whole audio eight unit to control my music, I downloaded the go button app,
• 42:59
  which is the sound queuing app that a lot of us use for our songs.
• 43:03
  And I downloaded it onto my personal iPhone and queued up all the music.
• 43:07
  And then I just had them plug this into their, they
• 43:10
  had a little dongle that would plug this straight into their system sat on the
• 43:14
  table and i just made them basic cues that i could just tap the phone to fade
• 43:18
  in and fade out so that saved me having to take that like one kilo little unit
• 43:23
  okay so but this is the this is where stuff gets a bit crazy because on the first day.
• 43:28
  I'm kind of like i get my mind blown because i
• 43:31
  think i'm going into this well manicured like
• 43:34
  big marquee tent where everyone will be sitting down
• 43:37
  and like watching this show and you
• 43:40
  know be fun in the outback haha but i'm going
• 43:43
  to show you a video of um the conditions when i
• 43:46
  rocked up for a sound check so this is
• 43:48
  my this is my stage and this is my audience
• 43:51
  area just for the listener just so
• 43:55
  you know what you're looking at it is not even undercover it is maybe a foot
• 44:00
  off the ground it is maybe large enough to fit a small vehicle on as far as
• 44:08
  dimensions go it's got a glorious pink backdrop that comes to what your waist height. Yeah.
• 44:14
  And, and, oh, this is my green room. This is right next to the stage. Wow.
• 44:19
  And, but look at the, especially look at the wind that, that's going past. Oh,
• 44:26
  that's going past this table. It's like. Oh, no, that's the worst. You know what I mean?
• 44:32
  Wind is phenomenal. You wouldn't be able to do a single car trick.
• 44:35
  You would possibly struggle even keeping ball routine together.
• 44:40
  Like that is really something.
• 44:42
  And then the other problem is, so this is what happened at nighttime.
• 44:47
  And this is with like the light. This is with the camera lighting up the stage.
• 44:52
  It was actually like pitch black. Like they lit up the back so that their little,
• 44:58
  their wonderful backdrop would be seen.
• 45:01
  But it meant that everyone on stage was invisible. They were just silhouettes.
• 45:07
  So I talked to the lighting guy and he's like, yeah, I'm going to see if I can
• 45:11
  get these two side lights so that the audience like should be able to see you.
• 45:15
  And I'm like, should, what do you mean? They should be able to see me.
• 45:19
  I got to stand up there for 40 minutes.
• 45:21
  Not to mention like it was arranged that everyone would be seated.
• 45:24
  I knew it was a cocktail party, but they said everyone would be seated for the show.
• 45:28
  And they're like, oh, look, we've had a long day setting up.
• 45:31
  And I totally appreciate this and understand where they're coming from.
• 45:33
  But they're like, we've had a long day standing up, setting up.
• 45:36
  It would be a lot of effort for our guys that have been setting up every day to now set up 200 seats.
• 45:43
  So everyone's probably just going to be standing. There'll be a couple of people sitting.
• 45:46
  And I just had to fight on behalf of the audience that's going to be having
• 45:51
  to sit and watch this. I'm like, on behalf of everyone here,
• 45:54
  like I'm only what I'm about to say is only because I want them to have the best show possible.
• 45:59
  Like you can't expect people to stand up for 40 minutes and give all their attention
• 46:04
  to me, especially not when they can hardly see me and we're outside this dust blowing around.
• 46:09
  Like you are, you know, we're kind of asking for a disaster here,
• 46:12
  especially when you paid me good money and flown me here on a private plane.
• 46:16
  It will just seem like a joke is like, you know, so now I'm like,
• 46:20
  Oh my God, this is going to be horrible, but I just have to eat my,
• 46:24
  any, any, it's going to eat my ego completely.
• 46:28
  And just, you know, let something happen. So I work with the guys.
• 46:31
  I'm like, all right, let's take these two lights that you've used to,
• 46:34
  to put on the backdrop, just rip them out.
• 46:37
  Let's put them on top of the speakers far enough away that they're angled in.
• 46:41
  So at least you can see me. It kind of look like a horror movie it kind of looked
• 46:45
  like a horror movie where you have a light underneath you and it's like haha
• 46:48
  but it was like that i was pretty blinded i couldn't see the audience because
• 46:52
  the lights were so close to me but at least like now they're seeing something this type of thing.
• 46:57
  I had to talk exactly that's that's pretty much what my show consisted of on the first night.
• 47:03
  And i had to talk to everyone personally i made.
• 47:06
  A point to it wasn't agreed to like it wasn't in
• 47:09
  my contract to do roving magic but i knew i had to to get
• 47:11
  everyone on my side and to be willing to to move around a
• 47:14
  bit so i'm doing as much roving as i can the hours
• 47:18
  beforehand so that i could be like
• 47:21
  hey guys feel free to grab a chair like i'm going to do the show i would
• 47:24
  love for you to you know this is the area where you're going to be
• 47:27
  able to see the show because you're on the slides and the lighting's not going to.
• 47:29
  Let you really see what i'm doing so because of that
• 47:32
  thank god everyone grabbed a chair and they all sat down like
• 47:35
  in front of the stage like you know you would normally do
• 47:38
  so the people did the setup then more or
• 47:42
  less people grab chairs and had a seat to watch your
• 47:45
  show that's right and just yeah
• 47:49
  i just had to strip it back and be like all right i know the
• 47:52
  basics here where if you grab one
• 47:55
  of their own bring them on stage they will
• 47:57
  watch one of their own be involved in
• 48:00
  the magic so almost every routine had one
• 48:03
  person from them come on stage make it
• 48:06
  about them and somehow we got
• 48:09
  through this 40 minutes i don't know how but
• 48:13
  some way it worked in the end despite all
• 48:17
  the wind despite being outdoors despite there being like flies you know flying
• 48:21
  around in your head while you're doing the show and everyone thankfully gave
• 48:24
  me their attention and we got through it some people were like i couldn't really
• 48:28
  see too much but i'm like you know i understand it was it was nighttime out
• 48:31
  in the country and then it was night and day The last show I got to do was in daylight.
• 48:37
  Proper stage, sound, all that kind of stuff. And we rocked it.
• 48:41
  And that was so great to close because there was no way. I was planning to do
• 48:46
  like my backflip routine, all this stuff on the opening night.
• 48:49
  No chance. No chance at night when I can't even see my hands from the spotlights,
• 48:54
  let alone do a backflip. Right.
• 48:58
  Yeah. I'm trying to think what are the takeaways here? So the takeaways are
• 49:01
  just always have one of these with you.
• 49:04
  It's just going to, even if they say they've got a headset, Mike,
• 49:06
  even if you have your own still take this because there's times where they can't plug you as in.
• 49:11
  They have hold on one second. Cause I want to point people towards the gem crack here.
• 49:16
  This is one of the props that I've had recommended throughout my life.
• 49:20
  The gem crack you can get for 20 bucks. it's maybe
• 49:23
  not as fancy pants as what you're you're showing but i
• 49:27
  wanted to put that out there for people that work with a
• 49:29
  mic gimcrack yeah and at
• 49:33
  a pinch you can make a holder out of a coat
• 49:36
  hanger a metal coat hanger or rope yeah
• 49:39
  rope too for sure at a coat hanger you can because
• 49:42
  it's already connected you can put it around your neck and
• 49:45
  sort of really mangle it up to to have a hole there
• 49:48
  to hold the microphone like if you really had to yes i
• 49:51
  have something is flexible though right you can angle
• 49:54
  it away and towards the spectator and like that's
• 49:57
  yeah this one has like an actual clip so
• 50:00
  it'll hold on to the microphone no
• 50:04
  matter what size it is and yeah it will angle so
• 50:08
  it can face you and it can face the audience and
• 50:11
  also like like if you had to cough or something you
• 50:14
  could just turn it away or if you had to the the
• 50:18
  reason dave lord made this specific design is
• 50:21
  because he does a linking rings routine where he has to like
• 50:24
  like cue the spectator to do something without the audience hearing and so he
• 50:28
  can just turn that away from him and say what he needs to say come back and
• 50:33
  and you're kind of good to go and it's easy to get off whereas like the lanyard
• 50:36
  ones it's sort of right in it and you've got to kind of jingle it out and stuff
• 50:41
  Or is this just unclip straight away?
• 50:43
  It's really like proper, like you'll use it. I've had this for years and it's brilliant.
• 50:48
  The other thing is, yeah, if you can, like...
• 50:52
  Have your music queued up on your own phone so
• 50:55
  at least it's with you all the time at a pinch you could
• 50:57
  plug that in or bluetooth it to their speaker and you could run music and
• 51:01
  what would you use for that josh you just using like apple music albums
• 51:04
  or you have a yeah so if you
• 51:07
  use the app the go button app it
• 51:10
  links to yeah your itunes album so you
• 51:13
  can you would go on itunes and you would download the song
• 51:16
  like click download so it's on your phone yeah and then it
• 51:19
  shows up when you're searching for music or you can download music onto your
• 51:24
  phone and you save it to the go button folder and it can recognize it that way
• 51:29
  because i have some custom songs and i keep them in a google drive so on the
• 51:34
  fly when i was there i downloaded it onto my phone add it to go button.
• 51:38
  So go button is an app that just does like play stop real simple kind of action button for your,
• 51:46
  smart device i'm gonna show you right now so it
• 51:50
  looks like ignore the other apps they're all magic apps that
• 51:53
  we know of so it's this one here the red green and yellow button
• 51:56
  yeah that can i press it so you
• 52:00
  open it so i had channel country show which is the
• 52:02
  one i just did so i press that and
• 52:05
  it now so i've loaded all these songs and i've
• 52:08
  also loaded what to do when i hit end so
• 52:11
  some of them it will know to fade out and play the next song
• 52:14
  some will just fade out and stop some i've queued
• 52:17
  to stop and then wait 10 seconds before the next
• 52:20
  song starts oh gary just sent in a speak pipe you know what we might listen
• 52:24
  to that before you finish so and there's just it and it just runs by either
• 52:29
  a button or if you have the audio ape you can just remote control it but essentially
• 52:33
  if i press this it'll play my like running on song i think i've just i've muted it all so you.
• 52:39
  Hear it but see how it says fade out and go to two so that's
• 52:41
  what i programmed it to do so i'll hit that yep now
• 52:44
  my now my girlfriend's texting me great i'm trying
• 52:47
  to mention audio ape is this app specific
• 52:50
  to audio ape or you use it on its own as
• 52:53
  well i guess huh go button you can use this is
• 52:57
  part of the q lab yeah yeah q
• 53:00
  lab as well yeah it's basically just a sound queuing app but q
• 53:02
  lab is obviously the most one of the more professional ones go button
• 53:06
  is perfect for just you know a basic show right
• 53:09
  that you're running yourself and audio ape just works with it so what audio
• 53:13
  ape does is the remote control will just press whatever the app that's open
• 53:17
  on your phone basically so if go buttons the one that's on it will just know
• 53:21
  to hit that green button to go to the next queue and you can also adjust your
• 53:26
  volume and i think the new audio ape that's out.
• 53:29
  You can also go back if you missed a cue. You can have special buttons that
• 53:33
  are one-off. Flexible with other devices?
• 53:35
  The Go button, could you put another remote cueing device on it perhaps?
• 53:41
  Absolutely, yeah. Maybe your watch even, Apple Watch? I believe so.
• 53:45
  You can buy basic Bluetooth.
• 53:48
  I used to use a little Bluetooth remote that was like $20 off eBay.
• 53:52
  I might even still have it here. Yeah, that's the idea.
• 53:55
  Audio Ape, it's a little pricey, right? you're talking a few hundred bucks for
• 53:59
  that solution yeah for sure yeah for sure but i mean if a client's paying you
• 54:03
  hundreds of or thousands of dollars it's it's you know obviously yeah but maybe
• 54:07
  you're a startup busker who needs a solution for their street act you know and they got a phone,
• 54:12
  absolutely yeah i mean you don't need any remote you can just press the button
• 54:15
  on your phone but definitely a little a little bluetooth button will work absolutely
• 54:20
  absolutely there's many ways to to go with it but yeah scotlink is right go
• 54:25
  button is an apple app so you do need an iphone to use it.
• 54:30
  And yes all in all this outback event was was like it became a great success
• 54:35
  but it was very frantic in the beginning because i'm like how can i we didn't
• 54:39
  even have an iron so i'm like hanging up my clothes and like wetting them and
• 54:42
  hanging them up so you were dry and like.
• 54:45
  Did you have to put the kangaroos and the snakes we
• 54:49
  did see wild boar that was pretty crazy you know
• 54:52
  wild pigs with with tusks there was like
• 54:55
  wild emus in that area yeah we did we did
• 54:57
  get a little brief about like not to just wander off into
• 55:00
  the outback yeah yourself y'all got some serious wildlife
• 55:04
  over there in the australia yeah absolutely
• 55:07
  so yeah just be prepared for anything and and do think
• 55:10
  of a show that you could do if you couldn't have much luggage with
• 55:13
  you because one way or another whether it's because your luggage
• 55:16
  doesn't turn up or because you're going somewhere that you can't
• 55:19
  take much it it actually will come into play at some
• 55:22
  point and a magazine test is a great option because they're
• 55:25
  very thin and you don't need much and i
• 55:27
  use the one called true test which is worth looking up
• 55:30
  tru test yeah nathan cranza
• 55:33
  absolutely yeah all right shall we listen to gary
• 55:36
  speak pipe before we close off here i haven't i haven't pre-screened
• 55:40
  this so gary you you better not mess us
• 55:43
  up here we go here we go hello gentlemen thank you for a great show just saw
• 55:51
  a thing on facebook last couple of days a guy was paying bills with a card no
• 55:58
  not a credit card a card out of a deck.
• 56:02
  Really good. I thought it was terrific. I'm wondering if anybody saw it,
• 56:04
  what your opinion was. So what he does, he fends a dick of cards.
• 56:09
  They ask to take a card.
• 56:11
  Then he taps the card on the FPOS machine and pays the bill,
• 56:16
  tears the card in half and gives them the card back.
• 56:19
  Or words to that effect. Anyway, keen to hear what you think.
• 56:23
  Thank you. Keep up the good work. Bye.
• 56:26
  Okay. That's very fun, Gary. And thank you for letting us know. I love,
• 56:30
  oh god what's his name that helped
• 56:33
  create the tko they created the tko
• 56:36
  yes jeff kaylor if people
• 56:39
  have watched his lecture he often talks about creating moments of
• 56:42
  magic in the real world and one of them is he would
• 56:46
  take a giant like novelty size
• 56:49
  credit card and swipe that to pay
• 56:52
  for something but it actually pays because in the very corner
• 56:55
  of that novelty thing is his actual card so when
• 56:58
  he scans this massive one the real one does scan
• 57:01
  so that's a funny thing and then i always
• 57:04
  thought if you were to get because banks were
• 57:07
  at one point giving out those mini chips that you could
• 57:09
  stick on your phone so you could pay for stuff with your phone before tap
• 57:13
  pay came in and i always thought putting one of them in a
• 57:15
  magic wand would be brilliant for
• 57:18
  a magician because you can take out your wand tap it and pay
• 57:21
  for stuff but the idea to do it
• 57:24
  with a playing card now that's fun it's really
• 57:27
  fun and i think if anyone was going to figure out how to do it it would be nick
• 57:31
  because i know you're great with your rf chips and things of that nature yeah
• 57:36
  do they have a deck i guess they are the poker players must because they have
• 57:41
  the they read the cards on the poker games so there must be full decks that
• 57:45
  have these things built into them.
• 57:47
  Rf readers wondering what's what's a great app
• 57:51
  for that as a magician and i
• 57:53
  mean you could technically have your bank card and hide
• 57:56
  it underneath the playing card like you could have it riding underneath have
• 58:00
  them touch a card pull it out with the card underneath tap it steal it away
• 58:05
  as you tear it up and give it to them like you know you could do a sleight of
• 58:09
  hand version with this god damn it now that i say that maybe i might try that
• 58:13
  that's a great solution yeah,
• 58:16
  right there yeah yeah yeah yeah
• 58:20
  there you go or with the
• 58:23
  coins that you're using you know something costs two dollars oh touch a card
• 58:27
  okay great oh you picked a two of hearts perfect and then pop out a two dollar
• 58:30
  coin why not to pay for him i do like the idea of having it in your magic wand
• 58:36
  and if you're at the cashier you're just like i'm gonna just there we go yeah yeah that's fun.
• 58:43
  Look, Gary, I love that. You know what? You've inspired me to try it.
• 58:46
  And I wonder if I wear the Meta Ray-Bans, I bet I could actually film that experience.
• 58:52
  God damn it. So help me, God. You guys as my witness, I will film this and play
• 58:58
  it on the next episode of the Magic. Or be those on.
• 59:01
  Hell yeah. I think that was great. That was great. But, oh, we do need a final word.
• 59:05
  Who's, Doug, are you happy to do our final word for today? That I've just sprung on you?
• 59:10
  Sure. Here we go.
• 59:16
  So if anyone was going to ask me what I was up to this week,
• 59:20
  I've decided to write a book.
• 59:21
  That produced another book it's going to be on the pinky count which is a move that's,
• 59:28
  largely ignored by many card men I wonder if Josh Norbedo does the pinky count
• 59:32
  with his fine memorized deck work so my final word is this it's important and
• 59:37
  don't wait for my book learn the pinky count you'll be gooder that's it,
• 59:45
  thanks for listening it's time for us to disappear now Disappear now.
• 59:51
  But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.